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Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn.
Welcome to Issues and Answers.
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And we're already having a
good time here on the set. Today
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we're going to be talking about
Darwinism and DNA. You know, the
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Bible says in Genesis 1:27 that
God created man in his own image
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in the image and likeness of God
he created him, male and female
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he created them. Is it true that
we have a creator or as Darwin
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theorized and surmised that
there was just a warm pile of
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goo and we came crawling out
of it. We're going to be talking
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again today with Jim Burr
and Jim welcome back to 3ABN.
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Thank you. Yeah
this is going to be a
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fascinating topic and I don't
want to take any of your time
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so let's just
jump right into it.
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These half hours go fast,
don't they? They do. You know
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something I really
think I need to mention here.
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It's interesting when
you're looking at archeology and
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you're looking at fossils
that every new discovery gets
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headlines. There was a discovery
in 1999 and in National
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Geographic, and I don't
think this is going to go on the
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camera so I'll show it to you.
It may be on the camera. They
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have discovered this fossil and
now they said we finally have
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the missing link between
birds and dinosaurs, and it was
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mentioned several times as the
missing link, and we can now say
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that birds are pterypods just as
surely as we can say that humans
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are mammals. There were 8-10
pages, beautiful color pages,
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about feathers for T-Rex. This
was in November of 1999. It was
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later discovered this was a
forgery. Somebody had gone in
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and doctored up a fossil, put
a tail and put different legs on
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it to make it look like a bird.
So in November this eight pages
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came out. In April, here is the
retraction saying we were fooled
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it was not a fossil.
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So eight pages compared to three
tiny little paragraphs of a
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retraction. Yeah,
that's right. Now what's
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interesting to me is the
headlines they get. I mean,
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every few months you see
some new discovery that proves
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evolution. Shelley, if let's say
the University of San Diego made
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a press release today and it
said we have a new discovery.
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We have proven that cigarettes
cause lung cancer. How much
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headline would you
think they would get tomorrow?
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They would not get
any. Everybody knows that.
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On every pack of cigarettes it
says that. Everybody knows that
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right. And yet many
evolutionists would come
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across saying we have an
infinite amount, we have just
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lots of fossils. We have
all these fossils. You know, we
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don't need any more fossils and
yet every fossil that comes out
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gets a big headline.
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Because the
evidence is so underwhelming.
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Yes, exactly right, exactly
right. Something I've been
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really fascinated with and
this is a model I made of the
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bacterial flagellar motor. The
little bacteria can swim. It has
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all the ingredients of a motor.
It has a starter like you have
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in your blender. And it has
an armature, it has bearings in
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there and it has a universal
joint. It has a propeller that
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allows it to swim. It's kind of
a whip-like thing. And actually
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some of these can spin 100,000
times a second. You know the
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closest thing we've got to that
on planet earth is a dentist's
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drill. And this is a bacteria?
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This is bacteria and you can
put four billion of them in a
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thimble. And they can stop on a
dime and reverse directions, you
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see. And how did this all evolve
Well Michael Behe has always
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said that this is irreducibly
complex. You need everything
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to make it work. You take
off the propeller it won't swim.
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Everything on here you have to
have. There was a trial in Dover
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Pennsylvania and they brought
in witnesses and they tried to
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show that there was something
similar to this that even though
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it didn't spin it looked a
little bit like this. So they
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tried to challenge the claims of
intelligent design and the judge
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bought it and they threw it out
the idea of intelligent design.
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But anyhow as I know how time
goes by so fast here I'm going
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down here to the meat of
the program. Jonathan Wells, the
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doctor that wrote this book
Darwinism and Intelligent Design
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and he says Darwinian evolution
will lose because of the
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evidence. They've had
150 years and the evidence is
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underwhelming. All these years
they've had and intelligent
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design has actually come out
in recent time and is coming on
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strong. Doctors and scientists
are beginning to join in on that
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They would tell you that in a
warm little pond is where life
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started, a little amoeba. It's
like goo to you by way of the
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zoo as somebody has said. You
started as an amoeba, look at
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you now. As
we've said in previous
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programs the thing that always
amazes me is as much as they
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studied a tiny little amoeba
cell and how complicated it is.
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You said last program, I believe
it was, that they have proven
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that it's more complicated,
the single cell, than all of the
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universe works. Yet, as much
as they try to duplicate that,
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study it or watch it to see
if it will evolve or split or do
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this, that and the other, they
can't get it to do it. So it's
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fascinating... You
know we're going to get into
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that, how you could evolve
things upward, how mistakes in
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the replication of DNA could add
information, useful information.
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Let's say that this book
had enough information you could
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make an amoeba, there's enough
information there to make an
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amoeba. But now you want to give
him an eye; what do you need?
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You need more volumes of
information, right? And you can
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never evolve this information
upward. We're going to show that
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when I get to the cake recipe.
OK. But you know Romans 1:18
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says that the invisible things
of him from the creation of the
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world are clearly seen.
Those who don't accept a creator
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it talks about the wrath of God
but it says they will be without
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excuse. People who want
to believe evolution can find
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people... I mean they have
itching ears. They can tell them
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what they want to hear, make
them feel comfortable, OK it
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sounds good. I'll buy that. I
don't have to believe in a God.
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But the Bible says that there's
enough evidence, the invisible
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things of him in the creation
of the world are clearly seen so
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they'll be without excuse,
people who say there is no God.
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It doesn't matter if it's an ant
bed or a termite colony. I mean
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there's an order in a termite
colony. They've got a way to
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protect their queen and to
escape these things. There has
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to be a creator
behind all of this.
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You know I have a microscope.
It's not only the telescope but
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the microscope. OK. I enjoy
looking through the microscope.
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I failed to mention that you
design these type of instruments
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and some of your instruments
have been purchased by NASA.
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So you've got some credibility
here. The fascination once was
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the universe; now you're getting
where you're fascinated with the
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cells aren't you. It
just blows me away again.
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But I'm going to show you some
little creatures from a pond
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water behind our house. They
are called rotifers. They have a
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clip now I think ready to roll.
These little guys look like
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Huey helicopters. They have dual
blades. They're cilia, they're
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not propellers
but they look like it.
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Are these the ones you said were
tiny enough to swim inside my
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hair? Yes, they
can swim right up your
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hair and if you've got fat hair
they could probably do a U-turn
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and swim back down. Now they're
playing volleyball there with
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that diatom, that radiosymetric
diatom. These little propellers
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are retractable. Did you
see them on the right being
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being retracted. There he goes.
He's a server. He pulls this
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back in. Now see him open
them up. You can see the heart
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beating on those too. These
are not single cells. These are
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actually maybe a thousand cells.
You see him on the left over
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there playing volleyball again,
rotating that little thing.
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You cannot see them with the
human eye and yet they're small
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enough to swim inside a human
hair. I'm going to show you a
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human hair. Coming up now you're
going to see on the screen the
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size of a human hair under the
microscope in comparison. You'll
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see these little guys are
smaller than the human hair.
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That's incredible. How would you
classify a rotifer, what is it?
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It's a small celled creature
that lives in ponds. It can
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travel on the wind. There's
a hundred thousand varieties of
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rotifers, a hundred thousand
varieties. These are leech-type.
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And they're like little motor
boats. They have their tail
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hooked to the slide and if
they let that tail go you'll see
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them take off and you can't keep
up with them. In one of these
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cuts you'll see it swim across.
You'll see he's coming this way
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you'll see him rotating as he
goes. That's how they find their
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food is by filtering water
as they spin these cilia. Looks
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like propellers. But I think
they're going to show us the
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human hair coming up and so
you'll be able to see the size
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of human hair. And we're
going to have a couple of other
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rotifers on there as well. The
human hair will take up about a
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third of that screen. Now
they're under a piece of duck
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weed, those six or so you see
there. That's part of an arch
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of a duck weed. Here's a little
different type of rotifer.
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You'll see him; he's retractable
too. That pointer is part of the
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microscope. And you see him
drawing water to get his food.
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Sometimes you can even see
it spit out. There it retracted,
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you see it
retract and open up again.
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That's amazing. This can't
be seen with the naked eye.
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No you can't see it. Now there's
some sort of a little worm type.
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There goes a rotifer across the
screen and that's some little
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worm-type creature there. I
thought we had the human hair.
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Maybe we don't. Now this is one
of my favorites. They're Euglena
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Look at how he can stretch that
neck out. You'll see one from
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the bottom. He can stretch clear
across the screen. I see them
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look like they're out fly
fishing. Look at this one at the
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bottom now. They
call these Euglena.
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And these are tiny little things
that can actually fit inside a
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human hair. Yes. A
human hair normally, if
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you've got fine hair, it's
probably 1000th of an inch to
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2000th of an inch. If you've got
coarse hair it may be 500th of
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an inch. A business card would
be 500th to 1000th of an inch
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so they'd be smaller
than the thickness of a...
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It never occurred to me that a
little life form like that could
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have a heartbeat. I
didn't even think about that.
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Yes, Yes. So
would they have DNA?
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Yes, Yes they have DNA. That's
about the end of the clip there.
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I think there were a couple of
Euglena hugging each other here
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somewhere. But anyhow, yes, they
are smaller than a human hair.
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So the DNA... Shelley, I've got
a message for you. This is the
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message. I think you'll like the
message and I hope you can read
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the message. Are
you going to help me
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decipher this? Is
there a code here.
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There's a code there. There's
only one person on planet earth
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that knows what the message
is there, the Lord and me. OK. I
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wrote it. Oh OK. I wrote the
code. But it doesn't have any
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meaning to you does it? None.
It says God loves you. You knew
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that but you couldn't read
the code, right? What it is is a
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modified Morse code. I took the
Morse code and modified it and
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so each letter ends with the
next red and the next one starts
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It starts from this side. So
I assigned this a meaning saying
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the white ones are the dot, the
long dashes, and the blue ones
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dits. So this would be dot, dot,
dot, dit. This would be dot, dot
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dah, dah. Dot, dot, dah, dit. So
this would be God L, this is U,
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this is L. God loves you. But
you see, this is because we've
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assigned meaning to this. It
has no meaning unless you assign
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meaning. So assigned meaning
means we have to have two people
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It has to be at least between
two people or it has no meaning.
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You see I can't communicate
anything. We could tie knots on
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a rope or add it on a floppy
disk or whatever but we assign
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meaning to something. In other
words, you could sit a monkey
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down at a typewriter and he just
types gobbledy gook but every
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once and a while you might see
C- A-T or D-O-G. OK. The monkey
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didn't know what that says but
we have assigned a meaning to
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that. So when we look at the DNA
the DNA has all the information
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that would
reproduce Shelley Quinn.
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All right, now let's explain
this. Because the blue here
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represents the DNA and
you said that was like a book.
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Yeah, this is like the rope part
here you get from your mother.
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Your mother reproduces one
half of her DNA, one half her
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chromosomes, you get 23
chromosomes from your mother,
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23 from your father. So one
strand comes from your father,
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one comes from your
mother and it makes up you.
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And then the chromosomes
are like the... That's what the
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white here is representing and
this would be like the chapters
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in a book. Yeah, the
strands here would be
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like at book. These
would be like the chapters.
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The chromosomes would be like
sentences, the genes, yeah the
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genes are like sentences.
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So we've got the DNA is like the
book, the chromosomes are the
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chapters and the genes are
the sentences in the chapters.
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And all of this has to come from
two people to make up the code,
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this is what you were showing me
here. There's a code here that
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has meaning and this... No
two people have the same DNA. So
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this is basically a recipe for
Jim Burr or for Shelley Quinn
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and it's unique, it's individual
So it shows that there was a lot
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of thought that went into
creating each individual. But
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now you said that there's 23
from each, is that correct? So
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that's 46 chromosomes.
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Well the chromosomes aren't
shown really on here. These are
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the building blocks of DNA.
These are the exact designations
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T, T, A, A, A, A, T, T,
that they have assigned to the
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proteins that make up the
building blocks here. And then
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we had G, G, C, C, G, G, and
so forth. Probably ran out of
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letters and then I had to use
one to fill it out and so I put
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in here J for junk DNA and
scientists say there's junk DNA.
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That came from evolution. That's
junk DNA that was left over from
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the evolutionary process
and probably it's just DNA they
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haven't figured out yet. The
interesting thing is there's a
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message here and it has
take hundreds of thousands of
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scientists' hours to be able to
read the DNA. Francis Crick and
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those guys finally figured it
out. But the cells knew it from
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the beginning. The cells could
read this code. You see it's
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like you didn't know what this
code said. The cells in your
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body said, ah-ha, I'm supposed
to make a heart, I'm supposed
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to make your lungs, I'm
supposed to make your blue eyes.
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You see all the things about you
that spell you out are in the
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genes that are in the DNA.
There's something I want to ask
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you because you hear that the...
Let's see, we're 46 chromosomes,
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that's 23 from each parent, and
then we hear something about the
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apes being 48. Yeah 48. So
there's a big to do over that
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we're two chromosomes away from
an ape, but you shared something
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with me that I thought was
fascinating about tobacco and
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the bat. Yes.
You're only two chromosomes
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away from being a bat or a
tobacco plant. A fern is like
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400 and some chromosomes.
So you can't really base it...
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If they say we're only two
chromosomes away from being a
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chimpanzee that really doesn't
carry any weight. That's really
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not how... So
that's just one of those
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evolutionary or the
evolutionists ideas of hype
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if you will. It
sounds like a good argument.
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Right? They say oh look at here.
That's makes headlines, that
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kind of stuff. But if
we said we're only two
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chromosomes away from a
bat, nobody paid any attention.
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That's right. So scientists have
worked for decades to be able
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to read this, but the cells
could read it all the time the
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way God designed it. So to
illustrate this a little more
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the process of evolution, I
have a recipe here for cake. OK,
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there's a cake recipe and you
wouldn't have any problem making
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a fruit cake. All right. That's
all the ingredients for making
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a fruit cake. This
is a real fruit cake.
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That's a real fruit cake, yes.
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All right is it a spicy dark
fruit cake or a light fruit cake
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The thing is every time the DNA
reproduces, replicates itself,
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to illustrate, every time
you make this cake you've got to
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rewrite this recipe. You see
every time you compare it with
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DNA, every time it replicates
itself, it rewrites the recipe.
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Oh, OK. This is
fairly simple. But let's
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say you had big recipe. Let's
say that you had to rewrite this
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one a typewriter. Now your DNA
in each cell is six feet long.
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Wow. If you could
unravel all the DNA
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in all of your cells it would
reach to the moon like back and
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forth a million times. I forget
the numbers, it's incredible.
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But if you're going to
sit at a typewriter and try to
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reduplicate this, once in a
while you'll make a mistake,
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wouldn't you. There's quite
a bit on here and you'd make a
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mistake. Well that's how
evolution says that we came to
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to be. That's how amoeba got the
eyeball or whatever was in the
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process of evolution was by
mistakes or mutations. In the
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process of trying to copy
this there is a mistake made, a
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mutation. So that is how
evolution says we got here.
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Everything evolved, the survival
of the fittest and natural
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selection. Yet as
we spoke about in a
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previous program the Bible
says that God created everything
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after its kind and you've
got cats and you've got dogs and
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through all these 1000s of years
we haven't seen a cat become a
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dog or a dog become a cat and
they cannot mate, their DNA just
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doesn't mingle. Yes,
so what's interesting is
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that if you were going to type
this out you'd make a mistake.
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You know, suppose you had a
mutation where you typed in the
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wrong number. The one from your
father, that would be from your
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mother, the one from the
father you have redundancy here.
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It's duplicated so that if
there's a hiccup over here it
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can sense that there's a problem
and it puts the right one in.
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And it's only if your father
and you mother both have missing
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one or if you missed the
replication of the code that you
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have the problem. So it's
redundant, it's overlapping,
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it is so incredibly complex, the
DNA. To think that this a recipe
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for cloning you, recreating you.
If you get burned in a fire, the
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Lord can recreate you. All
you need is the DNA, right?
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Amen. Now suppose you're going
to put frosting on this cake.
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If you're typing this recipe
out every time you rewrite it,
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rewrite it you might make a
mistake and say well we put in
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a teaspoon instead of a
tablespoon or something like
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that, right. Is that going
to get frosting on the cake?
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What do you need if you're going
to put frosting on the cake?
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A different recipe, you
need more information don't you?
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So here's a recipe for frosting.
OK. It not only tells you the
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ingredients for frosting but it
tells you how to cook it and you
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know whatever the process is
right? So you see that for this
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amoeba to become a man you need
more information and making a
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mistake on the DNA can never add
information. In fact, it goes
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the other way. In evolution you
actually lose information. Now
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let me illustrate. Suppose we
picked up a couple dogs off the
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the street, a couple mutts
off the street, OK. And they got
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together and had pups, OK. And
we looked at this big litter of
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pups. You know, there's the runt
of the litter over there, right.
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He's a little smaller. He's kind
of cute but he's kind of small
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and there's one that's kind of
gangly and he's bigger and kind
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of a boss. Suppose you picked
the two biggest ones and the
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two smallest ones. I want
to breed some little dogs, cute
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little dogs. So you got the
littlest ones together and then
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you got the biggest ones
together and from their litter
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you took again and you went out
and you picked the biggest two
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and the smallest, the runt
of the litter and you got them
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together. What's going to happen
and it doesn't take that long
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You're going to end up
with something that looks like a
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Chihuahua and something that
looks like a great Dane. You see
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and it is so incredible to think
that God put in these genes all
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the elements for the
diversity we see on the planet.
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But the point is to that story
though is that no matter how
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many times you do this a dog is
still a dog. He's not going to
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become a bat. But
eventually you get to the
00:22:03.11\00:22:05.33
point where you have this
tiny little dog. You could never
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breed a dog that would be the
size of a mouse or the size of a
00:22:07.67\00:22:09.91
horse. OK. There's not
information in the genes.
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There's information here that
will make some long-haired and
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short-haired and some long legs.
You see you could take a dog and
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take him to Alaska and the ones
that just don't have the genes
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to make long hair, they're going
to not survive very well. So
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what's going to happen? The ones
are going to reproduce are the
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ones that have the longest hair.
Or maybe you take them to Miami
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where it's hot and they get heat
stroke, the ones with all the
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hair. You see natural selection
works but you can never get to a
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new species. That's exactly
right. So eventually you've got
00:22:41.66\00:22:46.16
your Chihuahua and your great
Danes and you might put them on
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an island. Would they be able to
reproduce? Well they might have
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a problem reproducing just
because of the size. I don't
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know if the genes would be a
problem, but eventually you get
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to the place where your
Chihuahuas, you highly breed
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them enough they will never have
the features of great Danes and
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you'll never have the big bones
in there. The genes have lost
00:23:04.66\00:23:08.76
information. You don't
have information. Eventually the
00:23:08.79\00:23:12.31
huskies up there in the cold
country, they keep breeding and
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and breeding and
breeding. Eventually there's no
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information in the genes that's
going to make short-haired ones
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you see. So you see how you need
information to put frosting on
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that cake. And you can
never get there. Evolution loses
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information instead of adds
information. Because evolution
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says if you give enough time
you kiss that frog he's going to
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turn into a prince. That's
another program. I clipped some
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articles. I watched the
newspaper for one year and
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clipped all the articles because
I used to do this all the time
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in my program, invite little
girls up to come kiss a frog and
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see if we could turn him into a
prince. And if we could turn him
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into a prince we call that
a fairy tale unless you put in
00:23:53.33\00:23:57.03
billions of years. Then we
call it science, you know. And I
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clipped articles for one year
and for one year I just clipped
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all the articles in the
newspaper. The latest discovery
00:24:02.51\00:24:06.29
extends the human family tree
billions of years. Like I got
00:24:06.32\00:24:10.03
about 10 articles or 12 articles
out of the newspaper in one year
00:24:10.07\00:24:12.74
that I watched it, to show
that we need more, billions and
00:24:12.77\00:24:16.39
billions and billions
and billions of years to get
00:24:16.42\00:24:18.67
evolution to happen.
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Then part of them are probably
like the one that you just
00:24:19.76\00:24:24.41
featured from the magazine that
they come back and much of it
00:24:24.44\00:24:28.87
has been fabricated or it's
all theorized in other words.
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Yeah. Search for extra-
terrestrial. We might even have
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time to get to that Shelley.
00:24:35.13\00:24:36.42
Now how are we
going to tie that in.
00:24:36.46\00:24:39.17
Well because you know
what? I mean they're looking for
00:24:39.21\00:24:45.46
extra-terrestrial life. They
listen two billion frequencies
00:24:45.50\00:24:49.04
a day I think on each star they
scan two billion frequencies.
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They've looked at hundreds and
hundreds and hundreds of stars
00:24:52.71\00:24:56.28
looking for information.
This code-if you put this on a
00:24:56.31\00:24:59.19
modulated signal from a
satellite dish, dit, dit, dah,
00:24:59.23\00:25:02.05
dah, dah, dit, dit, dit-that's
SOS. What would they say?
00:25:02.09\00:25:04.88
Intelligent life, right?
If you send the Morse code out
00:25:05.82\00:25:07.56
bits of information, sequential,
they'd say there's intelligent
00:25:07.60\00:25:12.19
life in space. My point
is if you took your DNA and
00:25:12.22\00:25:16.71
modulated a signal from Alpha
Centauri, the closest star we
00:25:16.75\00:25:20.27
have, and beamed it towards this
search for extra-terrestrial
00:25:20.31\00:25:23.80
program, headlines, world
headlines tomorrow, you know
00:25:23.83\00:25:25.92
what it would say? We've
discovered intelligent life in
00:25:25.96\00:25:28.02
space because this
took intelligence. It took
00:25:28.39\00:25:30.87
intelligence to design it.
00:25:31.01\00:25:32.04
Oh I get what you're saying.
00:25:32.07\00:25:33.10
It took intelligence to read it.
The cells can read it from the
00:25:33.13\00:25:35.50
very beginning the day God
created Adam and Eve the cells
00:25:35.53\00:25:38.17
could look at this and say
this means to make a heart, this
00:25:38.21\00:25:40.61
means to make a lung, this means
make a fingernail, this means
00:25:40.64\00:25:43.77
make blue eyes. The information
is here and the cells could read
00:25:43.80\00:25:46.88
it. And it's taken us how many
thousands of years to be able
00:25:46.92\00:25:49.85
to read this code and they're
finally starting now to read it.
00:25:49.88\00:25:52.78
I don't think
they can read it all.
00:25:52.81\00:25:53.84
Many still won't acknowledge
that this is intelligent design
00:25:53.87\00:25:59.92
And the intelligence behind
it was God. That's your point.
00:25:59.95\00:26:05.94
That's good. And that would if
we got this code coming from a
00:26:05.98\00:26:10.83
star and it was intercepted
we would definitely be saying it
00:26:10.87\00:26:15.69
was intelligence on
another planet. That's amazing.
00:26:15.72\00:26:21.06
There's a quotation from Steven
J. Gould that I thought was
00:26:21.10\00:26:23.87
interesting. He said, man or
woman, the crowning achievement
00:26:23.91\00:26:26.65
of some cosmic plan.
What mortal could seek?
00:26:26.68\00:26:30.09
You see it's so conceited to
think you're something special,
00:26:30.13\00:26:33.31
so conceited to think this earth
is something special. You know,
00:26:33.34\00:26:36.49
we're noting. Steven J. Gould
said what mortal conceit to
00:26:36.52\00:26:39.60
think that you're the crowning
achievement of some cosmic plan.
00:26:39.64\00:26:42.99
He says you are a little
accidental twick. You are a
00:26:43.02\00:26:47.59
little accidental twick. Is
it any wonder in Japan 60,000
00:26:47.63\00:26:51.41
people jump in front of a train.
Life has gone bad and you have
00:26:51.45\00:26:57.48
evolved and you're
nothing more than an animal...
00:26:57.51\00:26:59.00
You know this is something that
I wish we had further to go with
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We're out of time now. But
I want to thank you for coming
00:27:02.48\00:27:07.21
Jim. What a thought to end on.
We want to say that there are
00:27:07.24\00:27:12.31
many places where young people
have never heard. They've been
00:27:12.35\00:27:16.41
taught evolution but they've
never been taught about God.
00:27:16.45\00:27:20.68
They do not know that they are
special, they are unique, that
00:27:20.71\00:27:24.50
God created them. These people
get involved in gangs and they
00:27:24.53\00:27:28.28
get involved in problems and
then you teach them about God.
00:27:28.32\00:27:31.60
All of a sudden they've got a
will to live, they want to live.
00:27:31.63\00:27:36.04
They want to know what God's
plan is. You are unique. You're
00:27:36.08\00:27:40.96
not an accident. You're not here
by some little cosmic design.
00:27:40.99\00:27:46.03
You're here by God's will and
he loves you and he wants you to
00:27:46.06\00:27:51.07
love him as well.
Thanks for joining us.
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