Welcome to Issues and Answers. 00:00:29.86\00:00:31.67 My name is J.D. Quinn. We have an interesting topic today, 00:00:31.70\00:00:36.28 marriage. I always like to start off with a scripture. 00:00:36.32\00:00:40.87 We're going to go to Genesis 2:24. 00:00:40.90\00:00:43.86 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be 00:00:43.90\00:00:48.24 united to his wife and they will become one flesh. 00:00:48.28\00:00:51.55 To break marriage down, we're going to talk about marital 00:00:51.58\00:00:56.02 expectations and we have some experts here on marital 00:00:56.05\00:01:00.06 expectations. Pastors Mike and Gayle Tucker from Arlington, 00:01:00.10\00:01:05.72 Texas. Welcome to Issues and Answers. Thank you. 00:01:05.76\00:01:09.50 Share real quickly something about yourself. 00:01:09.53\00:01:13.21 We are from Arlington. In Arlington we have a church that 00:01:13.24\00:01:17.47 we pastor together of almost 1800 members now. 00:01:17.51\00:01:21.25 And I understand that you're 00:01:21.28\00:01:22.99 commissioned and a credentialed 00:01:23.03\00:01:24.67 pastor yourself. Yes I am. I stay busy with the 00:01:24.70\00:01:28.63 children's ministries, women's ministries, kind of 00:01:28.67\00:01:32.53 administrative duties around the church and worship and music. 00:01:32.56\00:01:37.18 That's right, and I'm the senior pastor but I also am speaker/ 00:01:37.22\00:01:41.50 director for Faith for Today television. So we try to combine 00:01:41.53\00:01:45.32 all that together. We shoot one of the programs there at the 00:01:45.35\00:01:49.10 church when we do worship and then we also do Lifestyle 00:01:49.14\00:01:52.47 Magazine, The Evidence and a few other things like that. 00:01:52.51\00:01:55.80 Wasn't that William Fagal? 00:01:55.84\00:01:57.51 Yes William Fagal started this in 1950, May of 1950. 00:01:57.55\00:02:01.41 I know when I was growing up we used to always listen to 00:02:01.45\00:02:05.28 Faith for Today. Yes, that's right. We did too. 00:02:05.31\00:02:06.76 William and Virginia. Virginia is still alive and well. 00:02:06.79\00:02:09.48 She's doing great. Still driving her can in L.A. traffic. 00:02:09.52\00:02:12.17 Oh my goodness. Frightens me but she'll do it. 00:02:12.21\00:02:14.27 She's just as sharp as they come. 00:02:14.31\00:02:17.47 Marital expectations. Man that's a biggie right there because 00:02:17.50\00:02:23.20 I'm assuming what you're saying is that you enter into a 00:02:23.23\00:02:26.25 marriage expecting something. Where do we go with this? 00:02:26.28\00:02:29.32 They're kind of silent expectations. We don't always 00:02:29.36\00:02:32.25 know, we don't always put our finger on them and yet... 00:02:32.29\00:02:35.11 In research that was done over 20 years it was discovered that 00:02:35.15\00:02:40.85 there are about five things for men and about five things for 00:02:40.88\00:02:46.31 women that are typically their most common needs; the things 00:02:46.35\00:02:51.74 that they need in marriage. 00:02:51.78\00:02:53.38 These tend to be emotional needs and basically the person who 00:02:53.41\00:02:57.78 meets these emotional needs for you becomes irresistible. 00:02:57.81\00:03:01.66 Now the research was done by Willard Harley; most of this was 00:03:01.70\00:03:05.15 done by him. He's got a book entitled His Needs, Her Needs: 00:03:05.18\00:03:08.60 Building an Affair Proof Marriage and now he's working 00:03:08.64\00:03:11.15 with his daughter who is named Jennifer Chalmers and she also 00:03:11.18\00:03:16.05 has co-authored a book with him as well: How to Survive an 00:03:16.09\00:03:19.81 Affair. But they deal with these basic emotional needs in 00:03:19.85\00:03:23.97 marriage. Now we have added an emotional need that Harley has 00:03:24.01\00:03:28.20 not added and that is the need for spiritual intimacy. I think 00:03:28.24\00:03:31.88 that women are usually more keenly aware of this need than 00:03:31.91\00:03:35.48 are men, but it is a need that both of us have and when we find 00:03:35.51\00:03:40.13 that genuine spirituality together it draws us together, 00:03:40.16\00:03:44.13 it makes us one. In fact, I think that when a man is truly 00:03:44.16\00:03:48.19 the spiritual leader of his home and by that I mean a gracious 00:03:48.23\00:03:52.43 gentle, loving, kind leader who leads by example rather than by 00:03:52.47\00:03:57.46 fiat, that makes that man almost irresistible to his wife because 00:03:57.50\00:04:01.59 it draws her to him because that's what a woman really wants 00:04:01.62\00:04:05.68 in her home is a gentle, kind, spiritual leader. 00:04:05.71\00:04:08.71 That's absolutely true. You can talk to almost any young woman 00:04:08.75\00:04:13.09 who has any kind of a Christian or spiritual background and one 00:04:13.13\00:04:16.82 thing that she wants is to have someone who will be a spiritual 00:04:16.86\00:04:20.52 leader, who will share that with her. Sometimes guys don't 00:04:20.55\00:04:24.38 recognize that fact. They think they have to be Mr. Handsome. 00:04:24.42\00:04:27.52 They have to have the right car, they have to make enough money, 00:04:27.55\00:04:30.70 and they don't realize that what she really wants is someone 00:04:30.74\00:04:33.85 that's willing to connect with God. 00:04:33.88\00:04:35.48 And lead that whole family in that process. Gayle tells me 00:04:35.51\00:04:41.69 that she's most attracted to me when I preach. 00:04:41.73\00:04:44.88 That's really true. Which just shocked me to no 00:04:44.91\00:04:48.00 end, it really did. But that makes me feel good to know that 00:04:48.03\00:04:53.77 I can be a spiritual mentor for my wife; as I preach that that 00:04:53.81\00:04:59.51 draws her to me. What makes it absolutely to me 00:04:59.55\00:05:04.07 fantastic is that this is when the Holy Spirit is working 00:05:04.10\00:05:08.70 through you and this is when Pastor Mike Tucker probably is 00:05:08.74\00:05:13.09 at his best because he is surrendered to the Holy Spirit. 00:05:13.13\00:05:16.60 So that says a lot about you of what you're seeing in your 00:05:16.64\00:05:20.07 husband. And even though all of us are 00:05:20.11\00:05:23.44 imperfect people, Mike is an imperfect person, I can see a 00:05:23.47\00:05:27.43 consistency in his life that what he preaches is what he 00:05:27.46\00:05:31.90 also endeavors to live out in his life at home. And if that 00:05:31.94\00:05:36.31 were not true... There are a lot of pastors wives who don't ever 00:05:36.34\00:05:40.50 want to hear their husband preach because there's an 00:05:40.53\00:05:43.47 incongruence there. But if there is a congruency between what he 00:05:43.51\00:05:46.96 says in the pulpit and what he lives in his life, then that's 00:05:47.00\00:05:50.87 extremely attractive because I know that he's allowing the Lord 00:05:50.91\00:05:55.75 to speak and he's putting his efforts into sharing that with 00:05:55.78\00:06:00.59 people around. And I think that women will see 00:06:00.62\00:06:03.83 spirituality as a gentleness. Sometimes as a man we think 00:06:03.86\00:06:08.34 well I'm going to make the family toe the line. I've got 00:06:08.38\00:06:11.58 this, this and this we're going to do. I'm going to get it 00:06:11.61\00:06:15.19 organized. But I think that a woman sees genuine spirituality 00:06:15.22\00:06:18.97 in someone who leads by example and is gentle and kind and 00:06:19.01\00:06:22.73 loving and respectful for others. 00:06:22.76\00:06:24.32 Well spirituality is simply living out the spirit of Christ. 00:06:24.36\00:06:28.85 And to know that you husband would deal with the family in 00:06:28.89\00:06:32.84 the way that Christ dealt with people and that your wife would 00:06:32.87\00:06:36.23 deal with the family in the way that Christ dealt with people. 00:06:36.26\00:06:40.11 There's a gentleness and a love that just surpasses everything 00:06:40.14\00:06:43.95 else and you can't get better than that. 00:06:43.99\00:06:46.49 No you can't. Men and women both have this 00:06:46.53\00:06:48.96 need but the problem is that after that the needs get 00:06:49.00\00:06:52.94 different. Women need a different set of things than 00:06:52.97\00:06:56.80 men do emotionally in marriage. Okay and they are? 00:06:56.83\00:07:00.58 Okay and again Willard Harley has shared this. I'm going to 00:07:00.62\00:07:03.22 share with you first of all some of the women's needs and I do 00:07:03.25\00:07:06.07 that for a specific reason. God has invited men to be head of 00:07:06.11\00:07:09.19 the household and that does not mean that we're the lawgiver 00:07:09.22\00:07:12.27 but it means that we take the initiative in love first. 00:07:12.30\00:07:16.43 Jesus said husbands love your wives even as Christ loved the 00:07:16.46\00:07:19.62 church and gave himself for it. Christ had a self-sacrificial 00:07:19.66\00:07:22.86 love for the church and that's how we are to love our wives. 00:07:22.90\00:07:26.38 So basically we are to meet the needs of our wives first 00:07:26.42\00:07:29.83 because if she meets our needs without our having met hers she 00:07:29.86\00:07:33.96 feels cheap and tawdry and we don't want to go there. So the 00:07:34.00\00:07:37.83 very first need that I think most women have in marriage is 00:07:37.87\00:07:41.52 the need for affection. And affection is different than 00:07:41.55\00:07:46.10 foreplay. There's a big confusion of that in most men's 00:07:46.14\00:07:50.62 minds. Affection is romance. It's tenderness, it's kindness, 00:07:50.66\00:07:54.21 it's sitting on the couch and cuddling, it's giving her 00:07:54.25\00:07:57.85 flowers for no reason, it's remembering birthdays and 00:07:57.89\00:08:00.87 holidays and anniversaries with sentimental rather than 00:08:00.90\00:08:04.20 practical gifts. It's telling her that she's pretty. It's 00:08:04.23\00:08:07.46 remembering those times together That's affection. It's basically 00:08:07.50\00:08:12.24 romance, the knight in shining armor it is to be. 00:08:12.28\00:08:15.57 And even above romance I think affection for a woman is 00:08:15.61\00:08:23.42 gentleness and tenderness and most often it's played out in 00:08:23.46\00:08:31.24 the tone of voice. When Mike 00:08:31.28\00:08:33.91 speaks to me if he speaks to me 00:08:33.95\00:08:36.20 with respect and gentleness and 00:08:36.23\00:08:38.29 tenderness, that's going to go 00:08:38.32\00:08:40.31 far above just about anything else. That their affection is 00:08:40.34\00:08:45.81 touch but it's nonsexual touch. It's just a touch that says I 00:08:45.85\00:08:50.61 care about you, it's holding hands or its just rubbing the 00:08:50.64\00:08:55.72 shoulders or just a gentle touch as you pass in the hallway. 00:08:55.76\00:09:00.12 An arm around the shoulder. It's holding one another but not 00:09:00.16\00:09:04.49 necessarily. It's just the communication of 00:09:04.52\00:09:08.81 all sorts that says I love you I value you, you are a person 00:09:08.85\00:09:13.80 that I want to be with. That's right. 00:09:13.83\00:09:15.69 Well hope men are listening to 00:09:15.72\00:09:17.95 this because this is a tough 00:09:17.99\00:09:19.99 issue right here because there 00:09:20.02\00:09:21.81 are mixed signals aren't there? 00:09:21.85\00:09:23.57 If the only time that I touch my wife is when I want something 00:09:23.60\00:09:27.26 from her, she will resent my touch, she will resent it. 00:09:27.29\00:09:32.07 The second need for women is conversation. 00:09:32.11\00:09:35.40 And conversation... they say that women have more words than 00:09:35.43\00:09:40.07 men and men use theirs all up while they're out at work and 00:09:40.10\00:09:44.92 then they don't have any to use at home, but I don't know if 00:09:44.96\00:09:49.75 that's true or not. Well I think that's true. 00:09:49.78\00:09:53.63 For a lot of men I think so. 00:09:53.67\00:09:54.64 But I do know that women desire to share their lives through 00:09:54.65\00:09:58.25 conversation, through just talking about the day's events. 00:09:58.29\00:10:01.59 Talking about what's happening in your life, what's happening 00:10:01.62\00:10:06.51 in my life. Men can help fulfill that need by simply thinking 00:10:06.55\00:10:11.40 throughout the day, you know this happened; I'm going to 00:10:11.44\00:10:14.35 share this with my wife when I get home. Think up a few things 00:10:14.39\00:10:19.31 that you can tell her about and you can share. Women are also 00:10:19.35\00:10:23.92 looking for conversation that's uninterrupted, that's not over 00:10:23.96\00:10:27.97 the paper, Yes hon, you know and the paper's still there. 00:10:28.01\00:10:33.04 Why are you giggling here? She knows you're not listening 00:10:33.07\00:10:38.07 when you do that. You know, our lives are busy and 00:10:38.10\00:10:43.10 there are so many things going on that sometimes it's hard to 00:10:43.13\00:10:46.87 ever find time to just actually sit down and face-to-face, 00:10:46.90\00:10:50.36 eye-to-eye to share with one another but it's important to do 00:10:50.39\00:10:53.80 that or even at night when you are lying in bed before you go 00:10:53.83\00:10:57.86 to sleep to just talk together, share the day's events, share 00:10:57.90\00:11:01.24 something you read from the Bible, talk about what happened 00:11:01.28\00:11:04.92 with the children and just make sure that there are times that 00:11:04.96\00:11:08.57 you actually spend together and that you share together. 00:11:08.60\00:11:11.49 Another need for women is the need for commitment. 00:11:11.53\00:11:14.49 Women need to know that their husband is committed to the 00:11:14.53\00:11:19.46 family, that their family comes above work and all the other 00:11:19.50\00:11:24.56 things, hobbies, the golf game, whatever. Not that those things 00:11:24.59\00:11:28.66 are not important and that he shouldn't be able to engage in 00:11:28.69\00:11:32.72 those. Those are important as well, but you can send a 00:11:32.76\00:11:36.84 message to your wife that says above all of those things come 00:11:36.87\00:11:40.38 you and the children if there are children in your home. 00:11:40.41\00:11:44.18 That I am totally committed to you. God has given you to me 00:11:44.22\00:11:48.53 and I will do everything in my power to let you know that I 00:11:48.57\00:11:52.62 love you, that I will provide a secure place for you, I am 00:11:52.66\00:11:56.68 committed to this family. 00:11:56.72\00:11:57.69 Women spell commitment the same way they spell love, T-I-M-E. 00:11:57.70\00:12:02.51 So if I'm giving adequate time to my wife and to my family then 00:12:02.54\00:12:07.48 they know that I'm committed and 00:12:07.51\00:12:09.20 that I love. There's only one 00:12:09.23\00:12:10.76 commitment in my life that can 00:12:10.80\00:12:12.29 supersede my commitment to my 00:12:12.32\00:12:13.74 wife and my family and that is my commitment to Jesus Christ. 00:12:13.78\00:12:17.23 But everything else comes after my family and that's commitment 00:12:17.26\00:12:20.68 It means that the word divorce is not going to enter my 00:12:20.72\00:12:23.65 vocabulary. We're going to find options, we're going to find 00:12:23.69\00:12:26.13 solutions to our problems. Another need for women in 00:12:26.16\00:12:30.59 marriage has to do with openness and honesty. That means that my 00:12:30.62\00:12:35.03 life has to be transparent before Gayle and I have to be 00:12:35.07\00:12:38.63 totally honest before her. I can't have hidden emotions 00:12:38.67\00:12:42.16 before this woman. When she says what's wrong and I say nothing, 00:12:42.20\00:12:45.53 it had better be nothing or I have just been closed before 00:12:45.57\00:12:49.72 this woman. So I need to be open and honest about my emotions, 00:12:49.75\00:12:53.51 but I also need to be open and honest about the events of my 00:12:53.54\00:12:57.35 life. We've been married for 31 years and Gayle has never had 00:12:57.39\00:13:02.20 reason to doubt my fidelity and yet to this day she has my 00:13:02.24\00:13:06.29 permission to check my Day Timer to call me to check on me. 00:13:06.33\00:13:10.18 I'm not going to lie to her. I want to be honest about the 00:13:10.22\00:13:13.83 events of my life, about the schedule of my day so that she 00:13:13.86\00:13:17.83 has perfect trust in me. That is something that I must earn 00:13:17.86\00:13:23.06 from her. I must win that right for her to trust me. And I do 00:13:23.10\00:13:28.27 that by openness and by honesty. Some men lie in order to protect 00:13:28.31\00:13:31.34 their spouse. That's always a mistake. Some men lie in order 00:13:31.38\00:13:35.05 to protect themselves, that's a bigger mistake. Some men lie 00:13:35.09\00:13:38.27 because they're habitual liars. You know they're lying, their 00:13:38.31\00:13:41.82 lips are moving. That's even the biggest mistake, because a woman 00:13:41.86\00:13:44.93 has to be able to trust you, to know that what you are saying 00:13:44.97\00:13:48.65 is true. You have to be open and honest before her or else how 00:13:48.69\00:13:52.75 could she give herself and her life to you. She's taken on your 00:13:52.78\00:13:56.00 name, she's surrendered most everything else about her life 00:13:56.04\00:13:59.25 in order to be with your and if you're not going to be open and 00:13:59.28\00:14:03.04 honest with her there can be no trust. So openness and honesty 00:14:03.08\00:14:06.81 are very essential I think in this relationship. 00:14:06.84\00:14:09.38 The last of the most common five needs is financial support. 00:14:09.42\00:14:14.24 It's important to a woman to know that her husband desires 00:14:14.27\00:14:18.89 to support the family, that he wants to be the breadwinner. 00:14:18.92\00:14:23.12 He wants to make sure that there is enough, that things are 00:14:23.15\00:14:27.00 provided. Now that doesn't mean that the woman can't also work 00:14:27.04\00:14:30.85 and most women don't resent having to contribute, helping 00:14:30.89\00:14:36.09 out if they have to work part time or full time as long as 00:14:36.12\00:14:41.05 they know that within his heart is the idea that he is the 00:14:41.09\00:14:45.15 provider for this family and that he desires to do that. 00:14:45.19\00:14:50.34 He desires to provide. It does not have to be millions of 00:14:50.37\00:14:55.49 dollars or anything like that. 00:14:55.52\00:14:56.81 Which is fortunate for me. 00:14:56.85\00:14:58.13 Yeah, it's a good thing. 00:14:58.17\00:14:59.38 Because I'm not going to make millions of dollars. 00:14:59.41\00:15:02.68 We run across situations every once in a while where the woman 00:15:02.72\00:15:08.42 provides more funds than the man brings in. Sometimes that's a 00:15:08.45\00:15:14.12 problem for the man. It is sometimes for the man. 00:15:14.16\00:15:16.78 Sometimes it becomes an issue. I think for most women it does 00:15:16.82\00:15:21.32 not matter, you know, if I made more money than Mike but I still 00:15:21.36\00:15:25.97 know that he considers himself to be the provider. Then to me 00:15:26.00\00:15:30.58 that need is fulfilled. He's doing everything that he can do 00:15:30.62\00:15:35.16 in his area, his career, whatever it happens to be. 00:15:35.20\00:15:38.01 Men have to be open minded enough about this to realize 00:15:38.05\00:15:40.80 that their position as a man is not determined by how much money 00:15:40.83\00:15:46.42 they make or whether or not they make more than their wife. 00:15:46.46\00:15:49.40 There has to be a level of security within a man to be able 00:15:49.43\00:15:52.72 to deal with that. But still if the desire of his heart is to 00:15:52.75\00:15:56.38 provide for his wife, that's all we're talking about, that's the 00:15:56.41\00:16:00.00 key. There's a miracle to me that 00:16:00.03\00:16:01.77 happens. You know, Mike and I came from different backgrounds, 00:16:01.80\00:16:05.19 didn't know each other until a few months before we got 00:16:05.22\00:16:08.88 married and on the day we got married suddenly there is in 00:16:08.92\00:16:14.62 this man's heart a desire to support me financially. All of a 00:16:14.65\00:16:19.11 sudden everything that he has is mine. Do you have money for 00:16:19.14\00:16:23.08 this, do you need that. That's just miraculous in my mind. 00:16:23.12\00:16:27.35 It's something that God puts in the heart of a man and it's a 00:16:27.39\00:16:31.83 wonderful thing and it fulfills a great need within me because 00:16:31.87\00:16:35.86 it gives me security of knowing that he desires to care for me 00:16:35.89\00:16:39.84 and my family. Wonderfully put, that is 00:16:39.88\00:16:43.77 wonderfully put. It's so true. 00:16:43.81\00:16:45.82 Those are the five most basic needs for a woman in marriage. 00:16:45.86\00:16:49.54 And every woman may be a little bit different. Some women may 00:16:49.58\00:16:53.23 say well that one is not on my list or that would be a 00:16:53.27\00:16:55.80 different order and that's fine. It doesn't make them strange, 00:16:55.83\00:16:59.07 it makes them you, you know, I mean it's okay to be that way 00:16:59.10\00:17:02.07 as long as you know what that list is and you share that with 00:17:02.10\00:17:05.30 your husband. And your husband needs to know what that is. 00:17:05.34\00:17:08.47 Now those needs must be met in order for the husband's needs to 00:17:08.51\00:17:12.45 be met or again the woman will feel cheap and tawdry. So let's 00:17:12.49\00:17:15.92 go to the man's needs and the number one need for most men 00:17:15.96\00:17:19.36 in marriage is sexual fulfillment and that means that 00:17:19.40\00:17:23.01 she is available for and willing to be a participant in the act 00:17:23.05\00:17:26.90 of love making. Again, not every man will be on that same page 00:17:26.94\00:17:30.28 some will have a different list and that's fine; it doesn't make 00:17:30.32\00:17:33.35 them less of a man. But most men will report that this is the 00:17:33.38\00:17:36.53 number one way that their wife can demonstrate to them that 00:17:36.56\00:17:39.74 she loves him and that she cares for him. Now there's an 00:17:39.78\00:17:42.94 interesting thing about this particular need. A man is 00:17:42.97\00:17:46.06 completely vulnerable to a wife for this need. Gayles need for 00:17:46.10\00:17:49.49 conversation I need to be the number one supplier of that but 00:17:49.53\00:17:52.86 she can also talk to other people and fulfill some of that 00:17:52.90\00:17:56.25 need. Affection: I'm the number one supplier for that but she 00:17:56.29\00:17:59.43 can also have hugs with other people or have other people 00:17:59.46\00:18:02.29 say nice things to her and it doesn't violate the marriage. 00:18:02.33\00:18:05.71 But if I fulfill any portion of my need for sexual fulfillment 00:18:05.75\00:18:09.19 outside of the marriage vow, the marriage relationship, I have 00:18:09.23\00:18:12.46 just violated the marriage vow which makes me totally dependent 00:18:12.50\00:18:15.70 before this woman for this particular need. So a lot of 00:18:15.74\00:18:18.86 communication has to go on here to know exactly am I meeting 00:18:18.89\00:18:22.62 that need, is this being fulfilled in you. And that's the 00:18:22.66\00:18:26.32 number one need for most men in marriage is sexual fulfillment. 00:18:26.36\00:18:29.53 The second need is for an attractive spouse. That doesn't 00:18:29.56\00:18:33.87 mean that she has to be some model pertaining to this 00:18:33.90\00:18:38.14 unrealistic idea of feminine beauty that we have because of 00:18:38.17\00:18:41.91 the media today. That's not what we're talking about at all. 00:18:41.94\00:18:45.99 It means that Gayle does her best to make herself attractive 00:18:46.03\00:18:49.85 for me. She dresses well. She takes care of her hair. She 00:18:49.88\00:18:53.45 keeps her weight in line. She does her best to make herself 00:18:53.48\00:18:57.90 look good for me. I even tell women that what they wear to bed 00:18:57.93\00:19:02.30 should be attractive. We have a little agreement; I buy Gayle's 00:19:02.34\00:19:06.20 nighties. You know if she wears it to bed it's because I bought 00:19:06.23\00:19:10.05 it. Now I've learned over the years not to have as many 00:19:10.09\00:19:13.88 mistakes in what I buy. I've got a drawer full of mistakes where 00:19:13.91\00:19:18.12 she said over my dead body and so that goes over here; it won't 00:19:18.16\00:19:21.45 be worn, but I have learned what she feels comfortable wearing 00:19:21.49\00:19:25.26 and what I like seeing her in so that's what I buy for her. 00:19:25.30\00:19:29.58 Because Gayle wants to look nice for me. In the back of every 00:19:29.61\00:19:33.85 man's mind he understands something that he may not be 00:19:33.89\00:19:37.16 able to put in words and that is that is that in part his 00:19:37.20\00:19:41.35 competence as a man will be judged by other men by what 00:19:41.38\00:19:45.46 his wife looks like. Now there's nothing fair about this, there's 00:19:45.50\00:19:50.02 nothing right about it but this is just life as it is; that 00:19:50.06\00:19:54.69 other men will judge you and your competence by how your wife 00:19:54.72\00:19:58.38 looks and by the way, you look pretty good because of her. 00:19:58.41\00:20:02.03 You've married an attractive woman. 00:20:02.06\00:20:04.81 Well I think so. She's intelligent and competent 00:20:04.85\00:20:09.45 as well and a spiritual woman as well which makes you look 00:20:09.48\00:20:12.72 very good. And I feel the same thing is true in my life as well 00:20:12.75\00:20:17.71 It is true. So my competence as a man is 00:20:17.74\00:20:20.97 gaged in part by how she looks but also a man is visually 00:20:21.01\00:20:25.12 stimulated even more so than a woman is. We are visual 00:20:25.16\00:20:29.20 creatures and so it's important that she does her best to look 00:20:29.24\00:20:31.75 her best for me. So those are the first two needs. 00:20:31.78\00:20:35.06 All right. The next one is a recreational companion. 00:20:35.09\00:20:38.29 recreational companionship is important for men. When you 00:20:38.33\00:20:42.57 think about how people get together when they date at first 00:20:42.61\00:20:45.88 there are things that they do together that they really enjoy. 00:20:45.91\00:20:49.15 Often we have the problem of 00:20:49.18\00:20:51.44 once we kind of get into the daily grind of being married 00:20:51.48\00:20:54.68 we stop doing those things and 00:20:54.72\00:20:56.55 the man is going well how come 00:20:56.59\00:20:58.65 we never go play anymore? How 00:20:58.68\00:21:00.67 come we never do this and the wife is going well I'm busy, you 00:21:00.71\00:21:04.53 go ahead, go out and go on with the guys. Well the fact is women 00:21:04.56\00:21:08.35 bond by shared emotions. 00:21:08.38\00:21:10.47 And that's why the conversation thing is so important to them. 00:21:10.51\00:21:13.72 That's important. But men bond by shared activity and women 00:21:13.76\00:21:17.24 need to be aware of that. So if men are bonding to the people 00:21:17.28\00:21:20.77 that they are sharing activity with who do you want them to 00:21:20.80\00:21:24.03 bond with? Do you always want your husband to be out bonding 00:21:24.07\00:21:27.45 with someone else or do you want them to bond with you? So we 00:21:27.48\00:21:30.83 need to maintain a playful attitude. Let's have fun 00:21:30.86\00:21:34.85 together, let's do things together; whatever it happens 00:21:34.89\00:21:38.81 to be. Maybe you like to golf together. Maybe you like to play 00:21:38.84\00:21:43.80 chess together. Maybe you're bird watchers. Whatever you 00:21:43.83\00:21:47.11 happen to do don't stop doing it. Women need to be aware that 00:21:47.14\00:21:51.99 their husband is drawn close to them when they have this 00:21:52.03\00:21:57.30 activity together. They need a buddy and a pal. 00:21:57.33\00:21:59.67 I know in our situation, I love 00:21:59.70\00:22:02.10 to play golf. Well and what does 00:22:02.14\00:22:04.09 Shelley do? She goes out and 00:22:04.12\00:22:06.22 takes lessons. I'm more athletic 00:22:06.25\00:22:08.26 that Shelley is and so it comes 00:22:08.29\00:22:10.23 easier for me than it does for her but she goes out and she 00:22:10.26\00:22:13.92 takes lessons and she's right out there playing and it brings 00:22:13.96\00:22:17.58 joy to my heart. Absolutely. You can do it 00:22:17.62\00:22:20.02 together. You know, we actually did the same thing. We play golf 00:22:20.05\00:22:25.39 together and Mike is a much better golfer than I am so we 00:22:25.42\00:22:29.27 figured out how to do it for the two of us. We play best ball 00:22:29.30\00:22:33.28 when we go together. That way he's not up on the green and I'm 00:22:33.31\00:22:37.25 out in the trees somewhere. Whoever hits the best shot 00:22:37.29\00:22:42.10 that's where we go and sometimes we take mine. I usually tell him 00:22:42.14\00:22:48.71 whenever we take the first shot of mine during the day I'm like 00:22:48.75\00:22:55.29 okay I'm good now. I had some value in coming here today 00:22:55.32\00:22:59.95 because we took one of my shots. But it works well for us to do 00:22:59.99\00:23:04.46 that. It does. And we're both 00:23:04.49\00:23:05.46 competitive so we also have another agreement with our golf 00:23:05.47\00:23:08.89 game. We don't give golf tips to one another. We don't go there. 00:23:08.92\00:23:14.69 Then we have a great time together, we really do. 00:23:14.73\00:23:17.16 Yeah, we just enjoy being out there. No phones, no 00:23:17.20\00:23:19.60 anything. Well we better move on. 00:23:19.63\00:23:22.69 Okay. The next one has to do with domestic support. Now you 00:23:22.73\00:23:27.15 notice I didn't say a domestic slave, but domestic support. 00:23:27.19\00:23:30.93 I help around the house and especially when the children 00:23:30.96\00:23:34.84 were in the home and Gayle had to go back to work, I became 00:23:34.88\00:23:38.58 laundry man. To this day it's been 20 some years and I still 00:23:38.62\00:23:42.26 sort, I know how to do delicates I can presoak, I separate colors 00:23:42.29\00:23:46.07 well and so I do laundry. That's what I do to help around the 00:23:46.10\00:23:49.84 house, one of the things I do. But the homemaker... 00:23:49.88\00:23:52.53 Man your stock just went way up. 00:23:52.57\00:23:54.70 But the homemaker in my home is definitely Gayle. 00:23:54.74\00:24:00.19 She decorates our home. She's the cook. When the children were 00:24:00.22\00:24:04.28 small it was my turn to cook they really did not appreciate 00:24:04.31\00:24:08.09 the charcoal that I offered them so they learned rather quickly 00:24:08.13\00:24:12.45 in self-defense. But Gayle is a wonderful homemaker, a cook 00:24:12.48\00:24:16.56 and raising our children, I participated in raising our 00:24:16.60\00:24:19.99 children. I was a part of that, but I have to tell you the 00:24:20.03\00:24:23.55 lion's share of the work was done by Gayle. And we have 00:24:23.59\00:24:27.17 wonderful children. They love the Lord, they're active in 00:24:27.20\00:24:30.60 his service today, but I believe that a lot of that has to do 00:24:30.64\00:24:33.99 with Gayle's activity in the home. She was definitely the 00:24:34.02\00:24:37.33 homemaker and made it work for us. 00:24:37.37\00:24:39.00 The very last one is ego support You know ego is a fragile thing. 00:24:39.03\00:24:45.32 Basically he needs to know from his wife that he is respected 00:24:45.36\00:24:50.96 and loved and supported; that she looks at him and says you 00:24:51.00\00:24:55.54 know you are a valuable person and that she communicates that 00:24:55.58\00:24:59.78 to him. Often it's easy for women to get caught up in well 00:24:59.82\00:25:03.95 we need to fix this and this and this and that seems to be all he 00:25:03.99\00:25:07.42 hears when he walks through the door. Well did you take care of 00:25:07.45\00:25:10.85 that, what about that, is this done? 00:25:10.89\00:25:12.60 And why hasn't this happened yet 00:25:12.63\00:25:13.91 Why haven't you done whatever and the list goes on. It's not 00:25:13.95\00:25:18.75 that she doesn't love him or care for him but she's not 00:25:18.79\00:25:22.75 conscious of the fact that she needs to show him admiration. 00:25:22.79\00:25:27.16 A man needs to be admired by his wife and it's amazing what 00:25:27.20\00:25:31.62 happens when you express to your husband that you know you did 00:25:31.65\00:25:36.21 that really well. Thank you for doing this with the kids today. 00:25:36.25\00:25:40.77 You just notice the fact that he's made an effort to do 00:25:40.80\00:25:43.54 something for his family. Pretty soon you'll find him doing all 00:25:43.57\00:25:47.44 kinds of things because people respond to that and especially 00:25:47.48\00:25:51.39 men respond to knowing that they are admired and respected. 00:25:51.43\00:25:54.73 When men don't receive the respect that they think they 00:25:54.76\00:25:57.99 deserve they withdraw. They just say well forget it. If this is 00:25:58.03\00:26:01.40 the way it's going to be I'm just out of here and they shut 00:26:01.43\00:26:04.76 down emotionally and physically they shut down. 00:26:04.80\00:26:07.06 And nagging comes into this. 00:26:07.09\00:26:08.98 Well it does. You know all of a sudden you've 00:26:09.01\00:26:11.01 lost that motivation. You can destroy a man's 00:26:11.05\00:26:12.98 masculinity by nagging. You just destroy him and he no 00:26:13.02\00:26:16.51 longer feels a man. But a man believes what his wife tells him 00:26:16.54\00:26:20.04 and if she tells you you're the greatest thing on two wheels 00:26:20.07\00:26:23.53 he's going to believe you. 00:26:23.57\00:26:25.02 Well needless to say the clock is our enemy once again. 00:26:25.05\00:26:31.97 In one minute wrap this up. 00:26:32.00\00:26:35.20 We all come to marriage with expectations and needs and most 00:26:35.23\00:26:39.94 of those needs are emotional. When our spouse meets those 00:26:39.97\00:26:44.07 needs we become irresistible to that person. No one is ever 00:26:44.10\00:26:47.59 going to meet those needs perfectly. What we have to do 00:26:47.63\00:26:51.04 is we view 100% effort as having perfectly met my need. If she's 00:26:51.08\00:26:56.51 trying it's met and I'm going to value that and I'm going to 00:26:56.54\00:27:00.19 celebrate that and rejoice in that. So our job is to 00:27:00.22\00:27:03.40 understand what our spouse's needs are and give ourselves 00:27:03.43\00:27:06.29 to meeting those needs. 00:27:06.32\00:27:07.33 Amen. Fifteen seconds. What would you say? 00:27:07.37\00:27:10.94 Well I would say that God has given us a wonderful gift in one 00:27:10.98\00:27:14.75 another and when we take the time to try to meet the needs 00:27:14.79\00:27:19.61 of the other individual we will be rewarded far beyond what we 00:27:19.64\00:27:24.43 could imagine. 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