Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Cindy Tutsch
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000381
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00:01 Hi, I am Shelley Quinn.
00:03 You know, I firmly believe that if we want 00:04 to keep the youth in the Church, we have got to 00:05 get them active for the Lord Jesus Christ. 00:08 So, please join us today for Issues and Answers 00:11 because we are going to be talking about 00:13 Spiritual leadership opportunities for you. 00:38 If you want see a young person get excited about 00:41 their relationship with the Lord Jesus. 00:43 All of you have to do is send them on missionary 00:45 trip or get them involved in Evangelism and they, 00:48 it becomes real to them. They wake up to what 00:52 Jesus can do for them and what it is all about. 00:55 And you know, I was thinking in Jeremiah 00:57 chapter 1, beginning in verse 6, when God called 01:02 Jeremiah, Jeremiah said Ah, Lord God! Behold, 01:06 I cannot speak for I am only a youth but the Lord 01:11 says in verse 7 say not I am not only a youth for 01:16 you shall go to all to whom I shall send you 01:19 and whatever I command you shall speak. 01:21 Here to speak with us today about this very 01:25 topic. This very issue is Cindy Tutsch. 01:28 Yes. And Cindy you are the 01:29 Associate Director for the Ellen White Estate 01:33 and I am so thankful that you are here. 01:36 Before we begin tell us a little bit about the Ellen 01:41 White Estate. It's in case some of our 01:43 viewers aren't familiar. Certainly, Seventh-Day 01:45 Adventist believe that. Ellen received messages 01:47 from God and they tested those messages through 01:50 the scriptures to make sure that they weren't 01:52 contradictory to the scriptures. 01:55 That we believe that all of our doctrines are 01:57 established from scriptures and not from 01:59 any outside source, but we believe that 02:01 according to Joel 2 and Effusions 4 and first 02:05 Corinthian 2 and Roman 12 that the gifted 02:07 prophecy could be one of the gifts to the Spirit 02:09 that God gives to his people at the end of time. 02:11 And Ellen White we believe received that 02:14 gift of prophecy through her 70 years of public 02:16 Ministry. Before she passed away, she wrote a 02:19 will in which she established the Ellen G. 02:22 White Estate for the purpose of preserving her 02:24 writings for taking care of the copyrights, 02:26 for making compilations on themes that will be 02:30 useful to the Church from her writings, yes, 02:32 later on and also what we do is we accept speaking 02:37 appointments from around the world to talk aboout 02:38 the gift of prophecy, to talk about principles 02:40 of how we do our interpretation. 02:42 How do you understand Ellen White's writings 02:44 and what are some misuses that could 02:47 happen from the application of her 02:49 writings and ways that are not Spiritually healthy. 02:51 So, we have a wide gamut of responsibility at the 02:57 White Estate, and my particular focus is on 02:59 youth and young adults, how do we make Ellen 03:01 White's writings useful and relevant to young 03:04 adults. Amen. Now you come 03:06 from a long background of youth Ministry, 03:09 tell us a little bit about your own personal walk 03:12 with the Lord in Ministry. 03:15 Well, I became a Christian on my decision 03:18 when I was eight years old. I had a renewal of 03:22 commitment to Jesus when I was in my early 03:24 20's and realized that I can put little bit on 03:26 the back boner and from that time on, 03:29 from the time I was 21 I was involved either as 03:32 Bible teacher or as a youth Pastor or as a 03:35 youth Evangelism coordinator. 03:38 I have also been working in the North-West part of 03:44 the United States as a Youth Coordinator; 03:46 we call it as a Youth Director. 03:48 And I just need a mentor and a facilitator for the 03:53 activity that are going for youth, for me that 03:55 particularly meant getting youth 03:57 involved in Evangelism. 03:59 And you know I have shared this story before 04:02 and people probably tired of hearing it but I love 04:04 the story. We were giving a young lady arrived back 04:08 from a GYC (General Youth Conference) 04:12 and this was a meeting at Sacramento. 04:14 We brought her back from the airport in her car 04:17 and she was in the very back and I said to her 04:20 how do we keep our young people in the 04:24 Church. And you know what she said without 04:26 blinking an eye she said give us a challenge and 04:30 co-train and retain us. Oh! I love that. 04:32 Isn't that wonderful? So, I know that you have 04:37 spent quite a bit of time in studying the idea of 04:41 Spiritual leadership for youth. You actually, 04:44 when you were working on your master's degree 04:46 you shared a story with me earlier. Please share 04:48 that with our audience because I think this is 04:51 something that we really helps set the tome for 04:53 this program. You know, I was 04:55 attending Seventh-Day Adventist University, 04:57 it was a Church sponsored university and 04:59 not our denomination, but another, a positive 05:01 denomination. They are very gracious to me, 05:04 I was only Seventh Adventist in the graduate 05:06 program and they were very very helpful and 05:08 accommodating and in fact they allowed me to 05:10 write my project Thesis on involving Seventh-Day 05:14 Adventist youth in Evangelism. 05:15 Using a model that I had initiated a both in the 05:18 Lake Union Conferences Seventh-Day Adventist 05:20 and also in the Pacific Conference of 05:22 Seventh-Day Adventist. It's a model that 05:24 involved youth doing literature Evangelism 05:26 door to door, distributing Gospel 05:28 door to door. Teaching Revelation 05:31 seminars and Teaching people in the community, 05:34 adults in the community about the book of 05:37 revelation and how it correlates with the times 05:39 in which we live. Giving Bible studies and doing 05:42 community service and so I had developed this 05:45 model and I wrote a proposal of how other 05:49 Churches or youth groups can replicate this model 05:53 and they were very interested in my 05:56 proposal. After I finished the Thesis my 05:59 major professor read it and called on the phone, 06:01 he said Cindy I want to say something to you 06:04 apart from the committee and back up my attention 06:06 you know what he is going to say. 06:07 And he said I have read your thesis and he said I 06:11 think I know now why my denominations 06:14 membership has remained static for the last 15 06:19 years where as the Seventh-Day Adventist 06:21 Church membership has grown exponentially and 06:24 I said what was that? And he said I noticed 06:26 that all the way through your Thesis you talk 06:29 about the Eschaton the coming of Jesus, 06:31 the second coming of our Lord. 06:33 And he said you don't just talk about that you 06:36 talk about mobilizing and orienting and providing 06:39 opportunities for young people to be involved as 06:42 heroes of this event. Yes, yes. 06:44 He said I saw that, you know the thread all 06:46 the way through your project. 06:48 He said now we we still have a second coming in 06:51 our Creed its still in our books, but we 06:54 don't preach it. We don't really teach it 06:56 and he said we certainly don't mobilize youth to 07:00 be heroes of that event. He said that's why my 07:04 Church membership hasn't grown at all in 15 years 07:06 and yours is going by leaps and bounds. 07:08 And then you know, I am thinking of what 07:11 Paul wrote to Timothy, when he said do not let 07:13 them despise your youth and we need to 07:16 sometimes I hear people talk about the youth of 07:20 the Church as the next leaders of the Church and 07:24 I think that we need to make certain that we are 07:26 not just putting that next leadership, exactly, 07:29 ideal generation, oh yeah, that were 07:32 postponing it because we see through the ASI, 07:35 which is the Adventist Laymen, okay. 07:38 Adventist Services and Laymen's 07:43 Adventist Laymen's Services and Industries 07:45 Thank you, I usually can say that but we see these 07:49 young people who are just learning how to go 07:53 out and Evangelized to do doctrinal messages to 07:58 give prophetic seminars and its amazing how it 08:02 changes their life. And its also amazing how God 08:05 uses these youth to get into areas to give Bible 08:10 studies where may be some of us older people 08:12 won't let us in their home. 08:13 Exactly, and in fact I think that we are finally 08:17 recognizing and what we see in this generation 08:19 have used for Christ and also other ASI initiated, 08:23 youth Evangelism projects is a full form and of 08:26 what Jesus said in Mathew 28, in verses 19 and 20 08:29 we have his familiar commission where he 08:31 says they are for going and make disciples of all 08:34 the nations and baptize them in the name of the 08:36 father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. 08:37 But now who was he talking to there? 08:39 Well, you know sometimes we thought 08:40 while he is just talking to the old folks, but I 08:42 really think this commission is gender 08:44 inclusive. I think its age inclusive, 08:46 I think its race inclusive, I think it's 08:49 all of this. And I think it doesn't matter whether we 08:52 have a sparkling extraverted personality 08:54 or whether we are more introverted. 08:56 God wants us to use the temperament and the gifts 08:59 that we have and use them for his good. 09:01 Yeah. Because all of this can 09:02 have a testimony. May be we wont give 09:04 give that testimony in exactly the same way. 09:06 We may be we wont share our faith and the 09:10 knowledge of scripture and how Bible says with 09:13 others and exactly the same format, 09:14 but God calls all of us to Evangelize, you know, 09:18 in hardness, in our own way. 09:20 And I can tell you Shelley, I have seen the 09:23 lives of the young people themselves completely 09:26 turned right side up. Because as a young 09:28 person said to you many young people, 09:31 many Christian young people today are over 09:33 entertained today and under challenged and if 09:36 we would provide them with the opportunity and 09:39 believe in them and think that yes they could be 09:42 Evangelize for God. They don't have to wait 09:44 for until 25 or 35 or 45, they can do more than 09:47 just take their offering in Church. I think it's 09:49 great if they take up the offering in Church don't 09:51 get me wrong. But they can do so 09:52 much more than that. Amen. 09:53 What are the things that I found particularly 09:56 important in recruiting students to be involved 09:59 in students in this kind of activity was not to 10:02 look at the, you know, stereotypical Bible 10:05 thumping kids, I would go to the back row of the 10:08 Church or out in the parking lot where kids 10:10 will chewing gum and you know talking about sports 10:15 and internet and guy-friends and 10:17 girlfriends and music and all of that, 10:19 and seemingly disinterested in 10:21 Spiritual things and I would give them a 10:24 challenge. I say, you know what, I have a 10:26 group of people over here at Mill Street they are 10:29 looking for somebody to say Bible with them and I 10:31 think that you will be just perfect, what about 10:33 I go with you the first time and introduce you to 10:35 them and show you how the lessons work and then 10:38 you carry it on, you and your friend escort here. 10:42 I think you guys will be great partners in doing 10:44 this. And you know at 10:46 sometimes, I would have to ask them more than 10:48 once, sometimes I have to ask them more than 10:50 twice. I tell I was tenacious sometimes. 10:51 I would ask them 10 times and more, 10:53 but I found that they distrusted themselves. 10:57 They didn't think that they were worthy or that 10:59 they knew and offer that you know, that their 11:02 Spirituality was deepened up whatever, but once 11:05 they started teaching a Bible to others, 11:07 they got much more excited about their own 11:10 faith. Though, they have to find answers in the 11:12 scriptures, when the people that they were 11:15 studying asked questions, they had to find the 11:17 answers in the word of God and that was really a 11:20 growing experience for them. 11:21 Amen. I would say that we learn to teach and we 11:24 teach to learn. Yes, I like that a lot. 11:26 And it really works doesn't it? So when you 11:29 think of all with Bible has to say about 11:34 Evangelism and about youth. And we see that 11:36 the Lord included youth and Jesus had such a 11:40 special relationship with young people and we 11:43 know that John, Apostle John, was a very young 11:47 disciple of Jesus. What were some of the 11:52 things that we have a very famous quote that we 11:55 use of Ellen White's writings and when she 11:58 says an army of youth, yes, rightly trained 12:00 Right, I like that a lot. In fact I brought along 12:03 with me several citations from Ellen White because 12:05 sometimes we tend to think of Ellen White and 12:09 I speak Ellen White because I am coming 12:10 from the Ellen White Estate and I want people 12:11 to know, have a little broader understanding of 12:15 her work and her Ministry but not that I think that 12:18 she would ever take the place scripture. 12:20 Because of the Seventh - day Adventist 12:21 doctrines are built on the word of God and our 12:23 scripture. I am glad you put such an 12:24 emphasis on them because since you are 12:26 coming from White Estate we do that's kind of the 12:29 central to our discussions here but it's 12:33 important that people don't misapply what we 12:38 are saying. Yes, absolutely, and our 12:39 original commission is from Jesus himself when 12:42 he says go into all of the world and teach the 12:45 Gospel. But you know, you eluded to one of my 12:48 favorite citations its found in book Ellen 12:50 White called Education and it says with such an 12:53 army of workers, says our youth, are rightly 12:56 trained, I will skip that rightly trained, 12:58 forget that involves us as adults to encourage 13:01 them and mentor them and coach them and provide 13:03 them with opportunities. With such an army as our 13:06 youth might furnish how soon the message have a 13:09 crucified reason and soon coming savior might be 13:12 carried to the whole world. 13:14 How soon might the end come, the end of 13:16 suffering and sorrow and sad. You know that goes 13:19 along with what Peter says it is within our 13:21 power not only to look for but to you hear soon 13:25 the coming of Jesus. Exactly, and you know 13:27 sometimes people think well you know young 13:30 kids what do they know, but look at Helen White 13:33 was 17 years old. And her husband was 13:36 only five or six years older and many of our 13:39 early Adventists pioneers were young, the editor of 13:41 the Review for I think over 50 years Uriah 13:43 Smith, wasn't always over their on the 13:45 chronologically challenged end of the 13:47 spectrum. He became editor of the Review 13:50 when he was only 21 years old. 13:51 Oh, I didn't know that. And even Joseph Bates 13:53 who was older, most of our early Adventist 13:57 founders and pioneers were young people. 13:59 You know they had a vision. 14:00 They had a passion. They wanted to be 14:02 scripture driven. They wanted to be a 14:04 behest in the word of God and they wanted to not 14:07 just be hearers, they wanted to be doers 14:10 of the word of God. Yeah. Ellen White and 14:13 Adventist theology, says the Lord is calling 14:15 for youth for he would make them his helpers to 14:18 do good service under his manner. And I love that 14:21 analogy of the world calling for the youth and 14:24 don't be contend with the superficial things of this 14:26 life but get out and do something that's 14:29 meaningful. And you know Cindy, 14:31 I get a lot of people will call here who will 14:35 say what can I do with my child, that my child 14:38 is just going bizarre and cunning. 14:40 They are getting off in to life style choices 14:43 that are really frightening me. 14:45 And I tell them take them on a missionary trip, 14:47 send them on missionary trips, yeah right, 14:49 and it is amazing how many times when a young 14:53 person who is beginning to stray from the path 14:57 and make some really critically dangerous 15:01 choices. You send them out to Ministry to 15:05 someone else and they see the how the Lord 15:07 works. They see the miracles of the Lord in 15:10 the missionary failed and it becomes real to them 15:12 and it absolutely is pivotal, it changes their 15:16 life and turns them towards the Lord. 15:18 Now you have been involved in doing, 15:25 I should say in putting in places some of these 15:29 programs. Can you tell us some about them? 15:31 Sure. I will tell you about my first 15:33 involvement, well it came along the line like this. 15:39 I had had a Summer Literature Evangelism 15:41 Program, where students went out door to door 15:44 with Gospel Literature, praying with people at 15:46 the door, distributing these books, vegetarian 15:50 cook books Bible story books for kids. 15:52 Some of the Ellen White's beautiful books on Desire 15:55 of Ages, you know, what we call a Mega book for 15:58 now, which is half magazine and half book. 16:00 You may have had young mega bookers on your 16:03 shows here at 3ABN before I telling some of 16:05 their experiences, I know I was interviewed with 16:07 kids back in the 90's here they did that. 16:09 Well, this organization that we mentioned before 16:13 ASI, Adventist Layman's Services and Industries, 16:15 decided that they wanted to have a program 16:18 involved more than just literature Evangelism. 16:21 They wanted also to have revelation seminars in it 16:24 and Bible service and community service and 16:27 they invited me to be the leader of this program 16:29 back all in the early 90's. 16:31 Now you have to recognize at that 16:33 time in Detroit, there were more honest 16:35 sites for kids under the age of 17 then any other 16:39 city in the whole United States including Los 16:43 Angeles. So, you know who are we going to 16:44 recruit to go door to door in Detroit? 16:46 What parents going to let their kid go 16:47 door to door? Absolutely. 16:48 But we did what Jesus did but to as to call them. 16:53 You know he said that he is calling the youth to 16:55 do good service under his manner. 16:57 So we appealed to the parents and we appealed 17:00 to the students and we got a group of 35 that 17:02 first summer. We taught three 17:04 revelation seminars in three different sites, 17:06 the kids doing all the teaching. 17:07 Can you imagine? Amen. 17:08 Here we know, this bachelor, you know, 17:10 we expect him to stand up there and be articulate 17:12 and profound on the word of God but you know this 17:15 this is 15, 16, 17 year old kids teaching these 17:18 prophecies from Daniel and Revelation and doing 17:20 an outstanding job. And of course, 17:23 the grown-up and adults that are coming to this 17:25 are blown away, you know these are 17:26 teenagers that know the Bible better than I know 17:28 and if the teenagers didn't know the answer to 17:31 questions that would surface they would say 17:33 oh, I don't but I will do some research about that 17:35 this week and come back and give you an answer 17:37 next week. So, this summer was a 17:39 wonderful fulfilling for all of us. 17:41 And you know, I have to say that when the ASI 17:43 conventions that I have attended that's my 17:46 favorite time of everything that goes on 17:48 is when they bring-in these army of youth after 17:51 they have been after, yes, and the kids have 17:54 such zeal in their heart; they are so excited 17:56 about, right, what the Lord has accomplished 17:58 through them. And you know that, that is an 18:01 experience that will change them for life. 18:03 And yes that they will never forget and you 18:05 know not only it's a Spiritually beneficial to 18:07 them but it teaches them social skills in meeting 18:09 all these people door to door, they are learning 18:11 to talk with complete strangers. 18:12 They are learning practical things like 18:14 diligence, and tenacity and responsibility and, 18:17 and they are overcoming all of these fears that 18:19 even many adults you know, many adults in the 18:21 Church, if you would say we would like to go out 18:23 and go door to door or we would like you to go give 18:25 the Bible Study and they adults would feel just as 18:28 unqualified and many as the youth do. 18:32 But when we see that the youth can do it, 18:34 it should shake up the Church and wake, 18:36 accept all being involved. 18:38 And you know that has happened, after that 18:40 summer I went on to do nine more summers of 18:42 young people being involved in 24x7 Youth 18:46 Evangelism Program for eight weeks in the 18:48 summer and then I did some doing the school 18:51 year, and what I discovered is we would 18:53 have these young people come up in Church like 18:55 you saw the ASI conventions and you 18:56 suggest be at the local Church telling their 18:59 experiences and after they had done that for a 19:01 weeks the adults begin, surreptitiously coming to 19:04 me in the corridors and saying, you know what, 19:06 I don't want the kids to have all the fun. 19:08 Can we start in Bible study or at least me 19:11 drive for these students. Let me be their driver 19:13 where as they go out to a Bible study. 19:14 So, we found it was a way of kind of 19:16 eliminating the generation gap because 19:19 adults and youth were coming together to the 19:21 Church once a week, working together for the 19:24 salvation of souls, and I should tell you something 19:27 what happened, I was in Prague a number of years 19:30 ago; it was the first institute or Council for 19:35 Youth in Evangelism. So, there were delegates 19:37 gathered there from all over the world and on the 19:40 last night the speaker challenged all the young 19:43 people to turn the world upside down for Jesus 19:45 Christ. And one young man walked right from 19:49 the back of that vast auditorium, he strode 19:51 right up to the platform, he took the microphone 19:54 out of the hand of the speaker, all us are very 19:57 startled you can believe, he said sir, our world is 20:01 already upside down. I want to turn our world 20:04 right side up for Jesus Christ. 20:07 And you know I thought about that a lot. 20:09 I think it was really profound because our 20:12 world is upside down today, you know we have 20:14 video games and that are totally profane and 20:17 totally violent and totally disruptive, 20:20 immoral, immoral, of every value that we hold 20:23 as Christians whose faith is based on the word of 20:27 God and holiness character of God. 20:29 You know we hear about cruelty and abuse and 20:33 violence and war and people being totally 20:37 consumed with commercialism. Our 20:39 world needs to be turned right side up for Jesus 20:41 Christ. Yes. We need to be more excited about the 20:44 word of God than we are about video games and 20:46 more excited about talking about Jesus and 20:49 we are talking about MTV or whatever 20:51 consumes us and that's true for us as adults as 20:54 well as for the youth and I think the best way for 20:57 youth to once again understand who Jesus is 21:02 and who they are in relation to Jesus and 21:03 what disciples means is to give them some 21:07 responsibility. Exactly. 21:08 Make them feel that they are expected to do 21:10 something. The Lord calls them. 21:12 Now, how would you recommend, I am sure 21:15 that there are people who are watching right now, 21:17 who are saying you know this is making sense but 21:20 where do we get started? What would you 21:22 recommend for Church or a parent, how do they get 21:26 started implementing programs that can include 21:29 the youth and mobilize the youth? 21:32 Well, first of all of course I have to say that if 21:34 there is a Literature Evangelism Program 21:36 anywhere in the area where those young people 21:39 are they should sign up. You know they should do 21:42 that for at least a summer, it's a life 21:44 changing experience. And here in the United 21:46 States there is pockets of young people doing... 21:49 How do they find out about that? 21:51 They could get on the Seventh-Day Adventist 21:53 Website or through our world Church or through 21:57 their local conference, but you know it's not 21:59 just here in United States there are young 22:01 people around the world. That are involved 22:03 Literature Evangelism through the Seventh-Day 22:05 Adventist Conference or through a local 22:08 independent Ministry such as Weimar Institute 22:13 out in California; you know they send 22:15 kids out with literature Evangelism. 22:16 There are other supporting ministries 22:18 that involve young people in literature work. 22:21 But there is a, I will give you a really easy 22:23 way that, let me make one comment before 22:25 you do because otherwise I am going to forget it, 22:27 okay, and I was just thinking as you were 22:29 talking how many Church leaders that I have met 22:32 that, that is part of their testimony is that 22:35 they began in Literature Evangelism. 22:37 Yes, absolutely because you learn so many skills 22:39 and you learn that you have to pray, you know 22:41 are at the meeting so many and that person 22:43 might be very hostile or they may have a lot of 22:45 questions and you have not the foggiest idea how 22:47 you are going to answer. So you realize, 22:48 you have to get outside of yourself and you have 22:50 appeal for divine power. So, it definitely 22:52 crystallizes your prayer life into Jesus that 22:57 total dependency is upon them. 22:59 Right, right. But, I want to tell you that in 23:01 another simple way that any local Church youth 23:04 group could get involved in learning to work for 23:07 God. It's very simple, it's a survey. 23:09 I have people this survey on a clipboard and they 23:12 go out two by two in to the neighborhood and 23:15 there is just three questions on the survey, 23:16 the first question is number one, what do you 23:22 think of people who call themselves Christians? 23:24 And the person answers and you write down the 23:28 question and the answer in a brief form on your 23:30 little clip board, and then the next 23:32 question is there is all kinds of violence in our 23:36 world today and child abuse and wars, 23:38 why do you think that those things are 23:41 happening? And you know they write down 23:44 with what that was, what the answer was 23:46 at the door, and then the third question is what do 23:48 you think young people can do to make this world 23:51 a better place? And you know I will tell 23:53 you people have an answer for that, 23:55 everybody has an opinion what young people can 23:57 do. And then the young person says thank you so 23:59 much for answering our survey. It was very 24:01 short, it's only few questions. Just to say 24:04 thank you, we have something that we would 24:06 like to share with you as a gift to your family 24:08 from our Youth Group and then they give them 24:10 steps to Christ. They give them a little 24:12 pamphlet of the word of God and may be the book 24:14 of John you know you can get that through the 24:15 American Bible Society, Amen, or if there is an 24:18 Evangelistic series coming up, where 24:20 somebody is going to do preaching on the word of 24:22 God, may be an Evangelist is coming to town they 24:25 could say you know we have series of lectures 24:28 coming up at our Church over here on the corner 24:30 of fourth in Mill Street and we would like to 24:32 invite you to those lectures. 24:34 Here is the pamphlets that are issues some of 24:36 the topics, yeah, we hope that you might be there. 24:38 So, you had a little connection with these 24:41 people by asking them these three questions. 24:43 People are eager to answer them. 24:45 The young people are interested in the folks. 24:48 You know they are looking them in eye. 24:49 They are smiling. They are obviously 24:51 interested in being a help in their community, 24:53 that's great, and it's a little way that kids can 24:57 get involved in door to door work and learn there 24:59 are people out there with great needs, 25:00 some of whom they can pray with. 25:02 Amen. I knew as you were talking, 25:03 I was thinking of Billy Doug Batchelor, who was 25:06 speaking recently that he got a group of youth to 25:09 do this and they were actually giving some 25:11 kind of a short survey but then they were giving 25:13 away the final events DVD. 25:15 Oh! That's great. Everybody likes to watch 25:18 DVD; everybody is interested in times, 25:20 so that was good. So, I think that this is 25:23 all excellent and I know you have had many years 25:26 if you could talk to a parent. I know as a 25:29 mother of three children what would you say just 25:32 look into your camera over there and say 25:35 something to them, mom and dad who may be 25:37 discouraged about the direction in which their 25:40 youth are going. Yes, I can understand 25:43 that too because you know as all Christian 25:46 parents, I have prayed for the salvation of my 25:47 children everyday since they were born. 25:49 Nothing is more important to me than they be in the 25:51 Kingdom of God. But, I would say get 25:54 involved with your children. When our 25:56 daughter was young, I took her out on a 25:58 project that the Adventist Church calls 25:59 Ingathering that's just meant that we went 26:02 door-to-door collecting funds for people who 26:04 have been involved in disasters, collecting 26:07 funds to help education of persons around the 26:10 world who might not have some of the 26:11 educational advantages that we have, 26:14 for disaster and famine relief and my daughter 26:17 today is Social Services Attorney, on one day I 26:19 was teasing her and said how come you are a 26:21 cooperate lawyer so could buy me a Lamborghini, 26:23 you know, I was giving her a hard time and she 26:25 said mom, how can I do anything else but social 26:27 services law after you used to take me door to 26:30 door to collect money for the poor and the needy 26:32 when I was a little kid. And I would say you 26:35 know fine things to do in your community, 26:36 singing perhaps at a nursing home with your 26:39 family, going door to door may be with your 26:42 kids, just be involved as a family in things that 26:47 help others and that combined acts of charity 26:50 with the Gospel message. I think that's most 26:52 important thing you can do as a parent of grown 26:56 children. I wish I have done that even more often 26:58 when my children were younger. 26:59 Amen. And I think to another thing that we can 27:03 always do for youth and especially for your 27:07 children and your grand children is let them know 27:09 how important a personal relationship with the 27:12 Lord is, yes Amen, a true personal connection so 27:15 that religion, you know I would say rules without 27:19 relationship result in rebellion, exactly, 27:22 and so we don't our kids growing up just thinking 27:25 that it's a bunch of don'ts and dos, 27:27 right, but the God is really interested in 27:29 every detail of their life. Kids like to be 27:32 active and they like to know that Jesus is their 27:34 friend and we can combine both of those 27:36 things. Amen. Cindy thank you 27:38 so much for being here again Dr Cindy Tutsch 27:42 Yes. And I am so pleased that 27:44 we have enjoyed these programs that you have 27:46 done and hope that you will come back again to 27:48 3ABN. Thank you. 27:49 You are always welcome. For those of you who are 27:51 at home, remember if you want to keep your 27:54 children in the Church, go and try to entertain 27:57 them and give them a challenge that's the 27:59 desire of their heart. Now may be grace of the 28:02 Lord Jesus Christ, the love of the father 28:04 and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you 28:06 today and always, thanks. |
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