Have you ever suffered a breakdown of communication 00:00:01.98\00:00:03.72 between you and someone you love, 00:00:03.75\00:00:05.37 how did that affect your relationship? 00:00:05.40\00:00:07.66 Well you know when we think about it there 00:00:07.86\00:00:09.62 was a breakdown of communication between man 00:00:09.65\00:00:13.25 and God in the Garden of Eden. But God knew that the 00:00:13.28\00:00:17.68 relationship wouldn't stand unless 00:00:17.71\00:00:19.68 He bestowed it and He did just that. 00:00:19.71\00:00:22.14 Please join us today on Issues and Answers, 00:00:22.17\00:00:24.87 as we look at the restoration of communication with God. 00:00:25.22\00:00:29.35 Hello, I am Shelley Quinn and we are so glad that 00:00:55.23\00:00:57.54 you've joined us today, no matter where you're tuning 00:00:57.57\00:01:00.12 in from around the world, whether you're watching us 00:01:00.15\00:01:02.76 on Television, by Internet or listening by radio. 00:01:02.79\00:01:05.34 I think this is a program that you're going 00:01:05.37\00:01:07.07 to really enjoy. I wanna share a scripture 00:01:07.10\00:01:10.32 with you and it's a scripture that has a lot of meaning 00:01:10.35\00:01:14.01 and sometimes we seem to, we can read past this 00:01:14.04\00:01:18.01 one without really catching the depth of it. 00:01:18.04\00:01:20.41 It comes from John 17:3 and the Bible says this is Jesus 00:01:20.94\00:01:25.56 speaking, he says, this is eternal life that they may 00:01:25.59\00:01:30.45 know you, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom 00:01:30.48\00:01:35.37 you have sent, that's eternal life to know God, 00:01:35.40\00:01:39.59 to know this God of love, of righteousness, 00:01:39.62\00:01:43.33 a God of mercy to know him is to love him and today 00:01:43.36\00:01:48.60 we have a special guest with us, this is a man who came 00:01:48.63\00:01:53.42 to know God a little later in life and when he found 00:01:53.45\00:01:57.46 out what God was like and who he was, he 00:01:57.49\00:02:00.38 surrendered his life totally and completely to him. 00:02:00.41\00:02:04.17 And he is now enjoying eternal life I believe that, 00:02:04.81\00:02:08.93 Amen, don't you Jim, absolutely, surely I do, 00:02:08.96\00:02:11.19 oh glory to God. Jim Ayer, Ayer I knew I would do that, 00:02:11.22\00:02:15.17 because well that's okay, if it's in, if 00:02:15.20\00:02:17.00 it's in India they say Iyer. Well, someone told me Ayer 00:02:17.03\00:02:20.27 they corrected me and I knew I am just gonna say 00:02:20.30\00:02:22.02 that wrong today. Jim Ayer and you are with an 00:02:22.05\00:02:25.76 Adventist World Radio (AWR), that's right. 00:02:25.79\00:02:29.04 You are a vice president. How long have you been 00:02:29.07\00:02:31.07 with AWR? About three and half years. 00:02:31.10\00:02:33.02 Alright and what are you, what do you with them? 00:02:33.05\00:02:36.45 Well, one of great things I get to do, I am with the 00:02:37.23\00:02:39.30 Making Waves. Have you ever heard of Making Waves, 00:02:39.33\00:02:42.70 I believe so, that's a popular program on 3ABN, 00:02:42.73\00:02:45.73 on 3ABN several times a week. I get to travel around 00:02:45.76\00:02:48.19 the world and talk to the people about how their lives 00:02:48.22\00:02:51.61 have been dramatically altered when they heard 00:02:51.64\00:02:53.51 the Gospel message through radio. 00:02:53.54\00:02:55.06 Amen, and it's, it's tremendous Shelley what God 00:02:55.09\00:02:58.10 is doing out there, you know, this program Making Waves 00:02:58.13\00:03:01.52 is very popular with our viewers, because 00:03:01.55\00:03:03.48 you have such exciting testimonies and speaking 00:03:03.51\00:03:07.90 of exciting testimonies you have one as well. 00:03:07.93\00:03:11.18 Jim could you just give our viewers just a little 00:03:11.21\00:03:16.25 synopsis of what God has done in your life. Well, 00:03:16.28\00:03:17.97 just a couple of snippets, I was a drug dealer, 00:03:18.59\00:03:21.04 alcoholic and a thief actually, it's amazing, 00:03:21.07\00:03:24.14 it's didn't look like this at all. But God came 00:03:24.17\00:03:27.24 in and spoke to me I mean literally spoke to me and it, 00:03:27.27\00:03:32.51 it didn't take, it didn't really take, it was kind 00:03:32.54\00:03:36.69 of interesting it took actually about two years 00:03:36.72\00:03:39.18 and God spoke me again and finally that time it 00:03:39.21\00:03:41.79 was like basically. Ayer excuse me, 00:03:41.82\00:03:43.41 when you speak to you, you think are you speaking 00:03:43.44\00:03:45.87 of life 1st Kings 19:12 that a still small voice for Lord 00:03:45.90\00:03:49.28 where He is impressing his thoughts upon you almost 00:03:49.31\00:03:52.55 to the point they seem audible. 00:03:52.58\00:03:53.97 It could very well been Shelley, but I mean to me it 00:03:54.00\00:03:57.34 was just like you and I are talking right now 00:03:57.37\00:03:59.31 and God one time said Jim, tonight is your last night 00:03:59.34\00:04:02.20 to decide, you've got to make up your mind and there 00:04:02.23\00:04:04.74 was a cross roads of eternity right there, wow, 00:04:04.77\00:04:07.25 and that was the moment, that was the turning 00:04:07.28\00:04:09.58 point in my life but you know even that didn't stick, 00:04:09.61\00:04:12.50 I started studying and praying and learning 00:04:12.53\00:04:16.99 God's word. I even had a call to the ministry but some 00:04:17.02\00:04:20.67 way somehow because I kind of quit praying as much, 00:04:20.70\00:04:23.83 I stopped studying as much, 00:04:23.86\00:04:25.06 I lost that communication with God, 00:04:25.09\00:04:27.83 when I had the call I turned my back on it. 00:04:27.86\00:04:30.83 I went off into the business world, 00:04:31.45\00:04:33.77 became very successful in the business world, 00:04:33.80\00:04:35.92 very successful and sitting in a church pew, look nice, 00:04:35.95\00:04:40.13 did all the right things, paid tithe, 00:04:40.16\00:04:41.89 did all these good things. But I really believe I 00:04:41.92\00:04:44.83 was lost and then God again spoke to me and this time 00:04:44.86\00:04:47.81 I think it was more of the internal so Jim, 00:04:47.84\00:04:51.15 the Holy Spirit may be poured out all around you, 00:04:51.88\00:04:53.98 you will never recognize or receive it, and I thought, 00:04:54.01\00:04:56.66 wow, wow, I can't let that happen in my life. 00:04:56.69\00:05:00.00 I've got to do something and so it was an interesting 00:05:00.03\00:05:02.66 trail how God continued to lead me and wow, 00:05:02.69\00:05:06.08 what a, what a journey it's been Shelley. Yes, 00:05:06.11\00:05:08.74 it has been. So, that kind of gives me then a glimpse 00:05:08.77\00:05:14.13 into why you have chosen today's topic and that 00:05:14.16\00:05:18.88 is restoration of communication with God, 00:05:18.91\00:05:22.61 when you, when God first got your attention did you 00:05:22.64\00:05:28.73 feel that you were like Adam and Eve that you were 00:05:28.76\00:05:32.06 running from him. You know, I didn't even, 00:05:32.09\00:05:34.92 didn't even know God. I mean, I had no concept of 00:05:34.95\00:05:37.93 what God was. So, you didn't grow up in a Christian home, 00:05:37.96\00:05:40.07 didn't grow up Christian home really, you know, 00:05:40.10\00:05:42.28 my mom and dad said well you know you go to church, 00:05:42.31\00:05:45.62 as I was child they thought it's good you should go, 00:05:45.65\00:05:48.83 but they didn't go and you know I just kind of went 00:05:48.86\00:05:53.64 but I never heard anything, as a child it just never 00:05:53.67\00:05:56.59 stuck and so I quit going when I was old enough 00:05:56.62\00:05:59.83 as said I don't want to do any more to do with this. 00:05:59.86\00:06:01.36 You know high school, I thought the only time 00:06:01.39\00:06:03.28 I'd go to a church was to take a cute girl or something 00:06:03.31\00:06:06.14 you know some good excuse. 00:06:06.17\00:06:07.38 And, but I just didn't want go and so I just totally 00:06:08.13\00:06:11.56 wandered, wandered away. So, you believed there 00:06:11.59\00:06:14.60 was a God you would just agnostic. 00:06:14.63\00:06:16.75 Yeah, I kind of believed there was a God but it was, 00:06:17.81\00:06:20.19 it was during that time period when everybody had 00:06:20.22\00:06:22.72 some great ideas about something you know even 00:06:22.75\00:06:25.35 Timothy Leary, you know drugs are the ultimate 00:06:25.38\00:06:27.74 way to God. LCD is the way to find God and so, 00:06:27.77\00:06:31.09 but you know, I don't know who Timothy Leary 00:06:31.12\00:06:33.00 was that he sure had crazy ideas. 00:06:33.03\00:06:35.17 That was his own desire. Well, and you know somehow 00:06:35.20\00:06:38.81 praise the Lord, by the grace of God I entirely missed 00:06:38.84\00:06:42.97 I remember when I was in high school that there was 00:06:43.00\00:06:46.93 reports of people doing marijuana and things 00:06:46.96\00:06:49.77 and I would just avoid those people like the plagues, 00:06:49.80\00:06:52.92 so somehow even in college I was blessed that I missed 00:06:52.95\00:06:55.91 that whole culture. You see it's interesting this 00:06:55.94\00:06:59.98 was what the devil wants to totally do, 00:07:00.01\00:07:02.29 he wants to block out God, he wants us to think there 00:07:02.32\00:07:05.52 is no such thing as God. In the beginning 00:07:05.55\00:07:10.16 we're told in the Bible that the devil rebelled against 00:07:10.19\00:07:14.26 God he begins thinking that he could do things better 00:07:14.29\00:07:16.60 than God. He had this whole plan in his mind. 00:07:16.63\00:07:19.69 He began sharing with everybody in the universe 00:07:20.25\00:07:23.27 that why if I was in that position I could do things 00:07:23.30\00:07:26.29 so much better and he was so well his stuff 00:07:26.32\00:07:31.36 was at the, may be the right way to put it is, 00:07:31.39\00:07:33.17 his stuff was incredible that many believed him 00:07:33.20\00:07:36.04 and the Bible says there was war in heaven now many, 00:07:36.81\00:07:39.71 many think that that's probably a war 00:07:39.74\00:07:41.62 of words or war of ideas and it certainly was, 00:07:41.65\00:07:44.23 it says he ultimately he was cast out down to this 00:07:44.26\00:07:48.22 earth and you know at that time Shelley, 00:07:48.25\00:07:50.57 God had just done a beautiful new creation Adam and Eve, 00:07:50.60\00:07:54.47 man and woman and this was going to be his crowning 00:07:54.50\00:07:57.34 achievement. He said let us make man in our image, 00:07:57.37\00:08:00.32 after our likeness we were to be created in the 00:08:00.35\00:08:03.34 image of God. Amen, imagine that you know and it is 00:08:03.37\00:08:07.61 so exciting to think about that but then God says 00:08:07.64\00:08:10.77 you know, there needs to be a test you because 00:08:10.80\00:08:13.01 there's been this whole situation going on in heaven 00:08:13.04\00:08:16.63 and there does need to be a test of loyalty. 00:08:16.66\00:08:18.73 So, if you love me, Adam, if you love me, 00:08:18.76\00:08:21.54 don't go near this tree over here, 00:08:21.57\00:08:23.48 this is the tree of knowledge of good 00:08:23.51\00:08:25.60 and evil. If you love me just stay from that one tree, 00:08:25.63\00:08:27.52 I have given you every tree in the garden that's good, 00:08:27.55\00:08:31.16 just stay away from that one and you know we find 00:08:31.19\00:08:34.46 that here Eve gets away from the side of her husband. 00:08:34.49\00:08:37.63 She goes up and she sees this tree. 00:08:37.66\00:08:40.42 Why this tree it looks nice and she goes up 00:08:40.45\00:08:43.29 and you know there is a serpent in that tree, 00:08:43.32\00:08:45.23 Shelley that says. Hey Eve, Eve darling, 00:08:45.26\00:08:48.52 come a little closer, he spoke in a voice why she 00:08:48.55\00:08:51.84 thinks never heard of. A serpent speaks 00:08:51.87\00:08:54.39 in a human voice. He says, Eve God say you shouldn't 00:08:54.42\00:08:58.28 do this, but Eve he knows from the day you do it, 00:08:58.31\00:09:00.65 you will be just like God, go ahead try it, try it. 00:09:00.68\00:09:03.65 Ayer, you know even he was a little more insidious 00:09:03.68\00:09:07.35 than that because he first planted that seed of doubt 00:09:07.38\00:09:10.17 didn't he, didn't just say God said you, 00:09:10.20\00:09:12.46 you shouldn't do this, but he said did God really 00:09:12.49\00:09:15.68 say this, like are you sure this is what God said 00:09:15.71\00:09:19.06 and you and I both know we run into it in the ministry 00:09:19.09\00:09:22.49 all the time that often this is what happens, 00:09:22.52\00:09:25.42 it's kind of like people will read something and they 00:09:25.45\00:09:27.33 will say, oh, yeah, but is that what God really means 00:09:27.36\00:09:30.87 that I can't do this, that or the other, 00:09:30.90\00:09:33.44 and so he started there and start getting her to doubt 00:09:33.47\00:09:37.82 and then he starting sucking her in, 00:09:37.85\00:09:40.32 didn't he? He did and then he says you know go ahead 00:09:40.35\00:09:42.71 try it Eve, well she begins thinking about it, 00:09:42.74\00:09:45.73 just as you said, you know this concept begin sticking 00:09:45.76\00:09:48.11 those things. Well may be God really doesn't 00:09:48.14\00:09:50.17 what me to know how good this is. 00:09:50.20\00:09:52.00 And she takes that fruit whatever it was, 00:09:53.04\00:09:55.16 she begins eating and then all of a sudden we're told 00:09:55.19\00:09:57.56 she feels this accelerating feeling, 00:09:57.59\00:09:59.64 this is exciting, this is wonderful and it's just like 00:09:59.67\00:10:03.48 today the devil is handing out drugs to people, 00:10:03.51\00:10:06.68 just to try it, here you'll be like God, go ahead, 00:10:06.71\00:10:09.45 it'll lift you higher, it'll make you feel wonderful 00:10:09.48\00:10:12.68 go ahead. And you know drugs and alcohol 00:10:12.71\00:10:16.14 and all these things are the devil's counterfeit 00:10:16.17\00:10:18.33 to God's tree of life. Amen. And, and so here she 00:10:18.36\00:10:22.67 takes this fruit oh, this is great and she becomes 00:10:22.70\00:10:25.41 the first drug dealer, she runs to her husband, 00:10:25.44\00:10:27.69 she grabs up this fruit. She runs to her husband 00:10:27.72\00:10:29.82 and says, here honey try this, it's wonderful well 00:10:29.85\00:10:33.38 Adam's countenance you know I can imagine drops 00:10:33.41\00:10:35.68 because he knew immediately what had happened? 00:10:35.71\00:10:38.27 He is just sick about it but then he thinks God says 00:10:39.63\00:10:42.56 in the day we take of this fruit we will die and I don't 00:10:42.59\00:10:45.56 wanna lose Eve she is my partner. 00:10:45.59\00:10:47.47 Surely God can never ever replace her and so he 00:10:48.25\00:10:51.63 takes over the fruit and all of a sudden at that moment 00:10:51.66\00:10:54.48 even while the juice is dripping on his lips he feels 00:10:54.51\00:10:58.77 funny and they look at one and another and you know 00:10:58.80\00:11:01.86 the story, Shelley they're, we're naked they had 00:11:01.89\00:11:05.32 never seen nakedness because they had their own 00:11:05.35\00:11:07.23 righteousness before that and all of a sudden 00:11:07.26\00:11:09.86 they're starting to feel cold and something 00:11:09.89\00:11:12.04 is feeling funny, you see in that moment they really 00:11:12.07\00:11:13.95 did started dying just as God said that they would. 00:11:13.98\00:11:17.51 But now the wonderful things is, 00:11:17.54\00:11:19.53 God just didn't leave them in that situation. 00:11:19.56\00:11:22.82 You know God wandered in the cool of the afternoon 00:11:22.85\00:11:26.58 he said Adam and Eve where are you? 00:11:26.61\00:11:28.25 Where are you? He knew exactly where they were, 00:11:28.28\00:11:32.19 he's God, but he wanted them to respond to him 00:11:32.22\00:11:35.42 and finally they come out of the bushes and 00:11:35.45\00:11:38.25 they've got these fig leaves that they've sewn up 00:11:38.28\00:11:40.15 their own little aprons to cover their own nakedness, 00:11:40.18\00:11:42.69 their own "righteousness" and they said Lord, 00:11:42.72\00:11:47.31 here we are. Adam and Eve what have you done? 00:11:47.34\00:11:50.13 Lord, it's the woman you made, 00:11:50.16\00:11:52.76 it's the woman you made, God it's all your fault 00:11:53.63\00:11:55.57 and notice all of a sudden here's that communication 00:11:55.60\00:11:58.03 gap, the devil was successful right there in breaking 00:11:58.06\00:12:01.39 the communion with God. God had wandered with him 00:12:01.42\00:12:04.90 and walked with him in the garden in the cool 00:12:04.93\00:12:07.08 of the day talk with him. It was such a wonderful 00:12:07.11\00:12:10.55 experience and now all of a sudden you're attiring God, 00:12:10.58\00:12:13.48 if you had made this serpent and this woman because 00:12:13.51\00:12:16.56 then he looks to Eve and he says it is the serpent 00:12:16.59\00:12:18.77 you know that you made. This blame game goes 00:12:18.80\00:12:22.35 back and forth. And you know when you think 00:12:22.38\00:12:24.49 about it a thought occurred to me that it actually 00:12:24.52\00:12:28.60 that communication broke the minute here they are 00:12:28.63\00:12:32.20 clothe with the light of God and they didn't recognized 00:12:32.23\00:12:36.40 their nakedness, but once they recognized 00:12:36.43\00:12:39.18 their own nakedness and tried to make themselves 00:12:39.21\00:12:43.71 righteous on their own, which sometimes 00:12:43.74\00:12:45.82 we try so hard to do. In own righteousness 00:12:45.85\00:12:49.11 we can't stand before the Lord. 00:12:49.14\00:12:50.49 So, here comes their loving God and they're already 00:12:50.52\00:12:54.55 hiding from him and he has to seek them out 00:12:54.58\00:12:58.24 and don't we do that sometimes when God just like 00:12:58.27\00:13:01.13 what you say how God approached you over 00:13:01.16\00:13:04.04 and over again and you were kind of hiding from God 00:13:04.07\00:13:07.61 so then even when they stepped up to the plate 00:13:07.64\00:13:10.52 all of a sudden the communication 00:13:10.55\00:13:12.30 is not only broken but now you see that it's fractured 00:13:12.33\00:13:18.21 because now they began to accuse God 00:13:18.24\00:13:21.42 of doing wrong just as Satan did. 00:13:21.45\00:13:23.46 Yeah, yep, It was a terrible situation and at that 00:13:24.51\00:13:27.15 moment the devil thought aha, I've got them now 00:13:27.18\00:13:30.92 I am gonna yell to the whole universe you see 00:13:30.95\00:13:33.13 God's gonna have to destroy them because they did one 00:13:33.94\00:13:35.81 little thing, but then all of a sudden something 00:13:35.84\00:13:38.49 really strange happens Jesus I believe called two little 00:13:38.52\00:13:42.47 lambs over there, that were grazing near by 00:13:42.50\00:13:44.20 and he took a knife and he slit their throats 00:13:44.23\00:13:47.18 and he says Adam and Eve, this is death, 00:13:47.21\00:13:49.53 this is what you deserve and then he did something 00:13:49.56\00:13:53.79 else strangely. He, he, he, he is doing something all 00:13:53.82\00:13:56.53 of a sudden he clothe them with this, 00:13:56.56\00:13:59.53 with these garments the skins of the lambs 00:13:59.56\00:14:02.02 and he says Adam and Eve one day in the history 00:14:02.05\00:14:04.68 of man I will come and I will die, just 00:14:04.71\00:14:06.90 as these little lambs have died, I'll earn the right 00:14:07.86\00:14:11.64 to give you this righteous covering that I've given 00:14:11.67\00:14:14.13 you and then he does something even more 00:14:15.32\00:14:16.70 strange that the devil can't quite understanding 00:14:16.73\00:14:19.18 what's going on and he says Adam and Eve 00:14:19.21\00:14:21.29 and he looks at the devil I am going to put 00:14:21.32\00:14:23.13 enmity between you, between the woman, 00:14:23.16\00:14:26.10 between your seed and her seed. 00:14:26.13\00:14:27.44 Can you explain enmity because some people 00:14:28.69\00:14:30.17 don't understand that word? Well there in that 00:14:30.20\00:14:32.21 you know for one I looked at this what is this? 00:14:32.24\00:14:34.54 You know when you take magnets that are, 00:14:34.57\00:14:37.56 that are poles are opposites that you try and 00:14:37.59\00:14:39.47 shove them together, as a kid I loved to do that, 00:14:39.50\00:14:41.25 you show one magnet it bounces back you know 00:14:41.28\00:14:43.38 they repel. God says I don't want to only clothe 00:14:43.41\00:14:47.85 you with my righteousness on the outside, 00:14:47.88\00:14:49.76 I am going to come and live via the Holy Spirit 00:14:50.57\00:14:53.83 on the inside so that my righteousness repels evil. 00:14:53.86\00:14:57.84 So enmity then is a kind of a hatred, a repulsion, 00:14:58.58\00:15:02.07 I mean it's something that you, you can't stand 00:15:02.10\00:15:06.04 to be around. So that's what God was saying 00:15:06.07\00:15:09.17 I'll put enmity between you, exactly, and Satan, 00:15:09.20\00:15:12.48 exactly, exactly I will give you the power in your life 00:15:12.51\00:15:14.87 to repel the evil now. You have given away your 00:15:14.90\00:15:18.03 own righteousness, you've given away your own 00:15:18.06\00:15:20.15 power of choice, you've surrendered it to the devil. 00:15:20.18\00:15:23.43 But now I am going to give you the power back I 00:15:24.59\00:15:26.15 will earn right. You see God, God in heaven they 00:15:26.18\00:15:29.71 was a crisis when the devil stood before the universe 00:15:29.74\00:15:32.21 said God's a tyrant. I'd be a better ruler I will do 00:15:32.24\00:15:35.16 this and this and this. Well, they, 00:15:35.19\00:15:37.30 they didn't understand, they've never seen sin 00:15:37.33\00:15:39.29 and the council of God gets together, 00:15:39.32\00:15:42.66 God the father, the son and the Holy Spirit 00:15:42.69\00:15:44.58 and they come up with a plan, we're going to nail 00:15:44.61\00:15:47.19 two pieces of wood together, the son of God is 00:15:47.22\00:15:49.81 going to hang on it. I mean you say all that's so 00:15:49.84\00:15:52.81 simplistic, it is so simple a child can understand it, 00:15:52.84\00:15:56.23 but if so in death that we'll study it for all eternally, 00:15:57.26\00:15:59.70 isn't that truth, and, and so Jesus came in order 00:15:59.73\00:16:03.16 to die for men and women. He laid out that plan 00:16:03.19\00:16:05.57 to restore communication right there in the garden 00:16:05.60\00:16:09.16 of Eden. In the Revelation 13:8, yeah, 00:16:09.19\00:16:11.14 that he was the lamb slain before the foundation 00:16:11.17\00:16:14.23 of the world. I remember when I was about 00:16:14.26\00:16:16.70 19 years old and doing a, a very deep Bible study 00:16:16.73\00:16:20.02 and I don't know why but it was like for the first 00:16:20.94\00:16:24.46 time I wanted to know what they wear clothed 00:16:24.49\00:16:26.39 with and I had looked at how God lived in 00:16:26.42\00:16:29.24 unapproachable light and realized that the Psalm says 00:16:29.27\00:16:32.91 that he is covered with this robe of light and I 00:16:32.94\00:16:36.89 thought I bet that's what was on Adam and Eve 00:16:36.92\00:16:39.01 and then as I've realized that they had lost this, 00:16:39.04\00:16:43.72 it was the first time in my life that I realized 00:16:43.75\00:16:47.43 that was the first sin offering was when God made 00:16:47.65\00:16:50.82 for them these lamb skin coverings and it, 00:16:50.85\00:16:54.92 and I thought where did that come from? 00:16:54.95\00:16:57.03 God had to have killed a lamb. So I believe as your 00:16:57.06\00:17:01.22 describing, you know it dawned on me that from 00:17:01.25\00:17:04.90 the very beginning they knew, God shared the plan 00:17:04.93\00:17:08.35 of salvation with them. As he went through these 00:17:08.38\00:17:11.84 things and explained it to them that Adam and Eve 00:17:11.87\00:17:14.96 and therefore Cain and Abel were also taught, 00:17:15.92\00:17:18.29 exactly. What was acceptable to God is 00:17:18.32\00:17:21.12 a sacrifice and that, yes, God's got this plan 00:17:21.15\00:17:25.60 of salvation. So, it's an incredible thought that God 00:17:25.63\00:17:30.09 to restore communication had to promise to die 00:17:30.12\00:17:34.72 for us so that we could stand before a Holy God 00:17:34.75\00:17:38.57 not in our own righteousness, but covered 00:17:38.60\00:17:40.81 with his robe of righteousness. 00:17:40.84\00:17:43.66 Exactly, now this, this sacrificial system that 00:17:43.69\00:17:45.92 you're talking about, this was all designed 00:17:45.95\00:17:48.24 to bring their focus back to God, to turn their eyes 00:17:48.27\00:17:52.41 once again upon God because they had focused on, 00:17:52.44\00:17:56.01 on the serpent, they had focused on the serpent, 00:17:56.04\00:17:58.58 so now it's, it's to bring them back and we kind 00:17:58.61\00:18:01.15 of fast forward through the Bible of violin and God 00:18:01.18\00:18:05.36 had chosen the people, the Israelites and through 00:18:05.39\00:18:09.23 Abraham he had said I am going to, 00:18:09.26\00:18:10.80 I am going to make you a great nation of people 00:18:10.83\00:18:13.80 and sure enough he had a tremendous nation of people 00:18:13.83\00:18:17.32 and he gave a prophecy and he said in 00:18:17.35\00:18:18.91 four hundred years they're going to be in bondage, 00:18:18.94\00:18:21.28 but I am going to deliver them. Now, 00:18:21.31\00:18:24.42 we know that story and it all took place in Egypt 00:18:24.45\00:18:27.77 and they ended up in bondage in Egypt 00:18:27.80\00:18:30.32 and we look at that, they ended up in sin in Egypt, 00:18:30.35\00:18:32.89 yes, and God brought them out, 00:18:32.92\00:18:35.00 God brought them out of that land under his power 00:18:35.03\00:18:38.91 by his might. They didn't do anything on their 00:18:38.94\00:18:41.80 own except follow the instruction of God look 00:18:41.83\00:18:44.73 to that sacrifice and God brought them out in this 00:18:44.76\00:18:49.00 journey and all of a sudden as they're on this journey, 00:18:49.03\00:18:51.25 they get up to the Red sea and here's the whole 00:18:51.28\00:18:53.92 army of Pharaoh behind them and then they said, 00:18:53.95\00:18:56.36 why did we ever come out here, 00:18:56.39\00:18:57.81 why did we ever start this journey, 00:18:57.84\00:18:59.46 why did we trust God, yeah, why did we ever 00:18:59.49\00:19:01.52 trust this God, you know, now they've been slaves 00:19:01.55\00:19:03.82 for a long time, they've totally taken their eyes 00:19:03.85\00:19:06.21 off of God and so now it begins a process of training 00:19:06.24\00:19:09.76 them, how to look back to God again and God says 00:19:09.79\00:19:13.46 hey go forward, you know, why are you standing 00:19:13.49\00:19:16.42 here, go forward now and an interesting thing 00:19:16.45\00:19:19.33 is right there, he brought down a cloud in a pillar 00:19:19.36\00:19:23.06 of fire. That enmity that separation between the evils 00:19:23.09\00:19:28.32 of Pharaoh's armies in the separation to protect 00:19:28.35\00:19:31.38 his children and then he parts the seas for them 00:19:31.41\00:19:34.82 and they go through on dry ground and you read 00:19:34.85\00:19:37.14 in Exodus15 this incredible song of victory, 00:19:37.17\00:19:41.60 incredible of song of victory, God has done this, 00:19:41.63\00:19:44.25 and God has done this and God has done all these 00:19:44.28\00:19:46.50 things and it's interesting Shelley, 00:19:46.53\00:19:48.94 go all the way through to Revelation 15 00:19:48.97\00:19:51.31 and again a song of victory that virtually the same 00:19:51.34\00:19:55.81 song that the children of Israel sang, 00:19:55.84\00:19:58.92 a song of deliverance out of sin and bondage. 00:19:58.95\00:20:01.15 But this time it's God's people, 00:20:01.18\00:20:03.29 all of us standing on the sea of glass. 00:20:03.32\00:20:06.18 However we gain the victory? It's through God 00:20:07.18\00:20:08.94 by keeping our eyes upon God. But you know 00:20:08.97\00:20:11.67 there is a, there is a sad moment in there because 00:20:11.70\00:20:14.42 we go to Numbers chapter 13 and in Numbers 00:20:14.45\00:20:18.33 chapter 13 God wanted take now his children 00:20:18.36\00:20:21.37 to the Canaan land. He wanted to get them to the 00:20:21.40\00:20:24.37 Canaan land and he says look it's a land flowing 00:20:24.40\00:20:27.45 with milk and honey. It's a, it's a wonderful land. 00:20:27.48\00:20:30.20 Well they, they were just maybe doubtful a little 00:20:31.19\00:20:33.25 and they said lets send in spies and check it out, 00:20:33.28\00:20:35.79 lets just check it out. Well, they went in for 00:20:35.82\00:20:38.46 forty days and they came back and you know 00:20:38.49\00:20:40.77 at the camp, they look and say, look, look, 00:20:40.80\00:20:42.42 look over there, look at that. 00:20:42.45\00:20:43.53 What, what's happening and all of a sudden 00:20:43.56\00:20:45.99 they see these two guys bearing one cluster 00:20:46.02\00:20:49.95 of grapes on a great big stick, can you imagine 00:20:49.98\00:20:53.02 one cluster of grapes. I picture that as kind 00:20:53.05\00:20:55.51 of like in heaven you know hey come on over 00:20:55.54\00:20:57.60 Shelley over to my house we'll split a grape 00:20:57.63\00:20:59.24 for lunch. Yeah. You know, big grapes, 00:20:59.27\00:21:01.40 huge grapes, and here they were, 00:21:01.43\00:21:04.99 they all get back I mean the evidence they say yes 00:21:05.02\00:21:07.91 God everything you said is true it's absolutely true. 00:21:07.94\00:21:10.14 It's is a land flowing with milk and honey. 00:21:10.17\00:21:13.62 But then all of a sudden you know the sad story, 00:21:14.82\00:21:17.04 absolutely, all of them say but the that, 00:21:17.07\00:21:20.38 that's is the worst word in the whole Bible 00:21:20.41\00:21:22.24 and they said but was nevertheless they were 00:21:22.27\00:21:24.56 giants in the land. We've seen them with our own 00:21:24.59\00:21:27.79 eyes and in our own sight. We are like 00:21:27.82\00:21:30.54 grasshoppers. So this is that grasshopper 00:21:30.57\00:21:34.96 identity syndrome that so many of us have, 00:21:34.99\00:21:37.05 I've never heard it said like that but yes. 00:21:37.08\00:21:39.16 We don't recognize who we are in Christ, 00:21:39.19\00:21:42.53 but we're getting down, I can't believe how 00:21:42.56\00:21:45.32 quickly this is, is escaping us our time. 00:21:45.35\00:21:48.07 When, when they, God is trying to restore 00:21:48.10\00:21:53.55 communication to them, he is trying to get them 00:21:53.58\00:21:56.65 to trust him. What do you suggest we started 00:21:56.68\00:22:00.15 this program with John 17:3, That Jesus, 00:22:00.18\00:22:03.98 God said Jesus here to really restore us if you will 00:22:04.01\00:22:08.75 and to see that we might really see who he is. 00:22:08.78\00:22:13.46 As Hebrews 1:3 says he's the exact representation 00:22:13.49\00:22:16.65 of the Father. And Jesus is saying this is eternal 00:22:16.68\00:22:20.45 life that you may know that know him the only true 00:22:20.48\00:22:24.06 God and the one who him sent. What, what, 00:22:24.09\00:22:28.19 what is your response or what is your suggestion 00:22:28.22\00:22:33.84 to our viewers. How to restore communication 00:22:33.87\00:22:37.17 with God? Well like the song says turn your 00:22:37.20\00:22:39.86 eyes upon Jesus and all of the things of this world 00:22:39.89\00:22:42.54 would grow strangely dim, in the light of his glory 00:22:42.57\00:22:45.94 and grace, there the children of Israel 00:22:45.97\00:22:48.24 at the borders of Canaan land look to themselves, 00:22:48.27\00:22:51.52 but you go to Joshua chapter 3 00:22:51.55\00:22:53.77 and here's is a lady who was a prostitute of a 00:22:53.80\00:22:56.51 heathen land and she began sharing her story, 00:22:56.54\00:22:59.98 we saw what your God did, he parted the seas. 00:23:00.01\00:23:02.83 We saw what your God did, he destroyed the 00:23:03.49\00:23:05.66 heathen Kings. So, remember what God 00:23:05.69\00:23:07.44 has done in the past, so, it is one way of looking. 00:23:07.47\00:23:09.77 So, so, always look to God, okay, now the, 00:23:09.80\00:23:12.96 the texture quoted, this is life eternally 00:23:12.99\00:23:15.27 that they might know thee. Yes. 00:23:15.30\00:23:17.26 Well, this know with Adam and Eve they knew one 00:23:17.29\00:23:20.28 and another and they conceived a children, 00:23:20.31\00:23:21.93 very inmate, very personal, you've got to, 00:23:21.96\00:23:24.93 you've got to get to know this God, look to him, 00:23:24.96\00:23:27.95 turn your eyes on him. Not on the giants, 00:23:27.98\00:23:29.71 not on all the giants out there because there 00:23:29.74\00:23:31.94 are giants everywhere and the devil is trying 00:23:31.97\00:23:34.22 to destroy us continually, there is real devil, 00:23:34.25\00:23:36.57 there is real evil angels and there is a real God 00:23:36.60\00:23:40.14 and powerful God who loves us who died for us, 00:23:40.17\00:23:43.27 to us the power to overcome, you know, 00:23:43.30\00:23:46.43 Revelation chapter 2 and 3: looks God says for over 00:23:46.46\00:23:50.92 comers to him that overcomes, 00:23:50.95\00:23:52.40 I will give the right to sit with me on my thrown. 00:23:53.09\00:23:56.01 Can you imagine, God wants to provide us 00:23:56.04\00:23:58.83 with his power, with his strength to overcome 00:23:58.86\00:24:02.35 the viles of the devil and as we go along in our 00:24:02.38\00:24:05.60 daily walk, how do we do it, we've got to spend 00:24:05.63\00:24:09.26 time in his word. Because I've heard you talk 00:24:09.29\00:24:10.94 about the logos, you know his word, 00:24:10.97\00:24:13.19 his word is transforming, amen, 00:24:13.22\00:24:15.92 his power is transforming in our lives and unless 00:24:15.95\00:24:19.03 we spend that time on our knees and prayer and study, 00:24:19.06\00:24:21.36 I saw it in my own life when I quit doing that 00:24:21.39\00:24:25.03 even though God had called me and then soon 00:24:25.06\00:24:28.40 I dropped away, you know I got busy with 00:24:28.43\00:24:30.89 all the things of life and I became a businessman 00:24:30.92\00:24:33.69 and I was too important to spend time in study 00:24:33.72\00:24:35.97 and prayer. Well, but, and you were still going 00:24:36.00\00:24:38.41 to church, so there was some little you know, 00:24:38.44\00:24:40.43 sometimes we, we satisfy ourselves by saying 00:24:40.46\00:24:45.54 well I am getting the weekly message or 00:24:45.57\00:24:47.91 I am doing this, and to really know someone 00:24:47.94\00:24:50.78 it'd be like if you were married and you always 00:24:50.81\00:24:53.83 spoke to your wife once a week. 00:24:53.86\00:24:55.98 But you are in the same house and avoiding 00:24:56.01\00:24:58.31 her all the rest of week, what would your 00:24:58.34\00:25:00.15 relationship be, that's right, how many husbands 00:25:00.18\00:25:03.14 can sit, you know husbands, my phone rings 00:25:03.17\00:25:04.14 and I pick up the cell and I say, who is this, 00:25:04.15\00:25:06.96 yes, who is this? Oh honey, it's you how, 00:25:06.99\00:25:11.23 how long would I be married to my wife, 00:25:11.26\00:25:13.16 if didn't recognize the voice of my wife, amen, 00:25:13.19\00:25:15.79 and the Lord says my sheep hear my voice 00:25:15.82\00:25:18.84 and they follow me and we need to learn to listen 00:25:18.87\00:25:22.39 to God's voice and that voice comes to us 00:25:22.42\00:25:25.05 through his word. Yes, exactly. 00:25:25.08\00:25:26.85 Number one way he talks to us is through the word. 00:25:26.88\00:25:29.25 But now the restoration of communication, 00:25:29.28\00:25:33.32 sometimes people will spend time in the word but 00:25:33.35\00:25:37.18 they don't really pay much attention to the prayer 00:25:37.21\00:25:40.52 of life, what would say about that? 00:25:40.55\00:25:41.93 Well, you, you don't have one without the other 00:25:43.33\00:25:45.06 because as you read this is an encounter with 00:25:45.90\00:25:49.78 a God of Universe. His word is a direct encounter, 00:25:49.81\00:25:52.86 he says I am the way, I am the truth, 00:25:52.89\00:25:56.24 I am the life and I am light, I am the bread, 00:25:56.27\00:26:00.11 all these things, God doesn't say come follow me 00:26:00.14\00:26:02.92 and I'll show you where this is, no, 00:26:02.95\00:26:05.29 no he says I am, amen. We send these pages 00:26:05.32\00:26:09.04 as he is the God of the universe, 00:26:09.07\00:26:11.20 desiring to live in our lives to, to clothe, 00:26:11.23\00:26:15.37 to clothe himself with our bodies that he might 00:26:15.40\00:26:20.15 live in our temple, to give us the victory, 00:26:20.36\00:26:22.37 to give us changes, to overcome the problems 00:26:22.40\00:26:25.20 that beset us so easily in this life. 00:26:25.23\00:26:27.33 Yes, you know, it's a, the Lord once spoke to me 00:26:27.36\00:26:31.38 and I'm trying to think, here's how he said it, 00:26:31.41\00:26:33.91 that time is life, how you invest your time is how 00:26:33.94\00:26:38.03 you invest your life and boy, 00:26:38.06\00:26:40.48 sometimes we can invest our lives, 00:26:40.51\00:26:42.60 waste our lives, by, by wasting our time, 00:26:42.63\00:26:47.21 yet you have a saying about time, 00:26:47.24\00:26:49.98 share that with us. Well, we weren't created for time, 00:26:50.01\00:26:52.88 we're created for eternity, amen. 00:26:52.91\00:26:54.84 And we've got to focus on that. 00:26:54.87\00:26:56.43 God, God wants to transform us Romans 00:26:56.46\00:26:58.88 12:2 Be ye therefore transformed by the renewing 00:26:58.91\00:27:02.62 of your mind and God does it all. 00:27:02.65\00:27:04.23 He clothes us with his righteousness just as Adam 00:27:04.26\00:27:06.96 and Eve in the garden. He sends us the Holy Spirit 00:27:06.99\00:27:09.31 when he is invited in, yes, to live in our lives to 00:27:09.34\00:27:13.10 changes and we. live in the blast moments of earth's 00:27:13.13\00:27:16.66 history, Shelley, we don't have time to do things 00:27:16.69\00:27:19.15 that we used to do. Amen, and he does renew 00:27:19.18\00:27:21.92 our mind but when we spend time in the word 00:27:21.95\00:27:24.57 this is the best way to renew our mind, 00:27:24.60\00:27:27.77 and as James says in, amen, James 1:21 and it is, 00:27:27.80\00:27:30.62 that word is planted in our hearts, 00:27:30.65\00:27:32.52 it has the power to save our souls. 00:27:32.55\00:27:33.98 Thank you so much so much for being with us Jim Ayer, 00:27:34.56\00:27:37.50 thank you, oh thank you, and we are so grateful 00:27:37.53\00:27:39.17 to all of you for joining us. 00:27:39.20\00:27:41.07 I pray that if you feel that your communication 00:27:41.10\00:27:45.16 with God is suffering right now, 00:27:45.19\00:27:47.18 just look heavenward and say Lord, 00:27:47.98\00:27:50.17 I want to be able to communicate with you 00:27:50.20\00:27:53.23 on an intimate level, just one and one and God 00:27:53.26\00:27:56.37 will help you restore that, we're so grateful that 00:27:56.40\00:27:59.83 you've joined us and now our prayer is at the grace 00:27:59.86\00:28:03.34 of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of the father 00:28:03.37\00:28:05.81 and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit. 00:28:05.84\00:28:07.57 We'll be with you today and always, see you again. 00:28:08.16\00:28:11.45