Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Cynthia Powell-Hicks
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000438
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00:01 In today's society there is a lot of
00:03 bullying and peer pressure that goes on 00:05 for teenagers. And believe it or not 00:06 this is something that can lead to depression. 00:09 We're gonna be continuing our series 00:11 on depression with Dr. Cynthia 00:13 Powell-Hicks. Please join us. 00:39 Thanks for tuning in again today 00:42 and I believe this is going to be a program 00:44 that will help you recognize some 00:48 important matters in your life perhaps 00:50 in yours teens life, your children 00:52 or your grandchildren and also in our home. 00:55 But before we began, there is a scripture 00:57 that I want to read because this is one of 01:00 my favorite promises in the Bible. 01:02 It's comes from Psalm 3:3 and it says, 01:04 You, O LORD, are a shield for me; my glory, 01:09 and the one who lifts up my head. 01:13 No matter how far down you think 01:16 you're right now. God can still cup his hand 01:19 under your chin till your face heavenward 01:22 and he can bring you up out of that 01:25 pit of depression. Please help me 01:28 welcome our special guest 01:30 Dr. Cynthia Powell-Hicks and Cynthia 01:33 thank you so much for returning. 01:35 Oh thanks for having me it was such delight 01:37 the last time I was here. Well you have a 01:40 PhD in clinical psychology 01:42 and you've done a lot of work in your life 01:45 with actually a good part of your career 01:48 has been dedicated to you. You tell us 01:51 about that. Yes, I was a psychologist, 01:54 I had private practice for six years 01:57 and I worked with children that had 01:59 clinical depression as well as I specialized 02:03 working with abused children. 02:04 Why do you think that we see so much? 02:08 I mean truly today we're hearing more and more 02:11 the teen suicide rate is that the second leading 02:15 cause of death in teens or the first leading 02:17 cause? For the females, it's definitely 02:20 the first, yeah, it's the first leading cause 02:22 of death. Now see for most of us that seem 02:25 incomprehensible. Why, why are so many teens 02:29 getting clinically depressed and to that 02:32 point of feeling hopeless? 02:34 And then I just want to clarify, 02:35 you know the leading cause is because 02:37 I also include when teens are using drugs 02:41 and using alcohol because that is the 02:43 form of, you know, self destructive behavior, 02:45 which does lead to suicide and then they 02:47 have the DUIs, they have the auto accidents, 02:49 so I see it all and check together. 02:52 The teens now, it's really a rough time 02:54 for teen's especially Christian teens trying 02:57 to adhere to what they have learned 03:00 all their lives and then go off to public schools 03:02 or even in our own schools because 03:04 of the peer pressure. The people, 03:07 adults want to be accepted and teens 03:10 definitely want to be cool and accepted 03:12 and not rejected. They don't want to be 03:16 classified as nerds, I had a patient say 03:19 I don't want to do well in school. 03:21 You know because I don't want to be 03:23 classified as a nerd. Oh. Yeah, 03:25 I said a nerd just to learn in the classes 03:28 so that you can get out of school. 03:29 And then sometimes as I mentioned earlier 03:31 they will self-medicate, they will use 03:34 the marijuana. They will use excessive; 03:36 they will use the alcohol to cope 03:39 with the depression or the lack of connecting 03:43 with others. Well we know that 03:45 with the popularity of these internet sites 03:50 such as facebook and various ones that are 03:54 now available. There has been a lot of 03:57 cyber bullying where people are saying 03:59 nasty things about others and putting it 04:02 in print, lot of times it isn't true, 04:04 but they have this bullying in what kind, 04:06 what affect does bullying have on a 04:11 teenage mind. It's devastating. 04:14 I mean, we see it in the news all the time 04:16 and then the most heinous that I just 04:18 recently saw where the mother 04:20 was the one doing it. When adults started 04:23 hacking our youth, you know, 04:25 we are really having issues and really 04:26 having problems, but our youth that are having 04:32 this or teens that are having this 04:34 they are actually believing 04:36 what's happening or what they are 04:37 actually saying about them. 04:38 So a person that might be marginal 04:41 with the self image anyway because, 04:42 you know, that's kind of an awkward face of life 04:44 if we can remember back to that stage, 04:46 you now. Our hair, our teeth, our skin, 04:48 you know it so. So then when people are saying 04:50 something that you've been thinking 04:54 about yourself and then now it's on cyberspace 04:57 or say you send a picture of yourself, 04:59 you texting it to someone else 05:01 so they can see. How you look in this 05:03 particular outfit or you know how your face 05:06 or hair is looking and then they can just 05:07 store it, they can send it to the world 05:09 and that can be very devastating. 05:11 So something that you just want to share 05:13 with the friend or with one or two people 05:14 now is throughout the nation. Yeah. See 05:17 I think that's the one thing that teens 05:19 and adults like do not even stop to consider 05:22 is that everything that you put on these 05:25 chat rooms and these internet sites 05:27 once it's in cyberspace, it's there forever. 05:30 There is no bringing it back. And so 05:32 you don't really want to get on to these kind 05:36 of social networking groups 05:37 and share your most intimate details 05:40 of your life because you may regret 05:41 at the next day. Now I know that sometimes 05:45 just expectations, a parental expectations 05:48 can put enough pressure on teen to make them 05:54 feel like they can never be good enough 05:57 as well, so. Yes you're right because 06:00 adults definitely have high standards 06:02 for their children. You know they want them 06:04 to achieve, they want them to be bigger 06:06 and better than what they possibly 06:08 were coming up and sometimes people 06:11 will compare their youth to other youths 06:13 or you know, a classic examples when you see 06:16 a seven year old violinist and you have 06:19 an 18-year-old, who has been in violin classes 06:21 ever since you know elementary school 06:23 and the seven year old has head and shoulders 06:25 you know better. So it's how you process that 06:29 and it all goes back to the self-esteem 06:31 because I see patients that have that real good 06:34 self image with real good core. 06:36 They just say yeah they are just so crazy. 06:38 How could they say this about me? 06:39 You know it did hurt me for a minute, 06:42 but you know my parents and I 06:44 or my pastor and I, we talked about it 06:45 or my Sabbath school leader, you know, 06:47 we talked about it and they tell me you know, 06:50 they are just jealous of me or whatever. 06:52 However, they can package us so that 06:54 they can cope with what they have heard 06:57 is what we really try to help them in therapy 07:01 because if not then the other side of it is 07:03 you know they get the helplessness, 07:05 the hopelessness, the tearfulness, 07:07 the withdrawing from society, 07:10 not wanting to interact in any activities 07:13 no matter how fun they might be. 07:14 And then you can almost misdiagnose 07:18 some of your male patients that have 07:22 this feeling of being bully because 07:24 then instead of them internalizing it, 07:30 they'll start lashing out, 07:31 they'll be your gang leaders, 07:33 they'll be the once that are starting 07:36 to bully other people. You know, 07:38 so that they'll start feeling better 07:40 about themselves as they are taking 07:42 other people down. They'll look clinically 07:44 as a conduct disorder. So, generally speaking 07:48 I've always thought that bullies are 07:49 very insecure people. So you are saying that 07:52 if someone is bullied that's very likely to 07:55 make them enter into that cycle of behavior, 07:59 where they begin bullying because 08:01 they are very insecure. Definitely. 08:03 Okay, so let's go over some of the symptoms 08:06 because you maybe watching from home 08:08 and wondering is my teen, is my son, 08:11 my daughter, my grandchild 08:13 are they suffering from signs of what could be 08:17 considered clinical depression. 08:19 Let's talk about the signs of depression. 08:22 I think you brought along an inventory, 08:27 inventory here, from time to time 08:29 we use different inventories which 08:31 would be just questions that you would 08:32 ask of people. I have used the beck depression 08:36 scale before but this one here is the burns 08:39 inventory and it has different categories 08:40 which is talking about thoughts and feelings, 08:43 activities and personal relationships 08:46 and physical symptoms because sometimes 08:48 our physical. You know we may just think 08:50 we just have headache or chest pains. 08:51 There are lot of people running into the 08:53 hospital now and I hate to say even therapists 08:55 are running into the hospital with thinking 08:58 that they had a heart attack because 08:59 they have the chest pains. And 09:01 I don't want to simplify or trivialize it, 09:03 but it is anxiety or they are actually having 09:07 a panic attack so some. Now these 09:08 and burns depression checklist, 09:10 this would be used for teens and adults. 09:13 Definitely yes. Okay. So you would want to know 09:15 how are they feeling, are they feeling sad, 09:18 are they unhappy, are they having blues, 09:20 melancholy. Sometimes people don't 09:22 even know that the feelings that 09:23 they are having are depressed type feeling. 09:26 They just know that they are not feeling normal 09:28 or they are crying a lot. And I'm not saying 09:30 that, you know, they saw sad movie, 09:32 they start crying if they lost their dog 09:33 or whatever, if someone say something bad 09:35 about them they are crying. 09:36 It's excessive, excessive crying. 09:38 Okay. So, we look at frequencies 09:40 do they feel hopeless, discouraged, 09:43 yeah their levels of self-esteem, 09:46 do they have guilt, that's one thing 09:48 we as Christians sometimes we'll hold on 09:50 to a lot of guilt and shame. And this one 09:53 here number 7, feeling worthless or inadequate. 09:56 I know that there is a lot of Christians, 09:58 it seems who have some how and hopefully 10:01 it's not that it doesn't have to be the parents 10:05 have taught them that we are worthless 10:07 and inadequate as for as Lord is concerned 10:10 or maybe the church hasn't thought them, 10:11 but some how they process this that 10:14 I'm not worthy of God's love, I'm inadequate, 10:17 I can never do enough and they have 10:19 got in the whole picture is skewed 10:22 and its out of balance if you will of course, 10:25 yes, yeah and I always get worried 10:27 when I hear preaches and I'm a PK myself. 10:30 So, when I say this I'm not criticizing 10:33 the pastors or Chaplin Charles, yeah I could 10:36 I was sitting in one service, 10:38 where the pastor was trying to make a point 10:40 and I understood the point, but I thought 10:41 if we have a borderline person here 10:43 or someone is having some real issues 10:45 they would live feeling really bad saying that 10:47 we are sinners, we are worthless, 10:49 we are as low as a roach. You know, 10:51 I'm also glad you brought that because 10:54 I know what people are trying to say 10:58 when they say we are worthless, 10:59 but I beg the differ. I think the word 11:01 we should use is we are undeserving, 11:03 but as far as our worth to God we were worth 11:07 nothing less than the price that he paid 11:09 for us, paid his life yeah, 11:11 with his own precious blood, that's right. 11:13 So, God puts great value on. 11:15 He puts great value on you and if anybody 11:19 told you, you are worthless believe me 11:21 that is a lie of the devil because 11:23 you're worth a lot to God. Now are we 11:26 undeserving of everything he has done 11:28 for us? Yes. But he thinks you're worth 11:32 a lot. Definitely, so thank you for bringing 11:34 that out here, yes definitely. 11:36 Let's see and if you have difficulties 11:39 making decisions and I will just give 11:41 you an example, sometimes when I am 11:43 so overwhelmed, you know, I'm packing 11:45 I don't know exactly where I am going 11:46 but I know someone told me, 11:48 they are picking me up, they are taking me 11:49 to the airport, I am going to be somewhere. 11:50 I won't make decisions because at that moment, 11:53 I am so overwhelmed with what is going to happen 11:56 in the future. If anyone asks me 11:58 what the date of the day was at that time, 12:00 I would probably not give the accurate date. 12:03 So that just sometimes, you just have 12:04 to sit back and say I can make a decision 12:07 today, yes. And in this point, 12:09 I want to leave this one out is criticizing 12:11 yourself or blaming yourself, 12:13 which we see and even just that type of 12:17 behavior can lead you into a depression. 12:20 Okay that's the thoughts and feelings 12:22 on the inventory, the activities 12:24 and personal relationships. Yeah, 12:26 loss of interest in family and friends 12:28 or with colleagues, loneliness because 12:31 we're really concerned about you are 12:33 not wanting to isolate yourself because 12:35 when you are isolating yourself you thinking 12:37 those same thoughts over and over and over 12:39 again that you are worthless, 12:41 you are hopeless, I'm not gonna get 12:44 any better, I must be the way that 12:46 I'm feeling because, you know, 12:48 I am looking so bad or people are shunning me 12:51 or people like with teens they have all 12:53 this out on the internet, you know, 12:55 about me. And then those thoughts 12:56 all the sudden that's all you are hearing 12:58 is amplifying. You know over and over again 13:01 and that's what could really lead to 13:02 major depression and suicide. 13:04 Loss of interest in work and activities 13:07 and we're not just saying you have 13:09 worked an 80 hour a day, you know 13:11 I mean 80 hour a week and you just 13:13 don't want to go to one more recital 13:16 or one more church event. It's not that 13:19 it is the excess that you really 13:21 couldn't get out of bed even if you wanted to, 13:23 you couldn't just sling that 13:24 one later, just like no motivation, that's, 13:26 that's what we are talking about. 13:27 Loss of pleasure or satisfaction in life 13:30 and that's the one that I really look at because 13:32 if you have no more satisfaction 13:35 and you can't find one thing that can really 13:38 make you smile or get you out of bed 13:40 or make you want to share something 13:41 with others that let's me know that 13:44 you are probably starting to think of 13:48 other things, you know, other alternatives, 13:50 which would be suicide. Right 13:52 and the physical symptoms. 13:53 Just normal ones which we have said before 13:56 feeling sad or tired. Yeah, sleeping too much 14:00 or sleeping too little and the sleep pattern, 14:03 you know, has a lot to do with it 14:04 and I just want to make this point 14:07 because I see it so frequently in women 14:10 my age that if you are going through 14:13 the change of life and of course men 14:14 do as well. Men can suffer a 14:17 sleep disturbance from loss of testosterone, 14:19 women can suffer sleep disturbance 14:22 from loss of estrogen. So you always 14:27 and you pointed this out when you were here 14:29 before that we always need to have a 14:31 medical exam, definitely, to make 14:34 certain that what we are feeling is not just 14:40 something that's happening in the 14:42 brain chemistry, but it could be something 14:44 that is physiological and affecting mind. 14:47 Yes, okay, you are absolutely right 14:49 and worried about your health, 14:51 being like the hypochondriac. 14:53 Like if you watch something on TV, 14:54 I must have it, something like that, 14:57 alright. And now we get to the really 15:01 most severe case and that suicidal urges. 15:05 Do you have the thoughts of doing it? 15:08 Would you like to end your life? 15:09 Do you have a plan, which you know 15:12 I had discussed earlier like if someone 15:14 has just kind of awaken and said it's 15:16 the bad day, I don't want to get up, 15:17 I don't want to live versus someone 15:19 that says oh I have this cabinet full of 15:22 medication or I have the shorten in the closet, 15:24 let me clean it or let me you know see 15:26 what I can do or someone that has just said 15:31 oh I hurt someone, you know, cut themselves 15:34 in this manner and you know blood was released 15:38 and so they kill themselves or someone 15:41 that has actually made the attempt. 15:43 I had a patient. She was only 16-year-old. 15:46 God bless her soul and she is so depressed, 15:49 she started taking up cutting and so once 15:53 I was able to really start working with her 15:55 to see why would she mutilate her body 15:58 and I mean she has keloids. So she has, 16:02 I mean huge, huge black tracks all up and down 16:06 her arm and the keloids further raised 16:09 and so she wears a long sleeves, 16:11 but when you look at the sleeves, 16:12 you just asking why are you handling 16:15 your depression and your grief in this manner 16:17 and she just says that her heart hurts 16:21 so bad and she is so heavy with pain 16:24 that to cut herself releases the pain 16:28 and that pain helps her heart 16:30 and helps her process. And actually 16:32 physiologically they proven that when 16:34 you do that there is a release of endorphin. 16:36 So it's like people who had tattoos 16:39 all over them, yes, they get you can actually 16:42 become addicted to being tattooed because 16:45 that pain releases endorphin. 16:48 So you often will see that people 16:50 who have been on drug addictions, 16:52 well if they start coming off drugs 16:54 or maybe started doing a lot of tattoos. 16:56 There is something if I can, oh I know 17:00 the point I wanted to make, was that, 17:02 when I was early on in ministry. 17:05 I mean this was the first few months of 17:08 full-time ministry. I remember that 17:10 I was leading a, I was preaching in five 17:14 different cities each week, oh well, 17:15 and in one place there were only there 17:19 about 45 women, who were coming 17:20 and there was the host. The host just asked 17:24 if I would speak with this one woman 17:27 after we had finished the meeting and I did 17:30 and found out that she had saved her pills. 17:33 She was planning on committing suicide 17:36 and but after the two hour meeting she said. 17:39 Oh you know it's like how the Lord has spoken 17:42 to me and I realize that this is wrong 17:45 and I prayed with her and I said 17:46 now you promise me you are gonna go home 17:48 and dump those down the toilet, 17:51 which I found that's not a good idea 17:52 because it puts into the system, 17:55 the water system, but I said get rid of 17:58 those pills, you tell your parents. 18:00 She was still living with her parents, 18:02 she is about 26. And she said oh yes 18:05 the Lord has touched me and she was 18:07 so convincing. She so convinced me that 18:11 this thought that she had, 18:14 this abnormal thought had gone that God 18:16 had delivered her of this. 18:19 She so convinced me that I was satisfied, 18:22 we prayed. I was satisfied in the 18:25 next morning, they called to tell me 18:27 that she called, this hostess in the middle 18:30 of the night, she taken all those pills. 18:31 So I learned a lesson, you know, 18:34 what I would to done if I had it all to do 18:36 over again I would have gone home with her. 18:39 I would have seized the medication, 18:41 informed her parents, I would have told 18:44 the police even maybe. The point I'm trying 18:47 to bring up is, when someone starts 18:50 speaking of suicide, even if they have been 18:53 talking about it for a longtime, in a long way 18:56 and you think rather never going to do it. 18:58 We need to take this seriously, don't we? 19:00 I really I'm so glad that you brought 19:02 that up, definitely, because lots of times 19:05 people even if they tell you that 19:08 they are going to be okay. They have been 19:10 thinking about this for years or for months 19:13 and they just waiting for the opportunity, 19:15 but praise the Lord that you were at least 19:17 there to give her that, that hope for that day, 19:20 because that could have been the only hope 19:21 that she had in a while and so that 19:23 she could have felt normal and received 19:25 the love of God, or at least she reached out, 19:28 after that taking them she calls to tell us 19:30 she is making mistake. A lot times with 19:32 and I don't want to just genderize it, 19:34 but lots of times women do a lot of attention 19:36 seeking. So, we have some that will take 19:39 like a bottle of medication, but they 19:40 don't take like a bottle and a half 19:41 or two bottles, which they know that would 19:43 really end their lives or they may slit 19:45 their wrist, be in the tub like 30 minutes 19:47 before they know someone is coming home 19:48 and you know it takes a lot to drain 19:51 a whole bottle. You know, yeah, 19:53 you don't want, you never, never. 19:54 So what I tell everybody is to, I take every 20:00 suicidal ideation seriously. Okay. And, 20:04 definitely if they score a certain level, 20:08 where it's a major depression 20:10 or severe depression definitely 20:12 I will hospitalize because 20:15 and we would do what we call it 5150, 20:17 which is a 72-hour whole when you have them 20:19 in-house in a hospital. And this is when 20:22 they are going against their will not that 20:23 they are checking themselves, 20:24 feel necessarily with people. Okay. 20:25 And so they can't live within the 72-hours 20:28 and that's where they are being monitored 20:31 24-hours a day and then they have intense 20:35 psychotherapy, they have intense interventions, 20:37 that's where they need medication 20:39 then you can start the medication regime. 20:42 Also the one thing I just wanted to add 20:45 sometimes we have to be careful 20:46 even once we put people on medication 20:47 because sometimes it actually gives them 20:49 the energy to actually fulfill 20:51 what they have been dreaming 20:52 and wanting to do. Now is that way 20:53 suicide rates go up sometimes 20:55 when they take, initially, 20:57 yeah initially. But now there are inpatient 21:00 treatments, people can be hospitalized 21:02 against their will for 72 hours, 21:04 while they are evaluated and see if they need 21:06 further or they can check themselves 21:08 and go through some wonderful inpatient 21:11 places too, that's right, help you begin 21:14 to learn how to cope with the life to 21:16 go through cognitive behavioral therapy 21:18 where people are learning how to take 21:21 those negative thoughts and turn them around, 21:23 replace them with positive thoughts 21:25 they're getting the type of medication 21:26 they need, but there is also some great 21:28 outpatient modalities. Let's talk about, 21:31 because we don't want, I don't know 21:34 how to say this. I feel like this is such a 21:36 broad topic we are trying to cover 21:38 in such a short period of time. 21:39 We don't want you to go away feeling hopeless. 21:42 We also don't want you to think that. 21:44 It's just a matter of going 21:46 and talking to your pastor. 21:47 You mentioned earlier that the young people, 21:49 who are being bullied had talked it out 21:51 with the pastor, the Sabbath school leader 21:53 and talking it out processing is really 21:55 wonderful. But sometimes if it is a 21:58 severe clinical depression, talking 22:00 something out with someone who is not a 22:04 professional may not be enough 22:06 you need to seek out some professional help, 22:09 so talk about what are some of the treatments 22:12 for this. Well I usually like to say 22:14 the treatments that I like to say is a patient 22:17 that always already had the complete physical, 22:19 the full panel of the electrolytes 22:21 in the blood work. So that we know, 22:24 we are not working with. So we know that 22:26 everything is okay physiologically 22:28 then I like to see a patient also 22:31 being involved with medications. 22:33 So they would have to see a physiatrist 22:35 that could also help them get the levels up 22:38 you know so that they can start 22:41 being able to be at a replace, 22:43 where they can actually speak to a clinician 22:45 which would be a psychologist 22:47 or psychiatrist. Now will you say that 22:50 we're talking that's kind of a worst case 22:51 scenario right here, it's where you've got 22:53 people who have to, because some people 22:55 can have a level of depression that 22:56 they don't have to take an antidepressant. 22:58 Actually there are certain behaviors 23:00 that can pull them; I mean certain 23:02 treatments that can pull them out. 23:04 But one should get to a certain level 23:06 sometimes it's unavoidable to take 23:08 medication. You're correct. 23:10 To me it's just a quicker process of 23:13 getting healthier just like with some 23:15 physiological issues. It's a quicker process 23:18 if you go to a location, if you are 23:21 trying the lose weight versus 23:22 trying to you know you are taking 23:24 medication it is just the quicker process, 23:25 but there are other processes that you can 23:27 actually do then you would go for treatment 23:30 and you have already mentioned like behavior 23:31 modification, cognitive or regressive 23:34 type therapy, where you can actually 23:35 go to the core what actually caused. 23:38 What was the actual antecedent, 23:39 actually cause the depression it could be 23:42 something way back in your childhood. 23:43 Another point that we really didn't talk about 23:45 which we probably should is the medications 23:49 that you are taking. Some of your 23:50 medications, I mean we all hear 23:52 the commercials. You know, take this 23:53 medication and then they run past 20 side effects 23:57 you know. Lot of them are depression, 24:00 depression, yeah or make us self esteem 24:03 or libido or may; we have a lot of patients 24:06 that will start overeating with some 24:08 of the medications that there are, 24:09 even the good medication that's taking 24:11 care of your depression can cause 24:12 other problems. You know, I want to be sure 24:15 and add something here because I tried to do 24:18 as many things naturally as possible. 24:20 Yes. And I take as many natural supplements 24:26 or things that I can to try treat myself, 24:29 but one thing that I have learned is that 24:32 just because something is 'natural' 24:35 it does not mean that it is not potent 24:39 and so there can be interactions among 24:43 natural medications. Yes, yes. 24:45 And particularly among natural medications 24:48 and even with the pharmaceutical 24:50 medications that we take. So if you are 24:53 taking say. I'm trying to think of some that 24:56 people use for St. John's Wort 24:59 and Xanax as lethal. St John' Wort 25:03 with Xanax is lethal. It's deadly. Yes, 25:06 so it can really. I'm really glad 25:08 that you brought that up. Okay and there are 25:11 other things that I've heard people will say 25:13 that they are taking that. Individually 25:15 they are perfect, but when you put them 25:17 together. Right. So that's why 25:19 it's important to let the physician 25:20 or your clinician know everything 25:22 that you are taking. And it's important 25:24 even to, you know, we were self-medicating 25:26 when we are using naturals because 25:27 I remember when I was not sleeping well 25:29 someone told me take Melatonin. Yes. 25:31 And I took Melatonin and I mean I was like 25:34 the mixed up. I had been overly drugged 25:40 with just so mind obviously was not, 25:42 my melatonin level wasn't my problem, 25:45 no, and by taking that melatonin 25:47 I didn't wake up the whole next day. 25:49 I mean I was walking around. 25:51 It was almost like sleep walking. 25:53 So we want to be very careful about that, 25:55 but know let's talk about. I know as a 25:59 Christian with the scripture I opened up 26:05 with Psalm 3:3 about God being the lifter of 26:08 our head. There is something that is so 26:13 comforting to learn to turn your problems 26:16 over to the Lord isn't that? Yes there is. 26:19 And that's certainly a behavioral therapy 26:21 that you can't if we learn to quit 26:24 trying to be God in our own life 26:25 and to seek the Lord in prayer to get into 26:29 his promises to speak his word over our life. 26:32 This is something that, that can have 26:35 you know when he said in Isaiah 61: Arise, 26:38 shine; For your light has come! 26:40 I have found that often people who will speak 26:44 God's word over their life and speak 26:46 their promises that God can do a renewing 26:50 of the mind. He really can. 26:52 He is marvelous in doing that 26:53 and that's why it's so important to still 26:55 stay focus with your church and with your 26:57 community. Amen. So our time is already slipping 27:04 into eternity. I can't believe how fast 27:06 this has gone. If you could Cynthia 27:09 just look into the camera and if you 27:14 want to give a closing thought, 27:16 a word of encouragement to someone out there 27:18 who is hurting today. I just want you to know 27:23 that God is able cast all your cares 27:26 and burdens on him. He will not forsake you. 27:29 He will be there for you. He will lead you 27:32 down the right journey, down the right path. 27:35 He will provide the right people to assist 27:39 you in all of your day-to-day activities. 27:44 Amen. Amen. Thank you so much 27:46 Dr. Cynthia Powell-Hicks for joining us. 27:49 Thank you. And for those of you 27:50 who around the world, if you have hotlines 27:54 available to you call hotline. 27:56 Reach out for help or if you have someone 28:00 in your family, who is suffering 28:01 from depression. Get them some help 28:04 don't just ignore and don't think 28:06 that they can pull them out themselves up 28:09 by their own bootstraps. Thanks for joining us. |
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