Participants: John Lomacang (Host), Francine Bell
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000295
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00:30 Hello friends and welcome to "Issues and Answers."
00:32 My name is John Lomacang and I'm very happy 00:35 that you've chosen to sit down today 00:37 and join us for a very eye opening program. 00:40 I believe one that's gonna catapult you to a place 00:42 that you have not dreamed of going before 00:45 and to a destiny that's just waiting for you 00:47 to get on board and follow the leading of the Lord. 00:50 Our guest today is one who has world traveled, world known 00:54 and just to say a few one who really knows 00:57 what it's like to catch the vision 00:59 and follow the leading of the Lord. 01:01 So let's meet our guest at this moment. 01:03 Good to have you here today, Francine. 01:05 Thank you, John. Francine Bell. 01:06 It's lovely to be here. That's me, yeah. 01:07 You know, somebody must have said before 01:09 your name rings a bell once you have heard that before. 01:12 Once or twice, yes. 01:14 Now there are those who are watching the program that says, 01:16 "Hey, Francine, I know her. I've met her before." 01:20 But there's somebody watching the program 01:21 that says, "Francine, who?" 01:24 So let's for their benefit 01:25 I'll let our viewers and listeners know who you are 01:27 and give us a little background on who this woman of God is? 01:32 Hmm, she is first and foremost a woman of God. 01:36 Daughter of the king, so that means I'm royalty. Amen. 01:39 And I was born and raised in Brooklyn, New York. 01:42 My mom died when I was seven years of age. 01:45 So my grandmother Elizabeth who was a wonderful godly woman 01:49 brought us up with a foundation of the word of God. 01:54 I am the daughter of a wonderful father 01:58 who wasn't around very much but when he was there 02:01 he really showed his love for us. 02:04 And he was in the Merchant Marines and in the Navy. 02:07 I'm one of when you count the house and holes 13, 02:11 I always say to people I've got to take out 02:13 a pencil and a paper to get them all down. 02:16 But it's been great to be a part of family 02:21 that is a special family. 02:23 I was a music major in New York. 02:26 I went to the school, well, interestingly enough 02:29 I found that I went to your wife's junior high school. Okay. 02:33 Yes, so that was wonderful bit of trivia. 02:35 So that was something that we share. 02:37 And in high school I went to the high school of music and art, 02:40 I was a voice major there and many people would know that, 02:43 that school was part of the school of performing arts 02:46 which gave us the TV series, the movie 02:49 and the stage production of fame. 02:51 Okay, that's right. 02:53 Being a native New York, I'm familiar 02:55 with all of those landmarks of schools in New York City. 02:59 And, no, we did not dance on the top of taxies, 03:01 that's what they tell in the movie. 03:02 I know, I can imagine New York City 03:05 there are so many taxies they wouldn't dare 03:06 let you dance on the top of their taxies. 03:08 Not these days anyway, no. All right. 03:10 You have quite a story, you mentioned just a moment ago 03:14 you're from Brooklyn but I believe firmly 03:16 and I think this is embodied in your entire story, 03:19 that where are you from 03:20 does not necessarily equal where you're heading. 03:23 By no means. 03:25 And you've written a book 03:26 entitled "Lights! Camera! Action!" 03:29 Now I've read much of this book 03:31 and I know a lot about your background. 03:33 But Lights! Camera! Action! 03:35 People connect that right away to show business. Absolutely. 03:38 Walk us down that path because where you are today 03:40 is not where you've always been. 03:42 No, I've always been a drama queen. 03:45 Okay. My family would say that. 03:48 But that title was inspired by God. 03:52 And it has to do with, you know, 03:55 my love of the arts, my involvement in the arts 03:58 and the importance that the arts play in society. 04:03 And God has his people strategically placed 04:06 and I'm one of those that He's got planted 04:09 in the show business industry. 04:11 So when it came time to write a book, I didn't plan on it, 04:17 you know, it was something that God said, "Sit down and do." 04:21 And I have to tell you, John, I stayed on my face a lot, 04:24 you know, because Lord, I don't know how to do this 04:26 but He showed me how? 04:28 And it's a book that while it comes from 04:31 a show business perspective is designed for anyone 04:36 I think I say on the back of the book, 04:37 unless your job is hermit, 04:39 the principles in this book are certainly for you. 04:43 If you have to get up on a day to day basis 04:47 and get on to the stage of life, 04:49 then certainly these principles are for you. 04:53 You know, I like that because a lot of people say, 04:55 well, why can't I accomplish something 04:59 that is seen in the eyes of the world as great. 05:02 But you did-- you don't believe that, 05:04 you believe that everyone is 05:06 a package designed specifically by God, 05:09 you're unique, there's no two Francine Bells in the world. 05:13 I'll say to people, the cemetery is the terrible place 05:16 their dreams that would never-- reality songs never written. 05:21 Inventions that never came to fruition 05:24 because people thought about it 05:25 but didn't think that they could accomplish it. 05:28 But now looking out of your Brooklyn window, 05:30 I want you to take us to Brooklyn for a little bit 05:32 because I'm from Brooklyn. 05:33 I know it's exciting. 05:34 I mean this makes a difference to you. 05:36 You know, I'm not too far from where you were raised 05:38 right there in Bed-Stuy and Clinton Hill, 05:41 Marcy Projects, Myrtle Avenue downtown, 05:44 you know, the whole kit and caboodle 05:46 you were in some of the same places that I was. 05:50 But to have having been a world traveler 05:54 one who even lives in Australia. Yes. 05:58 Okay, how does a Brooklyn born, 06:00 how a young lady becomes an Australian resident 06:03 having lived in Paris? 06:06 Having been in not only the movie industry 06:08 and the music industry but also the modeling industry. 06:11 There's somebody watching this program 06:13 I believe from Brooklyn, New York 06:14 right now saying, what? 06:15 Somebody from Brooklyn did all of that. 06:17 Walk us through that for a brief moment. 06:19 I've got an attitude that says, 06:23 if God calls me to it, He'll show me how to do it, ow. 06:29 And I always add the ow because I want people to remember it. 06:31 I like the attitude in that. Yes, yeah. 06:33 You know, I think if the seed is planted in my mind 06:38 and it's according to the word of God, you know, 06:41 it doesn't say there is no passage and verse that says, 06:45 you can't do this, then I think why not? 06:49 And, you know, a lot of it has to do 06:51 with the people that influence our lives. 06:54 Do I had an aunt that, I still have her, praise God 06:58 that was a beautiful glamorous woman, you know, 07:03 when people were on the welfare lines 07:07 my aunt had the vision to know that you could wear fur 07:12 and when it was politically correct. 07:14 And when, you know, 07:16 people were wondering how they will make-- 07:18 they were going to make ends meet 07:20 she was driving a cadillac 07:21 and she was traveling to places like Israel. 07:25 And, you know, I just thought great role model, wonderful. 07:29 I like that role model. 07:30 Very, very important and we as Christians, we have to be. 07:34 We are the Bible that somebody won't pick up, you know, 07:37 so my aunt was a wonderful influence in that regard, 07:40 my mother even though she died at 32 years of age 07:43 was a beautiful woman. 07:45 And I know that somewhere in her history 07:47 she'd made a movie, it was called "Ride him, Cowboy" 07:49 I don't know where it's out 07:51 or you know whatever became of it 07:53 but I know she had done that. 07:55 So these are things that showed me that it is not impossible 07:58 and in as much as God is no respecter of persons 08:01 if it's possible for them, it certainly possible for me. 08:04 And if God planted that seed in me 08:07 and I'm saying to your viewers if God plants a seed in you 08:09 and it's not contrary to the word of God, go for it. 08:13 I like that. 08:14 So it's not where you are but it's where you really want to be 08:17 and the window that we're looking out of 08:19 because there are people in tenements, 08:21 There are people in projects. 08:23 There are people that live by the bridge over the el 08:28 and close to the subway, 08:29 we're talking New York landmarks here. 08:31 That for every waking moment 08:33 their homes are shaking not by a dream but by a passing train. 08:37 And-- I know that, I did that. 08:39 So, you know, what I'm talking about? 08:41 Absolutely. I know that. 08:42 You can hear it in your mind. Absolutely. 08:44 See, and so but there are those 08:46 who think a movie is something I rent 08:49 or something I watch on television. 08:51 A song or something I purchase when I purchase a CD 08:53 not necessarily something I sing or something I write. 08:57 But you broke out of that caste system 09:00 and cause lights, camera, and action to happen in your life. 09:05 But before we get to the solely converting part of your life 09:09 because you know where you are is a miracle of God. 09:14 Absolutely. But it's not an accident. 09:17 You see, God didn't take you there 09:19 by circumstance but by plan. 09:21 Absolutely, but you said miracle. 09:24 You know when the first miracle occurred at that wedding, 09:27 Mary said something to those people 09:31 that had the water jars that is extremely important. 09:34 You must do exactly what God says. 09:38 In order for the miracle to occur, 09:40 you must do exactly what God says? 09:43 So I'm opened to miracles but I'm opened to them 09:47 only as much as the spirit walks me through them. 09:51 Okay, because there's other voices 09:52 that come in today and you know that. 09:54 So-- Oh, yeah. 09:56 But you got to know what the word of God says, 09:58 you know, in order for you to understand the voices. 10:03 Because a miracle outside of God's will maybe something 10:07 that causes you to feel thrilled but it short lived. 10:10 Absolutely. Living in Paris. 10:14 How did you get to Paris, Francine? 10:17 You know how you talked about people living within their boxes 10:21 and their paradigms, what they know. 10:24 I was planning a vacation, I was an account executive 10:28 with a New York City recruitment firm. 10:31 We provided major corporations 10:34 with their receptionists and their typists 10:36 and I can remember again role models. 10:39 I was working with two beautiful, 10:41 beautiful black women and they had big vision. 10:45 And I was planning this holiday 10:47 and thinking, now where do I go, okay. 10:49 Most people in my neighborhood if it was a holiday 10:53 went to Puerto Rico or they went to Bermuda. 10:56 I remember where I was standing 10:58 on the corner of 57th street and 5th avenue 11:00 when the woman uttered the words that changed my life. 11:03 She said, "Go to Paris, my dear." 11:08 It never occurred to me 11:10 as a black woman from the ghetto that I could. 11:13 But bang, she drop that seed and that came to fruition, 11:17 shortly thereafter I did go to Paris for the very first time 11:22 and my life has not been the same since. Wow. 11:25 It's quite a different world to have lunch in the Eiffel Tower 11:30 and the River Thames stand by at and look at the structure 11:33 of a world that's quite a bit older than New York City. 11:36 That's very true and I had the very good fortune, 11:39 you know, you got-- 11:40 we were slightly mixed up the River Seine. 11:42 That's it, okay. Yes, yes. 11:44 If we've been in Big Ben we would have done the Thames 11:47 but I remember God placed me in an apartment 11:52 where my view was the flying buttresses 11:54 of the Notre-Dame right on the River Seine. 11:57 So I looked out of my apartment, okay, 11:59 and I give all the glory to God. 12:00 I looked out at La Tour Eiffel, the Eiffel Tower. 12:04 Notre-Dame as I said. 12:07 I had San Jo Mandate play. 12:09 I had La Tour d'Argent 12:11 which is one of the finest restaurants in France. 12:13 And I had Louis Pion Dijon and the river, 12:16 you know, all outside my-- you know, 12:18 so I even then I realized the miracle that it was. 12:22 But, you know, dreams are wonderful things 12:27 as long as you just keep moving on them don't just sit on them. 12:30 You know, hatch that egg. I like that. 12:34 An egg is not meant to just-- what's the word incubate. 12:39 But the life comes when the egg is not just prepared 12:42 but it also is hatched. 12:44 The egg has to be broken, you know, 12:46 it looks beautiful when it's whole 12:48 but unless it's broken the life is just inside still. 12:52 It's like the sea, John, 12:53 you know, unless it goes into the ground 12:55 and it breaks up the true life can't come forth, 13:00 you know, and it's like a Christian, 13:01 you humble yourself before God and He brings out everything 13:05 that He's planted seed why didn't you 13:07 and I find that really exciting. 13:10 You know it's amazing when we think about 13:12 life on the inside and life on the outside 13:15 'cause for some people watching the program 13:17 and listening to the program they are trying to define life. 13:22 Let me just put this picture together. 13:24 Here you are in Paris, 13:25 you have flown the Koopa as it were of New York City. 13:29 You are in the midst of a grinding life 13:33 but a very prosperous life. 13:35 And then you are looking in the direction 13:38 that God wants you to go but you're not yet there. 13:40 You are a Christian. Hmm. 13:43 But you believe that conversion, 13:45 conversion is about to happen, walk us through that. 13:47 Well, you know, conversion that happened-- 13:50 I was always a Christian 13:52 and I really always like to point that out. 13:54 I always have had a need for God 13:56 even if I didn't understand His word. 13:58 I remember when I was first baptized in 14:00 into Concord Baptist Church 14:02 which you would know Marcy Avenue. 14:04 Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 14:06 That's where I was baptized. 14:08 I played basketball for that church. 14:09 Come on. Yeah, I sure did. 14:11 Oh, my goodness. Wow. 14:12 Well, I remember the date 14:14 it was the 5th of May in 1972 a Friday night 14:18 and I was baptized into that church. 14:21 You know, but God had another plan for my life, 14:24 you know, as a young adult I went to church 14:27 because I felt that need to go. 14:29 I remember I was given a Bible at that baptism 14:31 and while I didn't read everything instinctively, 14:34 you know, I felt the need to read it. 14:37 And I can remember 14:39 the only thing I really knew was the 23rd Psalm. 14:43 And I still have that Bible and those pages are yellow 14:47 because I would get up every morning 14:48 and I would read that because I knew it. 14:50 I then went on, you know, to different parts of the Bible 14:54 and I read even though 14:55 I didn't understand Revelation I read that. 14:57 But, you know, it's just-- 14:59 the conversion really happened in Australia, 15:03 the conversion to Seventh-day Adventism. 15:06 Because a friend found in her mailbox 15:09 a color brochure for an evangelistic campaign 15:13 entitled, "God on trial." 15:15 Now we both thought that was a very interesting name. 15:17 But she went along because she saw on that brochure 15:22 that you would find inner peace. 15:25 How many people today are looking for that? 15:28 Quite a few I believe. Yeah, quite a few people. 15:30 So she went along and I didn't go initially 15:32 because I was co-starring, 15:35 it sounds very big, I had a secondary lead 15:37 in a major theatrical production called Nine. 15:41 Nine had won the Tony Award on Broadway 15:43 and I was in the Sydney production of the show. 15:46 Now when that run ended 15:47 I went to some of these evangelistic evenings with her. 15:53 And the first one I went to-- 15:56 this man who interestingly enough was from New York City 15:59 and fluent in French, only got little history of that, okay. 16:03 This guy understood my New York psyche, 16:07 he understood my Francophile background, okay. 16:10 My love of France anything French. 16:12 He had a photographic memory 16:15 and a wonderful way of expounding on the word of God. 16:18 So the first night he talked about things 16:21 historic and prophesy. 16:23 The second night he talked about how astrology and numerology 16:28 and anything occult was contrary to the word of God. 16:31 How many Christians don't know that? 16:33 How many Christians are still walking around 16:36 talking about the fact that their star sign is this 16:39 or they're a Chinese horse or pig 16:41 or whatever the case maybe. 16:43 That's amazing the truth. 16:44 It's very, very true, 16:45 it is contrary to the word of God. 16:47 So I heard that, you know, I'm fine. 16:48 The third night which happened to have been my birthday, okay. 16:53 The 18th of May, the Sabbath message. 16:57 Now you have to know 16:59 I've just come out of the major theatrical production. 17:02 At this stage in my career I was poised 17:04 to become quite a big name in Australia. 17:07 They had, had some black stars one of which was quite prominent 17:11 and well known in the United States. 17:14 Chelsea Brown, years ago 17:15 used to be on Rowan and Martin's Laugh-in 17:17 and Chelsea Brown was there. 17:19 Chelsea, you know, they had the Chelsea season 17:21 there was another young lady that had come over with hair. 17:25 And she was-- they'd had the Marsha seasoned, 17:29 I mean she is re-seasoning, boys, 17:31 she is doing really well now. 17:33 And there was another young lady 17:34 out of Los Vegas by the name of Delilah. 17:37 And they were looking for a new black star 17:41 and I arrived with the press book 17:43 this thick from Paris it said, you know, 17:46 I could hold a tune and lots of pictures 17:49 it said I wore a designer gown very well 17:51 And I had the right agents they were prepared to push me. 17:55 And God said, "Ah, no." 17:58 He said, I want you to meet-- 17:59 Breaks on. That's right. 18:01 I want you to become a Seventh-day Adventist Christian 18:04 I was like, Ah, Lord, can we discuss this. 18:08 You know, first of all what is that? 18:10 It means, Francine, that you weren't-- 18:12 will, you will not work, 18:13 you will honor me and the Sabbath, okay. 18:16 And you'll not work from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. 18:19 I am like God, can we do this on a Monday night 18:23 'cause the theater is dark on Monday, He is like, no. 18:27 I struggled with that, I never went back to be the series 18:29 and to make a long story short I could not sleep 18:34 and I had to call that young pastor back and said, 18:36 I think you better come and talk to me. 18:38 I made my decision to be baptized 18:42 on the 10th of December 1988. 18:46 And on the 11th of March, 18:48 the following year I took the plunge. 18:52 Wow. Yeah. 18:53 Praise the Lord. Amen, you know. 18:55 I like the way you said that I took the plunge. 18:58 You know, it reminds me of the reminiscent story 19:00 in the bible of Naman, it was that plunge 19:02 that brought him out as a baby, 19:05 the new birth all embodied in that. 19:07 Absolutely, but he had to humble himself, 19:10 you know, in getting that dirty water, okay. 19:13 He really thought that Elijah was going to do 19:15 something entirely different and so did I 19:17 I mean, my plans were stardom, 19:20 I was going to stardom 19:21 and I didn't bother to learn how to type. 19:23 I always say to people because where I was going 19:26 people were going to do that for me, you see. 19:29 Well, God say, "Oh, yeah. 19:31 I got news for you." That's right. 19:34 And, you know that I like the way you mentioned that 19:36 because the water was muddy. 19:38 And sometimes the present circumstances of life are muddy. 19:42 But out of them can arise the phoenix 19:44 of that new birth, that baby in Christ. 19:47 But it had to be fearful, I mean, 19:49 you have a chapter in your book entitled, "Fear." 19:52 Tell us some of that fear 19:53 because there are people watching this program 19:54 that struggle with fear, they are fearful 19:57 of anything and everything. 19:59 But the Bible says, perfect love cast out all fear. 20:02 How did you get pass this, this hurdle of what you wanted 20:07 and then what God wanted? 20:08 There were some fear in there, talk about that. 20:10 There was definitely fear, you know, 20:12 when I decided to become a Seventh-day Adventist Christian 20:15 as a performer in Australia, 20:18 I jumped off a cliff in the dark, you know, 20:20 I didn't know where I was going to land 20:22 but I trusted God enough to know that the arms would be there. 20:26 I didn't know where I was going to land. 20:28 But the Bible says at least 365 times, fear not. 20:32 So even God knows we're going to fear. 20:35 So He just keeps revealing Himself, 20:39 you fear and then He shows up, okay. 20:42 And you then eventually learn to trust Him. 20:44 Yes, I feared what was going to happen to me as a performer 20:49 and surely my career dried up because people could only see 20:55 that one night of the week that I wasn't prepared to work. 20:57 Isn't that amazing? Oh, yeah. 20:59 It sounds like the Garden of Eden. 21:01 Satan focused Eve on that one fruit 21:03 and He says, is there anything you can do? 21:06 Go on. Yeah. 21:08 So like a horse with blinders people could not see, 21:11 you know, the other nights of the week 21:13 and my career did dry up but it was all part of God's plan. 21:16 You know, I did fear that, I feared man. 21:21 Fear of man is a terrible thing, you know, 21:23 but the word of God talks about 21:25 not letting the reproach of man stand in your way, its bondage. 21:30 So, yes, I feared what people would think of me if I did this. 21:35 And then I had to get over it because you see the God, 21:38 they're going to be mad at you 21:40 or unimpressed with you or God is. 21:42 Which one was I going to choose? 21:44 That you know, that's powerful thought 21:45 because when you live to impress God, 21:48 men will not always be impressed. 21:50 But the question is who do you want to impress? 21:52 Hallelujah. Okay. 21:53 At the end of the day I'm a God girl, you know, 21:56 and I want Him to be happy and pleased with what I do, 21:59 I want to be one of those trophies in His cases. 22:03 And people didn't understand, you know, 22:07 but as I read the word and as I stuck close to God, 22:11 it just made me stick like a baby 22:13 sticks close to their mother or their father, you know, 22:16 I just have to stick close to God in that way. 22:19 Test and trial, I mean here you are 22:22 you know that the river is drying up 22:24 for all the right reasons but its fearful. 22:27 But then comes along the test. 22:30 Oh, honey, the test. Tell me about the test? 22:32 There's a chapter in this book and I looked at that 22:34 tests, trials, and protection. Yes, yes, yes. 22:37 I mean, that's a unique title. 22:38 It is, you know, and it was inspired by situation 22:42 I was singing in the French Caribbean in Martinique. 22:45 I was headlining it was New Year's Eve 22:47 and folks were real happy, 22:49 there was a lot of champagne running that night. 22:51 And they had all been given little, little happy bags, 22:58 you know, so it handles sorts of little things in it 23:01 but one of the things was a pea shooter 23:03 with colored cardboard balls. 23:07 And, you know, they would be shooting these things, 23:08 you know, there was streamers and those things that you blow, 23:12 those little things that I don't know what they call? 23:14 Party favors. Those things, okay. 23:16 But they had these things and they would be 23:18 don't blowing these things but I was the target, okay. 23:22 Now they really liked me but they were happy, 23:24 and it was like let shoot the singer, okay. 23:26 But at the end of the night, I felt like I had been in a war 23:30 but I had to really maintain my composure. 23:34 Devil loves it when a Christian loses their cool 23:37 He's sitting there going, yes, yes, yes. 23:39 So I have to pray Lord Jesus, give me the strength, you know, 23:42 one of the things that I-- that God gave me, 23:45 He speaks to me in acronym and acrostic form. Okay. 23:48 He gave me the word, grace. G-R-A-C-E. 23:52 God Remedies and Calms Emotions. 23:57 Oh, a good one. It's huge, absolutely huge. 24:00 He tells me that people are taking the G out of the word 24:04 and they're trying to remedy and calm their own emotions, 24:08 it won't work without the great physician. 24:10 So I have to pray and pull on the strength of God 24:15 not to pick up a chair or table 24:18 and throw at the people shooting in balls, so-- 24:22 Tests, trials. 24:25 And Lord, I got to put my armor on 24:28 so that I can be shielded from the fiery darts 24:33 that include colored cardboard balls. 24:39 But now how does your prayer life fit into all these 24:42 because I know that you know, the transitions have taken place 24:45 you're still moving, you're still gifted, 24:46 you're still doing what you have been 24:48 equipped to do but now prayer. 24:51 Prayers where the oil comes from 24:52 and a car does not work without oil, okay. 24:56 I don't care how nice the car is it can be a Rolls-Royce. 24:59 It can be a Maserati, it can be-- 25:01 and I remember in Monte Carlo sitting, 25:04 you know, I worked there for six weeks. 25:05 And looking out at my balcony and the most pleb car you saw 25:10 was a BMW, that was the cheap car, okay. 25:13 I don't care how expensive the car is 25:17 if it doesn't have oil, it's not going anywhere. 25:19 Isn't that amazing? Mm-hmm. 25:21 A $3 bottle of oil can bring $150,000, 25:26 million dollar car to screeching halt. 25:27 But please note the digit that you chose 3, 25:31 father, sun and Holy Spirit without that oil, 25:34 without the oil of the spirit I don't operate. 25:37 Otherwise I'm operating on my own flesh and I get tired, okay. 25:41 So when I sit in prayer then I get the power that I need 25:46 and I just read in the Psalms, you know, 25:49 that God gives us the confidence and He gives us the power to go 25:55 where we need to go He'll energize us. 25:59 If you were to summarize who you are 26:01 because there are so many people 26:02 that are just in their cage, they're locked in. 26:04 If you were to summarize who Francine Bell is 26:08 who would you say you are? 26:09 I am appointed by God. 26:13 Based on Isaiah 61, you know, that says, 26:16 I'm appointed to preach the good news of the gospel etcetera. 26:19 And please go and read, Isaiah 61. 26:21 That's right. To open cages. 26:24 To let the people in this world the body of Christ 26:29 to let them know that it's okay to be who they are in Jesus. 26:34 They are unique on purpose, 26:36 they are not meant to conform and be like everybody else, 26:41 you have something to contribute to this world 26:43 and I want to encourage people to come out of the bondage 26:49 that fear and doubt and discouragement. 26:52 And all the little things that I address in my book 26:55 and in the upcoming DVD, I want them to know that 26:58 where the spirit of Christ is there is freedom. 27:01 So come forth from your cages in Jesus name. 27:05 How can I find this book? 27:07 I know you have an internet website what is that? 27:09 The website is heartext.com.au. 27:14 heartext.com.au for Australia. 27:19 You know, it's indeed a pleasure to have you here. 27:21 I know this has been a short program but I'm looking forward 27:24 to another opportunity to talk with you. 27:26 Prayer, fear, temptation, test, trials, protection, 27:29 loneliness, doubt, and discouragement. 27:32 But this book ends on a positive note 27:34 and indeed it is a privilege to know that 27:37 God works all things for the glory 27:40 and honor of His name, a blessing to have you here. 27:42 Thank you so much for having me. 27:44 You know friends, when we think about the pleasure of the Lord, 27:47 it is where God takes us. 27:49 But I want you to know whatever the issue, friends, 27:52 Jesus is always the answer. 27:54 Good to have you here today. |
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