Do you have
dreams and aspirations
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that just
sometimes seem impossible.
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Well we believe
that God may be putting
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those in your
heart, and if he is,
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he wants to fulfill
them. Please stay tuned today
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for Issues & Answers, and learn
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a little bit more about this
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Hi, I am Shelley
Quinn, and thank you so much
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for joining us. I
think today is going to be
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really an exciting
day because we are going
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to talking about
dreams, goals and aspirations
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and where they
originate from and why they are
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important to our lives.
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I was reading
once in Luke verse 6,
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chapter 6 in verse
39, where the Bible says
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"For with the measure you use,
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it will be
measured back to you. "
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And suddenly what was
impressed upon my mind
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were these words,
increase the measure
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of your
expectancy, for the measure
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you use will be
measured back to you.
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I believe that
sometimes we put God in a box,
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we're afraid to
pray for anything
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that might be too grand.
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We are afraid to
attempt the things to bear
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the abundant fruit that God says
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that he wants us to
bear because we don't really
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trust ourselves,
and what we need to do
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is quit leaning on ourselves
and start looking to God.
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Here today to talk
to us about this is
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Dr. Janice Browne
and Janice we're so glad
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that you have come
back and be with us.
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Thank you, I am very
happy to be here again.
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Now you have a
masters in clinical psychology
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and in your PhD is
in leadership with a.
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Concentration in psychology.
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A concentration, tell me a
little bit out what a master
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or a PhD in leadership entails.
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Actually it's in
educational leadership,
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and it basically
entails teaching.
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It entails
curriculum development,
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administration, anything
that has to do with school
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from grades one up to college,
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and on to the university level.
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I am of course on
the university level
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even though I teach in
the psychology department.
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So basically it's
just an educational degree
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and also it
deals with consultation
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and developing leaders and
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leadership
skills in individuals.
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Okay, now when you,
your husband and you
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were missionaries for a
number of years in Ethiopia.
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Yes. That's correct,
and when you returned,
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tell me a little bit
about the dream that God
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actually planted in your
heart almost through a seed
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that he planted in
your husband's heart.
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What actually
happened is that I interacted
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with so many
people there in Ethiopia
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being the President's
wife, the constituents,
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the pastors, the pastor's wife.
Your husband was the president
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of the Ethiopian Union.
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Yes, he was and I
found that when I came home
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I met people in America
but they have the same needs
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and I said you
know people are the same
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all over the
world. They have needs,
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they have goals, they
have dreams, they have visions,
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and I started to
conceive a ministry
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that would
involve training leaders,
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that would involve teaching
individuals how to dream,
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helping persons to realize
that they do have dreams,
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and that dreams
are something special
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that have been given to
us by the almighty creator.
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Amen. You know you
wanted to start this program
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and let me go
ahead and do that for you
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with a
scripture from John 15:60,
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and I think that ties in exactly
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with what you are saying.
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Jesus said you
did not choose me,
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but I chose you,
and appointed you
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that you should
go and bear fruit
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and that your
fruit should remain,
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we that whatever you
ask the Father in my name,
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he may give you. Now
Jesus is saying basically
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what you're saying is
that he is calling us.
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He puts something in our
heart, so that we can go out
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and bear fruit. How do
you think all of that works.
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I really believe that
according to that text
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God has called
us, he has chosen us
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and he has anointed
us with the Holy Spirit,
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and once he has called
you whether you recognize
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the call or not, there
is something within you
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that is a strong desire
to either aspire to something
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or to meet a goal that
you have set for yourself
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or something that
you dream of doing,
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you know its
unfortunate that we as adults
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sometimes gets so bogged down.
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We become so jaded
and we become so troubled
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and so busy that we
really forget to use
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our imagination,
our Godly imagination.
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We forget how to
dream and we certainly
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you know don't bother with
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trying to reach certain dreams.
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Now there are people
that dream, they dream big,
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they follow through
with it whether they're young
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or they're old, and then
there are some individuals
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who are afraid to dream.
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They don't know how to dream.
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I was in Zimbabwe
about four weeks ago,
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and I did a session on dreaming,
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I called it the dream session.
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God wants us to
dream the impossible,
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and I remember very
clearly standing before
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about eight hundred women
and I said how many of you
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have a dream and
people raised their hands,
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and I said how many
of you know how to dream,
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and a few raised
their hands, and then I said
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how many of you
don't know how to dream,
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and I was
really surprised at the
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number of hands that went up,
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sometimes dreams have
been snatched from people,
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sometimes they're
so involved in what
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they are doing, they
don't have time for it,
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or sometimes people
think that it's impossible,
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but we know that it's not
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because God has
told us that it's not.
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Well, and there
times that I like what
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you said in the
beginning that sometimes
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God puts something in our
heart and we get his desire,
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not every desire that
we have, not every dream
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we have may be inspired of God,
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and so I would say that one
of the most important things
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to do is to make that
mental check and go and see if
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what you are aspiring
to do, does this line up
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with the principles of
the Bible, would you agree.
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I would totally
agree with that. Okay.
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And I also really
believe that just as we should
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try the Spirits to see
if they are false spirits
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or if they are
really of the Holy Spirit,
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the same is true with dreams,
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and I really believe
that God places dreams
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in our heart, and
he gives us the skills
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and abilities and
the talents to go along
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with those dreams. We
call them talents sometimes.
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Things that you
just naturally do.
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I don't know about
you as a little girl,
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but I can almost, I
almost have a thought that you
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were a little
girl you liked to talk,
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you probably liked to
talk in front of people,
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you probably have
the gift of speech,
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and God knew that, so
he eventually put the dream
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in your heart, it
was there all the time,
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but he opened it like a flower,
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and he brought
you to the point where
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you are living your dream,
you are speaking to millions
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all over the world, and
not just speaking to them,
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but you are talking
to them about God. Amen.
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You are talking
to them about things
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that are
important to them and things
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that are important to God.
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I know that when God called me
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to full time ministry, I thought
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well who wants to
listen to me, what would I say,
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but the one that really
sticks in my mind right now
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is your, comes to the
forth front of my mind is that
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many times people would tell me,
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I can't tell you
how often people told me
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you need to write a
book, you need to write a book,
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and I made the
comment frequently,
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I'll never write a book
unless its for the glory
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of God. well what did
I have to say I thought
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and when I remember
when I was writing Exalting
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His Word, my first book
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that as I was coming
to the final chapter,
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I thought Lord
what do you want to put
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in this final chapter,
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and I was writing
this final chapter suddenly
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I remembered the Lord
reminded me you said that
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you would never
write a book unless
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it was for my glory,
and now child is the time.
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And I, it hadn't
even occurred to me,
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hadn't dawned on me, and
I realized that sometimes
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we say things and
we don't even realized,
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I mean I wouldn't say it
was my dream to write a book
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for God. I just,
he gave me a talent,
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and I just simply said I
won't write a book unless
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it's for God's glory.
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And then God took
that simple little sentence
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as if to say okay
I'll give a mandate,
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this is the desire in
your heart, 'cause somewhere
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in there must have been,
and he gave me the mandate
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to write a book for his glory.
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So that's amazing, yeah.
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And then a
couple of points there
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I would like to
point out sometimes
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we don't even
realize what the dream is
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and we will just inevitably
say it or say something out
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loud and I am a
firm believer that words
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of course fitly spoken
are like apples of gold
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and peaches of silver.
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We also know that words
can hurt, words can bless,
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words can kill, and we
know that when you put words out
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there in the universe,
and really that's Gods ears,
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he hears those,
but they not really
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come from inside of
us, they are there already,
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and he prompts us
to respond by saying
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those words. So you know
as one things in their heart
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so are they when you say
things if you say I can do it,
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you know you will
eventually began to do it,
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and you will put yourself
in a position to fulfill that.
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If you tell yourself
that you can't I wish I could,
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but I really can't, then
you're limiting yourself.
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God knew that he
wanted you to write
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a book to his glory. Yes.
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And so he had you to
say I'll never do it unless
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I do it to his glory.
That's what he needed to hear,
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and then when the
appropriate time came
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he reminded you, my child. Yes.
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This is a dream you
didn't even know you had.
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You have done it
now, and you wanted to do
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it to my glory, and here
it is, and it's to his glory.
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And I do
believe there are times,
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you know a lot of
people are afraid to pray,
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and ask God's for
God's will in their life,
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because they are afraid that
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he is going to
put them in Ethiopia.
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And maybe they
don't want to be called,
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you know we talked about
you recall you were chosen,
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you didn't
choose me, I chose you.
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Are there times do you
believe that you've said
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that sometimes
there is a dream in it,
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it's a strong desire
in our heart, sometimes
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I think maybe, I
don't know how to
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articulate this
Janice. I believe sometimes
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that there is
something out there
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and it's not a strong desire,
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I will give you an
example when your husband told
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you just a few days
after you married that
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God has impressed upon
his mind that you were to have
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a speaking and
teaching ministry,
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and you were like no,
no, no, I am a singer,
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I am singer. So
that was God's dream
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he put it first in
your husband's heart
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because he knew, I
mean that was God's dream
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for you, his plan for
you, but you had to accept
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the seed for the
dream through your husband,
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would you agree. I would agree,
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sometimes he does
send people to us,
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and just as you said
people used to come to you
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and says oh you
need to write a book.
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You know God sends
affirmation and confirmation
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through other human
beings, and when my husband
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said that it was
very difficult to accept
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not because I didn't
love God, not because I didn't
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want to do it but I
never thought of myself.
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I teach in a classroom,
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I teach college and
university students,
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but to stand before
people, and to actually expound
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and talk about the
word of God, to preach
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and to teach wasn't something
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that even I even
thought I had the ability to do,
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but once when
my husband said it,
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the Lord began to put me
in places where that talent,
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those gifts would come forward.
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And speaking of
dreams let me tell you,
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you know God really does
have a plan for all of us.
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Amen. And speaking of Ethiopia,
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when I was sixteen
years old, I had a dream,
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I really did. We had
our sixteenth birthday party
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for me and in our
family there were six children,
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mom and dad, and
every sixteenth birthday
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we would all come
together with just the family
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and not invite any
friends, and we were supposed
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to tell our
parents about our dreams,
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and aspirations,
and goals were for us.
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And I said to my
parents when my time came
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I said and I am the
oldest, so it's number one.
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They said what are
your dreams Janice,
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and I said I want
to be a missionary.
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But listen to this I
forgot that I even said that.
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Over twenty years
later we get a call
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from the General
Conference inviting us to go,
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and it was on New Year's night,
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and I was
speaking with my father
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back in the day
talking, and for some reason
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I decide to go and see
who was calling may be it
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was another holiday
call, and my husband said,
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they're calling us to Ethiopia,
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I jumped up and I
scream, yes, yes, yes, let's go,
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and he is very calm and he says
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I think that
means we'll be going.
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I could not believe
it, my sister when we told
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the family, she said
Janice don't you remember
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at the age of sixteen
at your birthday party
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you said you
want to be missionary.
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So sometimes we have
dreams and we forget all
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about them, but
God doesn't forget,
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and they may
not happen overnight
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but they eventually happen
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and they do take
place in our lives.
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You know I think
some people are afraid
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of the word
dreams because sometimes
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it has a negative
connotation like you know
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many a child has been probably
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told you're
nothing but a dreamer,
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you will never
amount to anything,
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and we are afraid that
we are putting our desires,
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how can I say this on the Lord.
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In other words in that scripture
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from Psalms 37
verse 4 it's so misused
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about delight yourself
in the Lord and he will,
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what's misused is the
'the' part where he says
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he will give you the
desires of your heart,
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and some people think that well
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I want to dream that I am going
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to have this huge mansion,
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and I am going to be the
top social life in the city
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or whatever. But the
scripture actually says
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delight yourself in the Lord,
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then he will give you
the desires of your heart.
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I believe as we
delight ourselves in God,
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as we, his will becomes
our will and his thoughts
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and purposes becomes
our thoughts and purposes,
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that is the safe position
from which to spring board
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or segued into a
dream if you will,
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that you can, a dream
can be birth in a heart,
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a dream that you can be
confident in can be birth
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in our heart who
is delighting itself
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in the Lord, right.
I would agree with that
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wholeheartedly because if
you're delighting in the Lord,
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truly delighting
in him, then you have
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a relationship with
him, and when you have
00:16:18.50\00:16:20.94
a relationship with him,
he is able to talk to you,
00:16:20.97\00:16:23.35
he is able to guide you, he
is able to put you in places
00:16:23.38\00:16:26.62
and on paths
where he want you to be,
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if you are
delighting yourself in him.
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I believe that word
delighting means not only
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just talking to him but
being excited about him.
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Amen. You know and
just being so ready to hear
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what he has to say
and how he has to say
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it to you that that's delight,
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and then he puts
something in you,
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and I say that's
a calling. Exactly.
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A dream is a calling.
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You know who
Pastor John Carter is and
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he most of our viewers
are quite familiar with him.
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He has a number
of programs on 3ABN,
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but the Lord called
him obviously to be an
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evangelist and when I
was mentioning earlier
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at the beginning of
the program that sometimes
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we put God in a
box, we're afraid to ask
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for something too much.
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Well some people if you
call to be an evangelist
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they might say oh
Lord let me have a
00:17:20.68\00:17:23.21
successful campaign in
Los Angeles, or in Chicago,
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or in New York, or
let me do this for that,
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but what John Carter,
and I love this about him
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when he prayed his
Lord give me Russia,
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not give me
Nizhny Novgorod, Russia,
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but give me Russia,
and the Lord used him,
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I mean he put that and I know
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that was calling of
God on John Carter's life.
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He put that dream in
his heart, he gave him,
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he burst in him that
excitement, that enthusiasm.
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God within, and he
gave him that desire
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to evangelize Russia,
and God used him to begin
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a huge work in Russia.
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And to me that's why you know
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that's what I used
to, I wouldn't say give me
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Coleman, Texas, I would
say give me the world Lord.
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And God put me in a place where
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I can speak unto the
world, that's amazing.
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Isn't God awesome. Yes he is.
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And he knows what kind
of dreams to put in us,
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and he equips us, and
you always hear the statement
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and I've heard it
before it says he doesn't call
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the equipped. He
equips the called.
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There you go,
and sometimes people
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I think refuse to
dream or don't dream
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because they are
afraid that they can't meet up
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to a standard, or
they won't be able to do
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what it is that they feel that
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they have been called to do.
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But God isn't
concerned with that,
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his only concern is that
we delight ourselves in him
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and as you said
earlier that we just be open
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that we are
flexible that we are willing,
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and we just allow the
Holy Spirit to work within us.
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Whatever it is that
God has called you to do,
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he will give the
ability to do it.
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He would put people in places
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that will allow you to do it.
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He will actually speak to
you in the midnight hours,
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or the way he does to me in
the morning about 3 O'clock.
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So I keep this pad
and pencil beside the bed
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and as he gives me the
ideas, I write them down,
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and I fall back to
sleep and I wake up and go
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oh how beautiful, and I
know that comes from God.
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Amen, amen. It's a good
thing that you write it down
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because if you don't sometimes
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he's done with me, and
I think oh I will never
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forget that, and
you wake up and think
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oh I know there
is something special.
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I've done too. You
know when you were talking
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about he will give
a vision in the night
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and how he equips
the called, not calls
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the equipped, it makes me think
00:19:58.58\00:20:00.39
about our founder
of 3ABN Danny Shelton,
00:20:00.42\00:20:03.63
because here is a man
with a high school education,
00:20:03.66\00:20:06.68
a contractor, a
builder, who knows nothing
00:20:07.96\00:20:11.87
about media, and when God
called him to build a network,
00:20:11.90\00:20:17.98
a television network,
that would reach the world
00:20:18.40\00:20:21.88
with the undiluted truth
of the Three Angels message,
00:20:21.91\00:20:26.21
a message that would
counteract the counterfeit.
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He didn't even know, I
mean he had no idea that
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God put that dream into
his heart and he went out
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with just what he had
in hand which was less than
00:20:36.74\00:20:39.20
two hundred
dollars, and he just began
00:20:39.23\00:20:40.74
and God met him
every step of the way
00:20:40.77\00:20:44.35
as he exercised his
faith, and I believe that.
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I know the Bible tells us that,
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God has the Holy Spirit gives us
00:20:49.91\00:20:51.88
each a measure of faith,
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but I believe that God
gave him that Holy Spirit
00:20:53.17\00:20:59.29
gift of faith,
it's one of the gifts,
00:20:59.32\00:21:01.81
you know it's a
manifestation of faith
00:21:01.84\00:21:04.44
that is greater
than most people have.
00:21:04.47\00:21:07.09
That has to something special
00:21:07.12\00:21:08.90
anointing of the Holy
Spirit. So dreaming is,
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being a dreamer
is okay in your mind.
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Almost definitely,
remember Joseph. Yes.
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Joseph was a dreamer, of course
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he was a you know
pretty verbose about his dreams
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and of course when
people hear you say
00:21:23.12\00:21:25.91
and you were bowing down to me,
00:21:25.94\00:21:27.62
individuals
don't really like that,
00:21:27.65\00:21:30.25
that happened within his family,
00:21:30.28\00:21:31.53
but Joseph continued to dream,
00:21:31.90\00:21:35.02
and he continued
to share his dreams.
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Now sometimes
when you have dreams
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Satan is standing right
there to crush that dream
00:21:40.87\00:21:44.83
and you can't always
tell others about your dream.
00:21:44.86\00:21:48.90
I called them dream crushers.
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They're standing
there waiting to crush
00:21:51.89\00:21:54.39
your dream. Suppose the
man that made the cell phone
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and big clunky phones
that we used to have in cars
00:21:58.30\00:22:01.80
had not dreamed and
gone on and done it,
00:22:01.83\00:22:04.63
we wouldn't have
a cell phone today.
00:22:04.66\00:22:06.79
Suppose Thomas Edison
had allowed someone to crush
00:22:06.82\00:22:10.89
his dream, it would
not have occurred or God
00:22:10.92\00:22:13.96
would have given
it to someone else.
00:22:13.99\00:22:15.53
But you know going
back to the Bible Joseph
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was a dreamer and
Joseph eventually lived out
00:22:17.72\00:22:22.55
his dream. And
the thing about God
00:22:22.58\00:22:25.89
that I love so much is
that he gives us the impossible,
00:22:25.92\00:22:31.01
and he makes it
possible because he is a God
00:22:31.04\00:22:34.85
of possibilities,and he is
the God of impossibilities.
00:22:34.88\00:22:39.79
He can make those
things that we think are just
00:22:39.82\00:22:42.11
absolutely outrageous come true,
00:22:42.14\00:22:44.53
and that's what
he did for Joseph.
00:22:44.56\00:22:47.14
Joseph was a dreamer,
its okay to dream; in fact
00:22:47.17\00:22:50.18
it is good to dream.
00:22:50.21\00:22:52.04
Now I don't mean
daydreaming idly,
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sitting and thinking about
things that are not positive,
00:22:54.06\00:22:56.65
things that are not spiritual,
00:22:56.68\00:22:57.94
things that are not
healthy, things that
00:22:57.97\00:22:59.86
will not help you to grow.
00:22:59.89\00:23:01.25
We are not
talking about dreaming
00:23:01.28\00:23:02.26
about winning the lottery.
00:23:02.29\00:23:03.40
No, we are not. We are
talking about delighting
00:23:03.43\00:23:07.40
ourselves in the Lord.
00:23:07.43\00:23:08.40
We are talking
about allowing God
00:23:08.41\00:23:09.94
to use our gifts, our
abilities, our talents,
00:23:09.97\00:23:12.41
whatever they may to serve
others, to serve the world,
00:23:12.44\00:23:17.32
to enjoy life, to
have abundant life.
00:23:17.35\00:23:20.46
God wants the
best for us, and dreams
00:23:20.49\00:23:22.92
aren't always
something that are,
00:23:22.95\00:23:24.47
something that's frightening.
00:23:24.50\00:23:26.95
Some people are
frightened by their dreams,
00:23:26.98\00:23:29.33
but sometimes God just
puts dreams in our hearts
00:23:29.36\00:23:31.77
to do things we love to do.
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I want to clarify
because you said some people
00:23:33.67\00:23:36.05
are frightened by the dreams.
00:23:36.08\00:23:37.07
We are not
necessarily talking about
00:23:37.10\00:23:38.57
the type of dream that you might
00:23:38.60\00:23:40.71
receive in the middle of
the night, although the Lord
00:23:40.74\00:23:42.80
says this will
happen in the end times
00:23:42.83\00:23:46.09
that he will give these dreams.
00:23:46.12\00:23:47.40
We are talking
about a desire that
00:23:47.43\00:23:49.73
God can plant
deep in your heart,
00:23:49.76\00:23:51.66
and it can be, I mean if
suddenly you are desiring
00:23:51.69\00:23:56.15
something that
seems beyond your reach
00:23:56.18\00:23:59.07
it can be very daunting,
00:23:59.10\00:24:00.53
but its something
that my advice would be see
00:24:00.56\00:24:04.98
if you agree with this.
If someone were asking me
00:24:05.01\00:24:08.06
about is it dangerous to dream,
00:24:08.09\00:24:09.93
and I think sometimes it
is, there is certain type
00:24:11.15\00:24:14.24
of dreaming that is
dangerous where people
00:24:14.27\00:24:16.99
just will not submit
and commit their lives
00:24:17.02\00:24:21.45
to the Lord, but if they
are, if somebody asked me
00:24:21.48\00:24:25.75
if it was dangerous to dream.
00:24:25.78\00:24:27.48
I think what I would
say is not as long as
00:24:27.51\00:24:29.82
you are taking this
dreams before the Lord
00:24:29.85\00:24:32.03
and asking Lord is
it from you, because
00:24:32.06\00:24:34.25
if it's from God,
you know even the Lord
00:24:34.28\00:24:37.70
may make you a very
successful businessman
00:24:37.73\00:24:40.09
and his purpose may be,
so that you can fund things
00:24:40.12\00:24:43.34
that happening. You may not
be called to be a missionary
00:24:43.37\00:24:46.91
or an
evangelist, but he may have
00:24:46.94\00:24:49.05
you be a very successful,
00:24:49.08\00:24:50.91
give you very
successful business ideas.
00:24:50.94\00:24:53.05
So that you can fund the
work in his harvest field.
00:24:53.08\00:24:56.37
And I really do
believe that for every original
00:24:56.86\00:25:00.57
there is a counterfeit,
and sometimes our dreams
00:25:00.60\00:25:04.36
are real and they come from God,
00:25:04.39\00:25:06.76
and then there is a
counterfeit from Satan
00:25:06.79\00:25:09.34
that might be
right there as well,
00:25:09.37\00:25:11.92
or if we as we said
earlier don't delight ourselves
00:25:11.95\00:25:15.88
in the Lord. We might get
that dream and corrupt it.
00:25:15.91\00:25:19.20
That God dreams for you
to be a great businesswoman
00:25:19.23\00:25:24.45
or a great man, and
of course he gives you
00:25:24.48\00:25:28.64
that dream, he
gives you that desire,
00:25:28.67\00:25:30.50
he gives you that opportunity,
00:25:30.53\00:25:31.91
but then you don't use it
to help others to do anything
00:25:31.94\00:25:36.92
that is a benefit
other than for yourself
00:25:36.95\00:25:39.36
or your family, then I think
00:25:39.39\00:25:41.25
that Satan is
properly corrupting that dream.
00:25:41.28\00:25:43.97
For example somebody is
given an incredible music
00:25:44.00\00:25:48.70
talent, and they had
this gift of having a life
00:25:48.73\00:25:54.83
you in music ministry perhaps,
00:25:54.86\00:25:57.86
and then they end up
corrupting the talent,
00:25:57.89\00:26:00.74
the gift, and
using it to serve in the
00:26:00.77\00:26:06.13
carnal industry.
So there's times that
00:26:06.16\00:26:08.95
how would you as a
parent if you were talking
00:26:08.98\00:26:12.90
to parents out there.
00:26:12.93\00:26:14.01
How would you guide a child
00:26:14.04\00:26:15.34
that you're trying
to explain the benefits
00:26:15.37\00:26:19.16
and the dangers of dreaming.
00:26:19.19\00:26:21.04
Well first of all I think first
00:26:21.49\00:26:23.18
and foremost
prayer is necessary.
00:26:23.21\00:26:25.27
Parents need to
pray for themselves,
00:26:25.30\00:26:28.93
and they need to
pray with their children.
00:26:28.96\00:26:32.22
Parents have a
responsibility to share
00:26:32.69\00:26:35.08
the love of God with
them, and to be as God
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would be with them. You
know the greatest sermon;
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the greatest
message is what a person
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does rather than what they say.
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As far as their
dreaming is concerned,
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I firmly believe that
parents can help to make
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mold and shape
a dream in a child
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or they can destroy
it. They can decimate it,
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they can corrupt it.
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I think when
parents talk to children,
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they need to talk to
them from the vantage point
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that they're special,
God has something special
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for them to do,
and that they can do it
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by the grace of
God and with his help.
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Amen, and I think
that's wonderful advice,
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I would add to that perhaps
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that they also ought to model.
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The parents shouldn't always
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come to your
children and act like things
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are impossible. If
God's on your side,
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all things are
possible. Dr. Janice Browne,
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we enjoy having
you at 3ABN so much,
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and thank you for bringing
this delightful topic today.
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Thank you, it's my pleasure.
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For those of you at
home please remember
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don't put God in a box,
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the measure you use
will be measured back to you.
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So increase the
measure of your expectancy,
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and the way that you do
that is get into the word,
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find out what
God's promises are to you
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as his child, and
then hold fast to those,
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and let God plant
dreams in your heart.
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And may he do more
than you could ever imagine
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with those dreams
and plans he has for you.
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