There are many people today 00:00:01.98\00:00:02.95 who are following an aberrant, 00:00:02.96\00:00:05.15 unhappy lifestyle, looking for happiness 00:00:05.16\00:00:09.28 in all the wrong places. 00:00:09.29\00:00:11.71 But God wants them to hear His voice, 00:00:11.72\00:00:14.39 He has a better plan for them. 00:00:14.40\00:00:17.21 We have someone here with us today 00:00:17.22\00:00:19.32 from Las Vegas, Nevada, 00:00:19.33\00:00:21.33 I know that you're gonna be blessed 00:00:21.34\00:00:22.77 and you'll want to hear him. 00:00:22.78\00:00:23.75 We'll be right back. 00:00:23.76\00:00:24.99 Welcome to Issues and Answers. 00:00:49.63\00:00:52.29 Today, we'd like to focus on what we do, 00:00:52.30\00:00:55.75 how we think, how we feel 00:00:55.76\00:00:58.03 about reaching out to people around us, 00:00:58.04\00:01:00.46 who have different lifestyle choices than ours. 00:01:00.47\00:01:03.78 When you think of people who are openly following 00:01:03.79\00:01:07.51 a gay lifestyle, or lesbian, or prostitution, 00:01:07.52\00:01:12.78 or alcohol, gambling, drugs, 00:01:12.79\00:01:17.87 these are things that you want to deny. 00:01:17.88\00:01:20.97 You want to say, that doesn't happen in our family, 00:01:20.98\00:01:23.85 that doesn't happen in our city, in our church. 00:01:23.86\00:01:27.09 We don't know of anybody who is living like that. 00:01:27.10\00:01:30.31 Oh, yes, we do. 00:01:30.32\00:01:32.23 This probably touches every family in someway. 00:01:32.24\00:01:36.88 Every family has someone that fits that category, 00:01:36.89\00:01:40.70 that that qualification or some close friend. 00:01:40.71\00:01:45.82 There are people all around us 00:01:45.83\00:01:48.27 who are struggling with these habits and lifestyles. 00:01:48.28\00:01:51.35 And it really is important to us as Christians 00:01:52.61\00:01:57.30 to look within and decide how do I feel 00:01:57.31\00:02:01.75 about working with people like this? 00:02:01.76\00:02:03.78 Can I welcome them into my heart, 00:02:03.79\00:02:05.98 into my home, into my church? 00:02:05.99\00:02:08.36 How can I be of help in their life? 00:02:08.37\00:02:10.08 In Psalm 26, it says, 00:02:11.30\00:02:13.29 "Redeem me and be merciful to me. 00:02:13.30\00:02:16.18 My foot stands in an even place, 00:02:16.19\00:02:18.41 in the congregations I will bless the Lord." 00:02:18.42\00:02:21.74 I believe God is saying, 00:02:21.75\00:02:23.05 "I want all of the people created in my image 00:02:23.06\00:02:27.12 to hear my voice, I want everyone 00:02:27.13\00:02:29.65 to have an opportunity for salvation." 00:02:29.66\00:02:32.78 Our guest today is a dear friend, 00:02:32.79\00:02:36.34 Pastor Peter Neri. Thank you for being here. 00:02:36.35\00:02:39.14 And Peter is a pastor 00:02:39.15\00:02:42.55 of the Paradise Seventh-day Adventist Church 00:02:42.56\00:02:44.87 in Las Vegas, Nevada. 00:02:44.88\00:02:47.20 The city that they proudly call 'Sin City.' 00:02:47.21\00:02:50.11 Sin City, that's right, 00:02:50.12\00:02:52.39 that's where we're from, believe it or not. 00:02:52.40\00:02:55.09 Describe the city to us, 00:02:55.10\00:02:56.85 I was appalled, Peter. 00:02:56.86\00:02:59.24 The first time I got off the airport, 00:02:59.25\00:03:01.42 I mean, at the air, got off the plane at the airport, 00:03:01.43\00:03:04.24 the first thing you see, you're surrounded 00:03:04.25\00:03:06.77 by one armed bandits they call them, 00:03:06.78\00:03:09.66 you feel like you're in a casino. 00:03:09.67\00:03:12.56 Gambling everywhere. 00:03:12.57\00:03:13.89 It's pretty prevalent not to mention, 00:03:13.90\00:03:16.73 Ruthie, the billboards everywhere 00:03:16.74\00:03:18.72 and even the neon moving images 00:03:18.73\00:03:23.23 in the baggage claim area showing revealing shots 00:03:23.24\00:03:27.85 of all different kinds. 00:03:27.86\00:03:29.64 Pornography. It's incredible, yes. 00:03:29.65\00:03:32.38 Yes, you can't even get out of the airport. 00:03:32.39\00:03:35.65 And it's amazing, because you think, 00:03:35.66\00:03:38.85 "Well, I'm gonna pick up some groceries." 00:03:38.86\00:03:41.36 You can't go to a grocery store, 00:03:41.37\00:03:43.57 because gambling is there and-- 00:03:43.58\00:03:46.69 The gas stations. Every service station. 00:03:46.70\00:03:49.69 This is a city of gambling. It is. 00:03:49.70\00:03:52.75 And vice of all kinds, sin of all kinds. 00:03:52.76\00:03:56.74 This is why people proudly advertised that as Sin City. 00:03:56.75\00:04:01.07 Sin City, yeah. And someone was telling us, 00:04:01.08\00:04:04.42 I was talking to Benn, one of the camera men here 00:04:04.43\00:04:07.72 just before we started this. 00:04:07.73\00:04:10.37 And he said, when he was in Las Vegas recently, 00:04:10.38\00:04:14.25 walking down the street, 00:04:14.26\00:04:15.80 he looked at the faces of people 00:04:15.81\00:04:18.43 and he did not see happiness. 00:04:18.44\00:04:21.24 Maybe some people had lost their last money 00:04:21.25\00:04:25.12 in gambling or were coming to the city for a divorce, 00:04:25.13\00:04:30.37 or you know, all kinds of tragedies 00:04:30.38\00:04:34.54 because of those lifestyles. 00:04:34.55\00:04:36.81 It's a very prevalent thing in Las Vegas, 00:04:36.82\00:04:43.35 and the sadness, and the degradation is very obvious 00:04:43.36\00:04:47.82 and that's why we're there, 00:04:47.83\00:04:49.14 we're there because we need to reach these people 00:04:49.15\00:04:52.78 and we're working on that. 00:04:52.79\00:04:54.96 And you know, Peter, you said that, 00:04:54.97\00:04:56.68 you actually have people walking into your church 00:04:56.69\00:04:59.68 who have said, I have seen the Lord, 00:04:59.69\00:05:03.63 I've seen the gospel on 3ABN, 00:05:03.64\00:05:07.09 and I have found hope, 00:05:07.10\00:05:09.59 and so I want to come and worship with you. 00:05:09.60\00:05:11.72 It's amazing, it happens almost, 00:05:11.73\00:05:15.32 if, every Sabbath. Wow! 00:05:15.33\00:05:18.92 We have somebody come in and they had, 00:05:18.93\00:05:21.10 had not been there before. 00:05:21.11\00:05:23.05 Have you gone to the Bellagio or the Wynn 00:05:23.06\00:05:26.89 or some of those huge places 00:05:26.90\00:05:29.17 that are multi million dollar structures, 00:05:29.18\00:05:32.94 just to try to meet people and to share the gospel 00:05:34.85\00:05:39.17 or to pray with people, 00:05:39.18\00:05:40.78 how do you minister in Las Vegas? 00:05:40.79\00:05:43.94 Well, we're, the first thing we're doing is 00:05:43.95\00:05:47.64 we're opening our arms to those who walk in the doors, 00:05:47.65\00:05:52.10 we were starting there, that first initial contact 00:05:52.11\00:05:56.88 is absolutely essential that the people know 00:05:56.89\00:05:59.30 they're in a safe place where they're not gonna be judged. 00:05:59.31\00:06:03.46 And yes, I've been down there, 00:06:03.47\00:06:07.29 we go down and we were in the preliminary stages, 00:06:07.30\00:06:10.76 I should say, of checking it out, 00:06:10.77\00:06:12.53 and we've seen what Benn mentioned, 00:06:12.54\00:06:14.99 the unhappiness that's there. 00:06:15.00\00:06:17.48 And we're trying to figure out 00:06:17.49\00:06:18.77 how exactly to get in 00:06:18.78\00:06:20.52 and we're working on that right now 00:06:20.53\00:06:22.74 and that's gonna happen shortly. 00:06:22.75\00:06:24.63 Tell me about, is it a deacon? 00:06:24.64\00:06:26.56 Yes. Tell me about him. 00:06:28.20\00:06:29.65 Okay, one of my deacons is a man 00:06:29.66\00:06:35.43 who used to drive a limo. 00:06:35.44\00:06:39.47 And of course, he's had some very famous people 00:06:39.48\00:06:42.02 that he's picked up at the airport 00:06:42.03\00:06:43.36 and he drives from one casino to the other. 00:06:43.37\00:06:45.56 And of course, he goes 00:06:45.57\00:06:48.15 to a farther away city called Pahrump, 00:06:48.16\00:06:53.39 about a half hour from Las Vegas, 00:06:53.40\00:06:55.31 where they have those legal houses of prostitution there. 00:06:55.32\00:07:00.61 And all the whole bowl of waxes, drugs, alcohol, 00:07:00.62\00:07:04.67 all of that goes together even for the limo drivers. 00:07:04.68\00:07:09.06 And in his absolute lowest point of his life, 00:07:09.07\00:07:15.53 he found 3ABN. 00:07:15.54\00:07:17.87 3ABN on the UHF Station in Las Vegas, 00:07:17.88\00:07:22.49 that the Paradise Church and some of the other 00:07:22.50\00:07:26.19 Adventist Churches there downlink. 00:07:26.20\00:07:29.38 And he found the hope that he needed, 00:07:29.39\00:07:34.69 he found the encouragement that he wanted, 00:07:34.70\00:07:38.54 and he found the power necessary 00:07:38.55\00:07:41.19 to change his life. Amen. 00:07:41.20\00:07:43.67 And now he is one of my most active members. 00:07:43.68\00:07:49.38 In fact, when he's in-charge 00:07:49.39\00:07:51.19 of the food bank that we have. 00:07:51.20\00:07:53.71 When anytime anybody wants food 00:07:53.72\00:07:56.87 he will drop whatever he is doing, 00:07:56.88\00:07:58.50 he comes to the church, he helps them out. 00:07:58.51\00:08:00.48 Why does he do that? 00:08:00.49\00:08:02.14 Because he found the hope in help through Jesus 00:08:02.15\00:08:07.94 and you should hear Him talk to those people. 00:08:07.95\00:08:10.05 Oh, and He knows 00:08:10.06\00:08:11.85 what does like to be on the other side. 00:08:11.86\00:08:13.49 He does, and He wants them to know, 00:08:13.50\00:08:15.78 what he now knows. 00:08:15.79\00:08:17.06 He wants them to experience 00:08:17.07\00:08:18.60 what he experienced. 00:08:18.61\00:08:21.40 You do a lot with food for the homeless don't you? 00:08:21.41\00:08:24.39 Yeah, and also every Sabbath afternoon 00:08:24.40\00:08:26.72 we have a group that goes out, 00:08:26.73\00:08:28.16 one of my other elders heads that up 00:08:28.17\00:08:31.87 who used to be in the board walk, 00:08:31.88\00:08:34.43 down in Atlantic City, is a pretty wild guy. 00:08:34.44\00:08:38.31 Isn't that interesting? 00:08:38.32\00:08:39.53 And he found through 3ABN 00:08:39.54\00:08:41.45 the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:08:41.46\00:08:44.23 He had moved to Las Vegas, 00:08:44.24\00:08:45.73 now, he's one of my elders and he's in-charge 00:08:45.74\00:08:48.33 of going out feeding the homeless, 00:08:48.34\00:08:50.15 the group that goes out every single Sabbath 00:08:50.16\00:08:52.35 to feed the homeless on the street. 00:08:52.36\00:08:54.52 And they bring their literature, 00:08:54.53\00:08:56.34 they talk with the people, they pray with the people. 00:08:56.35\00:08:59.56 It is so exciting to see the tears come to their eyes. 00:08:59.57\00:09:02.92 They're looking for hope, Ruthie, 00:09:04.53\00:09:06.66 and just to be present there and to bring 00:09:06.67\00:09:10.74 a kind word to them, it just sort of revives them again. 00:09:10.75\00:09:15.69 We talk to them about, 00:09:15.70\00:09:17.47 where you're at right now, what's going on, 00:09:17.48\00:09:19.70 we make suggestions on things 00:09:19.71\00:09:23.00 that could maybe help the next step 00:09:23.01\00:09:24.69 you could take to get off the street if necessary. 00:09:24.70\00:09:28.54 It's just not only amazing but to be part of it 00:09:28.55\00:09:33.03 is one of the greatest joys. 00:09:33.04\00:09:35.73 Tell me about this deacon that is going to be, 00:09:35.74\00:09:38.86 is he on the police staff? 00:09:38.87\00:09:40.60 No, he's not a deacon. Okay. 00:09:40.61\00:09:43.34 I have an officer in the Las Vegas Police Department, 00:09:43.35\00:09:49.85 whose wife is a member and he's coming to church, 00:09:49.86\00:09:53.72 and he is very interested in the church, 00:09:53.73\00:09:56.09 he himself is not a Seventh-day Adventist. 00:09:56.10\00:09:59.09 And he's on the Vice Squad, 00:09:59.10\00:10:02.26 and his wife tells me the stories of how he feels 00:10:02.27\00:10:09.14 when he makes a bust down in the strip that's, 00:10:09.15\00:10:12.01 that is their job, to go down there 00:10:12.02\00:10:14.41 and to make a bust and they get these 00:10:14.42\00:10:17.80 13, 14, 15-year-old young girls 00:10:17.81\00:10:23.77 that have been prostituted by running away from home, 00:10:23.78\00:10:29.44 they're contacted by certain individuals 00:10:29.45\00:10:33.96 who then usually get them involved in drugs. 00:10:33.97\00:10:37.66 Methamphetamine. Methamphetamine, 00:10:37.67\00:10:39.88 is the main drug. 00:10:39.89\00:10:41.04 yes, and once they're into that, 00:10:41.05\00:10:43.54 they easily transfer them 00:10:43.55\00:10:45.24 into the sex trade and they become slaves. 00:10:45.25\00:10:49.06 And by the way, 00:10:49.07\00:10:50.69 when they share their money with this man, 00:10:50.70\00:10:55.22 the bulk of their money goes to him. 00:10:55.23\00:10:57.35 Sure, yeah. Not to her, and so this-- 00:10:57.36\00:11:01.78 In fact, if I'm not wrong, 00:11:01.79\00:11:03.76 she barely has enough for food and clothing. 00:11:03.77\00:11:08.82 But she does, they give her enough, 00:11:08.83\00:11:10.64 I think to her Methamphetamine 00:11:10.65\00:11:12.47 to keep her going. 00:11:12.48\00:11:14.21 And what a sad life. 00:11:14.22\00:11:16.11 And you know, you see pictures of these girls, 00:11:16.12\00:11:19.56 beautiful, wholesome, healthy. Oh, yes. 00:11:19.57\00:11:22.53 Young girls, and then just a few years later 00:11:22.54\00:11:26.28 they look like they're 50 and 60, 00:11:26.29\00:11:28.07 because Meth will do that, 00:11:28.08\00:11:30.26 changes the color of their hair, 00:11:30.27\00:11:31.96 they lose their teeth, it's just a horrible life, 00:11:31.97\00:11:36.25 and their life is over really as far as emotionally 00:11:36.26\00:11:40.41 and physically, their health is gone, 00:11:40.42\00:11:43.34 it's a very sad choice that they make. 00:11:43.35\00:11:47.41 It really is, it's very sad. 00:11:47.42\00:11:49.48 And of course, we know that Jesus 00:11:49.49\00:11:51.85 is the only answer, the only solution, 00:11:51.86\00:11:55.84 the only power available to them to get them off that. 00:11:55.85\00:11:59.71 And that's why I'm so interested, 00:11:59.72\00:12:02.88 because I'm now in communication 00:12:02.89\00:12:04.77 with a Police Officer, and it looks like 00:12:04.78\00:12:08.48 it's very likely that I will now be part of his group 00:12:08.49\00:12:13.62 as a Chaplin, sort to speak. 00:12:13.63\00:12:16.33 And then I can get involved after the bust is over 00:12:16.34\00:12:20.90 and try to help these individuals 00:12:20.91\00:12:23.51 that they arrest to get back on their feet 00:12:23.52\00:12:26.20 and to hear this wonderful message. 00:12:26.21\00:12:28.01 Now, are they arresting the girls, 00:12:28.02\00:12:30.57 or they arresting the pimps or both? 00:12:30.58\00:12:33.14 They're actually targeting the girls 00:12:33.15\00:12:36.64 in order to figure out who the pimps are. 00:12:36.65\00:12:39.19 Okay. They want to help the girls. 00:12:39.20\00:12:42.10 Sure. But they want to get the pimps. 00:12:42.11\00:12:44.85 And so that's how they do it, 00:12:44.86\00:12:48.48 and I'll tell you, he, to hear the stories, 00:12:48.49\00:12:55.43 he'll, his wife told me, he calls home 00:12:55.44\00:12:59.25 and the first thing he asks, is where is my daughter? 00:12:59.26\00:13:03.58 How old does their daughter? 00:13:04.82\00:13:06.03 Sixteen. Oh! 00:13:06.04\00:13:08.18 And, honey, she is at home, she is at home, 00:13:08.19\00:13:12.37 she knows exactly why he called, 00:13:12.38\00:13:14.11 she knows exactly what he's feeling. 00:13:14.12\00:13:16.12 But he's so torn up. 00:13:16.13\00:13:17.25 He's torn up, he is torn up. 00:13:17.26\00:13:19.36 And so, and by the way, that's why 00:13:19.37\00:13:21.40 I would like to get involved with them, 00:13:21.41\00:13:23.17 if nothing else, to help the officers 00:13:23.18\00:13:25.90 that have to deal with this every single night. 00:13:25.91\00:13:29.19 I can't imagine how they feel dealing with this. 00:13:29.20\00:13:32.30 Got to be devastating. Oh, yeah. 00:13:32.31\00:13:34.30 And also the disappointment he told me, 00:13:36.19\00:13:38.89 when after they make a successful bust 00:13:38.90\00:13:41.45 and they transfer the girl over to a safe place 00:13:41.46\00:13:45.16 to find her back on the street two weeks later, 00:13:45.17\00:13:48.37 because she didn't know 00:13:48.38\00:13:49.35 what else to do, and where else to go. 00:13:49.36\00:13:50.98 And if she doesn't have some help 00:13:50.99\00:13:53.02 to get off the drugs. Right. 00:13:53.03\00:13:55.30 She's going to go back to get money 00:13:55.31\00:13:57.35 for the drug habit. 00:13:57.36\00:13:58.72 Yeah, and that's what we're hoping 00:13:58.73\00:14:01.16 that I can get involved now, 00:14:01.17\00:14:02.99 get some of my church members involved, 00:14:03.00\00:14:04.85 two have already volunteered. 00:14:04.86\00:14:06.69 And we're gonna start networking to see 00:14:06.70\00:14:08.53 if we can take the necessary steps to provide 00:14:08.54\00:14:10.97 all the needed things for these girls to get off. 00:14:10.98\00:14:14.29 And you know what, Ruthie, I got to say this, 00:14:14.30\00:14:17.28 it's difficult as it is for me to say this, 00:14:17.29\00:14:21.95 we also have to figure out how to help the pimp. 00:14:21.96\00:14:26.15 I can't imagine that Jesus loves the pimp 00:14:26.16\00:14:28.77 just as much as He loves me but it's true. 00:14:28.78\00:14:32.24 And they deserve to know the hope and help. 00:14:32.25\00:14:35.64 They have gotten into that lifestyle. Yes. 00:14:35.65\00:14:37.91 Because of something in their background, 00:14:37.92\00:14:40.36 sometimes, they grow up in very dysfunctional homes 00:14:40.37\00:14:44.40 and they're treated like they have no worth. 00:14:44.41\00:14:47.35 Someone said that, many of the people 00:14:47.36\00:14:50.52 who are in the penitentiary were told, 00:14:50.53\00:14:53.45 and I think, it's something like 50 or 60% of the people 00:14:53.46\00:14:57.69 who are there were told by their parents 00:14:57.70\00:15:00.73 one or both parents, you are worthless, 00:15:00.74\00:15:03.67 you're trash, you are gonna just end up 00:15:03.68\00:15:06.29 in the penitentiary someday. 00:15:06.30\00:15:08.73 Well, when the child hears that. 00:15:08.74\00:15:10.42 Self fulfilling prophecy. 00:15:10.43\00:15:11.85 That's right. When a child hears that, 00:15:11.86\00:15:15.17 parents get what they expect. 00:15:15.18\00:15:17.56 And that kind of thing is so damaging, so destructive. 00:15:17.57\00:15:22.17 I don't know, if you were with us, 00:15:22.18\00:15:24.48 but this was several years ago 00:15:24.49\00:15:25.90 before you went to Las Vegas. 00:15:25.91\00:15:29.69 The National Prayer Committee was in Las Vegas. 00:15:29.70\00:15:33.44 Oh, yes, I remembered, yes, 00:15:33.45\00:15:35.65 they had one of their meetings there. 00:15:35.66\00:15:37.43 Yes, and we held the meetings 00:15:37.44\00:15:41.36 in one of the large churches in Las Vegas. 00:15:41.37\00:15:43.59 And the pastor was telling us 00:15:43.60\00:15:45.18 that a woman was driving home 00:15:45.19\00:15:49.40 to her apartment one evening, 00:15:49.41\00:15:51.74 and she was a prostitute, 00:15:51.75\00:15:54.85 she had $700 in her purse, 00:15:54.86\00:15:58.64 she was driving home and she saw, 00:15:58.65\00:16:00.65 it may have been a Wednesday night. 00:16:00.66\00:16:02.51 She had to come up this hill, and pass this large church 00:16:02.52\00:16:05.58 and there were a lot of cars in the parking lot, 00:16:05.59\00:16:08.61 the light in the church was on. 00:16:08.62\00:16:10.72 And something just spoke to her heart and said, 00:16:10.73\00:16:13.99 pull in here and see what's going on in this place. 00:16:14.00\00:16:17.01 You need something that you don't have. 00:16:17.02\00:16:20.19 And she walked into the church, 00:16:20.20\00:16:22.51 stayed there for the prayer meeting. 00:16:22.52\00:16:25.53 And went forward at the end and told the pastor, 00:16:25.54\00:16:28.34 I just need to have you pray for me, 00:16:28.35\00:16:30.27 I'm a very unhappy and worthless woman. 00:16:30.28\00:16:34.52 But she said, "I have $700 00:16:34.53\00:16:36.38 and I just want to give that here as my offering." 00:16:36.39\00:16:40.63 And they prayed with her, she found the Lord, 00:16:40.64\00:16:45.23 the Lord found her and she now 00:16:45.24\00:16:48.89 is one of the people working in the church, 00:16:48.90\00:16:52.58 it showed, they showed a picture 00:16:52.59\00:16:54.59 of her standing beside people 00:16:54.60\00:16:57.38 when they're baptized. Oh yeah. 00:16:57.39\00:16:59.46 That because she shares her hope, 00:16:59.47\00:17:02.17 and her experience, and tells them, 00:17:02.18\00:17:04.35 this is real, God can do anything. 00:17:04.36\00:17:07.38 And this is really the message 00:17:07.39\00:17:08.85 that people are dying to hear. 00:17:08.86\00:17:11.45 Yeah, it is, and, and you know, I'm sure 00:17:11.46\00:17:13.32 as our listeners are listening to you right now, 00:17:13.33\00:17:16.91 they're saying, "Well, 00:17:16.92\00:17:17.89 I've never had that experience, 00:17:17.90\00:17:19.62 so I really can't do anything about it." 00:17:19.63\00:17:23.54 But the truth is that if you know Jesus Christ you can. 00:17:23.55\00:17:27.68 That's right. They need a word of encouragement. 00:17:27.69\00:17:30.59 That's right. And God will give you the words to speak, 00:17:30.60\00:17:33.67 we've got to get out there where they're at. 00:17:33.68\00:17:37.02 And not shun them. 00:17:37.03\00:17:38.20 And not shun them, 00:17:38.21\00:17:39.37 we've got to come into contact with them, 00:17:39.38\00:17:40.87 that's what we're doing. 00:17:40.88\00:17:42.17 The human, that's wonderful. 00:17:42.18\00:17:43.80 The human nature, you know, 00:17:43.81\00:17:46.18 our own human nature says, walk away, 00:17:46.19\00:17:52.11 don't get dirty, those people are trash. 00:17:52.12\00:17:55.97 Really, that's what our fallen nature tells us, 00:17:55.98\00:18:01.31 don't associate with people 00:18:01.32\00:18:03.09 you will become like them. 00:18:03.10\00:18:05.26 That's not what Christ did. No. 00:18:05.27\00:18:07.15 When Christ was here, 00:18:07.16\00:18:08.42 He went right where they were, 00:18:08.43\00:18:11.42 and that's why the Pharisees called Him a drunkard, 00:18:11.43\00:18:17.19 because he went to the parties 00:18:17.20\00:18:19.49 and was right there with the people 00:18:19.50\00:18:22.09 who were categorized as sinners. 00:18:22.10\00:18:24.96 Yeah, he hung around them, 00:18:24.97\00:18:26.87 and they didn't like that, you know, 00:18:26.88\00:18:28.96 I believe the fallacious tradition 00:18:28.97\00:18:32.34 of the ceremonial washings of the Pharisees 00:18:32.35\00:18:37.02 developed from them coming into contact 00:18:37.03\00:18:40.75 with the common people in the market before they ate. 00:18:40.76\00:18:44.66 And I think it gave them a false security 00:18:44.67\00:18:50.43 that they were clean, but-- 00:18:50.44\00:18:52.76 And that they're above them too. Yes. 00:18:52.77\00:18:54.70 And that's what we've got to-- 00:18:54.71\00:18:56.32 And that can happen to us. Yes. 00:18:56.33\00:18:58.61 That can happen to us. Yeah. 00:18:58.62\00:19:00.06 because in the eyes of God, there are no levels, 00:19:00.07\00:19:03.97 if the ground is leveled at the foot of the cross. 00:19:03.98\00:19:06.83 Yes, that's right. 00:19:06.84\00:19:08.44 Peter, I want to share a little story that to me, 00:19:08.45\00:19:12.61 it says, something about heart. 00:19:12.62\00:19:15.11 And this is what we're talking about, isn't it? 00:19:15.12\00:19:17.96 It's heart. Maybe some of you saw this, 00:19:17.97\00:19:21.32 because it was on, I got it by e-mail. 00:19:21.33\00:19:24.81 Last week, I took my children to a restaurant, 00:19:24.82\00:19:27.43 my six-year-old son asked if he could say grace. 00:19:27.44\00:19:30.55 As we bowed our heads, he said, 00:19:30.56\00:19:32.38 "God is good, God is great, 00:19:32.39\00:19:34.75 thank you for the food, 00:19:34.76\00:19:35.95 and I would even thank you more 00:19:35.96\00:19:37.67 if mom gets us ice cream for dessert, 00:19:37.68\00:19:40.07 and Liberty and justice for all, amen." 00:19:40.08\00:19:43.87 Along with the laughter from the other customers nearby, 00:19:43.88\00:19:46.84 I heard a woman remark, 00:19:46.85\00:19:48.19 that's what's wrong with this country, 00:19:48.20\00:19:50.26 kids don't even know how to pray. 00:19:50.27\00:19:52.33 Asking God for ice cream. This is ridiculous. 00:19:52.34\00:19:56.34 Hearing this, my little son burst into tears. 00:19:56.35\00:20:00.78 "Is God mad at me?" 00:20:00.79\00:20:02.75 See, Peter, this is how our attitude toward people 00:20:02.76\00:20:07.04 who we think are doing wrong. 00:20:07.05\00:20:08.88 I mean, we can give them the wrong impression, 00:20:08.89\00:20:11.73 the wrong words, the wrong, 00:20:11.74\00:20:13.65 even the wrong expression on her face 00:20:13.66\00:20:16.69 can be discouraging to someone. That's right. 00:20:16.70\00:20:20.30 Hearing this, my little son burst into tears, 00:20:20.31\00:20:22.57 and he asked, "Is God mad at me?" 00:20:22.58\00:20:26.49 Because that's what they feel. Yeah. 00:20:26.50\00:20:28.09 They feel, "Is God mad at me?" 00:20:28.10\00:20:30.16 As I assured him that he had done a terrific job, 00:20:30.17\00:20:32.97 and elderly gentleman 00:20:32.98\00:20:34.40 approached the table and said, 00:20:34.41\00:20:36.15 "I happen to know that God thought 00:20:36.16\00:20:38.68 that was a great prayer." 00:20:38.69\00:20:40.63 "Really?" My son asked. 00:20:40.64\00:20:42.66 "Cross my heart," the man replied. 00:20:42.67\00:20:45.93 Then in a whisper, indicating the woman 00:20:45.94\00:20:48.66 whose remark had started this whole thing, 00:20:48.67\00:20:51.26 too bad, she never asks God for ice cream, 00:20:51.27\00:20:54.00 a little ice cream is good for the soul sometimes." 00:20:54.01\00:20:57.91 Naturally, I bought my kids ice cream 00:20:57.92\00:21:00.09 at the end of the meal. 00:21:00.10\00:21:01.66 My son stared at his for a moment, 00:21:01.67\00:21:04.34 and then did something 00:21:04.35\00:21:06.65 that I'll remember the rest of my life. 00:21:06.66\00:21:09.46 He picked up his sundae and without a word, 00:21:09.47\00:21:12.96 walked over and placed it in front of the woman, 00:21:12.97\00:21:15.78 with a big smile he said, 00:21:15.79\00:21:17.85 "Here, this is for you. 00:21:17.86\00:21:20.35 Ice cream is good for the soul sometimes, 00:21:20.36\00:21:22.66 and my soul is good already." 00:21:22.67\00:21:24.98 But, you know, I guess that, that really does illustrate 00:21:27.07\00:21:30.36 what we're talking about, Peter, 00:21:30.37\00:21:32.10 and that is, a heart for others. 00:21:32.11\00:21:35.45 A heart that says, "You're hurting, 00:21:35.46\00:21:39.67 and I care, and I know someone, 00:21:39.68\00:21:43.67 the great Healer who can help you. 00:21:43.68\00:21:46.29 Yeah, and you know, 00:21:46.30\00:21:48.47 no one can make their heart that way, 00:21:48.48\00:21:53.09 only those who do spend the time with Jesus. 00:21:53.10\00:21:57.28 He makes their heart that way. 00:21:57.29\00:21:58.94 That's right. That's why I know aybody can do this. 00:21:58.95\00:22:01.90 That's right. They can do this, 00:22:01.91\00:22:03.76 they can reach out, 00:22:03.77\00:22:04.78 they can make themselves available, 00:22:04.79\00:22:07.03 step out of the comfort zone, 00:22:07.04\00:22:09.16 because God will use you in a very special way. 00:22:09.17\00:22:13.19 That's right. 00:22:13.20\00:22:14.18 And it's amazing to me, 00:22:14.19\00:22:16.06 you don't have to be a pastor-- 00:22:16.07\00:22:17.59 And he even gives you a heart to want to do. 00:22:17.60\00:22:20.22 To want to do it, yes. 00:22:20.23\00:22:22.15 And that comes through spending time with Him 00:22:22.16\00:22:24.44 through prayer, He actually gives you 00:22:24.45\00:22:27.17 that very desire that you have in your heart. 00:22:27.18\00:22:30.24 And we can do it, we can do it, 00:22:30.25\00:22:32.36 we need to do it. 00:22:32.37\00:22:34.39 And there's many more stories out there. 00:22:34.40\00:22:36.62 You know, I think one of the reasons 00:22:36.63\00:22:40.30 that so many people are showing up at our church 00:22:40.31\00:22:44.99 is because, if I can say, my members receive them. 00:22:45.00\00:22:51.22 Oh, that's good. Yes, and they nurture them, 00:22:51.23\00:22:55.72 and they don't judge them or criticize them. 00:22:55.73\00:22:58.18 I know, they don't look the same, 00:22:58.19\00:23:00.24 they don't dress the same, they don't smell the same, 00:23:00.25\00:23:03.45 they don't talk the same, 00:23:03.46\00:23:05.78 but that's where I used to be 00:23:05.79\00:23:08.74 before God brought me to this point. 00:23:08.75\00:23:12.04 And now I realize that all of us are being called 00:23:12.05\00:23:15.80 to bring and allow people to get to that point. 00:23:15.81\00:23:20.71 And not as it were, put out that little spark 00:23:20.72\00:23:25.25 to quench that little smoky, dimly, smoking flash. 00:23:25.26\00:23:31.17 And, you know, I think that is so important, 00:23:31.18\00:23:33.22 Peter, I'm glad you said that, 00:23:33.23\00:23:34.46 because people have said, 00:23:34.47\00:23:36.88 well, I went to that church one time, 00:23:36.89\00:23:39.19 no one smiled at me, no one greeted me, 00:23:39.20\00:23:43.27 no one told me 00:23:43.28\00:23:44.25 that there was a fellowship lunch afterward. 00:23:44.26\00:23:46.61 No one shook my hand, no one made sure 00:23:46.62\00:23:49.24 I had a place to sit. 00:23:49.25\00:23:50.90 I'll never go back to that church, 00:23:50.91\00:23:52.33 that's the coldest church around here. 00:23:52.34\00:23:54.65 Well, so people really want to have a connection 00:23:54.66\00:23:57.88 with the Lord, but they know that they, 00:23:57.89\00:24:00.97 it comes through fellowship 00:24:00.98\00:24:02.68 and encouragement through God's people. 00:24:02.69\00:24:05.18 And they learn the love of God 00:24:05.19\00:24:08.41 when it's exemplified in the life of God's children. 00:24:08.42\00:24:13.28 That's exactly, that's exactly right, 00:24:13.29\00:24:15.77 and I just know 00:24:15.78\00:24:17.55 God had something really special for our church, 00:24:17.56\00:24:21.46 because in these last days, 00:24:21.47\00:24:23.14 there are more and more people. 00:24:23.15\00:24:24.46 See, we're talking about Las Vegas, 00:24:24.47\00:24:27.15 but the Internet has made those kinds of things 00:24:27.16\00:24:32.10 available to everybody everywhere. That's right. 00:24:32.11\00:24:34.93 And we all have to recognize 00:24:34.94\00:24:37.76 that we need to be minute people for God-- 00:24:37.77\00:24:40.69 Movies today. Oh, the movies, yeah. 00:24:40.70\00:24:42.63 Movies and videos, and even magazines. 00:24:42.64\00:24:46.62 And if you're watching a newscast, 00:24:46.63\00:24:50.94 it'll cut away to some commercial that is, 00:24:50.95\00:24:58.23 I'm just amazed at the kinds of things 00:24:58.24\00:25:00.84 that they'll show on television, 00:25:00.85\00:25:03.13 and children are exposed to all kinds of things. 00:25:03.14\00:25:08.07 Yeah. It's really, we live in a sick society. 00:25:08.08\00:25:11.74 Yeah, we really do. Where Hollywood is using crime, 00:25:11.75\00:25:14.92 and violence, and all kinds of illicit, 00:25:14.93\00:25:19.29 unhappy home situations as entertainment. 00:25:19.30\00:25:23.81 Entertainment. And so children don't know, 00:25:23.82\00:25:26.25 they think it's funny. 00:25:26.26\00:25:27.23 They've set the standard which is anti-biblical. 00:25:27.24\00:25:31.77 That's right, that's right. 00:25:31.78\00:25:34.21 So there are things that we can do every day 00:25:34.22\00:25:37.43 to love other people and to show them God's love. 00:25:37.44\00:25:40.21 Peter, I was so blessed, 00:25:40.22\00:25:41.91 when I was there in your church. Yeah. 00:25:41.92\00:25:44.21 And you had a large baptism that day. 00:25:44.22\00:25:46.86 The thing that really spoke to me 00:25:46.87\00:25:48.86 was that you had all the people, 00:25:48.87\00:25:51.58 the baptismal candidates, 00:25:51.59\00:25:53.36 who were gonna be baptized that morning, 00:25:53.37\00:25:54.75 sitting in one row, 00:25:54.76\00:25:56.67 and then you had all the people, 00:25:56.68\00:25:58.48 who had been working with them, 00:25:58.49\00:26:00.47 and mentoring them, and coaching them, 00:26:00.48\00:26:02.81 and studying the Bible with them. 00:26:02.82\00:26:04.68 They were sitting immediately behind them. 00:26:04.69\00:26:08.44 And so I just, I got tears in my eyes 00:26:08.45\00:26:12.40 as I saw the close relationships, 00:26:12.41\00:26:15.76 the caring, and when those people were baptized, 00:26:15.77\00:26:19.19 you could just see big smiles on the faces of the people 00:26:19.20\00:26:23.02 who had been studying with them, 00:26:23.03\00:26:24.56 and praying for them, and loving them to the Lord. 00:26:24.57\00:26:28.06 And something else that impressed me 00:26:28.07\00:26:30.11 and blessed me was that Andre, 00:26:30.12\00:26:33.42 the young man from the Indian Reservation. 00:26:33.43\00:26:36.23 Right. You told him when he was baptized, 00:26:36.24\00:26:39.48 I was gonna go to your reservation 00:26:39.49\00:26:41.99 and have an evangelistic crusade, 00:26:42.00\00:26:45.42 but I understand, you've already started it. 00:26:45.43\00:26:47.46 Yeah, he's already started, 00:26:47.47\00:26:48.75 it's amazing. Isn't that wonderful! 00:26:48.76\00:26:50.48 In fact, let me give you an addendum to that, Ruthie, 00:26:50.49\00:26:53.82 this Sabbath, his little niece is gonna be baptized, 00:26:53.83\00:26:59.12 and she is already doing Bible studies 00:26:59.13\00:27:02.03 at her public schools for her friends. 00:27:02.04\00:27:04.61 How old is she? She's nine years old. 00:27:04.62\00:27:07.04 Oh, isn't that beautiful? It's amazing to me. 00:27:07.05\00:27:10.09 That's wonderful. Yeah, so-- 00:27:10.10\00:27:12.09 And that, that to me speaks 00:27:12.10\00:27:14.12 of the authenticity of what God is doing. 00:27:14.13\00:27:17.76 And I want, I want our listeners to know this too. 00:27:17.77\00:27:21.93 This isn't happening necessarily, 00:27:21.94\00:27:25.02 because we're in Las Vegas. 00:27:25.03\00:27:27.12 I believe it's happening because we're intentional. 00:27:27.13\00:27:30.35 Yes. About being prepared to receive them 00:27:30.36\00:27:34.07 if God chooses to send them. 00:27:34.08\00:27:36.17 And I'm glad you said that, 00:27:36.18\00:27:37.82 because every city has people, 00:27:37.83\00:27:41.27 who the enemy wants to just weigh down with guilt, 00:27:41.28\00:27:45.00 and condemnation, and fear, 00:27:45.01\00:27:47.68 and yeah, God is wanting to reach them. 00:27:47.69\00:27:51.04 Our time has gone so quickly, Peter, 00:27:51.05\00:27:53.22 and it's time for us to say goodbye to our, our viewers, 00:27:53.23\00:27:57.38 but thank you for joining us. 00:27:57.39\00:27:59.00 Thank you for inviting us into your living room, 00:27:59.01\00:28:01.30 and we look forward to seeing you again, 00:28:01.31\00:28:03.71 and we'll be praying for you. 00:28:03.72\00:28:05.52 God bless. Have a great week. 00:28:05.53\00:28:07.98