Today, we're gonna be looking at questions that God ask us. 00:00:01.98\00:00:04.81 Did you know that He ask us about our Sabbath rest? 00:00:04.82\00:00:08.74 Stay with us, see where this goes. 00:00:08.75\00:00:11.01 Welcome to "Issues and Answers." 00:00:36.18\00:00:37.66 My name is J.D. Quinn. 00:00:37.67\00:00:39.50 Today, we're gonna have a wonderful time with the Lord 00:00:39.51\00:00:42.62 and then we're gonna be talking 00:00:42.63\00:00:43.96 about the questions that God ask us. 00:00:43.97\00:00:46.43 And a person has done a lot of study 00:00:46.44\00:00:48.13 in this arena is Pastor Troy Fitzgerald, 00:00:48.14\00:00:51.40 and I just am glad that you're here with us today, 00:00:51.41\00:00:54.18 we want to welcome you. Thank you J.D, yeah. 00:00:54.19\00:00:56.07 First thing that we want to know, Troy, 00:00:56.08\00:00:57.60 is a little bit about yourself, 00:00:57.61\00:00:58.68 is it okay I call you Troy? 00:00:58.69\00:00:59.99 That's fine, that's what everybody else, 00:01:00.00\00:01:01.67 that's the best thing that most people call me so. 00:01:01.68\00:01:04.03 Amen, amen. Yes. 00:01:04.04\00:01:05.27 Well, tell us who you are? 00:01:05.28\00:01:06.29 Tell us about your family, tell us where you live? 00:01:06.30\00:01:08.34 Tell us what your responsibilities are? 00:01:08.35\00:01:10.74 Just I want to know something about you. 00:01:10.75\00:01:12.14 All right, well, I am the pastor 00:01:12.15\00:01:13.85 for Youth and Young Adult at Walla Walla University Church. 00:01:13.86\00:01:17.84 I've been there 12 years and my wife Julia 00:01:17.85\00:01:21.59 and I have been serving in ministry, 00:01:21.60\00:01:25.85 teaching and pastoral ministry for almost 20 years now. 00:01:25.86\00:01:30.27 And so I have two boys, 00:01:30.28\00:01:33.59 Cameron, who is about 13, 00:01:33.60\00:01:36.44 and Morgan who's 7 going on 8. 00:01:36.45\00:01:41.43 I guess, they're typical boys. 00:01:41.44\00:01:42.93 They like, they probably like sports, they-- 00:01:42.94\00:01:45.54 They're boys, all boys, you know, 00:01:45.55\00:01:48.22 we gotta hose them off outside at the end of the day. 00:01:48.23\00:01:50.38 Amen, amen. Yeah. 00:01:50.39\00:01:53.58 Tell us about your education. 00:01:53.59\00:01:56.40 Well, I started studying just to be a pastor, 00:01:56.41\00:02:00.58 I thought I wanted to be a teacher, a pastor. 00:02:00.59\00:02:03.26 I did my Bachelors in Theology 00:02:03.27\00:02:05.99 and then afterwards, you know, I studied at the Seminary. 00:02:06.00\00:02:10.20 And then I noticed something that was interesting 00:02:10.21\00:02:13.42 and that was the most of the work of a pastor had to do 00:02:13.43\00:02:17.25 with teaching and I didn't know anything about teaching 00:02:17.26\00:02:19.50 and, and teaching and telling teaching and preaching. 00:02:19.51\00:02:24.74 Learning and listening are sometimes 00:02:24.75\00:02:26.50 two different experiences 00:02:26.51\00:02:28.06 and so I looked at Jesus as the master teacher, 00:02:28.07\00:02:32.10 I thought, I need to learn how to teach. 00:02:32.11\00:02:35.40 And so I got my masters in education. Okay. 00:02:35.41\00:02:38.73 So I can learn how to, how to teach and then 00:02:38.74\00:02:42.21 I eventually went on to do my doctorate in leadership. 00:02:42.22\00:02:45.01 Amen, why leadership? 00:02:45.02\00:02:47.50 Just leaders and leadership is one of those elements 00:02:47.51\00:02:53.48 of our culture right now that, 00:02:53.49\00:02:56.62 that are pastoring people thoughts change, 00:02:56.63\00:03:00.89 we need to understand the fundamentals 00:03:00.90\00:03:04.89 of leading people toward change. 00:03:04.90\00:03:07.56 We live in a world that's broken. 00:03:07.57\00:03:10.35 Our world has shifted, the world views of people 00:03:10.36\00:03:13.07 in this world have shifted and we need to understand 00:03:13.08\00:03:15.94 what it's going to take to move a group of people 00:03:15.95\00:03:19.05 from this place into another era. 00:03:19.06\00:03:22.19 And if you're out there 00:03:22.20\00:03:23.29 and thinking now everything is just fine, 00:03:23.30\00:03:25.30 or let's just do things the way we used to do. 00:03:25.31\00:03:28.47 Then you probably don't think leadership is very important. 00:03:28.48\00:03:34.36 But if you're looking for a new day, 00:03:34.37\00:03:37.08 then leadership is one of the primary things 00:03:37.09\00:03:39.48 that we need to be thinking about so, that's why I didn't. 00:03:39.49\00:03:41.97 Amen. Yeah. 00:03:41.98\00:03:43.55 One of the things that this program is about 00:03:43.56\00:03:46.57 questions that God asks. 00:03:46.58\00:03:49.12 And so in your opinion, what is one of the most 00:03:49.13\00:03:52.07 important questions that he ask of us. 00:03:52.08\00:03:54.94 Well that's hard, because I believe that 00:03:54.95\00:03:57.71 throughout scripture all of the questions that God asked 00:03:57.72\00:04:00.92 have some sort of challenge to us 00:04:00.93\00:04:04.35 to either think about what's going on inside 00:04:04.36\00:04:07.49 of our heart or what we're doing in our lives. 00:04:07.50\00:04:09.58 Usually when God asked the question, 00:04:09.59\00:04:12.70 it's usually because He wants us to respond, 00:04:12.71\00:04:16.47 He wants us to think and stop 00:04:16.48\00:04:18.40 and may be do something differently to change. 00:04:18.41\00:04:23.27 So throughout and it's hard to just pick because, 00:04:23.28\00:04:28.19 because so many of the ones 00:04:28.20\00:04:29.49 we have are good and yet, you try and count. 00:04:29.50\00:04:31.88 I mean, I would ask the people in their homes 00:04:31.89\00:04:34.95 they just think about all the questions 00:04:34.96\00:04:36.40 that you can list that God has asked people 00:04:36.41\00:04:38.23 and there hasn't, it's hard to come up with. 00:04:38.24\00:04:40.08 But when you scan through scripture, 00:04:40.09\00:04:41.49 we see God interacting, 00:04:41.50\00:04:43.12 one of the questions that has meant the most to me, 00:04:43.13\00:04:48.47 that's been perhaps the one of the harder ones to answer, 00:04:48.48\00:04:53.05 is the question that Jesus asked people 00:04:53.06\00:04:56.47 in church about Sabbath rest. 00:04:56.48\00:05:01.65 It's one of those awkward moments 00:05:01.66\00:05:06.08 that Jesus is in church 00:05:06.09\00:05:08.41 and if you're a pastor, the one thing you hope 00:05:08.42\00:05:10.96 never happens is somebody stands up 00:05:10.97\00:05:12.94 and causes a scene and breaks the routine. 00:05:12.95\00:05:16.46 And yet Sabbath rest should be the most 00:05:16.47\00:05:20.11 important thing to us because it just, 00:05:20.12\00:05:24.31 because what it means. 00:05:24.32\00:05:26.00 And what does it mean? 00:05:26.01\00:05:27.49 Well, the Sabbath is given to us because, 00:05:27.50\00:05:32.73 if we don't have Sabbath, 00:05:32.74\00:05:34.78 our brokenness just turns to dispirit to the point 00:05:34.79\00:05:37.38 where we forget who we are. 00:05:37.39\00:05:38.55 And we're running, we're a people right now 00:05:38.56\00:05:41.44 that it's running, we're running so hard. 00:05:41.45\00:05:44.10 And right now, you know, people are watching 00:05:44.11\00:05:46.34 or listening, you know, they're exhausted. 00:05:46.35\00:05:49.48 Very few people are gonna raise their hand and say, 00:05:49.49\00:05:52.57 I just feel so rested and ready. Amen. 00:05:52.58\00:05:55.25 I am not, you know, I've got tons of energy 00:05:55.26\00:05:57.30 and I'm ready to go. 00:05:57.31\00:05:59.11 No, that's not it. 00:05:59.12\00:06:00.09 In fact, some of the more recent survey 00:06:00.10\00:06:02.23 show that the people, 66, 67% of people out there 00:06:02.24\00:06:06.82 describe themselves as exhausted or drained, 00:06:06.83\00:06:09.78 over 50% of people have responded 00:06:09.79\00:06:12.97 and said that they feel overwhelmed. 00:06:12.98\00:06:16.86 And I don't think it's getting any better. 00:06:16.87\00:06:19.31 So when -- and maybe it was the same 00:06:19.32\00:06:22.83 back in the days of Christ, maybe, you know, 00:06:22.84\00:06:25.63 people are just as tired as they are now. 00:06:25.64\00:06:28.47 But we have things coming out so fast right now, 00:06:28.48\00:06:31.29 we have the news is on TV, 00:06:31.30\00:06:33.60 we have two faces up on the screen, 00:06:33.61\00:06:35.75 they're arguing back and forth, 00:06:35.76\00:06:37.14 below there is the weather, 00:06:37.15\00:06:38.79 there is a ticker tape of the stock market, 00:06:38.80\00:06:40.88 there's scores and highlights 00:06:40.89\00:06:42.27 and there is what's coming up next. 00:06:42.28\00:06:44.16 It's all coming at us at once all the time, 00:06:44.17\00:06:47.41 we're exhausted. 00:06:47.42\00:06:49.39 But back in the days of Christ, it was simple, 00:06:49.40\00:06:52.79 they didn't have that, but people were still very tired, 00:06:52.80\00:06:56.07 they're not tired necessarily from lack of sleep 00:06:56.08\00:06:59.68 but they're exhausted by trying to run their lives 00:06:59.69\00:07:03.36 in their own brokenness, 00:07:03.37\00:07:05.35 being held captive by their habits 00:07:05.36\00:07:08.16 or by their fears or by loneliness or isolation, 00:07:08.17\00:07:12.45 I mean, people are exhausted just based upon the depression 00:07:12.46\00:07:18.04 that's running through their veins right now. 00:07:18.05\00:07:20.12 So that moment, I think it's in Luke 13, 00:07:20.13\00:07:24.15 where the story is told. 00:07:24.16\00:07:25.83 Where Jesus walks into church and He's there 00:07:25.84\00:07:30.72 and the Bible says that there is a woman 00:07:30.73\00:07:33.47 who had been crippled, bent over for 18 years. 00:07:33.48\00:07:39.74 Eighteen long years and, and they're reading 00:07:39.75\00:07:42.27 and they're singing and they are praying 00:07:42.28\00:07:43.82 and they are doing the stuff and Jesus 00:07:43.83\00:07:46.65 just has his visceral reaction to a woman 00:07:46.66\00:07:50.43 that's been broken, bent over. 00:07:50.44\00:07:53.10 I mean all she has seen. 00:07:53.11\00:07:54.64 You talk about tiring, exhausting, 00:07:54.65\00:07:57.16 all you see are the cobblestones. 00:07:57.17\00:07:59.75 All you see is the garbage in the gutters, 00:07:59.76\00:08:02.82 when you walk to and from home or to the market, 00:08:02.83\00:08:05.81 all you see are the feet, the dirty feet of people, 00:08:05.82\00:08:08.89 you never ever see the sunshine, 00:08:08.90\00:08:12.17 you don't feel it on your face, 00:08:12.18\00:08:13.60 the wind doesn't blow on your cheeks, 00:08:13.61\00:08:16.55 you don't look and listen to the birds singing in the air. 00:08:16.56\00:08:19.98 Those things don't -- aren't a part of your reality, 00:08:19.99\00:08:22.18 you're walking and you're bent over and you're down. 00:08:22.19\00:08:25.56 And that's the way you're bent for 18 years 00:08:25.57\00:08:28.41 and Jesus could not stomach it. 00:08:28.42\00:08:31.55 And so He does something on Sabbath in church 00:08:31.56\00:08:36.90 that well it got the saints a little riled up. 00:08:36.91\00:08:41.53 And He healed her, He just said 00:08:41.54\00:08:44.52 "Woman, you are set free from your infirmity." 00:08:44.53\00:08:49.68 And she stood up. Amen. 00:08:49.69\00:08:51.59 She could see now well, you know, 00:08:51.60\00:08:53.14 how the choir directors tell us to sing. Amen. 00:08:53.15\00:08:55.06 You have to, you know, chin up, mouth wide open, 00:08:55.07\00:08:58.83 she's singing. Amen. 00:08:58.84\00:09:00.60 And the leaders, well they were disrupted by that, 00:09:00.61\00:09:05.36 they didn't like that. 00:09:05.37\00:09:06.71 And Jesus heard them and one of them actually 00:09:06.72\00:09:09.69 stood up and said, no there are six days in which 00:09:09.70\00:09:12.96 and you can just see the fan on six days 00:09:12.97\00:09:15.79 in which you come for healing but on the Sabbath day, 00:09:15.80\00:09:20.16 no healing and Jesus is saying, wait a minute, 00:09:20.17\00:09:22.59 I think I gave you this rule a long time ago 00:09:22.60\00:09:25.33 and it was not, it was, 00:09:25.34\00:09:26.91 it was supposed to be about freedom, 00:09:26.92\00:09:28.72 do you remember the story. 00:09:28.73\00:09:30.90 And so He says, He asked the question and I think 00:09:30.91\00:09:34.47 it's a question not just for that day but for us today. 00:09:34.48\00:09:38.62 He said, isn't it, 00:09:38.63\00:09:40.61 isn't this is what God wants us to do on the Sabbath? 00:09:40.62\00:09:43.64 He says, "This should not this child of Abraham, 00:09:43.65\00:09:48.39 his daughter of Abraham be set free on the Sabbath day." 00:09:48.40\00:09:54.45 Amen. 00:09:54.46\00:09:56.17 And how you are gonna answer that question 00:09:56.18\00:09:58.54 because He invoked something very unique there. 00:09:58.55\00:10:01.48 He called her a daughter of Abraham. 00:10:01.49\00:10:05.26 He says, you are. They understood that. 00:10:05.27\00:10:07.21 Oh yeah, because he pointed out, he says, 00:10:07.22\00:10:09.08 don't you know, you guys not, you untie your dog 00:10:09.09\00:10:12.71 if it's caught tied up around the tree, 00:10:12.72\00:10:14.87 you won't leave it out there. 00:10:14.88\00:10:16.34 If your ox falls into the ditch, 00:10:16.35\00:10:17.92 you'll pull your ox out, 00:10:17.93\00:10:19.37 a dog, an ox, this is not a dog, 00:10:19.38\00:10:22.31 this is not an ox, this is not your pet pig, 00:10:22.32\00:10:24.92 this is a daughter. Amen. 00:10:24.93\00:10:27.74 A princess, a daughter of Abraham and she's bent over 00:10:27.75\00:10:32.31 and you're angry because we set her free on the Sabbath 00:10:32.32\00:10:36.66 don't you even know about rest? 00:10:36.67\00:10:40.04 That's really Jesus' questions. 00:10:40.05\00:10:42.30 Have you not experienced the rest of the Sabbath? 00:10:42.31\00:10:47.52 And that applies to probably a lot of us today. 00:10:47.53\00:10:51.04 You know, a lot of people are very confused. 00:10:51.05\00:10:54.02 Ask the question to yourself today. Yeah. 00:10:54.03\00:10:57.81 Are you whole, or do you feel rested, 00:10:57.82\00:11:01.78 have you experienced the true Sabbath rest 00:11:01.79\00:11:04.39 and it's Adventist that's been in our name, 00:11:04.40\00:11:06.21 it's been a part of our life, our theology for years, 00:11:06.22\00:11:09.71 we know where it came from. 00:11:09.72\00:11:11.76 Well, why is the Sabbath so important? 00:11:11.77\00:11:13.18 It's because it's given to us a creation before sin. Amen. 00:11:13.19\00:11:16.82 We have the Sabbath, 00:11:16.83\00:11:17.84 it's not just a part of God's salvific plan 00:11:17.85\00:11:21.20 this is a part of who we are as humans. 00:11:21.21\00:11:24.08 It's our birthday. 00:11:24.09\00:11:25.86 Your birthday doesn't come around once a year, 00:11:25.87\00:11:27.60 it comes every week where you are reminded 00:11:27.61\00:11:30.74 that you are born again child of God. 00:11:30.75\00:11:34.12 You're made in his image. Amen. 00:11:34.13\00:11:36.24 And if you skip it, if you miss it, 00:11:36.25\00:11:38.20 if you work through it, if you ignore it, 00:11:38.21\00:11:40.96 if you focus all on your own stuff through it, 00:11:40.97\00:11:43.55 you're going to forget who you are. 00:11:43.56\00:11:47.20 And that's one of the reasons why God gave it. 00:11:47.21\00:11:49.61 And you know the example I always give is, 00:11:49.62\00:11:52.35 go to the Old Testament 00:11:52.36\00:11:53.81 when God's people were put into slavery. 00:11:53.82\00:11:56.93 They not only disobeyed God but they just, 00:11:56.94\00:11:59.37 they just fell back into the world 00:11:59.38\00:12:01.51 where they were absorbed by Egypt. 00:12:01.52\00:12:04.63 They started to think like Egypt 00:12:04.64\00:12:06.69 instead of God's children, 00:12:06.70\00:12:08.11 they started to act like Egypt they worship like Egypt 00:12:08.12\00:12:11.32 until their minds were changed 00:12:11.33\00:12:12.81 and they were Egyptians in every sense of the word. 00:12:12.82\00:12:16.28 If there was anything in them, 00:12:16.29\00:12:17.81 it was this story way back in history 00:12:17.82\00:12:20.74 something that they may be remembered 00:12:20.75\00:12:22.71 that their grandparents telling them about Yahweh, 00:12:22.72\00:12:26.91 about the God of Israel. 00:12:26.92\00:12:29.52 And when God delivered them, He brought them out, 00:12:29.53\00:12:33.77 here we have God's people 00:12:33.78\00:12:35.73 out on the sandy shore of the Red Sea. 00:12:35.74\00:12:39.29 You know, they're being told, guess what? 00:12:39.30\00:12:42.91 It's time to meet your God, He's your creator, 00:12:42.92\00:12:45.79 wait a minute, I thought we were created by a cow 00:12:45.80\00:12:50.32 or this golden emblem over here, 00:12:50.33\00:12:52.03 this animal over here, but no, it was God. Amen. 00:12:52.04\00:12:57.58 And they are told the story 00:12:57.59\00:12:59.00 and they're given the laws and the laws, 00:12:59.01\00:13:01.30 six days God created the heavens and the earth, 00:13:01.31\00:13:04.04 He made you and the seventh day He rested 00:13:04.05\00:13:07.72 and that's He sanctified it and He set it aside. 00:13:07.73\00:13:10.75 Not because He wanted to give us a rule, 00:13:10.76\00:13:12.55 not because we needed a day go to church, 00:13:12.56\00:13:14.73 not because you know, 00:13:14.74\00:13:16.02 of all these theological ramifications 00:13:16.03\00:13:18.48 because He knew that if you didn't celebrate your birthday 00:13:18.49\00:13:22.93 you would forget who you are and who you belong to? 00:13:22.94\00:13:27.15 And in the end, where you're going. 00:13:27.16\00:13:29.23 And that's why the law has given a second time, isn't it? 00:13:29.24\00:13:31.87 Because in Deuteronomy, 00:13:31.88\00:13:33.13 we have the same reading of the law 00:13:33.14\00:13:34.99 except there is one little difference to it. 00:13:35.00\00:13:37.75 It says, because I redeemed you, 00:13:37.76\00:13:39.82 because I delivered you from Egypt, 00:13:39.83\00:13:42.60 that's why you have the Sabbath day. 00:13:42.61\00:13:45.15 Celebrate the Sabbath, because don't you know, 00:13:45.16\00:13:47.96 I took you out of Egypt, well who is he saying that to? 00:13:47.97\00:13:51.02 He's saying that to the people who are born in the desert, 00:13:51.03\00:13:53.99 Deuteronomy is written to people 00:13:54.00\00:13:55.52 who are born in the desert. 00:13:55.53\00:13:56.64 No one was there in Egypt. 00:13:56.65\00:13:58.22 They don't know what Egypt looks like? 00:13:58.23\00:14:00.38 They don't know what the plagues were all about? 00:14:00.39\00:14:03.62 They were in the desert and he says you're delivered. 00:14:03.63\00:14:07.43 So two places, in the law that Moses gave, 00:14:07.44\00:14:12.78 you're created by God, don't forget who you are, 00:14:12.79\00:14:15.46 don't forget that birthday. 00:14:15.47\00:14:17.34 You're delivered, you're saved. 00:14:17.35\00:14:19.80 Even though you are born here in the desert, 00:14:19.81\00:14:21.25 all you have known is sand 00:14:21.26\00:14:22.38 and all you have heard about is the Promised Land. 00:14:22.39\00:14:25.14 We're going home, we're going home, we're going home. 00:14:25.15\00:14:27.68 Well, here is why because someone delivered us. 00:14:27.69\00:14:31.55 And that's why in the Book of Hebrews 00:14:31.56\00:14:33.23 it talks about Sabbath rest 00:14:33.24\00:14:35.11 and it's connected with salvation. 00:14:35.12\00:14:37.13 The rest of salvation for your souls, 00:14:37.14\00:14:39.32 I mean people are tired. 00:14:39.33\00:14:41.70 I love that story, 00:14:41.71\00:14:44.41 I love the story of this dog named Tattoo. Great. 00:14:44.42\00:14:49.34 It's a story I read in the Seattle Times I think it was, 00:14:49.35\00:14:53.10 this is owner, Tattoo's owner, you know, 00:14:53.11\00:14:57.63 got in the car and backed up but the leash, 00:14:57.64\00:14:59.83 Tattoo's leash got caught in the door, the back door. 00:14:59.84\00:15:03.44 And Tattoo was spotted chasing after the car 00:15:03.45\00:15:07.53 and there were down some of the back streets, 00:15:07.54\00:15:09.17 but Tattoo was having a hard time keeping up, 00:15:09.18\00:15:12.64 one foot infront of the other and it's a basset hound, 00:15:12.65\00:15:15.04 you know that, they don't go very fast 00:15:15.05\00:15:17.60 and they're not very long legged. 00:15:17.61\00:15:19.45 And Tattoo was trying as hard as he could to keep up. 00:15:19.46\00:15:22.95 One foot in front of the other as fast as 00:15:22.96\00:15:25.05 those little paws could carry him. 00:15:25.06\00:15:27.35 Cop speeds up I think, 00:15:27.36\00:15:28.80 one police saw what was happening 00:15:28.81\00:15:30.29 and caught the dog going up to 20 miles an hour, 00:15:30.30\00:15:32.83 25 miles an hour before he pulled the car 00:15:32.84\00:15:35.90 and the dog over and Tattoo was tired. 00:15:35.91\00:15:38.34 And I think a lot of people 00:15:38.35\00:15:39.41 out there today feel that exhausted. 00:15:39.42\00:15:41.64 Like all they can do is think about one foot 00:15:41.65\00:15:43.76 in front of the other and they're exhausted 00:15:43.77\00:15:46.53 and they don't have a rest, they don't have an identity, 00:15:46.54\00:15:49.11 they don't have a sense of who they are 00:15:49.12\00:15:50.68 and where they're going. 00:15:50.69\00:15:51.81 They don't have that notion of Promised Land. 00:15:51.82\00:15:54.64 They don't know how they're gonna get there 00:15:54.65\00:15:56.29 because they know they're broken. 00:15:56.30\00:15:57.59 They know they're lost. 00:15:57.60\00:15:58.93 And who's gonna save them, who is gonna be their deliver? 00:15:58.94\00:16:01.99 And so they're just running as fast as they can 00:16:02.00\00:16:05.51 and they don't know where they're going. 00:16:05.52\00:16:07.25 They don't know why they're going there, 00:16:07.26\00:16:08.47 they just know that they just gotta move that, 00:16:08.48\00:16:10.38 that foot forward and they're exhausted. 00:16:10.39\00:16:13.64 And that's why in our world today, 00:16:13.65\00:16:16.40 even as it was back in the days of Christ, 00:16:16.41\00:16:19.55 we need the Sabbath rest, 00:16:19.56\00:16:22.15 we need to stop and take a look where we've been. 00:16:22.16\00:16:27.01 And it seems like to me that I'm beginning to notice 00:16:27.02\00:16:30.10 that lots of people are beginning to look 00:16:30.11\00:16:35.20 more at the Saturday Sabbath. 00:16:35.21\00:16:37.33 In fact, I know I thought ten years ago 00:16:37.34\00:16:39.82 I think I picked up a little journal, 00:16:39.83\00:16:42.78 it's called Discipleship Journal 00:16:42.79\00:16:45.32 and in it was a whole series on the Sabbath 00:16:45.33\00:16:49.05 and I looked every word of the article 00:16:49.06\00:16:51.38 all the way down to may be one sentence at the end. 00:16:51.39\00:16:54.23 It sounded like something that I would write 00:16:54.24\00:16:56.03 or one of my professors would write 00:16:56.04\00:16:58.55 or one of my pastors in the Adventist church would write. 00:16:58.56\00:17:02.58 What's going on out right here? 00:17:02.59\00:17:04.05 Book after book after book has been released now 00:17:04.06\00:17:07.92 and that has to do with the Sabbath. 00:17:07.93\00:17:11.28 And it's not just the Adventist, 00:17:11.29\00:17:12.71 they're talking about it, 00:17:12.72\00:17:14.00 we've been talking about for over 150 years 00:17:14.01\00:17:16.44 and we are just going back through history, you know, 00:17:16.45\00:17:20.08 through the 17, 15, 16, 1700s Sabbath was being kept. 00:17:20.09\00:17:23.49 And going back even through the middle ages 00:17:23.50\00:17:25.00 God has had people to be the commandment 00:17:25.01\00:17:27.03 keeping people and have always responded, 00:17:27.04\00:17:29.19 there always been someone staying connected 00:17:29.20\00:17:32.05 to who they are, and where they're going. 00:17:32.06\00:17:34.99 That identity going all the way back to the time of Christ, 00:17:35.00\00:17:38.59 the New Testament Church. 00:17:38.60\00:17:40.87 But of late, I don't know what's causing it? 00:17:40.88\00:17:45.09 And I don't know what the resurgence is, 00:17:45.10\00:17:47.23 all about but I think it has to do with the fact 00:17:47.24\00:17:50.31 that humanity has come to need Sabbath 00:17:50.32\00:17:55.57 from an experiential point of view. 00:17:55.58\00:17:58.42 Theology has been out there for a long time 00:17:58.43\00:18:00.80 but now we just feel tired. 00:18:00.81\00:18:03.82 We feel empty. We feel disconnected. 00:18:03.83\00:18:08.50 We feel like we don't know where we came from. 00:18:08.51\00:18:12.38 We don't know why we matter? 00:18:12.39\00:18:14.95 Why it makes a difference? 00:18:14.96\00:18:16.89 We don't know where we're going. 00:18:16.90\00:18:19.35 We just know that's it's uncertain 00:18:19.36\00:18:20.69 and it's scary for a lot of people. 00:18:20.70\00:18:23.65 And the beauty of that one truth of the Sabbath 00:18:23.66\00:18:27.54 takes us and wraps us up together 00:18:27.55\00:18:29.72 and binds us to God and unmistakable to turn away. 00:18:29.73\00:18:33.89 I just don't want to let go. 00:18:33.90\00:18:34.87 I want to answer that question. 00:18:34.88\00:18:36.40 Why should not we be free, 00:18:36.41\00:18:38.97 set free on the Sabbath, why not? 00:18:38.98\00:18:42.32 Why not celebrate it. 00:18:42.33\00:18:44.45 So that's just one of those questions 00:18:44.46\00:18:46.34 that from week to week I have to ask. Amen. 00:18:46.35\00:18:49.53 And so as one of these youths would come up to you 00:18:49.54\00:18:52.33 and they ask this question 00:18:52.34\00:18:53.51 and I imagine it's gonna become asked more often. 00:18:53.52\00:18:57.55 Yeah. Because people are looking 00:18:57.56\00:18:59.24 for truths right now. Oh. 00:18:59.25\00:19:01.19 So how do handle them, 00:19:01.20\00:19:02.17 they will say what do you do on the Sabbath? 00:19:02.18\00:19:03.68 I mean how can I keep the Sabbath? 00:19:03.69\00:19:05.24 That's true, you know in Deuteronomy, 00:19:05.25\00:19:07.01 it's not just today but in Deuteronomy Chapter 6 verses, 00:19:07.02\00:19:09.77 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, 00:19:09.78\00:19:11.23 and all your soul, all your strength." 00:19:11.24\00:19:13.14 It says in verse 20, 00:19:13.15\00:19:14.62 just read on through that chapter and verse 20, 00:19:14.63\00:19:17.11 in verse 20 it says, that one of these days 00:19:17.12\00:19:19.72 your children are you gonna come up to you and say to you, 00:19:19.73\00:19:22.28 hey, what's up with all these rules and regulations 00:19:22.29\00:19:25.82 and why we have to do this? 00:19:25.83\00:19:27.11 And why can't I do that and why do I do that? 00:19:27.12\00:19:29.62 And you can say, 00:19:29.63\00:19:32.27 'cause the Bible says so, or 'cause God says so. 00:19:32.28\00:19:34.54 Yeah, that answer's too cheap. It's not good enough. 00:19:34.55\00:19:38.75 We have to answer it more fully. 00:19:38.76\00:19:40.36 And the answer that we're told to give in Deuteronomy is 00:19:40.37\00:19:43.14 tell them that you were a slave in Egypt 00:19:43.15\00:19:47.50 and God brought you out with a mighty hand. 00:19:47.51\00:19:49.73 Tell them that, that God delivered you 00:19:49.74\00:19:53.63 as He landed the plagues on Pharaoh. 00:19:53.64\00:19:55.70 Tell them about how the Red Sea parted 00:19:55.71\00:19:58.21 and you walked there on that soft sand 00:19:58.22\00:20:00.43 looking at the fishes, like walls along side of glass. 00:20:00.44\00:20:04.34 Tell them the story of your redemption. 00:20:04.35\00:20:07.56 So when they do ask, that's what scripture tells us, 00:20:07.57\00:20:11.02 tell about the story of your history, your past, 00:20:11.03\00:20:15.24 how you're redeemed, how you were born. 00:20:15.25\00:20:17.35 And then they came up to me 00:20:17.36\00:20:18.87 and I was studying the Bible with them. 00:20:18.88\00:20:21.12 As I was saying, Jeremiah, 00:20:21.13\00:20:24.69 you know, do have any questions about the Sabbath, 00:20:24.70\00:20:27.25 and this young person is very devoted to God. 00:20:27.26\00:20:30.97 But he's very sequential, 00:20:30.98\00:20:32.14 he wants to know exactly 00:20:32.15\00:20:33.65 what there is to do and what not to do. 00:20:33.66\00:20:35.70 And I'm trying to get through to him, 00:20:35.71\00:20:36.68 and said, this is about who you are. 00:20:36.69\00:20:39.75 You get to take what God has said 00:20:39.76\00:20:43.00 and you flesh this out in the best way you can, 00:20:43.01\00:20:45.15 I told him, do good, save lives, 00:20:45.16\00:20:47.86 go and worship, share the gospel, 00:20:47.87\00:20:50.23 there are a million things that Jesus did on the Sabbath. 00:20:50.24\00:20:52.75 Walk through the grain fields with your friends 00:20:52.76\00:20:54.65 and talk about the kingdom, 00:20:54.66\00:20:56.55 be with the people but give yourself, 00:20:56.56\00:20:59.33 liberate people on the Sabbath of their brokenness, 00:20:59.34\00:21:02.23 whatever it may be with a song or a gift of kindness, 00:21:02.24\00:21:05.46 or a word of encouragement. 00:21:05.47\00:21:06.62 It might be a prayer that you pray on their behalf, 00:21:06.63\00:21:08.81 lift them up and they said, 00:21:08.82\00:21:10.25 but, I don't, I want to know what not to do. 00:21:10.26\00:21:14.75 I have to admit I got kind of frustrated with him. 00:21:14.76\00:21:17.94 On my desk there as we were studying, I gave him my best. 00:21:17.95\00:21:21.97 And I said, Jeremiah, grab that bottle of water 00:21:21.98\00:21:24.75 that's sitting there in front of you, and he picked it up. 00:21:24.76\00:21:28.62 And I said, I want you to tell me. 00:21:28.63\00:21:30.74 I'll tell you exactly what not to do, 00:21:30.75\00:21:33.09 I'll give you the longest list 00:21:33.10\00:21:34.54 that you've ever asked for, a long one. 00:21:34.55\00:21:38.03 He said, if you tell me 00:21:38.04\00:21:39.01 what's not in that bottle of water. 00:21:39.02\00:21:42.31 And he looked at me and I said, 00:21:42.32\00:21:44.94 well go ahead and get started, what's not in there? 00:21:44.95\00:21:47.96 Ketchup, chilli. No, no. 00:21:47.97\00:21:50.89 Bread, is there you know, is there lettuce in water. 00:21:50.90\00:21:57.63 Go ahead, let's just start making a list. 00:21:57.64\00:21:59.90 And he threw his head back, 00:21:59.91\00:22:00.90 he says that would take forever. 00:22:00.91\00:22:03.63 I said, I think that's what Jesus was getting at. 00:22:03.64\00:22:06.58 There are a million things that you can focus on 00:22:06.59\00:22:09.59 about what not to do on the Sabbath, 00:22:09.60\00:22:11.80 that's not why he, he gave you the Sabbath to avoid things. 00:22:11.81\00:22:15.84 The Sabbath in Mark 2 verse 26, 27 says, 00:22:15.85\00:22:20.58 "The Sabbath is a gift for you." Amen. 00:22:20.59\00:22:24.50 So remember who you are, where you come from. 00:22:24.51\00:22:28.38 You're not made to keep this, that's not why I created you. 00:22:28.39\00:22:32.57 The Sabbath came after I made you, 00:22:32.58\00:22:34.71 it's the present, it's your birthday cake. 00:22:34.72\00:22:37.86 This is the thing that you embrace and experience 00:22:37.87\00:22:40.97 so that you never ever, never forget who you are, 00:22:40.98\00:22:47.60 who you belong to and where you're going. 00:22:47.61\00:22:50.89 And--How did he respond? 00:22:50.90\00:22:53.90 Well, it took a while but he started to get it. 00:22:53.91\00:22:57.66 And I have to admit later I just, as I talked with him, 00:22:57.67\00:23:01.03 I baptized Jeremiah and he's a full on believer in Christ. 00:23:01.04\00:23:05.95 But one of the things that he's doing 00:23:05.96\00:23:07.20 and he's gonna have to do. 00:23:07.21\00:23:08.93 And he's gonna have to answer the question. 00:23:08.94\00:23:11.82 So how should I live this day out? 00:23:11.83\00:23:16.94 How should I be and who should I be about on this day? 00:23:16.95\00:23:20.76 One of the things that Christ would tell us 00:23:20.77\00:23:23.15 I'm just by his example in scripture. 00:23:23.16\00:23:27.19 Is to be about doing good 00:23:27.20\00:23:30.95 Be about giving what Jesus 00:23:30.96\00:23:34.02 calls a cup of cool water to someone. 00:23:34.03\00:23:36.13 You want to experience rest, 00:23:36.14\00:23:38.18 release people from their bondage. 00:23:38.19\00:23:41.56 We get, we get thrown into bondage lots of ways, 00:23:41.57\00:23:44.49 there are people who are just fully depressed 00:23:44.50\00:23:47.16 and they're out there, 00:23:47.17\00:23:48.44 many of them are gonna be watching 00:23:48.45\00:23:50.62 and they need to know that there's freedom. Amen. 00:23:50.63\00:23:54.46 There is a rest, 00:23:54.47\00:23:56.22 there is a rest from your loneliness because if, 00:23:56.23\00:23:58.80 if you're alone you'll be kept up awake all the time. 00:23:58.81\00:24:03.47 And it eats away and pulls at you. 00:24:03.48\00:24:06.50 There's a rest from your loneliness, 00:24:06.51\00:24:08.20 there is a God who remembers you, 00:24:08.21\00:24:10.36 who knows you, who wants to abide with you. 00:24:10.37\00:24:13.41 And if you get so busy during the course of the week, 00:24:13.42\00:24:16.36 He is giving you a day to stop and have a piece of cake. 00:24:16.37\00:24:22.33 Have a birthday, remember who you belong to. 00:24:22.34\00:24:26.00 And there are people who are just going through 00:24:26.01\00:24:27.98 unthinkable tragedy and uncertainty. 00:24:27.99\00:24:32.64 They don't know where the, 00:24:32.65\00:24:34.47 the next check is gonna come from. 00:24:34.48\00:24:35.87 They don't know how they're gonna keep the lights on. 00:24:35.88\00:24:38.57 There are people around the world that don't know 00:24:38.58\00:24:40.71 where their next meal is coming from. 00:24:40.72\00:24:43.88 They're worried about family and friends. 00:24:43.89\00:24:46.79 They are many out there today who just worry 00:24:46.80\00:24:51.92 about all of their lost friends and family. 00:24:51.93\00:24:56.03 And there's so much uncertainty, 00:24:56.04\00:24:57.88 they need the rest, we all do. 00:24:57.89\00:25:02.43 And there are those people 00:25:02.44\00:25:03.85 who are just working day and night, 00:25:03.86\00:25:05.73 whether it be for the gospel or for their own cause. 00:25:05.74\00:25:08.63 And that was one of the reasons 00:25:08.64\00:25:09.74 why I think God gave us the Sabbath, 00:25:09.75\00:25:12.42 it's because He made us to be workers. 00:25:12.43\00:25:14.67 And the whole idea of work came before sin too, 00:25:14.68\00:25:17.67 you know, work this earth, you gotta struggle with, 00:25:17.68\00:25:20.31 you're gonna, you're gonna plant and it's gonna grow, 00:25:20.32\00:25:22.49 then you have to work it out, you're gonna be tired, 00:25:22.50\00:25:25.44 He made us that way. 00:25:25.45\00:25:28.14 But the one thing I think God must have been afraid of 00:25:28.15\00:25:32.33 is that one day, if we forget who we are, 00:25:32.34\00:25:36.33 we'll define ourselves by what we do? 00:25:36.34\00:25:40.18 And there is nothing better than 00:25:40.19\00:25:41.53 going to a birthday party because it's always fun. 00:25:41.54\00:25:44.65 And if we could have a birthday party once a week, 00:25:44.66\00:25:47.15 if we can truly get that concept down 00:25:47.16\00:25:50.23 that we're with our brothers and our sisters, 00:25:50.24\00:25:52.06 we're with our favorite people. Yeah. 00:25:52.07\00:25:54.41 And we're getting to share something special. 00:25:54.42\00:25:57.00 And there is this celebration of who you are. 00:25:57.01\00:26:01.45 And there is no narratorial thing 00:26:01.46\00:26:03.30 going on in a birthday party, 00:26:03.31\00:26:04.83 we don't standup and list off the achievements 00:26:04.84\00:26:08.98 of our six-year-old daughter. 00:26:08.99\00:26:11.15 You did this and you did that, 00:26:11.16\00:26:12.95 what do we remember at the birthday? 00:26:12.96\00:26:16.83 Remember, we think about them or we'll bring out pictures. 00:26:16.84\00:26:20.80 And when we fold our hands and we pray 00:26:20.81\00:26:23.04 whether is cake in presence and food and friends 00:26:23.05\00:26:25.82 and hats and candles and all kinds of things. 00:26:25.83\00:26:28.35 We stop and we pray the prayer. 00:26:28.36\00:26:31.47 God, thank you that Susan was born. Amen. 00:26:31.48\00:26:36.92 That we received this gift from you, this gift of life. 00:26:36.93\00:26:41.83 And that's what we pray for. Amen. 00:26:41.84\00:26:44.50 And that's what we pray about, think about that, you know, 00:26:44.51\00:26:47.14 we don't go down the badges and the trophies, 00:26:47.15\00:26:49.73 the accomplishments, you were born. 00:26:49.74\00:26:52.17 The same is true for God's people, 00:26:52.18\00:26:53.73 we're born of God in His image, created after Him, 00:26:53.74\00:26:59.21 intended for a purpose. 00:26:59.22\00:27:01.34 Go in a direction, we got off track, 00:27:01.35\00:27:03.77 Sabbath is meant to keep us back on track 00:27:03.78\00:27:06.05 to who we were and who we-- 00:27:06.06\00:27:08.28 where we belong and where we're going. 00:27:08.29\00:27:10.42 And I would just invite people today to answer that question. 00:27:10.43\00:27:16.26 Is it not for you, does Jesus not say to you today, 00:27:16.27\00:27:21.38 you were made for something greater. 00:27:21.39\00:27:24.25 Don't you want to be set free? 00:27:24.26\00:27:26.38 Don't you want to have that Sabbath rest? 00:27:26.39\00:27:28.64 Amen, amen, well, as you can see, 00:27:28.65\00:27:33.33 we're running out of time again. 00:27:33.34\00:27:36.73 This is such a wonderful, such a wonderful topic 00:27:36.74\00:27:40.77 because we all need that rest and yes, 00:27:40.78\00:27:43.63 indeed, we're all running so fast. 00:27:43.64\00:27:46.06 But I just want to thank you for being here today, 00:27:46.07\00:27:49.22 'cause this is just, 00:27:49.23\00:27:50.71 you've got a good grasp of this. Thank you. 00:27:50.72\00:27:52.67 And I know that if I had been a youth, 00:27:52.68\00:27:54.73 I would love to had a youth pastor like you. 00:27:54.74\00:27:57.62 Thank you, that's kind. 00:27:57.63\00:27:59.69 I just want to thank each one of you 00:27:59.70\00:28:01.37 for being with us today on "Issues and Answers." 00:28:01.38\00:28:04.18 You know how special you are to us here at 3ABN. 00:28:04.19\00:28:06.91 We love each and every one of you 00:28:06.92\00:28:08.85 and we wish you only the best. 00:28:08.86\00:28:10.44