Hello it's good to see
you. Do you like pancakes?
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We have a pancake story
and somebody who made them.
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I love this story. See
you we will be right back.
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Before we get
into the pancake story.
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I have something that I
think you are gonna really
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like. It made such sense to me.
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It comes from the little
book 'Praying God's Word'
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by Beth Moore. Listen
to this, just a couple
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of short sentences
but they are powerful.
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Faith is not believing in
my own unshakeable belief.
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I want to repeat that because
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I think it is so powerful.
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Faith is not believing in
my own unshakeable belief,
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faith is believing
in unshakeable God.
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When everything in
me trembles and quakes.
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Ever you feel like
that. My guest today is
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Kelly Veilleux, from
Waterville, Maine. Welcome.
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Thank you. Kelly I
promised the pancake story.
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Yes. Have you heard
it? I don't think so.
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Want to hear it. Yes, please.
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Alright this is it. Six
year old Brandon decided
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one Sunday morning to
fix pancakes for his parents.
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He found a big bowl and a spoon,
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pulled a chair to the
counter, open the cupboard
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and pull out the heavy
flour canisters spilling
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it on the floor. So
already we have a scene.
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He scooped up some of
the flour into the bowl
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with his hands mixed in
most of a couple of milk,
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added some sugar leaving
a floury trail on the floor,
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which by now had a few
tracks left by his kitten.
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Brandon was covered with
flour and getting frustrated.
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He wanted this to
be something very good
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for his mom and dad,
but it was getting very bad.
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He didn't know what to
do next whether to put all
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in the oven or on the
stove, and he didn't know
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how the stove worked.
Suddenly he saw his kitten
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licking from the bowl
of mix, and reached to push
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her away knocking the
egg carton to the floor.
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Frantically he tried to
clean up this monumental mess
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but slipped on the
eggs. He slipped on the eggs
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getting his little
pajamas white and sticky.
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And just then he saw
dad standing at the door.
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Big crocodile tears
held up in Brandon's eyes.
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All he wanted to do
was to do something good,
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and he made a terrible
mess. Ever feel like that.
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He was sure scolding was coming
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may be even a spanking but his
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father just stood
there and watched him. Amen.
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His father smiled, then
walking through the mess
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he picked up his crying
son, and hugged him and loved
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him getting his own
pajamas white and sticky
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in the process. Don't
you like that pancake story.
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Because that's
how God deals with us.
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We try to do
something good in life,
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but it turns into the mess.
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Our marriage gets all
sticky or we insult a friend,
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or we can't send our
job or health goes sour.
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Sometimes we just
stand there in tears
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because we can't think
of anything else to do.
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That's when God stands
and smiles and he reminds us
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that he is with
us, and he picks us up
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but he gets
himself, get some of the mess
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all over him,
himself in the process. Amen.
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What a wonderful God. Beautiful.
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I called that a pancake
story, but really it's a
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story of our friend, our
greatest friend meeting us.
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Yes. At a time of great need.
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Yes. Have you ever
felt like that Kelly?
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Oh yes many times in our life.
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We all have. I think so.
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We all have.
That's part of being
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part of the human
race. That's right.
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God created us to have
that need, and especially
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when we are
hurting, when we need him.
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Because he knows he can fill it.
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Its right and you know
Ruthie sometimes I think
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that it's in those needs
when we feel so inadequate,
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sometimes we don't feel
like our prayers are getting
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past the ceiling.
You ever had that happen?
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Sure. I know
sometimes it happens in my life
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and I had other
people share with me,
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that sometimes it's
like I just don't think
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my prayers are getting
past the ceiling in my room,
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and you know sometimes
I think there is prayer;
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things that block
prayer in our lives.
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I believe that too.
And I think the enemy wants
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us to think that when we
are praying we are wasting
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our time because he
trembles when we pray.
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Yes. That's the one thing that
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really gets him running. Amen.
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So it's the most
powerful weapon we have.
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You know one of my
favorite verses on prayer over
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there in second
Chronicles 7, you know the verse
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'if my people, who
are called by my name,
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will humble themselves
and pray and seek my face
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and turn from
their wicked ways'.
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And you know I think
that's one of the real keys
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in that verse is
turning from my wicked ways
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because sometimes we
hang on to those sins
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or those
situations, that God is desiring
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to heal us from or
perhaps he already has
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and we haven't let go of
it, sometimes we are good
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at hanging on too to
the residue of it, you know.
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That's true Kelly
and sometimes face it
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sin can be fun,
and we forget though
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that this is
the dead end street,
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and the joy that
Jesus gives lasts forever.
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That's right. So there is
such a big, big difference.
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That's right, the
enemy wants us to think
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this is all there is,
enjoy it, this is going
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to make you
happy, it never does.
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But there is so much
more. These beautiful promises
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over here in
Revelation about the over comers
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you know which one
I am talking about.
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There is so many of
them throughout especially
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in those first couple
of chapters of Revelation.
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Special promises to be overcome.
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That's right, what
God is gonna do for those
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who overcome,
and the right to eat
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from the tree of life
to wear the robe into,
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Oh, I just can't imagine
but you know God desires.
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Big, big promises. And
he desires that for us now
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to be over comers now,
and its through his abiding
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presence in us, and his
desire to make us whole,
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and make us clean, and
then we know that when we go
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before him with our prayers,
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that we go with
clean hands. That's right.
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And a clean heart. And
we know he is listening.
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That's right, no fears
that he as scripture says
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in the second Chronicles
'Then I will hear from heaven,
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and then I will
hear your prayers'
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and you know
sometimes we do need to clean up
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ourselves but then confession
is part of prayer anyway.
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That's right. So that's
a it's a great way to start
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our prayers I think is
to really empty ourselves
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and clean
ourselves up before the Lord.
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That's right,
that's right, and you know
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God is so
faithful because he says
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there are conditions
and if you meet these
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conditions you are
going to be amazed.
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Amen. You are going
to be so blessed and you
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are going to realize
what pardon is all about.
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Amen, that's right.
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I just learned
something about pardon Kelly
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that really
affected me at a deep level.
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When a fellow is pardoned,
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that means and that
doesn't happen very often,
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but when they are given
they are granted a pardon,
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that means that actually
the officials at the pardon
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board go back and they
take out all of those records.
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They are destroyed,
so that if you went back
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to check up on
somebody who had been
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in a penitentiary or
some penal institution but
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who had received a
pardon, those records are gone.
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Amen. There is nothing
to prove that, that ever
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happened, and that's
how God deals with us.
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Amen. He just, he takes
our sins, and he cleanses us
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because of the power
of the blood of Jesus.
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Amen. What an amazing thing.
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And throws them
into the depth of the sea
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as though they never happened.
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That's right. And
yet why as human beings,
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why do we still hang
on to them sometimes.
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You know what I
mean, sometimes we take our
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problems to the
foot of the cross,
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but then when we get
up we take them with us.
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And may be we don't
realize what a great thing
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has just happened,
and that this is truly
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a transaction in
heaven and this really
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that we really are
forgiven. That's right.
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And if we went back
to find those records,
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they would be destroyed.
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That's right. And we
need to let our minds
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picture that, to
accept that. That's right.
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That in God's time
and his way they are gone,
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they are not there anymore.
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Have you seen that
Kelly in your life or the life
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of your friends or tell
us a story about something
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that you have seen, that
helped you to realize God's
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forgiveness is real and
powerful, may be there is
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somebody that you
knew that experienced this.
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Well I know that in my
own life number of years ago
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I was in a bad space in
my life, and some things,
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some circumstances had
happened that led me to make
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a decision that, its one
of those kinds of decisions
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that when you are
faced with it and you wonder,
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sometimes you don't
think way out ahead of
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where the consequences
of that decision are going
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to take you. But at
the time I was young,
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and I was a single
parent and had just
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a little one at home,
and I had fallen into the pit
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of sin and
sometimes that happens to us
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even Christians fall
into the pit of sin sometimes.
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That's right. And
during that time in my life,
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I had a short term
relationship and ended up
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getting pregnant, and I
felt at a time in my life,
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where I just couldn't
handle having another baby
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to deal with, and
there was many factors
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that went into the
decision that I made
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to have an abortion, and
that was a real tough time
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in my life because knowing
obviously that it was wrong
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but learning to
understand forgiveness
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and the real depth of
forgiveness that God has.
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And now many years later
I have had the opportunity,
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number of occasions to
minister to other woman
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who have been in that situation.
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That's fine. Many
times people think
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well you know I have gone
too far beyond God's grace
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and God's
forgiveness. But praise the Lord
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we can never go beyond
his arm and his loving heart
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of forgiveness no
matter what we have done, that
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there is always forgiveness
and grace and pardon.
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And so when I hear
the explanation of pardon
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it is though it never
happened, and it's erased,
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the pain is still
there at times when you think
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on it, but the sin is
gone. Isn't that beautiful.
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Yes. God is so good to us.
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That is powerful. And
you know Kelly I just believe
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that because that kind of
thing is so prevalent today,
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there are many
people out there who have
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experienced this
very same situations. Yes.
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We were with the National
Prayer Committee in Miami
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about a year ago, and
we were driving on the bus
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prayer driving
for the city of Miami,
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that is a city,
where there is a huge ratio
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when you compare
large cities and the numbers
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of abortions that are
done Chicago, New York,
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Miami is way up here on a graph.
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I can't explain
the reason, but people
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go there for that purpose. Yes
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And so we were
prayer driving in this bus.
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We were praying for
the people who were going
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through this experiences
that are so damaging.
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That's right. And so
hurtful, and the people
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on the bus were saying
okay that looks like a spa
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that's actually
an abortion clinic.
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You know the outside didn't
look like anything illegal
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but that's just that's
what it is, and they set up
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these abortion clinics
across from high schools
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and they put young
girls on birth control pills
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knowing it is a low
dosage and they will have them
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as customers, as patients.
And it makes your heart
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ache when you realize
the pain that's involved
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and Kelly I see you and
you are such a strong woman
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of God. To me that is
such a powerful testimony
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that God doesn't care what he
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saves us from, he just
saves us. That's right, amen.
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And this gives us the
empathy to work with people
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who are in deep hurt and
where my sins are different;
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I couldn't say to
someone who has had an abortion,
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I understand, I
understand how you are really
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hurting inside. I
understand when you think
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about that child and
wonder you know what he or she
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would be like now. I
can't understand I can't go
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with them there.
My sins are different,
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but in God's eyes
they are no better.
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That's exactly right.
They are no better. Yes.
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But when God saves
you he does something
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he massages your heart,
and he gives you the ability
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then to reach other people
and to say I've been there
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I know a God who heals. Amen.
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And no matter
where you are today,
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I can reach down,
that's how God deals with us.
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Amen. And you know
Ruthie I was blessed to have
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loving parents, still I
am blessed to have loving
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parents, who
supported me through that,
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though it wasn't
their choice for me,
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but they supported and
never stopped loving me,
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and they gave me
the picture of God
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which we are supposed to
be able to give unconditional
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love from our
earthly parents, but I know
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that there are many
young girls and women out there
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who are not as blessed
to have earthly parents
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who give them that
unconditional love,
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and it's specially
those woman, that are close
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to my heart when you hear
things like this happening.
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You know so many
times we hear, we hear it
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on the news and it
always seems to be about the
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demonstrations and the
anti-abortions and all of that.
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But what about the true emotion,
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and the pain that
those girls are dealing with.
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Our nervous system
Kelly when God created us,
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our nervous system
was not made to endure
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this kind of trauma. No.
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And so when your body is
assaulted, and it affects
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every part of you,
it affects your mind,
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your emotions, it
effects your heart,
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you know and how you deal then
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with people from then on. Yes.
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So people I think who
have experienced this kind
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of pain at this deep
level, need to have somebody
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come alongside and say
there is a God. That's right.
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In heaven who can heal
and who can put you back
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on the right track. You
may feel like there is no
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hope for you but
he can bring you back
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and give you new life. Amen.
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And this is really what
the resurrection is all about.
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When Christ died for
you, and he rose again
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he said he will give us
the power because of the
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resurrection, he
will give us the power
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to walk in
newness of life. Amen.
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No matter, no
matter where you have been,
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you will always
be special to him.
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Amen. You know I heard
said once; it's not prayer
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that God answers its people
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and right
relationships with him.
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Oh yes. I love that
thought because God is desiring
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to clean up every
corner, every little centimeter
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of our hearts and
our souls on the inside,
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and when we let him,
when we allow him to do that
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to come in and to
clean us up, and to have that
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vital connection with
him where we just don't want
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anything separating
our souls from our savior,
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isn't that beautiful
that thought and to know
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that he desires to do
that in his own gentle way.
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That's right. His
gentle way along with his
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unconditional love that
he comes in and does that,
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and when we allow him
then I believe our prayers
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can take on the form
of like earth moving power
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because God is really
pouring his power into that
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because now he says
hey there is my child
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and she is in the
right relationship.
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She is living in the
right relationship with me,
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not in her own strength
through the righteousness
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and the power of
Christ living in us,
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and she is praying,
she is asking for something
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that I would love
to give her the desires
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of her heart,
that's Gods desire for us.
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I believe that, and you
know Kelly we talk so much
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about the woman who
has gone through this
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but often it's very
traumatic and very painful
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for the men involved
because sometimes that decision
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for the abortion is
done together, and sometimes
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the men will apply
undue pressure. Yes.
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To make sure that's done,
and then he will look back
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and say what I've
done but it's too late.
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And so both people are
equally involved although
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one has more
physical scars and may be more
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emotional scars, it's
hard to tell, but it is a very
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traumatic experience for
both. And so when we deal
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with healing it needs to
be for both. That's right.
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Both people. That's right.
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And God takes our scars
and turns them into blessings,
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isn't that awesome
that he does that for us.
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Amen. How did you come
to the realization of for
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healing from this because
you don't carry those scars,
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I mean I know you.
You hold your head high
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and you are such a
blessing to other people.
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You know who you are in
Christ, and God has taught
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you that, but how, I just
want to say for the benefit
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of someone out there
today who doesn't have that
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assurance, where how
did God do that for you.
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By teaching me and
leading me into that
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relationship with him
that abiding relationship
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with him, that he
loved me beyond human
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comprehension of love,
the ability to comprehend it
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that he just loved
me far beyond that,
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and there was so
much more that he wanted
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to do for me, that I
didn't have to live in the past,
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and hang on to the past.
You know having experienced
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some childhood sexual
abuse that kind of let up
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to all of that
sometimes they go hand in hand
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all of that was
emotional roller coaster.
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It's not an excuse
and it's not a reason, but
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sometimes these are
predisposing factors.
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That's right. And
they pave the way.
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That's right. To make
those kind of things easier.
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And so God desires to
come in and heal all of that,
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and that's what he did
for me, and again you know
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I have very supportive parents,
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and the fact that their
love never wavered for me.
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I think that also was
a big part of the journey
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being able to
understand that God does love me
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because my parents love me.
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You know I really
believe that Kelly, there was a
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mother who told, I heard
about this story in Korea.
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Her daughter became a
prostitute, and she was a
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shame to the family
and they dealt with her
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in every way they
could, they tried money,
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they tried coaxing,
and prayer and a scolding,
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and everything that
they knew. But she still felt
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very dirty and very
used and not very pretty.
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And the pastor talked
to the mother, and she said
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thank God, the
pastor said to the mother,
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he said thank God everyday
that you have been given
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a beautiful, beautiful
daughter; she brought you
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a lot of joy, so
just thank God for this
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beautiful daughter.
She doesn't feel beautiful,
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but I'd like to
help her feel beautiful.
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While the daughter
almost committed suicide
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when she finally reached
the bottom and she realized
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who she was and
she couldn't go on
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facing herself like
this. So she was going to come
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home, and tell her
mother goodbye, but her mother
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met her at the door
like the prodigal son,
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the father of the
prodigal son, and she said here
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comes my beautiful
daughter, here is my beautiful
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girl, and she said you've
brought me so much joy all
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your life, and her
daughter said wait, wait mom,
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I have to end it
all, I can't stand myself,
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and her mother said oh
come on in I want to fix
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you a nice breakfast
and we can talk later
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but I just want
you to get some rest.
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She took her into her
old room, and opened her bed
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and said just get some
rest after she had a nice
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breakfast and she would
not let her daughter speak
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anything negative. She
just said God has given me
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a beautiful girl, and
I want you to see that
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he sees you are beautiful.
He can forgive, and heal,
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and make you hollow.
And this is our mighty
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and loving God. That's right
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So the girl stayed there
at her home, and never did
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follow through of
course on the suicide attempt
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that she had planned in
her mind, but she started
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going to church with
her parents and slowly the
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message of the Gospel
washed over her and reached
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the deepest parts
of her painful heart
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and brought hope and healing.
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I think this is what
people are looking for today,
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who have
experienced to these deep hurts,
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and deep pains in their
life. They need to know that
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there is hope, and there
is hope nowhere but in God.
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You know for me Ruthie
I was doer, someone who
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likes to keep busy,
and then by doing, by being
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that kind of personality,
I didn't think about it,
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I didn't let
myself think about it,
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I just put a lot of
distance and a lot of busyness.
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You pushed in the back
between me and many issues from
00:23:30.35\00:23:33.70
my past. It's
the form of denial.
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It's a denial, its
kind of you know escaping it
00:23:36.32\00:23:38.86
and just moving on,
and I think that's okay
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sometimes because may
be that's the only way that
00:23:43.01\00:23:44.88
we get through and we
can cope and fill our lives
00:23:45.11\00:23:47.81
with busyness. And
even sometimes the busyness
00:23:48.03\00:23:50.68
of ministry and early
on before I was involved
00:23:50.91\00:23:54.79
in prayer
ministries when I was working
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in my church in the
youth department in different
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places, I was busy, just
always busy doing things.
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And truly I believe
that I had kind of record the
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Damuscus road
experienced when the Lord really
00:24:07.13\00:24:09.33
got a hold of me,
and said are you really,
00:24:09.56\00:24:11.62
are you ready to let me
heal you and do what I want
00:24:11.84\00:24:16.09
to do through
you. You don't have to.
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At deep level. That's
right you don't have just stay
00:24:18.49\00:24:20.32
surface anymore, that we
can go, we can just do as
00:24:20.65\00:24:24.83
his words says
exceedingly abundantly more than
00:24:25.04\00:24:28.28
we could ever ask or
think and I couldn't imagine
00:24:28.50\00:24:30.94
that he would want
to do that through me,
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why would he want
to do that through me.
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But as I began to sit
still, I think of that verse
00:24:34.78\00:24:38.11
from Isaiah, where
it says in quietness
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and confidence is
our strength. Yes.
00:24:40.28\00:24:43.53
And sometimes you are
sitting still in the presence
00:24:43.76\00:24:46.67
of the Lord. By
beholding we become change,
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and so it was really my
devotional life experience
00:24:49.34\00:24:52.48
when God took me into
really having a devotional life,
00:24:52.70\00:24:55.35
it was at that those
moments of spending that time,
00:24:55.57\00:24:59.20
that quiet time with him,
that the healing took place.
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Amen. You know, I don't
know if this applies to you
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but it applies to
many Christians today.
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When you have been
involved in some sin
00:25:10.16\00:25:13.15
that you are, that has
been a disgrace in your life,
00:25:13.42\00:25:17.26
and something that
you don't want to face,
00:25:17.48\00:25:18.61
and a lot of sins are
that way. Not just the ones
00:25:18.88\00:25:22.20
we've been talking
about today, but you can feel
00:25:22.42\00:25:25.68
so disgraced and so
ashamed of what has happened
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that you somehow feel like you
00:25:30.80\00:25:32.95
have to make this up to God.
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Yes. And so
sometimes people in ministry
00:25:34.73\00:25:37.69
are busy, busy,
busy doing things because
00:25:37.93\00:25:41.55
they feel like I've to
somehow make up for the past.
00:25:41.79\00:25:45.09
I've to atone for the
past, I've to be good enough
00:25:45.33\00:25:48.79
so that God will, will meet me.
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And that really is
getting things backwards.
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That's right. We
cannot buy our busyness
00:25:55.72\00:25:58.38
or ministry be good enough,
so that God will like us.
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He already loves us.
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That is so true, that is
so true, and that's probably
00:26:04.67\00:26:06.03
exactly what I was doing
for God desires to take us
00:26:06.29\00:26:09.32
to that point of breaking
and melting, and molting,
00:26:09.54\00:26:12.66
and filling like the
little song that we sing this
00:26:12.91\00:26:15.07
morning. What a beautiful
picture that is of God's
00:26:15.29\00:26:17.71
desire for us,
you know to break us
00:26:17.93\00:26:19.56
and then begin
to reshape us. Yes.
00:26:19.78\00:26:21.38
And mould us into a
vessel that he can use.
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And we have to ask him
for the spirit of brokenness.
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Amen. Because he
wants to break us, so he can
00:26:27.30\00:26:29.46
cleans us. There is a
wonderful song about a
00:26:29.69\00:26:34.10
prostitute who comes to
church, and she goes up to
00:26:34.33\00:26:37.81
the altar and kneels, and
then she comes back radiant
00:26:38.04\00:26:41.93
and in there is somebody
sitting not too far from her
00:26:42.21\00:26:45.99
in the pew and he
hears her say aloud,
00:26:46.24\00:26:49.67
I just want to be
near you, I just want
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to be with you. And
after church they were talking
00:26:52.99\00:26:57.80
together out in the
lawn, and he said to her,
00:26:58.03\00:27:00.25
I heard what you said,
I had to hear, and he said
00:27:00.49\00:27:03.87
it just made me feel good
about what you said to God,
00:27:04.09\00:27:06.24
and she said no, I
wasn't saying that to God.
00:27:06.48\00:27:09.83
I felt that that was
what he was saying to me.
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Amen. So she understood,
she got it, and she was
00:27:13.67\00:27:18.65
saying I know that God
just wants to be with me.
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Amen. And
forgive me and bless me.
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We've talked today,
our time is running out,
00:27:24.24\00:27:28.88
it goes so fast, but
we've talked today about
00:27:29.15\00:27:32.26
some things that really
affect a lot of us in life.
00:27:32.50\00:27:37.35
There is so many things
that we do that disappoint us.
00:27:37.70\00:27:41.09
Yes. And disappoint
God, but he says don't get
00:27:41.31\00:27:45.84
the cart before the
horse, come to me first.
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Amen. All you who
are weary and heavy-laden
00:27:49.05\00:27:52.58
I will give you rest. Amen.
00:27:52.82\00:27:55.44
I will even help
you confess and forsake
00:27:55.68\00:27:59.30
and I will give you
the power to overcome.
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Yes. What a wonderful
God. I hope you've been
00:28:02.66\00:28:05.38
encouraged as I have
by Kelly story today.
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So be blessed. We
will see you again.
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