Hello I'm Shelly Quinn
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and welcome again
to Issues and Answers.
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You know, we had
such a good time last week
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talking about how
to witness to someone
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that might be affluent
that doesn't know the Lord
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but we don't
want to leave this--
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our special guest
is quite the extrovert
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and we won't
leave the impression
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that you got to be extrovert
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and that you only witnessing
to the affluent of the world
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but that we want to
know that there everybody
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has the opportunity to witness.
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Let me introduce
again our special guest
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and that's Herb Larsen,
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a--an international
businessman from Canada.
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That's right. And
the president of--
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Imagine Life.
Imagine Life media.
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Imagine Life Media,
which is a lay ministry
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and God has really
blessed you in your life
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with quite a bit of
success and He is also now
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because He is
giving you a testimony.
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He's opened the
doors for you to go around
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and share with
people around the world.
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I want to share a
scripture, the kind of--
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since we are gonna
go to that direction
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where we are talking
about how to share with others
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who may not be very influential
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and may be you
are not the extrovert.
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You may be member of the
PTA and you may be very bashful.
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But you know, here is
what Jesus said in Matthew 25.
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He said, "I was
hungry and you gave me food,
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I was thirsty and you
gave me something to drink,
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I was a stranger and
you brought me together
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with yourselves and
welcomed and lodged me,
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as naked and you clothed me,
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I was sick and you visited me
with help and ministering care,
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I was in prison and
you came to see me".
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And it goes on
in verse 40 to say,
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well, they said when do
we do these things to Lord?
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He said, as many of you done
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any time you have done
this to one or the least
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then you have done it to me.
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So, when someone is hungry
they can be spiritually hungry
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and we can
spiritually feed them.
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But when He was talking about,
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you visited me when I was sick.
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You know, I was
thinking that for a person
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that is may be not very outgoing
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and sometimes people can
appear outgoing but then,
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you know, I'll be honest
the one on one witnessing
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is a little more
difficult for me with a stranger
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than it is to get up
and talk to 15,000 people
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which I have done,
that didn't bother me.
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Because you get in on that--
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I mean when I am not
talking in front 15,000 people
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I am relying on the Holy Spirit
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but I'm there to
teach, to give a message.
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One on one if
someone just came up to me
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and want to start teaching me.
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I might be rejecting them a
little so I am expecting that.
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But let's say, since I'm a
little more bashful in that
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I can't do something like
may be a bake a loaf of bread
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or make some homemade
soup and take it to my neighbor
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and just start that
friendship which is a way of,
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if they say why did
you do this I can say,
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well because Lord just
put it in my heart to do.
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Tell us your
experience, how did people
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who are not less much an
extrovert as you are Herb.
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How did they get
to where they can
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what can they do to
witness to bash their influence?
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Well, when I started
sharing Christ 15 years ago,
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it's really--I mean I
wanted to share Christ
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much earlier than
that. Because you were a PK.
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Yeah I'm a preacher's
kid. I grew up going to church.
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But you didn't have that
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one on one personal
relationship with the lord?
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I didn't, I mean and
yet I still have the brain
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desired to do something for God.
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See that was always there.
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I--I had the
desire to do it but,
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you know, and I pray that
prayer that I was told to pray.
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God sent someone my
way today, then work.
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You know, I could never
figure that all for years.
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I prayed that I
wouldn't say a thousand times
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but I should had
prayed it enough say send
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because I wanted
to be part of that
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but nothing ever happened
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and it was only
till I found Jesus.
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Spend a serious amount of time
seeking Him as the Bible says,
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spend an hour or a day at
least digging to the Bible
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praying pouring
my guts out to Him.
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When I did that my
life changed. Amen.
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And then all the
opportunities changed
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and now I don't pray any more
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since I am on my way
to be honest sometime
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I say can I have this
flight by myself, I beat.
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You know what I
mean. Yeah, I know.
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But the thing is
so, and, you know,
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sometimes God will
give me an empty seat,
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that's pretty nice though
when you are really tired out.
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But the point is this
my witnessing did start
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like last week we
were talking about,
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yeah, you know, a good
junk of my influence right now
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in terms of witnessing is with
the highly affluent society.
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But it didn't start there.
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It started that
really one of the first times
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I really found
that God needed my story
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more than He needed
what I knew about the Bible
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because that's what
really witnessing is all about.
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What I have experienced?
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And if you simply share that,
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the Holy Spirit takes
that and says I am in.
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The greatest sermon ever told
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is the one about
what the Lord did for you.
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Absolutely, there
is nothing better,
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there is nothing more powerful
because like I said last week
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nobody really wants
to know what you know,
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they want to know what you have.
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And when you
explain what you have--
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why do people
buy People magazines
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or enquire whatever these things
are these rags they call them.
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They want to--they are
not just interested in details
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they want to get into
the life of these people.
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They want to live
their life with them.
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They want to
know what they have,
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you know, like money and
power and that kind of stuff.
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So people have this
natural tendency to want that.
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So-- so God uses that.
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Our story is the
part that interest people.
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What do you have?
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So--so we jump in
there and that's we do.
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We start sharing that.
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Now where I started
witnessing honestly,
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there's a forklift
driver at a warehouse
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that I have in Washington
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a bunch of businessman we have,
you know group of warehouses
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across the
boarder from where I live.
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And anyway, so there
is a forklift driver.
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Well, you know, I mean he
is just a "forklift driver"
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that's what the societal
business guys would say.
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But I always
visited with the guy
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because that's my
nature and everything else
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and they were friend of mine.
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I never did bring
up a testimony on for--
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because at that
point I really wasn't,
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you know, pushed by
the Spirit to do I guess
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or may be I just wasn't ready.
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Anyways, one day he tells
me what a hopeless life he has.
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Just that go in no where a life,
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I never dreamed
that I'll be stuck
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in a position like
this, blah-blah-blah.
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He tells me all
the stuff and I said,
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and I am just
burning up to share
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what I have just got
through experiencing with Jesus
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finally in my
life at 38 years old.
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And so I am just
like my heart is pounding,
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you know, I am sweating and,
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you know, like my
head feels a bit light
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because I am getting
ready to talk to this guy.
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That's how bad it was for
me, I can be really honest.
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And so I just
said well, you know,
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I don't know about you but
like I'm a Christian, you know,
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and I said and more recently
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I have gone to
church my whole life
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and more recently I
decided to give God a real shot.
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I'm thinking
all this is probably
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sounding crazing, you know.
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I just shared
what happened to me.
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And he just starts
to cry and he says,
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you know, at one
time I knew Jesus.
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And he talked how
alcohol got in the way
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and he became an alcoholic
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and he actually
went to jail for a while
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and he is going back
to his home in Alaska
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and soon mass wasting
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so he couldn't
cross the Canadian boarder
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and he couldn't afford
to flyover Canada back home.
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That's where he is stuck.
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So, anyways two
weeks later I came in there
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and all of a sudden,
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he runs out of
the little place there
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and he bangs on the
window and I roll down
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he says Herb, you
don't believe what happens.
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He says, I have been spending
an hour a day in my Bible
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and my life changed, my wife
is going to church with me now.
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Our 13-year-old
daughter who has been kicked out
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at several public
schools is going to church now.
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And I thought and
I'm trying to recap--
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you know, recall
what did I tell him.
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You told him, your
experience that God reached you.
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That's it, I never
brought any scripture reference
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because I was
afraid that would blow it,
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you know, at the time.
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But you did tell him
that the way God reached you
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was to spend time
with him that hour a day.
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And you know, for me,
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you actually learned
a little bit earlier.
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I was involved in part
time ministry, by the age of 35.
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I mean and did for 14
years but when God reached me
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is when He got my
attention to spend
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an hour a day in prayer with Him
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and I incorporated the
Bible as part of my prayer time
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and it--it actually went for
much longer than an hour a day
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but He totally changed my life
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when I did that. Absolutely.
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And so it's getting to
its spending time with some
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is how they
develop a relationship.
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If you don't
spend anytime with God--
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that's why you don't have
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an intimate
relationship with Him.
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You know, and
somebody is out there though,
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what do you say
to the poor person?
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I am thinking of
the single mother
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who is working a 12
hour shifts somewhere
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and coming home and
she is got kids to feed
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and doing homework to
see that they get done
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and house to clean
and may be has to stop
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by the grocery store on
the way got to feed the dog,
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may be iron and she
is got all these things
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and she is
thinking how am I going
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to find an hour a day
to spend with the Lord?
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And it's a very daunting
and challenging thought.
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But the bottom line is this,
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"Seek ye first the kingdom
of God, and His righteousness."
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That's when you write
your list of priorities out.
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That's what its
talking about. Okay.
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Where does Jesus rank in there?
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And yeah, you know,
family is important,
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work is important
well, that kind of stuff
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but if its more
important than Jesus
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then I don't how
I was to explain it.
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He is not number one on
your list of priorities.
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He is not your first
love. He is not your first love.
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You know, I never use to like to
get up at 5:30 in the morning,
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that's what I have to
do-- I spend an hour and half,
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two hours in
some with my writing
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not much more than that.
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But the thing is this, I don't
like to get up early normally
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but I love getting up because
it's like panning for gold.
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You know, you
always find little flakes
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but when you get the
nugget once in a while
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it's like the pursuit
has been worth it. Amen.
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And then he followed
that to mother of hope,
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which is Jesus, you know. Amen.
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But, so--you know, and I
completely sympathies with that
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but see shared with
that forklift driver
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when I really
finding figure it all out
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I realize all I told him
about is what I experienced
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and how I spent
time in the Bible.
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What changed his life
spending time with the Bible
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and I realize what that--
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that's its not very
complicated you know.
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It's-- I couldn't
figure out why that worked.
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And it slowly
progressed from there
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and then God says, you know,
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you can be trusted
with "who you think."
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I was so proud, I thought well,
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you know, I didn't
care what he thought about
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he is just a forklift driver.
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Honestly, that's what
I thought and God says,
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oh man, this guy is so proud.
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How can we use him? Yeah.
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And yet he did
and opened my heart up
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and then I thought okay.
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Then after a while
you burn with compassion
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for these people you know
and derelict on the street.
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You know, sometimes
it's very easy for me
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to fire a dollar
bill of the window
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at some guy
standing there, you know.
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That's easy to do and that
sort of pleases my conscious.
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I gonna be really honest.
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But, you know what really works?
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Stop and spend an
hour just talking with him.
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What was your life, you
know, your family blah-blah-blah
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and see what that
does for your heart
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and see what that does for them.
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It will change them from--
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you know, somebody is
just babbling nothings
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to bring in
their focus right back.
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And what did Jesus do?
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He spent a serious
amount of time just with people.
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What was His agenda? I
want to impart love to you.
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Amen, Amen.
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And you know it all
begins with a friendship.
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A friendship evangelism
where we have to reach out
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and connect with
people on some level
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and, you know, in 2
Corinthians 5:16 Paul said,
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I think that's what it is
2 Corinthians 5:16 he said,
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you know, we no
longer look at anyone
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merely from a human prospective,
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we once looked at Jesus
like that and we are wrong.
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So I think
sometimes what it is--
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is that we got to say Lord,
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show me people
from Your prospective.
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Let, you know,
sometimes there is people
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who are so
unlovely and unlovable
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and you might think, you know,
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you may be a clerk
that I have recently
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had this
experience that this was just
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a mean spirit of
person that was behind.
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I was having a rough day any way
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and I am sitting there thinking,
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Lord, let me say something
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because her heart
is probably breaking.
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You know, if you treat everyone
as if their heart is breaking
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because it probably is but
what we have got to do then
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is just come to God,
let Him feel through us,
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ask Him to help us see
people from His prospective.
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She was lost, she was
suffering, she is hurting,
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and when we do that it
opens us up a little more
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to want to share with someone,
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to want to be their friend.
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Right, exactly,
you are exactly right.
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And another thing
is when you do share,
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it's not dependent
on your Bible knowledge
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it's dependent
on your experience.
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What is Jesus done for me?
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If you look at the
story the demoniac,
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so that the
housewife you talked about
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is just hairy
scary, you know, life.
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So she gets the idea, you know,
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just because he
brought that analogy up,
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that you don't have
to be some theologian,
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you don't have to
be some extravert,
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you don't have to be
some prerequisites education.
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It's like the demoniac,
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I mean Jesus comes
we know the story well.
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There is this lunatic
comes running out of Him,
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prior to that
everybody would run away
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and you know
parents I can just imagine
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just pull their kids
well, don't go near him.
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Oh there he is just
run, you know, whatever.
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So now as when
this person stands bold
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and Jesus cast the
demons away we hear that,
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but then, you know,
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the demons go into
pigs, pig drown themselves
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and the whole country
comes out and kicks Jesus out.
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Strange response but they
do. So here is always people--
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They were worry
about their economy
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when they were about--
Yeah, that's true exactly.
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They saw an unbelievable
miracle standing there
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but we say get out of here.
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So here is the demoniac
in front of him is Jesus
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in the boat and a few disciples
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and he asks the question
that I would have asked.
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Can I come with You
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because behind them
is the hostile group.
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The ones that have that have
chastised him his whole life,
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because he was
menace to society.
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He doesn't want to stay there
with the people that hate him,
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he wants to go
with Jesus and Jesus
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rejects him and says, no.
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You know and that's most
cold thing he could ever said,
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except for He says I
want you to stay here
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and I want you to go
to your own home town
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that the Decapolis,
the Country of Ten Cities.
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I want you to go and share.
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Now what does the guy know?
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Does he knowing anything
about behavior? Nothing.
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Does he knowing anything
about the Bible? Nothing.
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He is on the wrong side
of the, you know, the lake.
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Yeah, hang out for that thought
because I got to come back.
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You said Jesus rejects him.
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He didn't reject him,
He injected his request.
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Because Jesus,
well I want to make sure
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everybody out
here says that Jesus
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was not being hard hearted.
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What Jesus knew was that
where this man was right now,
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He knew. He could use him.
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He could use him
in such a powerful way
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and He needed probably
that time to go share and heal
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and mend some
broken relationships
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by sharing and getting--
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gaining forgiveness
asking for forgiveness
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and he was ready to go out
and he was a miracle story.
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So-- Absolutely.
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God always knows what's best.
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Yeah, that's right,
when I say rejection
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I am saying that's what we
would have thought humanly.
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He reject, yeah,
He reject his request.
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And if God has a plan, just
like He is a plan for your life,
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He has a plan for my life
and every person watching. Amen.
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God has a plan, in heaven
from the foundation of the earth
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and a minimum
from our mother's womb
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because lot of
disciples said that.
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So he was serious,
so God says no, share.
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So what does he do?
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He doesn't he-he is not
going with any knowledge.
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He's never probably seen a Bible
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because he is on the
heathen side the Greeks and all.
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He doesn't know any about
that and Jesus interests him
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with that mission
to go spread the word.
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What was he gonna spread?
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Because he doesn't
know anything about diet,
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he doesn't know anything
about behavior, anything,
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sometimes Christians things
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really what we
should be sharing.
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He doesn't know
anything about it,
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he doesn't know
anything about the Bible,
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doesn't know anything
about God all he knows,
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there is this
person came and freed me
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and that's all he
has for a story he goes.
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And we don't
know what all he said,
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but all we know, he
has to say is I was freed.
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And then when Jesus comes
back to story, He picks up.
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You can read this
in Mark 5 and Mark 8
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and then with Luke--Luke 8
really brings it to the head.
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They come- Jesus comes back,
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this time the whole
country flocks to Jesus
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and they follow Him for three
whole days with out food, water,
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to the point where they see
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what are we gonna do
these people are gonna faint.
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And that's where the
feeding of the 4,000 took place.
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All over one lunatic
who didn't know anything?
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All he had was a story.
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And so we don't think
okay, it's only for those.
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Let's look at Paul.
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What did Paul do and
King of Agrippa to in Acts 26.
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He says, Paul has one
shot to make his case,
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he has one shot to
make the case for God.
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He should have engaged that
guy with intellectual verbiage
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because, you know, he
is a probably a Ph.D king
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and Paul is a Ph.D theologian,
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you know, in terms of
the school of Pharisees.
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So, what does Paul do?
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He tells his story
even the part, you know,
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I'm going to Damascus
to, you know, to make--
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take it out on this
Christians and all kind of stuff
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and there is light hits
him and go blind I mean,
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Paul, you are going
side ways on these story.
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You are gonna make a fool of
yourself in front of the king.
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What did King Agrippa say?
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He says, you almost persuade me.
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You bring me to the
brink and I'm almost ready--
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It's a contention. To the edge.
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Absolutely, over his
story you read Acts 26,
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nothing about theology in there.
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He starts from
when he is a child
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going to the
Pharisees circle schools
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all the way through
this ridiculous experience
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in the world would say.
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And the king is
brought to the edge in fact,
00:17:08.26\00:17:09.95
governor Festus
even said you are mad,
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because he is embarrassed
that even allow the king
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to come and listen to the story.
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But the point is
what is the housewife,
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the haggard housewife
that you are describing earlier
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or who ever it is doesn't
matter, what do you have?
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Well, if you don't
know Jesus go find him
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but if you do find
him which you are gonna,
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because that says
seek and you will find.
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There are no conditions
about it, you will find.
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So when you find
Him now, I simply do say
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this is what's
happening in my life.
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This is what its like before.
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I have fulfillment now even
though I am stuck on the street,
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I am stuck with screaming kids,
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I can't keep up in the
laundering everything else
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but I spend an hour or
day with Jesus in the morning
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and, you know, what
I have peace of mind.
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At least that hour is
such an incredible moment of,
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you know, rehab.
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You know, what, I-- it
suddenly just struck me
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that there is time that
I have got this long list
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of what I know has to
be done during the day
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and it just keeps
growing and growing,
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through out the day
and you are thinking,
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how am I going to get this done?
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I won't, I mean, there is
only so much one person can do.
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When I take that
time out to be with Jesus
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I don't always get
everything done on my list
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but I get everything its
important done on my list
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and it's so
amazing by the next day
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some of those things
that were on my 'A' list
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that needed to be doing. Yeah.
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It's almost like they
just dissipated, they,
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you know, they were
dispelled like a little poof.
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What seem so
important to me the day before,
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it has been taken care of.
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And so, there is
seek first Matthew 6:33
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"Seek first the kingdom
of God and his righteousness,
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and all these things
will be added unto you."
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Absolutely, and
that's a guarantee.
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It's not it a may be
and it's a guarantee.
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So if you just
share what's happened,
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then your
neighbors gonna want that.
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The person you come in
contact with that your PTA club
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or your kids little
league soccer whatever it is.
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The people you
come and contact with
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and how much do you need
to know to share your story.
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I don't know of
anybody but it's so intimidated
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that they can't tell what's
happened in their life. Amen.
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You know, I mean
it's intimidating
00:19:09.64\00:19:11.20
to say I don't know this text,
00:19:11.23\00:19:12.26
I don't know that
text and this one.
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But, there is nothing to share
what's happening in your life.
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You are an authority anyways.
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Get that in your head that I
am an authority on one thing.
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In fact they have
done this a few times
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when I have done in
posterities, begin to pastors.
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I'll get a franchise
to shake him a little bit
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and I will say when I am
going to speak about them
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I am preeminent
authority on this.
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There is--none of you guys know
as much as I know about this
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and there is no church leaders
and no much about there else.
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Who invited this arrogant guy?
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And its because what I had
talk about is my story. Yeah.
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I can be bold about that
and so can the person out there
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who thinks they don't
have anything to offer.
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But that's all a
Holy Spirit needs
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that's all a Holy Spirit wants.
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Its all Jesus used in Paul,
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its all Jesus used in
the demoniac is their story,
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to allow the Holy Spirit
to come in and do the work.
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See we tend to take too
much responsibility in ourself
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think we got to be qualified,
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we have to have a
degree in theology
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or we need this or we need that.
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No, afraid not.
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That's Satan
telling us that. Right.
00:20:03.90\00:20:06.30
Jesus is telling us, go
ye let me speak through you.
00:20:06.33\00:20:10.29
But you know one
thing I will say that,
00:20:10.32\00:20:12.61
I have found that I
was much more bold witness
00:20:12.64\00:20:15.53
the more promises
of God that I knew
00:20:15.56\00:20:18.40
and that I was
praying back to the Lord.
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I learned how to
pray God's promises
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to claim them over my life.
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Speak them over
my life. Absolutely.
00:20:23.77\00:20:25.10
And when I talk to
people I don't always you know,
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I do this with my husband,
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I don't think I do it
with anybody else but you know,
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I don't tell him
well its, you know,
00:20:32.40\00:20:35.85
2 Corinthians 5"17 says that
00:20:35.88\00:20:37.80
"You are the new
creation in Christ.
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The old has gone,
the new has come" Great.
00:20:39.13\00:20:40.78
But I will say,
you know the Bible says
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the more-- the more
I can share with them
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at that some point
of life the Bible says
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that you are a
new creation in Christ
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and that's been my
experience a totally new.
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Now, it also says that the old
is gone and the new is coming.
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I will say sometimes
that old loose its ugly head,
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and I have to remember
by faith that God counseling
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that are not as
though they already were.
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So, I am not telling
them that's Romans 4:17,
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I am not telling
them where this is
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but I start
explaining my own experience
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using the word of God
which has transforming power,
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and quite often then they will
say where is that scripture.
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Well, at that point
if you don't know admit--
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at least if you know
scripture in your heart
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there is power
in the word of God
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to talk about God's promises.
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But you don't
have to know the Bible
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is what you are saying
before you begin sharing.
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You don't need
extra word either.
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You just start sharing.
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Because the--the inter
word on one, one you are right.
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The inter word on one on one
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can share on
something the authority on.
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You know, my life
used to be this way
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and there may be you know, timid
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when they are
telling whatever else.
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But, here's what
my life is like now,
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you know I
don't have this peace.
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And you know, I think we
said this in a previous program
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and I just kind of
want to reiterate this,
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it all has to begin with
that bounding of friendship.
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So let's say that
I'm a mother of three
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and I am very shy
and my next door neighbor
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and the apartment next door
is also may be a single mother.
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Well, I may
not-- I may be so shy
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that I don't how
to go over and open up
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a conversation with her
to start sharing that story.
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But, what you can do is go share
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something with her a flower.
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Well absolutely, that's true.
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Something, you know,
a cupcake whatever it is
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that your sharing and
somebody on the health message
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is gonna call me on
to the cupcake but--
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and then ask
questions about their life.
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Get them to talking
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because everybody loves
to talk about them self.
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Then usually what
follows after someone is told
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their story is they
began to ask your story.
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And then they have
given you permission to share,
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and they are
inviting you to share.
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Great, and in their
story they are gonna find this.
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I am haggard,
you should be haggard
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even though you
probably are bit haggard
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you have peace
of mind about you.
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You have a sense
of sanity in this all.
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So as they begin to see,
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even though you don't
have more money than I do
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or anything else you
have something I don't have.
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See when I--when I
share with a billionaire,
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I know, you know, they don't
take my wallet off say well,
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let me look first to
see if you're qualified
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you can give me advice.
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No, no all they want to know was
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what's going to fill
that emptiness they have.
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When I share with a
derelict on the street
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and here is what you do.
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As you share what
you know they don't have,
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because you as a Christian
have it all. You know--
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Well, a big statement
and some people out there
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probably going, I
don't feel like that.
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Well, even I don't feel
like that but you know what
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how many meals have you missed?
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I mean are you really you know,
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and so with the derelict
you know what I share with them?
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You know, I
haven't gone without him,
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I haven't missed the
meal and I don't know when
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and I got a place to stay.
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I don't tell my own my house,
I just say I got a place to stay
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and I got door
locks on my doors.
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Well, that sounds
pathetically you know
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not even elementary to say
door locks but the billionaire
00:23:51.37\00:23:54.08
if I told him I got door locks.
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He says, I've
got whole security,
00:23:55.35\00:23:57.46
groups of people
looking after me.
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So I am sharing with
that person what I know
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that they don't
have and what they need.
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And see I don't
tell him you are empty,
00:24:03.63\00:24:05.72
you are hungry, if you get God--
00:24:05.75\00:24:06.87
no I am telling what
I have because of God
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and then they see the answer.
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And see what the billionaire,
what do I talk to him about?
00:24:11.26\00:24:14.43
I talk about peace of
mind, I talk to him about
00:24:14.46\00:24:16.92
I am pinnacle of
my little empire.
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When I come home at night,
well the God is really not
00:24:18.21\00:24:20.27
because at this point
my belief system allows me
00:24:20.30\00:24:23.78
to unload on
someone bigger than myself.
00:24:23.81\00:24:27.04
So they get the
picture of that boy, you know,
00:24:27.07\00:24:29.44
I can never get the bucker.
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It always comes up
to me and it stops here
00:24:30.71\00:24:32.37
and I am under so much
pressure with my empire.
00:24:32.40\00:24:35.64
I say, I can unload.
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And I say when I
get kicked in the face
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and sand thrown
on my eyes from foot,
00:24:38.86\00:24:40.85
you know, threaten lawsuits
and all that kind of stuff,
00:24:40.88\00:24:42.76
you know I can shrug it off
00:24:42.79\00:24:44.76
because I got a bigger calling,
00:24:44.79\00:24:45.94
you know, and
that's what they see.
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And that's all we
need to do share--
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share the
benefits of Christianity
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and if you know Jesus
you will know the benefits.
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And if you don't
know the benefits
00:24:54.04\00:24:56.19
you don't know
Jesus. That's true.
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So you need to get into that.
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It all comes back
down to that spending time
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in the word and in prayer
with the Lord, absolutely.
00:25:02.20\00:25:05.49
But is it worth it?
Yes, there is nothing,
00:25:05.52\00:25:08.96
burn nothing like
leaving lost soul to Jesus.
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That is the pinnacle of,
its not human accomplishment
00:25:12.27\00:25:15.94
but it's the
pinnacle of relevance.
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Is to see--to see a God
and Creator of the universe
00:25:19.16\00:25:23.23
can use a twig like me.
00:25:23.26\00:25:26.67
Who, you know, who
isn't always nice to people.
00:25:26.70\00:25:30.60
Who has his hang-ups
but in spite of it all
00:25:30.63\00:25:34.79
we can use Him
00:25:34.82\00:25:36.39
and when you realize
it, that it's not me.
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I couldn't ever set this
up, this person in the airplane,
00:25:38.61\00:25:41.03
this person in business
meeting and this and that.
00:25:41.06\00:25:43.40
I could never
set this things up.
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Now, the person in the
line at the grocery store.
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Absolutely, you know,
you could ever set up.
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You see, this had a
flat tire that you start.
00:25:47.76\00:25:50.20
You know, you got
it right, exactly.
00:25:50.23\00:25:51.33
So it's every where and
Jesus you started all with it,
00:25:51.36\00:25:53.86
it all comes right back to that.
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I was hungry and you
either fed me or you didn't
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and if we couple that with
00:25:59.51\00:26:01.26
that was been
faithful over few things
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I am gonna make you
rule over bigger things.
00:26:02.71\00:26:04.12
If your life is going nowhere
well, may be you should start
00:26:04.15\00:26:06.26
by being in faith
where you are today.
00:26:06.29\00:26:07.75
See lot of people say,
00:26:07.78\00:26:08.81
if I only had
millions I would help people.
00:26:08.84\00:26:11.00
No, do it today and
you will have whatever
00:26:11.03\00:26:12.95
God needs to give you
later to help people. Amen.
00:26:12.98\00:26:15.97
So anyways, yeah, so that's
a precisely where it's all at.
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It's just been--
it's been open to what
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Jesus had done for
you and guaranteed.
00:26:21.93\00:26:24.94
I can guarantee on
beyond the shadow of doubt
00:26:24.97\00:26:26.69
I have got emails an inch thick
00:26:26.72\00:26:28.85
that have are actually printed.
00:26:28.88\00:26:29.91
Not the ones that I have
saved of people's testimony
00:26:29.94\00:26:31.91
all over who gave an
hour or a day to Jesus
00:26:31.94\00:26:34.27
and look what
happened in their life.
00:26:34.30\00:26:35.74
This is all over the world.
00:26:35.77\00:26:37.18
So basically let's sum this up,
00:26:37.21\00:26:38.74
because our time
is already gone again.
00:26:38.77\00:26:40.28
That when you are
witnessing to someone
00:26:40.31\00:26:42.59
you are steps are,
have a common bond,
00:26:42.62\00:26:45.38
you establish some
kind of a something,
00:26:45.41\00:26:48.48
find something that you
have in common in with them
00:26:48.51\00:26:51.33
and talk to them about it.
00:26:51.36\00:26:52.56
Let them talk about
themselves first then
00:26:52.59\00:26:54.37
when they start you
just share your testimony,
00:26:54.40\00:26:56.42
what God has done in
your life. Yeah, nothing more.
00:26:56.45\00:26:59.16
And then to know,
that you got to have
00:26:59.19\00:27:01.87
that testimony to share though,
00:27:01.90\00:27:03.28
you got to have that
real relationship with them.
00:27:03.31\00:27:06.55
You know, its so exciting Herb,
00:27:06.58\00:27:08.22
to see how God
is using your life.
00:27:08.25\00:27:10.29
You are a unique individual.
00:27:10.32\00:27:11.79
We all unique but I just
want to thank you so much
00:27:11.82\00:27:15.79
for coming back
again and joining us
00:27:15.82\00:27:18.53
and this is
been really exciting.
00:27:18.56\00:27:20.29
So it's always a
privilege Shelley, thanks.
00:27:20.32\00:27:23.17
You bet, Herb.
00:27:23.20\00:27:24.39
You know, for
those of you at home
00:27:24.42\00:27:26.57
wherever you
are around the world
00:27:26.60\00:27:29.16
I don't care if
you are in Africa
00:27:29.19\00:27:30.63
or if you are in Tunisia
00:27:30.66\00:27:32.21
or if you are in
Australia or China
00:27:32.24\00:27:36.75
remember that God only--
you may be the only Jesus
00:27:36.78\00:27:41.67
the only Bible than
anybody ever gets to read.
00:27:41.70\00:27:44.67
So let your little light shine
and be a light onto the world.
00:27:44.70\00:27:49.53
Now, may the grace of
the Lord Jesus Christ,
00:27:49.56\00:27:51.62
the love of the Father
00:27:51.65\00:27:52.78
and the fellowship of
the Holy Spirit be with you.
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