Participants: J.D. Quinn (Host), Tim Riesenberger and Raena Ewing
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000303
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00:30 Welcome to "Issues and Answers".
00:32 My name is J.D. Quinn. 00:34 We have a wonderful program today on relationships. 00:37 But first I would like to go the Bible 00:39 and I would like to read a scripture. 00:40 I always like starting off with a scripture 00:42 to bring God into our program here. 00:45 I'm taking this from Isaiah 26:3, 00:49 "You will keep him in perfect peace, 00:51 whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You." 00:55 Amen. Thank you, Jesus, for these wonderful words. 00:59 I would like to introduce you 01:00 to Dr.Tim Riesenberger and Raena Ewing. 01:06 Now before everybody gets excited this is not a couple, 01:09 they're friends, is that right? 01:11 That's right. 01:12 And we're going to be talking about relationships. 01:16 Before we start, I'd like to say a short prayer, 01:18 just to invite the Lord in, okay. 01:21 Father I just want to thank you 01:22 for this wonderful day that you've created. 01:24 Dear Father, and I just ask you Lord 01:26 as we talk about relationships 01:28 we know that they start with you 01:30 and dear Father that it trickles down to each one of us 01:33 and the people that we date and the people that we marry 01:36 and the people that we just associate with. 01:38 So we thank you for what you're doing in our lives 01:41 and we turn this time over to you 01:42 with thanksgiving in our hearts. 01:44 We love you in the name of your Son, Jesus. 01:46 Amen. Amen. 01:48 Dr Tim. Yes. 01:50 Tell me something about yourself 01:51 and then I would like to hear something about Raena 01:54 and who the two of you are? 01:56 And then we'll get into our subject. 01:58 My name is Tim Riesenberger. 02:00 I'm a physician from Seattle. 02:02 I practice emergency medicine 02:04 or, I mean, the ER, as many of you might think. 02:08 I became a Christian, 02:10 when I was a junior in college 02:12 and my interest in relationships honestly stemmed 02:15 from wanting to get married, right away. 02:17 But of course, I didn't know anything 02:19 about godly relationships. 02:21 So I began to study about 02:23 what is God's design for relationships. 02:26 I began to read books, 02:27 attend seminars and then eventually 02:30 I began to give seminars on relationships. 02:33 And something that I always do 02:35 is I'll handout cards to every participant 02:38 and I will ask them to write down 02:40 what their ideal mate is. 02:42 Now they only get 30 seconds because I want to know 02:44 what they're really thinking. 02:46 Now the joy for me is, 02:49 is that I get to keep all these cards 02:51 and so I get to learn every time I do a presentation, 02:55 on what people are looking for and not only understand that, 02:59 but compare that with the Bible 03:01 and God's principles for relationships. 03:03 Amen. 03:04 So I can imagine as time goes by 03:06 you have quite a database, you know. 03:08 Yes, several hundreds from kids as young as teenagers 03:13 in academies, high schools 03:15 to those who have been married for many years. 03:17 Amen. Raena Ewing? 03:19 Yes. You are a precious young lady. 03:22 I know your father and your mother very well. 03:24 Larry and Loy, they work at 3ABN. 03:26 I absolutely love them. 03:28 I know that they are a loving couple. 03:31 They are. They are, definitely. 03:33 Tell us about you. 03:34 Well, I'm an accountant. Amen. 03:37 I actually just finished studying, 03:40 some of the tests for the CPA. 03:41 Yes. 03:43 I'm working actually on my-- finished my last test. Yes. 03:46 So, I'm waiting on pins and needles 03:48 to get the results from that test. 03:49 Yes. So you can all keep me in your prayers. 03:51 Amen. 03:53 And my interest in relationships kind of, 03:55 was heightened during my time spent at university, 03:58 just watching my friends and some of the relationships 04:02 that they were experiencing 04:04 and of course, an inspiration for my interest 04:07 in having a great relationship was my parents. 04:10 Amen. Who have been married for over 30 years. 04:13 Amen. 04:14 And just watching them 04:15 and the love that they share made me 04:17 want something more like that. 04:19 Yes. 04:20 And this kind of starts us all off 04:22 because we're coming from two different spectrums here. 04:24 Dr.Tim came from a broken home. 04:27 That's right. You came from a loving home. 04:29 Yes. And so this brings a separate dynamic in itself 04:33 in here of what you have might be looking for. 04:35 Dr.Tim was looking for something that he didn't have. 04:38 You're looking for something that you did have. 04:41 That's right. Now is this right? 04:42 That's right. 04:44 Okay, you have briefly introduced us 04:48 into why you got interested in relationships. 04:52 Let's just pick it up from there, Dr. Tim, 04:54 and just kind of take a step further. 04:56 As you mentioned, my family was not ideal. 05:00 None of us were Christians initially. 05:02 And my parents were divorced when I was 12. 05:05 My father remarried. 05:07 My mother remarried, divorced again then remarried again. 05:11 So I've had several opportunities to see 05:15 some problems with relationships 05:17 and to think about why they don't succeed. 05:20 So for me that was not something 05:22 I wanted to repeat in any way, 05:25 but not coming from a Christian background, 05:27 I didn't have any principles 05:29 as to what I would do differently. 05:31 So I began to think very carefully and say, 05:34 well, what I'm I going to do from here. 05:36 You know, am I going to make the same mistake 05:38 as my parents or am I going try 05:40 to do something lasting, something different. 05:43 Amen. Something that God would approve off. 05:44 Amen. 05:46 And, Raena, I imagine 05:48 as we've kind of have touched down 05:50 you, kind of came from a clever family, you know. 05:52 That's correct. 05:54 You know, father knows best absolutely a fantastic home, 05:58 so you knew what you wanted to build on, 06:01 but I'm assuming that just because you say something 06:05 that you would like to have, doesn't make it automatic? 06:08 It doesn't make it automatic. 06:09 It takes lots and lots of work to find that right person 06:13 and that's why we're here today. 06:15 Where would we start on this? 06:18 I'm assuming that you've got an ideal in mind. 06:22 Definitely. 06:23 We know that Dr. Tim, I know what I don't want to do. 06:28 I know hat I do want. 06:31 Now, Tim, what you have found in everything 06:34 and doing these different studies 06:35 and doing the different counseling with people, 06:38 what have you found dealing with the parameters of people, 06:40 when would be a good time too start dating? 06:42 Well, that's a great question, J.D. 06:44 And the problem is you've probably heard people say 06:48 "How kids grow up just so quickly today? 06:50 And they're already just pairing off right away. 06:53 And we wonder why that is. 06:55 But if we go back just about 150 years to the 1800s, 07:00 we find a very different society. 07:02 When we grew up, it was typically the man 07:05 that was working in some sort of industry 07:08 and the son would be helping 07:09 his father out, as an apprentice. 07:11 Now that boy was ready to take over the business, 07:14 probably at about 15 maybe 16. 07:16 Likewise, a young woman 07:18 would be helping her mother out, 07:19 caring for the younger children, doing the household duties, 07:22 and she about the same time was ready to take over 07:26 the entire household, maybe 14, 15. 07:28 And we think about that. 07:30 Whereas now, where are we? 07:33 What can we do at about 14, 15? 07:35 We're still in high school. 07:37 We haven't even finished our education, 07:38 whereas the people back then in the 1800s 07:41 had finished all the formal education 07:43 they were going to use, 07:44 for the rest of their life. 07:46 But there's something even more than 07:47 that I would like to zero-in on 07:49 is that back then people married very young, 07:53 maybe 17, 18 perhaps 19. 07:56 You were considered old, if you waited till your 20s. 08:00 But there was a reason for that, 08:02 back then in the 1800s surprisingly enough, 08:05 when kids physically matured was about 17, maybe even 18. 08:10 Now-a-days it's a very different story. 08:12 Kids are physically matured at 11, 10 maybe even 9. 08:18 And that explains why many of us 08:21 as young people are just chomping 08:22 at the bit for a relationship, 08:24 when we're really not ready. 08:26 Not just because we're not done with our education, 08:29 but just because our minds haven't matured, 08:32 whereas if you look at places that are perhaps 08:35 a little bit the same as it was in the 1850s, 08:39 a very simple lifestyle. 08:40 And I would even venture to say, a very simple diet. 08:44 Yes. They matured a lot slower. 08:46 Perhaps you look at rural China, 08:48 studies that have been done there, 08:50 show that kids mature physically at about 15 to 18 still, 08:55 now what's the difference. 08:57 Well, as a physician, I've looked at the changes 09:00 that have occurred from 1850 to now. 09:03 And what you find is very surprising. 09:06 We, as Americans are eating a lot more protein. 09:09 We're ingesting a lot more hormones and antibiotics. 09:13 And we know this when we're looking at dairy cows, 09:16 from looking at chickens that they will mature faster. 09:19 If you feed them more animal proteins, 09:22 the same works with humans. 09:23 We physically mature too rapidly now 09:26 and that's why we feel like 09:28 we're ready to date in our early teens. 09:31 When honestly our education, our economic status, 09:34 our minds are not even going to be ready until our 20s. 09:38 Something I think is very fascinating. 09:40 We're all worried about divorce, 09:42 when we think of relationships. 09:44 The divorce rate has now climbed above 50% inside 09:47 and outside the church. 09:49 Now the reason for that is many. 09:52 I think as I have mentioned before, 09:53 we start too early in our relationships. 09:55 We're physically mature before our minds are caught up, 09:59 but I think it's something else. 10:00 If you look at a man for instance, 10:02 when is the lowest rate of divorce he's going to ever have? 10:05 Studies have shown when he's 28 or older. 10:10 Now that's seems like a very old age to many of us 10:13 but it's because our brains are not finished developing 10:16 until about that age. 10:18 Now of course if people have already had one divorce, 10:21 one might be tempted to think, 10:23 well, they have learned their lesson, 10:24 so the divorce rate would be lower. 10:26 Wrong again. It is higher than any other time. 10:30 One divorce creates an easier out for the next one. 10:34 So in answer to your question, when are we ready to date? 10:37 When we're not only physically prepared, but mentally. 10:41 We're finished with most of our schooling. 10:43 What we're going to do for the rest of our lives. 10:45 We have the ability to stand on our own two feet 10:48 without depending on our parents, 10:50 without staying at home. 10:51 Economically, we can manage our own affairs, 10:54 because dating of course leads to marriage 10:57 and if you're not prepared to take care of yourself, 11:00 how can you take care of a home. Amen. 11:02 And before we get into marriage, 11:05 let's talk about the media. 11:06 What is the media? 11:07 I mean, my goodness, I mean, we're just looking 11:09 all the same, all kind of stuff 11:11 and I guess that monkey see monkey do. 11:14 So consequently we buy into it, 11:15 because we want to be as handsome or as pretty 11:19 or built as well, you know as this person or that person. 11:23 Where does all this fit in? 11:25 Well, I believe the media starts very early. 11:29 In fact, I will give you a small sample. 11:32 Let's say, Disney, something that's viewed 11:35 as very wholesome by many, 11:37 something that's viewed as what our kids could watch. 11:40 I will give you a song from a Disney movie. 11:43 It says, "Tell me princess 11:45 when did you last let your heart decide." 11:50 There's a lot of programming going on there 11:52 and these are kids that are 6, 7 maybe 8 11:56 that are hearing this message that 11:58 in choosing relationships 11:59 they need to let their heart decide 12:03 but what does God's Word tell us? 12:05 In Proverbs 28:26, it says that 12:08 "He who trusted his own heart is a fool." 12:13 Sometimes the media is giving us messages 12:15 that are really just the opposite of God's Word. 12:18 And speaking of opposites, here's another song 12:21 from a very popular artist on a TV show. 12:26 "We come together because opposites attract", 12:31 and we've all heard that. 12:32 Now is that true, 12:34 well, I would like to read a little statement 12:37 from God's inspired word, 12:39 it's in the book "Patriarchs and Prophets." 12:42 It tells us something very different, 12:46 "Like attracts like, like appreciates like, 12:50 let the love for truth and purity 12:53 and goodness be early implanted in the soul 12:56 and the youth will seek the society 12:59 of those who posses these characteristics." 13:02 Amen. I'd say like appreciates like and attracts like, 13:06 it's a little different than what we're hearing. 13:09 Now of course there is some truth to that opposite, 13:12 because in 1 Corinthians 12, 13:14 the church is talked about as a body. 13:17 A body compliments itself 13:21 and so certainly God will want us 13:22 to find someone who compliments us 13:25 but to say that someone 13:26 who is opposite in principle, in morals, 13:30 in views of life that would be this recipe for disaster. 13:34 Yes. Come off with us. 13:36 I know and we're going to pick this 13:37 back up here in a few minutes. 13:39 I know that at 3ABN when we're talking to people, 13:44 like, lots of times will call in 13:47 and they are very concerned about their life 13:50 as it is now because they were unequally yoked, 13:53 whenever they got married. 13:55 You know, because they thought, 13:56 well, if I marry this person that I've been dating, 14:01 well then the Holy Spirit or myself 14:04 can convert over to my type of thinking. 14:07 And it just doesn't work out like that. 14:10 In following, you know, 14:11 Raena, you came up in a Christian home, so-- 14:14 I can imagine that your parents have-- 14:19 not going to use the word preach at you, 14:21 but they have tried to lead you in the direction, 14:24 listen, honey, its very important 14:26 who you have a relationship with. 14:28 It's very important who you even date 14:30 because sometimes though, the affairs of the heart, 14:33 get a little bit out of whack 14:35 and just because we're dating someone we don't really like, 14:38 then the relationship starts taking place 14:41 and before long then we're fantasizing 14:43 about what could happen. 14:45 Now is this kind of what happened in your home, 14:48 I mean-- Definitely. 14:49 And for me something that's very important 14:51 is what my parents think of my relationships 14:53 and I know there have been, 14:55 you know, a number of people 14:56 that they have given me their opinion and I've listened, 15:00 but at the time I didn't see the wisdom in it. 15:02 Amen. And down the road I have been very grateful, 15:05 so that's something that I have always, 15:07 always appreciated in my parents 15:10 is the fact that we can talk about it 15:11 and they'll give me their input. 15:13 So here we've got the parents input, 15:15 we've got the media's input, 15:17 so how do we draw a line here. 15:21 Well, I think it's really important to understand. 15:24 If you will look at medical literature 15:26 as well as inspiration, 15:28 we're told that the majority of our character is determined 15:32 before the age of seven and I do this experiment 15:36 with the audiences that I have. 15:38 I will ask them, what is your earliest memory? 15:41 And people will say, "Oh, of my house 15:43 when I was young, oh my dog or, 15:45 you know, I can remember my room." 15:47 And then I'll ask, well, how old were you at that time? 15:50 And it varies. People will say five, sometimes four. 15:53 Occasionally, you'll get someone who'll say 3 1/2. 15:56 Now if that is our earliest memory, 15:59 you're telling me that half of our most formative years 16:03 aren't even in our conscious memory, but it is. 16:07 For who, who remember those years, if we don't? 16:11 It's got to be our parents, right? 16:13 And they can give us insights 16:15 and input that we're not even aware of. 16:18 Sometimes our parents know us better than we do 16:22 and I think that is the importance 16:24 is that most relationships are trying to avoid 16:27 the counsel of the parents where it's so valuable, 16:31 if the majority of what you want what you like 16:34 and who you are is made up in those young years, 16:38 talk to the people who remember them best, 16:40 mom and dad. Amen. 16:42 Do you have any thoughts along this line? 16:44 Yeah, I think that one thing in our society 16:48 that we often to forget 16:49 is the importance of those who really care about us 16:53 and our parents are the ones who are closest to us. 16:55 They've been there since we were little, 16:57 they have seen us, and they understand us 16:59 and then I think they have wisdom 17:01 that we can never get, 17:04 if we just listen to their advice. 17:06 Amen. So let me go-- let's segue over here. 17:11 Are most relationships successful? 17:14 Well, I think as we've alluded to before, 17:17 most relationships end up like my parents in divorce, 17:21 but I would say even more than that is that many families 17:24 that stay together are not really happy. 17:27 I can tell you when I graduated from Residency 17:30 they gave each of the graduating residents a gift 17:34 that represented their life and their future. 17:37 I do a lot of traveling overseas. 17:39 I do a lot of volunteer work, so they gave me a globe 17:42 and they said this is for our globe trotter, 17:45 because we know you're going to be going all over the place. 17:47 Now there were two residents in my program, 17:49 they started dating each other 17:51 and they were getting very serious to the point where 17:53 they were going to get married, they were engaged. 17:56 Do you know what gift they gave them? 17:58 A ball and a chain. 18:00 Now why is marriage represented by a ball and a chain? 18:05 Because most of the society realizes 18:08 that though this relationship 18:10 may stay together, it is not happy. 18:12 But that's not the way it has to be. 18:15 In fact it doesn't have to be the 50% divorce rate. 18:19 Or even if you do stay together 18:22 it's a lot different than just existing. 18:25 God's plan for us is to enjoy each other. 18:28 I would like to say even further than that, 18:31 that our family here on the earth 18:34 is supposed to represent God's family up above 18:37 and when we meet God's ideal for that, 18:40 that's exactly what it is. 18:41 But as you mentioned most relationships 18:44 either fail or are not really satisfying. 18:48 In fact I'll share with you a statement that, 18:50 "There's not one marriage in a hundred 18:53 that bears the approval of God, 18:55 helps the others serve their fellowmen 18:58 and brings true happiness." 19:02 So why do you think that they fail? 19:07 Raena? 19:08 Well, I think that a lot of relationships fail 19:11 because we're looking for 19:14 into relationships for selfish reasons. 19:16 We want a relationship because it makes us feel better 19:20 or because it's going to make us more popular 19:23 or because it's going to bring our status up in the world. 19:26 We're not looking at it from the godly perspective. 19:29 Amen. Very well put. 19:31 I think Raena's hit the nail right on the head. 19:34 The key to why people fail is that we look at relationships 19:38 like we look at most of life with, who at the center? 19:41 It's me. The big 'I' and that's the problem, 19:45 but you can see that. 19:46 Just take a look at the internet, 19:48 there's all these dating sites and what are people entering, 19:51 what they're looking for, right? 19:54 I want a guy who's like this, I want a guy who's like that, 19:57 or I would like a woman who looks this, or has this? 20:01 All of us are approaching relationships 20:04 from as Raena mentioned, what can make us happy. 20:07 What fulfills us? 20:08 But how does God approach His relationships? 20:11 Matthew 20:28 says that 20:14 "The Son of Man did not come to be served, 20:16 but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." 20:21 I'll give you an example, my grandparents 20:24 they enjoy going out to eat, 20:27 but what they can never decide on, is where to go 20:30 and I've been taking care of them for several years now, 20:33 so sometimes they will come back 20:35 and they will be arguing and they'll turn to me 20:37 and they will say "Well, Tim, we went 20:39 where he wanted to go last week, it's my turn now." 20:42 And I almost feel like life has come full circle 20:45 that I am now the parent and I have to arbitrate 20:48 and so of course most of us 20:50 would look at the word compromise. 20:52 It's simple, okay. 20:53 This week we'll go where you want 20:55 and the next week we'll go where I want. 20:57 Seems like a simple solution to that dilemma, 21:01 but I would challenge that and say 21:03 that is not what God wants. 21:05 What God wants is not, well, my way and your way. 21:10 But that we end up understanding 21:12 that we're always trying to please the other. 21:15 Because what does God do? Does He say? 21:17 Well, one for you and one for me. 21:20 No, it's all about us. 21:21 God is pouring Himself out to us. 21:23 He didn't come to be served but to serve. 21:26 And when we realize that our relationships are doomed to fail 21:30 because we approach them from selfish reasons. 21:33 We will start to look into 21:35 perhaps what God aligns His relationships to be. 21:39 Of what it should be our road map. Absolutely. 21:43 I know in Shelley and my relationship, 21:45 its absolute fantastic in that-- I put her first, 21:49 you know, I want her to achieve her maximum potential 21:54 of the gift that God has given her. 21:56 And the irony of it is, is that's what she wants for me 22:00 and so it kind of takes the selfishness out of it. 22:04 Because we're wanting to please the other person. Exactly. 22:07 Now as I've mentioned before, you know, 22:11 I went through a lot of "fantasy full relationships" 22:16 in order to get there to find the person 22:18 that I felt totally united with 22:20 and you know, I've had people ask me, 22:22 how do you know when you find that right person? 22:24 I mean, you will know. There are all green lights. 22:29 There's no red lights because I think that the way 22:32 that the Holy Spirit works in each one of our lives, 22:35 you know, that a red light will go up here, 22:37 or a red flag will go up here, you know, warnings. 22:40 And then at that time if they are not all green, 22:43 you better get back down on your knees 22:46 and you better ask for clarification. 22:49 Now would you agree with that? 22:51 Absolutely. Amen. 22:53 I think God allows us to experience obstacles 22:58 to get our attention, 22:59 to bring us back to His ideal for us. 23:02 And the problem is, is that in most relationships 23:06 involvement in physical activity, 23:09 spending a lot of time alone makes us what I call subjective. 23:13 In other words, you've heard the phrase 23:15 that lovers wear rose colored glasses 23:18 because she can do no wrong in my eyes. 23:20 Now that's a problem because if you're looking at it 23:24 from that perspective when that red flag comes up 23:27 it might be just be a pink flag 23:28 with your glasses that you are wearing. 23:30 And you might just ignore it. 23:32 And that's where parents come in, right. 23:34 That's where friends come in, that's where your friends 23:37 from the church come in, 23:38 because they can see things that you don't. 23:41 On the same token, 23:43 I think it behooves each one of us to stay objective. 23:47 The things that will cloud your judgment, 23:49 is getting involved in physical contact too early, 23:52 spending a lot of time alone 23:54 and that's really the problem 23:56 is it when we're alone with somebody each one of us 23:59 puts our best foot forward, exactly. 24:02 We show what we think that the other person 24:06 is wanting to see, instead of letting them see 24:09 who we really are. 24:11 Whereas if you're in a group of people 24:13 and you do a lot of activities in groups, 24:15 no one knows who likes who, 24:18 so we end up acting like ourselves, right. 24:21 And we can observe someone as they really are, 24:24 rather than what they're pretending to be for us, 24:28 so I think that's extremely important 24:30 to keep your eyes open, keep your mind objective 24:33 and talk to people and get counseled 24:35 from those who know best. 24:37 And I think that inspiration 24:38 that we're talking about this right here of course, 24:40 this is just common sense to a Christian, 24:43 is that if we find someone that we truly like not love, like. 24:48 Then we get on our knees even more 24:52 and we lift it up to the Lord. 24:53 My understanding, you know, 24:55 is maybe 4, 5 or 6 times more 24:58 do we start praying about this specific direction. 25:03 And Lord I'm giving you permission 25:06 to let the Holy Spirit impress me what I need to see. 25:11 If there are red flags, I want to see them. 25:14 Make it perfectly clear. 25:15 In fact I give you permission 25:17 to hit me over the head with a two by four, 25:18 because the second most real decision 25:24 that we make in our life, 25:26 next to accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior, 25:28 is who we choose to spend our life with. 25:31 And, I mean, that's a long time in most of our situations 25:35 and so you need to have-- make sure 25:38 that there are no red flags or you need to sit down together 25:41 and work that out, you know, 25:43 at least start communicating together. 25:47 So quickly people change, where can we go with that? 25:54 We don't have but just about another minute and a half, 25:57 but people change so what I see today, 26:00 does that mean that's going to be what I want five years 26:04 from now, 2 years from now, 10 years from now? 26:07 I think you raised a very good question 26:10 and I'd like to share a misconception. 26:14 Men marry woman thinking that they'll never change, 26:19 woman marry us thinking that we will change 26:22 and the truth is we're both wrong. 26:25 The problem is that men very seldom change, 26:29 at least with the pressures of nagging 26:32 or a woman trying to change us. 26:34 And women are very dynamic. 26:35 They change. They react to their situations. 26:38 So, yes, people will change 26:40 and I think we should expect that, 26:42 but I think the best part is that we can change together 26:46 if we have committed our lives 26:47 to the great center which is God, 26:50 as we come closer to Him in our relationship. 26:53 By default, we're going to become closer to one another 26:56 and we're going to change to be closer to one another. 26:59 Amen. Amen. 27:01 Well, as we can see, we're running out of time 27:03 and what a wonderful topic this is. 27:07 I would like to challenge every one, you know, 27:10 to be more in tune with what God tells them to do, 27:12 you know, whenever it deals with relationships. 27:15 I just want to thank each one of you 27:17 for being here today, sharing this time with me, 27:20 but more important with our audience out here 27:23 because we're all looking for something 27:25 and relationships is one of those focal points, 27:29 you know, that can become very confusing 27:31 especially, if they're lonely. 27:34 So let's go back to Isaiah 26:3 in closing, 27:40 "You will keep him in perfect peace, 27:43 whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You." 27:49 Thank you for being with us today on "Issues and Answers." 27:52 We love you. God certainly loves you. |
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