Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Jeff Zaremsky
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000293
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00:31 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn.
00:32 And welcome again to "Issues and Answers." 00:35 Today, our issue is going to be "Seeing Jesus as the Fulfillment 00:40 of all of the Biblical Feast of the Old Testament." 00:45 And I'm really excited about our guest 00:48 who is going to be joining us. 00:49 And before I introduce him, 00:51 let me give you the scripture from Paul's writings to the-- 00:54 His first letter to the Corinthians 00:56 and this is Chapter 5:7. 00:59 And Paul says, "Purge the old leaven that you may be fresh, 01:05 uncontaminated if you will for Christ, 01:10 our Passover lamb has been sacrificed." 01:13 So Paul saw Jesus Christ as our Passover lamb. 01:17 And we have with us today Jeff Zaremsky. 01:21 And, Jeff, we are excited that you've come back. 01:24 It's good, good to be here. 01:26 Now you are the president of Jewish Heritage. 01:28 You're also as I said before. 01:31 I don't know what to call you, Rabbi Teacher or pastor. 01:34 But you have-- You call me Jeff. 01:35 Call you Jeff? 01:37 You have two congregations, 01:38 one in Saint Petersburg, Florida and the other in-- 01:42 New Port Richey. New Port Richey. 01:44 And this is called Beth-El Shalom. That's right. 01:48 "Beth" meaning house, "EL" God 01:51 and "Shalom" peace. That's right. 01:52 So this is the house of God, our peace. 01:56 That's right. Okay. 01:57 We are excited that you're here 01:58 to talk to us today about a Biblical Feasts. 02:02 Do you in-- Since you are reaching out 02:05 and your ministry is to Jews. Right. 02:09 Do you keep the feasts at your church? 02:13 We don't keep them. Okay. 02:16 We do utilize them, we do use them, 02:19 we do observe them with our eyes and our ears and our studying. 02:25 We do enjoy them and again, remember them. Okay. 02:31 But we don't keep them. All right. 02:33 There's a fine line distinction, but a very important one 02:35 which we'll be talking about throughout the show here. 02:37 So we do utilize them. 02:40 Because it's a wonderful way of teaching 02:41 like you just introduced, teaching Jesus. Yes. 02:44 Because He is the fulfillment of them all. 02:47 And so if we rip out that whole section of the Bible 02:50 and forget about that then we are losing a whole lot of the-- 02:57 The essence and the framework of Jesus' foundation. 03:01 It's like we can build a house and so yes, necessarily, 03:05 technically need the blueprints anymore. 03:08 But having those blueprints around, 03:09 I don't know if you've ever used them. 03:10 Sometimes I'll pull them out, when we want to do 03:12 some electrical or some plumbing 03:13 or something happens, something breaks, 03:15 you need to find where the originals are 03:17 and it still gives you a good understanding 03:20 of what's behind the walls and where everything is. 03:23 And so you know the house better by having-- 03:25 Still having the blueprints, technically you don't need them, 03:28 but still having them really helps you 03:30 to understand the house a whole lot better. 03:32 Okay, so what we want to very clearly 03:36 make known today is that we're not here 03:40 to try to say that you should keep 03:43 or must keep the feasts of the Old Testament. 03:46 Right. In fact-- 03:47 You can't, you can't. 03:48 You can't. Right. 03:49 If someone wanted to keep the feasts, 03:52 keep it like the Bible says, the letter of the word. 03:56 For three of them, three out of the seven 03:58 we'd have to go to Jerusalem. 04:00 And which is okay, you know, 04:01 if that's what God said then that's what we should do, 04:03 but then when we got there we had to sacrifice, 04:05 we'd have to sacrifice animals. 04:07 And it gives a specific number 04:09 and types and everything like that. 04:10 Well, people can say, "Well, Jesus is now our sacrifice." 04:13 Like you read. Well, that's fine, He is. 04:15 But then we're not exactly keeping it 04:17 exactly as it said to do. 04:19 We are spiritualizing it 04:21 and we are applying Jesus as those sacrifices. 04:24 And so once we start applying Jesus as those sacrifices 04:27 then we're not doing exactly what it said, 04:29 we're doing the fulfillment of what it's-- 04:31 by applying Him to it, but we're not actually doing it. 04:35 Okay, so let me make sure that 04:36 we understand exactly what you just said 04:38 is that we cannot keep the feast 04:42 because we'd all have to be going to Jerusalem for-- 04:44 at least three of them but furthermore 04:47 we would have to reinstitute the sacrificial system 04:50 which we know has come to an end that Jesus is the end of it all. 04:55 He is the fulfillment, 04:57 the filling to the fullest of this. 04:59 So what you're saying is that when you look to the feasts 05:03 at your congregation that what you're doing 05:06 is looking at it as the blueprint to see this is-- 05:10 Who Jesus Christ, this is all that He's doing 05:13 and you're showing the fulfillment. That's right. 05:15 So basically when you-- Would you say then that 05:20 because some of us don't-- 05:23 I mean, you know, there's some-- I'll just be really frank. 05:26 There is you know a movement that's going on with futurists 05:31 who have the futurists interpretations of Revelation. 05:34 And they believe that the feasts days 05:37 have to be celebrated. 05:38 They believe that the sacrificial system 05:41 will be reinstated before Jesus returns. 05:43 The temple has to be rebuilt and take out the tomb of the rock, 05:46 the mosque there and build the temple there, 05:48 so that that can be done, right. 05:51 And when we run into these people 05:53 and some of what they've misconstrued in scripture, 05:56 we all kind of, oops. Right. 05:58 You know, we don't want-- And we want to make sure 06:01 that everyone is understanding us today 06:02 that we're not saying anything like that. 06:05 A great study for those people and for all of us. 06:07 You just take it in congruence, 06:09 look up the word Jerusalem, look up the word temple, 06:13 look up the word sanctuary, everywhere in the New Testament. 06:17 And every single time, group those together, 06:21 make your groupings, it applies to several things. 06:24 They apply to either Jesus. 06:26 Jesus is always the temple or the sanctuary 06:30 or Jerusalem is always the New Jerusalem. 06:32 I mean, listen to gospels that's saying 06:34 disciples went to Jerusalem. 06:35 I'm talking about the literal Jerusalem 06:37 that was there in His day and it's same with the temple, 06:40 but then after that it's always the New Jerusalem, 06:42 the heavenly temple, Jesus as the temple 06:45 and then our body as the temple, 06:48 all throughout the New Testament. 06:49 Those are the only ways. 06:50 Those words are used, those three words. 06:52 Jerusalem, Sanctuary and Temple. 06:55 And so there is no basis anywhere in that--- 06:57 In the Bible for futurism. Okay. 07:01 Now, what are some of the benefits? 07:05 Especially, when you are-- 07:06 I know we talk in one of the early programs 07:09 how you have made your church more like a synagogue 07:14 to meet the cultural needs of the Jewish people 07:19 that you're trying to win to Jesus Christ. 07:21 Some of the great benefits that we miss out on, 07:23 if we just throw it away and ignore them 07:25 and forget about that whole section of the Bible 07:27 which is pretty big section of the Bible. 07:28 There are a lot of benefits. 07:29 We can share one other things, Shelly, with the-- 07:32 How we can know which one, 07:34 which laws in the Jewish counting? 07:37 613 laws in the Torah, 07:40 in the first five books of Moses. 07:42 So now do all of them still apply till today? 07:45 And if not, how do we know which ones do. 07:47 Are all of them thrown out? Are all nailed to the cross? 07:50 What-- How we do know? 07:52 And how can we distinguish that the Ten Commandments still apply 07:54 and the health principle still apply? 07:57 But circumcision doesn't and, you know, how can we know? 08:00 Is there a parallel? 08:02 I think there's a very simple formula 08:04 for being able to delineate for 613 commandments. 08:07 Which ones still apply today? 08:09 Which ones are eternal, last forever 08:13 and which ones are universal apply to all people 08:17 and then which ones are not? Very simple. 08:19 If the law was there in the Garden of Eden before sin. 08:26 And if the law continue to be an existent after sin 08:30 and if the law will still be there in heaven, 08:33 then it has to be those three criteria 08:34 that it's eternal before time, during time, after time, 08:39 before sin, during sin and after sin and universal 08:42 because it was given to Adam and Eve, the parents of mankind. 08:45 So apply to all humanity. 08:47 Well, we see the Ten Commandments 08:48 were right there in the Garden of Eden. 08:50 Maybe not on storm, but they were there. 08:52 You weren't allowed to kill. 08:53 And Eve gave her husband the poisonous fruit, 08:56 she killed him and she committed suicide in a sense 08:58 and Adam chosen to. 09:00 They stole, they coveted, 09:02 they took what didn't belong to them. 09:04 The Sabbath obviously was there in the Garden of Eden, 09:06 it mentions it being there. 09:07 So the Ten Commandments we obviously see honoring God, 09:10 having no other God, they made God, 09:11 Satan their God by listening to Him. 09:13 So the Ten Commandments 09:14 are obviously there in the Garden of Eden. 09:16 Did God say in the Garden of Eden 09:18 what they could eat and what they couldn't eat? 09:19 Yes. Yeah. 09:20 So the principles of God having the ability to tell us 09:23 what to eat and what to not eat are there from the beginning. 09:26 And it was even more restricted, not to eat from this tree 09:28 and really just fruits and grains at that point. 09:31 So that part is still under God dominion 09:34 for all people universal and eternal. 09:38 Now were circumcision there? 09:40 No, it's not mentioned for about 2,000 years till Abraham, 09:46 after it's over 2,000 years, Noah, Methuselah, 09:50 none of them circumcised so it's not there until Abraham. 09:53 So obviously, it can't be eternal, 09:55 if it has a beginning. 09:57 And it can't apply to all people, 09:58 if it didn't apply to the first people 10:00 for the first 2,000 years of earth's history. 10:03 Well, now, how about the feasts? 10:05 The feasts don't come into existence 10:07 until even later than that. 10:09 They don't come until Moses 10:11 which is about 400 and 500 years after that. 10:14 So for the first 2,500 years nobody has kept a Passover, 10:17 nobody has celebrated Passover, 10:19 nobody has done any of the feasts. 10:21 So they were there for a purpose. 10:24 Now just as circumcision still has its medical benefits, 10:27 the feasts still have their benefits, 10:29 but they're not even eternal and they're not universal. 10:33 Right, and they're not required for universal, 10:35 but they're still good, they're not necessarily bad. 10:39 It just not on the same level as let's say the Sabbath or those. 10:43 That's how we can distinguish 10:44 which one's still apply today and which one's don't. 10:48 So what are some of the benefits of the remembering the feast? 10:51 Okay, let's look at what are some of the loses of-- 10:55 Let's look at the typical calendar year, 10:57 look at the church calendar year. 10:59 And starts of with New Year, so New Year's resolution 11:02 there might be a sermon on that, 11:03 there might be a newsletter, article and that is not bad. 11:06 I'm not saying that this is a bad calendar year or, 11:08 you know, that this is wrong, it's just a typical. 11:11 It starts with New Year's resolution 11:12 then comes what, Valentine's Day 11:15 and so there's a sermon on love and then comes Mother's Day 11:19 and so we honor all the mothers 11:20 and even the poor woman that, you know, 11:22 maybe never got married and never had children. 11:24 And so Easter for Mother's Day. 11:25 And it maybe then Easter and in case then we got Easter 11:27 and then whole gamut of that whole history 11:29 and all that stuff. 11:31 And then passed that then there's Independence Day. 11:34 Always wonder about Independence Day. 11:36 You know, when I became a believer in the Lord 11:37 that we became-- I became dependent on God. 11:39 And now this independence, I'm remember going to church 11:42 I had a big whole thing on it on independence and until we-- 11:45 We've replaced it with these nationalistic holidays. 11:48 Which again in and of themselves are not necessarily bad, 11:50 but they only apply to the nation that you're at. 11:54 And we can make spiritual analogies, 11:57 but they're really not coming right out of the Bible. 12:00 And we can go on with the whole year that way. 12:05 But if we look at what a calendar year would look like, 12:08 you can still have all these other things that they like them 12:10 but also including the seven 12:14 and even other feasts that are mentioned in the Bible, 12:18 it keeps us on track because all of them point to the cross. 12:21 All of them point to Jesus, so it keeps us track with Jesus. 12:25 Instead of the focus going to independence 12:26 or our personal resolutions or honoring people, 12:30 it keeps us focused on Jesus. 12:32 And so the calendar year, 12:34 when you're coming to the spring time there's the Passover. 12:37 And the Passover is certainly 12:39 is a whole lot more than just Easter. 12:42 It's not Easter at all, you know. 12:43 And it's a whole lot more than even just communion. 12:45 There is just so much to the Passover. 12:47 Always just so powerful 12:49 to have a communion in light of the Passover. 12:54 It's just tons of stuff in there 12:56 that point us again all towards Jesus. 12:58 Jesus, you know, at the cross and His death for us. 13:03 And so we're remembering that then we-- 13:06 After that is the resurrection, the feast of wave He's offering. 13:09 So we have the cross and the resurrection, 13:11 the first fruits and then you go 50 days after that, 13:14 you have Shavuot which is Pentecost. 13:17 And so you got the remembering of the Holy Spirit 13:19 then we need the Holy Spirit, 13:20 we need to be filled with the Holy Spirit, 13:21 we need go out and evangelize, 13:22 we need to share and bring people in 13:24 and added to the number, and so that's reminded also. 13:28 And then we come to in the fall. 13:31 And there are the-- then there's Rosh Hashanah 13:35 which is in Jewish, it's called Rosh Hashanah, 13:37 but it's the feast of trumpets. 13:39 Feasts of trumpets-- No-- 13:43 Okay. Yeah, that's-- 13:44 But first the feast of trumpets and that is the loud cry. 13:47 Just before Yom Kippur. Right, exactly. 13:49 So you get a loud cry, reminding us again to go out 13:52 and shout that Jesus is coming again 13:54 because the fall of feasts represent, 13:55 the last days represent, Jesus' second coming. 13:58 The spring one's representing His first coming, 14:01 His death, His burial, 14:02 His resurrection and then the early believers 14:06 are the early church and then the fall feasts 14:08 all representing the second coming of Jesus. 14:11 And so you have the loud cry, the message going out. 14:14 Jesus is coming again, Jesus is coming again. 14:16 Get ready, get ready, get ready. 14:19 And then that's followed by Yom Kippur, 14:23 it's known as the Day of Atonement 14:24 which will brings us back to the Day of Judgment 14:27 and the whole judgment message. 14:28 The First Angel's Message talks about 14:31 that fear God and give glory to Him 14:34 for the hour of His judgment has come. 14:36 And so it brings us back on yearly basis, 14:38 reminding us to not to forget 14:40 to preach the advent message, 14:44 the Three Angels Message, the coming judgment 14:48 and to get ready for the judgment, be prepared. 14:50 And we can look at in light of grace, 14:52 we can look at in light of love, 14:53 we can look at in light of God's covering over us, 14:56 but that we still need to remember it and not forget it. 14:58 And then right after that is the Feast of Ingathering 15:01 also known as the Feast of Tabernacles, 15:03 also known as the Feast of Booths 15:06 or Sukkoth we say in Hebrew. 15:08 And so that represents heaven 15:11 which can after the judgment, after the loud cry, 15:13 after the message goes out to all the world, 15:15 to every nation, every tribe, every kindred, 15:17 every people, then the judgment will come 15:19 and then after the judgment is completed. 15:21 And the judgment is a long process 15:23 just like in the Unties States or judge--Court system is a-- 15:27 You know, just go and arrest the guy 15:29 and then sentence and hung that same day. 15:31 You know, there is a process. 15:32 The same with God's laws. 15:34 Man is no more jesting-- Man is not more jesting God, 15:37 so God has His investigative judgment 15:39 and the whole judgment process. 15:40 And at the end of that then there's heaven forever. 15:43 And that lasts seven days that the-- 15:46 Bible mentions it, "Sukkoth to the feast of ingathering 15:50 and feast of harvest last in seven days." 15:52 Well, there you get that number of totality 15:54 that forever and ever will be in heaven 15:56 with the perfection and no more and in judgment. 15:59 So again it's great time to remember heaven 16:01 and have a sermon right on heaven. 16:03 And so we've got that theme all throughout. 16:06 And coming-- We have some pictures 16:08 actually I can show you how we do it now. 16:10 Now of course, how we do it 16:12 is how we do it in the Jewish way. 16:14 And I'm not saying that, again not all churches 16:17 have to do this at all, but if they want to, 16:19 remember they don't have to remember it 16:21 with the same Jewish because a lot of what we do 16:23 is Jewish traditions that are been meshed in 16:27 with the holidays, which is not necessarily bad, 16:30 any worse in Christian traditions, you know. 16:32 And there are Christian traditions 16:33 whether we're gods or not. 16:36 Traditions that replaced the Bible are bad traditions. 16:39 Traditions of men that undermine 16:42 or supersede the Bible, certainly the wrong. 16:44 But a tradition, you know, 16:45 having birthday party or families like to have, 16:48 popcorn on Friday night. 16:49 You know, it's good tradition so you can have. 16:50 So we can look at some of the pictures 16:52 and we run through that 16:54 and look at some of the traditions. 16:55 We start of with Hanukkah. 16:57 Hanukkah takes place in December. 16:59 That's festival of lights. Festival of lights. 17:00 And there we are lighting our candles, lighting our-- 17:02 Now that's not in the Bible though. 17:04 Well, that's what I was gonna ask you. 17:06 Where in the Bible is that? 17:07 You just said, you know, no. 17:08 It is in the Bible. Where is it? 17:10 It is mentioned in the Bible. 17:11 It is? Yes. 17:12 It's mentioned in the Book of John Chapter 10, 17:15 I believe it is verse 8. 17:16 I mean we got that backwards, I don't know, where it says, 17:19 "It was the winter time and Jesus came to the temple 17:23 during the Feast of Dedication." 17:26 And the word "dedication" in Hebrew is Hanukkah. 17:29 So it is. I heard it wasn't. 17:31 Right. That's the whole line. 17:33 That's the whole line on what it was. 17:35 Jesus went in the temple, 17:36 it was being celebrated in Jesus' Day 17:37 or observed in Jesus' Day and remembered in Jesus' Day. 17:40 And very powerful, there are-- 17:43 And celebrated Beth El-Shalom. 17:44 That's the front of one of our buildings of thing. 17:46 Pre-congregation, that's right. 17:47 And now we light the big menorah 17:49 and it has to eight the-- It has nine candles on it. 17:52 And Hanukkah is celebrated for eight days. 17:56 And many people will ask, "Well, 17:59 I've seen menorah is with seven branches. 18:02 Why does that one have nine 18:03 and why do you celebrate it for eight days? 18:05 Well, it's celebrated. 18:07 The seventh branch menorah is from the sanctuary. 18:10 That's how God designed 18:11 and told Moses to build it, seven branches. 18:16 During the time of the Greeks, 18:18 over running Israel, Israel fought back 18:22 and won back the temple, 18:24 cleaned out all the Assyrian idols, 18:26 Zeus and everything and rededicated the temple. 18:30 Hanukkah did in dedication. 18:32 They dedicated it for eight days 18:34 because in the Bible, throughout the Bible 18:36 eight means dedication. 18:37 You dedicate your child with circumcision on the eighth day. 18:40 It's also like a day of new beginnings, too. 18:42 That's right. New beginnings, that's right. 18:44 And so it was a new temple, new beginnings. 18:46 Solomon dedicated the temple for eight days. 18:48 And so throughout the Bible we see that dedication. 18:50 So it's celebrated and there is a tradition 18:52 that they only had enough oil for one day 18:54 and it lasted for eight days. 18:56 And the menorah had to be lid all the time, 18:59 and so the eight days. Well, then that, 19:01 it still doesn't explain we have nine candles on it? 19:04 I'm gonna say, "Well, we have the eight on the lower branch." 19:06 But then we have a one high one, 19:08 it's called the Shamash candle. 19:10 And Shamash means servant. It's the servant candle. 19:13 We light that one first and then we use 19:16 that one to light the others. 19:18 So in the first night-- 19:19 Is that the one where they say, 19:20 "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord." 19:23 That's the Shama. The Shama? 19:24 Okay. And it means here. It means here. 19:27 And so we light that Shamash, 19:29 Shamash candle, and so in the first night, 19:31 we light that and then light the first candle. 19:33 Second night we light that and two other candles. 19:35 So it's always lid and always lights the others. 19:38 Now right in the same place in John Chapter10 19:41 and right in that area, Jesus says 19:44 "I am the light of the world." 19:48 Okay. Yes. 19:49 And so, "I am the light of the world." 19:52 And so He is the Shamash candle. 19:54 "He who follows me will never walk in darkness." 19:56 Right. That's right. 19:57 Now in another place Jesus says, 20:00 "You are the light of the world." 20:02 So which is it? 'Cause He has lid us. 20:05 'Cause He has lid us, exactly. That's right. 20:06 He is the candle that lights us 20:08 and sets us on flame and shining for Him. 20:11 And so there you see it beautifully illustrated 20:14 which is amazing that Jewish people 20:15 don't see that, so we explain it out. 20:17 They don't know what the Shamash candle is? 20:18 Why do we have it? Many didn't know. 20:20 I didn't know growing up, we just did it. 20:22 And when you see it, it's very powerful. 20:25 He is the one that's sets on fire. 20:26 He is the one that lights us out. 20:28 And the oil and there's lot of analogies 20:29 that can be brought out with it, 20:31 then the next continue then we have Passover, 20:33 a little bit about Passover. 20:36 There's a Passover service in New Port Richey congregation. 20:39 And in the Passover, there're just so many things. 20:43 Well, like in the Gospel of Accounts, 20:44 Jesus is there at the Passover 20:46 and He tells His disciples one of you 20:48 are going to be betray me. 20:50 And He gives His symbol, He tells them they ask, 20:53 you know, is it a high? 20:54 And who is it gonna be? 20:55 And he tells them "That it's the one 20:58 who dips in the--" In King James it says, "Sop." 21:03 Whatever that means it's dipped in the sop. 21:05 Well, so is the--Just come up with that off is head. 21:09 What was being done? 21:10 Well, during the Passover, 21:13 there is a specific place where we dip. 21:16 And we actually have the kids come forward 21:17 and the kids ask questions. 21:19 They ask four different questions. 21:20 One of the questions is why do we dip on Passover? 21:25 And then the next question is 21:26 why do we dip twice on Passover? 21:29 The first dipping is we dip into horseradish. 21:33 We dip the morsel of the unleavened bread 21:34 which is a whole big beautiful thing on that, too. 21:37 We dip that in the horseradish 21:39 to remember the bitter slavery that we were under. 21:42 Next, we dip it in horseradish 21:45 and in what we call Haroset. 21:47 Haroset is a mixture of walnuts, apples and grape juice. 21:52 So it's a sweet tasting mixture. 21:54 Blend it up, it kind of looks like mortar. 21:55 And that's what supposed to remind us of the bricks 21:57 we had to make. 21:58 But it's sweet because even though 22:00 our slavery was bitter, it was sweetened 22:03 with the hope of deliverance. 22:05 And so we dip it two together. 22:07 So you have this horseradish, sweet. 22:09 So, you know, things have the bitter sweet. 22:12 The sweet and sour, we've got bitter and sweet. 22:15 And so we mix that together and eat that together. 22:17 I believe that's when Jesus said, 22:19 "The one who dips with Me 22:21 in that double dipping pot." 22:23 And He is saying to Judas, "Judas, you're very bitter. 22:27 You've got a lot of bitterness inside you. 22:29 You're filled with envy and you're filled with greed 22:32 and you're filled with pride, 22:33 but I can sweeten your life with My deliverance, 22:38 with my blood, My grape juice and this Haroset. 22:42 And I can make your life sweet." 22:43 And He's also saying, "Judas, 22:46 in just a little while you're going to make Me 22:48 go through a very bitter experience. 22:51 You're gonna make Me go to the cross 22:53 and be rejected and be hung and die. 22:57 But through my suffering, I will make many sweet." 23:01 And so you've got this bitter sweet. 23:03 And that's what we've doing it for thousands of years. 23:06 And not knowing why. And not knowing why. 23:08 Well, we do the bitters for the bitter slavery, 23:11 and but there's the whole symbolism, right? 23:13 And but Jesus knew and Jesus took that very symbolism 23:16 to reach through the Gospel of Accounts 23:18 and you compare it with the Passover Haggadah. 23:19 That's the Passover book that we read through. 23:21 They match up identically. 23:23 Jesus blessing the juice and blessing the bread 23:26 and dipping and reclining. 23:28 John is reclining, we don't have time for that I can see. 23:30 John reclines it's mentioned in-- 23:32 It's in the Passover that it's a reclined. 23:34 Just tons of stuff. 23:35 The whole Passover, the mortar, the unleavened, 23:38 the pears, bread, the broken bread, 23:40 it's just so much to it. 23:42 So now we've got a few pictures that we're look at, so-- 23:44 Okay. Yes. Let's go to the next one. 23:45 After Passover would be that's it, 23:47 then we go to the fall Rosh Hashanah 23:48 and how we observe Rosh Hashanah, 23:50 we wear white in preparation for the judgment to come. 23:55 We blow the trumpets again announcing. 23:57 Blow the shofar as announcing 23:59 that we blow it over 100 times, 24:00 announcing that judgment is coming, it's get ready time. 24:04 We've only got a few days between Rosh Hashanah. 24:06 So this is a time of fasting them. 24:08 It's a time of-- People who fast, 24:12 fasting on Yom Kippur specifically, 24:14 but fasting that whole time. 24:15 Reconciliation, writing wrongs, calling people, 24:18 apologizing, getting things straight. 24:21 We even put the Torah in a white cloth. 24:24 So white covering again that symbol of purity. 24:27 We wanted to be pure because the judgment is coming. 24:29 We want our sins purged, we want our sins forgiven. 24:33 We want to be right with the Lord 24:34 and cleanse with the Lord 24:36 in preparation for Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. 24:40 And then the Day of Atonement comes 24:43 and ten days later we call it the ten Days of Awe. 24:46 Ten days between the two. 24:48 When there is that the time, 24:49 the Sabbath that falls between the two we call Shabbat Shuvah, 24:55 Sabbath of Repentance. 24:57 So it's the whole message of repentance, 24:58 the whole message of forgiveness. 25:00 And then after that then comes the Sukkoth 25:02 and how we celebrate that, how we enjoy that. 25:04 We build the booths again reminding us 25:06 I think we might have a couple of pictures of that. 25:08 Here we build the booth and people get to sit 25:09 in the booth and again reminding us, right? 25:11 It reminds us backwards towards 25:13 our wondering in the wilderness, forward towards heaven. 25:16 Right. And some of our members there. 25:19 And then I think the last one 25:20 we want to talk about is Porum. 25:22 And Porum-- Now this was the Easter. 25:24 That's right, very good, Shelley. 25:25 Okay, yeah. The celebration of Easter. 25:28 And at the end of Easter it tells us to celebrate it 25:30 on this time and do it and to remember it. 25:32 And again it's so powerful 25:34 as we think of the Book of Esther 25:35 in last day events and the religious liberties 25:38 or religious freedoms were taken away and removed. 25:42 Now we celebrate them by dressing up 25:44 and make it a party time 25:46 and a happy time and a festive time. 25:48 And so we dress up in different characters of the Bible. 25:51 And it's a really fun occasion for us to enjoy. 25:56 You know, as I'm looking at these I'm wondering. 25:58 Do you-- I know you have 25:59 a lot of Jewish Christians that are here. 26:02 Do you have others who are not of the Jewish background, 26:06 have come just because they find this 26:07 so rich and exciting. 26:09 Yes, we do. Yes, we do. 26:10 A lot of people are learning, you know, 26:12 other parts of the Bible that they had never read 26:13 before or heard Bible. 26:15 Well, it's interesting. 26:16 So I just want to again make very clear 26:19 that we're not saying that the feast 26:23 must be kept impossible to be kept as a matter of fact. 26:26 We're talking about Jesus being the fulfillment of those 26:29 and Jeff is sharing some of the benefits of remembering 26:33 these feasts and seeing them 26:35 as the pictures of Jesus, the memorials of Jesus. 26:40 Now I know that right now 26:42 you and a good friend of mine, Steve Walberg we share a good-- 26:45 That's right. Good friend. 26:47 And you and Steve with White Horse Media. 26:50 You're working on a project, tell us about this. 26:54 Oh, this is an exciting project. 26:55 The Ultimate Passover, when we went to Israel 26:57 and we filmed already one-third of it on location. 27:01 In Egypt and in Israel 27:03 of some of the Passover, a little bit like, 27:04 what I explained in three sections, 27:07 a Passover in Moses' Day, 27:10 Passover in Jesus' Day, Passover today 27:12 and they all blend together how they all point to Jesus. 27:15 And so we've got about two-thirds 27:16 more to go on that project. 27:18 It'll be about one hour program. 27:20 So this will be a DVD project that will explain 27:24 how Jesus is the fulfillment of all of this. 27:26 That's right, exactly. That is exciting. 27:30 What do you do in your spare time? 27:32 Oh, I don't know. Sometimes I sleep. 27:35 Jeff, thank you so much for being here today. 27:36 We've really enjoyed it. 27:38 Pleasure to be here. Thank you. 27:39 You know, for those of you who at home, 27:40 I hoped you really learned 27:42 like I have today some exciting things. 27:44 And may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, 27:46 the love of the Father 27:47 and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit 27:49 be with you and your family always. 27:52 Thank you for joining us. |
Revised 2014-12-17