Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn
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and welcome again
to Issues and Answers.
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No matter where you
are around the world
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we're so glad
that you're tuning in
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and I know
you're going to be glad
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that you caught this
program because today
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we are going to be
talking about salvation.
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The simplicity of salvation.
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The Bible says--
actually these are Jesus words
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that are recorded in
the Bible and John 3:16.
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He said, "For God
so loved the world
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that He gave his
only begotten Son,
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that whosoever would believe
in him should not perish,
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but have everlasting life."
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You know, that is
such a great promise
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and sometimes we have a
tendency to believe it up here
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but we can't
believe it down here.
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God wants all men to be saved
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and He wants us to learn to
turn to Him in simple trust.
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And here today to
share a lifetime of learning,
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a lifetime of experience with us
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is Pastor Philip
Dunham from Salem, Oregon.
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Philip, we're so
glad and I should call you
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Pastor Dunham out of respect.
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That's all right.
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Well, we're just so glad
that you have joined us today.
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You were a conference
pastor for many years.
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You have been
retired for 18 years. Yes.
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That's retired as
a fulltime employee
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of the Seventh-day
Adventist Conference
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but tell me you
were still fully employed
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by the Lord, are you not?
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Well, Shelley, in these 18 years
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I have done 14
interim pastorates.
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I have written two books
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and countless
numbers of seminars
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and camp meetings and
other speaking appointments.
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Well, we're
thrilled that you're here.
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And I want to get to a
very personal question first.
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You have
written two books? Yeah.
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The first was,
"Blinded by the Light." Yeah.
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The second was
"Sure Salvation." Yeah.
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What was it in your
heart or in your mind
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that got you to the point--
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when did you recognize
the simplicity of salvation,
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the assurance of
salvation that you could have.
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Where you very young
and have you preached
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this all your life
or was this something
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that as you grew older
and matured in the Lord
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you recognized it's a whole lot
simpler than what you thought?
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Shelley, this is
hard for me to say
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because it was about
halfway through my ministry.
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I talked about Jesus,
I lead people to Jesus,
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I shared righteousness by faith.
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But about halfway
through my ministry
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the Lord really helped me
to understand the simplicity,
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the beauty of salvation.
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So that it just fueled me
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and it's been over
flowing me ever since.
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As soon as I met
you Pastor Dunham
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I knew that you had
assurance of salvation
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and peace in you heart.
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Before, I even
knew who were because,
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it just radiates from your face.
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When you learn that
halfway through your ministry
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and its nothing to be ashamed
of because I've met pastors
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who have said it wasn't
toward the end of their ministry
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that they really recognize
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that because
sometimes theologians
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can make this is
a complicated topic.
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Yes. But when you learn that
it was a life changing for you?
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It was life changing, Shelley.
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Do you know
that when I went home
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from a week long
seminar and I was preaching
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to my congregation
of the thousand people--
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we had two different
services on the Sabbath morning
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and people began to say, "
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Pastor I don't know
what had happened to you?
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But keep it up." Glory to God.
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And my wife said
"Honey I would like to find
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what you've
found." Oh, wonderful.
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And you know really
it's-- it could have been
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I would like to
find who you found. Amen.
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I believe I knew Jesus before,
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I believe I was converted
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but somehow there
is kind of epiphany
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and you would see something
more clearly and I did.
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And it's blessed
my heart ever since.
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And that's one of the reasons
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I wrote the book
"Sure Salvation."
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Because, when I get blessed
I like to pass the blessing.
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Amen. To be a
channel of blessing.
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Yes. Amen.
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Why is it that
sometimes theologians
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can make it seems so convoluted.
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I grew up Pastor Philip,
not knowing the true gospel.
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I had a love
affair with Jesus Christ.
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But the denomination
in which I was reared
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thought that you had to be
perfect to be loved by God,
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the Father and so I
was so fearful of the Lord
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God the Father it
took me nearly 40 years
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to get to that point where
I was set free to understand.
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Sometime Shelley,
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theologians have a
way of confusing us.
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And let me illustrate that.
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"Or do you really
have a grasp of soteriology
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and stereological terminology
such as justification,
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sanctification,
regeneration, forensic
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righteousness,
extrinsic righteousness
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predestination, and election?
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Schleiermacher
elects all men subjectively,
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Lutherans all men objectively,
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Armenians all
believers and Augustinians
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all foreknown is God own.
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Regarding the
application of redemption,
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Martineau says that simultaneity
doesn't exclude duration
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since each cause has duration
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and each effect
also has duration.
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Right?" What
did you just saying?
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I don't understand the
word of what you just said.
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Isn't it just amazing? Yeah.
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Now that's a
quote from someone's--
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That's a quote from
some theological jargon.
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Some theological gobbledygook.
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That's a good
word. About salvation.
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And then Shelley,
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there is the text that
you quoted at the beginning.
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John 3:16. Yes.
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"For God so loved the world,
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that he gave his
only begotten Son,
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that whosoever believes in him
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should not perish, but
have everlasting life."
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And I think I can
relate to that text
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better than the
theological musings.
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And it gets you know--
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as they pontificate
on all of these things--
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That's the word.
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Sometime the sophistries
that gets so sophisticated
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and it makes people look
important and intelligent. Yes.
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But they can loose the
true meaning of the gospel.
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Contrast that for us then
if how would you present it
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if you if I were not a Christian
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and you were trying to tell me
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how I could be saved
what would you say to me?
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Well, I want to share
that a little more in detail
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but I wanted to mention too
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that one pastor had
600 outlines on John 3:16.
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Oh, mercy. Can you imagine that.
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Mercy. You speak 600
outlines, sermons on John 3:16
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and you know what he said.
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If all the bile were destroyed
expect John 3:16 anyone,
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anywhere could be saved
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by believing this of
quoted and cherished verse.
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Amen. Isn't that interesting?
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Yes. And then one
inspired writer said this.
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For the terms of
salvation are here
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laid out indistinct lines
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if one had no
other text in the Bible
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this alone would be
a guide for the soul.
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Amen. Isn't that
beautiful and simple?
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In other words
if you had a Bible
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and it only had
two covers and one page
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and on the one
page one text John 3:16
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that would be
enough for salvation.
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Absolutely. I can
relate to that, Shelley.
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Absolutely. Now how would
you then tell me if you met me?
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Let's say that you and I
were on airplane together
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and I found out
that you're a pastor
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and I asked you
Pastor Phil, I don't--
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if I told you I don't know
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that I really
believe in salvation.
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I believe there is a God
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but I don't know that I'm saved.
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What would you say to me?
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You know, what I have used
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in the past
this little pamphlet.
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Okay. It's out of print
now but you can get them
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from different places
and in Christian bookstores
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it would be called the
'Four Spiritual Loves.'
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All right. But another
gentleman and I have made this
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and we have printed a
half a million copies of these
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and I would have
shared the four simple steps
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that are in the pamphlet.
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God loves you and He has a
special plan for your life.
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All of us are
separated from God by sin.
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Christ has bridged the
gap between man and God
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and then we must receive
Christ as a personal Savior.
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Amen. So those are the steps
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and then I would invite
a person to accept Christ.
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And in this little
pamphlet there was a place
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that mentioned two-hearts.
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And one was a simple heart
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and one was the
Christ filled heart.
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And I would ask the person
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which heart do you
think represents your life.
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Whose is in
control is what you say?
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Whose is in control?
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Who is on the
throne of your heart?
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Who is in the
throne of your heart?
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Amen. Absolutely yes.
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And so if a person shows
then there was a simple prayer
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that they could pray to ask
Christ to come into their life.
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So that's bottom-line salvation.
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That's a bottom-line salvation.
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And do you know there is writer
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that I appreciate
so much in the book
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that I appreciate so much
it's called, Desire of Ages.
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And it says "It is when Christ
is received as a personal Savior
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that salvation
comes to the soul."
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One sentence,
"When Christ is received
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as a personal Savior
salvation comes to the soul."
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And that involves
in it the recognition
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of needing a Savior doesn't it?
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Oh, yes.
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Because that kind of brings
in that repentance idea that--
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Conviction.
Conviction of your sin.
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Yes. And then
when you understand
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that you need a Savior
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and you just
said reach out to Him.
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Say Lord, I need you.
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I can't change
myself so help me.
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That's when He comes in.
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And He will hear
that cry. I know.
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And never failing like He
will hear that request. Amen.
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You know, when
we are talking about
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the simplicity of salvation
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I remember the
thief on the cross. Yes.
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And do you know that is such--
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I'm so glad God
put that in His word
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because we're
looking in Luke 23:42, 43
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about a dying
thief and a dying Savior.
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And this really underscores
the simplicity of salvation.
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Because, do you know
that there was a 22 word
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exchange between the
thief and the Savior.
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Isn't that amazing?
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Depending on which
translation you have.
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Lord, remember me when
You come in Your kingdom."
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And He told him "I
want you to tell you today
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you're gonna be
with me in my kingdom."
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22 words, you know
not 40 Bible studies.
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Not long weeks of preparation.
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And what did the thief have?
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He had salvation.
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Well, how can you
go from a perfect flop
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to a perfect man, a perfect mess
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to just plain
perfect in ten seconds?
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Accepting the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Accepting the Lord Jesus
Christ and it's beautiful.
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So he went from ranch to redeem.
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From lost to
saved, in that short time.
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Well, I bet you can really
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if you have got
time to do seminars
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and camp meetings I bet
you can preach this, can't you?
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This is message that preaches.
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There was a
preacher who would say
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about a certain
text, that preached.
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Yeah, amen. And
this would preach.
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And that's what when Jesus said
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that we were to go
out and make disciples.
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You know, He was
saying, go teach them the things
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that I've told you but it begins
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with the good news
of the gospel. Amen.
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That God doesn't expect you
to change things on your own.
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He knows how
powerless you are over sin
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but He sent His
Son Jesus Christ.
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That you, He that Jesus might
bright their bondage of sin
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and that you can come
in to the family of God
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and learn to be dependent upon
God to do these things in you.
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Yes. Isn't that beautiful?
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Do you know Shelley,
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I have been so impressed
as I've studied the word.
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You know,
people talk about well,
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what about battle in the merge?
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What about climbing
the spiritual ladder?
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What about living up to
all the light that we have?
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Living up to all the light.
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What about sinless
perfection sanctifying ourselves
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and reaching the goal of
godliness and godlikeness?
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Do you know, let me share
something right now with you.
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"Salvation is a gift"
Ephesians 2:8. Exactly.
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"Christ himself
is a gift." Exactly.
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2 Corinthians 9:15
"Justification is a gift."
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Exactly. Romans 5
"Sanctification is a gift."
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1 Corinthians 1:30
"Repentance is a gift."
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Is a gift. Acts 4:30.
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"Faith is a gift." Amen.
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Romans 12 "The Holy Spirit
is a gift and grace is a gift.
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And forgiveness
is a gift." Amen.
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Acts 5:31 "Victory
over sin is a gift.
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A new heart is a gift."
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I've a text for
everyone of these. I know.
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"Righteousness is a gift
and eternal life is a gift."
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And it's not too
hard to accept a gift.
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No, you know what?
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I think sometimes I preached
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that sermon
that you just talked.
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I teach that when I go out.
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And just
recently I was somewhere
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and as I was
teaching these things
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I had a very
influential businessman
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who came up to me afterward
and you know what he said.
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What? He said,
that is too humbling
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to believe that's all true,
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that all I have to do
is sit back and receive.
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And I--the Lord put a
holy boldness in my heart.
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Normally, I'm pretty sensitive
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and I just looked
at him and I have said,
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what was Lucifer's sin?
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What was original sin?
And I said it was pride.
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It was when he let
this come up in him
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that he thought that
he could be like God.
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And I said if you,
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if you're proud
God's going to humble you.
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But if you will humble
yourself God will exalt you.
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And it's all about learning
to receive from the Lord.
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Amen. That's
what it's all about.
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Yes. Shelley, I was studying
with a Buddhist young lady
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in Kauai when we lived there.
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We had to live in Kauai.
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Yeah, bless your heart
that's tough assignment.
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And I didn't
follow the normal course
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of studies that I share.
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The first seven studies
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that I studied with
them was about Jesus. Amen.
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And when I finished
those I said Pauline,
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what does this
sound like to you.
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What do you think
about Jesus at this point?
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And she said it's
too good to be true.
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Yes. And I said I know
what it is but it's true.
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Amen. Yes.
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And, you know, you known it
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by personally experiences well,
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because like you
it took me many years
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and I had been part
time ministry for many years
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and especially on
the sanctification part.
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Because, I was working--
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I use to get hung
up on Philippians 2:12
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where there is he said,
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"Work out your own salvation
with fear and trembling."
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Oh, yes. And I wouldn't look
at Philippians 2:13 it said,
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it was not in your own strength
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but for its God who
works in you to will
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and to act
according to His good purpose.
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And what happened to
me is that I was so busy
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trying to sanctify myself
until this might interest you.
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I don't know if you know this
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but when the Lord took me
on a study of the temple--
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the sanctuary and when
the Lord taught me the truth
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about the Ten Commandments
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that they were
nailed to the cross.
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And I started
studying on the Sabbath.
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It was my first
Sabbath that I celebrated.
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That I knew
freedom from performance
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that I was totally could
receive the grace of God,
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the gift of sanctification.
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Because He says in Exodus 31:13,
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that the Sabbath
is the sign for us
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to remember that its
God who is sanctifying us.
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Amen. I love that.
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And the New Testament says
that Jesus is sanctifying us,
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he says the word sanctifies us
the Holy Spirit sanctifies us.
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So all God's asking
of us is to cooperate.
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Amen. To believe,
to receive, to abide.
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Amen. And what you--
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That's beautiful
what you've just shared
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because what you found was rest.
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Freedom. And that's
what the Sabbath is about.
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Yes. And not just physical rest
but resting in Jesus Christ.
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For it is God who works in you
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to willing to do
of his good pleasure.
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Amen. Now you
have a certain parable
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that you've said that
you'd like to share with us.
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Yes. That really tells us about
the simplicity of salvation.
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Yes. It is so
simple but let me share it.
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Yes. "In the city of
Chicago one cold dark night
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a blizzard was setting in
and little boy was selling
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newspapers on the corner,
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as the people were
going in and out of the cold.
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And the little boy was so called
he couldn't sell many papers.
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And he walked up to a
policemen and he said,
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'Mister, you
wouldn't happen to know
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where a poor boy
could find a warm place
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to sleep tonight would you?
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You see, I sleep in a box
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up around the
corner and down the alley
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and its awful cold
in there, to night.
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Sure would be nice to
have a warm place to stay.'
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And the policeman
looked down at the little boy
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and he said 'You
go down the street
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to that big white house
and you knock on the door.
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And when they come out the door
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you just say John 3:16
and they will let you in.'
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So he did, he
walked up the steps,
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he knocked on the
door and a lady answered
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and he looked up
and said, 'John 3:16.'
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And lady said,
'Come on in, Son.'
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She took him in sat him
down and split bottom rocker
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in front of a great big old
fire place and she went off.
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And the boy sat
there for a little bit
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and he thought to himself.
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John 3:16. I
don't understand it,
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but it sure makes a
cold boy warm." Amen.
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"And later she came back
and asked him are you hungry?
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And he said,
'Well, just a little.
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I haven't eaten
in a couple of days
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and I guess I could
stand a little bit of food.'
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Lady took him in the
kitchen and sat him down
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to a table full
of wonderful food.
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And he ate and he ate
until he couldn't eat any more.
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And then he thought
to himself 'John 3:16...
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Boy, I sure don't understand it,
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but it sure makes
a hungry boy full.'
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And she took him
upstairs to a bathroom
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to a huge bathtub
filled with warm water
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and sat there and
soaked for a while.
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And as he soaked,
he thought to himself,
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'John 3:16... I
don't understand it,
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but it sure makes
a dirty boy clean.
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And the lady
came in and got him,
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and took him to a room
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and tucked him into
a big old feather bed,
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pulled the covers
up around his neck,
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kissed him goodnight
and turned out the lights.
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And as he lay in darkness
and looked out the window
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at the snow coming down on that
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cold night he
thought to himself,
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'John 3:16... I
don't understand it,
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but it sure makes
a tired boy rested.'
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And the next morning
the lady came back up
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and took him down again to that
same big table full of food.
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After he ate, she took him back
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to that same big
old split bottom rocker
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in front of the fireplace
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and picked up a big old Bible
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and she sat down in front of him
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and looked into his young face.
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'Do you understand John
3:16,' she asked gently?
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He replied, 'No, Ma'am, I don't.
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The first time I ever
heard it was last night
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when the policeman
told me to say it.'
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And she opened the
Bible to John 3:16,
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and began to
explain to him about Jesus.
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Right there in front
of that big old fireplace,
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he gave his heart
and his life to Jesus.
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And he sat there
and thought, 'John 3:16.
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I don't understand it,
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but it sure makes a
lost boy feel safe.'
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Oh how precious. Isn't
that a neat little story?
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How precious and how true
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spiritually that
applies just perfectly.
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Yes. You know that's wonderful.
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Can you share some
also I know that our viewers
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would love to may be
grab a pen and a paper
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and let's look at
some scripture promises.
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Some assurance of salvation
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or the simplicity
of salvation for--
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from the Bible for our viewers.
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There so many texts-- Yes.
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And in this
book 'Sure Salvation'
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I have included
some and called them
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extreme assurances and
promises and I love it.
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And I love this and Isaiah 61
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and we don't usually think
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and terms of the Old Testament
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as beautiful
things on righteousness
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and salvation but listen.
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There is a lot of it.
Oh, there is a lot of it.
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Yes there is. "I will
greatly rejoice in the Lord,
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my soul shall be
joyful in my God,
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for he has clothed me
with the garments of salvation,
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he has covered me with
the robe of righteousness."
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Notice Shelley,
he God has cloth me
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with the garments of salvation.
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He has covered me with
the robe of righteousness.
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Amen. "As a bridegroom
decks himself with ornaments,
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and as a bride adorns
herself with her jewels."
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I love it. God
cloths us with salvation.
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Some of us are so busy
trying to cloth ourself
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and we're missing the point
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because He has told
those in Isaiah 64:6
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that you righteousness is about
filthy rags before the Lord.
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Yes. It's got to be that
we come to Him and let Him
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cloth it with Christ
robe of righteousness.
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Yes. You know we tried
to make ourselves holy.
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Impossible. It's impossible.
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There is only one
being in the universe
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that can make
anything or anyone holy.
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And that's God.
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And you know I believe Philip,
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isn't it Hebrew
12:14 regards says,
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"Be holy as I'm holy."
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It is a commandment but
He also tells us everywhere
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that anything He commands
of us He is gonna do for us.
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Right. And the only way that--
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I mean there's so many
promises on sanctification
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that show us
it's all God's work.
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He tells us to make it
efforts as he empowers us.
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We need to-- I
mean He can't sanctifies
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if we never pick up the book.
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Right. We do make an effort
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but the actual work is
something that God doe sin us.
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Amen. "For it is
God who works in you
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to will and to do
for His good pleasure."
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Exactly. I'm so thankful.
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He is the one that
does the work. Amen.
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It's not my sweat
and blood Shelley,
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that I'm trusting in.
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It's His bloody
sweat that I'm trusting.
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That's really
good. That's very vivid.
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Okay share another
couple of promises.
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Yes. I love this.
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John 5:24 "Most
assuredly, I say to you,
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he who hears My
word and believes in Him
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who sent Me has
everlasting life."
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Amen. So what is?
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That means right
here in here now.
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That's it right here now. Right.
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"And shall not
come into judgment,
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but has passed
from death into life."
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Praise the Lord. I love
to read things like that.
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Yeah, always want
to keep a balance.
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We're going to have
you come back Pastor Phil,
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and do some more programs.
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I just don't want to leave
any viewer today with the idea
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that we're talking
about once saved always saved.
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We're talking about
the simplicity of salvation
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but you don't believe in
once saved always save, do you?
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No I don't. Why not.
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I find that it is
not taught in the Bible.
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And I could share
examples of that but no
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"Not once saved, always saved."
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So God never
takes a choice from us.
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There is that opportunity
that you can't apostasies,
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divorce yourself from the Lord.
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That's pretty stupid to think
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but we have actually seen
examples of that have we not.
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Yes. And there are two extremes,
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eternal security on the one hand
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and infernal
insecurity of the other hand.
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And those are polar opposites.
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They are and
they're both unbiblical.
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Totally. Yes.
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So we are going
to have you come back
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and I'm so glad
that you've agreed
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and next time
we're gonna actually
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talk about
assurance of salvation.
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It's simple but you
can also have assurance.
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Thank you so much for
being here, Pastor Phil.
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You're welcome.
It's been a pleasure.
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For those of you at
home don't forget John 3:16,
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"For God so
loved you that he gave
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his only begotten Son.
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That if you will believe in Him,
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that you will not perish,
but have everlasting life."
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Now may the grace of
our Lord Jesus Christ,
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the love of the Father
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and the
fellowship of the Holy Spirit
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be with you today and always.
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Thank you.
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