Participants: John Lomacang (Host), Carol Zarska
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000368
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00:30 Hello, friends and welcome
00:31 to Issues and Answers here on 3ABN. 00:34 So glad that you chosen to join us 00:36 for another very important issue. 00:38 Many of you today are looking forward 00:40 to the coming of the Lord 00:41 but not aware exactly how to get ready 00:43 for the coming of the Lord. 00:44 Well, we have a wonderful guest today 00:45 Carol Zarska that's going to walk us 00:47 through a wonderful encounter she has had with the Lord 00:51 that has changed her life in a wonderful way. 00:53 And The Ministry of Reconciliation 00:55 is very much a part of this program. 00:57 So, stay tuned, sit down 00:59 for this "Issues and Answers" program. 01:01 My name is John Lomacang 01:02 and I'm so glad to be able to be a part of this program. 01:06 And I know that we are going to learn 01:08 something about the Lord 01:09 that will strengthen our walk with Him. 01:11 Let's meet our guest at this time. 01:13 Good to have you here, Carol. 01:15 Glad to be here, John. 01:17 Yeah, well, as we had a chance to visit 01:19 before our program, 01:20 it's fascinating to see how the Lord leads us 01:23 from where He finds us to where we are today. 01:26 And I'm particularly excited about the program today. 01:29 We're talking about communicating with God 01:32 and just for our viewers and our listeners 01:36 who may have not met you before, 01:37 just give us a brief background about yourself. 01:40 Well, I have been a devoted follower of Jesus 01:46 ever since I was a child. 01:47 But as I grew into adulthood, 01:50 God began to move me toward ministry 01:54 and eventually I ended up 01:57 becoming a public speaker in 1984 02:01 for American Cassette Ministries 02:03 and we now have the name American Christian Ministries 02:09 because we are in CDs now. 02:11 But these topics that I'll be talking about today 02:19 have been going around the world 02:21 through American Cassette Ministries 02:23 but now I have some very exciting things 02:28 I think to share about the Sanctuary 02:30 and relationships with God that help us 02:33 to understand how to be more prepared in our families 02:36 and in our churches and in the world 02:39 as we associate with people 02:41 so we can be ready for Jesus' coming. 02:43 You know, what's amazing about, 02:44 we talk about getting ready for the coming of the Lord 02:47 but we cannot hesitate to look back 02:49 on the very beginning of this entrance of sin 02:52 and why all we generalize it as man fell into sin. 02:57 We don't often say man broke his communication with God 03:00 and so I'm excited about the way you put that together 03:03 as relationship with communication. 03:05 You just build on that for us. 03:07 Well, when I first began the ministry back in 1984, 03:15 I was doing a series called The Sanctuary Prayer. 03:21 God had led me in my study to see 03:24 that the Sanctuary is experiential. 03:27 Before that I kind of thought the Sanctuary 03:30 was more like colors and furniture 03:34 and various things that were interesting 03:37 and that pointing forward to Jesus 03:39 and that was fascinating and rewarding to study. 03:43 But as I began to explore more about Jesus mentioning 03:48 or saying that the - that His Sanctuary 03:52 or the temple is a place of prayer for all people, 03:56 and so I began to dialogue with the Lord and say, 03:59 "How is it a place of prayer for all people. 04:01 How is that place of prayer for me and for us 04:04 of our generation since we don't even have 04:07 a Sanctuary here on this earth any more?" 04:10 And so as I studied I began to see 04:14 God leading me in the symbols of the Sanctuary, 04:16 majorly, the seven symbols in the Sanctuary 04:20 as being a model for prayer. 04:22 So for three and a half years 04:23 that's all I dealt with was the Sanctuary prayer 04:27 as it had to do with the relationship with God, 04:29 restored relationship with Him. 04:31 And so the Sanctuary is a wonderful word 04:33 picture of the Lord's work in our behalf 04:36 from the outer court to the inner court 04:38 to the Holy Place, to the most Holy Place. 04:40 And as you just pointed out all the articles of furniture 04:42 have a symbolic meaning that carries over into a-- 04:46 if I could use a phrase, antitypical meaning 04:49 although they are not being used today 04:50 by the earthly high priest, Jesus is still our high priest. 04:54 Yes. 04:55 And it's interesting you point out prayer 04:57 because right before the most Holy Place 04:59 is the altar of incense, 05:01 symbolizing the prayers of the saints continuing 05:04 to rise before the Lord. 05:05 Yes. Yes. 05:06 Which is so much about our communication. 05:08 But in your discovery of that, 05:11 we discover that in the Garden of Eden, 05:13 communication was broken between God and Adam and Eve. 05:18 Now how is the Lord seeking 05:19 to restore communication in the Sanctuary? 05:22 Well, when Eve listened to another voice, 05:27 she listened to the tempter. 05:30 Before that God would come everyday evidently 05:35 from all that we can tell in the cool of the day 05:37 and walk in the garden 05:39 and His children ran quickly to Him 05:42 and I'm sure they had wonderful communication 05:45 about things that had happened during the day 05:47 and things they wanted to talk over with God and-- 05:51 and so that communication was open and free, 05:54 they could talk to Him face to face about anything 05:57 and it was joyful. 05:59 But because they listened to the voice of the tempter 06:03 who was the enemy of God, the enemy of Jesus' especially 06:08 and who was trying to take the whole universe down 06:11 and use Adam and Eve for that 06:13 and he was only allowed to be in one tree, 06:15 that tree of course was called 06:17 the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 06:20 And so when Eve and eventually Adam 06:24 listened to that tempter, what happened was that 06:28 they now heard not just good from God 06:31 but they also heard the voice of the enemy 06:34 so they were, it was like a Babylon or confusion 06:38 because the tempter could speak to them 06:40 and God still would speak to them 06:42 but they began to find it much more difficult to know 06:46 which voice they were hearing and sin continued to escalate 06:51 because of the problems of hearing more than one voice 06:54 and many following just the voice of evil 06:57 and until of course God had to destroy the world 07:01 with the flood and start all over again so that-- 07:05 that communication with the evil one 07:07 became so paramount 07:09 that it's been destructive ever since that time. 07:12 And God wants to put that back together 07:14 so we don't listen to the voice of the enemy anymore. 07:16 You know, when I used to talk about 07:17 that I never thought about it that way. 07:18 That's very interesting and as a pastor you know, 07:21 we always look at different ways of looking 07:22 at the Sanctuary. 07:24 But truly when the Lord came to Adam and Eve 07:27 in the garden and Adam said, 07:29 "I heard your voice as you were walking in the garden 07:32 in the cool of the day and I hid myself. 07:35 Once again, you see clearly there that he had heard 07:37 the voice of God 07:38 so he recognized the voice of God, 07:41 but what had caused them to in the predicament 07:43 that they were in was Eve had listened to the voice of Satan 07:48 and Adam went into that with his eyes wide open 07:51 even though Eve was deceived. 07:52 So-- so the Lord, 07:54 the plan was he came after us to re-establish communication. 07:57 Right. 07:58 And he has been doing that ever since. 08:00 He's been pursuing us as a lover 08:03 because we are a wayward child. 08:05 We have gone far from Him and if He didn't pursue us, 08:09 we would listen only to the voice of the tempter. 08:12 But because God never gives up and He's always seeking ways 08:16 to restore us back to communication. 08:19 We can be so grateful that God pursues 08:23 until He wins us back. 08:25 That's the whole story of redemption 08:27 from the beginning until right now 08:29 and of course looking forward to the final redemption 08:31 being in heaven and being safe again. 08:34 But if we want to look just at the Sanctuary 08:38 and how that restores us back, 08:42 I want to go back to the story of the children of Israel. 08:48 When they came out of Egypt, 08:50 God said He wanted to take them as His own 08:53 and take them to a place 08:55 where they didn't have to be slaves anymore 08:57 and they didn't have to be in a situation 09:00 where it made them very difficult for them 09:03 to be obedient to Him and to His Laws. 09:06 And so He took them out of Egypt 09:10 and they went across the desert four ways 09:13 and then they camped at Mount Sinai. 09:16 And it's very interesting that God invited 09:20 the whole Israelite nation 09:23 to be a nation of priests and kings 09:27 which means that he wanted all of them 09:30 to be able to talk with him personally. 09:33 He wanted to restore that because Abraham, 09:35 Isaac and Jacob did know God. 09:38 They did talk with Him. 09:39 They did know His voice 09:40 and Abraham was said the he was a "Friend of God." 09:43 God wanted to have someone to share with 09:46 and Abraham was that man. 09:48 That's what a man of faith 09:49 and man of communication with God. 09:52 But we know what happened to the Israelite nation, 09:55 I mean they were in-- in that land of slavery 10:00 for so long for hundreds of years, 10:02 420 I think, 10:04 that they lost the impetus of their background 10:10 of being friends with God. 10:12 And so when in-- in- 10:17 when in Exodus God said to them, 10:20 "I want to show you how you can be my friend again 10:23 and hear my voice and not die, 10:26 and you'll be for me a kingdom of priest." 10:30 So they were told to how to prepare 10:33 for that meeting with God. 10:35 They were told to cleanse themselves 10:38 and their tents and-- and to basically prepare 10:43 the way the priest in the Sanctuary did. 10:46 So they did that. 10:48 But then when God came down on Mount Sinai, 10:52 and there was thunder and lightning 10:54 and the voice of God rang throughout that whole desert. 10:58 They were trembling. 11:00 Even Moses, the friend of God was trembling. 11:02 It was so powerful and they could see Him, 11:05 they could hear Him and they-- when it was all over they said, 11:09 they came to Moses and they said, 11:11 "Do not have God speak to us anymore. 11:15 They were so terrified. 11:16 And Moses said, "But-- 11:18 but God wants just for you to be a friend 11:22 and He just did that so that you would understand 11:25 how He wants to cleanse you of sin 11:26 and keep you from sinning 11:27 because His voice keeps you from sinning." 11:30 And they said, "That's fine, 11:33 maybe you want to do that but not us. 11:36 Speak to us yourself 11:37 but don't have God speak to us anymore." 11:40 That was very sad when they turned down 11:43 that opportunity to know God face to face. 11:47 And I often say that the - when we don't know someone, 11:50 it leads to greater fear. 11:52 That's why we are told in John 17:3, 11:54 "And this is life eternal that you know 11:58 the true God, and the Jesus, whom He sent." 12:00 So they thought the voice of God 12:02 was a stern voice rather than the loving voice 12:07 and it led them, I think you back to the Garden of Eden 12:10 and you'll see that Adam and Eve hid themselves. 12:13 Yes. 12:14 The one they should've been afraid of, 12:15 they didn't hide themselves from. 12:16 But the one that loved them endlessly, 12:19 was the one that-- 12:20 And I could imagine to some degree 12:21 that they had somewhat of the depression 12:24 which usually comes as a result of us 12:27 not hearing and being in tune with the real voice of God. 12:30 Exactly, absolutely and in saying 12:34 that it reminds me that before I get into my own story 12:39 about recovery from depression, 12:43 I want to point out that God did say then, 12:47 if they won't be-- 12:48 if they won't talk to me face to face personally, 12:53 then let them make me a Sanctuary 12:54 that I can dwell among them and then He chose certain-- 12:58 the certain tribe, of course Levi 13:00 and the Levites to be those priests 13:02 that would go before Him and be willing to cleanse themselves 13:05 before going in and to offer their sacrifices and so forth. 13:09 So they were ready to go in before the Lord. 13:12 But God in His most awesome way in that Sanctuary, 13:19 instead of them like they had heard 13:23 the voice of God on Sinai, He veiled that. 13:27 He veiled it with his- 13:28 with the veils around the Sanctuary, 13:30 the curtains and so forth 13:31 so they didn't have to see His glory. 13:34 They weren't-- because He did recognize 13:36 that because of their sin they were choosing not to, 13:39 and so that glory had to be 13:41 veiled with Him in the most Holy Place. 13:44 But the priests as they went in 13:46 went through a series of rituals 13:51 which brought them all the way in to the Sanctuary eventually. 13:55 And so that-- 13:57 that seven step Sanctuary ritual, 14:02 if we unlock that we will see the pathway back 14:07 to being intimate with God again. 14:09 I like the way you said that there's a seven step process. 14:13 You're also a family counselor, am I correct? 14:15 That's true. Yes. 14:16 And I've been involved in marriage counseling 14:18 for number of years also 14:19 and we could see that one of the keys 14:22 to a broken relationship 14:24 is an interrupted communication. 14:26 Oh, yes. 14:27 It must be the foundation of all broken relationships. 14:31 You could see it impacts almost every thing in a relationship. 14:34 Not just the intimacy 14:36 as we talked about here with God 14:37 and intimacy is much broader than 14:40 what we determine in society as the physical relationship. 14:42 Intimacy is so much more grandeur than that 14:46 because God's love is in it. 14:47 God pay unconditional love. 14:49 But you alluded a moment ago to as you-- 14:52 as you responded to the call of God 14:55 and you got involved in ministry with the Lord 14:58 and at some point you had a bout 15:00 with depression yourself. 15:01 Tell us about that? 15:03 Actually, that was only 10 years ago, 15:07 which puts several, quite a few years 15:11 if you look back to 84 until 10 years ago, 15:16 that was a long time when I was teaching 15:20 the Sanctuary and the steps in the Sanctuary 15:23 begin with "Come into His courts with Praise." 15:25 That's right. 15:26 "Come into His Presence with Praise." 15:29 "And Praise and Thanksgiving." Yes. 15:31 Especially Psalms 100 tells us 15:34 that and of course all throughout scripture. 15:36 And so I thought that all over the United States 15:41 and different parts of the world 15:42 about coming into His courts with praise. 15:44 How important that is because, 15:47 if we come in, in any other frame of mind, 15:51 if we come in with a sad fear down countenance 15:58 and thinking, "Oh, I'm such a wretch." 16:00 Or we come in with depression and so forth. 16:04 We try to come into the courts of God. 16:08 He is still there but our brain is on our selves 16:12 or on our problems. 16:13 And so we really can't communicate with God 16:16 because our own brains are shut off. 16:19 He never leaves us or forsakes us. 16:21 That's right. 16:22 But when we have an attitude of downcast and fear, 16:28 resentment, bitterness, 16:29 all these things that still rings 16:30 into our minds and our hearts. 16:32 We're on the way to emotional problems big time. 16:37 And that eventually did happen to me. 16:40 I never dreamed that it would 16:42 but before this what actually happened, 16:46 I was beginning to have a little bit of depression 16:53 because of a lot of stress in my life at the time. 16:57 In my work, in my-- trying to help people, 17:01 I began to get so involved with that, 17:07 that I wasn't communicating with God 17:09 on everything as well as I had been. 17:11 Overextending yourself. 17:13 Overextending myself. 17:15 That is true. 17:16 And so as I saw myself slipping, 17:21 I attended some meetings 17:24 of a friend of mine Carol Shumake 17:25 and I was sitting in the audience 17:28 and she asked us to get down and pray and beseech to 17:34 for whatever we had on our hearts 17:36 and I said to the Lord, 17:38 "Lord, I don't seem to be able to serve You the same way. 17:42 I'm not a Spirit-filled as I was. 17:43 I'm concerned about it." 17:46 And I said, is there anything left for me to do for You. 17:49 And while I was kneeling there in that meeting, 17:52 I heard the voice of the Holy Spirit 17:54 speak to my mind and he said, 17:57 "I am sending you into the very heart of the enemy's camp 18:02 to learn how to bring people back. 18:05 Well, I thought that was exciting to me 18:07 because I always wanted to work for the Lord and I thought, 18:10 "Oh, wow, I'm going to do something for the Lord 18:12 that will help people come out of their enemy's camp." 18:15 But at the same time not knowing how-- 18:17 how amazing a challenge that is. 18:19 I would say that. 18:20 Right. 18:21 And I did not know 18:23 that the heart of the enemy's camp is depression. 18:26 Clinical depression even, 18:28 because I went into the deepest levels of depression. 18:32 But back to the pathway down 18:37 after I was under a lot of stress for quite a long time 18:42 because of my work, then I got physically ill. 18:47 I got pneumonia and other pain, 18:52 chronic pain and a number of things 18:54 and it began to break me down. 18:56 So I was mentally and emotionally being bombarded 19:00 and then physically. 19:02 And while I was physically down, 19:06 then the clinical depression began to set in. 19:10 And to fast forward a little bit. 19:14 As the months went by 19:16 and I went deeper and deeper into this depression. 19:19 I got to the place 19:20 where I could no longer decide anything. 19:24 I couldn't decide to eat or take a bath. 19:29 My ability to make decisions was completely gone. 19:35 All I could do was just sit in a chair. 19:36 I would sit in the chair for days. 19:38 I would sleep in the chair all of sudden 19:39 because I couldn't decide 19:40 whether I should get up and do something or not. 19:43 So there was somewhat of a short circuiting 19:45 there at that. 19:47 Not only depression but like a block. 19:49 Totally, totally blocked 19:51 and all I could think about was darkness and depression 19:56 and then I began to hear the voices of the evil one 20:01 and you know, sometimes when people are-- 20:04 have mental illness, 20:05 one of the questions they ask them is "Do you hear voices?" 20:10 And I was like, "What is that?" 20:13 I could never imagine, 20:14 "What do you mean, do you hear voices?" 20:16 I heard voices and those voices told me, "You are lost." 20:21 You are - "See what you have done, 20:24 you are not going to be saved, you are already lost. 20:27 Your probation has closed." 20:29 All and all of these and also voices 20:33 that were telling me they were going to destroy my family, 20:35 burn my house down 20:36 and this was the voice of the evil one 20:38 I really went into the very heart of the enemy's camp. 20:42 When I heard his voice 20:43 and I didn't hear God's voice anymore. 20:45 You know, somebody maybe asking the question, 20:47 well, thinking of the question, so I'll ask it. 20:50 How do you become so actively involved in the Lord' work? 20:55 I'm kind of coming up with the answer. 20:57 I'm almost thinking that 20:58 it is at the point of overextending yourself. 21:01 And then you just get 21:02 to the point of clinical depression 21:05 where it's almost like the communication is shut off. 21:08 And you can't find the Lord. 21:10 How do you-- I mean, 21:11 at what point did you find that transition? 21:13 Was it an instant thing or did you feel it gradually? 21:15 No, it was gradual. 21:16 It was so gradual that I didn't know 21:18 what was happening to me and I-- 21:21 when I got to the place 21:22 where I couldn't make any decisions anymore. 21:24 I couldn't decide to eat. 21:26 My family would try to make me eat 21:28 and I would just sit there with the food in front of me 21:31 and I couldn't figure out whether I should eat it or not. 21:33 And finally if they fought, 21:34 if they would get tired of sitting there 21:36 trying to make me eat and go away 21:38 which I kept hoping that they would. 21:40 I would get up and leave the food on the table 21:42 because I couldn't decide whether I should or not. 21:45 And so I know what it feels like 21:47 to not be able to even use your mind anymore. 21:50 But while I hadn't realized was that one pathway 21:54 toward that was quit complaining. 21:58 I began to become a complainer before I ever got that sick. 22:02 So the seeds were being sowed. 22:04 The seeds were being sown of complaining. 22:07 You know, I didn't like the fact 22:09 that I was under stress. 22:11 I didn't like the things that caused me distress. 22:13 I didn't like the people who caused me distress. 22:16 And I would say negative things and my friends would say, 22:20 "Carol, you've never talked like this before. 22:23 Why are you talking like this?" 22:24 And I'd said, "Well," 22:26 and then I would tell why I'm complaining. 22:28 And my friends were just shocked. 22:30 They didn't know what to do. 22:31 But I didn't see the downward current. 22:35 But I didn't see it 22:37 until finally I got down to 82 pounds. 22:40 My family was terrified that I was going to die 22:45 and they put me in a mental institution. 22:48 While I was in the mental institution, 22:50 I was only there for two and a half weeks. 22:52 It seemed like forever. 22:54 But while I was in there, 22:55 I began to take stock of myself and say, 22:58 "What am I doing here?" 23:00 And looked around and all the mentally ill people 23:03 and all the people that were just, 23:05 you know, really crazy. 23:06 I'm sorry to say that. 23:08 But, and I thought "I don't belong here." 23:11 And so I would tell people, "I don't belong here." 23:14 And there would like "Sure, you don't belong here." 23:18 But that's interesting though. 23:19 When you get into that kind of, I mean downward spiral, 23:21 then all of a sudden you're trapped. 23:22 You are like in jail now. 23:23 Right. 23:24 In that spiritual prison. 23:26 Tell me, 'cause our program is winding down 23:29 and I want our viewers to get this point, our listeners. 23:31 How did you get out of that? I mean what? 23:34 Well, that's what I'm going to tell you. 23:36 While I was in there, 23:38 because of the pressure of thinking, 23:41 I'm never going to get out. 23:43 I'm 60 years old. 23:45 60 year old women with clinical depression 23:47 as bad as mine don't get well. 23:49 I mean, I was a nurse 23:50 and I was into psychology too in counseling 23:54 and I knew that I was in a desperate situation. 23:57 And so I began to think, "What, why am I here, what happened?" 24:02 And then I remembered, I forgot about the Sanctuary. 24:06 "Come into his courts with praise." 24:08 I didn't say any praise anymore. 24:11 I didn't say thanks to God for anything. 24:13 I didn't say anything positive. 24:15 And anytime a person would come up to me and say, 24:18 "How are you doing?" 24:19 I would say, "Oh, it's terrible. 24:20 I don't have enough food" and you know, 24:22 and I'm starting on this really sick stuff. 24:24 And people were just like, 24:26 they didn't want to talk to me anymore 24:27 because I was constantly complaining 24:30 and griping and all of a sudden, 24:33 I thought, "I'm not in the Sanctuary.'' 24:37 And so I began and I said, 24:40 "All right, the only way back to mental health," 24:43 and the doctors didn't think I would ever get well. 24:47 Nobody really did because they never had seen 24:50 anybody in their family, in our family 24:53 or whatever that was-- that sick. 24:55 And I said, if there's anyway back, 24:59 it's through the Sanctuary. 25:00 And so I began to try to force myself 25:03 to say positive things and praise. 25:06 As I pushed beyond this critical spirit 25:09 and made a covenant with myself and God 25:13 that I would come back into the Sanctuary 25:16 little by little I was able to actually praise. 25:20 At first I couldn't. 25:21 I would - and you know, 25:22 when people say, "How are you doing?" 25:23 And I would, I would think, I'd try to think, 25:26 "What am I supposed to say?" 25:27 I'm not doing well. 25:29 But I'm not supposed to say that. 25:30 So I would just say, "God is good." 25:32 Okay. 25:33 Good shot. Wonderful. 25:35 And as I began to praise, I began to get well. 25:39 It took months of that, several months. 25:43 Actually it was a gradual process. 25:45 But the praise of God healed my mind. 25:49 And it put me back into communication with Him 25:53 to where I'm now fully able to have my life back, 25:57 my family back, my career back, my God back, my ministry back. 26:02 And I believe, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, 26:06 it's because of the healing power of the praise. 26:09 That's right. 26:10 And that is the first step in the Sanctuary, 26:12 come into His courts with praise and thanksgiving. 26:16 That's wonderful and as our program is winding up, 26:19 I know that our listeners and viewers are saying, 26:22 "I need to praise the Lord more, 26:23 not just to say 'God is good." 26:25 And as you think about that, friends, 26:27 you can see in Carol's life the difference between 26:29 depression and deliverance 26:32 is "entering into His gates with thanksgiving 26:35 and into His courts with praise." 26:37 As a pastor, sometimes I've seen many people, 26:39 they come to church 26:40 and you could see on their faces and then I said, 26:41 "One day I'm gonna put a video camera on the pulpit 26:43 and then just videotape while I'm doing the sermon, 26:46 because so many people have their minds somewhere else 26:48 and at the end of the sermon some people say, 26:51 "Oh, that was a wonderful message." 26:52 Others, it's as though 26:54 it's just always a steel granite wall 26:56 just bounces off and doesn't-- and doesn't absorb. 26:59 And so would you say 27:00 that the way to wholeness is praising the Lord? 27:02 Absolutely, it is-- they have-- 27:07 the scientists have discovered 27:09 that the body reacts positively to praise. 27:12 It's not just the mind alone 27:14 but the whole body reacts positively to praise. 27:17 I could talk for another hour on that 27:20 but suffice it to say 27:22 that God has created our whole minds 27:23 and our whole bodies to respond to this atmosphere of praise, 27:27 which is the atmosphere of heaven, 27:29 because that's what they are doing all the time in heaven. 27:31 Wow, well, thank you 27:32 for sharing that with us, Carol. 27:33 Program is short but very, very sweet. 27:35 Thank you for sharing with us 27:36 the answer to coming out of depression 27:38 and into deliverance. 27:40 Well, friends, as you know here at Issues and Answers, 27:41 that's one answer to whatever issue you may have. 27:44 If you are in darkness, there is deliverance 27:46 and begin by "entering into the Lord's presence 27:49 with thanksgiving and into His courts with praise." 27:51 Until we see you again, May the Lord bless you. |
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