Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Cindy Tutsch
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000380
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00:01 Hi, I am Shelley Quinn you know, one thing
00:03 that we all wanted to actually know 00:04 is how much the Lord the loves them. 00:06 and we want our children understand about 00:09 Jesus. So, how do they do that 00:11 join us today on issues and answers we'll find 00:37 out. Jesus said suffer the little children 00:38 also said that the most important command is 00:41 to love the Lord of God with all of your hearts 00:44 so mild and strain. So, he is inviting the 00:46 little kids to come and to know 00:49 who he is? So that when they 00:51 understand how much he loves them 00:54 that they can turn around and love him 00:56 with all of their hearts so, mild and strain. 00:58 how do we teach our children about the love of the 01:01 Lord. Of course the Bible is number one, but we've got 01:05 to take it down to bite pieces sometimes. 01:07 And today we are going to talking with Cindy Tutsch, 01:10 from the general conference actually from the 01:13 Ellen White Estate, that's right, the associate director, 01:16 thank you so much for coming today. 01:19 I'm glad to be here. Cindy why do you think 01:21 it so important to make Ellen White's writings 01:27 accesable to children? That's a good question. 01:29 First of all where we want to our kids to have 01:31 more than anything else it's a 01:32 relationship with Jesus. knowing Jesus as a friend 01:35 and a savior. we want them to have an experience 01:39 with him to believe that he is their elder brother 01:43 their king, their God, And so we want to use 01:46 every agent see that we can find to help establish 01:49 this relationship with God with out kids for our kids. 01:55 And one of the things that we use of course as you 01:58 mentioned is a scripture in fact, that's primary, 02:00 that's the most important thing 02:03 yes that we can pass onto it shouldn't is a love for 02:05 the word of God for the Bible. they can do that through 02:08 mermory verses learning the Bible by memory 02:12 by wrote. So that those precious promises 02:15 and instructions from God come easily to our childrens 02:17 minds and hearts at any time if they are alive. 02:21 And if we can do that by telling them the stories 02:23 from the Bible by singing songs and prayers 02:25 and wishes and by taking them out in nature 02:28 and talking to them about the God 02:30 who created all of this. Also another method 02:33 throught which communicate to his people 02:35 is through the prophetic voice and 02:37 certainly we look first at the prophets of the Bible 02:41 Mathew and John and Ezequiel and Daniel 02:44 and all of these wonderful wonderful prophets who 02:47 gave us messages straight form the heart of God. 02:50 But according to Ephesians 4 and 02:52 first Corinthians 12 and Romans 12 Joe 2 02:55 there could be the gift of prophecy that could 02:58 come just before Jesus comes 03:00 the kid come in contemporary times 03:02 then of course that someone claims 03:04 to have that gift and we would want to establish 03:06 or compare that claim with the word of God 03:09 the word of God always being the primary source 03:11 by which we evaluate every other claim to have the 03:14 message form the Lord. Because the true prophet 03:16 will never contradict the word of God. 03:18 Oh! yes, that's absolutely true. 03:21 and that we don't say that the latest prophets 03:24 who proceeds the word of the first prophet 03:26 no we believe that all that subsequent prophets 03:29 can back to the original script the word of God 03:32 the scriptures, solace scripture 03:34 that's our man to us. absolutely. 03:37 But if we believe in the word of God 03:39 that we missed also understand that the word 03:42 of God says that there would be prophetic messages 03:44 that come from God before Jesus comes 03:47 in other words at the time of the end according to Joe 2. 03:50 Seventh Day Adventist believe that Ellen White 03:52 that the message that she received from God 03:54 in over 200 visions and dreams throughout her 03:57 70 years of public ministry meets those test of the 04:01 prophet like Isaiah 8:20 to the law 04:03 and to the testament you do they speak according 04:04 to this the word of God then if they do their could 04:07 be lighten them other way as their darkness. 04:10 And then since we believe that she passes 04:13 these test of the prophets then her messages 04:16 must also have relevant for our children. 04:19 And therefore harder we make her writings 04:21 which some people think her sort of antiquated 04:24 you know they use 19 century language 04:27 which means that sense might be longer and 04:29 the words is not commonly express this view today. 04:33 how we would make these things accessible to children 04:35 so that is they grow older they can love books 04:38 like the desire of ages the story of the 04:40 life of Christ and bring this back again 04:43 into scripture that my favorite books. 04:46 yes indeed, but if you try to read the desire of ages 04:48 to an eight year old they might fall asleep 04:52 just because the vocabulary is not that which they 04:54 ordinarily use and because some of the concepts 04:57 are deeper then with their minds 05:00 and so yet able to assimilate. 05:02 So, we've been thinking about that at the way 05:04 and straight and what can we do 05:05 to particularly how children understand that 05:08 prophetic word is also a way that 05:11 God could speaks to them. And one of my favorite 05:13 ways is that easy and it's an electronic magazine 05:16 that we've made for kids they are just ages 8 to 14 05:18 it's called visionary for kids 05:20 you can find it on the internet at 05:21 www.whiteestate.org/vez so you can also find that by 05:33 just going to our website whiteestate.org and it's 05:36 right there front center on her home page 05:38 and there you will find visionary for kids 05:40 you click on that and you'll find about seven issues 05:43 and themes like friends, entertainment 05:47 health, missions, our current is on the Sabbath 05:53 and our next issue is on the second coming 05:55 and we talked what the Bible says about these 05:57 important themes and also and what did Ellen White 05:59 about these things that could be useful and helpful to kids. 06:03 we do that through stories through games, 06:05 through puzzles, through the kids have their own 06:07 coronary where they can post pictures and they can 06:10 write little essays and they can write poems and 06:13 so it's just really fun. So this is like an electronic 06:16 magazine, aha, yes and go t whiteestate.org 06:19 and just click on the visionaries, wait, wait. 06:22 You see that right in the home page 06:24 or see visionary for kids you know, it's 06:27 bing and bright graphic and bold 06:28 to can't miss it, wonderful 06:30 you click on that and there will be 06:31 the current issue in PDF form 06:34 as well as the web pages and you can download for free 06:37 or you can just look out on your computer your kids can 06:41 and then we have all of our previous issues are all 06:44 archives on our website. And we've heard from kids 06:48 we got markings, we've notices 06:53 I am not very text that either my project developer 06:56 tells us that people in over 100 countries have acces 06:59 our site to know. We have to say about 07:03 Ellen White for kids, because they are interested 07:04 in that subject. You know, I think this is 07:07 fabolous because this her favorite topic 07:10 to arrive on was the life of Jesus 07:12 which is so much she can make us story of 07:15 Jesus life come alive, but now this electronic magazine 07:19 would be something that would be good 07:21 for people who are Sabbath school teachers 07:23 and looking for material to teach the children 07:27 and parents or grandparents 07:29 this is just something is a very exciting project. 07:33 Now I know you've been there eight years 07:34 with the Ellen White Estate you come from long time 07:39 of long line of career line i guess I should say 07:43 of ministry that you always had just a special heart 07:47 for youth ministry. And in fact, all of my career 07:51 I've been involved in youth ministry 07:52 and when we another I was youth director 07:54 over you know, helping with the youth activities 07:58 for over 70 churches, I was a youth pastor 08:02 I was a Bible teacher, I was religion teacher 08:06 in various schools and I've been an out reach 08:09 co.ordinator. So, it's always been with kids. 08:11 So I have a passion for kids, I love them. 08:13 So I think this the very exciting project 08:16 that you be here and its something that 08:18 I would imagine that some people you don't have to be 08:20 under the age of 12 to go and enjoy this site, right. 08:25 But you know that's we are finding 08:26 it;s actually a regular White estate website 08:28 which is the standard one that everyone goes to pastor 08:31 and people that are interested in Ellen White 08:33 and whatever they go out website 08:34 Whiteestate.org, but they invite on that website 08:37 we have several resources that are helpful to 08:39 people who want to introduce Adventist heritage 08:41 or Ellen White writings to children. 08:45 we have that what i just mentioned 08:46 the visionary for kids and then right underneath 08:48 there is a CD called meeting kids needs, 08:51 and which we have in plans on Adventist Heritage 08:53 for kids from kindergarten all the way through 08:55 grades 12, thanks to God yes, we have less in plans 08:58 and with all of the stories and a little tests 09:01 and little quizzes and the fun stuff and the 09:03 the audio stories that a teacher or path finder leader 09:07 or Sabbath School teacher or parents, Home School 09:11 whatever could use those recources 09:14 that are on our site to help their kids. 09:17 And you know on our visionayr magazine 09:21 we also have broadcast oh! excellent. 09:23 yeah I traveled in many places, I have travelled 09:26 to 51 countries on behalf of Whiteestate, 09:29 and I interviewed kids in Kuwait early teens, 09:31 in Kuwait about what they are doing 09:34 for the Lord and with and how they enjoyed 09:36 reading Ellen Whites writings and of course the 09:39 scripture what is their Bible study plan 09:41 and things like that. And then we thought 09:43 we would take a group of a very young children 09:45 ages like 9 to 12 and use Ellen White's book 09:49 early writings where she wrote very early on 09:52 in her life, it has a simple language 09:54 style and we introduce these kids 09:57 we gave each one of them this book early writings 09:59 we had them sit in the circle 10:00 and we did a broadcast of them discussing 10:03 her first vision, which begans on page 13 10:06 of early writings and goes to page 20 10:08 and what we did was each of the kids have this 10:11 book and this was totally experienced on them 10:13 we didn't rehearse this, we didn't know what's going 10:15 to happen in age 9 reading Ellen White 10:18 you know most would say well, you know this is a 10:20 19th century writer, because we aren't to be 10:22 to able to understand this and I say to the kids 10:24 what we didn't you as we can read this paragraph 10:26 by paragraph and if you see something that you want 10:29 to have further explain that you want to comment on 10:32 it and you want to ask a question on 10:33 you just stop wherever you reading 10:35 and ask the question or anybody in the circle 10:37 could this question. And you know what happened 10:40 we had hope to make this about maybe in 45 minutes 10:42 to an hour those kids got so into this story 10:46 of the Heaven Ellen White describe 10:48 in what God showed her about Heaven 10:49 and God showing her about their new Earth 10:52 and knowing God what it would be like 10:54 in Heaven they get so excited about it. 10:56 And so into it asking so many questions 10:58 and making so many comments that finally I had to say 11:01 okay we'll read a paragraph and one person can ask 11:04 one question and then we'll go on to the next 11:07 paragraph. How exciting, because we wanted them to 11:08 get through the whole vision in the time that we had. 11:11 But I was astonished of children of that age 11:13 could understand there were few things 11:15 that they had questions about and you can see that 11:18 broascast right on our how exciting 11:20 electronic visionary magazine there 11:23 is a broadcast right there on a issue about heaven 11:26 and you can see these kids asking these questions 11:29 and I going to show you that was not rehearse 11:31 you know, just with the very question had they asks 11:34 ought to little hearts it was going on. 11:36 and here was so exciting about this is and I just 11:38 want to say for those if you who are watching 11:40 who may not be Seventh Adventist 11:42 I do want to say that the Seventh Day Adventist Church 11:44 bases all of our doctrines who beleives 11:46 on the Bible not on Ellen's White writings. 11:50 But she does help shall I say 11:55 she expounds on many Bible themes, 11:59 because she had, God gave her such inside 12:01 and what you saying with the children 12:05 is that probably something I mean they've heard about 12:08 the theme of heaven, but they got excited 12:11 because she was expounding on this and it became more 12:16 real and more alive then just simply reading of 12:19 few scriptures on heaven this was something that 12:22 it really start again real to them. 12:24 And if she brings that details that they really 12:26 like to hear and about life in heaven. 12:29 and it just as you say it made come alive 12:32 for them and of course you know we do not want 12:36 Ellen White's writings to ever super scripture 12:38 to take the place of scripture that we would spend 12:41 more time in the writings of Ellen White 12:42 then we would in the Bible. We want our kids to have a 12:46 love for the Bible. But because Ellen White talks so 12:49 much about scriptures and the benefits of reading the 12:52 Bible and that need for us to have a strong 12:54 devotional life the are going to be her writing 12:57 are going to be an agency that leads kids to understand 13:00 Jesus better and to understand the Holyness and 13:02 beauty of his character and his plan for their lives. 13:05 and she always points to the Bible as being the 13:08 primary source of knowledge the greater lights 13:11 you called at and she was just a less her life. 13:14 So this is really exciting. So, now you also have some 13:18 books for the children now. Yes, yes, I wanted to 13:21 tell you that I want to refer back to what you 13:23 mentioned you said something about desire of ages 13:25 which one of your favorites but we really wanted 13:28 the kids to be able to read what we call in 13:31 kind of Adventist going to ocular I suppose 13:33 the conflict series where Ellen White starts 13:35 patriarchs and prophets you know beginings 13:37 origins of sin and the beginnings of our world 13:40 and then prophets and king, desire of ages, 13:42 Axe of the Apostles and the Great Controversy 13:45 these are the books that tell really the story 13:47 from our world form its inception 13:50 all the way thought to the coming of Jesus. 13:52 But probably in language it's going to be a little bit 13:55 difficult for kids to understand. 13:57 So, we wrote those in kids friendly language 14:01 and conjunction with this Seventh the Adventist 14:03 real church Sabbath school department 14:05 because they wanted to use these as auxiliary resource 14:08 materials children for the Sabbath Schools lessons, 14:11 Bible lessons and the first one the name of the 14:14 first one I always have to look 14:15 at my notes because I forget the names of it 14:17 is beginning of the end then royalty and rule 14:20 and then humble hero is the name that we've given 14:23 to the desire of ages. And so we've only done 14:26 three are now project director 14:28 for his project Bill Fagley is working on 14:31 Axe of the Apostles now and then the 14:32 Great Controversy that is my favorite book 14:36 and I can't wait to have children to be able to 14:39 read that book and language that they understand. 14:40 So you know what I've discovered 14:43 I disvoered this some adults are really enjoying that 14:46 simpler language too as just you agreed 14:48 to saved the same thing it wouldn't be just to show 14:50 a children and audience, but I am sure 14:53 Even though that was our focus and our intent 14:54 when we do well up the project 14:55 I came to my Dad's house a few weeks ago 14:58 on his 90 years old, he is very capable and 15:02 and a good student of the Bible 15:04 and he and his friends were studying this book, 15:07 I noticed on his table the first one which was 15:11 beginnings of the end along with their study 15:13 of the scripture and I thought well that's 15:16 Dad I said do you like that but he said, 15:18 because he didn't know that it was you know, 15:20 that we had adopted the language 15:22 from the White estate I said do you enjoying that 15:24 book and he said, oh yes he said we have a 15:27 entity nomination to study group 15:29 and we are reading the Bible and also 15:31 reading this book and he said all of us just love it 15:33 and I had to laugh here is my 920 years old Dad 15:36 enjoying this book which we did for kids. 15:38 that's wonderful, it is wonderful because 15:40 you know it will never take the place Ellen White's 15:43 standard words and that's as purpose to be place 15:46 them, but just to be in that so that people could 15:48 is understand her writings in ways that maybe 15:53 more applicable to their vocabulary or their interest 15:56 or their reading level whatever and then 16:00 and find out the great themes of God 16:02 because as you said, Ellen White talks about Jesus 16:05 talks about heaven, talks about the planet 16:07 and ways that really open up our eyes. 16:10 some people feel that C. S. Lewis was very valuable 16:13 to them in terms of learning more about God. 16:18 if that wasn't agency that could help people 16:20 to know about Jesus then we say praise the Lord. 16:22 Well, Ellen White you know, we believe that she was 16:25 in Agency that can bring us back to study 16:27 and the scripture and knowing God. 16:29 You know when I used to go one of my favorite authors 16:34 was Andrew Murray and I loved his style of 16:37 writing because as I was reading I mean 16:41 every sentence he say I thought 16:42 Oh this I know that scripture that comes from 16:44 I know this scripture like he spoken parapharise 16:47 scripture because he had so much scripture in him 16:49 and then when i began to reading 16:51 Ellen White I found the same thing. 16:53 As you reading through this just so much scripture 16:56 even though she doesn't' every occasion 16:58 put out the scripture referance 17:00 its the principle of that kind of scripture 17:01 of paraphrase. Her phraseology and her 17:03 language is just to seem in scripture 17:05 yes that is and its just wonderful. 17:07 So that now are these books already available 17:10 for sale yes they are you can find then at the 17:13 Adventist book center.org website or you can find them 17:17 in the Adventist book centers that are scattered 17:20 throughout the Unites States and through some 17:22 parts of the world, but you can always look 17:24 Adventist book center.org and find these books. 17:29 You know it occurs me that there are so many 17:31 false prophets involved today do you have something 17:36 specifically to help children understand and how to 17:39 parents teach children to judge between 17:42 what is the true prophet of God 17:43 and what is the false prophet of God. 17:45 You know several years ago on 3ANB I hosted team 17:49 pathways and we went through the BIble 17:52 in a Bible marking plans so that but on themes 17:56 from what happens when you die 17:57 and to angels to health, to salvation 18:00 we put in out Bibles we mark ten text for each theme 18:04 one of those themes was the gift of prophecy 18:07 what does the Bible say about prophecy and prohets 18:12 it's an prophetic claim what would be the test 18:14 of a prophet if someone claims to have a message 18:16 form God, how would we know that claim was authentic 18:19 and not counterfeiter or fornaro or whatever. 18:23 and actually those Bible said is that I did with the teens 18:26 on teen pathways it's have been put into 18:29 a printed form its 41 Bible studies for teens 18:32 and one of those Bible studies is on the spirit 18:35 of prophecy or the gift of prophecy 18:37 and that might be useful so they are wanted those tests 18:40 and that for even Bible studies for kids 18:43 its available for Adventist source. 18:47 Cindy when you were on before 18:49 we were talking about some of the visions that 18:52 Ellen White and didn't get a chance to 18:55 there is a one that you've kind of with it my appetite 18:59 I've never heard the story but it was I think to said 19:02 her shortest vision and it was about hillnet. 19:05 can you show that with us? Oh yes, didn't we. 19:08 Ellen White's husband died when she was about 19:10 54 years old first she didn't know she could caring 19:13 on her ministry without him because she have been 19:15 so dependent upon him as her companion and 19:18 her partner and her husband he was quite devestating 19:22 blow to her but she continue to practise 19:24 that she and her husband had began early 19:26 in their marriage of inviting students 19:28 just stay in their home that way it made a less 19:31 expensive for them to attend the local Christian 19:35 school and they enjoyed living in Ellen White's home 19:38 she let them pedal fights once a week her 19:40 granddaughter's remember and they you know they had 19:43 good garden food and they had wish him 19:45 together also glad that you brought that 19:47 because some times people think of Ellen White 19:50 is being the supreme proper and no sense of humor 19:52 right, and it was quite the contrary she is a very 19:55 well balanced woman, right and kids loved her 19:57 the schools around there where she lived 20:00 the Northern California for the last 15 years 20:02 of her life the students was always ask she could come 20:05 and be the speaker even though sometimes 20:06 she was a little bit of long wented 20:07 i mean you know we usually make half before getting 20:09 how a devotional for a picnic we make kind of sure 20:12 with our hand on the door and up 20:13 well a devotional that she gave at a picnic 20:15 shortly before she past away 20:17 was 45 minutes long and the kids have her on 20:19 everywhere do you know she was just interesting 20:21 and she was engaging, and she really love kids 20:23 she really enjoy to them. Well, one girl I guess 20:26 we just call her Lisa was living in Ellen White's home 20:28 and she past by Ellen White's bedroom one say and some 20:32 aren't and she saw something in Ellen White's room 20:34 that she wanted it wasn't expensive 20:37 watch or beautiful pen, it was hair net 20:40 and back in those days and other woman often 20:42 where they hear up and top of the head and 20:44 in kind of donate looking thing and covered with a 20:47 hair net and this was a very well made one 20:49 and a nice silk hair net so Lisa wanted this hair net 20:53 and she just stole it you know 20:55 scrunched it up in her hand took it back and put it in 20:57 her trun, in her bedroom. Well, Ellen White was quite 21:00 an organized individual and she came back to he room 21:05 when she was getting ready to go out 21:06 and looked for that hair net and it wasn't there 21:08 and I can imagine that you know she is looking here 21:10 and there thinking maybe the wind blow it 21:12 and those kind of thing so that night it worship 21:15 after they played that pump organ 21:16 and I've been at Ellen White's home 21:18 it's been restored its an actual historical landmark 21:22 because it was restored authentically and 21:25 the pump organ is there you can see the old furniture 21:28 you know where they used to sit around 21:29 and read the Bible stories and saying and 21:31 after the end of their family devotional time 21:34 in the evening Ellen White said has any one seen 21:37 my hair net then no one answered to her 21:41 the next day Ellen White was blocking by Lisa's bedroom 21:44 then Ellen White heard a voice and the voice said 21:48 look in Lisa's trunk. Now Ellen White was not a busy 21:51 body she wasn't that police officer 21:53 and she kind of resisted that ways she kept walking 21:56 and then the voice came back to hear clearly 21:58 look in Lisa's trunk. Now this time she recognized 22:02 that as the voice of the angel guide 22:04 they was often with her in vision the commentator 22:08 that told her the various things that she was seen 22:12 she decided she probably should listen 22:15 and she went back in the bedroom in Lisa's bedroom 22:17 and she opened the trunk and of course there on the 22:19 top tray was that missing hair net. 22:23 So she just loved it there and close the trunk back up 22:26 that night when she after the pump organ and 22:28 after the stories of from the Bible 22:31 and the songs the scripture and the prayer by the way 22:36 Ellen White's always wanted to keep 22:37 family worship short and sweat she wanted to kids 22:39 the liked she wanted to be a happy and joyful 22:42 time and she don't wanted to be long in tedious. 22:45 So, the idea of the 45 minutes devotional before the 22:49 picnic that was not something that she repeated in 22:51 every evening photoframe or no, definitely not. 22:53 definitely not. And so again she ask the question 22:58 has anyone seen my hair net and no one answered to her. 23:04 So a few days later Ellen White was writing 23:07 some that new script that probably based on her visions 23:10 she had had perhaps it was a letter 23:11 to someone she often wrote letters 23:13 to council to individuals and she had her shortest 23:15 vision and in this vision she saw Caressing Lantering 23:20 and the Rick of course with springing 23:22 she saw a girls hand holding a hair net over this open 23:27 flame the hair net was dropped down into that globe 23:32 of the caressing lantern and of course it being 23:34 a natural fiber it immediately burned up 23:37 completely. So now Ellen White knew 23:39 what it happened to the hair net that was 23:42 in Lisa's trunk, oh no. So that night after wishing 23:45 Ellen White asks the third time 23:47 has any one seen my hair net? 23:50 and when no one replied she said Lisa I'l like to 23:52 talk with you and Lisa stay back 23:56 and Ellen White said you know, 23:59 God showed me Lisa that you took my hair net 24:03 he showed me that you put it your trunk 24:05 and then he showed me that you bring it up 24:10 and she began to cry and she said oh! sister White 24:11 because they called her by that effection 24:13 oh sister White I was so shamed when you started 24:18 about it, I did steal it, I saw it, I wanted, I took it, 24:22 but we stood asking about I was so shamed. 24:23 I didn't want you find out about, so I just wanted to 24:25 get rid of it. So, I bruned it out and she said 24:28 will you forgive me? And you know, 24:32 those who think of Ellen White is kind of a 24:33 domineering ridgered, not very nice person 24:36 might have thought, at that point she stampered her feet 24:39 and say no way, no cookies for you this time for a week or 24:41 whatever you know, but no she took Lisa 24:45 in her arms and she told her Lisa you know 24:48 of course I forgive you but the God of heaven 24:51 who created all the galaxies space and the my Lisa 24:54 like a lady bird they are everything in our world. 24:59 loved you so much that he sent a message to me so that 25:02 you could make this right because according to 25:05 Isaiah 59:1 are sins can separate us from God 25:08 not because he doesn't love us but because those sins 25:11 stand in a way of our perceiving that wonderful 25:14 love of God. you know that really impressed Lisa 25:17 and she thought up to that time that she was pretty 25:20 good moral person, she went to church, 25:22 she paid her tide you know, she was about as good 25:24 a candidte to escape hell as any she didn't understand 25:27 the wonderful love of Jesus for her and then he died 25:31 for her individually specifically and then when 25:34 she did wrong it grieve the heart to God 25:36 and who care to love about that too. 25:38 Well his messengers knows that Lisa can make that right 25:42 I thought it was you know, because the biographers 25:45 that actually was pivotal experience 25:47 in Jesus' life and then she came up a commited 25:50 wholeheartedly bring a Christian to Jesus 25:54 and I thought you know isn't at the work 25:56 of a prophet, yes to put their arms around us 25:58 and tell us that God's love this 26:00 and to direct this to the wonderful love of Jesus. 26:01 But also according t first Corinthians for 18:3 26:07 the wake of the prophet is to give us worth of 26:09 edification on instruction as well as comfort 26:13 Jeremiah 23 says that are false prophet 26:16 is going to say I'm okay you're okay, we're all okay 26:18 in other words the false prophet is going to 26:20 declare peace, but there is no peace 26:22 he is going to tell us that we are right with God 26:24 when we haven't made things right with God 26:25 and we haven't asked him for forgive us 26:27 since and we haven't accepted him as our savior. 26:30 So, I think you know as I read that first corinthians 26:32 4:18:3 I think the prophets where it can sort of like 26:35 tree like a stool without all three legs the 26:37 stools getting tape over and it included edification 26:41 it includes instruction and it includes comfort. 26:44 we need all three elements to be a true prophet. 26:47 here I am so thankful that we're here today to 26:50 share this with us all o the exciting things that 26:54 the Ellen White Estate is doing to make her writings 27:03 more accessful to children in the style 27:05 what they can enjoy Cindy thank you so much. 27:07 again for being here. thanks for inviting me. 27:09 You know for those of you at home 27:10 I didn't up in the Adventist Church 27:13 and I know that one of my big questions 27:15 coming into the church was how I would recieved 27:17 the writings of Ellen White and as I have 27:21 become more familiar with her writing that one thing 27:24 that I appreciate so much is that she always heralded 27:27 the Bible as or stand with of truth 27:30 and that is the standard by which we live 27:33 and her standard by which are true discovered 27:35 is the Bible and the Bible only as far as 27:39 the foundation for truth but praise the Lord 27:42 that he has not he hasn't left us without of prophetic 27:46 gift in these and times the gift of prophecy 27:49 is still a valuable gift and we certainly see that 27:53 it was a gift that was given to Ellen White, 27:57 who is one of the founders of this Seventh Day 27:59 Adventist church. I hope you've enjoyed this 28:01 time with Cindy too. We are going to try to get 28:04 her back again and please us again, bye, bye. |
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