Are you familiar with the term
psychotherapy. Today we're going
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to be talking about
psychotherapy and the Christian.
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Stay tuned. We'll be right back.
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Music being played
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Welcome to Issues and
Answers. My name is J.D. Quinn.
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Today we're going to be
talking about a big word called
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psychotherapy and how does
that relate to the Christian.
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We have a special guest today
and this is Dr. Magna Parks.
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Not only has Magna taught many,
many years, she'll explain it to
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you in a little bit, but she
has also written a book called
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Christian's Beware: The
Dangers of Secular Psychology.
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It's a good read. So
anyway, how are you doing today?
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I'm doing great.
It's good to be here.
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Tell us a little bit about
yourself, where you're from, are
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you married?
Well, I'm a licensed
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psychologist from Atlanta,
Georgia, married to a wonderful
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man names Al Parks. We've been
married for almost 13 years and
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I've been in the field of
psychology for over 20 years.
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It's been a
while. It's a long time.
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Yes, and as you've mentioned,
I've taught, I've even taught at
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Oakwood College for five years
and I was in private practice
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for almost 15 years, until
my husband and I started our
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current ministry,
Be In Good Health.
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Be In Good Health. That's a
good name, Be in Good Health.
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We just help educate people
about basic health principles
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mentally,
physically and spiritually.
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The whole gamut.
The whole gamut, yes.
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Amen. It's good to be here.
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Today we're going to be talking
about psychotherapy and the
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Christian. Psychotherapy is
one of those terms that a lot of
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people may not
know what it even means.
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So let's start off by
laying the foundation.
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What is psychotherapy?
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Psychotherapy is a form of
treatment where you use various
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psychological techniques
and methods to help people
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emotionally and to help them
behaviorally. So some of the
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methods may include, I try to
help you to understand who you
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are, why you became the way you
are. I try to help you deal with
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the conflicts that are inside.
Many people are dealing with
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conflicts inside, conflicting
feelings, conflicting thoughts.
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We use these methods to
draw these things out or to help
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people change their behaviors
or change their thoughts.
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So that's a basic summary
of what psychotherapy is.
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Man, that covers a lot.
It does, it does and it took
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me five years to learn
psychotherapy in my graduate
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training. Did you
every use it in your
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private practice? I sure
did; the whole 14 years I
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was there, well most of the
time I was there, until the Lord
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showed me some different things,
but I used it. I believe it
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helped some people. What I
found out later was it helped
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them for the short term, and the
reason I say that is because as
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the years went on I found many
people coming in who had been
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to three or four other
psychotherapists. That's when
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the antenna started to raise for
me that something is not exactly
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clicking here if they're cycling
in and out of therapy. They're
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not really healing emotionally
and mentally as we would hope
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they would as a result
of using these techniques.
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So I guess that of course
it probably comes down to each
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one's ability. Different secular
psychologists probably have
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different techniques, but after
four you would think that a
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red flag would go up there;
something is not working the
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way it should work.
Well, the bottom line is, and
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I'm going to talk about this
further, psychotherapy alone
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can alleviate symptoms, but the
true change does not occur until
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you start in the heart.
Psychotherapy just focuses on
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behaviors, thoughts and feelings
which are important. I don't
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want to down play that, some
people need that for the short
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term, but if they really want
deep-down true healing we need
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to go further than that.
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It seems like normally when
I hear the term psychotherapy
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I always think about well let's
take you back to your childhood.
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That's a major part of it.
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Let's go back there and let's
kind of start getting the big
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eraser out and let's kind of
start erasing this stuff, and
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then if we can just follow this
track and everything, well one
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of these days you're going to be
better. So, how does that lead
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to the problems if we do not
get past that as we get older?
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Well, it can lead to problems.
But the thing that I want to
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mention today is that as
Christians you can understand
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that, but unless Christ comes
into your heart and changes you,
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just understanding that will not
help us, if that makes any sense
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because as Christians we become
new creatures and when we become
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new creatures it doesn't mean
that tomorrow all my problems
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will be gone, but it means that
I have the different focus and
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my focus is on as that new
creature helping the creator to
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change me. Amen.
Seems to like what we
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don't truly understand is
the supernatural power of the
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creator who is doing this
adjusting. It's kind of hard to
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term your psychologist,
who probably could be your best
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friend for a while as being
supernatural. So I would rather
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go to someone that has
that supernatural power whenever
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you start. I think that
you brought some graphics.
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Yes, I did. Because I believe
that there is some impact of
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childhood, which you mentioned
earlier, that when you think of
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psychotherapy you think of going
back to childhood, and the Bible
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tells us that childhood has
an impact and there are other
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people who have written about
that. I have one graphic that
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shows something powerful that
I don't know if many people know
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know about this. Let's
go to that graphic now.
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The character of Napoleon
Bonaparte was greatly influenced
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by his training in childhood.
Unwise instructors inspired him
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with a love for conquest,
forming mimic armies and placing
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him at their head as
commander... And this is the
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significant sentence... Here
was laid the foundation for his
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career of strife and bloodshed.
So we see Napoleon Bonaparte,
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we know the history, we know
what kind of person he was, but
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this particular author is
telling us that the principles
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for that were laid in childhood
where he started to act out
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being a commander and carrying
out armies and all of that.
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We see the results of that
as an adult as we read history.
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We even see that today, you
know. Our kids, we want them
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to mimic things out. So
it's really what you put in is
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normally what you're going to
get out. This is a study here.
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It is, and as we look through
the Bible there are examples.
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When you look and you read
the books of Kings and Judges it
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says that he followed his
father's ways, or he followed
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his grandfather's ways. So
we know that childhood does have
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an impact and we cannot deny
that. We can't deny that at all,
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it's a reality. So
let's look at going back to
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childhood. So do we focus on
childhood to help people heal
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emotionally? Do we go there,
I mean, how does all that work?
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That's a very good question.
I could tell you how I used to
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work. People would come in,
I would spend initial time...
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I would actually ask them to
fill out questions about their
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childhood. How was your
relationship with your father?
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How did your mother treat your
dad? How did your mother treat
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you. How was your relationship
with your siblings. All of that
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does have an impact. So I
learned a lot from that. This is
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where I went wrong. As I spent
a lot of time getting their
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feelings out about that, drawing
pictures about it and they
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learned a lot, but the behavior
change didn't follow. I made a
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lot of money because that type
of therapy keeps people coming
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in because they really think
that they're learning, you know,
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this knowledge that I'm gaining
is really helping me to learn.
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It's interesting, one thought
that came to my mind was, Satan
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used that same explanation to
Eve, if you know more you'll be
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better. But we found out that
wasn't true and in psychology
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that is not necessarily true
that you know more meaning you
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will be better. I do believe,
however, there are times to
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make connections because God
wants us to make connections:
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I'm doing this because my father
did this. But the next step is,
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Lord, how can you help me to
move past this. After you gain
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that knowledge only God can come
in and help you to move forward
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and to change.
That's where I went wrong.
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Did you find out that some
of people just weren't able to
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answer these questions:
Oh many of them were not
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when I first started out in
the early 90's but I don't know
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if you've recognized, if
you look at TV and you go to the
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book stores, there are so many
books and so many program on how
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childhood impacts us now. People
are very knowledgeable about
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that. So they come in to
me talking about these things.
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I know why I am like this, my
father did this, this happened
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to me, that happened to me.
But as I started to learn more I
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said to myself, They know all of
this, but they're still coming
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in to see me. So
there's a disconnect somewhere.
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So, in order to heal emotionally
is that ever truly done?
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I don't think so personally.
I think some changes occur but
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not true emotional healing.
If we spend all the time talking
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about childhood personally I
don't think that it is done as
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thoroughly as it should
be. I really don't think so.
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It would just seem like that
would just be an unending mine
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that you just keep chipping
away and keep chipping away and
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it just gets deeper and deeper
and deeper. Then it gets a
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little bit more complicated
and then you go to the right or
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you go to the left and
it starts all over again.
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That's exactly what happens and
sometimes it opens up wounds as
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well that people would do better
just to keep closed, if that
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makes any sense. Most certainly
it does. You know sometimes you
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don't have to dig that wound
open again in order to heal; let
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it heal. I don't want
to throw it completely
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away but I think the problem
with secular psychology is
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that's where we stop and God
says, I want you to move further
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Amen. I certainly want to make a
point that we aren't downgrading
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psychologists in any way because
you are one. It's just that in
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your particular life the way
that God led, it took you up to
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a certain point and then
you were enlightened by the Holy
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Spirit, which is a gift to each
and every one of us and then
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you started seeing things
that you hadn't seen before.
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I probably could guess that you
started seeing a different type
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of healing in your clients.
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I did. Oh I can tell you so
many stories about the type of
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healing. I mentioned in another
program about the young lady who
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had been sexually abused by
so many different people and had
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been through years of therapy
and it was only when we started
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talking about forgiveness that
her healing occurred. I know
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another story of a woman who was
having problems because she was
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the illegitimate child, the only
child of this particular father
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and all her sisters had the same
mother and father. She came to
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me and had been through all
this therapy and the Holy Spirit
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impressed me to take a chapter
or a page out of a particular
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book called Desire of Ages that
talks about Christ being sort of
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illegitimate because he
didn't have the earthly father.
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She read it and came and said to
me, This is the solution to my
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problems. If Christ went through
this and was able to be okay,
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I can go through this and be
okay too. She said, Thank you
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so much for sharing that
with me. But if I had used the
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traditional psychotherapy, we
would have been there exploring
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her feelings about what it feels
like to be the only child of
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this father and, Oh, I'm just
sure you're hurting so much,
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you know. But God has just
blessed to be able to lead me to
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know through the Holy Spirit
how to really help this woman.
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Now I guess that there are
other types of psychotherapy.
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Yes there are. Some
psychotherapists don't even
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look at childhood. Some of them
just focus purely on changing
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behaviors; like if a child has
problems with urinating in the
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bed all the time, they use
behavior modification techniques
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where they do certain things to
help the child stop doing that
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if it's not a physiological
problem. With smoking, or with
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overweight they use reward-
punishment systems to help
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people to change their behaviors
and that's pretty effective.
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However, what is happening is
all we do is look for changing
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of behaviors and not changing
of the heart what will happen?
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If another behavior goes bad
guess what, I'm running back to
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that psychotherapist again. So
those things are helpful, but we
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still, even as we go to them
because I'm not saying not to
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go to them, but even as we
go we recognize this may stop my
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behavior but I have to keep
carrying it further so the Lord
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can change my heart. So
I'm assuming that if there
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are people in our audience that
seem like they have come to a
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crossroad and they can't go any
further and they have been going
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to their therapist for a long
time, perhaps they need to get
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on their knees. Amen,
amen. The other thing they
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could do is to find someone
who is biblically based, not
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necessarily a PhD or a masters
in psychology. A grounded pastor
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a grounded Bible worker, a
grounded church member who knows
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God's word could help this
person move past that block.
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That's what I love about God's
word. You don't have to have a
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Ph. D. If you have one that's
great, but if you don't have one
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there's many people that
you can reach out to and help.
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Now everybody has different
goals and some people have
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different influences in their
life and different opportunities
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than other people have, but we
can all have the heart of God if
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we can just turn it over and
surrender it to him. You can use
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this in mighty ways, mighty
ways. Should a red flag go up
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whenever we're talking
about Christianity and secular
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psychology? Well
yes, a red flag should go
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up because we need to compare
everything with scripture. And
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related to that, we shouldn't
just automatically assume that
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because someone titles
themselves as a Christian
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psychologist that they are safe.
I titled myself as a Christian
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psychologist. The insurance
company, because I was on a lot
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of insurance lists as a mental
health provider, they would
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refer people to me because the
person would call in and say I
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want a Christian psychologist.
But, J.D., you know what I was
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doing. I rarely picked up their
Bible. They came to me, I was a
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Christian, but I used a lot
of Freud, I used a lot of Carl
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Rogers, I used a lot of Maslow.
But they just wanted to know I
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was a Christian. So because
a person has that title before
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them does not mean they are
going to refer more to the Bible
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than to secular psychology to
help. So I tell people that all
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the time; when you're looking
for someone kind of talk to
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them and get a sense of the
methods they use, how much do
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you use the Bible? How
much do you pray? Just ask those
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questions and if they are honest
they will answer them and they
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will give you an idea of
what they mean when they dub
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themselves as a
Christian psychologist.
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You know, back whenever I grew
up we were vaccinated as kids,
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measles, mumps and all this
kind of stuff and everything.
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And I found out that with a
small group of people it didn't
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take. So even if you were
vaccinated, doesn't necessarily
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mean that it's going to take.
So it's very important that you
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do ask whoever you choose to
share time with from a therapy
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standpoint that
you're on the same page.
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That's very important,
very important, especially for
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Christians because our guidebook
is the Bible and when we deviate
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away from that, that can be
problematic. But even for the
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secular person. You may not
have to day Bible scripture to
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them but the principles of the
Bible are much more healing than
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what secular
psychology alone has to offer.
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I know that people call
3ABN pastoral department quite
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often, not to counsel, because
we don't counsel, but they do
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call for prayer because they
know that there is something
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supernatural in prayer. There
are many times, and I say this
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with love in my heart,
that you've got some people that
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just want to talk. They really
don't want to allow God to work.
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They'd rather just talk, talk,
talk, talk. You know you can
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only talk for so long
and especially as many people
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that call us. So I've found
myself, and I'm saying this with
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love in my heart. I mean, it's
very important that you hear
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that. I say, Do you want to
just talk or do we want to get
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to the bottom of this issue?
If you want to get to the issue,
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we can bring Jesus
Christ into this real quick.
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You say you're not a counselor.
You're a good counselor.
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Well, thank you Jesus. But the
whole thing is here again just
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because they're vaccinated does
not mean that it's going to take
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We do deal with lots of hurting
people. What about people
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getting on the Christian
band wagon. Is it strictly a
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Christian band wagon or do
other non-Christian's express
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concerns about
the psychotherapy?
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Oh yes. Non-Christians are
expressing concern especially
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the research psychologists.
You know there's a divide in
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psychology, many people don't
know that between those who do
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research and those who
do therapy. When I was going
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through school the researchers
would criticize them saying
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you're basing all these
things on Freud, Rogers, Maslow.
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There's not been any research
on this. But we actually have a
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graphic that shows one study and
the results of what one study
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showed about psychotherapy and
how much it works. Let's show
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that graphic right now.
In a review of 42 studies
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comparing professional
therapists with paraprofessional
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therapists... let me explain,
paraprofessional is the one who
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doesn't have the degree in
psychology or mental health...
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only one study out of
those 42 showed that the trained
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therapist got better results.
Twenty-nine studies showed no
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difference between those
two groups and the remaining 12
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studies showed that the
paraprofessionals actually
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out-performed the professional
therapists. You know if I had
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read that study years ago when
it came out I would not have
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been a happy camper because I
spent a lot of years in school
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and a lot of money. But
what this is saying is that the
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trained did not necessarily do
much better than those who were
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not trained in helping people
with their problems. And many
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psychologists and mental health
professionals might not want to
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hear that but I'm just
basing it on what science shows.
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There are psychologists who are
non-therapists out there saying,
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You know guys, you're doing this
but I don't know necessarily if
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you're doing any better than a
person who just provides a good
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listening ear. So there
are some secular people who are
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recognizing... Actually there's
a book that's called On Blanking
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Out; it's something
about Americans becoming less
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strong and less resilient
because we're so therapy prone.
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There was a time when Americans
were strong because we were able
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to, for lack of a better term,
pull ourselves up by our own
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bootstraps. But the
therapizing of America has
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actually made us weaker.
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They just did it, you know, they
just got out there and they just
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did it. If a person can be
led, and many people can be led,
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if they're being led, they
can be molded. So this again is
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where to me it only makes sense;
of course, I'm coming from a
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spiritual aspect, let's let God
take over. Let's let him do what
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he does. He's supernatural, so
supernatural things are going to
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happen if you invite him in and
just say, I'm yours Lord. You
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know, not my will be done
but yours be done. It would just
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make sense, if you choose to
believe that He is real, then He
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certainly will do what he
has promised to do. I've got a
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question here. It says what
about Christian psychologists,
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we're talking about on the
graphic there, and are they
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safer for us as Christians?
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If they're using the Bible as
their base they are, very much
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so. If they're basing their
counsel from the principles of
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scripture, they are safer than
a secular psychologist because
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scripture is going to bring
lasting change when we apply it.
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Secular psychology only changes
the outside, but the scripture
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will bring the lasting change.
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I would assume that if you
are indeed a Christian you are
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looking for change and you know
your change does come from Jesus
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and so that would probably
just help their mind set even
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so they'd go into it looking.
I know Father that you're out
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there, I know that if I ask you
to come into my heart that you
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will come in and you
know the issues that I have.
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But you know the sad part, J.D.,
is that I've spoken to some
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Christians and I tell them how I
work since the Lord has changed
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my way and they're like you just
use the Bible? That breaks my
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heart when I hear that because
we don't recognize how rich the
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Bible is and the principles that
are in there. I remember working
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with a non-religious person and
they were going through a lot of
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stress and I said, I'm going to
share a principle with you that
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is found in Deuteronomy.
I always forget the chapter.
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Now I didn't tell them this. I
just said remember this, As thy
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day so shall thy strength
be. They took that home and came
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back to me a week or two later
and said, You know, I repeated
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that to myself every day and
it made a difference. Because
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I explained it to them. God will
provide you strength for this
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day. You go to bed and wake
up and then the next day he will
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provide you strength. Don't
try to surmount the whole week.
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Take one day at a time and he
will give you strength. Actually
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I didn't say God now that
I think about it, I just said
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strength will be given to you.
And they took that principle and
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went with it and said that
was so helpful to hear that
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principle. That's just an
example out of many. One author
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says, True psychology is found
in the scriptures and I truly
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believe that. I
believe that. I guess that
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psychology itself, what is
that, the study of human nature?
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Of the mind. That's right,
the study of the mind. And who
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better knows the mind than the
creator of the mind. I remember
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that he promises us grace for
the day. So let's don't sit and
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get caught up in what could
happen tomorrow because he's
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promised us, As your day is then
your strength shall be. And if
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we start building up mountains
for tomorrow, which lots of
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people do, then he says, Wait a
minute here, I haven't promised
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you grace for tomorrow, it will
come, that's tomorrow. Let's
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bring reality and
let's deal with today.
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You know, another Bible
verse that focuses on that is
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Matthew 6. Take no thought
therefore for tomorrow for
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tomorrow shall bring, I'm just
blanking on it, but sufficient
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unto the day is the evil
thereof. Tomorrow shall take
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thought for
itself, that's what it is.
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Exactly. The truth of the matter
is many people have been hurt
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in childhood. How can they be
helped? Because they experience
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this pain as a child, they carry
it on as a young adult and then
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many people... I mean I've had
people call that are 80 years
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old and they've never shared an
issue that they've had in their
00:24:02.65\00:24:07.32
life with anybody; 80 years old!
But they've experienced this as
00:24:07.36\00:24:12.00
a child. So they went
from childhood, young adulthood
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adulthood and they continue to
grow. But how can they be helped
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Do we have any ideal in dealing
with the people that have been
00:24:22.19\00:24:28.22
hurt by childhood experiences?
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Since I've learned a different
way I start out with people and
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I say to them, Let's look
at focusing on how God can help
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you move past this. Present this
to God and say, God this person
00:24:39.91\00:24:44.02
this parent did this terrible
thing to me. What is it that you
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can do for me through this. How
can you heal me? And turn to his
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word for that. It sounds
so simplistic and sometimes I
00:24:52.87\00:24:56.27
actually might need to hold
their hand in helping them find
00:24:56.31\00:24:59.84
that in God's word. But when
they do that healing can come.
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The other thing is looking
at what we can learn from these
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things. There are some
people who have become wonderful
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people, not that God put this on
them for that to happen, but as
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a result of these childhood
difficulties they could comfort
00:25:15.49\00:25:18.88
others wherewith they have been
comforted. So a person who has
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been molested can easily talk
to someone who has been molested
00:25:22.74\00:25:26.09
A person who has been through
a divorce can easily relate to
00:25:26.12\00:25:29.41
someone who has been divorced
and they can, Lord, because of
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these things I can help so many
people. So there are a lot of
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things that I do with people
like that but those are two that
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just come to mind, helping them
turn to scripture and the Lord
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and helping them to say,
Lord, what can I do with this
00:25:39.77\00:25:42.46
situation. How can I help others
and when that attention is
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focused away from self, healing
can come and that's what I've
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seen happen in so many
different situations and cases.
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How has this changed your life?
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Oh it's changed my life
tremendously. First of all, I
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can just be honest. It's helped
me deal with things that have
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gone on in my own past
that I was looking to secular
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psychology, but as I learned
this, I recognized how God could
00:26:05.51\00:26:08.39
help me move past there number
one and number two it's changed
00:26:08.42\00:26:11.26
how I work with people
completely. I use biblical
00:26:11.29\00:26:14.41
principles. One thing I
also learned in working with
00:26:14.45\00:26:17.50
Dr. Neal Nedley was it helped
me understand how to apply just
00:26:17.53\00:26:20.64
basic health principles to
help the mind function better;
00:26:20.68\00:26:23.74
working with people who are
depressed or who are anxious.
00:26:23.77\00:26:26.60
Helping them learn how to eat
better, helping them know about
00:26:26.63\00:26:29.60
what time to get to bed so those
hormones can be released in the
00:26:29.63\00:26:32.65
brain to help the brain function
better with stress and with
00:26:32.69\00:26:36.54
depression, helping them to
exercise, even the music they
00:26:36.57\00:26:40.01
listen to, find healing music.
These are the things that I do
00:26:40.04\00:26:43.16
with people and actually when
I started doing that before in
00:26:43.20\00:26:46.24
my practice I lost money because
people stopped coming in as much
00:26:46.28\00:26:49.41
because they were calling in
leaving messages on the front
00:26:49.44\00:26:51.95
desk saying, Well, tell Dr.
Parks I'm doing much better.
00:26:51.99\00:26:55.51
So I lost money, but people
healed much quicker because
00:26:55.55\00:26:59.10
I was using God's principles.
It was a wonderful thing.
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Then they are also blessed
but God honors that, God honors
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you know, because we're not
looking for things of this of
00:27:06.64\00:27:10.04
this earth. You know, we are
looking for what comes beyond
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that. Once again, psychotherapy
is what in 25 words or less.
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It is using the techniques of
psychology to help people change
00:27:20.26\00:27:24.54
behaviors, emotions and thoughts
helping them gain insight to
00:27:24.57\00:27:28.36
resolved conflicts and all of
that. That's what psychotherapy
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does. Well, once
again we're running
00:27:32.18\00:27:36.04
out of time. But I just
want you to know how much I have
00:27:36.07\00:27:41.34
appreciated your input and not
only have I appreciated it but
00:27:41.37\00:27:45.95
I'm sure that our audience
out there has appreciated it.
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Well there's such a blessing to
be here. I'm so grateful to be
00:27:48.39\00:27:51.72
here and share what the
Lord has shared with me.
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Once again, Be In Good
Health That's the name of your
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ministry? Yes it is. Amen, Amen.
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I just want to thank each
one of you for being with us at
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Issues and Answers. Just know
how much that we love each one
00:28:03.21\00:28:06.28
of you and we will continue
to pray earnestly for you.
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God bless.
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