There is a wonderful little story that comes out 00:00:01.98\00:00:03.87 of the United Kingdom, I think its Scotland. 00:00:03.90\00:00:06.06 You are gonna love it a sweet, sweet story, but 00:00:06.09\00:00:10.44 teaches such powerful principles, 00:00:10.47\00:00:12.98 life changing principles. We'll be right back. 00:00:13.01\00:00:15.45 Welcome to Issues and Answers. 00:00:41.88\00:00:43.69 The issue that I'd like for us to think about together 00:00:44.98\00:00:47.48 today is, have you read the little book try giving 00:00:47.51\00:00:51.64 yourself away, it's a good little book I think its out 00:00:51.67\00:00:55.22 to print now, but that is our theme for this program, 00:00:55.25\00:01:00.44 try giving yourself away. And I believe that comes 00:01:00.47\00:01:04.07 from the Lord himself. There is a text in scripture 00:01:04.10\00:01:07.01 that tells us the Lord has a big plan for us. In Psalm 80, 00:01:07.04\00:01:13.33 David is saying let your hand be upon the man 00:01:15.39\00:01:17.97 of your right hand, upon the son of man who made, 00:01:18.00\00:01:21.12 you made strong for yourself. God says I want 00:01:21.15\00:01:25.53 to make you strong because I have a plan for you. 00:01:25.56\00:01:28.95 I want you to do something for me, revive us then we 00:01:29.48\00:01:32.96 will not turn back from you revive us and we will 00:01:32.99\00:01:35.55 call upon your name. So, the Lord is saying, 00:01:35.58\00:01:38.11 I want you to cooperate with me, 00:01:38.14\00:01:39.44 I'm gonna put my hand on you but I want to revive you, 00:01:39.47\00:01:43.86 I want to give you strength and help because 00:01:43.89\00:01:46.82 I have something that I want you to do. 00:01:46.85\00:01:48.91 And then in that next chapter Verse 7 you called 00:01:50.47\00:01:54.12 on me in trouble and I delivered you. 00:01:54.15\00:01:56.61 God has a message that he wants you to give to others. 00:01:57.51\00:02:01.76 He has something that he wants you to do for him. 00:02:02.56\00:02:05.08 In Psalm 149 Verse 4 the Lord takes pleasure in 00:02:05.99\00:02:10.86 his people, he will beautify the humble with salvation. 00:02:11.40\00:02:16.04 I want to tell you a story about a humble little boy. 00:02:16.98\00:02:20.61 He was 8-years-old in his church and the deacon 00:02:20.64\00:02:26.36 was passing the offering basket and apparently it was 00:02:26.39\00:02:30.63 a large basket, when he came to this 8-year-old boy; 00:02:30.66\00:02:35.05 the boy tugged on his sleeve and he said put the basket 00:02:35.08\00:02:40.95 on the floor. And the deacon said that's strange, 00:02:41.41\00:02:45.72 I'm not gonna do that. But he couldn't for some 00:02:46.36\00:02:50.56 reason walk on and just ignore that request 00:02:50.59\00:02:53.68 and the little boy repeated it, please put the basket 00:02:54.76\00:02:57.55 on the floor. And the thought came to the Deacon well 00:02:57.58\00:03:01.38 he is not a bad boy, he is not gonna do something 00:03:01.41\00:03:04.88 bad here, so he wrestled with this strange request, 00:03:04.91\00:03:09.16 finally he put the basket on the floor. 00:03:09.79\00:03:12.75 The little boy stepped into the basket and he said 00:03:13.90\00:03:17.38 I am the offering. Amen. 00:03:18.13\00:03:20.38 I am the offering. That is our question to you, 00:03:20.41\00:03:26.40 to me and to each one of us God wants you and me to be 00:03:26.43\00:03:31.79 the offering. He wants us to give ourselves so 00:03:31.82\00:03:35.64 completely to him that we can be used for 00:03:35.67\00:03:39.28 whatever task he has for us, for his glory. 00:03:39.31\00:03:42.60 I want you to meet my special guest today, 00:03:43.75\00:03:45.71 my friend Pastor Roy Rugless. Thank you for being here. 00:03:46.39\00:03:49.62 Thank you for having me. And Roy you are Pastor 00:03:49.65\00:03:53.29 in Tennessee, Nashville. No, I Pastor in Athens, 00:03:54.82\00:03:57.99 Alabama, but I also have an administrative position 00:03:58.02\00:04:01.47 in Nashville, Tennessee. In Nashville, Tennessee, 00:04:01.50\00:04:02.73 okay, alright. But you live and Pastor in Athens Alabama, 00:04:02.76\00:04:07.75 correct. Is that North, South, East, 00:04:07.78\00:04:10.22 West where is that in Alabama? That is in the Northern 00:04:10.25\00:04:13.33 part of Alabama, west of Huntsville, 00:04:13.36\00:04:17.08 Alabama that's where we are. Okay, and you 00:04:17.57\00:04:19.72 but you also work with Pastors and Church members 00:04:19.75\00:04:22.41 in five states. Yes mam, cover five states. 00:04:22.44\00:04:25.68 Tell us where that is? Alabama, Mississippi, 00:04:25.71\00:04:29.26 Tennessee, Kentucky, and Northwest part of Florida, 00:04:29.45\00:04:32.65 I am all over the place. Wow. And I'm still pastoring 00:04:33.14\00:04:35.89 and is killing me. But it's a joy, it is, it is, 00:04:35.92\00:04:39.91 it's a joy, it's a joy. But you do have a message 00:04:39.94\00:04:42.45 of hope and it's about prayer and praying 00:04:43.15\00:04:46.32 for the Holy Spirit, yes. And the pastors in these 00:04:46.35\00:04:49.50 five states, yes, yes, are appreciating this, 00:04:49.53\00:04:52.74 yes they are, and the Lord is changing them. 00:04:52.77\00:04:54.68 Yes, they are. Yes they are. We talked about 00:04:54.71\00:04:57.69 that in another show that we did together of 00:04:57.72\00:05:01.40 Issues and Answers and you might just take a minute 00:05:01.43\00:05:05.88 to bring everybody up to speed that may not have 00:05:05.91\00:05:09.04 seen that the Lord is pouring out his Spirit, yes, he is. 00:05:09.07\00:05:13.88 I want to say though talking about that experience 00:05:13.91\00:05:16.78 those of you who work with us at our last telecast 00:05:18.40\00:05:20.89 we had an experience, where the Holy Sprit was 00:05:20.92\00:05:23.75 poured out upon the leaders of our Church. 00:05:23.78\00:05:25.86 We got all the pastors together and we experience 00:05:25.89\00:05:30.02 Pentecost, hearts were broken, 00:05:30.05\00:05:31.91 confessions were made, a repentance was done, 00:05:31.94\00:05:34.67 we praised the Lord, testimonies were given and 00:05:35.67\00:05:38.14 the Holy Spirit came, but Ruthie I want to share 00:05:38.17\00:05:40.29 something based on your theme of sacrifice. 00:05:40.32\00:05:42.78 We have a Latino contingent in our organization, 00:05:44.44\00:05:51.14 they are embryonic, just getting started and our 00:05:51.17\00:05:55.17 conference unfortunately does not, can I, can I interrupt 00:05:55.20\00:05:58.41 again, yes mam, when you were talking about 00:05:58.44\00:06:01.14 what happened and this was at Indian creek in Tennessee 00:06:01.17\00:06:03.85 yes in Tennessee, where the Holy Spirit just met 00:06:03.88\00:06:06.04 this group of pastors in a powerful way. 00:06:06.07\00:06:08.87 I want to ask you and that really is intrude with 00:06:09.52\00:06:12.88 what we are talking about today and that is why, 00:06:12.91\00:06:16.08 why do you think the Lord was there in that group 00:06:16.11\00:06:19.34 with the pastors, why was he there in power? 00:06:19.37\00:06:22.09 He was there in power because first of all the Lord 00:06:23.94\00:06:27.69 wants to do a special work in the world, that's right, 00:06:27.72\00:06:30.70 he wants men and women to be prepared for his 00:06:30.73\00:06:34.23 second coming, that's right. The only way that's 00:06:34.26\00:06:36.32 gonna happen is through the outpouring of the 00:06:36.35\00:06:39.18 Holy Spirit who God gives to give us power to go 00:06:39.21\00:06:43.73 out and tell people to get ready and also to get 00:06:43.76\00:06:46.56 ready ourselves, but we need to understand that 00:06:46.59\00:06:49.22 the people follow the leaders, that's right, 00:06:49.25\00:06:52.06 so the leaders now have to get on board so that 00:06:52.09\00:06:54.63 they could take it back their churches, that's right, 00:06:54.66\00:06:57.00 so that's what that was all about. And that's what, 00:06:57.03\00:06:58.46 why I believe the Lord met you in a very special 00:06:58.49\00:07:01.78 and powerful way with all of those pastors. Yes. 00:07:01.81\00:07:05.13 And church leaders, yes. Because he was saying 00:07:05.16\00:07:07.85 I want to equip you, I want to empower you the 00:07:07.88\00:07:11.64 pastors had an experience that they've never 00:07:11.67\00:07:13.67 experienced before in their lives. I have never 00:07:13.70\00:07:16.17 experienced anything like that, I mean there 00:07:16.20\00:07:17.82 is one thing to talk about the Holy Spirit is another 00:07:17.85\00:07:20.68 thing to experience him working in your life, but 00:07:20.71\00:07:24.54 to receive it in its fullness where you are just over 00:07:24.57\00:07:28.40 shadowed and you know this is God. 00:07:28.43\00:07:30.56 You know it's God. Yeah, It's almost like Moses 00:07:30.59\00:07:34.14 when he went upon Mount Sinai, he is in the presence 00:07:34.17\00:07:37.68 of God. This is like on the mount of transfiguration, 00:07:37.71\00:07:40.30 when the Holy Spirit came in the presence of God 00:07:40.33\00:07:44.10 came in and the disciples they just overwhelmed 00:07:44.13\00:07:47.14 and you know Roy, you can live your whole life, 00:07:47.17\00:07:50.63 you can live your whole life reading and hearing 00:07:51.35\00:07:54.67 what God is doing in the lives of other people that 00:07:54.70\00:07:57.56 you may miss it. You can live your whole life and 00:07:57.59\00:08:00.74 never really see God do something awesome, 00:08:00.77\00:08:03.29 that's right, that he wants to do in your life, 00:08:03.32\00:08:05.79 in your life. And I just want to appeal to all of us 00:08:05.82\00:08:08.68 let's ask the Lord what he wants to do for you, 00:08:08.71\00:08:12.80 for me. Yes, on a daily basis, yes, he wants to do 00:08:12.83\00:08:16.96 something to take us out of the ordinary. 00:08:16.99\00:08:19.68 I don't really think that God is very interested or very 00:08:19.71\00:08:24.00 impressed with what you and I can do without him. 00:08:24.03\00:08:27.72 Do you? I agree with you 1000%. I don't think, 00:08:27.75\00:08:32.54 he is very impressed with what you and I can do, 00:08:32.57\00:08:35.29 we are totally depending on him. Yes, yes, 00:08:36.27\00:08:39.46 but now let me take it a step further because 00:08:39.49\00:08:41.13 I want to get back to your theme of giving up 00:08:41.16\00:08:43.00 yourselves yes, yes, if you understand that the goal 00:08:43.03\00:08:47.23 of the gospel is to be like God that's the transformation 00:08:47.26\00:08:51.53 process where it's supposed to be coming like God. 00:08:51.56\00:08:54.48 God is love, I mean that's the bottom-line, 00:08:54.51\00:08:58.21 God is love. And encapsulated in his love is one 00:08:58.24\00:09:03.43 of giving, that's right, one of sacrifice, that's right, 00:09:03.46\00:09:06.48 you know the devil was amazed Ruthie after 00:09:06.51\00:09:10.86 he got kicked out of Heaven, he was amazed that God 00:09:10.89\00:09:15.82 would go to such lengths as to sacrifice his son 00:09:15.85\00:09:20.37 and for Christ to go to such lengths as to sacrifice 00:09:21.51\00:09:25.20 his life. So, that we could live the essence, 00:09:25.23\00:09:31.53 the essence of love is self sacrifice. That's right, 00:09:31.56\00:09:35.86 giving of ones self. Don't you think the angels 00:09:35.89\00:09:39.90 were amazed at Calvary oh yes, I was reading 00:09:39.93\00:09:44.17 a story where once the angels understood what Christ 00:09:44.20\00:09:50.56 was getting ready to do that they themselves 00:09:50.59\00:09:53.57 wanted to give themselves instead of letting Christ 00:09:53.60\00:09:57.49 give himself. They didn't want that to happen 00:09:57.52\00:09:59.00 to him. They didn't want that to happen to him. 00:09:59.03\00:10:00.00 But it also showed that spirit of love which is in 00:10:00.07\00:10:04.08 outgrowth of self sacrifice and it comes from the father. 00:10:04.11\00:10:06.88 That's who is. That's right, that's the mind blower, 00:10:06.91\00:10:09.98 that's right, God is a God who gives of himself and gives 00:10:10.01\00:10:14.72 himself, that's the mind blower and isn't it beautiful 00:10:14.75\00:10:18.27 when you see him working and transforming his people 00:10:18.30\00:10:22.92 to think of someone else first because we on this planet 00:10:22.95\00:10:27.74 are a bunch of selfish human beings who think of ourselves 00:10:28.43\00:10:32.05 first, I mean that is just the way we are. Ever since 00:10:32.08\00:10:34.95 the fall whether we like to admit it or not, 00:10:34.98\00:10:37.19 ever since the fall our minds have been worked 00:10:37.83\00:10:39.88 and twisted and now we have become very selfish 00:10:39.91\00:10:44.14 people. I think one of high attributes of Christianity 00:10:44.17\00:10:48.65 is the one of self sacrifice, now that's hard to do, 00:10:48.68\00:10:51.77 you know what it's easy to give of what is in abundance, 00:10:51.80\00:10:56.54 but it is very challenging to give up our necessity 00:10:57.82\00:11:00.86 and I'd like to suggest that one of the hallmarks of true 00:11:01.84\00:11:04.38 Christianity is being able to give up ones necessity. 00:11:04.41\00:11:08.23 But you know I want to take you back to Roy because 00:11:08.26\00:11:12.23 the little boy who stepped in the basket, his name was 00:11:12.26\00:11:17.89 Robert Moffat. And God saw the heart of that little 00:11:17.92\00:11:23.90 8-year-old boy and he said you want to be my offering, 00:11:23.93\00:11:28.62 you are offering yourself to me I'll take you, 00:11:29.55\00:11:32.51 I'll take you to the heart of Africa. I'll give you 00:11:33.51\00:11:37.92 William Livingston, I'll give you David Livingston 00:11:37.95\00:11:43.32 as your son-in-law, I will left the two of you change 00:11:43.72\00:11:47.93 the heart of Africa, I'll do something to show my love 00:11:47.96\00:11:51.40 to that huge continent. Here is a boy 00:11:51.43\00:11:54.91 8-years-old who gave himself, who said Lord I want 00:11:55.53\00:11:58.37 you to take me, I am the offering, isn't that 00:11:58.40\00:12:00.56 something. The Lord takes us, yes, 00:12:00.59\00:12:02.63 he is glad to see that here is a child who is serious, 00:12:02.66\00:12:07.22 he wants all of us, let me go back to the Bible, 00:12:07.25\00:12:10.21 you remember the widow with two mites, that's right, 00:12:10.24\00:12:12.13 there were people who had great sums of money, 00:12:12.16\00:12:16.25 that's right, who gave the offering and God was not, 00:12:16.99\00:12:19.71 Jesus was not impressed, that woman she only had 00:12:20.16\00:12:23.82 two mites but in that two mites was a whole living 00:12:23.85\00:12:27.13 her rent groceries all of that. She gave of herself 00:12:27.16\00:12:31.76 that's all she had. That's all she had 00:12:32.29\00:12:33.71 and God said she gave more than anybody else. 00:12:34.73\00:12:37.20 See God wants us, he wants our hearts when 00:12:37.23\00:12:41.33 he has our hearts then he has us. He wants us, 00:12:41.36\00:12:44.51 that's right. So, so that's one of the goals of Gospel 00:12:44.54\00:12:47.80 that we gonna be like God. We gonna have to give 00:12:47.83\00:12:51.12 like God and like you said because of sin we are so 00:12:51.64\00:12:54.27 selfish and self centered and so the transformation 00:12:54.30\00:12:57.48 process is to take us out of ourselves to be like God 00:12:57.51\00:13:01.81 to give of ourselves. But, we don't have the desire, 00:13:01.84\00:13:05.14 no or the ability, no, unless we go to his word, 00:13:05.70\00:13:09.54 unless we go to our knees and say Lord what does 00:13:10.18\00:13:13.27 this look like, what does this look like in my life, 00:13:13.30\00:13:16.29 I'll tell you a little story, okay, there was an elderly 00:13:16.32\00:13:20.67 gentlemen at the pharmacy, who discovered and he 00:13:20.70\00:13:25.24 was very embarrassed that he didn't have enough 00:13:25.27\00:13:27.67 money to get his medications. He thought the co-pay 00:13:27.70\00:13:31.75 was less and so he was standing there in bewilderment 00:13:31.78\00:13:36.60 wondering what he should do, if he should just leave 00:13:37.01\00:13:39.66 the medication there, but he knew he needed that 00:13:39.69\00:13:42.32 medication. There was a young man standing behind 00:13:42.80\00:13:46.34 him waiting and he heard the conversation between 00:13:46.37\00:13:50.17 the pharmacist and this elderly man and he said just a 00:13:50.60\00:13:55.38 minute he tapped him on the shoulder and he said 00:13:55.41\00:13:59.33 just a minute, he was a jogger, 00:13:59.36\00:14:00.33 he have been out jogging and he had just 00:14:00.34\00:14:01.67 stopped to get something cold to drink, but he ran out 00:14:01.70\00:14:05.02 to his car went to his place where he lived came back 00:14:05.05\00:14:08.36 with his wallet and he paid, the difference paid 00:14:08.39\00:14:11.36 for the medication for this man. 00:14:11.39\00:14:13.19 And so while he was waiting he was just 00:14:15.35\00:14:16.97 sitting there waiting when the man, 00:14:17.01\00:14:18.74 the jogger came back and he said okay let's get this. 00:14:18.77\00:14:21.56 So, he paid for the medications patted the guy 00:14:21.59\00:14:24.79 on the back, he said why would you do this? 00:14:24.82\00:14:27.40 He said you needed the medication and I am happy 00:14:27.43\00:14:32.71 to do that for you, he said are you a Christian? Wow. 00:14:32.74\00:14:36.42 He said well yes I am, where do you go to Church? 00:14:37.09\00:14:39.92 Come on, say sorry, where do you go to church 00:14:40.35\00:14:43.29 and do you know the man went to that Church found 00:14:43.32\00:14:47.23 the pastor and he said I want to tell you why I am here, 00:14:47.26\00:14:50.88 why I am here see that may not have been a big deal, 00:14:51.88\00:14:55.55 but when you are willing to be used, when you have gone 00:14:56.48\00:15:00.14 to the Lord in the morning and said to him just take me, 00:15:00.17\00:15:03.20 take me on an adventure with you, use me, yes. 00:15:03.23\00:15:08.01 Then the Lord says okay stay alert, 00:15:08.61\00:15:10.98 pay attention because I will take you to places where 00:15:11.58\00:15:15.54 I want to speak to somebody's heart, yes, yes. 00:15:15.57\00:15:18.76 Now, that only happens when we have the Holy Spirit 00:15:19.26\00:15:23.63 that's right, the Holy Spirit is the only one who can first 00:15:23.66\00:15:26.78 of all give us the desire and then empowers to do, 00:15:26.81\00:15:30.13 that's right. Let me go back to Indian Creek once. 00:15:30.62\00:15:32.63 Yes. We prayed for the Holy Spirit, we pray for the 00:15:34.19\00:15:36.31 outpouring and in the midst of our meeting we had a 00:15:36.34\00:15:42.00 Latino group of pastors as I mentioned earlier 00:15:42.03\00:15:45.79 who are just starting to do work in our conference, 00:15:46.32\00:15:49.79 Oh, yeah I am glad you got back to that. 00:15:50.18\00:15:51.15 Our conference does not have the funds to really 00:15:51.64\00:15:54.25 sustain the ministry like we want to or 00:15:54.28\00:15:55.92 we are able only to hire just the few pastors here 00:15:55.95\00:15:58.44 and there, but we want to do more, but because 00:15:58.47\00:16:01.28 of budget limitations we are not able let me tell you 00:16:01.31\00:16:03.63 something what happened with the Holy Spirit. 00:16:03.66\00:16:05.16 We got those Latino pastors together made a circle 00:16:06.90\00:16:11.44 around them. How many were they? 00:16:12.00\00:16:13.13 They had to be about maybe five or six Latino pastors 00:16:14.61\00:16:17.97 it's just the work has just started and they're 00:16:18.34\00:16:19.36 scattered all over the five states, scattered all over 00:16:19.39\00:16:21.84 the five states, we got those Latino Pastors together 00:16:21.87\00:16:26.50 they told us about their pay there are some of the 00:16:27.52\00:16:30.30 pastors who are working without pay, 00:16:30.33\00:16:32.12 there are some pastors who only can work part-time 00:16:33.27\00:16:35.20 they got to, see their Bible occasional and the bad 00:16:37.11\00:16:41.19 thing about it those who are not working for pay 00:16:41.22\00:16:43.18 those who are not only getting part time salary 00:16:43.21\00:16:45.81 have two or three churches as many churches 00:16:45.84\00:16:48.68 as full time people have and they're still out there 00:16:48.71\00:16:51.78 and they're praising the Lord, they're testifying 00:16:51.81\00:16:55.22 about his goodness, they're talking about how souls 00:16:55.25\00:16:57.39 are coming in, because they are seeing him work 00:16:57.42\00:16:59.48 but the thing about it here the other pastors 00:16:59.88\00:17:02.36 there who are getting full time salaries and these 00:17:02.39\00:17:05.93 guys who are not getting anything and they are 00:17:05.96\00:17:08.89 working as hard if not harder than the rest let me 00:17:08.92\00:17:12.15 tell you about the Holy Spirit let me tell you what 00:17:12.18\00:17:13.60 happened after they told a story, 00:17:13.63\00:17:15.67 they told a story about how they turn to build 00:17:16.94\00:17:18.56 a Church without money and all that kind 00:17:18.59\00:17:20.85 of stuff. After they told a story we got all the 00:17:20.88\00:17:23.15 Latino pastors together and we made a circle around 00:17:23.18\00:17:26.27 them, we laid hands on them, and we started 00:17:27.26\00:17:28.99 praying and let me tell you what happened, 00:17:29.02\00:17:30.89 you are not gonna believe this. Sure I will. But I 00:17:31.48\00:17:35.64 wanna hear. You know part of prayer is interceding for 00:17:35.67\00:17:40.96 others, that's right, that's right, selfishness thinks 00:17:41.57\00:17:44.78 about self when we pray sometime Lord I need this, 00:17:45.25\00:17:47.14 help me with this, give me that. But when you really 00:17:47.55\00:17:49.90 are doing true prayer, you are not, you are not before 00:17:49.93\00:17:53.40 you even ask for yourself you ask for others that's 00:17:53.43\00:17:56.71 real praying interceding for others. Ruthie, 00:17:56.74\00:17:59.07 that's right, we had an intersession prayer for the 00:17:59.10\00:18:03.45 Latino Pastors, we went around the circle, 00:18:03.48\00:18:06.16 the pastor was just crying out for the Lord to do 00:18:06.64\00:18:09.36 something to help them with the work I mean the 00:18:09.39\00:18:12.30 Holy Spirit was there but not this is, that goes back 00:18:12.33\00:18:14.94 to the Psalms. David did that too. 00:18:14.97\00:18:17.00 Yes, he said cry out to the Lord, cry out, cry out, but 00:18:17.03\00:18:20.90 this is the equinox of this whole experience in 00:18:20.93\00:18:24.14 the praying one of the pastors talking about sacrifice now. 00:18:24.17\00:18:28.74 He is praying this prayer, he says Lord I'm committing 00:18:29.82\00:18:33.93 half of my salary, I'm committing half of my salary 00:18:33.96\00:18:39.35 to help these pastors and then some of the other 00:18:39.38\00:18:42.02 pastor Lord I'm committing half of my salary I'm telling 00:18:42.05\00:18:46.78 you the Holy Spirit just came over and gave us 00:18:46.81\00:18:48.81 the spirit of sacrifice that the pastors were crying 00:18:48.84\00:18:52.40 out Lord I'm willing to give of what I have so that 00:18:52.43\00:18:56.18 this work could go forward. Is it you're talking 00:18:56.21\00:18:58.14 about the spirit of sacrifice that's what the Holy Spirit 00:18:58.17\00:19:00.41 will do, that's a miracle, that's a miracle, 00:19:00.44\00:19:01.78 that's what the Holy Spirit will do. Amen. 00:19:01.81\00:19:03.02 Because what is he trying to do, he is trying to give 00:19:03.05\00:19:05.11 us to be like God. And to change our hearts and God 00:19:05.14\00:19:08.17 is a sacrificial God who gave up himself as a matter 00:19:08.20\00:19:13.21 of fact, that's right, when you understand the story 00:19:13.24\00:19:15.84 not only the Christ died but apart of God left him 00:19:17.47\00:19:21.55 as well. How do you, how do you, how do you think 00:19:21.58\00:19:24.95 a pair would feel watching his son die or giving 00:19:24.98\00:19:28.93 of themselves that was part of God who died as well, 00:19:28.96\00:19:32.38 yes, yes, we serve a sacrificial God and if we are 00:19:32.41\00:19:36.20 supposed to be like God we also should be sacrificial, 00:19:36.55\00:19:40.25 we all should be giving and let me take you a step 00:19:40.73\00:19:43.52 further not only do we need to give our means but 00:19:43.55\00:19:48.25 we need to give up our time that's right, 00:19:48.28\00:19:50.30 we need to give up ourselves that's right, 00:19:51.01\00:19:53.47 whatever God asks us to do, none of what we have 00:19:53.50\00:19:58.46 belongs to us, the clothes that we have on our bags, 00:19:58.49\00:20:01.61 that's right. Does not belong to us, right, 00:20:01.64\00:20:04.28 it comes from God I told you true story, true story. 00:20:04.40\00:20:08.43 Well, the other one was true too. And that was powerful, 00:20:08.46\00:20:13.59 beautiful, okay let's have another true story, 00:20:14.32\00:20:17.28 I was, I was, I was a student at Oakwood college 00:20:17.31\00:20:19.23 and didn't have a lot of clothes, but I had a few 00:20:21.73\00:20:25.62 and there was a student a friend of mine who 00:20:27.23\00:20:30.00 came over and we were just talking, and he talked 00:20:30.03\00:20:32.54 about how he didn't have any clothes, 00:20:32.82\00:20:34.94 he had to wear the same clothes everyday 00:20:35.58\00:20:37.06 and now the Holy Spirit 00:20:38.07\00:20:39.04 telling go in your closet and give 00:20:39.05\00:20:42.89 him some of your clothes. Share what you have. 00:20:45.41\00:20:46.38 I told the Holy Spirit I can't do that, 00:20:46.39\00:20:47.74 I only have few to wear how in the world 00:20:49.65\00:20:51.29 and you know let's somebody 00:20:51.32\00:20:52.79 do this that has more than I have got, 00:20:52.82\00:20:54.33 there you go and some of the stuff that I had 00:20:55.04\00:20:56.71 was really nice stuff, Lord I can't do that, 00:20:56.74\00:20:59.88 the Holy Spirit says give him what you have. 00:20:59.91\00:21:02.84 The Holy Spirit broke me down and you know sometimes 00:21:04.89\00:21:08.02 Ruthie how we want to give stuff that's not that good, 00:21:08.40\00:21:11.05 which you didn't like anyway. That's our human nature, 00:21:11.08\00:21:15.10 let me tell you what he said, the Holy Spirit directed 00:21:15.13\00:21:17.79 give him your best suit, give him your best shirt, 00:21:17.82\00:21:22.67 give him your, Ruthie, that's sacrifice, 00:21:23.84\00:21:26.11 Ruthie there was something that went in me that says 00:21:26.14\00:21:29.04 no I can't do this, but there was something else 00:21:29.07\00:21:32.66 inside me that says if you want to be like God 00:21:32.69\00:21:34.96 this is how God is, God gave us his best Amen. 00:21:34.99\00:21:38.17 And I want to let you know that I got even 00:21:38.20\00:21:39.56 though it was a struggle I was just starting my Christian 00:21:39.59\00:21:44.13 journey I had just come into the church went 00:21:44.16\00:21:46.96 to Oakwood, and the Lord was teaching you something 00:21:46.99\00:21:48.90 big. He was sharing he was trying to transform me. 00:21:48.93\00:21:52.39 That's right, so that was my test and all of us are 00:21:52.42\00:21:54.16 going to be tested, we may not be tested 00:21:54.19\00:21:55.71 in the same way but we're all gonna be tested 00:21:55.74\00:21:58.31 and one of the test is giving Abraham, that's right, 00:21:58.34\00:22:02.52 that's right, his only son, but now Roy I love that 00:22:02.55\00:22:07.44 story and what when you gave this other student 00:22:07.47\00:22:12.17 the clothes what happened to him and to you. 00:22:12.77\00:22:15.28 Lord was rooting selfishness out of me. 00:22:16.44\00:22:18.70 That's right, he was rooting selfishness out of me 00:22:19.39\00:22:22.02 and I was able to minister to that, that man 00:22:22.42\00:22:24.27 and joy came over his face and he says man you 00:22:25.00\00:22:28.69 given me your best and he was very appreciative, 00:22:28.72\00:22:31.60 that's what the gospel is all about, that's right, 00:22:31.63\00:22:32.91 the gospel is all about touching others, 00:22:32.94\00:22:35.23 preaching others, but I believe that there 00:22:35.26\00:22:37.49 is another lesson in that, what's that when you 00:22:37.52\00:22:39.57 give yourself away, when you give yourself 00:22:39.60\00:22:42.46 to the Lord for whatever he has for you, 00:22:42.49\00:22:44.30 you cannot out give the Lord. Oh, he blesses 00:22:44.94\00:22:48.65 abundantly. And you know what he just to be 00:22:48.68\00:22:51.41 honest with you God really doesn't need 00:22:51.44\00:22:53.49 what we have, I'm gonna go back to tie an 00:22:53.52\00:22:55.58 offering, you know the Bible talks about how we are 00:22:55.61\00:22:58.47 supposed to return 10%, it doesn't belong to us, 00:22:58.50\00:23:01.14 it belongs to God and then give the offering, but, 00:23:01.71\00:23:05.75 but, but God doesn't need it. This God who leads, 00:23:05.78\00:23:09.64 who owns everything do you think he really needs 00:23:10.08\00:23:12.41 our money, no, no, no, no the reason, 00:23:12.44\00:23:15.35 one of the reason, he needs our hearts, 00:23:15.38\00:23:16.96 there you go, and one of the reasons he does that 00:23:16.99\00:23:19.18 he wants to provide funds for the gospel to go out, 00:23:19.60\00:23:22.75 but I think even more important he wants to 00:23:23.40\00:23:25.20 transform us, he wants to root out selfishness, 00:23:25.23\00:23:27.88 he wants to, the more we give, the more 00:23:27.91\00:23:30.19 unselfish we become, the more we give the more 00:23:30.22\00:23:32.86 unselfish. So, that eventually we become like him. 00:23:32.89\00:23:35.54 I got to tell you another story, I got so many 00:23:35.57\00:23:37.08 stories, go ahead, go ahead, I got to tell you 00:23:37.11\00:23:38.45 another story, good. I was telling you previously 00:23:38.48\00:23:41.88 about a lady who came who was not a member 00:23:41.91\00:23:44.46 of my Church, who came to my Church to my prayer 00:23:44.49\00:23:47.92 meeting and at testimonies, you always got to 00:23:47.95\00:23:51.38 have testimonies, testimonies are powerful, oh yes, 00:23:51.41\00:23:53.58 that's right, at testimony time in this economic time 00:23:53.61\00:23:56.86 she says she was only working, she was only 00:23:56.89\00:24:00.28 working part time I think she was working 30 hours 00:24:00.31\00:24:03.05 a week and then when the economy hit they 00:24:03.08\00:24:05.97 knocked her down to 15 hours a week and then 00:24:06.00\00:24:08.96 they let her go altogether and she said she 00:24:08.99\00:24:11.85 needed some medication, she didn't even have money 00:24:11.88\00:24:15.76 to go the pharmacy to get any medication at all. 00:24:15.79\00:24:18.28 She didn't even have any food to give her children 00:24:18.92\00:24:22.34 and as I am listening to her, my heart just bleeds, 00:24:22.84\00:24:26.66 my heart just bleeds. And I said this lady needs 00:24:26.97\00:24:30.42 some help, after prayer 00:24:30.45\00:24:32.34 meeting was over, after prayer meeting was over 00:24:32.37\00:24:35.41 I didn't have a lot of money, but I reached in my 00:24:35.44\00:24:37.61 wallet and everything that I had I pulled it out, 00:24:37.64\00:24:43.47 everything that I had I pulled it out, 00:24:43.50\00:24:46.59 and I gave it to her, I gave it to her and you know 00:24:46.62\00:24:50.96 what she says, she says I don't need it, she says 00:24:50.99\00:24:53.90 I am fine now, i didn't know 00:24:53.93\00:24:55.44 that did, but she says I'm fine now, 00:24:55.47\00:24:57.97 are you sure, I said I want you to have this. 00:24:58.00\00:24:59.71 She said I don't need it I'm fine now. 00:24:59.74\00:25:02.36 But before you say anything what the Lord was doing, 00:25:02.93\00:25:05.86 he was testing me again, testing me but you know what, 00:25:06.94\00:25:10.81 this time it wasn't a struggle, it wasn't a struggle, 00:25:11.58\00:25:14.98 I had no, I had no reservations it gets easier, 00:25:15.01\00:25:18.15 it gets easier, obedience prepares you for the next step. 00:25:18.83\00:25:22.46 I was willing I didn't think 00:25:22.53\00:25:24.57 of myself, I didn't think this is 00:25:24.60\00:25:26.78 everything that I have where is where is the next dollar 00:25:26.81\00:25:29.71 coming from that's growth, that's right, that's right, 00:25:30.17\00:25:32.87 and that's like Abraham on the mountain with Isaac. 00:25:33.34\00:25:36.31 The Lord was asking him to sacrifice because he was 00:25:37.73\00:25:40.23 testing Abraham's heart, yes, yes, let me say this 00:25:40.64\00:25:43.43 because our time is almost running out. 00:25:44.00\00:25:45.15 When you understand God, God is love, when you look 00:25:46.77\00:25:53.11 at his commandments his 10 commandments that 00:25:53.64\00:25:56.90 nothing more than love, the first four commandments 00:25:56.93\00:26:00.31 deal with love to God, that's right, last six commandments 00:26:00.34\00:26:03.33 deal with love to your fellow man, right. If we love God, 00:26:03.36\00:26:07.42 if we have true love we will love God and we will love 00:26:07.45\00:26:11.51 our fellow man. How do we love God, 00:26:11.54\00:26:14.04 we give ourselves back to him, that's right, 00:26:14.25\00:26:16.01 how do we love our fellow man we give ourselves 00:26:16.04\00:26:18.57 to our fellow men that's commandment keeping, 00:26:18.60\00:26:20.48 that's right, its not a list of thou shall not and what 00:26:20.51\00:26:25.07 you cannot do and prohibitions it's all about love, 00:26:26.19\00:26:29.16 that's right, and if we really understand love in his true 00:26:29.19\00:26:31.19 sense, love is nothing more than giving, 00:26:31.22\00:26:34.24 giving ourselves to God and giving 00:26:34.27\00:26:37.02 ourselves to our fellow men. 00:26:37.05\00:26:38.79 And no wonder he tells us that's fullness of joy, 00:26:39.22\00:26:42.52 oh wonderful, oh wonderful, fullness of joy, fullness 00:26:43.15\00:26:46.89 that's real happiness, that's right, Amen. 00:26:46.92\00:26:50.50 that's real happiness, I wish I had time to I got 00:26:50.88\00:26:53.92 another story but I know you are getting ready to rap 00:26:53.95\00:26:55.86 this thing up. Well, our time is about gone, but 00:26:55.89\00:26:58.23 I would like to say our viewers thank you so much 00:26:58.26\00:27:01.05 for allowing us to come into your homes and we just 00:27:01.68\00:27:04.56 want to say that we pray for you, we pray that these 00:27:04.59\00:27:10.01 programs will be a help in your lives as they are in ours. 00:27:10.04\00:27:13.72 We just pray that that God will show you daily how he 00:27:14.81\00:27:18.94 wants you to give yourself away, because he wants 00:27:18.97\00:27:22.32 to bring each one us to a deeper level of joy. Amen. 00:27:22.35\00:27:26.20 A deeper level of usefulness and understanding him 00:27:26.72\00:27:29.90 better and he tells us in Daniel 11:32 those who know 00:27:29.93\00:27:36.23 him intimately are privileged and he says 00:27:36.26\00:27:40.23 I'll make you strong and able to do bold and daring 00:27:40.26\00:27:43.30 things. So, if you are frightened, if you are afraid 00:27:43.33\00:27:46.05 to do some of these things. God will make you strong, 00:27:46.08\00:27:50.46 because he has a plan that is so big, so huge, 00:27:51.05\00:27:54.87 so much bigger than anything we could ever 00:27:55.43\00:27:57.67 imagine. So, daily let's begin the day by saying 00:27:58.37\00:28:01.41 dear God I just want to give myself to you, 00:28:01.82\00:28:04.45 I want to give myself to your plan and let 00:28:05.12\00:28:07.70 him surprise you, it's great. God bless you. 00:28:07.73\00:28:11.07