Hello I'm
Shelley Quinn and welcome
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again to Issues And Answers,
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I'll bet that you are like me.
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You'll find yourself
as a time starved person.
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Well, today is a
program that you will not want
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to miss, we're gonna
be talking about pressures
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and possibilities
and how to go from
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the pressure cooker
of expectations to the
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possibilities God
holds out to us in life.
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And before I
introduce our special guest,
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I want to share a
scripture with you it comes from
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Psalms 90 and verse 12
and the Psalmist wrote,
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teach us to number
our days that we may get
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us a heart of
wisdom, amen to that.
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So what I want to do
now is introduce to you
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the Vice President of
Transforming Lives For Christ
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and she comes
to us from Spokane,
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Washington Linda
Schultz. Hi Shelley.
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Linda, thank you so
much for joining us.
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Now this is not
your first time on 3ABN.
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No, this is the second.
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Okay, you were here for
the women of spiritual praise.
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Yes. And did you do a
Today Program. That's correct.
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I thought you have.
Yes. Oh! We're just so glad
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that you are back
with us and I know that you
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and Cynthia Prime
worked hand in hand together
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and have a beautiful ministry.
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We're really
appreciative for that.
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You are here today
we're gonna start off
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with a few in this series
and you're gonna be talking
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to us and sharing with us
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a little of your
personal testimony.
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But let me kind of
get you started here,
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first of all I would
like to know did you grow up
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in the church and if so
when did your relationship
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or your relationship with
the Lord go from being just
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religion into a real
intimate personal relationship.
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That's an interesting
question because it was
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quite a transition and probably
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occurred over a period of time.
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To begin with my
mother was a Christian
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and my father was not
and I praised the Lord,
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both of them are
today. Amen. But so, I grew up
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in a divided home
as far as Christianity
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for a period of
time, however I went
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to our schools
for the most part and.
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And when you say our
school. Our Christians schools
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excuse me and then but I
also participated and was
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went to public school
for some of my education.
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Then I went on to
our Christian high school
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which was wonderful and.
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Now was this the
Adventist Church that you were,
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schools that you
were going to? Yes. Okay.
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Yes, and I really enjoy
that period of time because
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it allowed me a lot
of time of fellowship
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with other Christians. So
that was very, very special
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and then as I
went on to college,
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I did part of my
college at our Christian college
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and then in part
at a community college
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and finished my degree.
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And then went on
and married my husband,
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who is a pastor and
so I went into pastoring.
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And I love people
so that was a wonderful
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transformation and
I've always loved the Lord.
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But I really believe
that my personal relationship
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with Christ took
place when he took me
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through this
journey of understanding
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what he holds
out to me in my life.
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And what he wants for
me and not necessarily
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all the things
I put in it. Amen,
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now let me back
up just a moment,
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I believe you are a
nurse, right? That's correct.
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So you're you got
your degree in nursing
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and now you're working,
you're married to a pastor,
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you became a mother of
two beautiful children. Yes.
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And you have all of
these elements in your life,
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all of these factors that
are pulling on you for time.
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As well as being a
pastor's wife I am sure
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that we can all
imagine I think being a pastor,
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it is a very difficult
job being a pastor's wife
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can be even more
difficult in that
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you're being
pulled in many directions,
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you hear many things
that you cannot repeat
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and there's only
one person that you can
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take these things to
and share it. That's right.
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It's either your
husband or the Lord,
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so what did you find here
you've got this background
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but you don't
really have that intimate
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personal
relationship with the Lord yet.
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Set this up for us, what
was going on in your life
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with all of these many demands?
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What's real interesting,
I seem to know I had
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a sense of what I
should be doing and I thought
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that was God's
will, what the problem
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was as I wasn't
taking that to him.
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I didn't have that
personal relationship
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I would get my
time with him became hit
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and miss so to speak, some days
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I can have it
many days I wouldn't.
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But I was very
faithful about my time
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with the children and
their relationship with Jesus.
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I was very faithful
about the committees
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and doing what I
needed to do within the church
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and of course
what's interesting is
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I was busy about much good. Yes.
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So it wasn't that I
was doing bad things
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and that's what
to me I understood
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I was doing and
working for the Lord.
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Because look at all
these good things. Amen.
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So I became you know I
was on the school board,
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I was the pastor's
wife, I had the two children
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that were young,
I had also decided
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to go back to
school to get, complete
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a degree in
healthcare administration.
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And all and then I
was working part time
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and all of these multitude
of things came into play.
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Well as long as everything
was functioning alright
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I didn't realize my great need.
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But when trials came
then it started to fall
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apart because I
didn't have the strength.
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I didn't have the
power, see it wasn't about me,
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it was about
God and consequently
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what happened was
these people who I loved,
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I now started to
resent, because I felt
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it was
expectations from them that made
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it impossible for me to meet.
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I couldn't meet
their expectations. Okay.
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So things started falling apart
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and they started to
unravel and the people
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that I loved I
started to resent.
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I couldn't see past my
hurt to my heart anymore. Yes.
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I became angry and
then depression set in.
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And that's a real
normal course of thing
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and it happened not
suddenly but over a course
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of several years
actually for that to occur.
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And I became
very, very dissatisfied
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and very, very
unhappy and the depression
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became deeper and I
was able to cope at work
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but when I come home I
wasn't able to make decisions.
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I came to the place
that I could put a smile
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on my face and I
could go to church
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and when I came
home I was exhausted,
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it was all I could do.
Are you saying you were just
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so fragmented that
it got to that point
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where you know
sometimes we can handle
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a multitude of
things it seems that
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we can kind of keep all
of these balls in the air
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for a certain amount
of time and then one day
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you wake up and feel
that your life you recognize.
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You're so
fragmented that and you have
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so many responsibilities.
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It was the sense that I
don't know what to do first
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and that's why you
couldn't make a decision,
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there's all of these demands.
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You know you have put
your time into the hands
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of others, they're
controlling your time.
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That's correct. So
that's how you were feeling.
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That's exactly right
and then when I started
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to not be able to
meet all the expectations
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and I realized
I was coming back.
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Because my source of strength
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wasn't with my
Savior, it was within.
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Then the
resentment started building
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because I thought how dare they,
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do they have any
idea how much I am doing?
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Do can't they see that
my plate is more than full,
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can't they tell
that I am you know some
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of the complaints that
would come back you know
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that I am doing actually
what they're saying I am not.
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And I was looking see
that's a thing my eyes
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were no longer on Christ,
my eyes were on the people
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and that's the
problem. I needed to be looking
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upward, that's where my focus
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needed to be
and it wasn't there.
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So I started to
go down and under.
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You know Linda I
believe that there is probably
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a lot of people who are
watching right now that can
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identify with what you
had going on in your life.
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Let me ask you do you
feel that did you have
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a difficult time
saying no? What set this up?
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You had obviously you
were brought up in a Christian
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religion and you had
this knowledge of God
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at sometime you had
that time you were spending
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with the Lord, kept
accepting more and more
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responsibilities but
you're just unable to say no
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and that started
grabbing your time from the Lord
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or how did this
get setup that way.
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Isn't that
interesting, obviously I became
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a people pleaser
instead of a God pleaser. Okay.
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I ended up and then
when I found that I couldn't
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do that when people would
ask me to do certain things
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I was very accepting
of them because I thought
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oh yes that would
be fun I would enjoy
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doing that again I
would be involved with people.
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I forgot to take it to my Savior
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to see what he wanted. Yes.
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Lord, is this what
you want me to include
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in my life instead I
was putting it into my life.
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And the more I put in
the heavier the burden
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became and then it
just mounted and that bag
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that I was carrying
on my back, that burden
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became so heavy I
could no longer carry it.
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And that's when I
started to become very angry,
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very discouraged and
that's when I realized
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I can't meet their
expectations but instead
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of it had nothing to do
with those people whatsoever.
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It had everything
to do with the fact
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that I didn't have
my priority straight.
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And Christ was getting
squeezed out of the picture.
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You know once the Lord
gave me this I believe,
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he said that if you
want to keep a finger
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on your spiritual
pulse, then what you need to do
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is check how much
time you're spending
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in the Bible and in
prayer. That's correct.
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If you're not in the
word and you're not in prayer,
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you're gonna start
being spiritually weak.
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And what's you were
doing is what I mean
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we can all identify
with this in particularly
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anyone who is in ministry.
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You were doing the good
and sacrificing the best.
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That's right.
Okay, so. That's right.
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What happened I mean
when this started you found
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yourself starting
to become resentful,
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angry and then
getting into depression.
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What, did your husband
recognize this right away?
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Actually he could tell
something was happening
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but he didn't know
what it was, until one day
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when I walked into his
office and I said, I said
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I love the Lord but I said
I can't handle this anymore,
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so you need to make a choice.
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It's either me or the
church you can't have them both.
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Oh! I couldn't
handle it any further.
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It was too much and
bless his heart he said to me,
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he said Linda he says if
I get you a good Christian
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counselor he said
would you be willing to go?
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And I said that would be
fine, I don't really care.
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I was to the point where
nothing mattered anymore.
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And you know, there is.
How old were your children.
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My children were
in elementary school
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at that time and I kept
this very, very private.
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There were two or three
close friends that I had
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because I need a prayer partner
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and I needed
support through this.
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And to this day I
listen them up I am so grateful
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to the Lord for
them but the other person
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that will have a star I
believe in his crown for me,
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from me is the
counselor that I was sent to.
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There is such a
benefit to a good Christian
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counselor when we needed. Yes.
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And he helped remove
the busyness in my life.
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Helped me focus on
my Lord again. Amen.
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And then helped me
regain who I as a person was
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and I am today, so
he changed all of that
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but it was very
difficult road I had to give
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up everything and I had
to start from scratch because
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see all of those
things I had they were there
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for all the wrong
reasons and that's not
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what God has us to
do. He wants it to be
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for the right reason
and when He puts it in place
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and He gives the
submission then when He commands
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He enables. Exactly. So
provides us our strengths,
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he gives us what
we need for the day;
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he gives us wisdom,
discernment certainly
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not but I had at that point.
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But he puts all of those
things in place if I stay
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connected and it
takes me back to Hebrews
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where he says
you know that Jesus
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is the author and the
finisher of our faith. Amen.
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We need to be
looking unto Jesus. Amen.
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And we need to be doing
that every single day. Amen.
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And we have to
remember 2nd Corinthians 12:9
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that His grace is sufficient,
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His power is made
perfect in our weakness.
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So, if we're trying to
live our lives in our own
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limited human power
we're in pitiful condition.
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Exactly. If we're
not drawing on the power
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of his spirit and
walking in his power
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then where we are in
a difficult situation,
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that's right. So
what was it for you I mean
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when you first
you've recognize the problem
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some what I mean you
didn't identify the problem
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correctly you were just saying
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it's the church
I will need that.
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You cannot be a
pastor anymore but you know
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you've got a problem,
you go to this Christian
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counselor what how many
sessions did you take with him
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before you realized,
hey I've let everyone else
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control my life except the Lord,
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what was the
turning point for you?
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Was there a catalyst?
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I think one of the most
wonderful things was for me,
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he was able to allow
me to spell out you know
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I think in terms of
medicine, you know medical.
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When you have an
infection and sometimes
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that infection is
underneath the surface,
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sometimes it has to be
excised and it has to be
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released before
it can be cleansed,
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all of that garbage
had to be gotten out.
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So it provided an
opportunity to get it out
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in a safe environment
where it was going no where
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else except to the
Lord and then he removed it.
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It kind of got put on
that scape goat and taken out.
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Yes. I didn't have to
deal with that anymore
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and then the healing
process could be started
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and it was after I was
able to get it out probably
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after several
sessions and to remove
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what was in my heart
the anger, the resentment,
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then I could see clear
enough and the Lord provided me
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I believe that
insight to start seeing
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what took me there
and why it was there.
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And then it didn't
have to do with the people,
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it had to do with the
fact that I had relinquished
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control over my
life to somebody else.
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And that is a
dangerous territory. Yes it is.
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Dangerous territory
ther is only one person
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you can do that to
and that is Jesus. Amen.
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That is it. So
did this counselor,
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now when we talk
about Christian counseling
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typically these are
counselors who will use
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the Bible as their
guide and they're going
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to be giving you
scriptural counsel
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and pointing you
back to the Lord.
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What tools did he use to
help you come along in this?
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I think part of it
was that he removed again
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he removed from me
the busyness of life,
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had me start
reconnecting with Jesus.
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But explain what
you say; when you say
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he removed from you
the busyness of life
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explain what
you're saying to me?
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I actually had to
resign from offices. Okay.
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I stopped my
entertaining because we used
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to have lots of people
in and in fact it was not
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uncommon that we
had people actually
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staying at our house. All right.
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That needed to be there
we had to start all that,
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my home became what
I would say a sanctuary
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it was a place where it
was a haven I could come,
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I can spend time with the Lord,
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I had my family there
but as far as the busyness
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of entertaining
and having people over,
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we removed that for just
a time until we can heal,
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okay, and the
offices had to stop,
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I had to back up,
I had to reconnect.
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And then when we
started to put things back
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in the place we
did it very carefully,
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prayerfully and making sure
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it's what God wanted in place.
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And not just what
man wanted in place.
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Okay so the counselor
now has he's prescribed
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first you have to
remove the busyness,
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resign from many
of these positions;
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you're over burdened,
over scheduled and make
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your home a place that
is sanctuary of safe haven
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rather than this
all this busyness
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that entertaining for the time.
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What was the next thing
that he prescribed for you?
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Well we went through
that took a quite a process
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because we not
only had to do with that
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but we had to deal
with other things in my life
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such as the guilt of
saying no that was extremely
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difficult and he
prepared me for that he said
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you have to learn
to say no and he said
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when you're saying
no he said you're gonna
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feel guilty and
then this is what
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I want you to know
is it down the road.
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Pretty soon you're
gonna be feeling guilty
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that you no longer feel guilty.
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It was quite a cycle
but what was interesting
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was I did cycle through
all of that because you see
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guilt means that
you're doing something wrong.
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The guilt we carry
over saying no is actually
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a false guilt but
unless it's Jesus asking us
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to do something
and we choose not.
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Well I think somebody out here,
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you will need to
repeat that again because
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I think
particularly with women I know
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I have a difficult time
saying no especially you know
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people will say you're
the only one that can do this.
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That's right you know
its your talent your guilt
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or something
you're the only one,
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we know you can do
this and then to say no
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you feel like you are
really not only not meeting
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their expectations but
that you are letting them
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down in such a major
way that there is a boy
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that will not be
filled, may be that's his false
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sense of pride there, but
you're saying that the guilt,
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repeat what you just
said, that's a false guilt.
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That's a false guilt.
Guilt means you've done
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something wrong, if
you are turning down
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something the Lord
is asking you to do.
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That is guilt but if you
are turning down something
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that man has only asked
you to do that is a false
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guilt and we need
to separate that out
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and we need to be very
aware and assured of what,
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why we're doing
what we're doing,
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and whether it's what
God's calling us to do?
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Or just what man
is calling us to.
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So when someone
asks you something today
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and sometimes God does
speak through other people
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or he may direct
someone toward us.
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Absolutely. How do
you handle that to know
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whether you're
gonna say yes or no?
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One of the things
I've learned in fact
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it's something that I
have definitely been using
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a lot lately is that
when I have been asked
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I say let me pray about it
and I'll get back with you.
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Okay. It gives me
time, a lot of times
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we also are very
spontaneous and impulsive
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and we will make
decisions out of that.
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That's scary, when we
have time to put it before
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the Lord, spend
time to think it through,
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spend time to
look at the schedule
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we have before us
and listen to his voice
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because you know John 10:27 says
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my sheep listen to my voice,
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I know them and
they follow me. Amen.
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So when we take the
time to connect with him,
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we will hear his
voice and we will know
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if it's of God and if
it's where we need to be
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and if it's not we
don't want to be there
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because then we're
doing it in our strength
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and not His. So when
I want to that was such
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a great statement
there and I want to back up
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just a moment though
because we've read yourself
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at the busyness,
you're learning to say no
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so that you don't
refill that schedule
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but really what
happened to you is you had given
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and given and given
till the world went dry.
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That's correct. I
mean you were empty,
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what did you do, what
did your Christian counselor
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have you do, what steps
did you take to reconnect
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with Christ and
to be filled again?
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Rest. Rest. Rest. Rest
both physically and spiritually
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and there is
nothing more beautiful
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then when you spend
time resting in Jesus.
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And how do you
do that for somebody
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that might be watching that says
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I don't know what
is she talking about?
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You know it's real interesting
it came in many forms,
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I remember many long
walks and just communicating
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with the Lord as I
would walk because sometimes
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we find ourselves
thinking that we have to spend
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an hour in the
word or we have to spend
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this much time praying or
whatever it is but you know
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when we are told to
pray without ceasing,
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I think that means that
we are in a relationship
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of communication
with Jesus. Amen.
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Whatever that is and so
we're able to spend time
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in the word, we are
able to spend time in good
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Christian literature,
we are able to spend time
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going on a walk
and getting refreshed,
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we are able to get
rest for our bodies
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so that we can think
properly because a lot of times
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with all of this
comes very little rest time.
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And you know I don't
know the statistics on it
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but I heard recently
that when we get a depleted
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amount of rest
and we're not getting
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the number of
hours we sleep need.
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It's the
equivalent of having so many
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alcoholic drinks. Yes
and that's scary. Yes.
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Because then we can't
make good intelligent decision,
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we also I believe are
not gonna be into what
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Christ is trying to
tell us and teach us. Amen.
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So we have to get a
physical rest and if our
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schedule is so full
that we're living on
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4 to 5 hours a day I
have to sometimes question
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is that what God's
calling us to. Amen.
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And we need to be
on our knees before Him
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I am not saying that
there are times that we're
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pushed beyond
because he has a mission,
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he has something
he needs to accomplish
00:22:58.97\00:23:00.69
but I think He
provides us energy for that.
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I don't think He expects
us to live on it. Amen, amen.
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So that's the physical rest,
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what's the spiritual rest
that you're talking about?
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The spiritual rest was
that communion with Him,
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interestingly enough
I found that it came in
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bits and pieces
because I was so.
00:23:18.77\00:23:20.24
Dry. Dry I was so dry
but it's kind of like taking
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a emaciated person
and giving him a huge meal
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and expecting them
to eat it all. Yeah.
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You can't do it. So
it was piece by piece,
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small amounts of time
by small amounts of time
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and I found it
divided through the day,
00:23:36.24\00:23:38.58
those talks that I
would have through the day
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as I was cleaning the
house as I was talking to Jesus.
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As I was out on my walk
so I was talking to Jesus,
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as I was sitting
down with my children
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and the word wasn't
just, I wasn't sitting down
00:23:48.80\00:23:51.77
with them to just
feed them anymore.
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I was sitting
down and feeding me
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out of those stories.
It took on a new dimension
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for me. So is this
that point in your life
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it sounds like to me
anyway that you've learned
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how to surrender to
God, to surrender control
00:24:05.48\00:24:08.22
of your life to the
Lord and then he begin
00:24:08.43\00:24:12.47
to lift you up.
That's right, that's right.
00:24:12.66\00:24:15.13
And when He does
then you come forth
00:24:15.33\00:24:18.60
with renewed strength. Yes.
00:24:18.79\00:24:20.35
And renewed energy
and actually He is the one
00:24:20.56\00:24:23.82
that provides the
ability to say no and to start
00:24:24.01\00:24:27.83
feeling comfortable
with knowing you have
00:24:28.03\00:24:30.22
limitations,
you have boundaries.
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You have balances that needs
00:24:32.17\00:24:33.54
to be present in your life.
00:24:33.74\00:24:34.94
And what do you mean by balance?
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Balance is a
really difficult word.
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Yes, well I
hope you'll come back
00:24:40.18\00:24:42.93
and talk to us about
that. I was going to say,
00:24:43.15\00:24:44.34
I do we have a
session we'll do on
00:24:44.57\00:24:47.14
balance and
boundaries. Wonderful.
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But it is a matter of
trying to find those parameters
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that we work within
that are Christ given.
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Linda, I'm just so glad
that you're here to share
00:24:56.65\00:24:59.72
this today but let me
ask you one more question.
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As the Lord is
leading you and I believe
00:25:01.88\00:25:05.93
he led through your
husband and put the.
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Praise the Lord that you
had a Christian counselor
00:25:08.49\00:25:10.17
to go through,
praise the Lord that you had
00:25:10.37\00:25:12.46
a husband who is wise
up to send you there. Yes.
00:25:12.67\00:25:15.60
Because now your
husband is still in ministry,
00:25:15.80\00:25:17.98
you're still a
pastor's wife so worked all of a
00:25:18.18\00:25:21.36
sudden and you are now
ministering from a full up.
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You've learned how
to draw on the Lord.
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Were there are any
other resources that you used
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other than the
Bible, was there anything
00:25:31.81\00:25:33.64
that particularly
spoke to you to help you
00:25:33.86\00:25:36.67
really recognize your problem?
00:25:36.87\00:25:40.29
As far as where I had gotten
00:25:40.51\00:25:45.65
at that point of
time I think it was.
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Books that were
helpful or anything like that?
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No, because I had
pretty much, I didn't had time.
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Okay. I was just so
empty but I do wanna share
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a text if I can,
because it was one that I had
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never seen
before, Galatians 1:10,
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"for do I now
persuade men or God
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or do I seek to please
men, for if I yet please men
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I should not be the
servant of Christ." Amen.
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Boy was that an
eye opener. Amen.
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And it was a
refresher to me to let me know
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Linda don't go there
its all about me just stay
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with me because
if you are wearing
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a yolk that is too heavy.
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I've got to ask you
who asked you to carry it?
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Because Christ
says mine is light.
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And we're all yoked
in service it's just
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if we're not yoked
to Jesus, whatever else
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we're yoked to is a yolk
of bondage isn't it? Right.
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And so that is
where the Lord has let you
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out of that
bondage, who's cut you free
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from the cord of the
wicked that was binding you
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and now you
have a very full life
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but one that's
controlled by his direction.
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Praise the Lord. Amen.
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Linda, thank you
so much for being here
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and I am glad that
you're gonna be coming back
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because you know God
has what he has taught you
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and the comfort
he has bought you,
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now he is sending
you out to comfort others
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with the same comfort
that he has given you. Amen.
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Oh! It's wonderful,
you know I hope for you
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at home that
you've learned something
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from this and I hope
that you're going to pray
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Psalm 90 verse 12
that if you wanna learn
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how to go from the
pressure cooker of expectation
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of the world into the
possibilities of how God
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can lead you and
what he can do for you.
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Pray and teach us
to number our days
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that we may get
us a heart of wisdom.
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Now may the grace of
our Lord Jesus Christ,
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the love of the Father
and the fellowship of the
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Holy Spirit be with
you today and everyday.
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Please join us again next time.
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