Hello friends and
welcome to "Issues and Answers."
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My name is John
Lomacang and I'm very happy
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that you've
chosen to sit down today
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and join us for a
very eye opening program.
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I believe one that's
gonna catapult you to a place
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that you have not
dreamed of going before
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and to a destiny
that's just waiting for you
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to get on board and
follow the leading of the Lord.
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Our guest today is one who
has world traveled, world known
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and just to say a
few one who really knows
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what it's like
to catch the vision
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and follow the
leading of the Lord.
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So let's meet our
guest at this moment.
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Good to have you
here today, Francine.
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Thank you, John. Francine Bell.
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It's lovely to be
here. That's me, yeah.
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You know, somebody
must have said before
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your name rings a bell
once you have heard that before.
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Once or twice, yes.
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Now there are those who are
watching the program that says,
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"Hey, Francine, I know
her. I've met her before."
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But there's
somebody watching the program
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that says, "Francine, who?"
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So let's for their benefit
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I'll let our viewers and
listeners know who you are
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and give us a little background
on who this woman of God is?
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Hmm, she is first and
foremost a woman of God.
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Daughter of the king, so
that means I'm royalty. Amen.
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And I was born and
raised in Brooklyn, New York.
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My mom died when I
was seven years of age.
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So my grandmother Elizabeth
who was a wonderful godly woman
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brought us up with a
foundation of the word of God.
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I am the daughter
of a wonderful father
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who wasn't around very
much but when he was there
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he really
showed his love for us.
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And he was in the Merchant
Marines and in the Navy.
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I'm one of when you
count the house and holes 13,
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I always say to
people I've got to take out
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a pencil and a paper
to get them all down.
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But it's been great
to be a part of family
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that is a special family.
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I was a music major in New York.
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I went to the school,
well, interestingly enough
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I found that I went to your
wife's junior high school. Okay.
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Yes, so that was
wonderful bit of trivia.
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So that was
something that we share.
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And in high school I went to the
high school of music and art,
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I was a voice major there
and many people would know that,
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that school was part of
the school of performing arts
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which gave us the
TV series, the movie
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and the stage
production of fame.
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Okay, that's right.
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Being a native
New York, I'm familiar
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with all of those landmarks
of schools in New York City.
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And, no, we did not
dance on the top of taxies,
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that's what they
tell in the movie.
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I know, I can
imagine New York City
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there are so many
taxies they wouldn't dare
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let you dance on
the top of their taxies.
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Not these days
anyway, no. All right.
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You have quite a story,
you mentioned just a moment ago
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you're from
Brooklyn but I believe firmly
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and I think this is
embodied in your entire story,
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that where are you from
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does not necessarily
equal where you're heading.
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By no means.
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And you've written a book
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entitled
"Lights! Camera! Action!"
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Now I've read much of this book
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and I know a lot
about your background.
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But Lights! Camera! Action!
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People connect that right away
to show business. Absolutely.
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Walk us down that path
because where you are today
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is not where you've always been.
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No, I've always
been a drama queen.
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Okay. My family would say that.
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But that title
was inspired by God.
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And it has to do with, you know,
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my love of the arts,
my involvement in the arts
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and the importance that
the arts play in society.
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And God has his
people strategically placed
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and I'm one of those
that He's got planted
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in the show business industry.
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So when it came time to write
a book, I didn't plan on it,
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you know, it was something that
God said, "Sit down and do."
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And I have to tell you,
John, I stayed on my face a lot,
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you know, because Lord,
I don't know how to do this
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but He showed me how?
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And it's a book
that while it comes from
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a show business perspective
is designed for anyone
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I think I say on
the back of the book,
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unless your job is hermit,
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the principles in this
book are certainly for you.
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If you have to get
up on a day to day basis
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and get on to the stage of life,
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then certainly these
principles are for you.
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You know, I like that
because a lot of people say,
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well, why can't I
accomplish something
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that is seen in the
eyes of the world as great.
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But you did-- you
don't believe that,
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you believe that everyone is
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a package designed
specifically by God,
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you're unique, there's no
two Francine Bells in the world.
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I'll say to people, the
cemetery is the terrible place
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their dreams that would never--
reality songs never written.
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Inventions that
never came to fruition
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because people thought about it
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but didn't think that
they could accomplish it.
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But now looking out
of your Brooklyn window,
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I want you to take us to
Brooklyn for a little bit
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because I'm from Brooklyn.
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I know it's exciting.
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I mean this makes
a difference to you.
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You know, I'm not too far
from where you were raised
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right there in
Bed-Stuy and Clinton Hill,
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Marcy Projects,
Myrtle Avenue downtown,
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you know, the
whole kit and caboodle
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you were in some of
the same places that I was.
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But to have having
been a world traveler
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one who even
lives in Australia. Yes.
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Okay, how does a Brooklyn born,
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how a young lady
becomes an Australian resident
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having lived in Paris?
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Having been in not
only the movie industry
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and the music industry but
also the modeling industry.
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There's somebody
watching this program
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I believe from
Brooklyn, New York
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right now saying, what?
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Somebody from
Brooklyn did all of that.
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Walk us through
that for a brief moment.
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I've got an attitude that says,
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if God calls me to it,
He'll show me how to do it, ow.
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And I always add the ow because
I want people to remember it.
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I like the
attitude in that. Yes, yeah.
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You know, I think if the
seed is planted in my mind
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and it's according to
the word of God, you know,
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it doesn't say there is no
passage and verse that says,
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you can't do this,
then I think why not?
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And, you know, a
lot of it has to do
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with the people
that influence our lives.
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Do I had an aunt that, I
still have her, praise God
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that was a beautiful
glamorous woman, you know,
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when people were
on the welfare lines
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my aunt had the vision to
know that you could wear fur
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and when it was
politically correct.
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And when, you know,
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people were
wondering how they will make--
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they were going
to make ends meet
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she was driving a cadillac
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and she was traveling
to places like Israel.
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And, you know, I just thought
great role model, wonderful.
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I like that role model.
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Very, very important and we
as Christians, we have to be.
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We are the Bible that somebody
won't pick up, you know,
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so my aunt was a wonderful
influence in that regard,
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my mother even though
she died at 32 years of age
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was a beautiful woman.
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And I know that
somewhere in her history
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she'd made a movie, it
was called "Ride him, Cowboy"
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I don't know where it's out
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or you know
whatever became of it
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but I know she had done that.
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So these are things that showed
me that it is not impossible
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and in as much as God
is no respecter of persons
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if it's possible for them,
it certainly possible for me.
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And if God
planted that seed in me
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and I'm saying to your viewers
if God plants a seed in you
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and it's not contrary to
the word of God, go for it.
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I like that.
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So it's not where you are but
it's where you really want to be
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and the window that
we're looking out of
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because there are
people in tenements,
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There are people in projects.
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There are people that
live by the bridge over the el
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and close to the subway,
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we're talking New
York landmarks here.
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That for every waking moment
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their homes are shaking not by
a dream but by a passing train.
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And-- I know that, I did that.
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So, you know,
what I'm talking about?
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Absolutely. I know that.
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You can hear it in
your mind. Absolutely.
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See, and so but there are those
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who think a movie
is something I rent
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or something I
watch on television.
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A song or something I
purchase when I purchase a CD
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not necessarily something
I sing or something I write.
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But you broke out
of that caste system
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and cause lights, camera, and
action to happen in your life.
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But before we get to the solely
converting part of your life
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because you know where
you are is a miracle of God.
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Absolutely. But
it's not an accident.
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You see, God
didn't take you there
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by circumstance but by plan.
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Absolutely, but
you said miracle.
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You know when the first miracle
occurred at that wedding,
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Mary said
something to those people
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that had the water jars
that is extremely important.
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You must do
exactly what God says.
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In order for the
miracle to occur,
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you must do
exactly what God says?
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So I'm opened to
miracles but I'm opened to them
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only as much as the
spirit walks me through them.
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Okay, because
there's other voices
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that come in
today and you know that.
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So-- Oh, yeah.
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But you got to know
what the word of God says,
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you know, in order for
you to understand the voices.
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Because a miracle outside
of God's will maybe something
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that causes you to feel
thrilled but it short lived.
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Absolutely. Living in Paris.
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How did you get
to Paris, Francine?
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You know how you talked about
people living within their boxes
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and their
paradigms, what they know.
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I was planning a vacation,
I was an account executive
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with a New York
City recruitment firm.
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We provided major corporations
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with their
receptionists and their typists
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and I can
remember again role models.
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I was working
with two beautiful,
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beautiful black women
and they had big vision.
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And I was planning this holiday
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and thinking, now
where do I go, okay.
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Most people in my
neighborhood if it was a holiday
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went to Puerto Rico
or they went to Bermuda.
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I remember where I was standing
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on the corner of
57th street and 5th avenue
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when the woman uttered the
words that changed my life.
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She said, "Go
to Paris, my dear."
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It never occurred to me
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as a black woman from
the ghetto that I could.
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But bang, she drop that
seed and that came to fruition,
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shortly thereafter I did go
to Paris for the very first time
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and my life has not
been the same since. Wow.
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It's quite a different world to
have lunch in the Eiffel Tower
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and the River Thames stand
by at and look at the structure
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of a world that's quite a
bit older than New York City.
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That's very true and I
had the very good fortune,
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you know, you got--
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we were slightly
mixed up the River Seine.
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That's it, okay. Yes, yes.
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If we've been in Big Ben
we would have done the Thames
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but I remember God
placed me in an apartment
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where my view was
the flying buttresses
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of the Notre-Dame
right on the River Seine.
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So I looked out of
my apartment, okay,
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and I give all the glory to God.
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I looked out at La Tour
Eiffel, the Eiffel Tower.
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Notre-Dame as I said.
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I had San Jo Mandate play.
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I had La Tour d'Argent
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which is one of the
finest restaurants in France.
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And I had Louis
Pion Dijon and the river,
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you know, all
outside my-- you know,
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so I even then I realized
the miracle that it was.
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But, you know,
dreams are wonderful things
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as long as you just keep moving
on them don't just sit on them.
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You know, hatch
that egg. I like that.
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An egg is not meant to
just-- what's the word incubate.
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But the life comes when
the egg is not just prepared
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but it also is hatched.
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The egg has to
be broken, you know,
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it looks
beautiful when it's whole
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but unless it's broken
the life is just inside still.
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It's like the sea, John,
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you know, unless it
goes into the ground
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and it breaks up the
true life can't come forth,
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you know, and
it's like a Christian,
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you humble yourself before
God and He brings out everything
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that He's planted
seed why didn't you
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and I find that really exciting.
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You know it's
amazing when we think about
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life on the inside
and life on the outside
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'cause for some
people watching the program
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and listening to the program
they are trying to define life.
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Let me just put
this picture together.
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Here you are in Paris,
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you have flown the Koopa
as it were of New York City.
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You are in the
midst of a grinding life
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but a very prosperous life.
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And then you are
looking in the direction
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that God wants you to go
but you're not yet there.
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You are a Christian. Hmm.
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But you believe that conversion,
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conversion is about to
happen, walk us through that.
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Well, you know,
conversion that happened--
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I was always a Christian
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and I really always
like to point that out.
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I always have had a need for God
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even if I didn't
understand His word.
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I remember when I
was first baptized in
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into Concord Baptist Church
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which you would
know Marcy Avenue.
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Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's where I was baptized.
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I played
basketball for that church.
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Come on. Yeah, I sure did.
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Oh, my goodness. Wow.
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Well, I remember the date
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it was the 5th of May
in 1972 a Friday night
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and I was
baptized into that church.
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You know, but God had
another plan for my life,
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you know, as a young
adult I went to church
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because I felt that need to go.
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I remember I was given
a Bible at that baptism
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and while I didn't read
everything instinctively,
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you know, I felt
the need to read it.
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And I can remember
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the only thing I really
knew was the 23rd Psalm.
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And I still have that
Bible and those pages are yellow
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because I would
get up every morning
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and I would read
that because I knew it.
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I then went on, you know,
to different parts of the Bible
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and I read even though
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I didn't understand
Revelation I read that.
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But, you know, it's just--
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the conversion really
happened in Australia,
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the conversion to
Seventh-day Adventism.
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Because a friend
found in her mailbox
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a color brochure for
an evangelistic campaign
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entitled, "God on trial."
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Now we both thought that
was a very interesting name.
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But she went along
because she saw on that brochure
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that you would find inner peace.
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How many people
today are looking for that?
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Quite a few I believe.
Yeah, quite a few people.
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So she went along
and I didn't go initially
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because I was co-starring,
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it sounds very big,
I had a secondary lead
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in a major theatrical
production called Nine.
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Nine had won the
Tony Award on Broadway
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and I was in the
Sydney production of the show.
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Now when that run ended
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I went to some of these
evangelistic evenings with her.
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And the first one I went to--
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this man who interestingly
enough was from New York City
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and fluent in French, only got
little history of that, okay.
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This guy
understood my New York psyche,
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he understood my
Francophile background, okay.
00:16:07.00\00:16:10.04
My love of
France anything French.
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He had a photographic memory
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and a wonderful way of
expounding on the word of God.
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So the first night
he talked about things
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historic and prophesy.
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The second night he talked about
how astrology and numerology
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and anything occult was
contrary to the word of God.
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How many
Christians don't know that?
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How many Christians
are still walking around
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talking about the fact
that their star sign is this
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or they're a
Chinese horse or pig
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or whatever the case maybe.
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That's amazing the truth.
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It's very, very true,
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it is contrary
to the word of God.
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So I heard that,
you know, I'm fine.
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The third night which happened
to have been my birthday, okay.
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The 18th of May,
the Sabbath message.
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Now you have to know
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I've just come out of the
major theatrical production.
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At this stage in
my career I was poised
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to become quite a
big name in Australia.
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They had, had some black stars
one of which was quite prominent
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and well known in
the United States.
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Chelsea Brown, years ago
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used to be on Rowan
and Martin's Laugh-in
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and Chelsea Brown was there.
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Chelsea, you know,
they had the Chelsea season
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there was another young lady
that had come over with hair.
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And she was-- they'd
had the Marsha seasoned,
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I mean she is
re-seasoning, boys,
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she is doing really well now.
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And there was another young lady
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out of Los Vegas by
the name of Delilah.
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And they were
looking for a new black star
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and I arrived
with the press book
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this thick from
Paris it said, you know,
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I could hold a tune
and lots of pictures
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it said I wore a
designer gown very well
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And I had the right agents
they were prepared to push me.
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And God said, "Ah, no."
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He said, I want you to meet--
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Breaks on. That's right.
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I want you to become a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian
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I was like, Ah,
Lord, can we discuss this.
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You know, first
of all what is that?
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It means,
Francine, that you weren't--
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will, you will not work,
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you will honor me
and the Sabbath, okay.
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And you'll not work from Friday
sundown to Saturday sundown.
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I am like God, can we
do this on a Monday night
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'cause the theater is
dark on Monday, He is like, no.
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I struggled with that, I
never went back to be the series
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and to make a long
story short I could not sleep
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and I had to call that
young pastor back and said,
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I think you better
come and talk to me.
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I made my
decision to be baptized
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on the 10th of December 1988.
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And on the 11th of March,
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the following
year I took the plunge.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Praise the Lord. Amen, you know.
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I like the way you
said that I took the plunge.
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You know, it reminds me
of the reminiscent story
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in the bible of
Naman, it was that plunge
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that brought him out as a baby,
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the new birth
all embodied in that.
00:19:05.67\00:19:07.31
Absolutely, but he
had to humble himself,
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you know, in getting
that dirty water, okay.
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He really thought
that Elijah was going to do
00:19:13.17\00:19:15.22
something entirely
different and so did I
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I mean, my plans were stardom,
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I was going to stardom
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and I didn't bother
to learn how to type.
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I always say to people
because where I was going
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people were going to
do that for me, you see.
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Well, God say, "Oh, yeah.
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I got news for
you." That's right.
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And, you know that I like
the way you mentioned that
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because the water was muddy.
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And sometimes the present
circumstances of life are muddy.
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But out of them
can arise the phoenix
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of that new birth,
that baby in Christ.
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But it had to
be fearful, I mean,
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you have a chapter in
your book entitled, "Fear."
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Tell us some of that fear
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because there are
people watching this program
00:19:53.43\00:19:54.69
that struggle with
fear, they are fearful
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of anything and everything.
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But the Bible says,
perfect love cast out all fear.
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How did you get pass this,
this hurdle of what you wanted
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and then what God wanted?
00:20:07.49\00:20:08.67
There were some fear
in there, talk about that.
00:20:08.70\00:20:10.82
There was
definitely fear, you know,
00:20:10.85\00:20:12.41
when I decided to become a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian
00:20:12.44\00:20:15.23
as a performer in Australia,
00:20:15.26\00:20:17.97
I jumped off a cliff
in the dark, you know,
00:20:18.00\00:20:20.84
I didn't know
where I was going to land
00:20:20.87\00:20:22.91
but I trusted God enough to know
that the arms would be there.
00:20:22.94\00:20:26.15
I didn't know where
I was going to land.
00:20:26.18\00:20:28.26
But the Bible says at
least 365 times, fear not.
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So even God knows
we're going to fear.
00:20:32.65\00:20:35.29
So He just keeps
revealing Himself,
00:20:35.32\00:20:39.73
you fear and then
He shows up, okay.
00:20:39.76\00:20:42.11
And you then
eventually learn to trust Him.
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Yes, I feared what was going
to happen to me as a performer
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and surely my career dried
up because people could only see
00:20:49.33\00:20:55.27
that one night of the week
that I wasn't prepared to work.
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Isn't that amazing? Oh, yeah.
00:20:57.80\00:20:59.39
It sounds like
the Garden of Eden.
00:20:59.42\00:21:01.23
Satan focused
Eve on that one fruit
00:21:01.26\00:21:03.33
and He says, is
there anything you can do?
00:21:03.36\00:21:06.00
Go on. Yeah.
00:21:06.03\00:21:07.98
So like a horse with
blinders people could not see,
00:21:08.01\00:21:11.56
you know, the
other nights of the week
00:21:11.59\00:21:12.98
and my career did dry up but
it was all part of God's plan.
00:21:13.01\00:21:16.32
You know, I did
fear that, I feared man.
00:21:16.35\00:21:21.28
Fear of man is a
terrible thing, you know,
00:21:21.31\00:21:23.89
but the word of God talks about
00:21:23.92\00:21:25.46
not letting the reproach of man
stand in your way, its bondage.
00:21:25.49\00:21:30.20
So, yes, I feared what people
would think of me if I did this.
00:21:30.23\00:21:35.72
And then I had to get over
it because you see the God,
00:21:35.75\00:21:38.88
they're going to be mad at you
00:21:38.91\00:21:40.17
or unimpressed
with you or God is.
00:21:40.20\00:21:42.50
Which one was I going to choose?
00:21:42.53\00:21:44.86
That you know,
that's powerful thought
00:21:44.89\00:21:45.92
because when you
live to impress God,
00:21:45.95\00:21:48.67
men will not
always be impressed.
00:21:48.70\00:21:50.93
But the question is
who do you want to impress?
00:21:50.96\00:21:52.56
Hallelujah. Okay.
00:21:52.59\00:21:53.88
At the end of the day
I'm a God girl, you know,
00:21:53.91\00:21:56.67
and I want Him to be happy
and pleased with what I do,
00:21:56.70\00:21:59.69
I want to be one of
those trophies in His cases.
00:21:59.72\00:22:03.85
And people didn't
understand, you know,
00:22:03.88\00:22:07.35
but as I read the word
and as I stuck close to God,
00:22:07.38\00:22:11.26
it just made me
stick like a baby
00:22:11.29\00:22:13.12
sticks close to their mother
or their father, you know,
00:22:13.15\00:22:16.55
I just have to stick
close to God in that way.
00:22:16.58\00:22:19.93
Test and trial,
I mean here you are
00:22:19.96\00:22:22.08
you know that the
river is drying up
00:22:22.11\00:22:24.95
for all the right
reasons but its fearful.
00:22:24.98\00:22:27.88
But then comes along the test.
00:22:27.91\00:22:30.10
Oh, honey, the test.
Tell me about the test?
00:22:30.13\00:22:32.12
There's a chapter in
this book and I looked at that
00:22:32.15\00:22:34.54
tests, trials, and
protection. Yes, yes, yes.
00:22:34.57\00:22:37.73
I mean, that's a unique title.
00:22:37.76\00:22:38.79
It is, you know, and it
was inspired by situation
00:22:38.82\00:22:42.58
I was singing in the
French Caribbean in Martinique.
00:22:42.61\00:22:45.24
I was headlining
it was New Year's Eve
00:22:45.27\00:22:47.49
and folks were real happy,
00:22:47.52\00:22:49.54
there was a lot of
champagne running that night.
00:22:49.57\00:22:51.62
And they had all been
given little, little happy bags,
00:22:51.65\00:22:58.33
you know, so it handles
sorts of little things in it
00:22:58.36\00:23:01.04
but one of the
things was a pea shooter
00:23:01.07\00:23:03.39
with colored cardboard balls.
00:23:03.42\00:23:07.03
And, you know, they
would be shooting these things,
00:23:07.06\00:23:08.77
you know, there was streamers
and those things that you blow,
00:23:08.80\00:23:12.34
those little things that
I don't know what they call?
00:23:12.37\00:23:14.44
Party favors.
Those things, okay.
00:23:14.61\00:23:16.20
But they had these
things and they would be
00:23:16.23\00:23:18.25
don't blowing these things
but I was the target, okay.
00:23:18.28\00:23:22.12
Now they really liked
me but they were happy,
00:23:22.15\00:23:24.22
and it was like let
shoot the singer, okay.
00:23:24.25\00:23:26.26
But at the end of the night,
I felt like I had been in a war
00:23:26.29\00:23:30.40
but I had to really
maintain my composure.
00:23:30.43\00:23:34.86
Devil loves it when a
Christian loses their cool
00:23:34.89\00:23:37.36
He's sitting there
going, yes, yes, yes.
00:23:37.39\00:23:39.70
So I have to pray Lord Jesus,
give me the strength, you know,
00:23:39.73\00:23:42.21
one of the things
that I-- that God gave me,
00:23:42.24\00:23:45.35
He speaks to me in
acronym and acrostic form. Okay.
00:23:45.38\00:23:48.83
He gave me the
word, grace. G-R-A-C-E.
00:23:48.86\00:23:52.95
God Remedies and Calms Emotions.
00:23:52.98\00:23:57.79
Oh, a good one. It's
huge, absolutely huge.
00:23:57.82\00:24:00.58
He tells me that people are
taking the G out of the word
00:24:00.61\00:24:04.35
and they're trying to remedy
and calm their own emotions,
00:24:04.38\00:24:08.19
it won't work
without the great physician.
00:24:08.22\00:24:10.74
So I have to pray and
pull on the strength of God
00:24:10.77\00:24:15.51
not to pick up a chair or table
00:24:15.54\00:24:18.58
and throw at the
people shooting in balls, so--
00:24:18.61\00:24:22.91
Tests, trials.
00:24:22.94\00:24:25.42
And Lord, I got
to put my armor on
00:24:25.45\00:24:28.28
so that I can be
shielded from the fiery darts
00:24:28.31\00:24:33.81
that include
colored cardboard balls.
00:24:33.84\00:24:39.18
But now how does your
prayer life fit into all these
00:24:39.21\00:24:42.44
because I know that you know,
the transitions have taken place
00:24:42.47\00:24:45.25
you're still
moving, you're still gifted,
00:24:45.28\00:24:46.68
you're still
doing what you have been
00:24:46.71\00:24:48.70
equipped to do but now prayer.
00:24:48.73\00:24:51.29
Prayers where the oil comes from
00:24:51.32\00:24:52.94
and a car does not
work without oil, okay.
00:24:52.97\00:24:56.04
I don't care how nice the
car is it can be a Rolls-Royce.
00:24:56.07\00:24:59.86
It can be a
Maserati, it can be--
00:24:59.89\00:25:01.83
and I remember in
Monte Carlo sitting,
00:25:01.86\00:25:03.98
you know, I worked
there for six weeks.
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And looking out at my balcony
and the most pleb car you saw
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was a BMW, that was
the cheap car, okay.
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I don't care how
expensive the car is
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if it doesn't have oil,
it's not going anywhere.
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Isn't that amazing? Mm-hmm.
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A $3 bottle of oil
can bring $150,000,
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million dollar car
to screeching halt.
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But please note the
digit that you chose 3,
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father, sun and Holy
Spirit without that oil,
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without the oil of the
spirit I don't operate.
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Otherwise I'm operating on my
own flesh and I get tired, okay.
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So when I sit in prayer
then I get the power that I need
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and I just read in
the Psalms, you know,
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that God gives us the confidence
and He gives us the power to go
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where we need to
go He'll energize us.
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If you were to
summarize who you are
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because there are so many people
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that are just in their
cage, they're locked in.
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If you were to
summarize who Francine Bell is
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who would you say you are?
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I am appointed by God.
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Based on Isaiah 61,
you know, that says,
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I'm appointed to preach the good
news of the gospel etcetera.
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And please go
and read, Isaiah 61.
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That's right. To open cages.
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To let the people in
this world the body of Christ
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to let them know that it's okay
to be who they are in Jesus.
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They are unique on purpose,
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they are not meant to conform
and be like everybody else,
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you have something to
contribute to this world
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and I want to encourage people
to come out of the bondage
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that fear and
doubt and discouragement.
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And all the little
things that I address in my book
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and in the upcoming
DVD, I want them to know that
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where the spirit of
Christ is there is freedom.
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So come forth from
your cages in Jesus name.
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How can I find this book?
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I know you have an
internet website what is that?
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The website is heartext.com.au.
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heartext.com.au for Australia.
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You know, it's indeed a
pleasure to have you here.
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I know this has been a short
program but I'm looking forward
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to another
opportunity to talk with you.
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Prayer, fear, temptation,
test, trials, protection,
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loneliness, doubt,
and discouragement.
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But this book
ends on a positive note
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and indeed it is a
privilege to know that
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God works all
things for the glory
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and honor of His name, a
blessing to have you here.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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You know friends, when we think
about the pleasure of the Lord,
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it is where God takes us.
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But I want you to know
whatever the issue, friends,
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Jesus is always the answer.
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Good to have you here today.
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