Jesus said in John 17:3, these words, 00:00:01.36\00:00:05.63 "This is eternal life, that they may know You, 00:00:05.67\00:00:09.00 the only true God, 00:00:09.04\00:00:10.47 and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." 00:00:10.51\00:00:13.48 Knowing God is so important. 00:00:13.51\00:00:16.51 That is the key to eternal life. 00:00:16.54\00:00:19.01 And we're inviting you to join us today 00:00:19.05\00:00:21.38 on Issues and Answers 00:00:21.42\00:00:23.15 as we will be talking about the names of God. 00:00:23.18\00:00:26.25 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn 00:00:56.48\00:00:57.85 and once we welcome you to Issues and Answers. 00:00:57.89\00:01:00.76 Today is gonna be a special treat 00:01:00.79\00:01:02.62 because we are starting today 00:01:02.66\00:01:04.49 on a topic that should be well known to most of us, 00:01:04.53\00:01:08.36 but unfortunately not many of us really do know 00:01:08.40\00:01:12.67 and that is the names of God. 00:01:12.70\00:01:14.90 Let me introduce a very special guest 00:01:14.94\00:01:17.41 who is also a personal friend and that is Ernie Pyle. 00:01:17.44\00:01:21.21 Ernie, we're so glad that you've joined us today. 00:01:21.24\00:01:23.98 Well, that's certainly 00:01:24.01\00:01:25.35 my privilege to be here, Shelley. 00:01:25.38\00:01:26.92 I look forward to spending some time 00:01:26.95\00:01:28.32 with the names of God. 00:01:28.35\00:01:29.68 Amen. 00:01:29.72\00:01:31.05 Now, you are one of the speakers 00:01:31.09\00:01:33.25 of a fascinating ministry called Knowing God Ministries. 00:01:33.29\00:01:37.59 You and Dr. Rob Sheppard. 00:01:37.63\00:01:39.26 Dr. Rob Sheppard, 00:01:39.29\00:01:40.63 we have the privilege of being the speakers for the ministry, 00:01:40.66\00:01:44.37 and we think our messages are little unique, 00:01:44.40\00:01:47.10 but it always points towards the love of God. 00:01:47.14\00:01:49.24 Amen. 00:01:49.27\00:01:50.61 In fact, I'd like to share 00:01:50.64\00:01:51.97 a little story about our message, 00:01:52.01\00:01:53.34 would that be okay? 00:01:53.38\00:01:54.71 Please. 00:01:54.74\00:01:56.08 There was a little girl in an art class 00:01:56.11\00:01:58.75 and the assignment for the day was to draw 00:01:58.78\00:02:01.68 a picture of somebody that you admired. 00:02:01.72\00:02:05.25 Well, most all the little kids 00:02:05.29\00:02:06.89 just kind of stared at the ceiling 00:02:06.92\00:02:08.66 and they looked around because they couldn't think. 00:02:08.69\00:02:11.09 Shall I do mommy or daddy? 00:02:11.13\00:02:13.06 The teacher noticed that there is one little girl 00:02:13.09\00:02:15.80 and she was already just drawing away. 00:02:15.83\00:02:18.90 Well, this caught the teacher's attention 00:02:18.93\00:02:20.94 and eventually she walked away over to the little girl, 00:02:20.97\00:02:24.24 and this little girl was drawing 00:02:24.27\00:02:25.94 she said, "Honey, well, 00:02:25.97\00:02:28.31 who are you drawing a picture of?" 00:02:28.34\00:02:30.55 And she says, "I'm drawing a picture of God." 00:02:30.58\00:02:34.18 And the teacher smiled and said, 00:02:34.22\00:02:35.78 "Well, honey nobody knows what God looks like." 00:02:35.82\00:02:39.02 And she says, "They will when I get through." 00:02:39.05\00:02:42.89 And that is exactly, Shelley, 00:02:42.92\00:02:46.03 the theme of our ministry is to draw a picture of God 00:02:46.06\00:02:51.37 that people will understand how much He loves them, 00:02:51.40\00:02:55.17 how much He cares for them 00:02:55.20\00:02:57.44 and that His greatest desire is that 00:02:57.47\00:03:00.38 they spend eternity with Him. 00:03:00.41\00:03:02.24 Amen. 00:03:02.28\00:03:03.61 And that is the theme of knowing God's ministry. 00:03:03.65\00:03:06.28 We just happened to use 00:03:06.31\00:03:08.38 the different names of God 00:03:08.42\00:03:10.69 to illustrate His character and His love. 00:03:10.72\00:03:14.66 You know, I've... 00:03:14.69\00:03:16.02 It's fascinating, 00:03:16.06\00:03:17.39 I just kind of want to go back to how you began the ministry, 00:03:17.43\00:03:19.76 because I know that you 00:03:19.79\00:03:21.73 and Dr. Sheppard were here at our church... 00:03:21.76\00:03:24.33 Yes, we were. 00:03:24.37\00:03:25.70 And you did a seminar, what was it? 00:03:25.73\00:03:28.97 How many hours? 00:03:29.00\00:03:30.34 We did four sessions. 00:03:30.37\00:03:31.71 Four sessions. 00:03:31.74\00:03:33.07 And what amazed me about the ministry was that 00:03:33.11\00:03:36.95 you gave away, 00:03:36.98\00:03:38.31 everyone who attended got a binder, materials, 00:03:38.35\00:03:41.12 it was all free. 00:03:41.15\00:03:42.58 Yes. 00:03:42.62\00:03:43.95 So, kind of, let's step back in history for just a second. 00:03:43.99\00:03:46.89 Tell me how Knowing God Ministries begin? 00:03:46.92\00:03:48.82 Well, it really begins... 00:03:48.86\00:03:51.69 I have the privilege of being a teacher 00:03:51.73\00:03:54.66 in the Arlington Church, 00:03:54.70\00:03:57.07 Arlington, Texas. 00:03:57.10\00:03:58.90 And after I taught the Sabbath school class, 00:03:58.93\00:04:01.80 I was walking in the hallway 00:04:01.84\00:04:03.30 and a personal friend had known our family for a long time 00:04:03.34\00:04:05.87 came up to me and she was almost mad. 00:04:05.91\00:04:09.48 And she pulled me aside and she says, 00:04:09.51\00:04:12.21 "Why are you wasting your talents? 00:04:12.25\00:04:15.38 And by the way 00:04:15.42\00:04:16.75 why is Rob Sheppard wasting his talent?" 00:04:16.79\00:04:20.19 Well, this got my attention, 00:04:20.22\00:04:22.19 I mean, this was out the blue. 00:04:22.22\00:04:24.16 We had a home church every Friday night in my house 00:04:24.19\00:04:29.23 and we have anywhere from 15 to 35 people there, 00:04:29.26\00:04:33.37 and we did a lot of different topics 00:04:33.40\00:04:36.00 and Rob Sheppard brought to me the idea, 00:04:36.04\00:04:38.87 let's do a series on the names of God. 00:04:38.91\00:04:42.28 And it was that series, Shelley, 00:04:42.31\00:04:44.18 that really seemed to hit home to the people. 00:04:44.21\00:04:47.25 Yes. 00:04:47.28\00:04:48.62 And the Arlington Church asked us to do 00:04:48.65\00:04:52.42 a three month series on the names of God 00:04:52.45\00:04:54.52 for prayer meeting. 00:04:54.56\00:04:56.16 That turned into be a year and half. 00:04:56.19\00:04:59.19 And we began to pray to God, and we said two things, 00:04:59.23\00:05:04.43 if we have a message have somebody call us. 00:05:04.47\00:05:09.70 And if you want us to go, provide the funds for us. 00:05:09.74\00:05:15.31 And so we've been in the ministry 00:05:15.34\00:05:17.55 for little over six years. 00:05:17.58\00:05:19.08 We've had over 70 seminars. 00:05:19.11\00:05:21.18 We've been to camp meetings in Canada, 00:05:21.22\00:05:23.59 cowboy camp meetings, Hawaii, all over. 00:05:23.62\00:05:26.55 And we also wanted everybody to understand that 00:05:26.59\00:05:30.03 Rob and I were dedicated to the ministry. 00:05:30.06\00:05:33.23 And we decided, 00:05:33.26\00:05:34.60 we would charge nothing for any of our materials. 00:05:34.63\00:05:37.50 So we charge nothing for the seminars, 00:05:37.53\00:05:40.57 nothing for the materials we give away 00:05:40.60\00:05:42.77 which is well over a $100 per person 00:05:42.80\00:05:45.31 that in the materials. 00:05:45.34\00:05:47.04 And we just kept saying, 00:05:47.08\00:05:48.44 as long as God provides the funds, 00:05:48.48\00:05:51.11 we'll keep going. 00:05:51.15\00:05:53.38 Our Sabbath school class is about 65 to 75 people 00:05:53.42\00:05:58.72 and 90 percent of our funds comes from that class 00:05:58.75\00:06:02.46 that keeps Knowing God's Ministry alive. 00:06:02.49\00:06:05.49 And so, we either, we run out of invitations 00:06:05.53\00:06:08.60 or we run out of funds, 00:06:08.63\00:06:09.96 otherwise we're gonna keep 00:06:10.00\00:06:11.43 proclaiming the wonderful love of God. 00:06:11.47\00:06:13.34 So that's how we got started. 00:06:13.37\00:06:14.90 You know, it reminds me so much of the Apostle Paul 00:06:14.94\00:06:17.57 because it was kind of like, 00:06:17.61\00:06:18.94 this was his, was with a Colossians. 00:06:18.97\00:06:22.21 Right now I can't remember 00:06:22.24\00:06:23.68 if it's Ephesians or Colossians but that was his most, 00:06:23.71\00:06:27.28 if you will is that, 00:06:27.32\00:06:29.05 I will not be any problem to you, 00:06:29.08\00:06:32.05 he did his tent making, he took care of everything 00:06:32.09\00:06:36.02 and that's what it was with the Thessalonians, was it? 00:06:36.06\00:06:38.86 Yes, Thessalonians. 00:06:38.89\00:06:40.23 My mind, but... 00:06:40.26\00:06:42.93 and then he had other people 00:06:42.96\00:06:44.37 who actually helped him to minister to others. 00:06:44.40\00:06:49.10 So why do you feel in your own words. 00:06:49.14\00:06:52.71 Why are the names of God so important? 00:06:52.74\00:06:57.15 It's a good question. 00:06:57.18\00:06:59.01 You know if I came on the Issues and Answers show, 00:06:59.05\00:07:02.85 and I said today, my name is Ernie, 00:07:02.88\00:07:06.19 and then you had me on tomorrow and I said my name is Daniel. 00:07:06.22\00:07:11.49 And then tomorrow afternoon, I said, my name is Andy, 00:07:11.53\00:07:15.30 and then later my name is Charles, 00:07:15.33\00:07:18.00 where you should kind of say 00:07:18.03\00:07:19.43 either we got a schizo or we got a nut here 00:07:19.47\00:07:22.10 what something different. 00:07:22.14\00:07:24.27 But that's exactly what God has done. 00:07:24.31\00:07:27.84 Shelley, he's come along in certain circumstances 00:07:27.88\00:07:31.58 introduced Himself by another name. 00:07:31.61\00:07:34.98 The reason that He does that is twofold. 00:07:35.02\00:07:38.72 Number one, every name 00:07:38.75\00:07:42.56 that He introduces Himself is a description 00:07:42.59\00:07:45.83 of His character 00:07:45.86\00:07:47.60 and what He will do in our life. 00:07:47.63\00:07:50.57 Number two, it is that promise. 00:07:50.60\00:07:54.00 I will do this in your life. 00:07:54.04\00:07:56.14 And as you begin to read the stories in the Bible, 00:07:56.17\00:07:59.87 as you become acquainted with these names, 00:07:59.91\00:08:02.28 the stories kind of come alive because all of a sudden, 00:08:02.31\00:08:04.95 you see in this particular circumstance, 00:08:04.98\00:08:07.42 here's God with a specific name. 00:08:07.45\00:08:10.05 Now one of the things down the road, 00:08:10.09\00:08:12.12 we're gonna talk about is the Book of Judges. 00:08:12.15\00:08:17.33 Nobody reads the Book of Judges at devotion 00:08:17.36\00:08:21.33 and yet is that name 00:08:21.36\00:08:22.96 the God introduces himself as the God of peace. 00:08:23.00\00:08:28.97 Jehovah-Shalom. 00:08:29.00\00:08:30.41 And the worst book perhaps of the Bible, 00:08:30.44\00:08:33.68 the bloodiest book, 00:08:33.71\00:08:35.04 He says hello, My name is peace. 00:08:35.08\00:08:39.31 So, I believe that names of God are important 00:08:39.35\00:08:42.95 because it's a facet of His character 00:08:42.98\00:08:45.92 that helps opens up who He is. 00:08:45.95\00:08:47.99 Now, it's not the only way to know God, 00:08:48.02\00:08:50.03 there is many ways. 00:08:50.06\00:08:51.49 It's just that we chose in our ministry to study 00:08:51.53\00:08:55.23 and to share with people, 00:08:55.26\00:08:56.67 the different names and the different promises. 00:08:56.70\00:09:00.14 One other thing that helped me personally, 00:09:00.17\00:09:03.41 in my Bible study many years ago 00:09:03.44\00:09:06.57 when I began to understand 00:09:06.61\00:09:08.98 that the hero of every story in the Bible is God. 00:09:09.01\00:09:15.38 It is not Job, you know, as a little boy, 00:09:15.42\00:09:19.25 I was taught Job just had all this faith. 00:09:19.29\00:09:22.12 Then as a teenager, 00:09:22.16\00:09:23.49 I began to read Job and he says why was I born, 00:09:23.53\00:09:27.06 I wished I would have died in my mother's womb 00:09:27.10\00:09:29.56 or what kind of faith is all of this, see. 00:09:29.60\00:09:32.07 But Job is not the hero, God is. 00:09:32.10\00:09:34.50 Joan is not the hero, God is. 00:09:34.54\00:09:37.17 David is not the hero, God is. 00:09:37.21\00:09:40.41 And so, as we have the privilege 00:09:40.44\00:09:43.01 of presenting the names of God, 00:09:43.04\00:09:45.88 telling what His character is and what His promise, 00:09:45.91\00:09:48.82 then God becomes the hero. 00:09:48.85\00:09:51.05 Now, in our ministry we hear two things 00:09:51.09\00:09:55.52 most every church that we go to. 00:09:55.56\00:09:58.66 The first one is, 00:09:58.69\00:10:00.53 "Why are we just now hearing this message 00:10:00.56\00:10:03.83 about the names of God?" 00:10:03.87\00:10:06.97 And the second one 00:10:07.00\00:10:08.47 which just thrills our hearts is, 00:10:08.50\00:10:12.14 "I knew that God loved me, 00:10:12.17\00:10:16.68 but I've really didn't know how much He love me?" 00:10:16.71\00:10:20.48 Amen. 00:10:20.52\00:10:21.85 And you know, Shelley, 00:10:21.88\00:10:23.22 the reason that I can present that message is that 00:10:23.25\00:10:29.06 I know what is like to wander from God. 00:10:29.09\00:10:32.96 I know what it's like for God to continue to seek, 00:10:32.99\00:10:36.23 and I know what is this like for God to bring one back home. 00:10:36.26\00:10:40.64 And so, I can think of no other message 00:10:40.67\00:10:43.47 that when you stand up 00:10:43.51\00:10:44.87 before 30 people sometimes and 3000 sometimes 00:10:44.91\00:10:49.88 to say God loves you 00:10:49.91\00:10:53.21 and His greatest desire is to spend eternity with you. 00:10:53.25\00:10:57.55 What better message could a ministry have. 00:10:57.59\00:11:00.46 Amen. 00:11:00.49\00:11:01.82 And it's such a beautiful ministry. 00:11:01.86\00:11:03.73 I know that everyone here, 00:11:03.76\00:11:05.36 when you're here we're so blessed at bour church. 00:11:05.39\00:11:08.06 You know, Ernie, like you, 00:11:08.10\00:11:10.77 I ran from God for a little while, 00:11:10.80\00:11:13.74 and He chased me down. 00:11:13.77\00:11:17.21 So it is something that as you... 00:11:17.24\00:11:20.61 The more we can know about God and as he said, 00:11:20.64\00:11:23.21 there is so many ways to learn about God, 00:11:23.24\00:11:26.18 and of course we... 00:11:26.21\00:11:27.88 Our primary way is just right here in the Bible, 00:11:27.92\00:11:30.92 and as the Holy Spirit inspires our understanding. 00:11:30.95\00:11:35.59 But I do know that the names have always been 00:11:35.62\00:11:38.99 of particular interest to me. 00:11:39.03\00:11:41.03 And one of the better known names is Yahweh 00:11:41.06\00:11:45.63 for which the Jews use a tetragrammaton. 00:11:45.67\00:11:51.37 Kind of talk to us about the name of Yahweh? 00:11:51.41\00:11:54.34 Yahweh is the second name 00:11:54.38\00:11:57.28 that God introduced Himself by the scriptures. 00:11:57.31\00:12:01.55 The first name is Elohim. 00:12:01.58\00:12:04.42 Elohim which we're going to discuss in another session, 00:12:04.45\00:12:08.02 simply means the covenant maker. 00:12:08.06\00:12:12.13 The second name is Yahweh. 00:12:12.16\00:12:15.10 Now, Yahweh says, 00:12:15.13\00:12:18.07 I am that I am, the great I am. 00:12:18.10\00:12:22.70 Well, what is that really mean? 00:12:22.74\00:12:26.68 And so Yahweh comes along 00:12:26.71\00:12:28.64 and says, I am everything, 00:12:28.68\00:12:32.78 I'm the standard of righteousness. 00:12:32.81\00:12:37.85 I also want a relationship with my child 00:12:37.89\00:12:44.83 and I will do everything 00:12:44.86\00:12:49.66 to give them the power to have that relationship with me. 00:12:49.70\00:12:54.50 So, Yahweh points out sin. 00:12:54.54\00:12:58.67 Now, lot of times we go in to places and they say, 00:12:58.71\00:13:01.64 that's the God of the Old Testament, 00:13:01.68\00:13:03.28 I know Him, 00:13:03.31\00:13:04.65 He is the one that points out, 00:13:04.68\00:13:06.01 you did this wrong and you did this wrong 00:13:06.05\00:13:08.35 and you did this wrong. 00:13:08.38\00:13:10.02 So we're kind of accustomed to God pointing out sin. 00:13:10.05\00:13:14.62 But you know, Shelley, 00:13:14.66\00:13:16.83 I have grandchildren that I am just crazy about. 00:13:16.86\00:13:22.76 And if one of the grandchildren came to me 00:13:22.80\00:13:25.63 and said, Grandpa, 00:13:25.67\00:13:27.70 I would like to go out and play with my wagon 00:13:27.74\00:13:31.97 and I'd said, sure, go on out there. 00:13:32.01\00:13:35.14 And the next thing I know 00:13:35.18\00:13:36.51 he is going out to the freeway to play. 00:13:36.54\00:13:41.12 Now, I wouldn't sit on the sidelines 00:13:41.15\00:13:43.02 and say, Shay. 00:13:43.05\00:13:46.39 I would do anything, 00:13:46.42\00:13:49.06 anything to get that boy's attention 00:13:49.09\00:13:52.26 to get him off of that freeway into safety. 00:13:52.29\00:13:55.70 So sometimes we look at Yahweh and they says, yeah, 00:13:55.73\00:13:59.10 He is going to point out sin, 00:13:59.13\00:14:01.27 but He points out sin 00:14:01.30\00:14:04.21 because He doesn't want anything 00:14:04.24\00:14:07.34 to separate His child from Him. 00:14:07.38\00:14:10.75 Amen. 00:14:10.78\00:14:12.15 And so, yes, He will point out sin. 00:14:12.18\00:14:14.75 But then this is the beauty of Yahweh, 00:14:14.78\00:14:17.22 He immediately turns around and gives you a path of escape, 00:14:17.25\00:14:22.12 a path to comeback to Him, the power to come back, 00:14:22.16\00:14:25.66 the want to come back. 00:14:25.69\00:14:27.30 So I like to look at Yahweh as a blank check. 00:14:27.33\00:14:32.17 Anything that you need 00:14:32.20\00:14:35.37 to keep in a relationship with God, 00:14:35.40\00:14:39.11 He'll fill it in on that blank check 00:14:39.14\00:14:41.24 and give it to you. 00:14:41.28\00:14:43.71 And all of a sudden, 00:14:43.75\00:14:45.45 you see Yahweh 00:14:45.48\00:14:46.95 in some of the different parts of the Bible 00:14:46.98\00:14:50.35 and you understand, yes, He's pointing out problems. 00:14:50.39\00:14:53.46 He's pointing out what separates 'cause He loves, 00:14:53.49\00:14:57.16 He wants to hold, He wants to caress and care, 00:14:57.19\00:15:00.86 and He's got to point it out just as any parent would, 00:15:00.90\00:15:04.77 but then He immediately gives you the road back to Him. 00:15:04.80\00:15:08.84 It's a beautiful picture of God. 00:15:08.87\00:15:11.04 Yes, I would say, grace writes the check, 00:15:11.07\00:15:13.54 faith takes it to the bank, right. 00:15:13.58\00:15:15.21 That's right. That's right. 00:15:15.24\00:15:16.58 When Moses was at the burning bush 00:15:16.61\00:15:21.15 and he asked who shall I say sends me. 00:15:21.18\00:15:25.05 Yes. 00:15:25.09\00:15:26.42 the response was Yahweh. 00:15:26.45\00:15:28.69 Yeah, Yahweh. 00:15:28.72\00:15:30.06 I am that I am. 00:15:30.09\00:15:32.69 In other words... 00:15:32.73\00:15:34.53 I was just gonna say so, 00:15:34.56\00:15:36.36 I always understood this that 00:15:36.40\00:15:38.40 God was saying I am self existing, 00:15:38.43\00:15:41.50 I'm not a generated, created being of any sort. 00:15:41.54\00:15:45.57 I am self existing and this is the God 00:15:45.61\00:15:49.21 who sent Moses to open up the way to give his children 00:15:49.24\00:15:55.62 escape from slavery, from bondage. 00:15:55.65\00:15:58.52 Yeah, He got him in back. 00:15:58.55\00:16:00.42 There's two places in the Bible 00:16:00.46\00:16:03.32 that we kind of highlight the name of Yahweh. 00:16:03.36\00:16:07.50 The first one is in Genesis the 3rd chapter, 00:16:07.53\00:16:10.77 Garden of Eden. 00:16:10.80\00:16:13.00 Now, it's interesting, Shelley, that Satan, the adversary, 00:16:13.03\00:16:17.17 he knows these names. 00:16:17.21\00:16:19.41 I'm gonna show that to you in just a second. 00:16:19.44\00:16:21.94 The first name as I mentioned in Genesis 1 is Elohim, 00:16:21.98\00:16:26.48 who is the great covenant maker, 00:16:26.51\00:16:28.12 I will never leave you. 00:16:28.15\00:16:30.69 Sub chapter two, we meet Yahweh, 00:16:30.72\00:16:33.59 the creator who says, "I am that I am." 00:16:33.62\00:16:36.83 In chapter 3 of Genesis, we see Eve going to the tree, 00:16:36.86\00:16:42.96 and she looks up 00:16:43.00\00:16:44.73 and here's this gorgeous beautiful snake 00:16:44.77\00:16:47.94 chomping on some fruit 00:16:47.97\00:16:51.81 and he says to Eve, 00:16:51.84\00:16:57.05 has Yahweh 00:16:57.08\00:17:01.15 told you that you can't eat of this fruit. 00:17:01.18\00:17:04.79 He did not use Elohim, 00:17:04.82\00:17:07.72 'cause Elohim is the covenant maker 00:17:07.76\00:17:09.82 who will never leave you. 00:17:09.86\00:17:11.39 He used the name of Yahweh. 00:17:11.43\00:17:14.60 And of course we know the story 00:17:14.63\00:17:16.70 how Eve was deceived 00:17:16.73\00:17:18.67 and eventually ate the fruit, brought it back to Adam. 00:17:18.70\00:17:23.64 In the cool of that evening, 00:17:23.67\00:17:27.24 here comes Yahweh through the garden, 00:17:27.28\00:17:30.85 just like He had done every other evening. 00:17:30.88\00:17:37.69 Except this time, it's a little different. 00:17:37.72\00:17:40.92 Yahweh is the same. 00:17:40.96\00:17:44.13 In the Hebrew, 00:17:44.16\00:17:45.53 it tends to leave us to believe that he, 00:17:45.56\00:17:48.66 as he called out for Adam and Eve, 00:17:48.70\00:17:50.47 he was singing their names. 00:17:50.50\00:17:52.23 There was a melodious voice that was calling now. 00:17:52.27\00:17:56.34 At this time, there was no answer 00:17:56.37\00:17:59.41 because when you separate yourself from God, 00:17:59.44\00:18:04.51 you want to hide 00:18:04.55\00:18:06.08 and that's exactly what they did. 00:18:06.11\00:18:08.95 And so Yahweh calls out, He finally sees them, 00:18:08.98\00:18:12.95 He asked them some question, 00:18:12.99\00:18:14.52 well, who told you, you were naked. 00:18:14.56\00:18:17.26 God knows those answers, 00:18:17.29\00:18:19.09 but it's important for Adam and Eve. 00:18:19.13\00:18:21.36 And we know what happened. 00:18:21.40\00:18:23.00 Now we're told, if we read the story 00:18:23.03\00:18:26.40 that we believe that all of a sudden, 00:18:26.43\00:18:28.94 God caste them out of the Garden of Eden. 00:18:28.97\00:18:32.77 Not quite. 00:18:32.81\00:18:34.34 As you look at Yahweh, 00:18:34.38\00:18:37.78 here is what I believe happened, 00:18:37.81\00:18:39.81 and there is some text I'm gonna give you. 00:18:39.85\00:18:42.28 I believe that He took them by the hand, 00:18:42.32\00:18:45.55 Adam and Eve, 00:18:45.59\00:18:47.72 and He walk them out of the garden 00:18:47.76\00:18:51.66 with tears down His, streaming down his face. 00:18:51.69\00:18:55.73 Jeremiah says in the 13th chapter, 00:18:55.76\00:18:58.80 God stands before His people, why won't you listen to Me, 00:18:58.83\00:19:02.57 and He says, His eyes swell up with tears 00:19:02.60\00:19:05.51 and they run down His cheek. 00:19:05.54\00:19:07.98 In Isaiah, He says, how brokenhearted He is. 00:19:08.01\00:19:12.21 So I believe He led them out 00:19:12.25\00:19:15.38 and put 'em outside the Garden of Eden, 00:19:15.42\00:19:17.52 because He didn't want them to sin. 00:19:17.55\00:19:19.62 Now, here is what's interesting. 00:19:19.65\00:19:21.46 I used to sell Bible books 00:19:21.49\00:19:22.99 when I went to school in the summertime. 00:19:23.02\00:19:24.99 And one the pictures I would show, 00:19:25.03\00:19:27.20 showed an angel with a sword, 00:19:27.23\00:19:30.97 standing in the entrance of the garden 00:19:31.00\00:19:33.13 and he was just kind of ready to let nobody in. 00:19:33.17\00:19:38.27 What a picture. 00:19:38.31\00:19:41.24 As you read there in Genesis, he says first of all, 00:19:41.28\00:19:44.71 at the entrance to the Garden of Eden was cherubim. 00:19:44.75\00:19:48.98 That means, Shelley, there were two angels. 00:19:49.02\00:19:53.79 And it says the sword was as 00:19:53.82\00:19:56.32 if it was a sword dangling in between. 00:19:56.36\00:20:01.36 Well, if you have a sword like this 00:20:01.40\00:20:03.47 and it's twisting and the sun and the rays hit it, 00:20:03.50\00:20:06.43 it sends off lights everywhere. 00:20:06.47\00:20:10.97 And so what was at the entrance of the Garden of Eden 00:20:11.01\00:20:13.84 was the two cherubim, 00:20:13.88\00:20:15.91 right in the middle was this light. 00:20:15.94\00:20:20.45 And every morning and evening, 00:20:20.48\00:20:23.39 this is where Adam and Eve could come and worship Yahweh. 00:20:23.42\00:20:28.79 What else, Shelley, 00:20:28.82\00:20:30.26 do we see in the Old Testament 00:20:30.29\00:20:31.63 with two angels with their wings touching 00:20:31.66\00:20:34.50 and the glory, Shekinah glory right there between. 00:20:34.53\00:20:38.63 They are on the mercy seat on the ark. 00:20:38.67\00:20:40.60 Yes. 00:20:40.64\00:20:41.97 That was exactly 00:20:42.00\00:20:43.34 what was at the entrance of the Garden of Eden. 00:20:43.37\00:20:44.71 Oh, that's fascinating. 00:20:44.74\00:20:46.07 So, you can see how Yahweh works. 00:20:46.11\00:20:48.14 Yes, He had to point out sin to Adam and Eve. 00:20:48.18\00:20:52.68 But He wasn't mad, He wasn't unhappy, 00:20:52.71\00:20:56.52 He was brokenhearted and then He came 00:20:56.55\00:21:00.32 and did the best He could 00:21:00.36\00:21:01.69 where they still could come to that gate 00:21:01.72\00:21:04.59 and worship Him. 00:21:04.63\00:21:06.16 That's Yahweh. 00:21:06.19\00:21:07.53 And He had to, it was love, 00:21:07.56\00:21:10.00 or by love that He led them out of garden 00:21:10.03\00:21:12.93 because He didn't want them to pluck anything 00:21:12.97\00:21:16.57 from the tree of life and eat from that 00:21:16.60\00:21:19.77 because then 00:21:19.81\00:21:21.14 they would have remained in their sin forever, 00:21:21.18\00:21:24.25 and God had a plan. 00:21:24.28\00:21:26.61 But that's the way that we need to present God. 00:21:26.65\00:21:29.98 And sometimes, you know, 00:21:30.02\00:21:31.35 can I give you one more? Please. 00:21:31.39\00:21:33.69 Children of Israel, 00:21:33.72\00:21:36.99 Jesus says, God is there at Mount Sinai 00:21:37.03\00:21:40.70 and He ask, I've done all these things for you, 00:21:40.73\00:21:44.50 fed you, give you air-conditioning, 00:21:44.53\00:21:46.27 heating at night, water to drink, 00:21:46.30\00:21:47.87 you know, will you do what I ask? 00:21:47.90\00:21:51.17 And they said, 00:21:51.21\00:21:52.54 oh, yes, Lord, yes. Tell us. 00:21:52.57\00:21:54.84 And so, He said, Yahweh said bring 'em to the mountain, 00:21:54.88\00:21:59.65 and it was there that Yahweh gave to Moses 00:21:59.68\00:22:04.62 for the children of Israel the Ten Commandments. 00:22:04.65\00:22:08.89 Now, I grew up most of my life understanding that 00:22:08.92\00:22:13.29 I should not have another God 00:22:13.33\00:22:16.63 and I should not kill 00:22:16.67\00:22:19.43 and I should not do this and I should remember. 00:22:19.47\00:22:23.74 You cannot command love. Yes. 00:22:23.77\00:22:28.11 You cannot command respect. 00:22:28.14\00:22:31.21 I can't say to somebody, you love me, 00:22:31.25\00:22:36.05 never works and God cannot. 00:22:36.08\00:22:39.02 Through study and this came from Rob Sheppard 00:22:39.05\00:22:42.56 in our studies. 00:22:42.59\00:22:44.13 We began to understand that 00:22:44.16\00:22:46.06 the Ten Commandments 00:22:46.09\00:22:48.56 were written in the future tense. 00:22:48.60\00:22:53.70 Now, when we share that with church congregations, 00:22:53.74\00:22:57.57 the Ten Commandments are written in the future tense. 00:22:57.61\00:23:01.01 We've yet for anybody to jump up 00:23:01.04\00:23:03.45 and say halleluiah, amen, 00:23:03.48\00:23:06.75 that chanting, you know, 00:23:06.78\00:23:08.15 where they said and they're kind like 00:23:08.18\00:23:09.52 okay, that's so... 00:23:09.55\00:23:10.95 What does that mean? 00:23:10.99\00:23:12.32 But what a difference it makes because God says 00:23:12.35\00:23:17.19 when you get to know me, 00:23:17.23\00:23:20.20 and that is the only way to eternal life is to know God. 00:23:20.23\00:23:25.67 He says when you have that relationship, 00:23:25.70\00:23:28.60 Yahweh says when you're my child and know me, 00:23:28.64\00:23:32.14 I will give you the power. 00:23:32.17\00:23:34.34 I will give that way of salvation 00:23:34.38\00:23:38.48 and when you know me, 00:23:38.51\00:23:40.92 well, you wouldn't even consider having another God 00:23:40.95\00:23:43.85 in front of me. 00:23:43.89\00:23:46.15 When you know me, 00:23:46.19\00:23:47.52 you'll never take my name in vain. 00:23:47.56\00:23:50.93 When you know me, 00:23:50.96\00:23:53.09 you love that I've taken a day 00:23:53.13\00:23:55.53 and set it aside 00:23:55.56\00:23:57.07 that you can be with your church family, 00:23:57.10\00:23:59.63 your family and you can be with me, 00:23:59.67\00:24:02.77 and certainly you will honor your mother and father. 00:24:02.80\00:24:06.31 Well, you wouldn't even think about killing, stealing, 00:24:06.34\00:24:10.11 committing adultery, 00:24:10.15\00:24:11.51 you would not want to do anything when you know me. 00:24:11.55\00:24:15.68 'Cause that's what covenant relationship is all about. 00:24:15.72\00:24:17.85 Absolutely. 00:24:17.89\00:24:19.22 Sometimes we get the list reversed. 00:24:19.25\00:24:21.99 If you do this, and this, and this, and this, 00:24:22.02\00:24:24.76 then you get to know God. 00:24:24.79\00:24:27.76 Well, Yahweh says, I'm the blank check. 00:24:27.80\00:24:31.93 You can't do anything without me. 00:24:31.97\00:24:34.90 You have no power without me. 00:24:34.94\00:24:37.67 And so as we go through Yahweh, 00:24:37.71\00:24:41.14 we point out to a God that yes, 00:24:41.18\00:24:43.85 He must point out sin, 00:24:43.88\00:24:45.75 but immediately gives you a way of escape. 00:24:45.78\00:24:48.82 All of a sudden, Shelley, is, 00:24:48.85\00:24:51.19 you look just a two stories 00:24:51.22\00:24:52.59 I've shared with you with a Garden of Eden. 00:24:52.62\00:24:55.16 When I began to understand that story, 00:24:55.19\00:24:57.53 that changed the whole picture. 00:24:57.56\00:25:00.33 Not that God was angry, not that God said get... 00:25:00.36\00:25:03.26 In fact I've seen pictures 00:25:03.30\00:25:04.63 where God's pointing, cussing, get out of here. 00:25:04.67\00:25:07.54 That's not God at all. 00:25:07.57\00:25:09.87 So, you can begin to see with the names of God, 00:25:09.90\00:25:14.11 it's just the facet that gives us an opportunity 00:25:14.14\00:25:17.51 just like that little girl painting a picture. 00:25:17.55\00:25:20.98 When I get through, they'll know what God is like. 00:25:21.02\00:25:24.79 And this is our prayer every time 00:25:24.82\00:25:27.36 we take the pulpit is when we get through 00:25:27.39\00:25:30.16 with the name of God, 00:25:30.19\00:25:31.53 the description that they'll know a little bit more 00:25:31.56\00:25:34.93 of what God is like, and if we can do that, 00:25:34.96\00:25:38.73 then we felt like we've done a tremendous blessing. 00:25:38.77\00:25:40.64 Amen. 00:25:40.67\00:25:42.00 Let me ask you a question that begs to be asked. 00:25:42.04\00:25:45.24 Okay. 00:25:45.27\00:25:47.14 You've been in the church for a long time. 00:25:47.18\00:25:48.84 Yes. 00:25:48.88\00:25:50.21 I know you're a strong believer. 00:25:50.25\00:25:52.31 How did learning the names of God 00:25:52.35\00:25:55.25 going into this deep study, 00:25:55.28\00:25:56.79 how has that impacted you personally? 00:25:56.82\00:25:58.49 Well, good question. 00:25:58.52\00:26:00.39 One must understand my background, I came up, 00:26:00.42\00:26:03.16 I won't mention the church town, 00:26:03.19\00:26:05.59 but I came up 00:26:05.63\00:26:06.96 in probably one of the most legalistic churches, 00:26:07.00\00:26:09.53 Adventist Churches there were. 00:26:09.56\00:26:11.63 I used to go around at the age of 16 years old 00:26:11.67\00:26:15.14 and debate in other churches 00:26:15.17\00:26:18.24 on the first day or the seventh day a Sabbath, 00:26:18.27\00:26:21.34 it allows my message, you know, 00:26:21.38\00:26:23.04 I put you down and prove I'm right. 00:26:23.08\00:26:25.11 So I was very, very realistic, uh, legalistic. 00:26:25.15\00:26:28.72 When I begin to see the names of God, 00:26:28.75\00:26:31.72 along with the philosophy that the story is always about God. 00:26:31.75\00:26:36.49 Over a period of years changed my entire concept 00:26:36.52\00:26:40.43 and relationship with God. 00:26:40.46\00:26:43.23 I used to look at God as somebody 00:26:43.26\00:26:45.07 I've got to strive to please. 00:26:45.10\00:26:49.20 When I realized that I'm His son 00:26:49.24\00:26:55.84 and wait till you hear 00:26:55.88\00:26:57.68 the one we're going to do next and he is my daddy. 00:26:57.71\00:27:00.85 Amen. 00:27:00.88\00:27:03.18 That changed my whole concept of God, 00:27:03.22\00:27:05.65 my whole relationship, 00:27:05.69\00:27:08.26 and so, I strive to know Him 00:27:08.29\00:27:12.23 and I'm kind of like Paul every once in a while, 00:27:12.26\00:27:15.06 I sit back and I say wow! 00:27:15.10\00:27:18.17 I don't do the things I used to like. 00:27:18.20\00:27:21.04 I do things I thought I would never like. 00:27:21.07\00:27:23.97 Well, who did this to me? 00:27:24.01\00:27:26.47 Well, it's God, because I began to understand 00:27:26.51\00:27:30.41 the relationship is everything. 00:27:30.45\00:27:33.78 Amen. 00:27:33.82\00:27:35.15 Well, we're just... 00:27:35.18\00:27:36.52 Ernie, thank you for being here. 00:27:36.55\00:27:38.09 We're looking forward to you joining us again next week, 00:27:38.12\00:27:41.02 because I believe 00:27:41.06\00:27:42.66 that this is a life changing message. 00:27:42.69\00:27:45.39 As Jesus told us, this is eternal life 00:27:45.43\00:27:49.40 and that is to know God 00:27:49.43\00:27:51.43 and the knowing there is a very intimate thing. 00:27:51.47\00:27:56.50 It's same word used for husband and wife 00:27:56.54\00:28:00.11 sharing intimacy together. 00:28:00.14\00:28:03.18 So, God wants you to know Him, 00:28:03.21\00:28:05.75 to know Jesus Christ whom He sent. 00:28:05.78\00:28:08.35 And there is so many names of God in the Bible. 00:28:08.38\00:28:10.65 Please join us next time 00:28:10.69\00:28:12.55 as we will be talking about a very intimate name for God. 00:28:12.59\00:28:17.86 Thank you for joining us. 00:28:17.89\00:28:19.29