Hello, I am Shelley Quinn 00:00:30.36\00:00:31.54 and welcome again to Issues and Answers. 00:00:31.57\00:00:33.71 We hope that you are having a wonderful day wherever you are. 00:00:33.74\00:00:36.60 And we thank you, for this opportunity 00:00:36.63\00:00:38.53 to come in to your home whether you are in Japan or China, 00:00:38.56\00:00:43.01 Australia, New Zealand, 00:00:43.04\00:00:45.01 wherever you are around the world 00:00:45.04\00:00:47.11 we are so thankful that we could be come in. 00:00:47.14\00:00:49.56 And today we've got a really interesting issue. 00:00:49.59\00:00:53.20 We are going to be talking about "Unfinished Business." 00:00:53.23\00:00:57.07 And the business I am referring to is the Father's business. 00:00:57.10\00:00:59.81 The last great command that Jesus gave His people 00:00:59.84\00:01:03.59 before leaving earth is found in Matthew 28:18 00:01:03.62\00:01:09.55 and He approach the people and here's what He said, 00:01:09.58\00:01:12.66 "All authority has been given unto Me under heaven and earth. 00:01:12.69\00:01:16.59 Therefore I am telling you go and make disciples 00:01:16.62\00:01:21.48 of all nations, baptizing them 00:01:21.51\00:01:23.73 in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, 00:01:23.76\00:01:26.58 teaching them to observe every thing 00:01:26.61\00:01:30.08 that I have commanded you, and lo, 00:01:30.11\00:01:32.47 I am with you always, even to the end of the age." 00:01:32.50\00:01:36.45 What is the unfinished business? 00:01:36.48\00:01:38.69 Are we making disciples of all nations 00:01:38.72\00:01:43.09 in the authority of Jesus Christ that He has granted us? 00:01:43.12\00:01:46.80 Please help me welcome to discuss this, 00:01:46.83\00:01:50.74 returning to us once again, its Ken and Julie Norton. 00:01:50.77\00:01:54.31 And we are so thankful that you've come back. 00:01:54.34\00:01:56.44 Thank you. Thank you. 00:01:56.47\00:01:57.50 Now, Julie, you all are with LIFE, 00:01:57.53\00:01:59.89 that's and acronym, L-I-F-E. 00:01:59.92\00:02:02.03 What does that stands for? 00:02:02.06\00:02:03.52 Lay Institute for Evangelism and basically 00:02:03.55\00:02:07.15 we are a training school for normal people 00:02:07.18\00:02:11.14 that work in a business world or where ever they are. 00:02:11.17\00:02:13.88 You know, many people feel a passion to want to reach out 00:02:13.91\00:02:16.82 into their community and they feel like 00:02:16.85\00:02:19.41 maybe they don't know how. 00:02:19.44\00:02:21.16 So our lay training school that sometimes we put training online 00:02:21.19\00:02:26.20 and they can access these training online. 00:02:26.23\00:02:30.58 That's wonderful. Now you also have 00:02:30.61\00:02:32.66 onsite training programs at your camp? 00:02:32.69\00:02:34.49 We do. We have some onsite campus base programs. 00:02:34.52\00:02:37.78 And tell me a little bit about that. 00:02:37.81\00:02:39.16 Well, we have a summer program 00:02:39.19\00:02:40.66 that is targeted for young people. 00:02:40.69\00:02:42.71 Maybe kids that are in high school 00:02:42.74\00:02:44.18 and they want to learn how to do, 00:02:44.21\00:02:46.03 teach people how to-- we teach them 00:02:46.06\00:02:49.62 how to give Bible studies to people, 00:02:49.65\00:02:51.39 how to do the evangelistic small groups. 00:02:51.42\00:02:53.19 And then we also have a program called Operation Mission LIFE 00:02:53.22\00:02:56.94 and that starts in the fall. 00:02:56.97\00:02:58.66 And that's for church members that want to take 00:02:58.69\00:03:00.66 a year out to do mission work, 00:03:00.69\00:03:04.52 not only here in the States but also overseas. 00:03:04.55\00:03:06.76 How wonderful is that. 00:03:06.79\00:03:07.82 That I know is a four month program 00:03:07.85\00:03:08.90 you told me before. It is. 00:03:08.93\00:03:10.64 And you actually even train them in the language. 00:03:10.67\00:03:12.64 Yes, we do. That makes then very effective when they go. 00:03:12.67\00:03:15.49 You are part of the Seventh-day Adventist church, 00:03:15.52\00:03:19.22 you're ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist church 00:03:19.25\00:03:21.56 and it is correct that you are operated 00:03:21.59\00:03:23.75 by the Adventist Layman Services and Industries. Is it right? 00:03:23.78\00:03:26.11 That's correct. That's good. 00:03:26.14\00:03:28.08 All right, last time that you were here we talked about 00:03:28.11\00:03:31.86 "The American Church in Crises." 00:03:31.89\00:03:34.76 But what we want to do this time is talk about 00:03:34.79\00:03:37.49 what's going on around the world with the Christian church. 00:03:37.52\00:03:40.76 And I am just going to let-- 00:03:40.79\00:03:42.77 throw the ball to you and let you run with it. 00:03:42.80\00:03:45.44 Well, I am glad that you opened up with 00:03:45.47\00:03:47.27 Matthew 28:18-20 because that really is, you know, 00:03:47.30\00:03:51.39 when you look at the New Testament church 00:03:51.42\00:03:53.65 and you look how it exploded, its exciting that 00:03:53.68\00:03:57.35 they were based upon that one passage. 00:03:57.38\00:03:59.78 That was--went through their mind all the time. 00:03:59.81\00:04:01.73 That's what I take as I read the New Testament. 00:04:01.76\00:04:04.52 They were passionate about people, 00:04:04.55\00:04:06.48 learning about Jesus Christ and teaching them all the things 00:04:06.51\00:04:09.48 that He had taught them. 00:04:09.51\00:04:11.68 Couple of things that we often gloss over 00:04:11.71\00:04:15.13 when we read this and something I want to pull out here. 00:04:15.16\00:04:18.26 And you began with His statement by saying, 00:04:18.29\00:04:21.16 "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth." 00:04:21.19\00:04:24.98 You know, as we-- we've been missionaries. 00:04:25.01\00:04:27.06 We were in Thailand for two years 00:04:27.09\00:04:28.95 and also on the Island of Palau for two years. 00:04:28.98\00:04:31.60 And when you get into difficult, difficult situations 00:04:31.63\00:04:35.07 and you wonder why you are there 00:04:35.10\00:04:36.86 and even situation that are life threatening 00:04:36.89\00:04:40.15 this comes back because He says, 00:04:40.18\00:04:42.84 all authority has been given to me. 00:04:42.87\00:04:44.77 We are not there on my own. 00:04:44.80\00:04:45.87 I am not there on my own strength. 00:04:45.90\00:04:47.92 We are not there thinking that 00:04:47.95\00:04:50.06 what we are gonna do is gonna save these people. 00:04:50.09\00:04:52.19 We say, Jesus, You've said 00:04:52.22\00:04:53.94 You got all authority and You told us to go. 00:04:53.97\00:04:56.15 So that's what we are resting upon. 00:04:56.18\00:04:57.72 Amen. And-- 00:04:57.75\00:04:59.10 So we really appreciate when He preempts to go saying, 00:04:59.13\00:05:02.89 "All authority has given to me in heaven 00:05:02.92\00:05:07.89 and on earth, go therefore." 00:05:07.92\00:05:11.26 It's just, it's charge, we go, yeah, you know. 00:05:11.29\00:05:13.92 Because you know you are going out 00:05:13.95\00:05:15.18 in the authority of Jesus Christ 00:05:15.21\00:05:17.33 and not trying to do this in your own strength. That's right. 00:05:17.36\00:05:20.16 Well, what is going on in the world, you know, 00:05:20.19\00:05:24.09 of course as Adventist the Adventist church 00:05:24.12\00:05:27.73 has a very strong mission program 00:05:27.76\00:05:30.05 and very mission driven but we're talking now just not about 00:05:30.08\00:05:34.69 Adventism but we are talking about Christianity as a whole. 00:05:34.72\00:05:38.96 Adventist Christians are only a portion of the body of Christ, 00:05:38.99\00:05:42.46 there are other Christian churches. 00:05:42.49\00:05:44.05 What's going on around the world 00:05:44.08\00:05:47.13 as far as this great work of filling this great commission? 00:05:47.16\00:05:51.43 Well, we titled it today "Unfinished Business" 00:05:51.46\00:05:54.32 which lets us know that there are 00:05:54.35\00:05:56.04 still large works to be done. 00:05:56.07\00:05:57.84 And so there are some statistics that we found 00:05:57.87\00:06:00.80 in our research that we though we would share, 00:06:00.83\00:06:02.81 that are very interesting. 00:06:02.84\00:06:05.42 Thirty three percent of the world, 00:06:05.45\00:06:07.17 one third of the world claims Christianity. 00:06:07.20\00:06:09.99 That would be catholic, Episcopalian, Adventist, 00:06:10.02\00:06:13.93 you know, they some how claim the name of Christ. 00:06:13.96\00:06:16.39 That means 66% of the world are not Christian. 00:06:16.42\00:06:20.55 Now I am interested to know about that 60%--66% 00:06:20.58\00:06:25.07 because if we are supposed to go and make a disciples 00:06:25.10\00:06:27.41 that's the group we need to be targeting. 00:06:27.44\00:06:29.73 It's very interesting that, oh, I actually need to give you 00:06:29.76\00:06:33.75 the total number, it's about 4.5 billion is that 66%. 00:06:33.78\00:06:37.46 4.5 billion people who don't know Jesus Christ. 00:06:37.49\00:06:40.93 Who have not chosen to follow Him or be His disciple. 00:06:40.96\00:06:43.73 That's correct. Of that group, 00:06:43.76\00:06:46.11 4.5 billion of them are what we call-- 00:06:46.14\00:06:51.07 no, no, no, 4.5 billion is the total group, 00:06:51.10\00:06:53.46 2.5 billion are evangelized, right. 00:06:53.49\00:06:56.97 That means they are in a place that they can hear the gospel. 00:06:57.00\00:07:00.47 So 2.5 of the 4.5 billion are in a situation 00:07:00.50\00:07:04.41 where they can hear it by radio, 00:07:04.44\00:07:05.97 they may have had somebody present them 00:07:06.00\00:07:07.79 with the gospel presentation, we call them the evangelized. 00:07:07.82\00:07:11.00 Two billion are un-evangelized. 00:07:11.03\00:07:14.74 They have no indigenous church of their own. 00:07:14.77\00:07:18.21 They are what we call, unreached people group. 00:07:18.24\00:07:21.30 That have majority of them 00:07:21.33\00:07:23.54 have never even heard the name of Christ. 00:07:23.57\00:07:25.78 And that's astonishing. That is astonishing. 00:07:25.81\00:07:28.20 First of all it's pleased me to know that at least 00:07:28.23\00:07:30.84 one third do claim to be--they go by the name of Christian, 00:07:30.87\00:07:36.09 at least they know the story of the gospel but to think that, 00:07:36.12\00:07:41.66 it's interesting that over half of that 4.5 billion 00:07:41.69\00:07:45.93 have heard it and have not responded. 00:07:45.96\00:07:48.00 So even there, although we've got those 00:07:48.03\00:07:50.16 two billion people that have been unreached, 00:07:50.19\00:07:52.02 the 2.5, something's happened that they haven't seen model, 00:07:52.05\00:07:56.94 something is going on that to hear this great gospel 00:07:56.97\00:08:00.42 and just reject it, that's kind of amazing to me. 00:08:00.45\00:08:03.23 I don't know if it's necessarily rejecting it. 00:08:03.26\00:08:06.53 When we were-- I think some rejected 00:08:06.56\00:08:09.32 but then this story came to my mind. 00:08:09.35\00:08:11.43 When we were working in Thailand, 00:08:11.46\00:08:13.99 we taught in the English language school 00:08:14.02\00:08:16.47 and then in the evenings we provided a free Bible class 00:08:16.50\00:08:19.67 in English for those that wanted to listen to more English. 00:08:19.70\00:08:23.50 And so we would make it a Bible study thing. 00:08:23.53\00:08:27.95 Several students would come, 00:08:27.98\00:08:30.60 one lady after we sang, what is the song? 00:08:30.63\00:08:36.37 It was Jesus loves me. 00:08:36.40\00:08:37.63 Like Jesus loves me, just one of those basic 00:08:37.66\00:08:39.83 Christian songs, she raised her hand 00:08:39.86\00:08:42.55 and she said, "Who is Jesus?" 00:08:42.58\00:08:47.14 And its that idea that even though we have churches there, 00:08:47.17\00:08:51.35 there are many different denominations of church, 00:08:51.38\00:08:54.87 of Christian churches even in that town, 00:08:54.90\00:08:58.00 she lived in that town she didn't know Jesus. 00:08:58.03\00:09:01.85 So even in their whole worldview and everything that 00:09:01.88\00:09:06.30 they live in and they do is not Christian based. 00:09:06.33\00:09:10.27 So if they are not personally connected with someone 00:09:10.30\00:09:14.55 that's Christianity they still have not heard Jesus. 00:09:14.58\00:09:18.68 So it's that point of, even that 2.5 billion 00:09:18.71\00:09:22.42 that say can be reached many of them aren't reached 00:09:22.45\00:09:26.25 if someone is not there to tell them. 00:09:26.28\00:09:27.62 Okay, I misunderstood when you said, 00:09:27.65\00:09:29.05 I thought you said 2.5 billion had been evangelized 00:09:29.08\00:09:31.85 but you are saying that they could be. 00:09:31.88\00:09:33.48 It's not necessarily that they have been reached. 00:09:33.51\00:09:35.38 They are in an area where they are able to hear the gospel. 00:09:35.41\00:09:38.67 Doesn't mean they have heard. That's correct. 00:09:38.70\00:09:40.42 Maybe a Christian radio station broadcast 00:09:40.45\00:09:43.26 in that area it doesn't mean they have-- 00:09:43.29\00:09:44.51 Or 3ABN. That's right. 00:09:44.54\00:09:47.13 They don't have a TV, 00:09:47.16\00:09:48.37 they don't have a radio but there is the ability to. 00:09:48.40\00:09:51.97 But there's two billion that don't. 00:09:52.00\00:09:54.49 That's the group that we are most worry about. 00:09:54.52\00:09:57.48 Two billion that are like this girl who have said, 00:09:57.51\00:10:00.78 who is Jesus, they never heard His name. 00:10:00.81\00:10:03.80 And that's--I think the most disturbing part of the stats 00:10:03.83\00:10:09.07 is that when you look at what the Christian church 00:10:09.10\00:10:11.59 at large is doing, only 2% to 3% 00:10:11.62\00:10:15.74 of all missionaries go to reach that two billion people, 00:10:15.77\00:10:20.14 97% of all missionaries and funding 00:10:20.17\00:10:24.23 goes to the already evangelized group or even 00:10:24.26\00:10:29.50 to the one third that is claiming the name of Christian. 00:10:29.53\00:10:32.89 And you can understand, I mean, 00:10:32.92\00:10:35.45 I am assuming that these two billion are in places 00:10:35.48\00:10:38.68 where it is difficult to evangelize. 00:10:38.71\00:10:42.07 So it's--when you're talking about the 2.5 being 00:10:42.10\00:10:47.25 where they could potentially say, they are sinking. 00:10:47.28\00:10:49.83 Okay, we've got ground work here we just 00:10:49.86\00:10:52.29 magnify or grow the work in that area and they are 00:10:52.32\00:10:55.09 not going out into the more treacherous waters if you will. 00:10:55.12\00:10:59.71 I think we can even bring up like Myanmar 00:10:59.74\00:11:02.58 or they used to call Burma, 00:11:02.61\00:11:04.30 it's a closed country at this time. 00:11:04.33\00:11:08.43 But even though we were not able to go in, 00:11:08.46\00:11:12.21 in traditional ways and we are praying that 00:11:12.24\00:11:14.14 the Lord will somehow open things up. 00:11:14.17\00:11:16.73 We think about in recent past the big tsunami 00:11:16.76\00:11:20.50 that happened in Burma and maybe approximately 00:11:20.53\00:11:23.37 they are gauging 200,000 people dying 00:11:23.40\00:11:27.80 and they've never heard about Jesus. 00:11:27.83\00:11:29.99 So this is--and they typical, the call it the 10/40 Window. 00:11:30.02\00:11:35.89 Right. And I don't know if you want to explain what the-- 00:11:35.92\00:11:37.96 Well, 95% of that two billion live in that 10/40 Window. 00:11:37.99\00:11:41.56 And please explain the 10/40 Window. 00:11:41.59\00:11:43.02 The 10/40 Window it has to do with 00:11:43.05\00:11:44.58 the longitude and latitude line. 00:11:44.61\00:11:46.38 So when you look in a map and you look at 10 degrees 00:11:46.41\00:11:48.85 and you look at 40 degrees, it's a box that runs across 00:11:48.88\00:11:51.57 the top of North Africa and then right through 00:11:51.60\00:11:54.35 the heart of Asia, through India, 00:11:54.38\00:11:56.27 through China, through all of that area. 00:11:56.30\00:11:59.23 And that's the region that not only has the most 00:11:59.26\00:12:02.60 concentration of people but has the most that have 00:12:02.63\00:12:05.83 never heard of the name of Christ. 00:12:05.86\00:12:07.83 So there's the starling statistics that they say 00:12:07.86\00:12:11.45 66,000 people in this area of unreached die every day 00:12:11.48\00:12:17.07 without knowing of our Christ. 00:12:17.10\00:12:18.13 Without knowing of Christ. Oh, my God, that's sad. 00:12:18.16\00:12:20.73 So when you look at all of these statistics 00:12:20.76\00:12:24.27 and it's not something that you know, 00:12:24.30\00:12:26.57 I praise the Lord or ministries like 3ABN 00:12:26.60\00:12:29.81 and this opportunity to, you know, that God has given us, 00:12:29.84\00:12:34.08 He uses this as a tool of evangelism in His hands. 00:12:34.11\00:12:38.39 And we can reach every inhabitant continent 00:12:38.42\00:12:42.98 but that doesn't mean that 00:12:43.01\00:12:44.25 everybody is gonna be able to hear it. 00:12:44.28\00:12:46.43 So how do we, when we have population growth 00:12:46.46\00:12:53.14 that is accelerating, this isn't the problem 00:12:53.17\00:12:56.19 that's going to go away overnight if we keep doing 00:12:56.22\00:12:59.70 business the way we've been doing business. 00:12:59.73\00:13:02.52 So what you are saying I assume today that 00:13:02.55\00:13:04.83 we are going to get to is that there has to be 00:13:04.86\00:13:08.74 a change in what the church is doing. That's correct. 00:13:08.77\00:13:13.29 I love to think of 3ABN and some of the other 00:13:13.32\00:13:16.62 radio broadcasting or so forth as the Air Force. 00:13:16.65\00:13:19.91 You know they are beaming it from on high 00:13:19.94\00:13:22.40 and people are able to pick it up but any military campaign 00:13:22.43\00:13:26.21 will tell you that unless you got ground troops you know, 00:13:26.24\00:13:29.50 you are not really-- you can do some damage 00:13:29.53\00:13:32.30 but you need together, they work together as a nice package. 00:13:32.33\00:13:35.59 So we look at practical-- this is something that 00:13:35.62\00:13:40.47 we dreamed up as we've been overseas and working. 00:13:40.50\00:13:42.95 And you see masses of people that don't know Christ 00:13:42.98\00:13:45.19 and you think all right, let's just stop 00:13:45.22\00:13:47.24 and ask ourselves a question, how practically, 00:13:47.27\00:13:50.72 how practically can you--can missionaries reach these people? 00:13:50.75\00:13:55.17 What are just some of the down to earth, 00:13:55.20\00:13:56.78 most practical things that can happen? 00:13:56.81\00:13:59.71 And we feel like the first solution is for God's people 00:13:59.74\00:14:03.08 to feel released to think and dream of the strategies, 00:14:03.11\00:14:07.42 not to depend upon, its kind of the first things 00:14:07.45\00:14:09.95 if you want to talk about solutions, 00:14:09.98\00:14:11.27 not to depend upon--Oh, oh its another mission offering, 00:14:11.30\00:14:14.65 well, here, here's my $10 00:14:14.68\00:14:16.17 and God bless the missionaries as they go out to do that. 00:14:16.20\00:14:18.79 But even in that, I am going to interject 00:14:18.82\00:14:20.76 because I think you know as Americans we feel like 00:14:20.79\00:14:23.39 we are helping a lot, and we are but I think 00:14:23.42\00:14:28.31 in finances because finance isn't everything, 00:14:28.34\00:14:31.11 it doesn't solve everything. 00:14:31.14\00:14:33.16 But there are interesting stastics in that, 00:14:33.19\00:14:36.42 they said Americans spent more money last year 00:14:36.45\00:14:40.43 on dog food than they did on mission. 00:14:40.46\00:14:44.14 So I think you know, we can do more 00:14:44.17\00:14:46.73 even in the financial side of things to support. 00:14:46.76\00:14:50.35 And we certainly don't want to be little anyone 00:14:50.38\00:14:54.25 who is supporting because there are people, 00:14:54.28\00:14:56.18 we all have different gifts, 00:14:56.21\00:14:57.42 not everyone is called into the mission field. 00:14:57.45\00:15:00.06 And it is so important that we are called to be missionaries, 00:15:00.09\00:15:05.45 maybe not so far away but it is important. 00:15:05.48\00:15:07.98 Some people have great administrative skills 00:15:08.01\00:15:10.33 and God has given them gifts and they are good at laying down 00:15:10.36\00:15:14.18 their money to make-- their life to make money 00:15:14.21\00:15:18.37 to be able to support others who can't go. 00:15:18.40\00:15:20.90 So we are not trying to be little there. 00:15:20.93\00:15:22.65 Not at all, but its not in all in all. 00:15:22.68\00:15:24.57 That was my point. Okay. 00:15:24.60\00:15:25.87 But it's not that we can't say that, 00:15:25.90\00:15:27.82 that's the only way in that, I don't have to sacrifice 00:15:27.85\00:15:30.78 my time or effort in some little way to do that. 00:15:30.81\00:15:33.83 And some people want to give or they want to go 00:15:33.86\00:15:35.97 as full time missionaries, some can't. 00:15:36.00\00:15:38.08 Some have responsibilities here in America, 00:15:38.11\00:15:40.51 they got jobs, they got families they can't do that. 00:15:40.54\00:15:43.27 And so for those we tell, open your wallet and give it 00:15:43.30\00:15:46.08 to those that are wanting to go 00:15:46.11\00:15:47.88 and be able to support those. 00:15:47.91\00:15:49.41 It's a good partnership. 00:15:49.44\00:15:51.22 And now I have to say that anyone who's ever gone 00:15:51.25\00:15:54.08 on a mission trip, I know a number of people who have, 00:15:54.11\00:15:57.58 you know, businessmen with huge businesses 00:15:57.61\00:15:59.34 and they have taken their family on a mission trip 00:15:59.37\00:16:02.18 and they all come back changed and then they come back 00:16:02.21\00:16:04.43 wanting to go on another and another and another. 00:16:04.46\00:16:06.89 And I always tell people if you have teenagers 00:16:06.92\00:16:10.07 and you're having trouble with them send them 00:16:10.10\00:16:11.80 on a mission trip because it's life changing. It really is. 00:16:11.83\00:16:15.68 I am sitting here today because I did that. 00:16:15.71\00:16:17.85 I took a year as a student missionary. 00:16:17.88\00:16:19.84 And I wouldn't be a pastor, I would not be doing this 00:16:19.87\00:16:22.72 if that experience of running from village to village 00:16:22.75\00:16:26.10 in Thailand with people begging us, 00:16:26.13\00:16:28.45 please tell us about this creator God. 00:16:28.48\00:16:30.83 We've never heard of Him, we don't know anything about Him. 00:16:30.86\00:16:34.05 Please stay in our village. 00:16:34.08\00:16:35.35 And to hear that over and over and over again 00:16:35.38\00:16:38.23 it just changed me. 00:16:38.26\00:16:39.61 But I bet you were just always a really good kid, 00:16:39.64\00:16:42.05 never got into any trouble. 00:16:42.08\00:16:43.78 Too bad, no. No. I am wrong? 00:16:43.81\00:16:45.84 No, this was a time that God said, 00:16:45.87\00:16:48.99 get out of, the all the stuff 00:16:49.02\00:16:50.70 you are doing that's not appropriate 00:16:50.73\00:16:53.05 and I am gonna put you in a place where I am gonna 00:16:53.08\00:16:55.15 change you and help you to see the world as I see it. 00:16:55.18\00:16:57.58 And I was-- I am so thankful of that 00:16:57.61\00:16:58.98 even though that was a very difficult experience. 00:16:59.01\00:17:01.06 Sometimes in seeing that someone else's need is greater than 00:17:01.09\00:17:04.72 your own it gets you out of looking at yourself. 00:17:04.75\00:17:08.14 Absolutely. Absolutely. 00:17:08.17\00:17:09.97 Now I had-- a one person who told me 00:17:10.00\00:17:12.06 that their child was so disconnected from 00:17:12.09\00:17:15.38 family and church and connected on the internet. 00:17:15.41\00:17:17.86 I mean, you know, on the mobile phone, 00:17:17.89\00:17:19.39 always text messaging and just kind of had this 00:17:19.42\00:17:22.82 little cocoon life on wire. Yes. Yes. 00:17:22.85\00:17:26.26 I mean, wire but not wireless, whatever, they were totally 00:17:26.29\00:17:31.64 unapproachable until they sent him on a mission trip. 00:17:31.67\00:17:34.35 He came back and all of a sudden he realized 00:17:34.38\00:17:36.69 all of these things were, you know, 00:17:36.72\00:17:39.40 the materialistic things were of very little importance. 00:17:39.43\00:17:42.91 Wow. That is really good. 00:17:42.94\00:17:44.74 We encourage, you know, 00:17:44.77\00:17:47.01 through LIFE we encourage people to dream the dreams. 00:17:47.04\00:17:50.67 You know, let God dream His dreams through you. 00:17:50.70\00:17:54.06 That's the big one is that-- and the point that 00:17:54.09\00:17:57.07 I was getting to is don't just think that 00:17:57.10\00:17:59.32 the church organization is gonna take care of it all. 00:17:59.35\00:18:02.61 We are the church, we are Ecclesia, 00:18:02.64\00:18:04.98 in New Testament it means the called out ones. 00:18:05.01\00:18:07.04 That's the word we use in the New Testament for church. 00:18:07.07\00:18:09.51 That's us, it's not a building it's us. 00:18:09.54\00:18:12.48 And He's calling us. 00:18:12.51\00:18:13.70 He's saying, go therefore in your little way, 00:18:13.73\00:18:16.06 whether you are supporting finically, 00:18:16.09\00:18:18.16 whether you can go yourself, just make it happen 00:18:18.19\00:18:21.24 because He's very serious about making disciple. 00:18:21.27\00:18:23.19 And, you know, Ken, what I've noticed 00:18:23.22\00:18:25.16 when I go out and teach and preach is that 00:18:25.19\00:18:27.76 everyone realizes that there's so many of the things 00:18:27.79\00:18:32.79 that Jesus said would happen before His return are happening. 00:18:32.82\00:18:35.81 You know, the increased earthquakes, 00:18:35.84\00:18:37.23 the increased famines, the trouble, 00:18:37.26\00:18:40.17 the wars but Matthew 24:14 cuts the bottom line 00:18:40.20\00:18:45.65 and there's many people who are anxious for His return 00:18:45.68\00:18:48.42 because they are tired of this world 00:18:48.45\00:18:52.52 and the degradation of the world 00:18:52.55\00:18:54.80 and the downturn of the world. 00:18:54.83\00:18:56.23 But they want to see Jesus return. 00:18:56.26\00:18:58.66 But He made it very perfectly clear, 00:18:58.69\00:19:00.89 it's not until He says, this gospel will be preached 00:19:00.92\00:19:04.19 in all the nations then the end will come. 00:19:04.22\00:19:07.69 So we are still, we praise the Lord 00:19:07.72\00:19:11.15 for the modern technology that we have to reach people 00:19:11.18\00:19:15.94 but we still need to get more foot soldiers 00:19:15.97\00:19:18.68 on the ground as you said. 00:19:18.71\00:19:20.11 So how some of the practicals ways 00:19:20.14\00:19:22.64 that we can get people involved in doing this? 00:19:22.67\00:19:27.41 Well, go ahead and say. I am exploding. 00:19:27.44\00:19:29.29 We've been talking a lot about going overseas 00:19:29.32\00:19:33.34 but I think the point when you said lot of people 00:19:33.37\00:19:36.44 are unable to go overseas and taking it down 00:19:36.47\00:19:39.64 to the very practical, I am here in whatever city 00:19:39.67\00:19:44.04 that I am asking the Lord, what can I do 00:19:44.07\00:19:48.30 I have neighbors all around me. 00:19:48.33\00:19:50.82 I work with people that don't know 00:19:50.85\00:19:53.11 about Jesus, hearding people. 00:19:53.14\00:19:55.26 Everywhere I go, I go to the grocery store 00:19:55.29\00:19:57.97 and I see people that are herding. 00:19:58.00\00:20:00.24 Lord, how can I reach the people 00:20:00.27\00:20:02.66 around me, reach their needs? 00:20:02.69\00:20:04.59 So I think it even comes down just to the-- 00:20:04.62\00:20:07.58 to your everyday life of having 00:20:07.61\00:20:10.90 your everyday life being a mission for. 00:20:10.93\00:20:15.00 I am a missionary what will I live 00:20:15.03\00:20:17.23 and it impacting your community. 00:20:17.26\00:20:19.85 And you know, I have to just say one thing here. 00:20:19.88\00:20:23.17 I believe very strongly that if you pray for divine appointment 00:20:23.20\00:20:27.36 God is going to give you-- now give you one. 00:20:27.39\00:20:29.55 Some of us are-- I am a little bit intimated 00:20:29.58\00:20:32.32 about just violating someone else's personal space. 00:20:32.35\00:20:36.56 But when I pray for divine appointment, 00:20:36.59\00:20:38.71 the Lord always opens up the way. 00:20:38.74\00:20:41.84 And there are times that He just puts the holy bonus on me, 00:20:41.87\00:20:44.81 I will be in line somewhere 00:20:44.84\00:20:46.49 and He will say, Pray for that person. 00:20:46.52\00:20:48.28 And you go up to him and you think, okay, 00:20:48.31\00:20:50.69 Lord, I trust this as you're speaking. 00:20:50.72\00:20:52.57 You go up to him and say, you know, 00:20:52.60\00:20:53.88 I really feel impress the Lord, is there anything that 00:20:53.91\00:20:56.69 I might pray for you about? 00:20:56.72\00:20:58.30 And people will but also as you pray for diving appointments 00:20:58.33\00:21:01.61 I've had people come up to me and just say, 00:21:01.64\00:21:04.76 you know, if you got that missionary minds, 00:21:04.79\00:21:06.88 I've had people come up to me and say 00:21:06.91\00:21:09.47 there's something different about you, 00:21:09.50\00:21:11.13 you tell me about it or I believe you are a Christian, 00:21:11.16\00:21:13.91 can you tell me answer to such and such. 00:21:13.94\00:21:15.83 God opens the way, doesn't' He? Praise the Lord. He does. 00:21:15.86\00:21:18.42 And I think even, you know, 00:21:18.45\00:21:19.95 we think about being a missionary it's always 00:21:19.98\00:21:22.10 right away I've got to tell them about Jesus. 00:21:22.13\00:21:24.58 But I think its starts out with 00:21:24.61\00:21:26.80 a relationship, a friendship first. 00:21:26.83\00:21:29.30 I'll never forget when we were living 00:21:29.33\00:21:32.14 in Palau, it's in Micronesia. 00:21:32.17\00:21:34.41 I was--I always go to the same stores 00:21:34.44\00:21:37.40 and there's this, usually the same checkout lady. 00:21:37.43\00:21:40.40 It was only two stores. 00:21:40.43\00:21:42.40 So I was building relationship with her 00:21:42.43\00:21:43.61 and one day I asked her, what are you plans? 00:21:43.64\00:21:49.33 You know, what-- why do you work here? 00:21:49.36\00:21:51.78 Where do you--you know that kind of thing. 00:21:51.81\00:21:53.60 And she started to open up a little bit and as we had 00:21:53.63\00:21:56.41 our conversation she told me about her dreams 00:21:56.44\00:21:58.94 and what she wanted to do and I encouraged her. 00:21:58.97\00:22:02.45 And I didn't think about that little conversation we had. 00:22:02.48\00:22:05.74 But at the end she said, thank you, 00:22:05.77\00:22:07.90 so much for asking about me. 00:22:07.93\00:22:10.35 I could tell, you know, she goes there every day 00:22:10.38\00:22:13.01 and interacts with people but no one making that next step 00:22:13.04\00:22:17.06 to be really interested in who that person is. 00:22:17.09\00:22:20.52 So it's taking that, observing and taking that next step. 00:22:20.55\00:22:24.31 Oh, and how we all need to be more interested 00:22:24.34\00:22:28.01 in the other person and you know, 00:22:28.04\00:22:30.22 our lives are so frantic that the pace of life 00:22:30.25\00:22:34.85 has accelerated it seems to me so much that sometimes, 00:22:34.88\00:22:39.31 you know, I always try to be mindful 00:22:39.34\00:22:41.08 when I jumping out of the car, not to just put on 00:22:41.11\00:22:44.46 a Christian face but to really have that-- 00:22:44.49\00:22:50.35 be approachable and to be interested 00:22:50.38\00:22:52.19 in other people because it's so easy. 00:22:52.22\00:22:54.18 Sometimes that you got two minutes to run 00:22:54.21\00:22:56.87 into a store and out and it's easy to rush in and rush out 00:22:56.90\00:23:01.02 and ignore somebody whose heart's breaking. 00:23:01.05\00:23:04.31 Jesus wants us to get the job done. 00:23:04.34\00:23:06.39 That's so we come back to after we talked about all this. 00:23:06.42\00:23:09.67 I mean He is passionate about us going whether 00:23:09.70\00:23:13.81 it's your neighborhood, whether it's overseas. 00:23:13.84\00:23:16.42 God has a different call for every one of us. 00:23:16.45\00:23:18.67 Not everybody suppose to get up, 00:23:18.70\00:23:19.96 run overseas but the point is, go make disciples. 00:23:19.99\00:23:25.09 I want to wrap up with something that I feel 00:23:25.12\00:23:28.98 is very significant from the Old Testament to us today. 00:23:29.01\00:23:33.33 When the Israelites were asked to go conquer Canaan 00:23:33.36\00:23:36.39 in Joshua 1:3, Jesus, which we believe 00:23:36.42\00:23:43.53 the Son of God was the one that came and talk to Joshua 00:23:43.56\00:23:46.72 and commission him Himself, you know, before. 00:23:46.75\00:23:50.29 And it says in verse 3, "Every place that 00:23:50.32\00:23:52.66 the sole of your foot shall tread upon, 00:23:52.69\00:23:54.99 I have given you as I said to Moses." 00:23:55.02\00:23:58.37 Amen. All right. 00:23:58.40\00:23:59.43 He gave him unrestricted, 00:23:59.46\00:24:00.75 you go into Canaan, you get this job done. 00:24:00.78\00:24:03.33 You conquer the land. 00:24:03.36\00:24:04.73 And we also know that from this that every place 00:24:04.76\00:24:07.55 that the sole of your foot, that means if you don't go 00:24:07.58\00:24:10.74 all the way it's not given to you. 00:24:10.77\00:24:12.52 It's only as your advancing, okay. 00:24:12.55\00:24:14.86 That's good. Now it's perfect because 00:24:14.89\00:24:16.68 then you find in Judges Chapter 1, 00:24:16.71\00:24:18.90 I have a heading in Judges 1:27. 00:24:18.93\00:24:22.19 And my heading above it says, 00:24:22.22\00:24:23.61 "Incomplete conquest of the land." Amen. 00:24:23.64\00:24:26.77 And then it goes on to tell how Manasseh 00:24:26.80\00:24:28.98 did not drive out the inhabitance. 00:24:29.01\00:24:30.72 In verse 29, Ephraim didn't drive out 00:24:30.75\00:24:33.05 nor did Zebulun, verse 30. 00:24:33.08\00:24:34.58 verse 31, Asher didn't drive them out. 00:24:34.61\00:24:36.47 Verse 32, Naphtali, it goes down telling 00:24:36.50\00:24:38.69 the tribes didn't do what God had asked then to do. 00:24:38.72\00:24:42.74 Now I want to read you something. 00:24:42.77\00:24:44.26 This is from Testimonies from a Christian writer, Ellen White. 00:24:44.29\00:24:47.91 She said, "When the Israelites entered Canaan, 00:24:47.94\00:24:51.10 they did not fulfill God's purpose 00:24:51.13\00:24:52.96 by taking possession of the whole land. 00:24:52.99\00:24:55.62 After making a partial conquest, 00:24:55.65\00:24:58.31 they settled down to enjoy the fruit of their victories. 00:24:58.34\00:25:01.97 In their unbelief and love of ease, 00:25:02.00\00:25:04.74 they congregated in the portions already conquered 00:25:04.77\00:25:08.18 instead of pushing forward to occupy new territory. 00:25:08.21\00:25:12.21 Thus they began to depart from God. 00:25:12.24\00:25:14.71 By their failure to carry out His purpose, 00:25:14.74\00:25:17.24 they made it impossible for Him 00:25:17.27\00:25:18.97 to fulfill to them His promise of blessing." 00:25:19.00\00:25:21.77 But then she says this 00:25:21.80\00:25:23.33 "Is not the church of today doing the same thing? 00:25:23.36\00:25:27.43 With the whole world before them in need of the gospel, 00:25:27.46\00:25:30.35 professed Christians congregate where they 00:25:30.38\00:25:32.28 themselves can enjoy gospel privileges. 00:25:32.31\00:25:34.78 They do not feel the necessity of occupying new territory, 00:25:34.81\00:25:37.48 carrying the message of salvation to the regions beyond. 00:25:37.51\00:25:41.18 They refuse to fulfill Christ's commission, 00:25:41.21\00:25:43.73 Go into all the world." 00:25:43.76\00:25:45.18 That is so true and such a sad state of affairs 00:25:45.21\00:25:48.90 but often you'll go into a church where you find 00:25:48.93\00:25:52.55 it has had so little growth and they are just 00:25:52.58\00:25:55.68 quite content to stay like they are. 00:25:55.71\00:25:59.94 And if a church isn't growing it's dying. 00:25:59.97\00:26:02.03 You know, it's just nothing more really than a country club, 00:26:02.06\00:26:05.09 an association, a group of fellowship. 00:26:05.12\00:26:08.74 So it's such an important thing to do and I thank you, 00:26:08.77\00:26:12.80 that you've come to make us aware of this 00:26:12.83\00:26:15.80 and to kind of stir the waters up a little bit 00:26:15.83\00:26:18.78 and make each one of us need to pray to become involved. 00:26:18.81\00:26:23.94 Now were you in missionary work before 00:26:23.97\00:26:27.01 you met your husband Ken, Julie, or? 00:26:27.04\00:26:29.73 No, I-- So you met and went into mission. 00:26:29.76\00:26:32.52 But I married her because she told me when we met, 00:26:32.55\00:26:34.48 she want to be a missionary. 00:26:34.51\00:26:35.63 So I said, oh, that's it. All right. 00:26:35.66\00:26:37.77 That's not the only reason you married her. 00:26:37.80\00:26:39.19 Oh no. No. But it was great. 00:26:39.22\00:26:42.76 Thank you so much for being here today, Julie and Ken. 00:26:42.79\00:26:46.54 Thanks. And you will come back. 00:26:46.57\00:26:48.27 Yes. All right. 00:26:48.30\00:26:49.81 You know for those of you at home what we were talking about 00:26:49.84\00:26:53.29 today is the condition of the world 00:26:53.32\00:26:56.93 and the unfinished business, God's unfinished business. 00:26:56.96\00:27:01.02 And He chooses to do it through us. 00:27:01.05\00:27:03.56 So the Lord is calling each and every one of us. 00:27:03.59\00:27:06.55 And if only, it doesn't matter 00:27:06.58\00:27:07.72 if you live in the Unites States where only 17% are actually 00:27:07.75\00:27:11.47 attending church or if you live in England 00:27:11.50\00:27:15.16 or probably even fewer it doesn't matter 00:27:15.19\00:27:18.57 where you live around the world. 00:27:18.60\00:27:20.53 God wants you to share the good news, to be a light. 00:27:20.56\00:27:25.94 Don't hide your light under a bush. 00:27:25.97\00:27:28.40 If you have personal relationship with Jesus 00:27:28.43\00:27:31.51 and you know Him, go out and share Him today. 00:27:31.54\00:27:36.01 Now may the grace of our Lord Jesus, 00:27:36.04\00:27:39.16 the fellowship of the Holy Spirit and the love of God 00:27:39.19\00:27:43.21 be with you today and always. 00:27:43.24\00:27:45.89 And may you go out in all authority 00:27:45.92\00:27:49.22 and tell someone what Jesus has done for you. 00:27:49.25\00:27:52.39