Welcome to "Issues and Answers." My name is J.D. Quinn. 00:00:29.67\00:00:33.05 Glad that you are able to join us today. 00:00:33.08\00:00:35.17 Today we have a wonderful topic called 00:00:35.20\00:00:37.55 "The Issue of Mate Selection." 00:00:37.58\00:00:40.60 I like to start off with a scripture. 00:00:40.63\00:00:44.28 Our scripture today is taken from 2 Corinthians 6:14-15. 00:00:44.31\00:00:49.87 "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. 00:00:49.90\00:00:52.83 For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? 00:00:52.86\00:00:55.83 Or what fellowship can have light with darkness? 00:00:55.86\00:00:59.04 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? 00:00:59.07\00:01:01.90 And what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?" 00:01:01.93\00:01:05.54 We have some experts on this particular topic today. 00:01:05.57\00:01:09.44 And so I'm glad to introduce you 00:01:09.47\00:01:12.10 to Pastor Mike Tucker and Pastor Gayle Tucker. 00:01:12.13\00:01:16.66 And they are from Arlington, Texas in the Metroplex area 00:01:16.69\00:01:19.97 and they manage a church there of 1,800 members, 00:01:20.00\00:01:23.48 a large church. That's right. 00:01:23.51\00:01:25.06 And not only that, but you're also the Speaker 00:01:25.09\00:01:27.60 and Director for "Faith For Today." That's right. 00:01:27.63\00:01:29.64 Which I would assume is a fulltime job there. 00:01:29.67\00:01:31.60 It is indeed. 00:01:31.63\00:01:33.00 And of course his lovely wife, she is-- 00:01:33.03\00:01:36.24 I think handles administrative duties of that large church 00:01:36.27\00:01:40.39 plus the Children's Ministry, the Worship Ministry, 00:01:40.42\00:01:44.02 and probably no tongue what else? 00:01:44.05\00:01:46.00 Several other things, but we have a good time. 00:01:46.03\00:01:48.24 I can imagine. 00:01:48.27\00:01:49.64 Would you like to share anything in additional to that? 00:01:49.67\00:01:52.38 Oh, just-- the fact that the Lord has blessed 00:01:52.41\00:01:54.59 with Faith For Today's Ministry 00:01:54.62\00:01:56.09 and we're excited about things coming up. 00:01:56.12\00:01:58.34 We're shooting new lifestyle magazines 00:01:58.37\00:02:00.47 and we're also going to be doing 00:02:00.50\00:02:02.53 a NET 2007 right there from Arlington. 00:02:02.56\00:02:05.88 So the Lord has been blessing. We got a lot in our plate. 00:02:05.91\00:02:09.15 I know today is a topic that there's many, 00:02:09.18\00:02:11.69 many people are interested in 00:02:11.72\00:02:13.77 and that is mate selection. 00:02:13.80\00:02:16.41 So why don't we just get right into middle of all of that 00:02:16.44\00:02:19.48 and just kind of-and bond over this. 00:02:19.51\00:02:21.50 Dive right in. Yes. 00:02:21.53\00:02:23.35 We have a young congregation 00:02:23.38\00:02:25.34 and a lot of singles in our congregation 00:02:25.37\00:02:28.24 and a lot of them would like to no longer be single. Amen. 00:02:28.27\00:02:31.83 And so as they talk about that they have asked-- 00:02:31.86\00:02:33.99 you know, how do you go about this process? 00:02:34.02\00:02:36.85 I think the first thing is to begin 00:02:36.88\00:02:38.45 to think about God's timing 00:02:38.48\00:02:40.17 and God's will for your life, those are key issues. 00:02:40.20\00:02:43.04 'Cause God may say yes to marriage 00:02:43.07\00:02:44.80 but not right now and if you push ahead to make it now, 00:02:44.83\00:02:47.87 then you're out of His timing. 00:02:47.90\00:02:49.86 There are also others-- who God says, 00:02:49.89\00:02:52.17 you know, marriage may not be the option for you. 00:02:52.20\00:02:54.42 It may not be the right thing for you. 00:02:54.45\00:02:56.24 In such case we should not view 00:02:56.27\00:02:57.80 singleness as a disease. Absolutely. 00:02:57.83\00:03:00.42 You know singleness is all right. 00:03:00.45\00:03:02.18 And in fact the Apostle Paul said 00:03:02.21\00:03:03.82 that he wish that everyone can be like him and live that way. 00:03:03.85\00:03:07.84 But not everyone can nor should everyone, 00:03:07.87\00:03:10.45 but still if that's what God has for you, 00:03:10.48\00:03:12.29 that's what you need. 00:03:12.32\00:03:13.69 And we need to go with that. 00:03:13.72\00:03:15.24 But after that then if indeed we feel like 00:03:15.27\00:03:17.47 that this is God's will and maybe even His timing 00:03:17.50\00:03:19.66 and we want to start this process, 00:03:19.69\00:03:21.85 then we start to look first of all inside, don't we? 00:03:21.88\00:03:25.04 And strangely enough, I think the first thing 00:03:25.07\00:03:26.99 is not to look to find a mate, 00:03:27.02\00:03:29.49 but to look to be the right mate. 00:03:29.52\00:03:31.48 Yeah. Amen. 00:03:31.51\00:03:32.88 And when we start to grow spiritually, 00:03:32.91\00:03:35.66 emotionally, intellectually, 00:03:35.69\00:03:38.60 that is what is going to make us 00:03:38.63\00:03:40.34 the right person to be in relationship. 00:03:40.37\00:03:43.53 Cloud and Townsend wrote a book this is-- 00:03:43.56\00:03:45.48 it's called "21 Days to a Happy Marriage." 00:03:45.51\00:03:48.24 And each day you're supposed to do one thing, 00:03:48.27\00:03:51.03 you know, that you learned about relationships. 00:03:51.06\00:03:53.62 And the very first thing is to grow, 00:03:53.65\00:03:56.46 continue to grow. Amen. 00:03:56.49\00:03:58.52 If we're going to be the right person 00:03:58.55\00:04:00.30 and in marriage growth is going to be 00:04:00.33\00:04:03.07 the number one thing we need to do, 00:04:03.10\00:04:05.06 we should start that ahead of time. 00:04:05.09\00:04:07.03 So rather than looking for a mate, 00:04:07.06\00:04:09.94 look to be the right person that you need to be. 00:04:09.97\00:04:13.19 Spend time with Jesus Christ. 00:04:13.22\00:04:15.59 Let Him become your all in all 00:04:15.62\00:04:18.28 and find that you are complete 00:04:18.31\00:04:20.94 and whole on your own before you ever look for a mate. 00:04:20.97\00:04:25.06 And realize that you don't need that person 00:04:25.09\00:04:27.28 in order to be happy. Right. 00:04:27.31\00:04:28.89 You know two happy people 00:04:28.92\00:04:30.29 are what it takes to make a happy marriage. Right. 00:04:30.32\00:04:32.60 And someone said it recently that if you're happy 00:04:32.63\00:04:37.53 and you get married nothing your spouse can do-- 00:04:37.56\00:04:41.06 can take that happiness away. Amen. That's right. 00:04:41.09\00:04:43.05 But if you're not happy and you get married 00:04:43.08\00:04:45.30 nothing your spouse can do, can make you happy. 00:04:45.33\00:04:47.60 Make you happy, that's right. 00:04:47.63\00:04:49.00 I know that-- I talked to people daily 00:04:49.03\00:04:51.08 and there's lots of people that I talk to 00:04:51.11\00:04:52.89 are single people and I used to do this. 00:04:52.92\00:04:56.41 I say, why don't we just have a pray-- a prayer, 00:04:56.44\00:04:59.03 we'll pray for a godly man to come into your life. 00:04:59.06\00:05:03.15 And then one day the Lord impressed me, 00:05:03.18\00:05:05.59 J.D. that's not the way to go about this. 00:05:05.62\00:05:08.12 If you're talking to a female you need to say, 00:05:08.15\00:05:10.98 Lord, prepare me to be a godly wife. That's right. 00:05:11.01\00:05:14.03 And same thing with a male. 00:05:14.06\00:05:15.87 Prepare me to be a godly husband, 00:05:15.90\00:05:18.13 because now you're involved. Absolutely. 00:05:18.16\00:05:20.96 You see, and God's honors that 00:05:20.99\00:05:23.25 rather than sitting here and say, 00:05:23.28\00:05:24.65 I'm looking for a free gift. Right. 00:05:24.68\00:05:26.37 Why don't you send me a godly husband, you know. 00:05:26.40\00:05:29.07 Well, and sometimes I think God is waiting to say, 00:05:29.10\00:05:31.21 okay, I've got that person that you need to be, 00:05:31.24\00:05:34.48 but you need to be first. 00:05:34.51\00:05:35.88 You're not ready for this person, that's right. 00:05:35.91\00:05:37.28 You kind of free him up to bring that person into your life. Yes. 00:05:37.31\00:05:39.73 The other thing we find is that when your life starts 00:05:39.76\00:05:41.79 to come together and you are happy 00:05:41.82\00:05:44.22 with who you are in the Lord-- 00:05:44.25\00:05:46.38 you've taken care of your love issue so to speak. 00:05:46.41\00:05:48.69 We can talk about that a little bit later. 00:05:48.72\00:05:50.41 You've taken care of those things. 00:05:50.44\00:05:51.81 Then you begin to attract the right person. 00:05:51.84\00:05:56.03 People who are looking-- 00:05:56.06\00:05:57.55 are looking for someone that they admire, 00:05:57.58\00:06:00.13 that they find to have strength, 00:06:00.16\00:06:01.77 someone that would complement their own life 00:06:01.80\00:06:05.21 and if you're the right person 00:06:05.24\00:06:06.61 you're gonna attract the right person. 00:06:06.64\00:06:08.11 I've written a book recently entitled 00:06:08.14\00:06:09.77 10 Keys to Happy Marriage 00:06:09.80\00:06:11.17 and it's taken from the Book of Ruth. 00:06:11.20\00:06:13.20 And Ruth found a right husband 00:06:13.23\00:06:15.41 because she was the right woman. 00:06:15.44\00:06:18.18 Boaz saw her gleaning in his field 00:06:18.21\00:06:20.75 and recognized the stories about her 00:06:20.78\00:06:22.72 that she was faithful to her mother-in-law, 00:06:22.75\00:06:24.72 was caring for this woman. 00:06:24.75\00:06:26.19 She didn't have to comeback to Israel with her, 00:06:26.22\00:06:27.78 she could have stayed in Moab 00:06:27.81\00:06:29.22 but she loved her mother-in-law, she was taking care of her, 00:06:29.25\00:06:31.71 she let mom stay at home, 00:06:31.74\00:06:33.81 while she went out to glean 00:06:33.84\00:06:35.51 so that it wouldn't embarrass mom. 00:06:35.54\00:06:36.96 She did that work for her and kept mom out of the sun. 00:06:36.99\00:06:40.45 And Boaz saw this and said this is a righteous woman 00:06:40.48\00:06:43.58 I need to know this girl and he was drawn to her already 00:06:43.61\00:06:47.25 because she was the right person. 00:06:47.28\00:06:49.22 And she was drawn to him 00:06:49.25\00:06:50.62 because he was also a person of character. Right. 00:06:50.65\00:06:53.10 You know, when he saw her he immediately wanted 00:06:53.13\00:06:55.40 to care for her and make sure she was protected. 00:06:55.43\00:06:57.90 You know, give her lunch 00:06:57.93\00:06:59.30 and keep her away from the workers 00:06:59.33\00:07:00.80 and, you know, all of these things. 00:07:00.83\00:07:02.53 He was a person of character 00:07:02.56\00:07:03.93 and she recognized that in him as well. 00:07:03.96\00:07:05.65 Now how do you think that the Lord entered into this? 00:07:05.68\00:07:08.59 Well, I think the Lord had that planned all along. 00:07:08.62\00:07:10.74 First of all there was no accident 00:07:10.77\00:07:12.46 that the Ruth gleaned in that field. 00:07:12.49\00:07:14.34 Absolutely. Yes. 00:07:14.37\00:07:15.74 She didn't know her way around certainly. 00:07:15.77\00:07:17.48 But she went and started to glean in this field 00:07:17.51\00:07:19.38 and Naomi didn't send her to it because afterwards she said, 00:07:19.41\00:07:22.64 where did you gleaned today? 00:07:22.67\00:07:24.19 In the field of a man named Boaz. 00:07:24.22\00:07:27.35 The bell started to ring 00:07:27.38\00:07:28.75 and she started to think about this, you know. 00:07:28.78\00:07:31.14 But God's hand was in this all along 00:07:31.17\00:07:33.97 and started guiding them together I think. 00:07:34.00\00:07:36.35 I think you made a good point there 00:07:36.38\00:07:38.19 because, you know, that same God 00:07:38.22\00:07:40.04 is perfectly capable today. Amen. 00:07:40.07\00:07:42.18 Of bringing the right people together. Yes. 00:07:42.21\00:07:44.70 And our pursuit really is not for that person. 00:07:44.73\00:07:47.56 Our pursuit is for God and for growth in our own lives. 00:07:47.59\00:07:51.52 Ruth Graham Bell wrote, 00:07:51.55\00:07:53.13 "If God had answered all my prayers, 00:07:53.16\00:07:54.83 I would have married the wrong man several times." 00:07:54.86\00:07:59.42 So usually it's not a good prayer to say, 00:07:59.45\00:08:02.01 Lord, give me this man, give me this woman, 00:08:02.04\00:08:04.34 but instead, Lord, make me the right person 00:08:04.37\00:08:06.47 and fulfill your will in my life in your time. 00:08:06.50\00:08:09.25 Put me in the right place. That's right. 00:08:09.28\00:08:10.66 Put that person in the right place. That's right. 00:08:10.69\00:08:12.69 And if you have this relationship with the Lord, 00:08:12.72\00:08:14.69 it seems like just miraculously things 00:08:14.72\00:08:16.66 workout like that. It does. It does. 00:08:16.69\00:08:18.59 You know, there are no accidents. No. 00:08:18.62\00:08:20.21 You know, I mean everything is providential so. 00:08:20.24\00:08:23.58 Probably the starting place is, is natural that we have 00:08:23.61\00:08:26.64 in that relationship with the Lord. 00:08:26.67\00:08:28.28 Now I think the other thing the person listening 00:08:28.31\00:08:30.14 to this program saying, well, you know, 00:08:30.17\00:08:31.89 I've waited all these years, I guess, 00:08:31.92\00:08:33.53 there's something wrong with me, 00:08:33.56\00:08:34.93 I'm not the right person. Right. 00:08:34.96\00:08:36.71 It also has to do with God's timing. 00:08:36.74\00:08:39.66 And so you know, don't beat yourself up and say, 00:08:39.69\00:08:42.25 oh, I'm not the right person. 00:08:42.28\00:08:44.20 God's timing will be perfect and we don't know 00:08:44.23\00:08:47.14 what His timing is for you, you know. 00:08:47.17\00:08:49.75 But as you're waiting for God's timing, 00:08:49.78\00:08:51.46 other things that you can do to prepare yourself for this 00:08:51.49\00:08:54.36 is to see whether or not you have any love issues 00:08:54.39\00:08:57.03 that need to be taken care off. Yes. 00:08:57.06\00:08:58.99 Are the things in your own life 00:08:59.02\00:09:00.39 that would hamper a relationship with a mate? 00:09:00.42\00:09:03.31 Now, let's say that you're a young woman 00:09:03.34\00:09:05.12 or even an older woman 00:09:05.15\00:09:06.59 and basically you had a very strange relationship 00:09:06.62\00:09:09.32 with your father or your father was abusive 00:09:09.35\00:09:12.23 or you're distant from him or he was absent. 00:09:12.26\00:09:15.47 Chances are very good that you have a love relationship-- 00:09:15.50\00:09:18.19 a love issue that is based 00:09:18.22\00:09:19.80 on that nonexistent relationship or that bad relationship, 00:09:19.83\00:09:24.01 because a woman learns how to relate to a man 00:09:24.04\00:09:26.95 through her relationship with her father. 00:09:26.98\00:09:29.44 And that's the relationship that tells her 00:09:29.47\00:09:31.23 that she's a valuable person, that she's a princess. 00:09:31.26\00:09:33.64 Someone who's desirous 00:09:33.67\00:09:36.00 and someone who should be pursued. 00:09:36.03\00:09:38.03 It is the relationship with the father 00:09:38.06\00:09:40.20 and if that did not exist, 00:09:40.23\00:09:41.63 then there maybe some work that needs to be done. 00:09:41.66\00:09:44.35 In my pastoring-- the times when I tried to 00:09:44.38\00:09:47.68 with the young woman's help re-father that young woman. 00:09:47.71\00:09:52.78 And basically I can be kind of a substitute father figure 00:09:52.81\00:09:56.63 and my job is to tell her that she is special. Yes. 00:09:56.66\00:09:59.50 That she is God's princess. Yes. 00:09:59.53\00:10:01.47 That she is a beautiful young woman inside and out 00:10:01.50\00:10:04.76 and that's the most important thing is the inside. 00:10:04.79\00:10:07.53 But that--she is someone who's deserving 00:10:07.56\00:10:09.85 of a quality relationship. Amen. 00:10:09.88\00:10:11.89 It is my job to tell her that I always believe in her, 00:10:11.92\00:10:14.59 that I'm always on her side, that I always support her. 00:10:14.62\00:10:17.65 And then I'm always proud of her. 00:10:17.68\00:10:19.65 And there are-- a few young women of my church 00:10:19.68\00:10:22.05 who have my phone number they call every now 00:10:22.08\00:10:24.55 and then when something is going on in their life-- 00:10:24.58\00:10:26.88 in fact a couple of these young women in our church, 00:10:26.91\00:10:29.26 we just adore, they're just precious. 00:10:29.29\00:10:30.97 They call us "Pastor Mom and Pastor Dad." Amen. 00:10:31.00\00:10:33.54 You know, we're Pastor Mom and Pastor Dad 00:10:33.57\00:10:36.32 to these young women. 00:10:36.35\00:10:37.72 And it is a joy at this stage in our life 00:10:37.75\00:10:40.34 to be able to help re-father young women. 00:10:40.37\00:10:43.11 And the same thing can happen with young men as well, 00:10:43.14\00:10:45.91 so that you begin to see your value in the eyes of God, 00:10:45.94\00:10:49.92 as a father should have shown you, 00:10:49.95\00:10:52.51 as a mother should have shown you, 00:10:52.54\00:10:53.91 but maybe did not. 00:10:53.94\00:10:55.31 So take care of those love issues in your life 00:10:55.34\00:10:59.06 and then you're ready for the next step. 00:10:59.09\00:11:00.72 I would think that, that would be probably the epitome 00:11:00.75\00:11:04.02 of our part of our being here on this earth 00:11:04.05\00:11:06.63 is to have people look at you as mom and pop. Yeah. 00:11:06.66\00:11:09.79 Whatever you're not biologically you can't. Yeah. 00:11:09.82\00:11:12.05 Because I see something special in that couple, 00:11:12.08\00:11:15.79 because there are so many hurting people out there, 00:11:15.82\00:11:17.93 you know, that are really just floundering. 00:11:17.96\00:11:20.20 They really are. 00:11:20.23\00:11:21.60 There are so many young people that have no foundation 00:11:21.63\00:11:24.83 upon which to base decisions, 00:11:24.86\00:11:27.37 upon which to pursue anyone in a relationship 00:11:27.40\00:11:32.13 because they haven't seen it, they haven't experienced it, 00:11:32.16\00:11:35.56 they don't-- they maybe don't have 00:11:35.59\00:11:36.96 a relationship with the Lord. 00:11:36.99\00:11:38.36 So, you know, anything goes 00:11:38.39\00:11:40.26 because if you don't have anything 00:11:40.29\00:11:41.70 to base anything on, why not? 00:11:41.73\00:11:43.32 Just do whatever comes along. Do whatever. 00:11:43.35\00:11:45.42 And we see so many young girls-- they have-- 00:11:45.45\00:11:48.76 what we call father hunter 00:11:48.79\00:11:50.54 and they throw themselves into situations 00:11:50.57\00:11:53.39 that are so destructive 00:11:53.42\00:11:55.42 because they simply haven't had that. 00:11:55.45\00:11:57.43 and so to help provide a foundation 00:11:57.46\00:11:59.87 for young people and say, you are valuable 00:11:59.90\00:12:02.65 and here's how you make these decisions. 00:12:02.68\00:12:04.86 You know, here's a foundation upon which to make decisions. 00:12:04.89\00:12:07.46 That's true. That's true. 00:12:07.49\00:12:09.51 Now it's a real privilege for us to be in that situation, 00:12:09.54\00:12:12.88 I mean, that's such a beautiful God thing 00:12:12.91\00:12:16.74 when he leads-- you into someone's life 00:12:16.77\00:12:19.01 and you're able to do that-- 00:12:19.04\00:12:20.52 you know we're empty nesters now, 00:12:20.55\00:12:21.92 so we've raised our daughters 00:12:21.95\00:12:23.60 and although you never stop parenting 00:12:23.63\00:12:25.71 I've discovered that, you know-- 00:12:25.74\00:12:27.11 Oh, no, we still enjoy our daughters. 00:12:27.14\00:12:28.51 We still love them and we still are valuable in their lives 00:12:28.54\00:12:30.94 and we're still parent. 00:12:30.97\00:12:32.35 But it's a different level of parenting now. 00:12:32.38\00:12:34.44 But with some of these other young women 00:12:34.47\00:12:35.97 who have not had the foundation 00:12:36.00\00:12:37.91 for us to service of a parent substitute, 00:12:37.94\00:12:41.15 is just an exciting thing for us. 00:12:41.18\00:12:43.19 You know, it brings value to our lives 00:12:43.22\00:12:44.63 and we see some growth in there as well. 00:12:44.66\00:12:46.36 So we give the glory to Lord for that. 00:12:46.39\00:12:48.73 So I would assume that some place along the line 00:12:48.76\00:12:52.67 these men or these women have to expect certain things. 00:12:52.70\00:12:56.49 Now where do they-- where does this come from? 00:12:56.52\00:12:58.79 Is this something that they have made up 00:12:58.82\00:13:00.50 that they've got their want list or-- 00:13:00.53\00:13:01.90 Well, I think in one way 00:13:01.93\00:13:03.95 we should make a want list. Yeah. 00:13:03.98\00:13:05.99 We should make a list of non-negotiables, 00:13:06.02\00:13:08.97 say, these are things that are absolutes 00:13:09.00\00:13:12.84 and in the person I marry this must be present. Right. 00:13:12.87\00:13:16.56 Some of the non-negotiables. 00:13:16.59\00:13:18.06 Well, the first non-negotiable for me-- 00:13:18.09\00:13:19.90 when I was searching for a mate, 00:13:19.93\00:13:22.55 although I didn't really call at that, 00:13:22.58\00:13:23.95 but that's what I was doing, 00:13:23.98\00:13:25.35 I was dating 00:13:25.38\00:13:26.75 was I wanted a committed Christian woman. Amen. 00:13:26.78\00:13:30.49 And since I'm a Seventh-day Adventist 00:13:30.52\00:13:32.30 I wanted a Seventh-day Adventist Christian woman. 00:13:32.33\00:13:34.87 That would uncomplicate my life first of all, 00:13:34.90\00:13:37.52 you know, because we wouldn't be arguing 00:13:37.55\00:13:39.37 about which day to go to church on. 00:13:39.40\00:13:41.49 And then I wanted someone whose level of commitment 00:13:41.52\00:13:43.93 and growth was similar to mine, 00:13:43.96\00:13:45.63 not identical, but similar to mine. 00:13:45.66\00:13:48.53 To me that was a non-negotiable. 00:13:48.56\00:13:50.74 Because if I've to waste a lot of time 00:13:50.77\00:13:52.90 dealing with those issues of religious differences. 00:13:52.93\00:13:55.64 I'm wasting energy and creative resources that I have 00:13:55.67\00:13:59.61 and I loose the chance for some happiness 00:13:59.64\00:14:02.94 that I could have otherwise. 00:14:02.97\00:14:04.75 So when I found a woman 00:14:04.78\00:14:07.22 who was indeed a committed Seventh-day Adventist Christian 00:14:07.25\00:14:10.77 who was in a similar plain of growth to my own, 00:14:10.80\00:14:14.22 then the light started going off and the bell started ringing. 00:14:14.25\00:14:17.49 You know, I realized this could work, 00:14:17.52\00:14:19.52 this could work, 00:14:19.55\00:14:20.92 plus we found relationship together to be so easy. 00:14:20.95\00:14:23.19 You know, it was easy for us to get along. 00:14:23.22\00:14:26.35 It was kind of a no effort relationship 00:14:26.38\00:14:28.26 which gave us more resources for creativity. 00:14:28.29\00:14:30.65 But one thing I've noticed about-- 00:14:30.68\00:14:32.05 you always show that you like each other. 00:14:32.08\00:14:33.45 Yes. Yeah. 00:14:33.48\00:14:34.85 You know, not only but I'm just, 00:14:34.88\00:14:36.25 you know, just have paid attention, 00:14:36.28\00:14:38.31 you know, and you just like being together. 00:14:38.34\00:14:40.27 We do. We do. 00:14:40.30\00:14:41.67 You know, and you'll just feed off with each other 00:14:41.70\00:14:43.21 and that is absolutely wonderful. 00:14:43.24\00:14:44.68 So I can see why people are attracted to you 00:14:44.71\00:14:47.03 always mom and pop. Yeah. 00:14:47.06\00:14:48.73 Certainly because you have something to give. 00:14:48.76\00:14:51.64 It just didn't happened 00:14:51.67\00:14:53.04 I'm sure that you all have evolved 00:14:53.07\00:14:54.79 into who you are but still-- 00:14:54.82\00:14:57.86 Well, I think friendship really, 00:14:57.89\00:15:00.01 you know, you can't dictate 00:15:00.04\00:15:01.82 someone else's non-negotiables. No. 00:15:01.85\00:15:03.80 But if there was one I was gonna dictate 00:15:03.83\00:15:06.02 that will probably will be on the list 00:15:06.05\00:15:07.42 that you be really good friends first. 00:15:07.45\00:15:09.89 You know, and this has to be a friend. 00:15:09.92\00:15:12.00 Not a strange relationship. 00:15:12.03\00:15:14.91 You can talk easily. 00:15:14.94\00:15:16.31 You can enjoy one another. 00:15:16.34\00:15:17.71 You can laugh. 00:15:17.74\00:15:19.11 You know, they say, if you survey women to ask them 00:15:19.14\00:15:22.18 what was the number one reason 00:15:22.21\00:15:23.74 why they married their particular spouse. 00:15:23.77\00:15:27.07 The first thing on the list they said, 00:15:27.10\00:15:28.97 he made me laugh. Amen. 00:15:29.00\00:15:30.50 It's always-- there's joy in the relationship 00:15:30.53\00:15:32.97 and you know what else do we want? 00:15:33.00\00:15:34.63 We don't get married so we can solve problems together. 00:15:34.66\00:15:37.30 You know, we get married so that we can enjoy one another 00:15:37.33\00:15:40.19 and enjoy the journey of life together. 00:15:40.22\00:15:42.63 And there's a big difference in happiness and joy. 00:15:42.66\00:15:44.72 That's true. Yeah. 00:15:44.75\00:15:46.12 That's true, the other thing is 00:15:46.15\00:15:47.52 I think sometimes we get hung up on this idea of romantic love 00:15:47.55\00:15:50.77 that the media has painted for us 00:15:50.80\00:15:52.75 and we get to thinking that what I want is 00:15:52.78\00:15:55.94 someone who is a soul mate 00:15:55.97\00:15:57.48 who I feel this intense passion for all the time. 00:15:57.51\00:16:01.37 I think that, that's an unrealistic picture 00:16:01.40\00:16:03.45 and it's not even a healthy way to build a relationship. 00:16:03.48\00:16:06.40 I believe that if you're first and foremost good friends 00:16:06.43\00:16:10.36 who find relationship easy 00:16:10.39\00:16:12.15 and you have common shared values 00:16:12.18\00:16:14.87 and goals and purposes in your life, 00:16:14.90\00:16:17.38 that you have something that's even more important 00:16:17.41\00:16:19.34 than romantic love. Well, certainly. 00:16:19.37\00:16:21.10 In fact one author said 00:16:21.13\00:16:22.50 that in order for genuine love to flourish 00:16:22.53\00:16:25.33 and for marriages to last, "romantic love must die 00:16:25.36\00:16:28.92 as the basis of the relationship 00:16:28.95\00:16:31.43 and you must grow to mature love 00:16:31.46\00:16:32.90 which is a love of commitment and friendship. 00:16:32.93\00:16:35.57 And then mature lovers know how to use romantic love. 00:16:35.60\00:16:39.22 They're better at it than romantic lovers are. Yes. 00:16:39.25\00:16:42.27 But it is not the foundation of the relationship. 00:16:42.30\00:16:45.66 And so finding someone who is their friend is key. 00:16:45.69\00:16:49.38 Shared goals, shared vision, shared belief systems, 00:16:49.41\00:16:52.05 shared values, 00:16:52.08\00:16:53.54 we want to go to the same direction here together. 00:16:53.57\00:16:56.42 That friend, someone is easy to get along with 00:16:56.45\00:16:58.63 is another non-negotiable I think. Yeah. 00:16:58.66\00:17:00.94 Often people won't overlook 00:17:00.97\00:17:02.50 the person that's right beside them 00:17:02.53\00:17:04.53 that maybe they, they work on a committee with 00:17:04.56\00:17:06.72 or do something at church with and they're good friends, 00:17:06.75\00:17:09.91 they're good buddies but they think, 00:17:09.94\00:17:11.42 oh, when I'm gonna date I've to go out here somewhere 00:17:11.45\00:17:14.58 and find somebody that has the right looks 00:17:14.61\00:17:17.83 or you know that something the right-- 00:17:17.86\00:17:21.20 Well, you know the standard-- 00:17:21.23\00:17:22.60 basically people, people are asking who is he? 00:17:22.63\00:17:25.55 Yeah, the status. Who is she? 00:17:25.58\00:17:26.95 The status, you know. 00:17:26.98\00:17:28.35 You know, that was the word I was looking for. 00:17:28.38\00:17:29.75 And looking for certain status and they pass out someone 00:17:29.78\00:17:32.08 they could be a wonderful friend. That's right. 00:17:32.11\00:17:34.15 I had an interesting experience over a couple of years ago. 00:17:34.18\00:17:36.98 I went to my 40th year of school reunion. 00:17:37.01\00:17:40.56 And the guys that were the most handsome-- Yes. 00:17:40.59\00:17:43.66 They had lost their hair. 00:17:43.69\00:17:46.37 Their beltline had expanded, you know, put in lot of weight. 00:17:46.40\00:17:49.90 And you know when you haven't seen your friends 00:17:49.93\00:17:51.85 that you grew up with for years and years and years 00:17:51.88\00:17:54.16 these things happen and it was shocking. Yeah. 00:17:54.19\00:17:57.76 And I just-- then you start grading yourself, 00:17:57.79\00:18:00.97 you know, and then because we forget our age. 00:18:01.00\00:18:03.30 Yeah. That's right. 00:18:03.33\00:18:04.70 They got old and how did that happen when I didn't, yeah. 00:18:04.73\00:18:06.51 You know, what I mean. 00:18:06.54\00:18:09.08 You know the hunk very often becomes a chunk. 00:18:09.11\00:18:10.89 That's right. That's good. That's good. That's right. 00:18:10.92\00:18:13.20 The hunk becomes a chunk, 00:18:13.23\00:18:14.60 but it's better to marry someone that is-- 00:18:14.63\00:18:17.44 that you're basing the relationship on looks. Yes. 00:18:17.47\00:18:20.08 You know, looks are important. 00:18:20.11\00:18:21.48 That's important for us to take care of ourselves 00:18:21.51\00:18:23.04 so that we look good for one another 00:18:23.07\00:18:25.04 and just for our own self-esteem that we look good. 00:18:25.07\00:18:28.39 I think that you have to be proud 00:18:28.42\00:18:29.79 who you're standing next to. 00:18:29.82\00:18:31.19 Right, right. Absolutely. 00:18:31.22\00:18:32.59 And I think there's a certain level of appearance 00:18:32.62\00:18:35.05 that would be on the non-negotiables. Yeah. 00:18:35.08\00:18:36.79 You know, I don't want someone 00:18:36.82\00:18:38.19 that just doesn't care of themselves at all-- 00:18:38.22\00:18:41.05 But it shouldn't be number one. No. 00:18:41.08\00:18:43.06 Nor do you have to be the most handsome guy 00:18:43.09\00:18:44.92 or the beautiful women or whatever. 00:18:44.95\00:18:46.68 The current matinee idol is not what I want to marry. 00:18:46.71\00:18:50.08 I want someone who takes care of themselves 00:18:50.11\00:18:51.67 and someone who is presentable. 00:18:51.70\00:18:53.71 But what I really want is someone 00:18:53.74\00:18:55.84 who is a person of character and commitment and quality, 00:18:55.87\00:18:59.85 someone who shows me tender concern, 00:18:59.88\00:19:01.46 those kinds of things. 00:19:01.49\00:19:02.86 I would assume at sometimes 00:19:02.89\00:19:04.26 you could be fooled for a while? Oh, yes. 00:19:04.29\00:19:05.93 Sure for a while. 00:19:05.96\00:19:07.33 That's why it's usually better not to have a quick romance 00:19:07.36\00:19:10.74 but to have some opportunity to observe each other 00:19:10.77\00:19:13.31 in a variety of settings. 00:19:13.34\00:19:15.16 And one of the ways to do that is spend sometime in their home 00:19:15.19\00:19:19.00 and see how they interact with their family. 00:19:19.03\00:19:21.92 The old saying is, if you want to know 00:19:21.95\00:19:23.41 how she's gonna treat you 10 years from now, 00:19:23.44\00:19:25.27 watch how she treats her daddy. Amen. 00:19:25.30\00:19:27.21 And although there are some exceptions 00:19:27.24\00:19:28.61 to that rule especially in unhealthy abusive relationships. 00:19:28.64\00:19:31.60 By and large that's a pretty good rule to follow, 00:19:31.63\00:19:33.57 same thing for the ladies. 00:19:33.60\00:19:35.09 If you want to know how he's gonna treat you in 10 years, 00:19:35.12\00:19:37.36 watch how he takes care of his mother. 00:19:37.39\00:19:39.16 How does he treat her? 00:19:39.19\00:19:40.85 Because those home relationships 00:19:40.88\00:19:42.71 are the foundation for or building a home. 00:19:42.74\00:19:45.25 We only know how to do marriage one way 00:19:45.28\00:19:46.82 and that's what we watched it done. That's right. 00:19:46.85\00:19:48.80 You know, and I think parents can even ask these questions 00:19:48.83\00:19:51.81 of their young people who are dating. 00:19:51.84\00:19:55.54 I remember my mother asking me that question. 00:19:55.57\00:19:57.76 Well, what do you think about him? 00:19:57.79\00:19:59.82 How does he treat his mother? 00:19:59.85\00:20:01.61 His mother, right. And I'm like, well, well. 00:20:01.64\00:20:03.71 It's very perceptive for your mom too, wouldn't it-- 00:20:03.74\00:20:05.26 Yeah, and when I thought about it, 00:20:05.29\00:20:07.26 he's treating his mother wonderfully and his sister, 00:20:07.29\00:20:09.80 you know, always very devoted to them, 00:20:09.83\00:20:11.81 very kind and the way he spoke to them. 00:20:11.84\00:20:14.50 And so, you know, I knew that, 00:20:14.53\00:20:16.02 that was his family relationship. 00:20:16.05\00:20:17.82 So I can look forward to something similar. 00:20:17.85\00:20:20.72 And that's what Shelley told me, 00:20:20.75\00:20:22.63 the first time I took her home to meet mom and daddy 00:20:22.66\00:20:24.87 and that changes the rules when you take him home 00:20:24.90\00:20:27.12 to meet my mom and daddy. That's right. Oh, yes. Yeah. 00:20:27.15\00:20:28.53 And of course we were older 00:20:28.56\00:20:29.93 whenever we had our relationship you know 00:20:29.96\00:20:32.87 And but later she told me that was very important 00:20:32.90\00:20:37.11 because I adore my mother. 00:20:37.14\00:20:39.02 You know, and I did treat her with respect 00:20:39.05\00:20:40.73 and loved her with all my heart. 00:20:40.76\00:20:42.57 And that was when Shelley 00:20:42.60\00:20:43.97 probably the first piece f armor came off of her. 00:20:44.00\00:20:46.70 You know, when ever she says, hey, this-- 00:20:46.73\00:20:48.25 You maybe safe after all. 00:20:48.28\00:20:49.65 This guy is okay, you know, because I can see. Right. 00:20:49.68\00:20:52.68 So, that is very, very important. 00:20:52.71\00:20:54.62 And watched how Gayle treated her daddy. 00:20:54.65\00:20:56.67 And she just adored her daddy, absolutely adored him. 00:20:56.70\00:21:01.09 And the bond between them was just unbelievable. 00:21:01.12\00:21:04.87 And at first when we got married 00:21:04.90\00:21:06.92 I was a little bit intimidated by that relationship 00:21:06.95\00:21:09.72 and then suddenly I realized it's 00:21:09.75\00:21:11.31 because of that relationship that she found it so easy 00:21:11.34\00:21:14.71 to have intimacy with me, 00:21:14.74\00:21:16.56 so that there was a close relationship between us. 00:21:16.59\00:21:18.69 So I wrote her daddy a thank you letter. Amen. 00:21:18.72\00:21:21.28 Thanking him for the ways that he had raised his daughter 00:21:21.31\00:21:24.15 making my life with her so easy and so rich 00:21:24.18\00:21:28.17 and so that I owed him a great deal because of his fathering. 00:21:28.20\00:21:31.56 I think that's a keeper. 00:21:31.59\00:21:32.96 I think that's something that a lot of young men out there 00:21:32.99\00:21:35.20 ought to follow that because that's a keeper right there. 00:21:35.23\00:21:38.49 It meant so much to him. 00:21:38.52\00:21:40.36 He kept that letter, he had it tugged away in his drawer 00:21:40.39\00:21:43.16 and every now and then he'd show me. 00:21:43.19\00:21:44.56 You know, when you wrote to me. 00:21:44.59\00:21:45.96 Yeah. That's precious. 00:21:45.99\00:21:47.36 But I think that we also look for other non-negotiables. 00:21:47.39\00:21:50.17 Some of them should be pretty obvious to us, 00:21:50.20\00:21:52.90 but not always, so let's take the obvious. 00:21:52.93\00:21:55.96 You don't want someone who is abusive, 00:21:55.99\00:21:58.79 verbally, physically, emotionally or spiritually. 00:21:58.82\00:22:02.04 And that sometimes can be observed 00:22:02.07\00:22:03.63 in those relationships that we were just speaking. 00:22:03.66\00:22:05.46 That's right. 00:22:05.49\00:22:06.86 So be around their family, you know. Yeah. 00:22:06.89\00:22:08.31 If they scream and shout 00:22:08.34\00:22:09.71 or verbally abusive to their parents, 00:22:09.74\00:22:11.75 this is a bad sign. 00:22:11.78\00:22:13.32 Or if you watch their parent do that to each other 00:22:13.35\00:22:16.85 this is where--this individual has learned things 00:22:16.88\00:22:19.49 and so at least keep an eye open for this, 00:22:19.52\00:22:21.58 it doesn't mean that person will necessarily 00:22:21.61\00:22:23.70 have to repeat the pattern 00:22:23.73\00:22:25.22 that they learned in their home of origin, 00:22:25.25\00:22:27.13 but there is a better than even chance that they will 00:22:27.16\00:22:29.87 and so it's good to watch that to observe it. 00:22:29.90\00:22:31.95 Is there abuse? 00:22:31.98\00:22:33.35 Is there controlling behavior going on here? 00:22:33.38\00:22:36.58 Is there deceit? Is this person honest? 00:22:36.61\00:22:39.83 Can I trust what they say? 00:22:39.86\00:22:41.27 When they tell me one thing, is it always true 00:22:41.30\00:22:43.60 or do I find out there's something else is true later? 00:22:43.63\00:22:47.83 Are they physically violent? 00:22:47.86\00:22:50.55 Have they ever hit me? 00:22:50.58\00:22:52.17 If they do, don't walk, run from this relationship. 00:22:52.20\00:22:55.12 Get out, get out now. 00:22:55.15\00:22:57.40 We've been married 31 years. 00:22:57.43\00:22:58.80 I want you to know something. 00:22:58.83\00:23:00.20 I had never even thought of hitting this woman. Amen. 00:23:00.23\00:23:02.19 But if I did, I'd be out on the street the next day, 00:23:02.22\00:23:05.86 until I got help. Yes. 00:23:05.89\00:23:07.94 She would say, all right, this marriage isn't over, 00:23:07.97\00:23:09.58 but you're out of this house until you get help. 00:23:09.61\00:23:11.54 Now 31 years of marriage I thought, 00:23:11.57\00:23:12.94 you know, would win some brownie points, 00:23:12.97\00:23:15.57 but one hit would do it and I know that. Yeah. 00:23:15.60\00:23:18.05 And I respect her for that. That's as it should be. 00:23:18.08\00:23:20.89 And that's a non-negotiable. It is a non-negotiable. Yes. 00:23:20.92\00:23:23.58 And it will always be a non-negotiable. 00:23:23.61\00:23:26.82 Another non-negotiable would be alcohol abuse, 00:23:26.85\00:23:29.53 a drug use, those kinds of things. 00:23:29.56\00:23:33.13 Simply because it affects emotional maturity. 00:23:33.16\00:23:35.77 It affects judgment. 00:23:35.80\00:23:37.52 It is contrary to the value system of those 00:23:37.55\00:23:40.05 who follow the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. 00:23:40.08\00:23:42.43 It becomes another lover. 00:23:42.46\00:23:44.42 I really believe that you can adulterate a marriage 00:23:44.45\00:23:46.79 by addictions to substances being-- 00:23:46.82\00:23:50.34 and even that in pornography and other issues. 00:23:50.37\00:23:52.97 Addictions becomes another lover 00:23:53.00\00:23:55.19 and I've seen men and women both 00:23:55.22\00:23:57.69 really leave a beautiful home, 00:23:57.72\00:24:00.00 a wonderful spouse, because of addicted behavior. 00:24:00.03\00:24:04.10 And then addicted behavior 00:24:04.13\00:24:05.59 also leaves a person emotionally immature. 00:24:05.62\00:24:09.56 And you know, it's all right to be emotionally 16 if you are 16, 00:24:09.59\00:24:12.51 but when you're 38 it really stinks. 00:24:12.54\00:24:14.42 Yeah, because I understand you know that 00:24:14.45\00:24:16.75 if you start using drugs 00:24:16.78\00:24:18.63 whatever then you take home that particular-- 00:24:18.66\00:24:21.36 That's where your emotional development stops. 00:24:21.39\00:24:23.35 If you start using at age 16, 00:24:23.38\00:24:25.53 you were 16 until the day you stop using 00:24:25.56\00:24:28.33 and then you don't suddenly jump to 38 or 39. 00:24:28.36\00:24:31.67 It's still a process. You got to grow. 00:24:31.70\00:24:33.74 Now you maybe able with right up to grow 00:24:33.77\00:24:35.70 faster than a year per year, 00:24:35.73\00:24:38.80 but still it is a growth process. 00:24:38.83\00:24:40.93 And the emotions have to be nurtured along. 00:24:40.96\00:24:43.65 But if you were selecting a mate 00:24:43.68\00:24:45.06 that would certainly be one or two would say next. 00:24:45.09\00:24:48.09 Yes, that's right. 00:24:48.12\00:24:49.49 And there are other things, you know, 00:24:49.52\00:24:50.89 you want to look at the person's work ethics. Yes. 00:24:50.92\00:24:52.44 And that's what he thinks, 00:24:52.47\00:24:53.84 you know, you want someone who will be a worker. 00:24:53.87\00:24:57.48 You know, especially for a husband you want to know that 00:24:57.51\00:25:00.44 he's going to hold the job. 00:25:00.47\00:25:02.40 For a wife you know you want to know 00:25:02.43\00:25:04.18 that she's gonna be willing to contribute as well and to be-- 00:25:04.21\00:25:08.28 to have the best of for her family in mind. Right. 00:25:08.31\00:25:12.18 And just, you know, all of those things line up, 00:25:12.21\00:25:15.18 but you have to make your list 00:25:15.21\00:25:17.20 of non-negotiables. That's right. 00:25:17.23\00:25:18.60 What is it for you that is absolutely has to be there 00:25:18.63\00:25:22.36 or absolutely cannot be there. 00:25:22.39\00:25:24.72 And I would imagine if somebody who is 60 years or 70 years old, 00:25:24.75\00:25:27.98 they probably need to have their list too. 00:25:28.01\00:25:29.77 Absolutely. The list has got to be there. You see. 00:25:29.80\00:25:31.59 Some people will say, well, that's judgmental. 00:25:31.62\00:25:33.94 No, it's not judgmental, 00:25:33.97\00:25:35.45 it's setting a course for your life. Yes. 00:25:35.48\00:25:37.77 It's knowing what you want, knowing who you are, 00:25:37.80\00:25:40.69 knowing where you're going and deciding 00:25:40.72\00:25:43.03 if I'm going to get there 00:25:43.06\00:25:44.43 and I'm going to have someone along with me 00:25:44.46\00:25:46.56 there need to be someone who can contribute to this process. 00:25:46.59\00:25:49.74 So you have to know what you want 00:25:49.77\00:25:51.68 and when you date someone who you suddenly possess 00:25:51.71\00:25:55.02 a non-negotiable-- 00:25:55.05\00:25:56.42 something you cannot have in this relationship, 00:25:56.45\00:25:58.68 end the relationship and move on. Yes. 00:25:58.71\00:26:01.69 We're running out of time, 00:26:01.72\00:26:03.09 we've got approximately two minutes left. 00:26:03.12\00:26:05.05 Why don't we just sum up what we've talked about here 00:26:05.08\00:26:07.34 because this is a wonderful topic, mate selection. Right. 00:26:07.37\00:26:11.79 And it starts with you and God following His timing, 00:26:11.82\00:26:15.00 His will and also then developing yourself, 00:26:15.03\00:26:18.69 making sure that you've taken care 00:26:18.72\00:26:20.40 of your relationship with God and your love issues 00:26:20.43\00:26:23.65 and then knowing who you are and where you're going. Yes. 00:26:23.68\00:26:26.16 What are your non-negotiables? 00:26:26.19\00:26:27.98 What are the things I absolutely have to have in a mate? 00:26:28.01\00:26:30.88 And then not settling for less. 00:26:30.91\00:26:32.45 It would be better to be single than to compromise your values 00:26:32.48\00:26:36.30 and marry someone who does not fit 00:26:36.33\00:26:38.22 what you need in your life for a mate. Yes. 00:26:38.25\00:26:41.28 And I think the last thing is just to trust that 00:26:41.31\00:26:43.55 God is capable. Yes. 00:26:43.58\00:26:45.20 That as you continue to grow in Him, 00:26:45.23\00:26:47.43 He can put you in the right place 00:26:47.46\00:26:49.35 and your potential mate in the right place 00:26:49.38\00:26:51.40 at the right time. Trust Him. 00:26:51.43\00:26:53.12 So you really don't want to lag behind, 00:26:53.15\00:26:55.10 you don't want to be ahead. That's right. Absolutely. 00:26:55.13\00:26:57.23 You know, you want to be in His timing 00:26:57.26\00:26:58.63 and so I know in my particular situation 00:26:58.66\00:27:00.76 I invite the Holy Spirit in daily. Yes. 00:27:00.79\00:27:02.80 You know, sometime hourly. 00:27:02.83\00:27:04.92 You know-- so that I know that my God 00:27:04.95\00:27:07.14 who could see the beginning from the end is there, 00:27:07.17\00:27:09.05 you know, to be that flashlight out 00:27:09.08\00:27:12.67 in front of me you might say, you know, so-- 00:27:12.70\00:27:15.08 The one thing you want us to be in His timing 00:27:15.11\00:27:16.86 and in His will. Amen, amen. 00:27:16.89\00:27:20.37 Ladies and gentlemen, this has been an absolutely 00:27:20.40\00:27:22.41 wonderful, wonderful topic today. 00:27:22.44\00:27:25.80 We're talking with two people here 00:27:25.83\00:27:27.65 that certainly have walk the talk, 00:27:27.68\00:27:32.12 walk the walk and talk the talk 00:27:32.15\00:27:33.78 I guess that's the way it's put in everything. 00:27:33.81\00:27:35.60 Anyway we're glad you are here. 00:27:35.63\00:27:37.64 We are going to go to another topic after this 00:27:37.67\00:27:42.17 and it's dealing with communication. 00:27:42.20\00:27:43.96 So I'm sure that every one would like to know 00:27:43.99\00:27:45.82 more about how to communicate with each other. 00:27:45.85\00:27:48.73 We just want to thank you or being with us 00:27:48.76\00:27:50.61 today on "Issues and Answers." 00:27:50.64\00:27:52.33 We just ask that God bless you, 00:27:52.36\00:27:53.94 take care of you and guide you according to your faith. 00:27:53.97\00:27:57.70