Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn and welcome again to 00:00:29.94\00:00:32.18 Issues and Answers. Today we're going to be talking 00:00:32.22\00:00:35.47 about Christmas and Santa Claus from a biblical perspective. 00:00:35.51\00:00:39.17 Some of you may want to send your small children out of the 00:00:39.21\00:00:42.80 room. Now we want to give a very balanced approach to this and I 00:00:42.84\00:00:47.27 will say that many Christian scholars believe that Jesus was 00:00:47.30\00:00:51.70 born in October, some say in April, but we do know that 00:00:51.73\00:00:56.01 December 25 wasn't actually his birth date. Today we will be 00:00:56.05\00:01:01.04 looking at some things that have to do with the story of Santa 00:01:01.08\00:01:06.00 Claus. Now welcome back James Rafferty. I'm so excited that 00:01:06.04\00:01:10.45 you've returned with us. You are the speaker and co-director 00:01:10.49\00:01:14.16 for Light Bearers Ministry. Tell us about this ministry. 00:01:14.20\00:01:17.80 Good to be here Shelley always. We have a ministry that focuses 00:01:17.84\00:01:21.94 on publishing, printing literature for the world field. 00:01:21.97\00:01:24.48 We've been working through this ministry for about 22 years. 00:01:24.52\00:01:28.40 We've traveled the world to various continents and countries 00:01:28.43\00:01:31.88 teaching the word of God and providing literature in the 00:01:31.92\00:01:35.39 language of the people. A lot of it is focused on prophecy, 00:01:35.42\00:01:38.61 Daniel and Revelation, the gospel, focusing on Christ in 00:01:38.65\00:01:42.06 those prophecies. We've been privileged to print about 500 00:01:42.09\00:01:45.43 million pieces of literature in the last 15-20 years in over 30 00:01:45.47\00:01:48.96 different languages. I get to travel all over the world and 00:01:49.00\00:01:52.42 share the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ with lay people, 00:01:52.46\00:01:56.01 with pastors, with people who are not believers, some who are 00:01:56.04\00:01:59.07 believers and it's just been a privilege to do this for the 00:01:59.11\00:02:02.11 last 22 years. Well you know, James, you and 00:02:02.14\00:02:05.73 Ty Gibson, who is your partner and co-director of Light Bearers 00:02:05.77\00:02:10.60 Ministry, have a very popular program on 3ABN called Lift Him 00:02:10.64\00:02:15.37 Up. You know most people talk about you as the experts in 00:02:15.40\00:02:19.36 Daniel and Revelation because you all focus a lot on that and 00:02:19.39\00:02:22.73 we've certainly seen in the few programs that we've just done 00:02:22.76\00:02:26.52 here on Issues and Answers some of the amazing insights the Lord 00:02:26.56\00:02:30.29 has given you and your mastery of Revelation and Daniel. 00:02:30.32\00:02:33.39 But I always enjoy listening to the two of you. As a matter of 00:02:33.43\00:02:37.58 fact, I take a lot of notes when you all talk and I really want 00:02:37.62\00:02:41.04 to thank you for the programs that we've recently done where 00:02:41.07\00:02:44.46 we've been covering the apocalypse and how that word 00:02:44.49\00:02:47.98 that some seem to think is doom and gloom the Bible talks about 00:02:48.02\00:02:52.29 about it as being the unveiling and the revelation of. 00:02:52.32\00:02:56.08 We've been looking at apocalyptic literature in Daniel 00:02:56.11\00:02:59.80 and in Revelation and it brought up this issue because we're 00:02:59.84\00:03:03.99 talking about how Satan tries to counterfeit so many things. 00:03:04.03\00:03:08.30 So during one of our breaks you had mentioned a couple of 00:03:08.34\00:03:12.47 programs ago about a teaching a question that came up when 00:03:12.50\00:03:16.70 you were doing a campmeeting in Botswana. Someone came and 00:03:16.74\00:03:20.87 asked you about Christmas. Now they had a very negative spin on 00:03:20.91\00:03:26.03 Christmas. You were trying to give them a balanced stand. 00:03:26.06\00:03:28.65 Absolutely. We were there, we were doing a youth congress in 00:03:28.69\00:03:31.71 Botswana, about 800 kids there, and the question that was 00:03:31.75\00:03:34.70 brought up was well what about Christmas. Now the reason it was 00:03:34.74\00:03:37.32 brought up was because I was there through Christmas. It was 00:03:37.36\00:03:41.71 the dates of December 21st to December 31st. So we went right 00:03:41.75\00:03:45.73 over the Christmas holidays at this meeting, at this congress, 00:03:45.77\00:03:49.04 and the reason we did that was because a lot of the kids don't 00:03:49.08\00:03:51.77 have school during that time and they wanted to do this. It was 00:03:51.80\00:03:54.81 really neat, I thought. But some of the young people there in 00:03:54.84\00:03:58.20 Botswana... Christmas is not a big deal over there. You know, 00:03:58.24\00:04:01.57 they don't have trees and decorations and a lot of it is 00:04:01.60\00:04:03.74 negative. It's more just drinking and celebrating. 00:04:03.77\00:04:05.90 It's not really Christ focused at all. Here in this country, in 00:04:05.94\00:04:10.38 America, we use Christmas to remember Christ's birth. I think 00:04:10.42\00:04:13.96 that's a very positive thing. We need to do that. I think that 00:04:13.99\00:04:17.65 it's important to recognize and take the opportunity to reach 00:04:17.69\00:04:21.03 out to people and touch people's lives during this time of the 00:04:21.07\00:04:25.02 year whether it is or is not historically connected with the 00:04:25.05\00:04:28.61 date of his birth. However, I also believe there is a lot of 00:04:28.64\00:04:31.99 secularism, a lot of counterfeit that comes in with Christmas. 00:04:32.02\00:04:35.86 Part of that, I believe, has to do with undermining the faith of 00:04:35.90\00:04:39.71 people in Jesus Christ by counterfeiting Christ in such a 00:04:39.74\00:04:44.38 way that from early childhood young people would lose their 00:04:44.41\00:04:49.02 faith in their parents and therefore in their heavenly 00:04:49.05\00:04:51.59 Father through being told a lie that causes them to mistrust 00:04:51.63\00:04:58.23 adults, mistrust anything they would tell them. 00:04:58.26\00:05:00.89 Whoa ho! Have I got a story to tell you! I remember when J.D. 00:05:00.93\00:05:04.36 and I got married. I told him if we have children or when we have 00:05:04.39\00:05:08.84 children, I don't want to teach them about Santa Claus. He was 00:05:08.88\00:05:13.20 appalled at the idea at first and I explained why. I remember 00:05:13.23\00:05:17.88 when my sister was 6 or 7 years old and she had put a little 00:05:17.91\00:05:22.18 step ladder on to of a chair and she got up to the top of the 00:05:22.22\00:05:26.05 closet and found the Christmas presents that she had asked 00:05:26.08\00:05:30.53 Santa Claus for. She came to my mother and she said just in a 00:05:30.57\00:05:34.99 hysterical fit, she said you lied to me, you lied to me. 00:05:35.02\00:05:39.47 You're Santa Claus. There is no Santa Claus. And when my mother 00:05:39.51\00:05:44.18 explained it to her she was so devastated. Now you might say 00:05:44.22\00:05:48.19 well everyone gets upset when they learn about Santa Claus. 00:05:48.22\00:05:52.16 But I watched my sister as a teen when she went into 00:05:52.19\00:05:56.75 a rebellious age and she looked my mother in the face and she 00:05:56.79\00:06:01.82 said why should I believe you about Jesus, about God, when 00:06:01.85\00:06:06.85 you lied to me about Santa Claus. 00:06:06.88\00:06:08.75 This is the very reason, Shelley why we're doing this program. 00:06:08.79\00:06:11.16 I believe that Satan is trying to undermine the faith of 00:06:11.19\00:06:15.73 people in childhood concerning Christ by teaching something 00:06:15.77\00:06:22.49 that will cause them to doubt and be less likely to receive 00:06:22.52\00:06:27.80 the truth about Jesus later on in life. He's doing that through 00:06:27.84\00:06:32.67 this idea or this teaching about Santa Claus and I think we 00:06:32.70\00:06:37.50 really need to take a close look at that today. 00:06:37.53\00:06:39.27 Oh, I'd love to. Matthew 18 says unless you become like a little 00:06:39.31\00:06:43.87 child who is so trusting and receiving you cannot enter the 00:06:43.90\00:06:47.80 kingdom of God. So how has Satan tried to destroy or counterfeit? 00:06:47.84\00:06:54.68 Let's look at first how did he try to destroy Jesus? 00:06:54.71\00:06:58.39 Well we know he began, and everyone knows this that knows 00:06:58.43\00:07:01.21 anything about the Bible; he began by trying to destroy 00:07:01.25\00:07:03.96 Christ through Herod. Herod was the king in Jerusalem at that 00:07:04.00\00:07:07.61 time. Basically he was the king of the Jews but he was set up 00:07:07.65\00:07:11.23 by pagan Rome. He was a puppet leader there. He was very 00:07:11.26\00:07:15.22 jealous for his status there. He wasn't sure. He didn't want any 00:07:15.26\00:07:18.18 rival kings. He heard about this king being born, this king of 00:07:18.22\00:07:21.09 the Jews, the true heir to the throne and he was afraid it was 00:07:21.12\00:07:23.96 going to be some kind of temporal kingdom that was going 00:07:23.99\00:07:27.37 to replace him. So when the three magi who came through and 00:07:27.41\00:07:31.27 told him about this Messiah being born didn't return he sent 00:07:31.30\00:07:34.75 his army out to Bethlehem where he had heard that the child was 00:07:34.78\00:07:38.00 going to be born to destroy all of the children there that were 00:07:38.04\00:07:41.23 two years old and younger. 00:07:41.26\00:07:42.68 You know, this is something that's very interesting is that 00:07:42.72\00:07:47.97 when the Magi came he had his people, his scribes if you will, 00:07:48.01\00:07:53.23 study this out and they knew that it was the time, the 00:07:53.26\00:07:56.83 fulfillment of this 70 week prophecy. It was getting close 00:07:56.86\00:08:00.25 so they knew yes the Messiah is supposed to come right now. 00:08:00.28\00:08:03.80 So he figured this is the new and rightful king so he tried to 00:08:03.84\00:08:07.33 destroy him. Absolutely! And he did more than 00:08:07.36\00:08:08.91 that. Before Christ was even born he tried to destroy the 00:08:08.95\00:08:11.88 Jewish nation. He did? Satan? Yes. The prophecy as we read 00:08:11.92\00:08:16.91 it there in Daniel 9 predicted that Christ would come forth in 00:08:16.94\00:08:20.52 the allotted time given to the Jews. So if he could destroy 00:08:20.56\00:08:23.99 that nation, if he could take that nation off the face of the 00:08:24.03\00:08:26.98 earth, then where would the Messiah be born? He also tried 00:08:27.02\00:08:31.25 to destroy Christ in the relationship between Joseph and 00:08:31.29\00:08:35.45 Mary. When Mary became pregnant of the Holy Spirit, Joseph was 00:08:35.49\00:08:39.05 in doubt of her purity and was going to put her away until an 00:08:39.08\00:08:42.61 angel came to him and told him no Joseph don't do that. 00:08:42.64\00:08:44.88 Again, just before Christ was born there was no place for him 00:08:44.92\00:08:48.90 to be born. They had to go to a stable. Satan did everything he 00:08:48.94\00:08:52.47 could to make it hard, difficult or impossible for the Messiah 00:08:52.51\00:08:56.36 to be brought forth to destroy our Savior Jesus Christ. And he 00:08:56.40\00:09:00.61 has carried on or is carrying on that work in seeking to destroy 00:09:00.65\00:09:04.56 the faith of God's people in him, the faith of anyone in him, 00:09:04.59\00:09:08.79 by attacking children first and foremost. Why? Because Matthew 00:09:08.82\00:09:12.49 18 tells us that the kingdom of heaven is like a little child 00:09:12.53\00:09:16.82 children who are so susceptible so willing to believe what they 00:09:16.86\00:09:21.33 are told and so open-minded about what they are told. If he 00:09:21.37\00:09:25.91 can set up a counterfeit system and bring into their belief 00:09:25.94\00:09:30.45 system something that later one decimates that belief system 00:09:30.48\00:09:34.97 causes them to have doubts and unbelief about it, then he can 00:09:35.01\00:09:39.75 conquer and cause that same unbelief to be pointed toward or 00:09:39.78\00:09:44.49 directed toward the Bible and the gospel of salvation. 00:09:44.52\00:09:47.19 You know, I was just thinking. In Revelation 22, going back to 00:09:47.23\00:09:52.42 me saying that I wouldn't want my children to grow up believing 00:09:52.46\00:09:57.62 in Santa Claus, it seems so innocuous and so much fun. 00:09:57.65\00:10:00.93 I just confess to you that had before a whole little collection 00:10:00.97\00:10:07.32 of the Santa Claus, St. Nick, statues and different things 00:10:07.35\00:10:11.46 that people had given to me over the years because I love to 00:10:11.49\00:10:15.57 decorate at Christmas. But there is this scripture in 00:10:15.60\00:10:18.92 Revelation 22 that talks about the ones who are going to be 00:10:18.96\00:10:23.30 outside the gate and it talks about anyone who loves and deals 00:10:23.34\00:10:27.65 in falsehood, who is perpetuating a lie. So this is 00:10:27.68\00:10:31.17 something that we want to talk about very delicately and 00:10:31.21\00:10:35.84 sensitively today but we do want to show that if we are 00:10:35.88\00:10:40.37 perpetuating a lie, a counterfeit of Satan, we could 00:10:40.40\00:10:44.86 be doing damage to our children. 00:10:44.89\00:10:46.31 And as you expressed with the experience of your sister, we 00:10:46.35\00:10:49.42 are doing damage to our children and that damage is reaching over 00:10:49.46\00:10:54.05 to belief in Jesus Christ. Now I still remember the day that I 00:10:54.08\00:10:58.64 found out there was no Santa Claus and I was devastated. 00:10:58.67\00:11:01.87 Where was the focus of my devastation? Where was my anger, 00:11:01.90\00:11:05.52 what was my anger directed toward? My mother, my mother. 00:11:05.56\00:11:08.66 I had seen her as someone that I could trust, someone that I 00:11:08.69\00:11:11.72 could believe in. Now she raised me to believe in God. She raised 00:11:11.76\00:11:14.87 me to go to church and now my faith in her, my trust in her 00:11:14.90\00:11:18.47 was undermined just a little bit. I believe that all over 00:11:18.51\00:11:21.89 this planet in the lives and hearts of millions of children 00:11:21.93\00:11:25.87 who are very open to believe and accept the gospel of Jesus 00:11:25.91\00:11:30.19 Christ, you have Satan seeking to undermine the principles of 00:11:30.23\00:11:34.48 the kingdom of God, the receptiveness, the openness that 00:11:34.51\00:11:38.36 we are to have toward the kingdom of God by replacing 00:11:38.39\00:11:42.17 the principles of God's kingdom with this counterfeit system 00:11:42.21\00:11:45.60 that eventually, one way or another, these children are 00:11:45.63\00:11:48.73 going to find is not true; it's a lie, it's a falsehood. 00:11:48.77\00:11:51.80 And it's amazing how much Santa Claus and this fable really do 00:11:51.84\00:11:57.06 parallel with the characteristics of Christ. 00:11:57.09\00:12:00.09 One thing that troubled me so much is that we're taught that 00:12:00.13\00:12:04.38 Santa Claus knows who's naughty or nice, he's keeping this 00:12:04.42\00:12:08.64 record, right? You know, what's really 00:12:08.67\00:12:11.31 interesting when you look at a lot of these principles of Santa 00:12:11.35\00:12:14.78 Claus you find them in the book of Revelation. Oh yes. 00:12:14.81\00:12:18.01 Revelation is full of them. Revelation 2:2 for example: 00:12:18.04\00:12:22.33 Jesus here is talking to the church in Ephesus and he says 00:12:22.36\00:12:26.26 in verse 2: I know they works and they labor and thy patience 00:12:26.30\00:12:29.53 and how you cannot bear those which are evil and you've tried 00:12:29.57\00:12:32.46 them which say they are apostles and are not and have found them 00:12:32.50\00:12:35.36 liars. Jesus knows everything about us. He knows who's been 00:12:35.39\00:12:39.86 naughty or nice. See? So the counterfeit comes in. What's the 00:12:39.90\00:12:45.02 counterfeit? Santa. By the way. Take the word Santa, S-A-N-T-A; 00:12:45.05\00:12:50.14 take the N out and put it at the end S-A-T-A-N. 00:12:50.17\00:12:54.77 That's interesting. It is. And what you find here with Santa 00:12:54.81\00:12:58.84 is you find one counterfeit after another. This first one 00:12:58.88\00:13:01.99 that you mentioned, knowing who's naughty and nice. So you 00:13:02.03\00:13:05.26 have this make believe person who knows who's naughty and nice 00:13:05.29\00:13:08.76 and we teach our kids to believe in this person, to believe he's 00:13:08.80\00:13:12.59 the one that's going to do what? Bring them rewards, bring them 00:13:12.62\00:13:16.38 presents. Well let's look at that one. Doesn't the book of 00:13:16.41\00:13:20.01 Revelation tell us that there's someone who's going to bring 00:13:20.05\00:13:22.14 rewards and gifts. He's going to bring his reward with him. Okay 00:13:22.17\00:13:26.61 Revelation 22. Again, I believe that a lot of these counterfeits 00:13:26.64\00:13:31.05 are found in the book of Revelation. Revelation 22:12: 00:13:31.08\00:13:35.74 And behold I come quickly and my reward is with me to give 00:13:35.78\00:13:40.49 every man according as his work shall be. So here are two 00:13:40.52\00:13:44.84 principles that are being counterfeited by this fabricated 00:13:44.87\00:13:49.39 person, Satan? Santa and he knows who's naughty and nice, 00:13:49.43\00:13:53.02 and he's going to bring rewards with him. Why is he going to 00:13:53.05\00:13:56.03 bring rewards with him? Because we've written our list, we've 00:13:56.06\00:14:00.50 checked it twice. We've brought our requests to Santa. Now is 00:14:00.54\00:14:03.84 that another counterfeit of Jesus Christ. Yes, absolutely. 00:14:03.87\00:14:07.10 Okay. In Matthew 7:7 we are told there: Ask and it shall be given 00:14:07.14\00:14:11.31 you, seek and ye shall find, knock and you will have the door 00:14:11.35\00:14:16.36 opened unto you. So we have the gifts that we're supposed to ask 00:14:16.40\00:14:21.38 Jesus for in Matthew 7:7. We have the fact that he knows 00:14:21.41\00:14:25.80 who's naughty and nice, Revelation 2:2, we have the 00:14:25.83\00:14:29.50 fact that he's going to bring rewards with him Revelation 00:14:29.54\00:14:32.08 22 verse 12. What else do we have counterfeited? 00:14:32.11\00:14:34.98 Well he comes late, I mean his coming is late, it's at midnight 00:14:35.02\00:14:39.32 It's like the midnight cry. 00:14:39.35\00:14:40.67 Yes. We find that in the Bible in relation to Christ. 00:14:40.71\00:14:43.88 He's going to come at midnight. He's going to come as a thief 00:14:43.92\00:14:45.95 in the night. He's going to come when we don't know, he's going 00:14:45.98\00:14:48.63 to come when we're asleep and we're not supposed to be asleep 00:14:48.66\00:14:51.81 and the same with Santa. You know, you leave him the cookies 00:14:51.84\00:14:54.66 and milk and he comes down the chimney late at night when 00:14:54.69\00:14:58.26 everyone's sleeping. See. Same counterfeit there. Another 00:14:58.30\00:15:02.02 counterfeit; what does Santa wear? Red and White. He wears 00:15:02.06\00:15:05.34 red and white. What about Christ? Revelation chapter 19 00:15:05.37\00:15:08.58 describes Christ as he returns to the earth the second time. 00:15:08.62\00:15:12.68 In Revelation chapter 19 and look at verses 13 and 14. 00:15:12.71\00:15:16.94 It says here: And he was clothed in a vesture dipped in blood and 00:15:16.98\00:15:21.25 his name is called the Word of God. And the armies which were 00:15:21.29\00:15:25.33 in heaven followed upon white horses clothed in fine linen 00:15:25.36\00:15:29.14 white and clean. Christ comes with these armies of heaven 00:15:29.18\00:15:32.89 clothed in white, his vesture is dipped in blood which represents 00:15:32.93\00:15:36.86 of course his sacrifice for us. Satan also counterfeiting Christ 00:15:36.89\00:15:40.77 Santa, counterfeit, has the red and the white. What about the 00:15:40.80\00:15:44.65 appearance? Well Santa Claus has got white 00:15:44.68\00:15:48.16 hair and white beard, down to his shoulders kind of curly, 00:15:48.20\00:15:51.75 the white beard. Look in Revelation chapter 1. 00:15:51.78\00:15:55.64 Revelation chapter 1 is one of the only places you find a post 00:15:55.68\00:16:00.72 resurrection description of Christ. It is symbolic to some 00:16:00.76\00:16:05.71 degree, but it's also, I think, more of a picture of him as a 00:16:05.75\00:16:10.10 glorified being whereas on this earth he was looking more like 00:16:10.13\00:16:15.28 a man. Now Revelation 1:14, by the way context, Son of Man: 00:16:15.32\00:16:20.78 verse 13: His head and his hair were white like wool, as white 00:16:20.82\00:16:25.85 as snow. So there you have that counterfeit of Christ again by 00:16:25.88\00:16:30.25 Satan. He knows who's naughty and nice, he comes as a thief, 00:16:30.29\00:16:33.78 he's bringing his rewards with him, he wears red and white, 00:16:33.81\00:16:38.24 he's got long white hair. We bring our children to him. 00:16:38.27\00:16:41.92 Oooh! Like in Mark 10 where Jesus said suffer the little 00:16:41.95\00:16:45.57 children to come to me. So people were bringing the 00:16:45.60\00:16:49.47 children to Jesus and his disciples tried to interrupt 00:16:49.50\00:16:53.30 that and he said no bring them to me. So in our society we take 00:16:53.34\00:16:57.09 our children to Santa Claus to stand in line and to sit one his 00:16:57.13\00:17:00.85 lap and to tell him what I want. 00:17:00.88\00:17:03.37 What's so powerful about this, Shelley, what's so important 00:17:03.41\00:17:05.61 is that many times we see Santa Claus as more receptive to us or 00:17:05.65\00:17:10.87 to our children then Jesus is. We are putting someone in his 00:17:10.90\00:17:15.85 place because maybe Jesus isn't as approachable. The disciples 00:17:15.88\00:17:20.67 of Christ are alive and well today in spirit. The ones that 00:17:20.70\00:17:24.20 are telling people that Christ doesn't have time for you, that 00:17:24.24\00:17:27.71 he doesn't want to listen to you, that he's got more 00:17:27.74\00:17:29.20 important things to do, that maybe you can go to Santa and 00:17:29.24\00:17:32.77 he'll help you but not Jesus. We need to recognize that 00:17:32.80\00:17:36.26 Jesus wants us to come to him. He was very displeased with the 00:17:36.30\00:17:40.51 disciples when they tried to usher the children and the 00:17:40.54\00:17:43.41 mothers away from him. We don't need someone else between us and 00:17:43.45\00:17:47.33 God. We have one mediator and that mediator is Jesus Christ. 00:17:47.36\00:17:50.98 Amen. Those little children that they're bringing have to ask 00:17:51.02\00:17:55.24 Santa for gifts. James 1:17 says that God is the giver of every 00:17:55.27\00:17:59.46 good and perfect gift. So this is something that Jesus is 00:17:59.49\00:18:04.29 saying come to me, ask, seek, knock and it will be given to 00:18:04.32\00:18:09.09 you. So there's another parallel. 00:18:09.12\00:18:12.16 Another parallel. And here are a couple more. We know that 00:18:12.20\00:18:15.79 Santa is all about good cheer. Christmas time is all about good 00:18:15.83\00:18:20.00 cheer. Well Jesus is the one who has promised us good cheer. 00:18:20.04\00:18:23.40 He is the source of good cheer. He is the source of everything 00:18:23.43\00:18:26.89 that is good. Also we know Santa has his helpers and we've been 00:18:26.92\00:18:31.15 told in Hebrews that Jesus is the one from whom we get help. 00:18:31.19\00:18:35.01 He is the one that can give us the help that we really need. 00:18:35.05\00:18:38.87 Finally we know that Santa flies through the air. Acts chapter 1 00:18:38.91\00:18:42.53 Jesus, of course, was lifted up from his disciples when he left 00:18:42.57\00:18:46.69 in the air and he will return in the air. You know when you look 00:18:46.73\00:18:50.82 at the whole picture, it's amazing. You've got at least 10 00:18:50.85\00:18:54.09 or so points of counterfeit here. North Pole for example; 00:18:54.12\00:18:57.29 Santa lives in the North Pole. The Bible teaches us that Jesus 00:18:57.33\00:19:00.67 is the real king of the north and it's Satan, Isaiah 14:12, 00:19:00.71\00:19:04.43 has wanted to sit in Christ's place in the sides of the north. 00:19:04.46\00:19:08.15 So Satan sets up this counterfeit, he gets us all 00:19:08.18\00:19:11.30 focused on that. Those of us who believe in that and then realize 00:19:11.34\00:19:16.28 it's not true have our faith undermined to believe in our 00:19:16.31\00:19:19.02 parents and whatever else they tell us, possibly about Christ. 00:19:19.06\00:19:22.44 Those of us who do believe and continue to believe continue to 00:19:22.48\00:19:25.83 believe lies and fables rather that going directly to Christ. 00:19:25.87\00:19:28.68 You know I told you the story about my sister and you said 00:19:28.72\00:19:31.85 that you could remember exactly when you learned about Santa. 00:19:31.89\00:19:36.01 I can't because I remember for a couple of years as a child till 00:19:36.05\00:19:40.14 she learned, I was four years older, until she learned the 00:19:40.17\00:19:44.03 truth I would pretend that I believed in Santa Claus because 00:19:44.06\00:19:47.99 I was afraid I wouldn't get any gifts. But it was just as much 00:19:48.02\00:19:51.87 fun knowing. I mean we're not trying to take the fun out of 00:19:51.90\00:19:55.87 pretending things or fables, but we do want to show that there 00:19:55.90\00:19:59.84 can be a danger in this particular fable. It was just as 00:19:59.87\00:20:03.68 much fun for me. It's confusing to children anyway when you see 00:20:03.72\00:20:07.80 a Santa on every block and you're taught that there's only 00:20:07.83\00:20:11.61 one Santa Claus and then we see all these counterfeit Santas 00:20:11.64\00:20:15.39 around. So, you have two beautiful children. How have 00:20:15.42\00:20:19.53 you reared your children? 00:20:19.56\00:20:21.02 Basically we have taught them about Christmas from the context 00:20:21.06\00:20:24.15 of the gospel of Jesus Christ. We've taught them that 00:20:24.18\00:20:26.98 Christmas is a time for gift giving, giving as the wise men 00:20:27.02\00:20:30.41 gave to Jesus. They brought their gifts to him. He was needy 00:20:30.45\00:20:33.77 We can bring our gifts to Jesus. We can bring our gifts to people 00:20:33.81\00:20:36.69 who are in need. Matthew 25 says if you've done it unto the least 00:20:36.72\00:20:39.65 of these you've done it unto me. We can give them to each other 00:20:39.69\00:20:42.86 as a reminder of our love for them. So it's definitely a time 00:20:42.90\00:20:45.53 of gift giving, it's definitely a time to remember Christ in the 00:20:45.57\00:20:48.37 person of those who are poor and suffering and our loved ones. 00:20:48.40\00:20:51.17 We have taught them that Santa is nothing that we want to 00:20:51.20\00:20:54.54 believe in, nothing that we want to get focused on. Why? Because 00:20:54.58\00:20:58.50 Santa represents everything that Jesus has to offer us. Why put 00:20:58.53\00:21:02.42 something counterfeit in there when Jesus is the one that 00:21:02.45\00:21:04.82 offers us all of those things that we need, all of the 00:21:04.85\00:21:07.39 principles. See really the reason why the world gets so 00:21:07.42\00:21:09.89 involved in Santa Claus and even children do is because he is 00:21:09.93\00:21:14.22 offering the very thing that we need. We need those qualities. 00:21:14.26\00:21:18.52 We need someone who brings rewards, who offers us good 00:21:18.55\00:21:21.74 cheer, who answers our requests, who is aware of our needs, and 00:21:21.78\00:21:27.64 comes to us and delivers his promises. We need someone like 00:21:27.68\00:21:32.74 Santa Claus and that person is Jesus. So what we've taught our 00:21:32.77\00:21:37.02 children is to look to Christ, to focus the whole event on 00:21:37.06\00:21:40.95 Jesus and don't even think... You know Santa Claus obviously 00:21:40.98\00:21:44.43 to many kids can't be real. There's Santa, there's Santa 00:21:44.46\00:21:47.44 how can he be in all those places but to some kids it's 00:21:47.47\00:21:50.38 devastating. I'm not even going to believe in Jesus because he's 00:21:50.42\00:21:53.82 so close to Santa and you lied to me about Santa and obviously 00:21:53.86\00:21:57.23 you're probably lying to me about Jesus too. 00:21:57.26\00:21:59.03 So they think he's just a myth. Yes. 00:21:59.06\00:22:01.26 You know there are also so many children who are so disappointed 00:22:01.30\00:22:06.70 at Christmas who do believe in Santa Claus because they get 00:22:06.73\00:22:10.19 nothing and they wonder, I tried to be as good as I could all 00:22:10.23\00:22:13.66 yearlong and Santa Claus just couldn't find my house. 00:22:13.69\00:22:18.33 It's almost like they're performing for Santa's 00:22:18.37\00:22:22.89 acceptance and then they cannot get that because the family is 00:22:22.92\00:22:26.90 too poor I've heard people who've said my mother used to 00:22:26.94\00:22:31.10 tell me well Santa couldn't find us this year or we moved or 00:22:31.13\00:22:35.49 something happened and they were devastated. It's almost like you 00:22:35.52\00:22:39.81 can build in that performance mentality because Jesus doesn't 00:22:39.85\00:22:45.01 just say he knows our works. He says I also know, in 00:22:45.04\00:22:49.83 Jeremiah 13:23, he says I know you can't change yourself any 00:22:49.87\00:22:53.07 more than and Ethiopian can change his skin or a leopard can 00:22:53.10\00:22:56.31 change his spots, but if you'll come to me I'll do the work in 00:22:56.34\00:23:00.49 you. I will recreate you, God says, in the image of my Son. 00:23:00.53\00:23:04.65 This is your destiny, to be conformed to his image. 00:23:04.68\00:23:07.88 I'll do this work in you, you don't have to try to perform for 00:23:07.92\00:23:11.41 me under your own power. All I ask is that you surrender 00:23:11.44\00:23:14.31 control of your life to me. I'll work in you to will and to act 00:23:14.35\00:23:17.89 according to my good pleasure. 00:23:17.92\00:23:19.66 Amen, Shelley. You know, you think about that in this context 00:23:19.70\00:23:24.23 when you see Jesus Christ as the one and the ultimate being 00:23:24.26\00:23:28.29 counterfeited here by Satan, you recognize that if Satan can 00:23:28.33\00:23:32.74 get us to lose confidence in someone who's so like Jesus in 00:23:32.77\00:23:36.44 so many ways, he can get us to lose confidence in Jesus. 00:23:36.48\00:23:40.36 If Santa can't find our home, can Jesus find it? If Santa 00:23:40.39\00:23:44.23 can't answer our requests, can Jesus answer them? If Santa 00:23:44.26\00:23:47.14 isn't there for us, is Jesus going to be there for us? 00:23:47.17\00:23:49.98 If Santa is a myth and a fable, is Jesus a myth and a fable? 00:23:50.02\00:23:54.05 Now how many times have we heard the idea from atheists, from 00:23:54.09\00:23:57.57 people who are unbelievers that the Bible is just full of myth 00:23:57.61\00:24:00.93 and fable. Where do they even get that idea? Well it begins in 00:24:00.96\00:24:04.25 early childhood. It begins at the very inception of 00:24:04.28\00:24:07.38 understanding and trust that every child has, has to have in 00:24:07.42\00:24:09.82 order to survive. A trust that is given to the earthly parents 00:24:09.85\00:24:14.14 to those who are supposed to be older and wiser that if Satan 00:24:14.17\00:24:18.43 can get in there and break and sever and destroy and undermine 00:24:18.46\00:24:22.46 then he has prepared the way for them to distrust Christ 00:24:22.49\00:24:25.33 to distrust everything Christ has to offer and everything he 00:24:25.36\00:24:28.17 represents to us. 00:24:28.20\00:24:29.24 When you think about this elaborate lie that parents, and 00:24:29.28\00:24:32.95 they have good intentions because they have maybe fond 00:24:32.99\00:24:36.59 memories of Christmas, but when you think about perpetuating 00:24:36.63\00:24:41.16 this lie and teaching your child for 6, 8, sometimes 10 years of 00:24:41.20\00:24:45.70 their childhood and you continually... You know I mean 00:24:45.73\00:24:49.53 I can remember when we took our little niece because she did 00:24:49.57\00:24:53.36 believe in Santa Claus. We were given the assignment one night 00:24:53.40\00:24:56.89 on Christmas eve to take her around and to watch the skies 00:24:56.92\00:25:02.99 for his chariot, his sleigh. So we were going around looking 00:25:03.03\00:25:09.03 at the sky. Well then her father came and he put all the presents 00:25:09.07\00:25:13.06 out so that she thinks Santa Claus came while we were gone. 00:25:13.09\00:25:18.58 It seems innocuous, it seems like it's fun but what we can do 00:25:18.61\00:25:23.97 is set up our children to not trust in their parents because 00:25:24.01\00:25:28.12 the parents have perpetuated this lie for so long. Let me ask 00:25:28.15\00:25:32.23 you a question. A child psychologist may be watching 00:25:32.26\00:25:35.09 us to day and they're saying poor James' children, those poor 00:25:35.13\00:25:39.34 little babies, they don't get to use their imagination and have 00:25:39.37\00:25:43.30 any fun. Have your children been damaged by you telling them 00:25:43.33\00:25:47.23 the truth. You know, my kids look forward 00:25:47.26\00:25:50.55 to Christmas a little bit more than I would like. They do enjoy 00:25:50.59\00:25:55.16 it and in our home it's a special occasion but it's one 00:25:55.19\00:26:00.26 that we really also try to turn out toward giving, toward 00:26:00.30\00:26:05.34 helping, toward focusing outwardly toward others 00:26:05.37\00:26:08.22 but have my kids been damaged by it? No. Just like all other 00:26:08.26\00:26:11.73 kids, Christmas is a very special time of the year for 00:26:11.77\00:26:14.61 them. They look forward to it, they love it, not just because 00:26:14.65\00:26:17.40 necessarily they're going to receive something in the form 00:26:17.44\00:26:20.46 of a present but because it's a family time. I told you I was 00:26:20.50\00:26:23.33 in Botswana this Christmas and it's the first time I've been 00:26:23.37\00:26:26.90 away from my family and kids in 17 years of marriage and I would 00:26:26.94\00:26:30.84 say 14 years of having kids. My son's 14. So it was the first 00:26:30.88\00:26:34.61 time and it was difficult for them and for me. I realized how 00:26:34.64\00:26:38.28 much of a family time Christmas has come to be to us. Now the 00:26:38.32\00:26:41.54 grandparents were there and they had a great time with family 00:26:41.57\00:26:45.13 and did all the things that we normally do, but I think that 00:26:45.16\00:26:49.04 Christmas... we don't need some of the other stuff. In fact, I 00:26:49.07\00:26:52.92 think Santa really does add to the secular emphasis on 00:26:52.95\00:26:56.65 Christmas that really is not necessary for us to really 00:26:56.68\00:27:00.63 enjoy it and focus on in the way that God would have us do. 00:27:00.66\00:27:04.24 James, thank you so much for sharing this with us today. 00:27:04.27\00:27:07.82 We have really enjoyed having you here. 00:27:07.85\00:27:09.78 It's been good being here. 00:27:09.82\00:27:11.45 You know, for those of you at home, if you have been teaching 00:27:11.49\00:27:14.51 your children about Santa Claus we've given you a lot to chew on 00:27:14.55\00:27:18.35 today. But let me just say this. Consider making some beautiful 00:27:18.39\00:27:22.16 Christmas traditions of your own. Your children will look 00:27:22.19\00:27:25.16 forward to Christmas and they will trust you if they know that 00:27:25.19\00:27:28.70 you're always telling them the truth. For me Christmas is one 00:27:28.74\00:27:31.92 of my most special times of the year. We love it at our home. 00:27:31.95\00:27:35.55 And we always make a bit to do of it. So this is something for 00:27:35.58\00:27:39.01 you to consider and pray about. I hope that you've been blessed 00:27:39.05\00:27:43.39 by today's program. Right now my prayer for you is that the 00:27:43.43\00:27:47.31 love of our Lord Jesus Christ, the grace of the Father and 00:27:47.34\00:27:50.96 the fellowship of the Holy Spirit will be with you today 00:27:50.99\00:27:54.57 and throughout the rest of the year. 00:27:54.60\00:27:59.69