Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn and welcome again to Issues and 00:00:30.38\00:00:34.22 Answers. Today we're going to be talking about intercessory 00:00:34.25\00:00:38.12 prayer. You know this of course brings a scripture to mind, 00:00:38.19\00:00:42.17 Ezekiel 22:30. Listen to what the Lord says. He says: 00:00:42.20\00:00:46.22 I sought for a man among them who would build up the wall and 00:00:46.25\00:00:51.73 stand in the gap before me for the land that I should not 00:00:51.76\00:00:55.26 destroy it, but I found none. The Lord is looking for 00:00:55.29\00:00:59.11 intercessory prayers. Now does intercessory prayer really make 00:00:59.14\00:01:02.08 a difference in people's lives? Well, I've got my handy dandy 00:01:02.11\00:01:06.20 book marker here, my little Kleenex, because I want to read 00:01:06.23\00:01:08.86 you a second scripture and it comes from Psalm 106, and in 00:01:08.89\00:01:14.10 this psalm it's talking about how the Israelites had forgotten 00:01:14.13\00:01:18.64 their God and they exchanged the glory of God for an ox and they 00:01:18.67\00:01:24.55 forgot God their Savior. Listen to verse 23. Psalm 106:23: 00:01:24.58\00:01:29.19 Therefore he said he would destroy them and he would have 00:01:29.22\00:01:35.18 done so had not Moses his chosen one stepped into the breech 00:01:35.21\00:01:39.60 before him to turn away his threatening wrath. 00:01:39.63\00:01:43.51 God was looking for an intercessor and he found 00:01:43.54\00:01:48.49 one in Moses who was a type of Jesus Christ. The Bible tells us 00:01:48.52\00:01:52.06 in Hebrews 7:25 that Jesus is at the right hand of the throne of 00:01:52.09\00:01:56.34 the Father right now interceding on our behalf and he is able 00:01:56.37\00:02:00.16 to save to the uttermost. So that is what we are going to be 00:02:00.19\00:02:03.89 talking about today. I am so excited to welcome back again 00:02:03.92\00:02:07.64 Janet and Jerry Page, two dear friends and two wonderful 00:02:07.67\00:02:12.60 servants of the Lord. Now Jerry you are the conference president 00:02:12.63\00:02:16.42 for the Central California Conference. Janet you're the 00:02:16.45\00:02:19.84 Women's Ministries director and the Prayer Ministries 00:02:19.87\00:02:23.47 coordinator. I have to tell you as I have traveled throughout 00:02:23.50\00:02:27.54 California and particularly in your conference, when I talk to 00:02:27.57\00:02:30.41 people about you, they all say how much the conference changed 00:02:30.44\00:02:34.68 when you came aboard and they all attribute it to your 00:02:34.71\00:02:39.41 devotion to the Lord and your devotion to prayer. So we're 00:02:39.44\00:02:43.44 really excited that you're back and that we are going to be 00:02:43.47\00:02:46.38 talking about intercessory prayer. So Jerry, does 00:02:46.41\00:02:50.31 intercessory prayer make a difference in people's lives? 00:02:50.34\00:02:52.74 Yes it does and I guess if people say something about us 00:02:52.77\00:02:56.31 we're always nervous when people say that, but it's because we 00:02:56.34\00:03:00.61 have come to find out how much we can't do trying to lead in 00:03:00.64\00:03:03.83 God's church at this time in history. There's just too much 00:03:03.86\00:03:05.89 coming at us from Satan and all the things happening, so we've 00:03:05.92\00:03:09.12 just learned to cry out, Help! We can't handle it and we get a 00:03:09.15\00:03:12.36 lot of people praying for us. I love a little story told by 00:03:12.39\00:03:16.07 Tony Campolo who is quite a dynamic speaker. He tells that 00:03:16.10\00:03:18.06 he went to preach at a Bible college for their commencement 00:03:18.09\00:03:21.10 and eight guys got him in the back room. They circled around 00:03:21.13\00:03:23.17 him and they put their hands on his head and they began to pray 00:03:23.20\00:03:25.21 over him. He said that's good, I need all the prayer I can get. 00:03:25.24\00:03:27.96 But he said these guys they prayed long prayers and they 00:03:27.99\00:03:30.81 went on and on and on. He said, this one guy, he wasn't even 00:03:30.84\00:03:33.45 praying for me. He said as they prayed long prayers, he said 00:03:33.48\00:03:36.00 they started to get tired and they leaned on my head. He said 00:03:36.03\00:03:39.11 I kind of wished they'd quit. But this one guy, he wasn't even 00:03:39.14\00:03:41.97 praying for me. He was praying for some guy named Charlie 00:03:42.00\00:03:43.90 Stoslus. He said, O Lord, you know Charlie Stoslus. He lives 00:03:43.93\00:03:46.67 about a mile down the road on the right hand side in that 00:03:46.70\00:03:48.85 silver trailer. He said, Lord, step in and do something. You 00:03:48.88\00:03:51.25 know Charlie left his wife and his three kids this morning. 00:03:51.28\00:03:53.23 Save him, Lord, do something. Tony said every time he get done 00:03:53.26\00:03:56.11 he'd circle around and hit it again. He'd say, O Lord, you 00:03:56.14\00:03:58.73 know Charlie Stoslus. He lives a mile down the road on the right 00:03:58.76\00:04:01.75 hand side in that silver trailer. Tony said, I felt like 00:04:01.78\00:04:04.10 saying to him, What do you think God is asking what's that 00:04:04.13\00:04:06.94 address again? But Tony said he kept on and finally he quit. 00:04:06.97\00:04:10.59 I was able to preach my sermon and I got in the car to go and I 00:04:10.62\00:04:14.20 was driving to get on the turnpike, the freeway, and he 00:04:14.24\00:04:16.66 there was this guy at the on ramp with his thumb stuck out. 00:04:16.69\00:04:18.82 He said, I know you're not supposed to pick up hitchhikers, 00:04:18.86\00:04:21.09 that's dangerous. But, he said, I'm a preacher and any time 00:04:21.12\00:04:23.32 I can get a captive audience in my car to tell them about Jesus 00:04:23.35\00:04:26.20 I do it. So he said, I picked the guy up. We're headed down 00:04:26.23\00:04:28.63 the road. I looked over at him and I said, Hi, my name's Tony, 00:04:28.66\00:04:30.63 what's yours? He said my name's Charlie Stoslus. Tony said my 00:04:30.66\00:04:35.31 eyes got big. I looked at him and I got off at the next exit 00:04:35.34\00:04:37.52 and I started driving across the bridge to turn around and his 00:04:37.55\00:04:40.50 eyes got big. He plastered himself up against the door 00:04:40.53\00:04:43.11 and he said, Hey mister, where are you taking me? Tony said 00:04:43.14\00:04:45.52 I'm taking you home. He said, Why. He said, because you left 00:04:45.55\00:04:48.59 your wife and your three kids this morning didn't you? And 00:04:48.62\00:04:51.04 Charlie says, Yeah, how did you know that? And Tony said because 00:04:51.07\00:04:53.81 God told me. You know what, I believe God did tell him. 00:04:53.84\00:04:56.89 And he said then when I got off at the next exit, drove a mile 00:04:56.92\00:05:00.17 down the road and pulled in front of his silver trailer that 00:05:00.20\00:05:02.81 really blew him away. His eyes got big and he said, Mister how 00:05:02.84\00:05:05.21 did know I lived here? Tony said because God told me. His wife 00:05:05.24\00:05:09.02 came to the door and she said, You're back, you're back! So 00:05:09.05\00:05:11.44 Charlie went up, whispered in his wife's ear, pointed at Tony 00:05:11.47\00:05:13.45 and her eyes got big. Then Tony said, Now listen, I want you two 00:05:13.48\00:05:16.36 to get in that trailer. You sit down. I'm going to talk 00:05:16.39\00:05:18.71 and you listen. He said, Man did they listen just like I was 00:05:18.74\00:05:21.67 God himself or something. That afternoon he was able to lead 00:05:21.70\00:05:25.44 those two young people to Jesus Christ and that guy is a 00:05:25.47\00:05:27.55 preacher in California today. Hallelujah, Hallelujah. But to 00:05:27.58\00:05:31.53 me, Jeremiah 33:3 is a promise from God, some have said it's 00:05:31.56\00:05:36.20 God's phone number. Jeremiah 33:3 says, Call to me and I 00:05:36.23\00:05:40.36 will answer you. But it doesn't stop there. We sometimes think 00:05:40.39\00:05:43.20 of intercessory pray as pulling a lever and God gives us what we 00:05:43.23\00:05:46.19 need or ask him just for what we want. But what we've 00:05:46.22\00:05:49.67 discovered in our journey with him is, Call to me and I will 00:05:49.70\00:05:52.52 answer you and show you great and might things which you don't 00:05:52.55\00:05:55.40 know. The beautiful about God and what he is doing dragging 00:05:55.43\00:05:59.32 us kicking and screaming into this relationship with him 00:05:59.35\00:06:01.98 sometimes trying to get away from him or whatever, he keeps 00:06:02.01\00:06:05.24 teaching us more and more about his character, who he is. He 00:06:05.27\00:06:08.72 never answers my prayers exactly the same way twice. He's always 00:06:08.75\00:06:11.13 got a little twist. He says, I'm the creator; I'll do it a 00:06:11.16\00:06:13.87 different way this time. I'll show you how really special I am 00:06:13.90\00:06:16.65 and he teaches me, grows me, shows me things about myself. 00:06:16.68\00:06:20.13 So that's really our testimony about intercessory prayer, but 00:06:20.16\00:06:23.31 it is an issue. I talked to someone just very recently who 00:06:23.34\00:06:26.59 said, You know, why do we have to pray, why do we have to 00:06:26.62\00:06:29.44 intercede and why do we have to have groups praying together? 00:06:29.47\00:06:31.97 Doesn't God do everything he can for people. All I can say is 00:06:32.00\00:06:35.42 that God's word says yes we do. You look at Jesus. All through 00:06:35.45\00:06:39.52 the scriptures, but in Luke 11 he's got a whole chapter. He 00:06:39.55\00:06:43.55 teaches the disciples to intercede in the Lord's prayer. 00:06:43.58\00:06:46.73 Then he gives the example of the persistent friend and says 00:06:46.76\00:06:48.58 we need to persist in prayer. Jesus himself spent nights in 00:06:48.61\00:06:52.37 prayer before he made important decisions and did things. He was 00:06:52.40\00:06:55.68 always with the Father. Here he was God become man. And on it 00:06:55.71\00:06:59.39 goes; he says and I say unto you ask and it will be given you, 00:06:59.42\00:07:02.90 seek and you find, knock and it will be opened unto you for 00:07:02.93\00:07:06.01 everyone who asks receives and he who seeks finds and to him 00:07:06.04\00:07:09.33 who knocks it will be opened. Then later in that same chapter 00:07:09.36\00:07:13.06 he tells us to seek and ask and pray for the Holy Spirit and he 00:07:13.09\00:07:15.76 will be given to us, which is our greatest need. And it goes 00:07:15.79\00:07:19.27 on. Paul, of course, all through the New Testament is saying we 00:07:19.30\00:07:21.31 need to pray. James says you have not because you ask not. 00:07:21.34\00:07:24.69 Then one of my favorite authors, Ellen White, has a number of 00:07:24.72\00:07:27.43 powerful quotes about how intercessory prayer works. 00:07:27.46\00:07:30.65 I believe, Shelley, that it's got something to do with the 00:07:30.68\00:07:33.98 war that's going on behind the scenes between Satan and his 00:07:34.01\00:07:36.39 forces and Jesus and the forces of God. Somehow God has limited 00:07:36.42\00:07:41.28 himself, I believe, to our prayers. Now he's always working 00:07:41.31\00:07:45.10 in everybody's life. He's doing things, but he says some things 00:07:45.13\00:07:48.07 I can't give you unless you ask. 00:07:48.10\00:07:50.33 Because he won't force himself on you. 00:07:50.36\00:07:52.74 It's about his character, it's about rules he's set up limiting 00:07:52.77\00:07:55.44 himself because he will not come across a person's will 00:07:55.47\00:07:58.67 or whatever. I don't know how it all works. All I know is like a 00:07:58.70\00:08:02.04 computer, like television, it just works. We're going to share 00:08:02.07\00:08:04.80 not just from the scriptures today but Janet's going to share 00:08:04.83\00:08:07.24 some stories. Our experience, too, has just been amazing. 00:08:07.27\00:08:09.43 The more we pray, the more we intercede and the more people 00:08:09.46\00:08:12.20 intercede with us, the more we see his hand working in power. 00:08:12.23\00:08:15.45 A couple of these statements that I like. She says in Second 00:08:15.48\00:08:19.15 Selected Messages p. 377: Ministering angels are waiting 00:08:19.18\00:08:22.88 about the throne to instantly obey the mandate of Jesus Christ 00:08:22.91\00:08:25.82 to answer every prayer offered in earnest, living faith. 00:08:25.85\00:08:29.38 So you think whenever we pray, get into a group, we're asking 00:08:29.41\00:08:33.21 him to dispatch the angels, to do something in the great 00:08:33.24\00:08:35.90 controversy. Again, Isaiah 42 says he opens the blind eyes 00:08:35.93\00:08:39.99 sets the captives free, makes the crooked things straight. 00:08:40.02\00:08:42.33 Somehow he helps people see him better. Somehow he gives them 00:08:42.36\00:08:45.77 the freedom to come out from under the bondages maybe Satan 00:08:45.80\00:08:48.54 has put on them and be able to really make a decision through 00:08:48.57\00:08:51.94 their own choice for him. Another one: Great Controversy, 00:08:51.97\00:08:56.31 a book that I love, page 525, she says, it is part of God's 00:08:56.34\00:08:59.82 to grant us in answer to the prayer of faith that which he 00:08:59.85\00:09:03.19 would not bestow if we don't thus ask. In another place, she 00:09:03.22\00:09:07.42 says when he sees earnest prayer Satan's hosts tremble because he 00:09:07.45\00:09:11.00 knows he'll suffer loss. Maybe just one or so more and then 00:09:11.03\00:09:14.55 I'll turn it over to Janet to share maybe a story or two. 00:09:14.58\00:09:19.63 In Matthew 18:19 and 20 Jesus said, Wherever two or three of 00:09:19.66\00:09:24.88 you... He said, Again I say to you that if two of you agree 00:09:24.91\00:09:28.37 on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done 00:09:28.41\00:09:31.70 for them by my father in heaven, for where two or three are 00:09:31.74\00:09:34.96 gathered together in my name I am there in the midst of them. 00:09:35.00\00:09:39.09 Now commenting on that, again, Ellen White says this: This 00:09:39.12\00:09:42.78 promise is made on condition that the united prayers of the 00:09:42.81\00:09:46.24 church are offered and in answer to these prayers there may be 00:09:46.27\00:09:50.78 expected a power... What do you think?... a power greater than 00:09:50.82\00:09:55.38 that which comes in answer even to private prayer. Why? The 00:09:55.41\00:09:59.94 power given will be proportionate to the unity of 00:09:59.98\00:10:02.02 the members and their love of God and for one another. 00:10:02.06\00:10:05.07 Really the Lord's prayer in some ways was John 17 as he was 00:10:05.11\00:10:09.04 going to the cross. He prayed for unity among his believers 00:10:09.07\00:10:12.94 so the world would know that he really came. I believe that when 00:10:12.97\00:10:16.17 he sees people willing to take the time and the effort to get 00:10:16.20\00:10:19.59 together and to pray, he pours our his Spirit power in special 00:10:19.63\00:10:23.69 ways. So not only does every earnest prayer of a person get 00:10:23.73\00:10:26.47 answered but when we come together and when we take the 00:10:26.50\00:10:29.17 time as people, as a church to really pray, I think God is able 00:10:29.21\00:10:33.48 to do the kinds of things we can barely believe. We could 00:10:33.52\00:10:37.54 tell stories for hours here of just the things we've seen 00:10:37.57\00:10:40.56 recently happening. Yes, we've got our prayers that haven't 00:10:40.60\00:10:43.53 been answered yet. He says no sometimes like he did to Jesus 00:10:43.56\00:10:47.11 in Gethsemane. There are wait answers, but we've just come 00:10:47.14\00:10:50.26 to focus on the fact that the more we ask the more we see his 00:10:50.29\00:10:53.10 power, the more we learn about him. I just praise him for that. 00:10:53.13\00:10:56.52 You know, see if you agree with this statement. I often make 00:10:56.56\00:10:59.47 this statement; I know you've heard me even at the retreats 00:10:59.51\00:11:02.38 say this, I believe that intercessory prayer is the 00:11:02.42\00:11:08.15 highest calling to ministry that there is and the reason 00:11:08.19\00:11:11.15 I say that is that I have a scripture to support it and 00:11:11.18\00:11:14.07 that's Hebrews 7:25 that says that Jesus is at the right hand 00:11:14.11\00:11:18.17 of the throne of the Father interceding on our behalf. 00:11:18.20\00:11:22.81 If this is ministry of our risen and exalted Savior, what 00:11:22.84\00:11:27.38 higher calling to ministry could there be? You know what Janet, 00:11:27.42\00:11:30.42 I believe that some day when the Lord is passing out rewards 00:11:30.46\00:11:33.43 there's going to be televangelists who are going to 00:11:33.47\00:11:35.84 be at the front row thinking, Okay, you know, I'm ready 00:11:35.87\00:11:39.56 to get my reward and the Lord is going to say, Sister Ruby, 00:11:39.59\00:11:43.20 come through and here's going to come this precious little saint 00:11:43.24\00:11:46.86 who was 100 years old and thought well Lord what can I do 00:11:46.90\00:11:50.55 for you. All I can do now is pray. And she had this prayer 00:11:50.59\00:11:54.33 of interceding for God's saints and the workers and everybody 00:11:54.36\00:11:58.16 and the Lord is going to say that she did more by praying 00:11:58.19\00:12:02.20 than many people did in their televangelism. You've got a 00:12:02.23\00:12:06.17 lot of experience; you've shared some wonderful stories with me. 00:12:06.21\00:12:10.37 I would just like to agree with what you just said. A lot of 00:12:10.40\00:12:14.02 people who are retired think there is nothing left for them 00:12:14.06\00:12:17.40 to do. They don't feel like they're useful. If we could get 00:12:17.43\00:12:21.33 them all praying and praying together. There's such a power 00:12:21.36\00:12:24.91 to be unleashed that we need their prayer. People who are 00:12:24.95\00:12:28.86 handicapped, people who are bedridden, house-bound, who 00:12:28.90\00:12:32.75 have to stay in their homes. If we could get them to pray and 00:12:32.78\00:12:37.55 pray God's scripture into people's lives. Oh it... 00:12:37.59\00:12:42.58 Let me give them a verse to hold onto and that's Psalm 92 00:12:42.62\00:12:47.18 in verses 13 and 14 says, Planted in the house of the 00:12:47.21\00:12:51.70 Lord they shall flourish in the courts of our God. Growing in 00:12:51.73\00:12:54.66 grace they shall still bring forth fruit in old age, they 00:12:54.70\00:12:58.23 shall be full of sap, spiritual vitality, and rich in the 00:12:58.26\00:13:02.58 verdure of the trust and the love and contentment. They are 00:13:02.61\00:13:06.07 living memorials to show that the Lord is upright and faithful 00:13:06.10\00:13:09.53 to his promises. I think that if you are sitting 00:13:09.56\00:13:13.79 at home right now and you may be house-bound and think I can't 00:13:13.83\00:13:16.96 work for the Lord anymore, all you've got to do is remember 00:13:17.00\00:13:20.13 that the greatest call to ministry is intercessory prayer. 00:13:20.17\00:13:23.72 You can do much. Pray for all of our church leaders, pray for 00:13:23.76\00:13:27.47 our world leaders, pray for everyone; pray for the children, 00:13:27.51\00:13:31.19 pray for the babies. We need prayer. 00:13:31.23\00:13:34.25 In our conference, we have a group of prayer partners all 00:13:34.29\00:13:36.58 through the conference and some of them work, some don't, but 00:13:36.62\00:13:39.17 we have some retired people that come in every Wednesday for 00:13:39.20\00:13:41.83 three hours with Janet and just go over a 10-page list of 00:13:41.86\00:13:44.42 the latest crises I can't handle and problems. I tell you we've 00:13:44.46\00:13:47.95 just seen such miracles and it's because of the simple 00:13:47.99\00:13:50.26 people of God who will take the time. They are not better 00:13:50.29\00:13:52.49 people, they just take the time and the effort to actually call 00:13:52.52\00:13:55.13 on God and believe his word and claim his promises. 00:13:55.17\00:13:57.79 Amen, amen. Well Janet share a couple of your experiences with 00:13:57.83\00:14:02.16 answers to intercessory prayer. 00:14:02.19\00:14:05.26 How I've gotten into intercessory prayer 00:14:05.30\00:14:06.68 is because of people praying for me as I shared a while ago in 00:14:06.71\00:14:11.85 one of these series. So many have prayed for me and my life 00:14:11.89\00:14:16.70 was changed. As God started helping me to realize that, God 00:14:16.73\00:14:20.90 started putting on my heart to pray. I like to encourage people 00:14:20.94\00:14:25.12 to pray, but they need to ask God for what does he want them 00:14:25.16\00:14:29.27 to pray about. Because there are a million things out there and I 00:14:29.31\00:14:33.08 can't pray for them all. But I can pray for what God puts on my 00:14:33.11\00:14:36.97 heart. The biggest thing we pray like on Wednesdays, we start off 00:14:37.00\00:14:41.06 with Lord what is on your heart? God help us to be able to see 00:14:41.09\00:14:44.86 what's on your heart that we might pray with you about what 00:14:44.89\00:14:48.79 is your desire. I can come up with all kinds of things, but 00:14:48.83\00:14:51.73 the thing that's going to be powerful is if I'm praying what 00:14:51.77\00:14:55.66 he wants. One time I had... this was early on when God was 00:14:55.69\00:14:59.51 trying to show me the difference prayer makes. I had this woman 00:14:59.55\00:15:03.18 call and I didn't know her real well. She said hello or 00:15:03.22\00:15:06.74 whatever and she finally said, I've been married 32 years and I 00:15:06.77\00:15:10.48 want out of the marriage. She said, It's been terrible. And 00:15:10.51\00:15:13.32 I'm going whoa you know I'm not a marriage counselor. What am I 00:15:13.36\00:15:15.98 supposed to do with this? Of course, I'm kind of praying this 00:15:16.02\00:15:19.16 privately in my mind and I felt like God was saying ask her to 00:15:19.19\00:15:22.61 get together to pray with you once a week. I thought you know 00:15:22.64\00:15:25.71 I'm busy, how can I find the time to do that, I don't know 00:15:25.74\00:15:29.00 that she's going to want to do that. She went through telling 00:15:29.03\00:15:31.90 me, you know, he's miserable, I'm miserable, I want out. 00:15:31.93\00:15:34.76 She said, in fact I left. I packed my car with the things 00:15:34.79\00:15:36.78 I thought I can't live without and I'm on the highway driving 00:15:36.81\00:15:39.90 down the highway saying, God I know you don't like divorce and 00:15:39.93\00:15:42.34 you want me to stay married, but I'm miserable, he's miserable. 00:15:42.37\00:15:44.68 What should I do, God? Right then she saw a sign, 00:15:44.71\00:15:47.08 a big white sign; in big black letters it said TURN BACK NOW 00:15:47.11\00:15:51.37 NEXT EXIT. So she turned around and went back home and then she 00:15:51.40\00:15:56.61 said, God, what do I do and he told her to call me. So I said 00:15:56.64\00:16:00.40 well the only thing I know is to ask you to get together once a 00:16:00.43\00:16:02.93 week and pray about your marriage. I said, I'm not a 00:16:02.96\00:16:04.99 marriage counselor. She said, Oh I'd love that. So we started 00:16:05.02\00:16:08.48 getting together once a week to pray about her marriage and 00:16:08.51\00:16:10.91 at first she was saying, God help my husband. He is miserable 00:16:10.94\00:16:14.75 and just all the bad things about her husband. Lord change 00:16:14.78\00:16:17.21 and convert him. Gradually though I gently kept trying to 00:16:17.24\00:16:21.47 lead her, let's spend more of our time praising God 00:16:21.50\00:16:24.96 worshipping him. I said the more we focus on God instead of the 00:16:24.99\00:16:29.44 problem. We're so quick, at least I am, to just boy this is 00:16:29.47\00:16:32.70 my problem, help me, help me, help me. But instead first 00:16:32.73\00:16:35.83 focusing on and worship God and focusing on his power. We 00:16:35.86\00:16:40.43 started doing that. But I also got her to commit to spending 00:16:40.46\00:16:43.45 an hour a day with God by herself alone, just reading the 00:16:43.48\00:16:48.49 word, getting to know him. I said, you've got to get to know 00:16:48.52\00:16:50.54 God. She'd kind of given that all up because of her bad 00:16:50.57\00:16:53.63 marriage. So she started spending time alone with God. 00:16:53.66\00:16:56.20 Then when we would get together she had so much to praise God 00:16:56.23\00:16:59.44 about and give thanksgiving because of what was happening 00:16:59.47\00:17:01.84 in her private time. God was making himself real in her life. 00:17:01.87\00:17:05.50 Also the other thing we did was we started praying, Lord, how do 00:17:05.53\00:17:10.81 we pray for this marriage. How do we pray for him and for her. 00:17:10.84\00:17:14.35 God led us to pray that it would be put in his mind to love her 00:17:14.38\00:17:19.71 the way he did when he first met her, when they got married and 00:17:19.74\00:17:22.56 that she would love him the way she did when she first married 00:17:22.59\00:17:24.89 him; also that she would see her husband through God's eyes. 00:17:24.92\00:17:29.28 We also started praying for him to have a pure mind because that 00:17:29.31\00:17:33.62 was part of his problem. So we ended up spending more of the 00:17:33.65\00:17:38.42 time worshipping and praising. But do you know what happened? 00:17:38.45\00:17:40.11 When you start meeting together to pray for somebody or to pray 00:17:40.14\00:17:44.35 for a situation or even a church coming together to pray for the 00:17:44.38\00:17:47.73 Holy Spirit, you know what happens? You're releasing the 00:17:47.76\00:17:51.17 power of God somehow, in most cases problems start happening. 00:17:51.20\00:17:55.07 Trouble starts being dumped out. I have had so many mothers come 00:17:55.10\00:17:59.42 to me. They come and say, pray for my son. I want him to be 00:17:59.45\00:18:02.63 converted. We're having so much trouble. We pray for him and the 00:18:02.66\00:18:04.30 next week they come back crying, We shouldn't have prayed for him 00:18:04.33\00:18:07.29 He got fired from his job, now he and his wife are fighting and 00:18:07.32\00:18:09.96 she's threatening divorce. You know things are worse. I try to 00:18:09.99\00:18:13.55 encourage people... you have to be careful how you do this 00:18:13.58\00:18:15.83 because it can be offensive... but praise God. 00:18:15.86\00:18:18.64 In II Corinthians 5:7 it says walk by faith, not by sight. 00:18:18.67\00:18:24.30 In Isaiah 55 it says his ways are not our ways, his thoughts 00:18:24.33\00:18:27.80 are not our thoughts. We don't know how God has to work in 00:18:27.83\00:18:31.29 order to save that person or to heal that situation or in 00:18:31.32\00:18:35.04 order for the Holy Spirit to be poured out in the church. We 00:18:35.07\00:18:37.11 don't know what's got to happen, but I can promise you that if 00:18:37.14\00:18:40.24 your praying and claiming God's promises and his word, God is 00:18:40.27\00:18:45.00 working, even though it may not look like it. He desperately 00:18:45.03\00:18:47.81 needs a people that will step out in faith and praise him and 00:18:47.84\00:18:50.46 thank him. In saying that, I don't always do it. I'm a big 00:18:50.49\00:18:56.40 one to whine ah I'm not sure this is going to turn out right. 00:18:56.43\00:18:58.90 I believe thought that if I could do that even more, it 00:18:58.93\00:19:02.31 would release more of God's power. But in this marriage 00:19:02.34\00:19:05.03 we saw things get worse and it got discouraging after a while. 00:19:05.06\00:19:08.51 We'd keep meeting every week, meeting, praying together and I 00:19:08.54\00:19:11.51 pretty soon got sick of praying for this marriage. These people 00:19:11.54\00:19:15.22 we started praying for their kids, because they were young 00:19:15.25\00:19:21.19 adults who had never accepted the Lord. During the couple of 00:19:21.22\00:19:24.21 years that we prayed we saw the children all get baptized 00:19:24.24\00:19:27.63 plus the families came to the Lord. Eventually thought this 00:19:27.66\00:19:31.51 woman who was so angry and just so depressed and just miserable 00:19:31.54\00:19:36.27 because of spending time with God, the marriage had not 00:19:36.30\00:19:39.47 changed, but because of spending time with God she became a woman 00:19:39.50\00:19:42.38 of joy. She became so thrilled with that relationship with God. 00:19:42.41\00:19:45.58 She was just exuberant and her husband started to take notice. 00:19:45.61\00:19:48.80 Her face went from anger to happiness and joy and he started 00:19:48.83\00:19:52.72 trying to talk to her again and pretty soon they became like 00:19:52.75\00:19:56.52 this. You couldn't get them apart. They became like young 00:19:56.55\00:19:58.27 lovers, always had to be holding hands, she had to go with him 00:19:58.30\00:20:01.10 wherever he went with his work and sit right next to him in the 00:20:01.13\00:20:04.08 car. It was so exciting to see. 00:20:04.11\00:20:05.45 What you're saying to me is... let me put it this way... in my 00:20:05.48\00:20:11.66 life every time I have a problem I know it's a spiritual problem 00:20:11.69\00:20:14.66 as the root of it. Whatever is being manifested in my life and 00:20:14.69\00:20:19.09 she had a spiritual problem. She was empty. She had her eyes off 00:20:19.12\00:20:22.89 the Lord. She didn't have any joy in her. The joy of the Lord 00:20:22.92\00:20:26.69 was not her strength. So she was empty inside and looking 00:20:26.72\00:20:30.80 for her husband to meet all of her needs, which he could not, 00:20:30.83\00:20:34.04 and she was angry and bitter. Once you got her into that hour 00:20:34.07\00:20:38.84 a day she was in the Word, feeding on God's word and coming 00:20:38.87\00:20:42.28 to know God. Then all of a sudden she started getting 00:20:42.31\00:20:46.12 filled, she started changing because her spiritual life was 00:20:46.15\00:20:49.23 changing which made her a whole lot more attractive to her 00:20:49.26\00:20:53.24 husband. It just works that way. But the intercessory prayer for 00:20:53.27\00:20:58.52 the husband and the family. God really moved. 00:20:58.55\00:21:02.41 As I said, we saw a lot of problems start happening, so 00:21:02.44\00:21:06.36 many, but we just kept praising and thanking God that we trusted 00:21:06.39\00:21:10.09 he was working. We were claiming his promises. But one of the 00:21:10.12\00:21:14.08 beautiful things was her heart desire was they could be 00:21:14.55\00:21:17.10 spiritually one. He said, Lets start praying together, let's 00:21:17.13\00:21:22.08 start studying together. That's on top of their own private 00:21:22.11\00:21:24.92 devotional time that they started doing it together. 00:21:24.95\00:21:28.63 One of the things he started praying, he did not know we'd 00:21:28.66\00:21:31.34 been praying this for him, but it was Lord give me a pure mind. 00:21:31.37\00:21:34.83 It was so precious. Years later she was dying of a disease and 00:21:34.86\00:21:43.24 he would pray for God to heal her and I believe God has, but 00:21:43.27\00:21:47.51 it will be at the resurrection morning. But before she passed 00:21:47.54\00:21:51.20 away, she called me to her bedside and she said, I just 00:21:51.23\00:21:53.76 wanted to thank you. I can't tell you how grateful I am that 00:21:53.79\00:21:59.34 you'd take time out of your busy schedule to pray with me once a 00:21:59.37\00:22:03.46 week for my marriage. She said I would not have been ready to 00:22:03.49\00:22:06.18 face death, because I had no assurance of salvation. I was 00:22:06.21\00:22:09.58 miserable. I hated my husband and what he did. She said now 00:22:09.61\00:22:13.81 our marriage is healed, I know God loves me. She said I'm ready 00:22:13.84\00:22:16.99 to die. During that process, they saw 00:22:17.02\00:22:18.91 several of the children converted too. They had children 00:22:18.94\00:22:21.53 that had gone away from the Lord and they prayed and prayed for 00:22:21.56\00:22:23.39 them as well. So, just over and over and over we see these kind 00:22:23.42\00:22:27.56 of experiences happen. The husband, too, later took me 00:22:27.59\00:22:30.40 aside and said, I can't thank you enough for what you did. 00:22:30.43\00:22:33.14 It's not me, you know, it's a God thing, but I was being 00:22:33.17\00:22:36.81 obedient to what God's asking me to do. He said, I wouldn't 00:22:36.84\00:22:40.54 have been ready for my wife to die, but our marriage is healed 00:22:40.57\00:22:43.41 now and we can handle it. 00:22:43.44\00:22:45.41 You know, Janet, I'm thinking you're sitting here telling her 00:22:45.44\00:22:47.65 I'm not a marriage counselor, but you know the best marriage 00:22:47.68\00:22:51.37 counselor that there was. You could usher her right before 00:22:51.40\00:22:54.39 the throne of the Lord to approach that throne of grace 00:22:54.42\00:22:57.98 to find mercy and help in at times of need. 00:22:58.01\00:22:59.81 Well, so many times somebody has a problem and they share that 00:22:59.84\00:23:04.41 problem with us and so many times we'll say you know I told 00:23:04.44\00:23:07.23 them everything I could think of to help them and I don't know 00:23:07.26\00:23:10.28 what else to do to help them. The thing we need to do is to 00:23:10.31\00:23:13.34 pray with them, not just for them, but to pray with them and 00:23:13.37\00:23:17.29 not just once. At times I'll have people say oh we've got 00:23:17.32\00:23:21.68 this problem with their school or whatever it is in their 00:23:21.71\00:23:24.97 church and I say well are you meeting together and praying 00:23:25.00\00:23:27.02 about it? Oh, we've tried that. I said, well how many times did 00:23:27.05\00:23:29.92 you meet? Oh, well we met at least three times. It's got to 00:23:30.98\00:23:35.67 be way more than that. It does not always; sometimes God 00:23:35.70\00:23:39.65 answers instantly, but it has to be that earnestness and some 00:23:39.68\00:23:43.91 times we give up too quickly and it shows that we really don't 00:23:43.94\00:23:46.71 have the faith to believe some times. 00:23:46.74\00:23:48.41 Yes, look at I Kings, Elijah. Elijah knew God was going to 00:23:48.45\00:23:53.24 send the rain after no rain for three years. Elijah was on the 00:23:53.27\00:23:58.12 mountain. God pours down fire on the altar and all these miracles 00:23:58.16\00:24:01.97 are happening, but Elijah knows God is going to send the rain 00:24:02.00\00:24:05.52 but yet Elijah kneels, he gets in a position like a woman 00:24:05.55\00:24:09.54 having a baby in labor, not the way women have them now, but 00:24:09.58\00:24:14.20 used to. He is just pleading for God and he prays; seven times 00:24:14.23\00:24:18.04 he is asking God. So much I hear people say oh we don't need to 00:24:18.08\00:24:21.38 pray about it; we prayed about it once or what will be will be. 00:24:21.41\00:24:25.52 God's word is not that way. Elijah pleaded before God seven 00:24:25.55\00:24:30.23 times. Daniel in Daniel 9 and 10 read this prophecy in God's 00:24:30.26\00:24:34.20 scripture showing that God is about to fulfill at the end of 00:24:34.23\00:24:37.44 70 years, this prophecy. Well Daniel could have looked at that 00:24:37.47\00:24:40.19 and said Oh that's wonderful, wow, our captivity is about to 00:24:40.22\00:24:42.79 end. God's going to take care of this. He could have stopped 00:24:42.82\00:24:46.10 there, but he didn't. He went into fasting and prayer, praying 00:24:46.13\00:24:49.37 for God to fulfill that. Now let me ask you a question. 00:24:49.40\00:24:52.67 I often will use this. What if Elijah, he prayed once, servant 00:24:52.70\00:24:58.02 came back and said there's no rain; twice, no rain; third time 00:24:58.05\00:25:03.30 fourth time. What if he had stopped at six times? He could 00:25:03.33\00:25:07.92 have just finally said, there's still no rain. We've got to 00:25:07.95\00:25:11.80 continue when God has impressed something upon us, when there's 00:25:11.83\00:25:15.64 a promise in the Bible that we can stand on, when there's 00:25:15.67\00:25:18.88 something that we know God is showing us to do, we need to 00:25:18.92\00:25:22.15 keep pressing in and pressing in until we get that answer. 00:25:22.18\00:25:25.98 But with joy, with praise and thanksgiving. I've done this 00:25:26.02\00:25:29.52 and I see other people do this. We can get so anxious and 00:25:29.55\00:25:32.99 distraught about it and just so upset that we can make ourselves 00:25:33.02\00:25:37.31 sick. That is not the kind of intercession that God's word 00:25:37.35\00:25:41.15 teaches. Well see, to me that's a lack of 00:25:41.18\00:25:43.62 faith almost, I mean, if you get to where you're so distraught 00:25:43.65\00:25:46.72 you're making yourself sick over it, isn't it? 00:25:46.76\00:25:48.90 But people can do that, especially about their children. 00:25:48.94\00:25:53.06 It's really got to be a focus on the word and claiming and 00:25:53.10\00:25:56.47 and praying his promises, praying his word. I love Psalms 00:25:56.50\00:25:59.88 because you find through it over and over again where he 00:25:59.91\00:26:03.22 expresses a problem but then he makes these faith statements. 00:26:03.26\00:26:06.51 I have written FS by all of these faith statements; God you 00:26:06.55\00:26:09.77 will do this, God you are going to come through. 00:26:09.80\00:26:12.76 So that's kind of praying the promises, praying back to God, 00:26:12.80\00:26:16.25 returning his word to him knowing it won't return void and 00:26:16.29\00:26:19.92 then thanking him, saying Lord I know you're going to come 00:26:19.95\00:26:23.33 through with thanksgiving. We have one minute left. What's 00:26:23.37\00:26:26.71 a final thought on intercessory prayer? 00:26:26.75\00:26:29.50 To me it's knowing God's heart. There's no point in intercessory 00:26:29.54\00:26:34.40 prayer if you don't spend time knowing God's heart and it's 00:26:34.43\00:26:38.09 such a joy to know his heart. It's the most thrilling thing in 00:26:38.13\00:26:41.75 life. We get so caught up chasing after things we think 00:26:41.78\00:26:44.60 will make us happy when the thing that will make us happy 00:26:44.63\00:26:47.74 is being still in his presence and letting him hold us and 00:26:47.78\00:26:50.45 finding out what's on his heart and how he wants us to pray 00:26:50.48\00:26:53.12 about it. You know, I love you Janet, and 00:26:53.15\00:26:55.02 I love the zeal and the passion that you have. 00:26:55.06\00:26:57.75 I love her, too, you know. Well you all are such a precious 00:26:57.78\00:27:01.29 couple. I want to thank you so much. We're enjoying so much 00:27:01.32\00:27:04.43 each of one of these programs that you've done and I thank you 00:27:04.46\00:27:07.53 that you're going to be coming back again soon. 00:27:07.57\00:27:09.36 You know, when we think about it a God of love does not force his 00:27:09.39\00:27:14.27 will on you, but it's like he's put self-imposed handcuffs of 00:27:14.30\00:27:19.14 love and when we pray for someone in intercessory prayer 00:27:19.18\00:27:24.08 it is the key that unlocks those cuffs and we give God permission 00:27:24.11\00:27:28.06 to work in someone's life. That's what this story was all 00:27:28.10\00:27:31.94 about that Janet shared is this wife and Janet prayed for her 00:27:31.98\00:27:35.84 husband giving God permission to do a work in his life. I just 00:27:35.87\00:27:39.51 want you to stand in the gap. Be one of those who says Lord 00:27:39.54\00:27:43.15 here am I; I'll be one who prays for others. 00:27:43.18\00:27:46.69 Now may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of the 00:27:46.73\00:27:49.98 Father and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit 00:27:50.01\00:27:51.94 be with you today and always. Thank you. 00:27:51.97\00:27:54.93