Hello it's good to see you. Do you like pancakes? 00:00:01.93\00:00:04.80 We have a pancake story and somebody who made them. 00:00:05.03\00:00:08.77 I love this story. See you we will be right back. 00:00:08.97\00:00:13.21 Before we get into the pancake story. 00:00:35.93\00:00:38.37 I have something that I think you are gonna really 00:00:39.17\00:00:40.60 like. It made such sense to me. 00:00:40.87\00:00:44.14 It comes from the little book 'Praying God's Word' 00:00:44.34\00:00:47.51 by Beth Moore. Listen to this, just a couple 00:00:47.74\00:00:50.15 of short sentences but they are powerful. 00:00:50.38\00:00:52.58 Faith is not believing in my own unshakeable belief. 00:00:52.78\00:00:57.52 I want to repeat that because 00:00:59.02\00:01:00.12 I think it is so powerful. 00:01:00.12\00:01:01.66 Faith is not believing in my own unshakeable belief, 00:01:01.89\00:01:05.03 faith is believing in unshakeable God. 00:01:06.26\00:01:09.10 When everything in me trembles and quakes. 00:01:09.30\00:01:13.10 Ever you feel like that. My guest today is 00:01:13.34\00:01:19.41 Kelly Veilleux, from Waterville, Maine. Welcome. 00:01:19.61\00:01:24.55 Thank you. Kelly I promised the pancake story. 00:01:24.55\00:01:28.15 Yes. Have you heard it? I don't think so. 00:01:28.35\00:01:30.65 Want to hear it. Yes, please. 00:01:30.89\00:01:32.52 Alright this is it. Six year old Brandon decided 00:01:32.72\00:01:37.76 one Sunday morning to fix pancakes for his parents. 00:01:37.96\00:01:40.60 He found a big bowl and a spoon, 00:01:40.86\00:01:43.13 pulled a chair to the counter, open the cupboard 00:01:43.33\00:01:46.23 and pull out the heavy flour canisters spilling 00:01:46.47\00:01:49.40 it on the floor. So already we have a scene. 00:01:49.60\00:01:54.74 He scooped up some of the flour into the bowl 00:01:54.98\00:01:57.65 with his hands mixed in most of a couple of milk, 00:01:57.88\00:02:00.95 added some sugar leaving a floury trail on the floor, 00:02:01.18\00:02:05.29 which by now had a few tracks left by his kitten. 00:02:05.55\00:02:09.76 Brandon was covered with flour and getting frustrated. 00:02:09.96\00:02:13.90 He wanted this to be something very good 00:02:14.10\00:02:16.73 for his mom and dad, but it was getting very bad. 00:02:17.03\00:02:20.34 He didn't know what to do next whether to put all 00:02:20.57\00:02:23.74 in the oven or on the stove, and he didn't know 00:02:23.97\00:02:26.44 how the stove worked. Suddenly he saw his kitten 00:02:26.68\00:02:30.75 licking from the bowl of mix, and reached to push 00:02:31.01\00:02:35.35 her away knocking the egg carton to the floor. 00:02:35.55\00:02:38.39 Frantically he tried to clean up this monumental mess 00:02:38.59\00:02:42.39 but slipped on the eggs. He slipped on the eggs 00:02:42.59\00:02:46.36 getting his little pajamas white and sticky. 00:02:46.56\00:02:48.86 And just then he saw dad standing at the door. 00:02:49.06\00:02:53.54 Big crocodile tears held up in Brandon's eyes. 00:02:53.94\00:02:57.71 All he wanted to do was to do something good, 00:02:57.94\00:03:01.54 and he made a terrible mess. Ever feel like that. 00:03:01.78\00:03:06.38 He was sure scolding was coming 00:03:08.08\00:03:10.29 may be even a spanking but his 00:03:10.59\00:03:13.42 father just stood there and watched him. Amen. 00:03:13.62\00:03:17.13 His father smiled, then walking through the mess 00:03:17.36\00:03:21.00 he picked up his crying son, and hugged him and loved 00:03:21.20\00:03:25.90 him getting his own pajamas white and sticky 00:03:26.10\00:03:29.97 in the process. Don't you like that pancake story. 00:03:30.17\00:03:34.98 Because that's how God deals with us. 00:03:35.18\00:03:38.45 We try to do something good in life, 00:03:38.68\00:03:41.05 but it turns into the mess. 00:03:41.25\00:03:42.75 Our marriage gets all sticky or we insult a friend, 00:03:42.98\00:03:47.22 or we can't send our job or health goes sour. 00:03:47.42\00:03:51.69 Sometimes we just stand there in tears 00:03:51.89\00:03:54.20 because we can't think of anything else to do. 00:03:54.40\00:03:56.33 That's when God stands and smiles and he reminds us 00:03:56.53\00:04:02.00 that he is with us, and he picks us up 00:04:02.20\00:04:04.91 but he gets himself, get some of the mess 00:04:05.14\00:04:07.88 all over him, himself in the process. Amen. 00:04:08.08\00:04:11.48 What a wonderful God. Beautiful. 00:04:11.68\00:04:13.25 I called that a pancake story, but really it's a 00:04:13.45\00:04:16.22 story of our friend, our greatest friend meeting us. 00:04:16.42\00:04:21.12 Yes. At a time of great need. 00:04:21.36\00:04:23.73 Yes. Have you ever felt like that Kelly? 00:04:23.96\00:04:26.29 Oh yes many times in our life. 00:04:26.49\00:04:28.36 We all have. I think so. 00:04:28.60\00:04:29.66 We all have. That's part of being 00:04:29.93\00:04:31.97 part of the human race. That's right. 00:04:32.17\00:04:34.34 God created us to have that need, and especially 00:04:34.54\00:04:36.44 when we are hurting, when we need him. 00:04:36.64\00:04:38.87 Because he knows he can fill it. 00:04:39.11\00:04:40.58 Its right and you know Ruthie sometimes I think 00:04:40.81\00:04:43.24 that it's in those needs when we feel so inadequate, 00:04:43.45\00:04:47.42 sometimes we don't feel like our prayers are getting 00:04:47.62\00:04:50.49 past the ceiling. You ever had that happen? 00:04:50.69\00:04:52.72 Sure. I know sometimes it happens in my life 00:04:52.95\00:04:55.96 and I had other people share with me, 00:04:56.19\00:04:57.99 that sometimes it's like I just don't think 00:04:58.26\00:05:00.10 my prayers are getting past the ceiling in my room, 00:05:00.30\00:05:02.93 and you know sometimes I think there is prayer; 00:05:03.16\00:05:05.57 things that block prayer in our lives. 00:05:05.77\00:05:08.14 I believe that too. And I think the enemy wants 00:05:08.37\00:05:11.64 us to think that when we are praying we are wasting 00:05:11.97\00:05:14.41 our time because he trembles when we pray. 00:05:14.61\00:05:17.41 Yes. That's the one thing that 00:05:17.61\00:05:19.45 really gets him running. Amen. 00:05:19.65\00:05:22.28 So it's the most powerful weapon we have. 00:05:22.48\00:05:24.55 You know one of my favorite verses on prayer over 00:05:24.79\00:05:27.92 there in second Chronicles 7, you know the verse 00:05:28.16\00:05:30.69 'if my people, who are called by my name, 00:05:30.93\00:05:34.40 will humble themselves and pray and seek my face 00:05:34.60\00:05:37.43 and turn from their wicked ways'. 00:05:37.63\00:05:39.03 And you know I think that's one of the real keys 00:05:39.27\00:05:42.37 in that verse is turning from my wicked ways 00:05:42.57\00:05:45.07 because sometimes we hang on to those sins 00:05:45.31\00:05:48.98 or those situations, that God is desiring 00:05:49.21\00:05:51.05 to heal us from or perhaps he already has 00:05:51.28\00:05:53.68 and we haven't let go of it, sometimes we are good 00:05:53.95\00:05:55.95 at hanging on too to the residue of it, you know. 00:05:56.18\00:05:58.25 That's true Kelly and sometimes face it 00:05:58.45\00:06:01.79 sin can be fun, and we forget though 00:06:02.02\00:06:06.43 that this is the dead end street, 00:06:06.66\00:06:08.30 and the joy that Jesus gives lasts forever. 00:06:08.56\00:06:11.93 That's right. So there is such a big, big difference. 00:06:12.17\00:06:15.27 That's right, the enemy wants us to think 00:06:15.50\00:06:18.17 this is all there is, enjoy it, this is going 00:06:18.37\00:06:21.48 to make you happy, it never does. 00:06:21.71\00:06:22.98 But there is so much more. These beautiful promises 00:06:23.21\00:06:25.55 over here in Revelation about the over comers 00:06:25.78\00:06:28.08 you know which one I am talking about. 00:06:28.32\00:06:29.82 There is so many of them throughout especially 00:06:29.82\00:06:31.55 in those first couple of chapters of Revelation. 00:06:31.55\00:06:33.46 Special promises to be overcome. 00:06:33.72\00:06:35.49 That's right, what God is gonna do for those 00:06:35.69\00:06:36.99 who overcome, and the right to eat 00:06:37.19\00:06:40.26 from the tree of life to wear the robe into, 00:06:40.50\00:06:42.90 Oh, I just can't imagine but you know God desires. 00:06:43.10\00:06:46.80 Big, big promises. And he desires that for us now 00:06:47.04\00:06:49.20 to be over comers now, and its through his abiding 00:06:49.44\00:06:52.57 presence in us, and his desire to make us whole, 00:06:52.77\00:06:56.21 and make us clean, and then we know that when we go 00:06:56.44\00:06:59.35 before him with our prayers, 00:06:59.55\00:07:00.52 that we go with clean hands. That's right. 00:07:00.75\00:07:03.02 And a clean heart. And we know he is listening. 00:07:03.25\00:07:05.55 That's right, no fears that he as scripture says 00:07:05.75\00:07:09.66 in the second Chronicles 'Then I will hear from heaven, 00:07:09.86\00:07:13.23 and then I will hear your prayers' 00:07:13.46\00:07:15.03 and you know sometimes we do need to clean up 00:07:15.26\00:07:18.37 ourselves but then confession is part of prayer anyway. 00:07:18.57\00:07:21.87 That's right. So that's a it's a great way to start 00:07:22.07\00:07:24.11 our prayers I think is to really empty ourselves 00:07:24.37\00:07:26.27 and clean ourselves up before the Lord. 00:07:26.51\00:07:28.54 That's right, that's right, and you know 00:07:28.81\00:07:31.78 God is so faithful because he says 00:07:32.01\00:07:34.12 there are conditions and if you meet these 00:07:34.35\00:07:36.99 conditions you are going to be amazed. 00:07:37.19\00:07:40.06 Amen. You are going to be so blessed and you 00:07:40.29\00:07:42.22 are going to realize what pardon is all about. 00:07:42.46\00:07:46.73 Amen, that's right. 00:07:46.96\00:07:48.33 I just learned something about pardon Kelly 00:07:48.56\00:07:53.34 that really affected me at a deep level. 00:07:53.57\00:07:58.14 When a fellow is pardoned, 00:07:58.34\00:08:01.38 that means and that doesn't happen very often, 00:08:01.61\00:08:05.15 but when they are given they are granted a pardon, 00:08:05.38\00:08:09.85 that means that actually the officials at the pardon 00:08:10.09\00:08:14.32 board go back and they take out all of those records. 00:08:14.56\00:08:17.93 They are destroyed, so that if you went back 00:08:18.16\00:08:21.66 to check up on somebody who had been 00:08:21.90\00:08:23.47 in a penitentiary or some penal institution but 00:08:23.67\00:08:27.50 who had received a pardon, those records are gone. 00:08:27.74\00:08:30.74 Amen. There is nothing to prove that, that ever 00:08:30.97\00:08:33.98 happened, and that's how God deals with us. 00:08:34.18\00:08:36.54 Amen. He just, he takes our sins, and he cleanses us 00:08:36.88\00:08:42.38 because of the power of the blood of Jesus. 00:08:42.65\00:08:45.92 Amen. What an amazing thing. 00:08:46.15\00:08:47.66 And throws them into the depth of the sea 00:08:47.92\00:08:49.79 as though they never happened. 00:08:50.09\00:08:51.16 That's right. And yet why as human beings, 00:08:51.43\00:08:53.50 why do we still hang on to them sometimes. 00:08:53.73\00:08:56.06 You know what I mean, sometimes we take our 00:08:56.36\00:08:58.83 problems to the foot of the cross, 00:08:59.07\00:09:00.74 but then when we get up we take them with us. 00:09:01.00\00:09:03.64 And may be we don't realize what a great thing 00:09:03.91\00:09:07.04 has just happened, and that this is truly 00:09:07.31\00:09:09.98 a transaction in heaven and this really 00:09:10.21\00:09:12.75 that we really are forgiven. That's right. 00:09:12.98\00:09:15.42 And if we went back to find those records, 00:09:15.65\00:09:17.59 they would be destroyed. 00:09:17.89\00:09:19.45 That's right. And we need to let our minds 00:09:19.69\00:09:21.62 picture that, to accept that. That's right. 00:09:21.86\00:09:23.59 That in God's time and his way they are gone, 00:09:23.79\00:09:27.66 they are not there anymore. 00:09:27.86\00:09:29.26 Have you seen that Kelly in your life or the life 00:09:29.46\00:09:31.97 of your friends or tell us a story about something 00:09:32.17\00:09:35.07 that you have seen, that helped you to realize God's 00:09:35.27\00:09:38.64 forgiveness is real and powerful, may be there is 00:09:38.87\00:09:41.64 somebody that you knew that experienced this. 00:09:41.88\00:09:44.71 Well I know that in my own life number of years ago 00:09:44.95\00:09:49.65 I was in a bad space in my life, and some things, 00:09:49.88\00:09:53.66 some circumstances had happened that led me to make 00:09:53.86\00:09:56.93 a decision that, its one of those kinds of decisions 00:09:57.16\00:10:00.46 that when you are faced with it and you wonder, 00:10:00.70\00:10:02.63 sometimes you don't think way out ahead of 00:10:02.90\00:10:05.37 where the consequences of that decision are going 00:10:05.60\00:10:07.30 to take you. But at the time I was young, 00:10:07.54\00:10:10.44 and I was a single parent and had just 00:10:10.67\00:10:12.87 a little one at home, and I had fallen into the pit 00:10:13.07\00:10:17.78 of sin and sometimes that happens to us 00:10:17.98\00:10:20.72 even Christians fall into the pit of sin sometimes. 00:10:20.92\00:10:23.99 That's right. And during that time in my life, 00:10:24.22\00:10:26.22 I had a short term relationship and ended up 00:10:26.45\00:10:30.99 getting pregnant, and I felt at a time in my life, 00:10:31.19\00:10:33.90 where I just couldn't handle having another baby 00:10:34.10\00:10:38.13 to deal with, and there was many factors 00:10:38.37\00:10:41.24 that went into the decision that I made 00:10:41.47\00:10:43.71 to have an abortion, and that was a real tough time 00:10:43.97\00:10:47.21 in my life because knowing obviously that it was wrong 00:10:47.44\00:10:50.58 but learning to understand forgiveness 00:10:50.81\00:10:54.72 and the real depth of forgiveness that God has. 00:10:54.98\00:10:57.59 And now many years later I have had the opportunity, 00:10:57.82\00:11:00.99 number of occasions to minister to other woman 00:11:01.22\00:11:05.86 who have been in that situation. 00:11:06.09\00:11:07.56 That's fine. Many times people think 00:11:07.83\00:11:09.66 well you know I have gone too far beyond God's grace 00:11:09.90\00:11:13.67 and God's forgiveness. But praise the Lord 00:11:13.97\00:11:16.77 we can never go beyond his arm and his loving heart 00:11:17.01\00:11:21.94 of forgiveness no matter what we have done, that 00:11:22.18\00:11:24.05 there is always forgiveness and grace and pardon. 00:11:24.28\00:11:26.18 And so when I hear the explanation of pardon 00:11:26.41\00:11:29.12 it is though it never happened, and it's erased, 00:11:29.35\00:11:32.72 the pain is still there at times when you think 00:11:32.99\00:11:36.16 on it, but the sin is gone. Isn't that beautiful. 00:11:36.39\00:11:39.39 Yes. God is so good to us. 00:11:39.69\00:11:40.80 That is powerful. And you know Kelly I just believe 00:11:40.80\00:11:43.33 that because that kind of thing is so prevalent today, 00:11:43.57\00:11:47.57 there are many people out there who have 00:11:47.77\00:11:52.17 experienced this very same situations. Yes. 00:11:52.37\00:11:55.51 We were with the National Prayer Committee in Miami 00:11:55.78\00:11:58.68 about a year ago, and we were driving on the bus 00:11:59.01\00:12:02.88 prayer driving for the city of Miami, 00:12:03.12\00:12:05.69 that is a city, where there is a huge ratio 00:12:05.92\00:12:10.59 when you compare large cities and the numbers 00:12:10.83\00:12:14.20 of abortions that are done Chicago, New York, 00:12:14.40\00:12:18.57 Miami is way up here on a graph. 00:12:18.80\00:12:20.94 I can't explain the reason, but people 00:12:21.17\00:12:23.54 go there for that purpose. Yes 00:12:23.74\00:12:25.67 And so we were prayer driving in this bus. 00:12:25.94\00:12:30.15 We were praying for the people who were going 00:12:30.38\00:12:34.38 through this experiences that are so damaging. 00:12:34.62\00:12:36.89 That's right. And so hurtful, and the people 00:12:37.15\00:12:42.02 on the bus were saying okay that looks like a spa 00:12:42.29\00:12:46.19 that's actually an abortion clinic. 00:12:46.49\00:12:49.23 You know the outside didn't look like anything illegal 00:12:49.50\00:12:53.34 but that's just that's what it is, and they set up 00:12:53.57\00:12:57.87 these abortion clinics across from high schools 00:12:58.07\00:13:00.98 and they put young girls on birth control pills 00:13:01.21\00:13:05.68 knowing it is a low dosage and they will have them 00:13:05.91\00:13:10.05 as customers, as patients. And it makes your heart 00:13:10.25\00:13:13.86 ache when you realize the pain that's involved 00:13:14.12\00:13:16.86 and Kelly I see you and you are such a strong woman 00:13:17.09\00:13:23.16 of God. To me that is such a powerful testimony 00:13:23.37\00:13:27.67 that God doesn't care what he 00:13:27.87\00:13:31.17 saves us from, he just saves us. That's right, amen. 00:13:31.37\00:13:35.11 And this gives us the empathy to work with people 00:13:35.31\00:13:40.22 who are in deep hurt and where my sins are different; 00:13:40.52\00:13:46.62 I couldn't say to someone who has had an abortion, 00:13:46.86\00:13:50.19 I understand, I understand how you are really 00:13:50.39\00:13:54.30 hurting inside. I understand when you think 00:13:54.56\00:13:57.13 about that child and wonder you know what he or she 00:13:57.37\00:14:01.44 would be like now. I can't understand I can't go 00:14:01.64\00:14:04.77 with them there. My sins are different, 00:14:05.01\00:14:07.04 but in God's eyes they are no better. 00:14:07.28\00:14:09.68 That's exactly right. They are no better. Yes. 00:14:09.91\00:14:11.91 But when God saves you he does something 00:14:12.18\00:14:15.72 he massages your heart, and he gives you the ability 00:14:15.95\00:14:19.12 then to reach other people and to say I've been there 00:14:19.39\00:14:23.32 I know a God who heals. Amen. 00:14:23.56\00:14:26.23 And no matter where you are today, 00:14:26.49\00:14:28.93 I can reach down, that's how God deals with us. 00:14:29.16\00:14:33.03 Amen. And you know Ruthie I was blessed to have 00:14:33.27\00:14:35.90 loving parents, still I am blessed to have loving 00:14:36.10\00:14:39.71 parents, who supported me through that, 00:14:39.91\00:14:43.35 though it wasn't their choice for me, 00:14:43.58\00:14:45.78 but they supported and never stopped loving me, 00:14:46.01\00:14:48.12 and they gave me the picture of God 00:14:48.38\00:14:53.22 which we are supposed to be able to give unconditional 00:14:53.42\00:14:55.76 love from our earthly parents, but I know 00:14:55.99\00:14:58.56 that there are many young girls and women out there 00:14:58.76\00:15:01.86 who are not as blessed to have earthly parents 00:15:02.10\00:15:06.07 who give them that unconditional love, 00:15:06.27\00:15:07.60 and it's specially those woman, that are close 00:15:07.84\00:15:11.71 to my heart when you hear things like this happening. 00:15:11.94\00:15:13.84 You know so many times we hear, we hear it 00:15:14.08\00:15:16.08 on the news and it always seems to be about the 00:15:16.28\00:15:19.11 demonstrations and the anti-abortions and all of that. 00:15:19.31\00:15:22.72 But what about the true emotion, 00:15:22.95\00:15:25.35 and the pain that those girls are dealing with. 00:15:25.85\00:15:28.62 Our nervous system Kelly when God created us, 00:15:29.19\00:15:32.86 our nervous system was not made to endure 00:15:33.13\00:15:37.03 this kind of trauma. No. 00:15:37.27\00:15:38.77 And so when your body is assaulted, and it affects 00:15:39.03\00:15:44.01 every part of you, it affects your mind, 00:15:44.21\00:15:46.68 your emotions, it effects your heart, 00:15:46.88\00:15:49.94 you know and how you deal then 00:15:50.21\00:15:51.98 with people from then on. Yes. 00:15:52.18\00:15:53.65 So people I think who have experienced this kind 00:15:53.88\00:15:57.89 of pain at this deep level, need to have somebody 00:15:58.19\00:16:02.96 come alongside and say there is a God. That's right. 00:16:03.16\00:16:05.96 In heaven who can heal and who can put you back 00:16:06.16\00:16:09.46 on the right track. You may feel like there is no 00:16:09.66\00:16:12.97 hope for you but he can bring you back 00:16:13.17\00:16:14.90 and give you new life. Amen. 00:16:15.20\00:16:18.44 And this is really what the resurrection is all about. 00:16:18.67\00:16:20.91 When Christ died for you, and he rose again 00:16:21.14\00:16:24.05 he said he will give us the power because of the 00:16:24.28\00:16:29.65 resurrection, he will give us the power 00:16:29.85\00:16:31.62 to walk in newness of life. Amen. 00:16:31.85\00:16:34.06 No matter, no matter where you have been, 00:16:34.29\00:16:37.03 you will always be special to him. 00:16:37.29\00:16:39.26 Amen. You know I heard said once; it's not prayer 00:16:39.46\00:16:44.27 that God answers its people 00:16:44.47\00:16:45.93 and right relationships with him. 00:16:46.20\00:16:48.34 Oh yes. I love that thought because God is desiring 00:16:48.54\00:16:51.61 to clean up every corner, every little centimeter 00:16:51.84\00:16:54.81 of our hearts and our souls on the inside, 00:16:55.01\00:16:58.15 and when we let him, when we allow him to do that 00:16:58.38\00:17:01.62 to come in and to clean us up, and to have that 00:17:01.82\00:17:05.95 vital connection with him where we just don't want 00:17:06.15\00:17:08.32 anything separating our souls from our savior, 00:17:08.52\00:17:11.39 isn't that beautiful that thought and to know 00:17:11.63\00:17:13.60 that he desires to do that in his own gentle way. 00:17:13.80\00:17:16.36 That's right. His gentle way along with his 00:17:16.56\00:17:18.80 unconditional love that he comes in and does that, 00:17:19.00\00:17:21.27 and when we allow him then I believe our prayers 00:17:21.50\00:17:24.07 can take on the form of like earth moving power 00:17:24.31\00:17:29.04 because God is really pouring his power into that 00:17:29.28\00:17:32.68 because now he says hey there is my child 00:17:32.91\00:17:35.18 and she is in the right relationship. 00:17:35.42\00:17:36.95 She is living in the right relationship with me, 00:17:37.19\00:17:38.89 not in her own strength through the righteousness 00:17:39.12\00:17:41.82 and the power of Christ living in us, 00:17:42.02\00:17:43.76 and she is praying, she is asking for something 00:17:43.99\00:17:46.86 that I would love to give her the desires 00:17:47.10\00:17:48.60 of her heart, that's Gods desire for us. 00:17:48.83\00:17:51.23 I believe that, and you know Kelly we talk so much 00:17:51.47\00:17:54.97 about the woman who has gone through this 00:17:55.20\00:17:58.07 but often it's very traumatic and very painful 00:17:58.41\00:18:02.28 for the men involved because sometimes that decision 00:18:02.48\00:18:07.08 for the abortion is done together, and sometimes 00:18:07.32\00:18:10.75 the men will apply undue pressure. Yes. 00:18:10.99\00:18:14.19 To make sure that's done, and then he will look back 00:18:14.46\00:18:17.69 and say what I've done but it's too late. 00:18:17.93\00:18:20.46 And so both people are equally involved although 00:18:20.70\00:18:26.20 one has more physical scars and may be more 00:18:26.43\00:18:30.57 emotional scars, it's hard to tell, but it is a very 00:18:30.77\00:18:33.81 traumatic experience for both. And so when we deal 00:18:34.08\00:18:39.05 with healing it needs to be for both. That's right. 00:18:39.28\00:18:43.15 Both people. That's right. 00:18:43.39\00:18:44.52 And God takes our scars and turns them into blessings, 00:18:44.52\00:18:46.79 isn't that awesome that he does that for us. 00:18:47.02\00:18:49.46 Amen. How did you come to the realization of for 00:18:49.69\00:18:55.76 healing from this because you don't carry those scars, 00:18:56.00\00:18:59.43 I mean I know you. You hold your head high 00:18:59.70\00:19:03.57 and you are such a blessing to other people. 00:19:03.77\00:19:06.44 You know who you are in Christ, and God has taught 00:19:06.71\00:19:09.64 you that, but how, I just want to say for the benefit 00:19:09.88\00:19:13.52 of someone out there today who doesn't have that 00:19:13.75\00:19:17.55 assurance, where how did God do that for you. 00:19:17.79\00:19:21.86 By teaching me and leading me into that 00:19:22.09\00:19:26.49 relationship with him that abiding relationship 00:19:26.70\00:19:29.13 with him, that he loved me beyond human 00:19:29.33\00:19:32.87 comprehension of love, the ability to comprehend it 00:19:33.07\00:19:35.80 that he just loved me far beyond that, 00:19:36.04\00:19:37.77 and there was so much more that he wanted 00:19:38.01\00:19:39.24 to do for me, that I didn't have to live in the past, 00:19:39.44\00:19:41.51 and hang on to the past. You know having experienced 00:19:41.78\00:19:46.38 some childhood sexual abuse that kind of let up 00:19:46.58\00:19:50.05 to all of that sometimes they go hand in hand 00:19:50.29\00:19:52.25 all of that was emotional roller coaster. 00:19:52.49\00:19:57.09 It's not an excuse and it's not a reason, but 00:19:57.33\00:19:58.39 sometimes these are predisposing factors. 00:19:58.59\00:20:00.76 That's right. And they pave the way. 00:20:00.96\00:20:04.03 That's right. To make those kind of things easier. 00:20:04.27\00:20:05.93 And so God desires to come in and heal all of that, 00:20:06.17\00:20:08.80 and that's what he did for me, and again you know 00:20:09.04\00:20:11.34 I have very supportive parents, 00:20:11.54\00:20:13.51 and the fact that their love never wavered for me. 00:20:13.74\00:20:17.95 I think that also was a big part of the journey 00:20:18.18\00:20:23.42 being able to understand that God does love me 00:20:23.65\00:20:25.99 because my parents love me. 00:20:26.19\00:20:27.76 You know I really believe that Kelly, there was a 00:20:28.02\00:20:31.79 mother who told, I heard about this story in Korea. 00:20:32.06\00:20:36.40 Her daughter became a prostitute, and she was a 00:20:36.63\00:20:40.77 shame to the family and they dealt with her 00:20:40.97\00:20:44.54 in every way they could, they tried money, 00:20:44.77\00:20:47.48 they tried coaxing, and prayer and a scolding, 00:20:47.68\00:20:51.95 and everything that they knew. But she still felt 00:20:52.18\00:20:56.38 very dirty and very used and not very pretty. 00:20:56.62\00:21:02.59 And the pastor talked to the mother, and she said 00:21:02.82\00:21:06.19 thank God, the pastor said to the mother, 00:21:06.43\00:21:09.03 he said thank God everyday that you have been given 00:21:09.26\00:21:13.50 a beautiful, beautiful daughter; she brought you 00:21:13.70\00:21:16.04 a lot of joy, so just thank God for this 00:21:16.27\00:21:19.81 beautiful daughter. She doesn't feel beautiful, 00:21:20.04\00:21:22.08 but I'd like to help her feel beautiful. 00:21:22.31\00:21:24.65 While the daughter almost committed suicide 00:21:24.88\00:21:27.35 when she finally reached the bottom and she realized 00:21:27.62\00:21:30.69 who she was and she couldn't go on 00:21:30.92\00:21:33.72 facing herself like this. So she was going to come 00:21:33.99\00:21:36.59 home, and tell her mother goodbye, but her mother 00:21:36.83\00:21:39.33 met her at the door like the prodigal son, 00:21:39.59\00:21:42.06 the father of the prodigal son, and she said here 00:21:42.33\00:21:45.07 comes my beautiful daughter, here is my beautiful 00:21:45.30\00:21:48.37 girl, and she said you've brought me so much joy all 00:21:48.64\00:21:51.51 your life, and her daughter said wait, wait mom, 00:21:51.74\00:21:56.18 I have to end it all, I can't stand myself, 00:21:56.41\00:22:00.78 and her mother said oh come on in I want to fix 00:22:01.02\00:22:04.59 you a nice breakfast and we can talk later 00:22:04.79\00:22:07.06 but I just want you to get some rest. 00:22:07.26\00:22:08.99 She took her into her old room, and opened her bed 00:22:09.26\00:22:12.26 and said just get some rest after she had a nice 00:22:12.49\00:22:14.83 breakfast and she would not let her daughter speak 00:22:15.00\00:22:19.10 anything negative. She just said God has given me 00:22:19.33\00:22:22.34 a beautiful girl, and I want you to see that 00:22:22.57\00:22:25.54 he sees you are beautiful. He can forgive, and heal, 00:22:25.81\00:22:29.68 and make you hollow. And this is our mighty 00:22:29.94\00:22:33.18 and loving God. That's right 00:22:33.48\00:22:35.42 So the girl stayed there at her home, and never did 00:22:35.65\00:22:40.62 follow through of course on the suicide attempt 00:22:40.82\00:22:42.96 that she had planned in her mind, but she started 00:22:43.19\00:22:46.19 going to church with her parents and slowly the 00:22:46.43\00:22:50.43 message of the Gospel washed over her and reached 00:22:50.67\00:22:54.20 the deepest parts of her painful heart 00:22:54.47\00:22:57.01 and brought hope and healing. 00:22:57.24\00:22:59.67 I think this is what people are looking for today, 00:22:59.91\00:23:02.21 who have experienced to these deep hurts, 00:23:02.44\00:23:05.65 and deep pains in their life. They need to know that 00:23:05.88\00:23:10.12 there is hope, and there is hope nowhere but in God. 00:23:10.35\00:23:14.59 You know for me Ruthie I was doer, someone who 00:23:14.82\00:23:18.63 likes to keep busy, and then by doing, by being 00:23:18.86\00:23:22.26 that kind of personality, I didn't think about it, 00:23:22.46\00:23:25.13 I didn't let myself think about it, 00:23:25.37\00:23:26.77 I just put a lot of distance and a lot of busyness. 00:23:26.97\00:23:30.07 You pushed in the back between me and many issues from 00:23:30.31\00:23:33.68 my past. It's the form of denial. 00:23:33.88\00:23:36.04 It's a denial, its kind of you know escaping it 00:23:36.28\00:23:38.81 and just moving on, and I think that's okay 00:23:39.11\00:23:42.75 sometimes because may be that's the only way that 00:23:42.98\00:23:44.85 we get through and we can cope and fill our lives 00:23:45.09\00:23:47.79 with busyness. And even sometimes the busyness 00:23:47.99\00:23:50.66 of ministry and early on before I was involved 00:23:50.89\00:23:54.73 in prayer ministries when I was working 00:23:54.96\00:23:57.07 in my church in the youth department in different 00:23:57.30\00:23:59.13 places, I was busy, just always busy doing things. 00:23:59.37\00:24:02.27 And truly I believe that I had kind of record the 00:24:02.54\00:24:06.88 Damuscus road experienced when the Lord really 00:24:07.08\00:24:09.28 got a hold of me, and said are you really, 00:24:09.51\00:24:11.58 are you ready to let me heal you and do what I want 00:24:11.81\00:24:16.05 to do through you. You don't have to. 00:24:16.28\00:24:18.25 At deep level. That's right you don't have just stay 00:24:18.45\00:24:20.29 surface anymore, that we can go, we can just do as 00:24:20.62\00:24:24.79 his words says exceedingly abundantly more than 00:24:25.03\00:24:28.23 we could ever ask or think and I couldn't imagine 00:24:28.46\00:24:30.90 that he would want to do that through me, 00:24:31.13\00:24:32.90 why would he want to do that through me. 00:24:33.17\00:24:34.50 But as I began to sit still, I think of that verse 00:24:34.74\00:24:38.07 from Isaiah, where it says in quietness 00:24:38.31\00:24:39.97 and confidence is our strength. Yes. 00:24:40.24\00:24:43.48 And sometimes you are sitting still in the presence 00:24:43.71\00:24:46.65 of the Lord. By beholding we become change, 00:24:46.85\00:24:49.05 and so it was really my devotional life experience 00:24:49.32\00:24:52.45 when God took me into really having a devotional life, 00:24:52.69\00:24:55.32 it was at that those moments of spending that time, 00:24:55.56\00:24:59.19 that quiet time with him, that the healing took place. 00:24:59.39\00:25:02.26 Amen. You know, I don't know if this applies to you 00:25:02.50\00:25:07.54 but it applies to many Christians today. 00:25:07.80\00:25:09.87 When you have been involved in some sin 00:25:10.11\00:25:13.11 that you are, that has been a disgrace in your life, 00:25:13.38\00:25:17.21 and something that you don't want to face, 00:25:17.45\00:25:18.58 and a lot of sins are that way. Not just the ones 00:25:18.85\00:25:22.18 we've been talking about today, but you can feel 00:25:22.38\00:25:25.65 so disgraced and so ashamed of what has happened 00:25:25.99\00:25:30.53 that you somehow feel like you 00:25:30.79\00:25:32.93 have to make this up to God. 00:25:33.13\00:25:34.46 Yes. And so sometimes people in ministry 00:25:34.66\00:25:37.63 are busy, busy, busy doing things because 00:25:37.87\00:25:41.50 they feel like I've to somehow make up for the past. 00:25:41.74\00:25:45.04 I've to atone for the past, I've to be good enough 00:25:45.27\00:25:48.74 so that God will, will meet me. 00:25:48.98\00:25:52.18 And that really is getting things backwards. 00:25:52.38\00:25:55.45 That's right. We cannot buy our busyness 00:25:55.68\00:25:58.35 or ministry be good enough, so that God will like us. 00:25:58.59\00:26:02.02 He already loves us. 00:26:02.29\00:26:04.39 That is so true, that is so true, and that's probably 00:26:04.66\00:26:05.99 exactly what I was doing for God desires to take us 00:26:06.26\00:26:09.26 to that point of breaking and melting, and molting, 00:26:09.50\00:26:12.60 and filling like the little song that we sing this 00:26:12.87\00:26:15.04 morning. What a beautiful picture that is of God's 00:26:15.24\00:26:17.67 desire for us, you know to break us 00:26:17.87\00:26:19.51 and then begin to reshape us. Yes. 00:26:19.74\00:26:21.34 And mould us into a vessel that he can use. 00:26:21.58\00:26:23.88 And we have to ask him for the spirit of brokenness. 00:26:24.11\00:26:27.02 Amen. Because he wants to break us, so he can 00:26:27.28\00:26:29.42 cleans us. There is a wonderful song about a 00:26:29.65\00:26:34.09 prostitute who comes to church, and she goes up to 00:26:34.29\00:26:37.79 the altar and kneels, and then she comes back radiant 00:26:38.03\00:26:41.86 and in there is somebody sitting not too far from her 00:26:42.16\00:26:45.93 in the pew and he hears her say aloud, 00:26:46.20\00:26:49.64 I just want to be near you, I just want 00:26:49.87\00:26:52.71 to be with you. And after church they were talking 00:26:52.94\00:26:57.78 together out in the lawn, and he said to her, 00:26:57.98\00:27:00.22 I heard what you said, I had to hear, and he said 00:27:00.45\00:27:03.85 it just made me feel good about what you said to God, 00:27:04.05\00:27:06.22 and she said no, I wasn't saying that to God. 00:27:06.45\00:27:09.79 I felt that that was what he was saying to me. 00:27:10.09\00:27:13.40 Amen. So she understood, she got it, and she was 00:27:13.66\00:27:18.60 saying I know that God just wants to be with me. 00:27:18.83\00:27:21.87 Amen. And forgive me and bless me. 00:27:22.10\00:27:23.94 We've talked today, our time is running out, 00:27:24.21\00:27:28.84 it goes so fast, but we've talked today about 00:27:29.11\00:27:32.21 some things that really affect a lot of us in life. 00:27:32.48\00:27:37.32 There is so many things that we do that disappoint us. 00:27:37.69\00:27:41.06 Yes. And disappoint God, but he says don't get 00:27:41.29\00:27:45.83 the cart before the horse, come to me first. 00:27:46.06\00:27:48.76 Amen. All you who are weary and heavy-laden 00:27:49.00\00:27:52.53 I will give you rest. Amen. 00:27:52.77\00:27:55.40 I will even help you confess and forsake 00:27:55.64\00:27:59.27 and I will give you the power to overcome. 00:27:59.51\00:28:02.38 Yes. What a wonderful God. I hope you've been 00:28:02.61\00:28:05.35 encouraged as I have by Kelly story today. 00:28:05.58\00:28:09.18 So be blessed. We will see you again. 00:28:09.45\00:28:12.09