Are you are
somebody you love suffering
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from sadness and
just feel a little bit
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overwhelmed by life right now.
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Are you wondering
if you are suffering
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from depression,
well please stay tune
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we have a doctor in the house
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and depression
is our topic today.
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Hi, I am Shelley
Quinn and we are very glad
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that you're joining us today on
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Issues and
Answers. If you know anyone
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who is feeling an
overwhelming sense
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of sadness or
perhaps just a lack of
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motivation call them
and tell them to tune
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in today because
our topic today is
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depression and
this will surprise you
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because our guest
share this statistic with me
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over 18 million
people in United States
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alone are
suffering from depression.
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Now, I know the
figure varies for many
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different
countries don't know what its
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like in the
country from which you are
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watching but the
point is that depression
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is something that
is a very prevalent
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and real
condition and we are gonna
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discuss that today
with our special guest.
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Let me introduce
you to her and it is
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Dr. Cynthia
Powell-Hicks. Dr. Cynthia Powell
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we're so glad that you
are here with us today.
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Thank you for having
me, I always enjoy coming
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and speaking to people about the
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effects of
depression. Well, first lets get
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little bit of
history on you what you
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have a PhD explain
to us your credentials.
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Okay, thanks for
asking, I am a psychologist
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and I have a
doctor degree in clinical
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psychology also I
spent additional time
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working with the
special topics with children.
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I am a child
psychologist by trade,
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I spend additional
time working with children
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and then I did a sub
specialty working with
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abused children
that have been neglected,
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oh, and you know
physically and sexually
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abused and emotionally abused.
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But depression
reaches all of the sectors
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you know that you
know age and raise creates.
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No respect of
persons that's for certain.
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That's for sure. I
know that your life work
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there must be times
that when you listen
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to things that
are going on and you
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witness things
that are happening in
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people's life
there must be times that
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even as a Christian
its difficult to shake
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it off and turn it
over to the Lord because
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that would be
enough to make you sad
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in your own life to
hear some of these things.
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It really can, can
affect you I can only
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equate the first
month that I worked on
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the unit that
worked with children that
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had been molested
by their actual parents
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and I would and I
will be dating myself
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yet again back in
those days they had a
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tape recorder
that you would dictate
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your notes in, so
for the first thirty
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days as I was
driving home I was sobbing
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while dictating the
notes because I have
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like a 30 minute
period and then I would
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take it in for
the stenographer too,
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to transpose the
notes. But it can't
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be so I had to
really come to terms and
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ask the Lord if
this is the ministry you
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really want me to
have than you are going
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to have to not
take away the empathy
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or sympathy, but
give me the strength
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to be able to endure.
Amen. And to recognize
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what you can
change and what you have
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to turnover to the
Lord so that. That's right.
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We have to
sometimes compartment even
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in ministry and
this is a sad admission,
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but you have to
compartmentalize your
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work and the
things that you hear
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and you have to
pray and be able to
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release it all
that burden over on the
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Lord and kind of to
keep your own sanity
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you have to
compartmentalize and be
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able to change
hats I guess is a good
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word to say.
That's an accurate way of
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explaining it
because when go into a
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particular settings
it's like the hospital
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or the clinic or you
are gonna go and give
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a presentation,
you are not really sure
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what you are going
to walk into, yeah,
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its true. And as
being a Christian, I can
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share this story
this is one of my,
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the second month I
was intern, I walked
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into a room and
when I ask the patient
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well how are you
feeling? And they will
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say obliviously
okay, and then after you
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start asking one
more questions then you
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know in which
direction you are going to go.
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So, I did a DIP
which is draw a person,
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I ask this
patient to draw a person.
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When he finish, he
had a little demon on his
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shoulder with a
little pitchfork and so you
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can only imagine
what I was thinking,
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so I than started
inquiring and asking
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more and more
about it and so he was
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speaking more and
more like dissociative
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and speaking more
of what this demon
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was telling him to
do. So, being my first
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time ever seeing a
psychotic patient I
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assume because I was you know a
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Christian in the
church, however, that
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he was demon
possessed and so I ran
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out of the room
and went straight to my
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therapist, I mean to
my supervising therapist
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I said I am not
going back in that room,
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I can't go back
and they are the demon
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possessed, I am not
a pastor and so. So,
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that's just a
little, so the Lord had did,
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to really work
with yes, to show you.
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That, that
psychosis and various mental
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illnesses really have
nothing. I shouldn't say
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never have
anything to do with demon
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possession, but
it's a rare thing because
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they are chemical
imbalances and problems.
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Well, let's for
our audience, let's our
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topic today is
depression, how would
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you define
depression. Well, what I want
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to really explain to
everyone is that sadness
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and disappointment
is a normal way of life
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it happens to all
of us and it can be,
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it can occur
because we've lost our job
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or because we are
having financial issues
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or just we are upset
and when that sadness
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which is so
normal and disappointment
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that occurs persist
over periods of time
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and then we are
having different thought
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processes as where
we are either with lost
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interest in getting
out of bed or wanting
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to go to work or
interacting with other
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people or our self
image we are starting
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to feel bad
about ourselves, we are
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looking in the
mirror and just only looking
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at the negative
side, not looking at the
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cup being half
full where I was looking
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at the cup being
half empty and if we
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have major extremes
as in sleep patterns
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or in eating or in
our weight or in our
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sexual behavior,
major you know activities
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either increasing or
decreasing or if we are
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starting to feel
hopeless and helpless
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anything like
there is nothing that can
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make us feel
better and then the more
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severe part of
the depressed moment
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would be when
people would want to end
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their lives to end
the pain and stuck or
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possibly do self
mutilation which seems
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to be on the rise
at this time. Very much
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so particularly
among the young people,
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that's what I was
gonna say and these
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are definitely the
signs of clinical depression
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however if you only
have one or two don't
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be alarmed and
run out and say oh my
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goodness you know
they told me today I am
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clinically depressed
and I must do something
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because like I am
saying it's a severity of it,
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it's the intensity or
the consistency of it.
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So, is it accurate
to say that depression
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can be
situational? Let's say that you
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have lost a mate, I know when my
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uncle died my
precious aunt who is such
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a go getter, she is
such an active and up
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person and she
suffered some great
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things in her life,
but she always bounce
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back and she told
me I mean she continued
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on with her life but
she said that it took
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her nearly a year
to get her feet under
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her and another
year to walk without
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wobbling, so it may have been a
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situational
depression as you are going
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through the
grieving process, the sadness
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or loneliness but if
depression is something
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that or the
sadness the loneliness,
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the lack of
motivation is extended for a
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long period of
time it can go into,
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where it's
effecting the brain chemistry,
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right, sure, sure.
And then you become
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chronically
depressed and they call it
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what is that clinical
depression at that point.
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Clinical
depression, I can go into major
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depression and I am
glad that you brought
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up the issue of
when you lose a loved one
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especially couples
that have been married
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for years and
people that are depending
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upon each other and
that's their support,
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that's their person,
the go to person that
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they go to when
they need to speak,
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talk to someone like
in the middle of the night
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or if they just
want to share something
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they have heard or
seen or if they are
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having issues
what is that person do?
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You know during
that time, so they have
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that void, they
have that vacuum and
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if they don't fill
it with something then
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it can go into a
far serious levels of
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depression and
clinically we really
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look at it six
months up to two years that
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a person can
really go through that,
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that process
after they have lost
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their loved one.
Yes, yes. Now, what
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about people who,
I have a friend whose
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daughter most
recently went through
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I mean she was very
active at church she
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was, she held on
a full time position
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with the
government office. She is God
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grown children, but
suddenly there was a
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change in her
behavior and she wanted to
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sleep all the time,
she started having the lot
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of headaches, they went
through various studies,
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medical studies,
to see if there was a
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physiological
reason but she got to the
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point that over a
period you could just
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see how she was on
this downhill slide
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for over a year
and then for about two
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years she got into
such a serious depression
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that medication
didn't help, they tried even
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shock treatments
didn't help, they done
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many things now praise God. Now,
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she has come back up
was like the pendulum
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has swung the
other way and she is
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doing much better.
What is the physiological
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happenings in the
brain? What's happening
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when a person gets
depressed? What actually
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causes depression?
Some people can suffer
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the loss of a job
and not get depressed.
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They may be sad some
people it can be just
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the factor that
trips them up, there are so
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many different
levels and reasons for the
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depression but
definitely chemical imbalance,
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there is hormonal
imbalances. Definitely
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before anyone
should really go and have,
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they should have a
physical, a complete
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physical, Amen.
Before they actually
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say for sure they
are totally clinically
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depressed and
most therapists and
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psychiatrists
will recommend that
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because if you have
a thyroid condition.
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I mean you could
be sitting in the
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emergency room
and they are getting
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ready to
hospitalize you, I have seen
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it before and they
are just overlooking
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something so simple
just look at the labs,
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look at the levels,
look at the imbalances
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that can be in
the brain as you have
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said before or there
could just be hormonal
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imbalances, there
lot of us pre-golden
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girls or even
golden girls, but you not
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have to bring out
that, just hormonal
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something so
simple you know, right.
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You just look at the
labs, just look at the
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levels and there
are medications or even
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psychotropic
medications or anti-anxiety
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medications, they are
just regular medications
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that your OB/GYN or
your family practitioner
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or your
endocrinologist could you know
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can prescribe for you. You know,
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I am wonder that we
have had this discussion
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because I recently
had a thyroid condition
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myself and for a
period of months I didn't feel
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depressed I wasn't
sad, I was still very
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active but the joy
the motivation, I mean
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my life is so overscheduled and
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and overcommitted
that I am constantly
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going from one
thing to another and I was
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still in motion but
what happened was I had
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a tendency to
wait till the very last
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second to do
something because I didn't
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have the joy of
preparation that I used
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to have and when I
was talking with my
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doctor I said I
don't think I am depressed,
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but for some reason I
am just, my motivation
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is down and it
turned out that my thyroid
00:13:10.41\00:13:13.46
was just that we
have just caught it
00:13:13.49\00:13:15.46
before it
completely crashed, great,
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so there are
things that happen in our
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bodies that can
affect this and I am glad
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you brought out
that people need to have
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that serious
physical exam before you
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start taking the other
drugs that are available,
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definitely. And I
am not wanting to be an
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alarmist, but I think
that you really need to
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know yourself, you
need to know your body
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and like you were
the first to say before
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someone could
say, you know you are
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looking pretty sad,
you are looking pretty
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you know
dysthymia or melancholy that
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you knew something was changed,
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you didn't really
know what it was but
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you know your
affect, your mood was
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so different. Yeah,
yes. And I want to for
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some reason I feel
impressed to say this
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right now we are
handling this kind of on
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a superficial level,
but I feel like right now
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there is somebody
that's watching who may
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think that you are
beyond hope and that its
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something that you feel
like life is hopeless and
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you are ready to take
your life. Please, please
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listen to the rest
of this program because
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my mother tried to
commit suicide several times
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and she got into that
point of feeling hopeless
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and the interesting
thing is there is so many
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times when
people, when there is an
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intervention in
suicide that the person who is
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considering taking
their life if you can
00:14:35.93\00:14:39.46
intervene that within
24 hours that thoughts
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gone from their
head and they will never
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try it again. Now,
when we get to that
00:14:46.14\00:14:50.10
level of being
suicidal if someone is speaking
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of suicide, someone
is thinking of suicide
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what do we do? Well,
I would recommend as to
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get them intervention
immediately, take them
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to the hospital,
take them to a doctor so
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that someone can
actually talk to them
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further to see if
it's a suicidal idea or a
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suicidal ideation
or if they would had a
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suicidal attempt
because some people may
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say oh I just, I am
not feeling well today
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I just would like to
die than someone else
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may say I have these
bottle of pills and I am
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going into the
kitchen, I am gonna you know,
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I don't want to
give suggestions or ideas
00:15:27.22\00:15:29.22
but you know that
they might want to end
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their lives that way
or someone may say you
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know here's my risk
I have already tried
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this and this or you
know how come I woke up,
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I took this bottle of
pills so you definitely
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would like someone a
health professional or
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mental health
professional to be able
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to intervene with
that and what we are
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also need to know is
because we have to go
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outside of our
comfort zone like speaking
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to our pastor or
family or friends it doesn't
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mean that we are
less of a Christian or
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that our walk with
Christ is any less.
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Oh! Cynthia I am so
glad you said that because
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what I have found
is that many Christians
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feel guilty for being
depressed and you know
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I also want to say
this that sometimes pastors
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are not really
trained in handling that
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and may be your
husband or your wife or
00:16:17.83\00:16:20.57
your spouse or
maybe a parent is telling
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you snap out of it,
you know come out of
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this you don't need to
mope around all the time
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and its impossible for
people to snap out of it
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if they are clinically
depressed. So, depression
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is not, is not a
mental condition so much
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as it is a physiological
condition, it's an illness
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is it not? It's an
illness just like hypertension
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or like cancer or
like diabetes. It's just
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an illness that
recently people are coming
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to terms with and
saying that there is no
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shame in having a
mental disorder because
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if I told you I
was hypertensive and my
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medication wasn't
working and I would ask
00:17:02.92\00:17:05.71
you for advise but if
I had a mental illness
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nine times out of ten
I wouldn't tell you that
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and I wouldn't share
what type of medications
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that I was taking,
I guess you even use
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the words like
depression and mental illness
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and equating that
its like wait, yeah,
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you know, you are
trying say that I am
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mentally ill and when
you are mentally depressed
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then what can we
say it is something that
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is effecting the mind
and often it is chemical.
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Now, for that very
reason I have interviewed
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a number of doctors
who believe, Christian
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doctors, who are
trying to do a way
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with the idea and
put to rest I should say
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the myth that it is
wrong for a Christian
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to take an
antidepressant would you how
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do you feel about
that? What role do
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antidepressants play
in treatment? I see it
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as a major
stabilizer because the one thing
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is you don't want
the patient to continue
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spiraling out of
control and if you are
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constantly feeling
worthless, hopeless
00:18:07.76\00:18:10.21
and useless, the
goal is to elevate you to
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make you feel
better, to make you feel as
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normal as you
possibly can and to keep you
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from wanting to harm
yourself. And is it not
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true I was, I
remember Dr Neil Nedley many
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of our audience
members will be familiar with
00:18:25.26\00:18:29.07
that name and he has
written a book called
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Depression The Way
Out and he says that
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when the serotonin
level is so low that
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sometimes it is
absolutely necessity to put
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people on an
antidepressant which then
00:18:42.56\00:18:45.71
helps this the
production of serotonin and
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then once you get
them up to a normal level
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now you can start
treating them with
00:18:52.39\00:18:54.08
cognitive behavioral
therapy and whatever,
00:18:54.11\00:18:57.28
you know the idea of
positive thinking but you
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can't reach them when
they are that low. So,
00:19:00.33\00:19:03.14
you have to get them
as you said stabilize,
00:19:03.17\00:19:05.68
okay, and then you
can start even possibly
00:19:05.71\00:19:08.16
weaning them off that
medication but its not
00:19:08.19\00:19:11.48
something that
just happens by itself,
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is that right? You
are absolutely right, and
00:19:13.69\00:19:15.82
it is just like
hormonal levels and you can
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always test those,
you know going to your
00:19:17.96\00:19:20.32
physician also and
having lab work done
00:19:20.35\00:19:23.33
but you are
absolutely right with those
00:19:23.36\00:19:25.65
levels because if
you can't get people
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up to the level that
they need to be than they
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are not gonna be able
to receive the additional
00:19:29.49\00:19:31.49
type of treatment.
Okay. So, what about,
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what I am hearing a
lot of lately is people
00:19:34.51\00:19:38.96
who are having
anxiety attacks, how do
00:19:38.99\00:19:42.70
anxiety attacks tie in
with depression, can it
00:19:42.73\00:19:48.31
lead to
depression or what is causing
00:19:48.34\00:19:50.24
the anxiety of
that? Well, unfortunately
00:19:50.27\00:19:51.90
almost everything
kind a leads to that level,
00:19:51.93\00:19:54.39
okay, of depression
and its anything that
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is excessive but
once again go back to the
00:19:57.11\00:20:00.68
hormones, go back
to your other levels of
00:20:00.71\00:20:03.57
chemicals within
your bodies to see and
00:20:03.60\00:20:06.90
also reduce the
pressure and the stress
00:20:06.93\00:20:10.17
in your life because
that can trigger anxiety.
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I tell women all the
time wherever I go hang up
00:20:13.38\00:20:16.86
your supergirl
suit you know, I mean we
00:20:16.89\00:20:19.95
multitask all the
time, all the time hang up
00:20:19.98\00:20:23.37
that suit because
that can lead to anxiety,
00:20:23.40\00:20:25.89
overwhelmingness
just listening to your
00:20:25.92\00:20:27.52
schedule that you
are gonna be doing within
00:20:27.55\00:20:28.81
the next 24
hours would overwhelm
00:20:28.84\00:20:31.80
some people but
you are able to balance
00:20:31.83\00:20:34.81
it and handle it
very well. I mean you look
00:20:34.84\00:20:36.91
very gracious you
know, you are tried,
00:20:36.94\00:20:41.02
but the average
person might not be able
00:20:41.05\00:20:43.84
to handle that and
that would put them
00:20:43.87\00:20:45.58
into an anxiety
attack and then they
00:20:45.61\00:20:47.29
might start having some of the
00:20:47.32\00:20:49.57
symptomatology which
would be the headaches,
00:20:49.60\00:20:53.04
the clamminess in
the hands, the dizziness,
00:20:53.07\00:20:57.05
the just
overwhelmingness you know, yeah.
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So, if let's talk
about because we want to give
00:21:00.27\00:21:04.78
you hope today
there are so many people
00:21:04.81\00:21:06.88
that you know life
can be overwhelming
00:21:06.91\00:21:09.42
and particularly with
the economic down turn
00:21:09.45\00:21:11.61
it seems that we are
seeing many more calls
00:21:11.64\00:21:14.58
to 3ABN about
issues of depression people
00:21:14.61\00:21:18.33
who are sad besides
number one if there is
00:21:18.36\00:21:22.82
someone in your
family you are a loved one
00:21:22.85\00:21:25.41
who are feeling this
way, I have talked with a
00:21:25.44\00:21:28.61
lady the other day
praise the Lord who had a
00:21:28.64\00:21:31.23
suicidal thought
and she said as soon as
00:21:31.26\00:21:34.75
she did she just was
impressed by the lord
00:21:34.78\00:21:36.81
to drive herself to
the hospital, which doesn't
00:21:36.84\00:21:39.58
always happen but then
she went to the hospital
00:21:39.61\00:21:42.59
and within 48
hours she had gone beyond
00:21:42.62\00:21:46.34
that crisis. Now,
she is seeing a Christian
00:21:46.37\00:21:50.26
physiologist, excellent,
and she is in treatment
00:21:50.29\00:21:52.91
and doing much,
much better. There are
00:21:52.94\00:21:56.36
people who are
chronically depressed,
00:21:56.39\00:21:58.16
but we want to
give you a hope and some
00:21:58.19\00:22:01.54
ideas so first is
if seeking intervention
00:22:01.57\00:22:06.48
if it serious but we
should seek professional help,
00:22:06.51\00:22:10.73
talk with your doctor
get them the medical exam,
00:22:10.76\00:22:13.82
if you are diagnosed
with clinical depression
00:22:13.85\00:22:18.85
what are some of
the treatments other
00:22:18.88\00:22:20.57
than taking
anti-anxiety and anti-depressant
00:22:20.60\00:22:24.20
drugs? If you are truly
a major clinical depressed
00:22:24.23\00:22:27.23
person I would still
recommend the medication
00:22:27.26\00:22:30.24
if I could, right
starting with that, the
00:22:30.27\00:22:31.99
medication and then get
in a support group, okay.
00:22:32.02\00:22:35.58
And then have a
therapist you can see
00:22:35.61\00:22:38.69
a psychiatrist,
social worker, psychologist,
00:22:38.72\00:22:40.98
marriage, family,
child counselor they are
00:22:41.01\00:22:43.03
more than capable
of helping you with how
00:22:43.06\00:22:46.29
to function and
process within your day because
00:22:46.32\00:22:50.16
that's how we want to
lift people up. So that,
00:22:50.19\00:22:53.04
they can function
and become productive
00:22:53.07\00:22:55.72
citizens as they used
to be and have a normal
00:22:55.75\00:22:58.06
pattern and normal
activities, also get
00:22:58.09\00:23:01.39
yourself involved
with support groups with
00:23:01.42\00:23:03.48
church groups, I tell
you if you ever want to fill
00:23:03.51\00:23:07.06
loved and needed go
and tell someone, hey
00:23:07.09\00:23:11.20
I have free time what
can I do? Churches have
00:23:11.23\00:23:13.80
different
ministries, Amen. Amen.
00:23:13.83\00:23:15.96
And you know I
think that prayer if
00:23:15.99\00:23:19.29
getting involved
with people who will pray
00:23:19.32\00:23:21.18
with you, definitely,
learning to turn your
00:23:21.21\00:23:23.02
problems over to the
Lord, learning to claim
00:23:23.05\00:23:25.46
the promises of God
if you are going to.
00:23:25.49\00:23:27.37
If you want to take
those negative thoughts
00:23:27.40\00:23:29.92
captive and make
them obedient to the
00:23:29.95\00:23:32.13
will of the Lord. If
you get the promises of
00:23:32.16\00:23:34.78
God in your heart
and kind of to overcome
00:23:34.81\00:23:39.59
your negative
thought get God thoughts in
00:23:39.62\00:23:42.40
your heart,
definitely, and that can really
00:23:42.43\00:23:43.74
be helpful can it
not. Definitely. And be
00:23:43.77\00:23:46.24
careful who you
associate with. And so what
00:23:46.27\00:23:49.17
you are saying is,
if you are feeling in a
00:23:49.20\00:23:50.98
melancholy mood and
you have a friend who is
00:23:51.01\00:23:53.59
always down in the
mouth in melancholy,
00:23:53.62\00:23:56.25
a negative that can,
attitudes are contiguous
00:23:56.28\00:23:59.90
like that. Oh!
Definitely, definitely. So,
00:23:59.93\00:24:02.40
find someone that's
just the opposite. Yeah,
00:24:02.43\00:24:04.44
that's very positive
and very active. If that's
00:24:04.47\00:24:08.20
not gonna you know overwhelming,
00:24:08.23\00:24:11.88
definitely if you
aren't able to handle the
00:24:11.91\00:24:13.89
schedule but definitely
be around uplifting people.
00:24:13.92\00:24:16.89
Let me ask you this
question because we just
00:24:16.92\00:24:18.99
have a few more
minutes but are there
00:24:19.02\00:24:20.80
certain people who are
more prone to depression
00:24:20.83\00:24:23.91
and are there
certain people who are more
00:24:23.94\00:24:26.35
resistant to
treatment because I do know
00:24:26.38\00:24:29.18
when you are talking
about going to therapy
00:24:29.21\00:24:30.90
I have talked with
so many people who been
00:24:30.93\00:24:33.62
to a therapist
and said ah! You know,
00:24:33.65\00:24:35.90
it was just nearly
life changing for them.
00:24:35.93\00:24:38.03
We have a friend who
was having anxiety attacks
00:24:38.06\00:24:42.26
and it turned out that
a project he was working
00:24:42.29\00:24:45.42
on in just a recent year
connected in his brain to
00:24:45.45\00:24:51.84
something he had
worked on like 15 years ago
00:24:51.87\00:24:54.97
that was a very, it
was a project where he
00:24:55.00\00:24:58.21
saw a lot of
trauma, where he stuffed it,
00:24:58.24\00:25:00.80
he didn't get
deprogrammed from the
00:25:00.83\00:25:03.78
horrendous things
he had seen and so now
00:25:03.81\00:25:06.40
working on a similar
project kind of opened
00:25:06.43\00:25:09.10
up things for his past
but for men in particular
00:25:09.13\00:25:12.65
it seems that
women are anxious to talk
00:25:12.68\00:25:15.94
out their problems,
yes, but is it more difficult
00:25:15.97\00:25:18.73
for a man to go
and admit that he need
00:25:18.76\00:25:21.12
somebody to talk to.
Lots of times because men
00:25:21.15\00:25:24.17
are the head of the
household, men are always
00:25:24.20\00:25:25.96
in charge. Men feel
that if they show that side
00:25:25.99\00:25:29.78
of them then
everything will fall apart and
00:25:29.81\00:25:32.45
then people will
think less of them a lot of
00:25:32.48\00:25:35.12
the times and
especially when you are talking
00:25:35.15\00:25:36.85
about mental illness.
If you just talk about
00:25:36.88\00:25:38.68
regular health
more women visit the
00:25:38.71\00:25:42.91
physician or a
therapist than men do.
00:25:42.94\00:25:45.10
Lots of time we just
see men in the emergency
00:25:45.13\00:25:48.39
room and they have
to see you versus then
00:25:48.42\00:25:51.94
when they just wanna
do preventative things
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but women will ran
to the physician quite a
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bit you know just for
prevention, so you are
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absolutely right
and you also mentioned
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like the trigger point
for this particular person
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with something
that he has suppressed
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for years and
years. So, that's why lots
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of times when you go
for therapy you go and
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you have
regressive therapy, where they
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always say tell me
about your childhood
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because that is
pretty crusade and you see it
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almost in every
movie and people are lying
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on the sofas, but it
really tells you about
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the adult that you
are seeing clinically
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and all this. Are
they are more women
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depressed then
men or do we see any
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I mean as we said it effects all
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nationalities, its
effects all social and
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economic situations
but, and the answer to that
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question is the reason
that we see at least as
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this is my belief
that we see more women
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as far as you know the
CTC was stated that the
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more women that are
clinically depressed
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because more of us are
going to the doctors. So,
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we are more you know
they are regulating us
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more and so the
doctors are reporting that
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there are more women
at that time. You know
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Cynthia, I can't
believe that our time is already
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gone and I feel like
we just barely touched
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on this, you we
will come back and talk
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with us some more on
this topic will you not?
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Of course, thank you
so much and thank you
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for being here and
I just admire you the
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work that you have
done in your life and
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continue to do and I
know it hasn't always
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been easy. Thank you
so much for having me.
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We are very
blessed, again we just want
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to encourage you
if you are feeling
00:27:25.53\00:27:28.32
overwhelmed talk to a
pastor, talk to a friend,
00:27:28.35\00:27:31.54
go to your doctor,
find out if you need
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to have a medical
exam, check the thyroid,
00:27:35.29\00:27:37.88
check out what's
going on in your life.
00:27:37.91\00:27:39.86
It could well be
that, that life is just
00:27:39.89\00:27:43.17
overwhelming you by
problems and this is
00:27:43.20\00:27:44.92
the situational
temporary thing but if you
00:27:44.95\00:27:48.71
had been suffering a
feeling of sadness or
00:27:48.74\00:27:51.39
loss of motivation
or just feeling like you
00:27:51.42\00:27:54.59
don't know if you can
go on with life very long,
00:27:54.62\00:27:57.90
you need help and
please reach out and get
00:27:57.93\00:28:01.54
that help and don't
think that you could
00:28:01.57\00:28:03.81
just pull yourself up
by your bootstraps, but
00:28:03.84\00:28:06.45
remember to pray turn
that burden over to the Lord
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and ask him to
lead you to someone who
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can help you today,
thanks for joining us.
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