Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Ernie Pyle
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000463A
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00:01 One of my favorite scriptures that Paul wrote to the Romans
00:04 is found in chapter 8 in verse 15 00:08 here's what he said, 00:09 "For you did not received 00:11 the spirit of bondage again to fear, 00:13 but you received the Spirit of adoption, 00:17 by whom we cry out, 'Abba! Father!'" 00:21 Join us today on Issues and Answers 00:23 and find out why that is such a special promise. 00:57 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn 00:59 and we welcome you once again to Issues and Answers. 01:03 We have someone returning this week 01:06 and his name is Ernie Pyle, 01:08 he is our special guest and a special friend. 01:12 Ernie, so glad that you could come back. 01:14 My privilege, 01:15 I suddenly had a good time last week with you, Shelley. 01:17 Amen. 01:18 You know, 01:19 you and my husband have known each other 01:21 since academy days. 01:23 1960. Oh, mercy. 01:25 Seems old when you think 01:26 you've known somebody for 56 years. 01:30 Someone asked me one time said, 01:32 how good a friends are you and Jim, 01:34 I know him as Jim, 01:35 you all know him as JD and I said well, 01:37 we are good enough friends 01:39 that we've been partners in about eight businesses 01:42 and we still talk to each other. 01:44 So I think that sums that up. 01:46 And we do have some fun sometimes sitting around 01:49 and talking about some of the things 01:51 you all have gotten into and done. 01:53 Well, 01:55 Ernie is one of the speakers for a special ministry 01:59 called knowing god ministries, 02:02 and this ministry focuses on the names of God. 02:08 And you were telling us last time a little about 02:12 how it began with you and Dr. Rob Sheppard 02:16 and how you began teaching this at the Arlington Church. 02:20 And it was supposed to be what six weeks in a... 02:23 Supposed to be three months. Three months? 02:25 Yeah, and ended up to be a year and half 02:27 and we began to pray that if God 02:33 saw that we had a ministry in a message 02:36 that he would give us some place to go, 02:39 and that he would give us the funds, 02:42 and Shelley, we've done no, 02:44 I'm a sales trainer by profession 02:46 and I know how to push things and get things done. 02:49 But we've done no advertising 02:51 or we just go by word of mouth from church to church. 02:55 We've had the privilege of doing camp meetings 02:57 all over the country. 02:59 We've done Baptist churches, 03:01 so our message is for everybody, 03:03 because when you're talking about the love of God, 03:06 you can talk to anybody. 03:09 We have a Sabbath school class that has about 65 to 75 members 03:15 and they're the ones 03:16 that give about 90 percent of our funding. 03:19 And a nice thing about our ministry 03:22 is that everything's absolutely free. 03:24 Rob and I did not ever want someone to question, 03:27 are we doing this for traveling or money or things like that, 03:32 we do the seminars free, our materials are free, 03:35 on our website we have over 500 sermons 03:39 and Sabbath school lessons 03:40 that anybody can download for free. 03:43 The reason being is, 03:45 Rob and I know what God has done in our lives. 03:47 Amen. 03:48 And we have to go share that message with other people. 03:52 And praise the Lord for that, 03:54 and since you've mentioned that, 03:55 if you would like go to their website, 03:58 the website is knowinggodministries.com 04:04 and that is plural on the ministry. 04:06 Ministries knowing god ministries, all lower case, 04:09 and you might want to go there to contact Ernie or Rob, 04:15 and have them come to your church 04:17 or to get some of the materials, 04:18 and the materials they give out at the seminars, 04:20 they were here for our Thompsonville Adventist Church 04:24 and the materials they gave out were beautiful, 04:27 it was amazing to get, everyone was up here. 04:29 We surprise people. You do surprise people. 04:31 They're always kind of waiting for the other shoe to fall 04:35 and with knowing god ministry there is no other shoe. 04:37 That's praise the Lord. 04:39 All right, so we have spoken previously 04:42 when you were here last week about the name of Yahweh. 04:47 Now, today I've already teased to this, 04:50 but tell me what is your favorite name for God and why? 04:55 My favorite name by far, Shelley, is Abba, 04:59 A-B-B-A which literally is translated daddy. 05:05 Now, sometimes people are uncomfortable 05:09 with the word daddy for God the father. 05:14 I had a person name Mike in Oklahoma. 05:17 On Friday night I always introduce 05:19 what the topics are for the next day 05:21 and I introduced that mine was going to be Abba, 05:24 and he came up to me afterwards 05:26 and says I'm not gonna be here tomorrow, 05:29 and I curiously ask how come and he said, 05:33 I had a daddy that was worthless. 05:36 He beat me, he beat my mother and I don't want to hear this. 05:41 And I looked daddy and I said to him, Mike, 05:44 I cannot help what your earthly daddy was like, 05:49 what a pity? 05:51 But tomorrow be here 05:53 because I'm gonna introduce you to your heavenly daddy, 05:57 who will never let you down nor forsake you. 06:02 Mike's a very humble person 06:04 and every month since that time in Oklahoma, 06:08 we get a check from him for knowing god ministry. 06:11 Amen. 06:12 I love the name daddy 06:14 because I had a tremendous daddy. 06:17 Very close to him, he died about 18 years ago, 06:21 I'm still missing, 06:23 I think about coming up to 3ABN 06:25 how I would love to call him 06:27 when we got through and say daddy, 06:30 I was on 3ABN and you know, he would be so thrilled. 06:34 It's a very special name to me. 06:37 Can I share a little story about? 06:38 Sure. 06:40 Okay, nine years ago come July 13th one of our grandson, 06:46 Shay Landry Carr was born. 06:50 He weighed, Shelley, 1 pound 14 ounces. 06:54 Wow. 06:55 Sue and I saw him as they were moving him 06:57 from one operating room to another 06:59 for about 30 seconds, 07:01 and he look like a little bird. 07:04 We were just heart broken 07:07 God science and medicine are tremendous. 07:10 Amen. 07:11 And now, he's gonna be nine years old, 07:13 he is just a normal kid, a great kid. 07:16 When he was about to learn how to talk, 07:19 when he come over to my house, 07:21 I had pulled him aside 07:22 and I'll pull him up in my favorite chair 07:24 setting him on my lap and I would go say Shay, 07:28 grandpa, Shay, grandpa. 07:33 You noticed I didn't say, Shelley, Shay, grandfather. 07:40 That's so formal, you know, 07:42 it's like sitting around a table at Thanksgiving, 07:45 grandfather would you pass you know cell phone, 07:49 I want it that grandpa, grandpa. 07:52 Well, one day I came by Sue's office 07:55 and she was in there with Shay saying grandma. 07:58 So, you can imagine which one won, 08:01 I was grandma 08:03 but you see how personal and beautiful 08:05 that word daddy is. 08:08 Now, Shelley, one of the things 08:10 I love about the Aramaic language 08:13 is that they work in word pictures 08:16 but you like to hear 08:17 what the word picture for abba, daddy is. 08:20 I love it. 08:22 Want you to picture a daddy in the floor 08:26 with his children and their unwrapping presence 08:31 and they're rolling around in the floor wrestling 08:35 with each other, laughing and having a great time. 08:39 That's the word picture for daddy. 08:43 I've never heard that. 08:45 And I think how beautiful in heaven, 08:47 it will be times when we will be very formal 08:51 and we'll worship God and we'll sing, 08:54 but you know for eternity just think of that interaction 08:58 that we can have with our daddy up there. 09:02 You know and even now, I mean, you know, some of my story, 09:06 my daddy was killed in a plane crash 09:10 when I was only six years old. 09:11 He was 30 and so I grew up without a father, 09:15 and I was fearful, 09:17 I was thought to be fearful of God the father. 09:21 Yes. 09:22 I had a love affair with Jesus but fearful of God the father 09:25 because I saw him as being judgment 09:28 all ready to strike me down any moment. 09:31 And I recall 09:33 when I first studied the word Abba 09:35 and found that it could mean papa or daddy, 09:37 it was very intimate expression and, you know, 09:40 Jesus on the cross cried up Abba father, 09:44 so he had that intimate connection. 09:46 And I remember the first time I prayed, Ernie, 09:48 and used the title Abba and it was something, 09:53 some special because suddenly it wasn't like this formal, 09:59 I wasn't where it wasn't a formality. 10:02 I was praying to my Abba, 10:05 to my daddy in heaven 10:07 and that is a very, very special feeling. 10:11 Yes, yes, it is. 10:13 And that's why the names of God are so important 10:17 because every name that he gives himself 10:21 is a description of his character, 10:23 it's a promise of what he will do in our lives, 10:27 but different names appeal to different people. 10:31 And all of a sudden to some people 10:32 daddy becomes a very, very, beautiful word. 10:36 Abba is only found really in three places 10:39 in the New Testament, two of them is from Paul. 10:44 He talks about adoption. 10:47 Adoption back in the Roman time was a big thing. 10:50 Yes, it was. 10:51 First of all if you were born in a poor family, 10:54 you had no chance in life whatsoever. 10:58 And Paul says that ever once in a while 11:00 from the poor family a rich family 11:03 would adopt a child and bring them over 11:06 and all of a sudden that meant wealth, 11:08 education and opportunity and every thing to that child. 11:12 They became co-heirs. 11:13 That's right, and the child would cry out 11:16 once he got to know these new parents, 11:19 you know daddy, 11:20 daddy he was so happy to have a chance in life. 11:23 Yeah. 11:25 Another place I'm gonna share with you in just a little bit 11:28 because not many people realize where this, that word was used, 11:32 but I do have a question. 11:34 I know this is your issues and answers 11:35 but you don't mind 11:37 if I ask you a question, do you? 11:38 Go ahead. 11:39 Okay, are you familiar with a parable of the good daddy? 11:43 The parable of the good daddy, not right on my head. 11:47 You probably know it a little bit better 11:49 as the prodigal son. 11:51 Okay. Okay, now, Shelley. 11:53 why is that parable entitled the story of the prodigal son, 11:57 he is not the hero by any means. 11:59 Truly. The daddy is the hero. 12:03 And it's my belief that if we had only the story, 12:08 the parable of the good daddy 12:10 that we have everything 12:12 in the theme of salvation in that story. 12:16 You know, I would like to illustrate. 12:18 Sure. 12:19 We all know the story, father had two sons. 12:22 The elder one worked hard, 12:25 the younger one wanted his own way. 12:29 The story picks up where he comes to his father, 12:33 and he says, father, 12:36 I don't like what's happening here, 12:39 I want to go have my own fun. 12:41 Only I know what's better for me. 12:44 Really, what he was saying Shelley, was old man, 12:47 I can't wait for you to die. 12:50 Give me my inheritance. So give me my inheritance now. 12:55 What a son? 12:58 He'd done this many times and finally the story picks up 13:02 were the good daddy gives him his wish, 13:07 and so we find the son as he is leaving home, 13:11 he gonna have wine, women and song, a good time, 13:14 meet all of his dreams. 13:17 And the daddy, 13:19 he stood on the porch 13:22 and he looked way down that road 13:25 and he watched his son 13:28 till he was finally out of sight. 13:32 I wonder at times if the son 13:35 kind of gave his daddy the back of his hand, 13:38 if he turned around and waved daddy. 13:41 Most likely he didn't even give him a thought. 13:45 But I've also wondered 13:47 what did this daddy think as he saw his son. 13:53 Well, Shelley, 13:55 I know what was going through the daddy's mind, 13:57 would you be interested in knowing that? 13:58 Yes, I would. 14:00 Because you see I only have to go to Daniel. 14:05 In the Book of Daniel, 14:07 God called an angel and he said, 14:10 I want you to go down there and tell Daniel 14:13 that he is my special treasure. 14:18 And so the daddy watched 14:19 as his special treasure was going down the road. 14:24 I only have to go to Isaiah 49 Chapter 14:28 where God asked a very interesting question. 14:31 He says, Shelley, can a woman forget her sucking child? 14:36 Well, the answer is sadly yes. 14:40 We read all the time 14:41 where babies are dumped in garbage dumps, 14:44 left in closets, thrown, you know. 14:46 So a woman can forget 14:48 but God says, I will not forget you. 14:54 In fact, he says, 14:57 I have your name engraved, 15:02 we'd say today tattooed on the palms of my hand. 15:06 Imagine that, Shelley, 15:08 your name, my name on God's hands. 15:12 And so as that daddy sat and watch his son go, 15:16 he said, I won't forget you. 15:19 I'll never forget you. 15:20 I'll keep your name on my hands. 15:24 How do I know how the daddy felt? 15:26 I only need to go to Jeremiah 13, 15:29 when God was overlooking his wayward children, 15:33 and he says, my eyes well up with tears, 15:37 and they run down my cheek, 15:41 and so we see the daddy crying. 15:43 He also says in Jeremiah, 15:45 I thought you would call me my father 15:47 and not turned away from following me. 15:48 Yes, yes, this was what was going through 15:52 and then finally what was going 15:53 through the daddy's mind is Hosea 11, 15:57 one of the most beautiful 15:58 but yet saddest chapters in the Bible 16:01 where again God speaking to his wayward children, 16:03 he says, it was you that I thought how to eat. 16:08 It was you 16:10 who I took in my hands and taught how to walk. 16:13 It was you that I held in my arms 16:16 but you didn't want anything to do with me, 16:19 and I have to let you go. 16:22 And so we find the good daddy 16:25 not mad, not angry, crying, 16:30 saying I'll never forget you and longing 16:35 'cause he knew the heartache that his son was going through. 16:38 What a picture of our daddy. 16:42 Then Luke, you know, Luke has interesting word, 16:47 he says, well, 16:48 the boy came to his senses you know. 16:51 I often wondered and haul with that. 16:53 Yeah. 16:54 Here he is a Jewish boy 16:58 fighting the pigs for slop to keep alive. 17:03 Shelley, you can't get any lower than that. 17:09 How did he come to his senses? 17:11 Well, there's two powers working. 17:13 It's always two powers working. 17:16 One was saying, well, you can't go home. 17:21 You're a disgrace to your family. 17:24 The other power simply said, go home. 17:29 Well, you can't go home, your church, 17:31 what would they think about you? 17:33 Go home 17:35 and finally the cruellest of all, 17:39 nobody cares, 17:42 but that voice came through, go home. 17:45 And so we find the boy gets up, 17:49 must stop by seven-eleven and got some index cards 17:53 'cause we're told he started writing out his speech 17:56 and notice how Luke has his speech, 17:58 he starts out as dear father. 18:02 And so he is working on a speech. 18:05 Meanwhile the daddy 18:09 does what, daddy's do everyday, Shelley? 18:12 He got up and stood on the front porch of his house 18:16 and he looked and he looked, 18:19 and he hoped and he prayed 18:22 and one day could that be, 18:27 I think it is, it's my son. 18:31 Now, I want you to listen to the next part 18:34 because this is the beautiful part of the story. 18:36 It says the daddy ran. 18:40 Amen. 18:42 Now why is that important? 18:43 Well, in the Jewish culture, 18:46 the man was everything in his house, 18:50 and he stood at the front of his door on his porch 18:54 and no matter who came up 18:56 family, friends, visitors, dignitary, 18:59 didn't make a bit of difference, 19:01 they came to his front door to be accepted. 19:07 That's a picture of a father. 19:11 Tell you the picture of a daddy. 19:13 A daddy sees his son, Shelley, and he runs. 19:18 He's so eager. 19:20 Yeah, can you see the servants are like, 19:22 I didn't know the old man could even move, 19:25 and when he gets there, 19:27 the son pull out his index card and he starts his great speech, 19:32 father, I have sinned. 19:35 But, you know, what daddy's do, Shelley? 19:38 They're too busy, they don't listen to speeches, 19:41 they hug, they kiss, they cry, 19:47 they tell the servants get shoes for my boy, 19:50 get the ring for my boy and he start saying, well, 19:53 I'll start at the bottom, I'm not worthy, 19:57 but daddies don't listen. 19:59 And he says get the ring, this is my son, 20:02 and we're going to throw a big party for him. 20:08 That's what daddies do. 20:11 And, Shelley, 20:13 knowing god ministry has the privilege of going out 20:18 and sharing that picture of people 20:22 because I believe the greatest tool 20:24 the devil uses is that nobody cares, 20:29 your parents are ashamed of you, 20:32 your church is ashamed of you. 20:34 And so many people listen to the wrong voice, 20:37 they're listing to that voice, yes. 20:40 And they say, you can't go back. 20:42 What an embarrassment? 20:44 You got to get yourself cleaned up, 20:47 you got to go through that. 20:48 The voice, the other voice in the pit said go home, 20:54 go home, go home, 20:56 and finally when he went home, 20:59 there comes the daddy. 21:01 Amen. 21:02 Such a beautiful story. 21:04 The reason that I know the story is true, Shelley, 21:08 I've been in the hot pan. 21:12 I've been where nobody wanted to talk to me. 21:16 I've been where religious leaders 21:18 as I came down the aisle turned their back 21:22 but God... 21:24 Amen. Amen. 21:26 Kept saying, Ernie, come home, 21:31 come home 21:35 and that's why Rob Sheppard and I 21:37 feel that we have to share this message 21:41 because without my earthly daddy, 21:45 I would not be the person I'm today. 21:49 Without my heavenly daddy, I would be lost. 21:54 You know, it is such a beautiful picture what we, 21:58 I like what you call up the parable of the good daddy 22:01 rather than the parable of the prodigal son, 22:04 but it is such a beautiful picture of God 22:08 and how, you know, 22:09 he just chases us down with his love. 22:12 I mean he's, that's what he's all about. 22:17 I think that there're so many people, 22:20 you were gonna tell us one more place where Abba was, 22:23 so I don't want to break you off in this. 22:25 Let's go to that next round we reserve that. 22:26 Okay, then we'll come back yeah. 22:28 The next one kind of surprises you 22:30 because it's happened on a Thursday night. 22:32 But wait a minute, let me back up 22:34 because did they use the word Abba 22:37 in the story of the prodigal... 22:39 No. 22:40 Okay, that is the beautiful picture. 22:42 That is the beautiful picture. 22:43 It is the picture of the ultimate daddy. 22:45 It matches the word between the Aramaic. 22:47 Yeah, see one of the beautiful things about 22:50 Jesus coming to this earth 22:52 was he came to illustrate the Old Testament 22:57 that told all about 22:58 the character and the goodness of God. 23:00 Amen. 23:01 And so, that's why that story is so important, 23:03 it's the ultimate illustration of what a daddy is like. 23:06 Amen. 23:08 Let's go back Thursday night 2000 years ago. 23:12 The disciple had never seen Jesus like he is this night, 23:17 tired, worn out, 23:21 so we know he took his three favorite disciples. 23:25 He asked them to pray and he went ahead. 23:28 We found out that he lay prostrate on the ground, 23:31 clinging the ground praying. 23:34 The world was coming upon him 23:37 and Mark in the 16 chapter tells us 23:41 that in the greatest hour 23:43 when the decision was made to go to the cross 23:47 that Jesus cries out daddy, 23:52 daddy, 23:54 the most intimate word 23:57 a son can use with his daddy 24:01 and it was at that place he calls out for his daddy 24:05 and he pleads with him, take this away from me, 24:09 I don't want to go through this. 24:11 If there is any other way, 24:13 you see that's how a son talks to his daddy, 24:17 but he ends up by saying and thank God he did, 24:23 nevertheless thy will be done. 24:28 So, Jesus say in his humanity 24:29 there at the Garden of Gethsemane 24:32 in the time he was making the uttermost decision 24:35 cries out daddy, 24:37 then it tells us, Shelley, in our relationship 24:41 that we need to open up and share our concerns 24:44 and our thoughts and our feelings. 24:47 So often we think when we pray or we look at God 24:51 that we gonna got to have that formality 24:54 God invites just a bearer of soul. 24:56 Amen. 24:57 He already knows us, says, 24:58 I knew you before he was even born, 25:01 but how much it does, 25:03 I remember many times when I was in trouble 25:05 when I went home and sit down and talk to my daddy, 25:10 how comforting it was. 25:12 He sometimes was strict with me on it, 25:16 but I knew he cared 25:17 and it was just that comfort of sitting down 25:19 and saying, daddy, I'm in trouble 25:21 that's what our heavenly daddy ask us to do, 25:24 open up our heart and he will work with us. 25:27 You know, Ernie, 25:28 you were very blessed to have a loving father, 25:31 someone who modeled God's unconditional love, 25:34 because so there is so many people 25:36 who don't have that and as that young man 25:40 that you said did not want to attend, 25:42 it's a little more difficult 25:44 but there is a lot of people 25:46 who've grown up and they have been the picture 25:51 that has been painted in their mind of God 25:54 doesn't match what the scriptures really say. 25:58 And it's so difficult for them to know 26:01 but it is so true as Paul said, 26:05 you have not been received 26:07 the spirit of bondage again to fear 26:10 but you've receive the spirit of adoption 26:13 and when you have been adopted, you can cry out Abba, Father, 26:18 Daddy, God, please. 26:20 And so this is something that I think it is a beautiful, 26:23 and thank you for sharing the stories, 26:27 it's a beautiful message. 26:28 You know I had a lady come to me 26:31 and she said all of my life, 26:34 I've been searching to find out to who my dad was. 26:38 Yeah. 26:39 And she says I've spent thousands of dollars doing it 26:43 and she says thank you, 26:46 I don't think I'll never find out my earthly daddy, 26:49 but thank you for introducing me to my heavenly daddy. 26:53 What a picture of God changed in her life 26:56 and I think that's the pictures that we need to know, yes, 26:59 God is approachable and I'll say it many times, 27:03 the greatest desire that our daddy has for us 27:07 is to spend eternity with you. 27:09 Amen. 27:10 You know and how can we not love a daddy like that. 27:13 You know, Ernie, 27:15 that there was a time that I was praying very earnestly 27:18 with many, many tears and the spirit of the Lord 27:23 just impressed this thought upon my mind 27:26 that for years I had cried out 27:28 that I wished that my daddy had lived 27:30 that I wanted to be able to crawl into his lap 27:33 and have someone who would say, okay, I'm gonna take care of it 27:37 and the Spirit of the Lord said to me, 27:41 but I've always been here, 27:42 I'm your daddy and that was, that was an amazing thing, 27:46 that was life changing right there. 27:47 Yeah, yeah, that is life changing. 27:48 Well, I cannot believe how fast our time has gone. 27:52 I think could sit and listen to this all day along 27:54 but we're going to have to say goodbye 27:57 to Ernie Pyle right now and goodbye to you. 28:00 We just want you to know that your Abba, father, 28:05 your daddy God is calling out to you right now. 28:09 He wants to establish that relationship with you, 28:14 the one in the picture sitting down, opening up the presence, 28:19 rolling around together that's God, 28:22 may not be creative thinking, your picture is, 28:25 but that's God. 28:27 Join us next time. |
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