I was walking in the mall the
other day and I saw a T-shirt
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that said, The forbidden fruit
tastes the sweetest. I thought
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what an ungodly message. I
didn't recognize that it was
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connected to a craze that
has invaded our whole society on
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vampirism. I want to read
something to you from Tyrone
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Edwards who was an American
theologian. Here's what he said:
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Sinful and forbidden pleasures
are like poisoned bread; they
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may satisfy appetite for the
moment, but there is death in
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them at the end. Join is today
on Issues and Answers as we
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discuss this new craze
that has taken over our country.
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Music is being played.
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Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn and
we're very glad that you could
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join us today. We're going to
be talking about a serious issue
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and one that is invading not
only our nation but around the
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world. I know we have
many viewers around the world
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watching and you will probably
be familiar with this. If you're
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not, you need to be. There are a
series of books, actually there
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are four books and they are
called the Twilight Series and
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they have been made into movies
and they are about vampirism.
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I want you to look at the front
of this book. Do you see these
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two hands holding an apple?
Inside the book the author
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in the epilogue actually
quotes in this book on vampirism
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Genesis 2:17: But of the tree
of knowledge of good and evil
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thou shalt not eat of it.
From the day that thou eatest
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thereof thou shalt surely die.
This is inside a book that is on
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vampirism. It is a dangerous
thing and we need to be aware
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of it. Here to talk to us today
is our special guest Pastor
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Steve Wohlberg who is the
speaker-director of White Horse
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Media. Steve, we are so
glad that you have come back.
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Thank you, Shelley, it's good
to be back with you. We're good
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friends and it's always a
blessing to be on the program
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with you. I just
with you had Kristen and
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Seth and Abby with you.
Yes I know, I do too. They are
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home in north Idaho safe and
sound and I'll be heading that
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way tomorrow, so I'll
be back with them shortly.
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Good. You know, Steve, you have
written many books, 24, at least
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two dozen books and you recently
wrote this little book, a little
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pocket booklet that's
called The Darkness of Twilight.
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For our viewers who are
not familiar with the Twilight
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series, please explain what
this is and we're going to get
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into why it is so dark.
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Sure. That little book is very
different from the bigger book
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that you held up a little while
ago. The first book, the big
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book, that is the actual first
novel in the Twilight Series.
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Twilight is a series of
fictitious novels. There are
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four of them and they are making
each novel into a movie. They
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were by a Mormon woman names
Stephenie Meyer who lives in the
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Phoenix area who has been
catapulted to unbelievable
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fame and stardom. She is just
extremely wealthy right now.
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We'll talk more about how
she got the whole idea for the
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Twilight saga in a dream.
She saw this vampire boy and a
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normal girl discussing their
love relationship in a meadow.
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She came out of her dream and
she began to write these books
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and in a short time she landed
a big deal with a big publisher,
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$750,000 publishing contract.
She was really an unpublished
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writer and before she knew what
was going on, one book became
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two, three and four. They became
incredible best sellers and now
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they're making each book into
a movie and all around the world
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many different translations
of these books, you've got kids,
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teenagers, especially teenage
girls, who are just obsessed and
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absorbed with the whole Twilight
romance between the vampire boy
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and the teenage girl and there
are also werewolves involved and
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vampirism in the story and there
is a lot of occultism that is
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woven into Twilight as well.
So that is why I wrote my book
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The Darkness of Twilight to try
to sound a sensible warning to
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parents and to young people to
really take a close look at some
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of the things that are going
on behind the scenes and the
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dangers that are involved in the
occult in Twilight itself and in
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the whole message of forbidden
fruit, which you mentioned,
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which is very much
a part of Twilight.
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Why do you believe that someone
who is writing on the occult and
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and vampirism and things like
this would quote from the Bible?
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Why has she drawn this parallel?
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Yes, that's a great question.
As you mentioned as you showed
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the cover of the book, the first
Twilight book has a picture of
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two tempting hands holding
forbidden fruit and there is a
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Bible verse that comes
from Genesis 2:17 right at the
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beginning of the series. I
think there are a number of
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reasons for this; why the cover
was chosen, why that Bible verse
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is there. I think if you were
to ask Stephenie Meyer or her
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publisher why they did this,
I think they would probably say,
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at least the first reason, is
that it's a literary device to
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illustrate a story and when you
get into the story what happens
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is you've got this girl, her
name is Isabella Swan. She is
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17, she leaves Phoenix. She goes
to Forks, Washington, this small
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little town which is there today
which has also been transformed
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into a tourist center because of
Twilight. It's amazing. It's not
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too far from where I live now
in north Idaho. So you've got
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this girl that goes to Forks.
She gets away from her mother
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for certain reasons and she
enrolls in Forks high school.
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She meets this boy who she
doesn't know at first is really
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a vampire. Other people in the
school don't know he's a vampire
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and he's part of a family called
the Cullen family. They're "good
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vampires" and the two of them
meet, they fall in love and she
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eventually discovers that he is
a vampire. Then she has to make
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a choice and the choice is
should she be involved with a
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boy that is a vampire. Her
mother would certainly give
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thumbs down if she knew, dad
would too and her friends. But
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she wrestles with the question.
One of the opening scenes in the
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Twilight Saga shows they two of
them in a cafeteria and the boy
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looks across the room and he
just gives her a very tempting
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smile and he invites her to come
on over to meet with her. So she
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comes over and she describes,
in the novel, his shockingly
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tempting smile, this
wicked glint in his eyes and she
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eventually falls in love with
him, finds out he's a vampire,
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and then she has to make a
choice: Should she be involved
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in this what you might call a
forbidden relationship with this
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boy. She eventually chooses,
yes I'll be involved in the
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forbidden relationship, I'll
eat the forbidden fruit and her
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desire is to find happiness
on the other side. That's really
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what Twilight does. In the last
book they get married and they
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have a baby and she becomes a
vampire herself, the girl, and
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she finds all these exciting,
cool, supernatural powers being
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a vampire. The bottom line is
that Bella Swan finds happiness
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through eating forbidden fruit.
That's why the picture of the
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apple is on the front, that's
why the quote is there. But
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there's another reason and that
is that Stephenie Meyer is a
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Mormon, the lady that wrote the
series and when you take a close
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look at Mormon theology, Mormons
actually believe that Adam and
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Eve's choice to eat the
forbidden fruit in the garden
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of Eden was really ultimately a
good thing. It was part of God's
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plan that they would learn
and grow and develop spiritually
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through conflict with evil and
having to make choices between
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good and evil throughout the
history of fallen man. So not
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only did Stephenie Meyer get
the whole idea for Twilight in a
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dream, not only do the publisher
and Stephanie think that it's
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a good literary device to
enhance a story to show the
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between a girl choosing to eat
the forbidden relationship that
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she enters into, but Stephenie
Meyer's theology is woven in
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there as well, that it's
really a good thing. She is
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communicating a message that
happiness can be found through
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a forbidden relationship through
eating through forbidden fruit
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which is exactly the devil's
line in the Garden of Eden. When
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he tempted Eve to eat that
fruit he promised her godhood,
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immortality, she would never
die, she would be like God and
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Eve took the
fruit and she ate it.
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You know, when I think of the
tree of good and evil, I just
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think about the whole picture
of the Garden of Eden. Here was
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absolute perfection and the
only requirement God asked of
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them as a test of their loyalty,
if you will, but also to protect
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them was not to eat from this
tree of the knowledge of good
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and evil. That fruit, probably
wasn't an apple, but whatever
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fruit it was, the same fruit,
it wasn't like there were black
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fruit, the evil fruit, and the
white fruit that were the good
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fruit. God was simply saying, I
believe, that he didn't want us
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to try to figure out what
was good for us and/or what was
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bad for us. Yet the devil always
tries to blend. He takes his
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evil and he puts just enough
good in it, it's like a bitter
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drink that somebody's put some
sweetener in, if you will, to
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try to make it tempting to
us. The way he did that with Eve
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was to say, Did God surely say
this? But if you'll take of this
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you're going to be just like him
and isn't that what's happening
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here. Kids are beginning
to emulate. We see the rise of
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vampirism and kids are beginning
to emulate a lot of what they
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see on this because they are
looking for power. How dangerous
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do you think this whole message
of blending good and evil is?
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I think it's very dangerous,
Shelley. It's very subtle and
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when it comes to Twilight,
it's very complicated and multi-
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faceted and I realize as you and
I have talked about before that
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there are so many people that
love Twilight and I'm not on a
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crusade to attack them or
to drive a stake through their
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hearts. You know, I'm not a
vampire killer; but I recognize
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with spiritual discernment I
believe God has given me that
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there are hidden dangers that
are going on behind the scenes
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in the whole Twilight phenomena,
the saga, the series, the movies
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and other vampire programs.
It's not the only one. Now we've
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talked before about Harry
Potter. The insidious thing
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about Harry Potter is that in
Harry Potter the good guy is the
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wizard and that's Harry and he
fights the bad guy who is Lord
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Voldemort, an evil wizard. So
you've got a good wizard against
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the bad wizard and it makes
good wizardry look attractive.
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That's why a lot of kids
have, or one reason, it's a
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contributing reason why young
people have become interested
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in Wicca is because Wicca claims
to offer them white magic just
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like Harry Potter is the
good wizard. Now in Twilight the
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characters have changed and
it's vampirism. I want to talk
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a little bit about the character
of Edward. I've got a magazine
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here. We don't have to quote it
or go into a lot of detail about
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it, but I've shown this to you.
This is just one of many, many
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teenage magazines. There is the
actor who plays Edward Cullen
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the vampire boy in Twilight.
His name is Robert Pattinson and
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the girl is Kristen Stewart
and she plays Bella Swan. The
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character of Edward is very
interesting. Stephenie Meyer
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has painted him in spite of,
as I mentioned, his shockingly
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tempting smile and the wicked
glint in his eyes, as really a
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good guy in the series. He's a
good vampire. He didn't want to
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be a vampire in the first place.
A hundred years before the time
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when Bella meets him in the
Saga he was dying of the Spanish
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influenza and he was about
to die and he was bitten by
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another vampire who made him
into a vampire in an effort to
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save his life. So he didn't
want to be a vampire and now he
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he wishes he wasn't a vampire.
He falls in love with Bella and
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he knows he's not good for her
and resists, or tries to resist,
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the temptation to be involved
with her but finally he just
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can't resist it so in the
cafeteria he says come over
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here, let's talk and let's start
on this track. She discovers
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he's a vampire but he portrays
a good vampire; he's a good guy,
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he uses his vampire abilities,
his supernatural powers to
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protect her from the evil
vampires that also are in the
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the Twilight series. His
character is one that creates
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sympathy for the vampire and
as I mentioned he's very cool.
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The actor, Robert Pattinson, you
know, he's just playing a role.
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But he's a handsome guy and
especially teenage girls are
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looking at him on the screen,
they have fallen in love with
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him, they've fallen in love with
her. They just like them and
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they're just absorbed in the
series. Edward portrays the good
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guy who is a vampire, doesn't
want to be a vampire, has a
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conscience, acts unselfishly,
wants to do what's best for her.
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Eventually the two get married.
They don't have any sex until
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after marriage. So there are
some moral principles that are
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in there. He does act in a noble
way in many ways and it creates
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sympathy for the good vampire.
The reality is that just like
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with Harry Potter portraying the
good wizard and now you portray
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the good vampire, it is creating
interest in vampirism among
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teens. As I mentioned, the whole
message of forbidden fruit is
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woven into the series that
having this relationship, this
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forbidden relationship, can
result in happiness. Satan's
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line to young and old is
that if you do things that you
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shouldn't be doing you can find
happiness anyway. That is the
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message that is in Twilight,
it's the message that the Bible
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tells us is wrong, is an evil
message, we should stay away
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from the forbidden entirely and
yet Twilight makes it look good.
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Like you said, it's a
sugar- coated package. Also as I
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mentioned the occultism; we
talked about that side. Edward
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and his whole family, the Cullen
family, they are all "vegetarian
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vampires," they're good
vampires. They don't drink human
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blood, only animal blood, but
they are part of what's called
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the Olympic coven. There are
many covens that are referred to
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in Twilight among good vampires
and bad vampires. Edward has
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psychic abilities; he reads
minds. There is what is called
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shape shifting involved
throughout Twilight where
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certain people have the ability
to, especially Jacob Black and
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his family members, have the
ability to be come wolves. So
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you've got shape shifting
which is also called lycanthropy
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which is an occult practice
where people try to become
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animals and there's just all
kinds of subtle occultism woven
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throughout Twilight and it makes
the whole thing look attractive
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and cool and appealing to
young people and people can very
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easily, as I have mentioned
before, go from a novel to a
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movie to a web site to a chat
room and start checking out the
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real thing and vampirism is
on the rise, occultism is on the
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rise and Twilight is a very
pleasant gateway into the dark
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world of the occult. That's one
of the reason's why it's very
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dangerous. You
know, we talked about that
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when you were here previously
and we talked about many of the
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dangers. The thing that
impressed me because I looked
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at a note, I mean I looked some
things up, is that the actor,
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the young actor who
plays Edward finds plainness in
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the whole message of the books;
something, there's a power he
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feels. Explain that. He
is actually quoted in that
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magazine as saying that when
he first auditioned for the part
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and he got the job that he
didn't really know anything
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about Twilight but know that
he's absorbed in the series he's
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said that "The books have a
power." They definitely have a
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power and he's recognized that
and it has even affecting his
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life; it's influencing him
and he knows it. There is a
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spiritual, I believe a
supernatural power behind
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Twilight. As I mentioned, the
entire saga originated not from
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creative thought but it
originated in a dream that was
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given to Stephenie Meyer where
she saw this glittering boy who
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was a vampire and this normal
teenage girl in a meadow having
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an intense conversation and he
was a vampire, she wasn't, they
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were in love and what are
they going to do about their
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relationship. When she
woke up from her dream it was
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June 2, 2003, she felt compelled
to start writing this story out.
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She says on her own website
that the voices of these two
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characters were voices in
her head that would not shut up.
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That's what she says. And they
compelled her to move forward
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and to write this series of
books. Then after she landed the
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big publishing contract and Saga
began to come together, later on
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Stephenie Meyer had a second
dream. In the second dream she
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saw the vampire boy again and
he came to her, but this time
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he was quite vicious and
displeased with her. Evidently
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she had sanitized somewhat
the script that the voice from
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the other side designed for
her to have and in the Twilight
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series some of her morality
is in there where she makes the
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Cullen family all "vegetarian
vampires" who don't drink human
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blood, only animal blood. In
this second dream this vampire
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boy appeared to Stephenie
Meyer just like a ghost, like a
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spirit and he rebuked her and he
told her, I do drink human blood
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You've got it wrong and he
wasn't happy at all. Stephenie
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Meyer herself publicly stated
that she was terrified as a
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result of that second dream.
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Yet she didn't realize it
was a spirit talking to her?
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I don't think so, or at least
not consciously. You know Eve
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didn't realize what she was
doing when she ate the fruit
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and the voice was very pleasant.
It was working through a
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beautiful serpent and she was
allured into this and she took
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the fruit. Stephenie
Meyer has now been catapulted to
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unbelievable fame and she
has just got all this money just
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like Mrs. Rolling who wrote the
Harry Potter series. There is a
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parallel between these series.
Mrs. Rolling received the whole
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idea for Harry Potter while she
was on a train in 1990 outside
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of London. She didn't
have a dream, but it was like a
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revelation that just popped into
her mind. She said the character
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of Harry Potter was fully
formed. He walked right into my
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head and she got a story line
from this revelation and then
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she began to write and now
you know the rest is history.
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Stephenie Meyer was not an
accomplished writer. She got a
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story line in a dream, she
began to write and now they're
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both famous and both story lines
are laden with occultism and
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both story lines, I believe,
are designed by their author to
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make the occult look attractive
and to lure young people into
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things that are very dangerous.
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Okay, so let's talk about this
second dream and the idea of
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that blood is at the heart
of the battle between Jesus and
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Satan. This is where
the danger is, is it not?
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Well this is part of the danger.
I mean, Satan would be happy
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just to create mesmerizing
entertainment so that people
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have no interest in their
Bibles and he is bombarding this
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generation with one entertaining
movie and TV program after
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another so kids and adults
are getting so absorbed in what
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Hollywood has to offer that they
have no time and no interest
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in this book. But beyond that,
Satan knows that the heart of
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the Bible is the blood of Jesus
Christ and that through the
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blood of Jesus Christ is where
the real power is. We can have
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forgiveness of sins, we can have
a clean conscience and we can
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actually overcome him. Let me
show you a verse in Revelation
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chapter 12 verse 11.
Revelation 12:11 says, the Bible
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says concerning God's people
that they overcome him, which is
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the devil, by the blood of the
Lamb and by the word of their
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testimony and they loved
not their lives to the death.
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This verse shows that God's
people overcome Satan through
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blood, through the blood of
Jesus. I am totally convinced
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that Satan knows that, he hates
the blood of Jesus and he wants
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to direct people to fascinating
forms of entertainment to get
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them especially absorbed
in a focus on the wrong blood.
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That's part of the lure of
vampirism is the mystique of
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the whole thing of blood. As
I mentioned when we talked about
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this before, it's very easy to
go from a fascination with blood
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to trying blood to becoming
addicted to blood and there are
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actual cases where people have
murdered for blood. You know,
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evil doesn't just...See
now explain what you are saying
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not just people but people who
claim to be vampires who have
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actually become
addicted to blood.
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There are people like Daniel
Ruda and Tracy Wiggington and
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there's a whole host of
people who are vampire killers:
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Rod Farrel. These people have
murdered other people to drink
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their blood. I don't spend
a lot of time on this because
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I just want to draw people's
attention to where this thing
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eventually leads to point people
to Jesus Christ. But we are in a
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battle and the heart of this
battle is blood and I'm fully
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convinced that Satan gave
Stephenie Meyer that dream to
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create a mesmerizing form
of entertainment to get kids
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interested. He's couched it in
a love story, but inside of it
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is occultism and ultimately he
wants to suck people into these
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kinds of things and vampirism
has been given a facelift.
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Edward is the good vampire just
like Harry Potter was the good
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wizard and kids are checking out
vampirism. As we talked about
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before, not only are
teenagers changing their makeup
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preferences and going into
lighter, more pale forms of
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makeup, shades of makeup,
because they want to be like
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Edward and Bella, but many of
them are checking out the occult
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and it's very, very dangerous,
Shelley. Like I said, Satan
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knows what he doing. He's
working behind the scenes, he's
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smart and... Well,
you know, this counterfeit
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focus on this vampirism seems
to be a counterfeit focus on the
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blood and I was going to share
this scripture. You are very
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familiar with this that 1
John 1:7 said, But if we walk
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in the light as he is in the
light we will have fellowship
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with one another and the blood
of Jesus Christ cleanses us from
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all sin. I don't know about you,
but in my mind I look around
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and see that so many of the
prophecies are being fulfilled.
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I believe the devil knows his
time is short, I believe he's
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trying to do anything he can to
either keep us too busy to focus
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on God or to take...as Roger
Morneau once said, he was a
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Christian author who had
actually been a Satanist and
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very high up in the church
of Satan, and he said that he
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overheard a conversation
with Satan and Satan was saying
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forget the older ones, just
focus on the youth. If you can
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destroy the youth you can
destroy the church. We look
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right now at this Twilight
series and until I knew I was
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going to be talking to you,
I wasn't that familiar with it.
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But we look at it and we think,
Oh well, this is fiction. We're
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not paying attention. My kids
aren't listening. But kids are
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every where and they are being
affected like you mentioned that
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T- shirt that says, Forbidden
fruit tastes the best. Now let
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me mention something
else about forbidden fruit.
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In the Twilight Series, as Bella
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wrestles with the idea of dating
a vampire, falling in love with
00:25:09.70\00:25:13.76
him and being with him, Edward,
because of his conscience thinks
00:25:13.79\00:25:19.27
I'm not good for you and you
could lose your soul over being
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in a relationship with me. In
the first Twilight book, he even
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says, I'm on my way to hell
and he knows it and he's sorry
00:25:26.04\00:25:30.01
for it, he doesn't want to
be but he's just stuck in this
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vampire existence and he says to
Bella, I'm not good for you, and
00:25:33.43\00:25:36.72
eventually Bella realizes that
he's concerned about her soul.
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So in the second book,
especially in the second movie,
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New Moon, Bella states to Edward
she says, I don't care about my
00:25:43.57\00:25:49.70
soul. I want to be with you.
I don't care about my soul. You
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can have it, you can have it,
you've already got it anyway.
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So not only is Twilight
permeated with a subtle form
00:25:55.69\00:26:00.22
of occultism but it also sends
a strong message through kids
00:26:00.25\00:26:03.62
identifying with Bella
that their souls are not that
00:26:03.65\00:26:08.47
important and that getting
involved in the forbidden fruit
00:26:08.50\00:26:11.79
is the path to happiness and
that is the message that comes
00:26:11.82\00:26:15.11
right out of Twilight. I got an
e- mail from a girl in her 20's
00:26:15.14\00:26:18.87
who had read the Twilight series
and she agreed totally with me.
00:26:18.90\00:26:22.45
She said, This is one of the
most dangerous parts of Twilight
00:26:22.48\00:26:25.64
beyond the occult is the message
that your soul doesn't really
00:26:25.67\00:26:29.86
matter and Bella is willing to
sacrifice it in order to be with
00:26:29.89\00:26:33.91
Edward. That's dangerous.
When people say, Hey, it's just
00:26:33.94\00:26:37.70
fiction, that it's not affecting
them, that's not true. You know
00:26:37.73\00:26:40.66
Satan knows that he can affect
kids through fiction, especially
00:26:40.69\00:26:44.04
through these two characters,
Bella and Edward, that kids have
00:26:44.07\00:26:47.66
fallen in love with and
they're getting a message, it's
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dangerous and it's time for us
to give them God's message and
00:26:50.53\00:26:54.40
to warn them about the subtle
devices of the devil trying to
00:26:54.43\00:26:57.85
trick their souls and lead them
to sacrifice everything and end
00:26:57.88\00:27:02.91
up in the lake of fire and
that's my concern. That's why I
00:27:02.94\00:27:05.13
wrote this little book and we
have a passion about it to point
00:27:05.16\00:27:08.78
people away from the darkness
and point them to Jesus Christ.
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Steve, why don't you tell
our viewers how they can get
00:27:11.87\00:27:13.98
The Darkness of
Twilight? What is your website?
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Sure we have a simple website.
It's avoidtwilight.com. We have
00:27:18.13\00:27:22.14
have a toll free
number 800-78-Bible.
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The book is under a dollar and
it's just great to share with
00:27:24.19\00:27:27.42
teenagers and with people that
you know that are involved with
00:27:27.45\00:27:30.33
Twilight. It's very eye-opening
and it points them to
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Jesus Christ. In this
last day and age, what
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we need to be focusing on is
the blood of the Passover lamb,
00:27:37.97\00:27:42.07
the blood that atones for
us. We need to keep our focus on
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Jesus Christ. If you know any
young person who is being sucked
00:27:45.99\00:27:53.11
up into this craze, I pray that
you will share this information
00:27:53.14\00:27:58.47
with them so that they
will not be taken down the wrong
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path. Steve thank you so much
for being with us and concluding
00:28:01.81\00:28:06.78
this two-part series on this.
We appreciate you being here.
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May God richly
bless you. Bye, Bye.
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