Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Paul & Carolyn Ryne
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000224
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00:29 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn and welcome to Issues and Answers.
00:33 You know, in our fast paced world and the hustle 00:36 and bustle of everyday activity, sometimes it's easy to allow 00:41 all of the circumstances of our life to crowd out God. 00:45 We're going to be talking today about how to keep your 00:48 personal walk with the Lord, that personal, intimate 00:51 relationship alive in a fast paced world. 00:55 Let me share a Scripture with you from Psalm 63. 00:59 The Bible says, this is David writing by the way, he says: 01:02 "O God, you are my God, earnestly will I seek You," 01:07 "my inner soul thirsts for You, my flesh longs for You" 01:13 "in a dry and weary land where there is no water." 01:17 "So I have looked upon You in the sanctuary to see Your" 01:20 "power and glory. Because Your loving-kindness" 01:23 "is better than life, my lips shall praise You." 01:27 "So will I bless You while I live; I will lift up" 01:30 "my hands in Your name." Is that your desire 01:34 in a dry and thirsty land where there is so little 01:38 of the living water of the Holy Spirit, do you long 01:41 to know God better? Well let me introduce you 01:45 to our guests today because they're going to tell us 01:47 how we can press into God's presence and keep this personal 01:51 walk intimate with God. 01:54 We're really happy to welcome both Paul and Carolyn Rayne 01:59 and you all are with Restoration International, and that's in 02:03 - Eureka, Montana. - That's correct, right up there 02:06 in the northwest corner, up near the Canadian border. 02:09 And what is this accent that you bring to us? 02:12 Well, both my wife and I, were born and raised in England, UK, 02:17 but we've been over here in the US for the 6 years. 02:21 And you came to join Restoration International, why don't you 02:24 tell us a little bit about that ministry. 02:26 Restoration International is just a small ministry, 02:29 there's 4 families, and our real burning desire 02:34 is to help people understand practically how to live 02:40 for Christ; not just gain a head of knowledge, 02:43 but how to actually put it into action. 02:47 So we told our audience that what we're going to be speaking 02:51 about today is that personal, intimate relationship 02:54 with the Lord, and I think that all of us at some point 02:58 or another in our life have lost the rhythm of our relationship 03:02 with God. What are some of the tell-tale 03:04 signs that we're heading off in a dangerous direction? 03:09 We're just going to share from our own experience 03:11 because as you said, I think all of us have been there. 03:15 We found ourselves substituting real Christianity for 03:25 "Churchianity", that's a word that's thrown around, 03:27 but we were very busy for the Lord, we were doing all kinds 03:31 of things for the Lord, but what we didn't 03:33 realize is that the heart of the matter, the heart of our 03:37 relationship with Christ was falling away, so we had 03:40 supplemented our personal relationship with God for all 03:45 kinds of external activities, which in and of themselves 03:48 are good and right, but without the heart of the matter, 03:52 it just lost its meaning and its direction. 03:56 So what you're telling me Paul, let me make sure that I 03:59 understand because sometimes people will even ask of me, 04:03 Carolyn, if I say that I'm struggling with keeping 04:06 that intimacy in my relationship and they'll say: 04:08 "You're in full time ministry, what do you mean?" 04:11 But if our priorities become wrong then we can actually 04:14 let ministry take a top priority over our relationship with God. 04:19 Is that what you're saying happened with you, 04:21 - or has happened? - Yes, that's exactly what 04:23 we're saying. You know, if you work as an 04:25 engineer perhaps, or in construction, you know in a way, 04:30 even though that is still working for the Lord 04:32 because we can work for the Lord in many ways, 04:34 but it can feel like that's not the Lord's work, 04:37 so I need to have my own personal relationship with 04:39 Christ, but somehow, when you get into ministry and you're 04:43 busy doing the Lord's work you can think that that is 04:48 your experience with the Lord, but that's working for the Lord, 04:52 which can sometimes be different from working with 04:55 the Lord, that was our experience, that's where we 04:57 found ourselves. 04:59 So, for the time starved Christian out there, 05:04 and there are many of them, how do we, practically speaking, 05:09 put things into motion to get back into that intimacy 05:14 with Christ? 05:16 First of all it's recognizing you need it, often we don't 05:19 recognize that we need it, we rush off into the day 05:21 and don't realize that we never tuned in with God 05:24 in the first place, so right in those first morning hours 05:27 we devote the first part of our day to the Lord, everyday. 05:33 We have found that by doing that we have that connection 05:35 with Him to go through the day, just like in olden times, 05:38 Abraham, Moses, Jacob, our Lord Himself, spent those 05:42 early morning hours; and the manna, as the manna fell 05:46 back in the times of the Old Testament, they plucked it 05:50 first thing in the morning, if they went for it during 05:52 the day it was gone, they had to take it first thing 05:55 in the morning. What about the people out there 05:58 - who are not morning people? - That's a great question 06:02 Shelley, I can really relate because for me, getting up 06:05 in the morning is the hardest thing in the world. 06:09 My wife mentioned a little bit about the manna 06:12 in the Old Testament, for those of you who aren't familiar 06:14 with that, that is the food that God sent for God's people 06:19 whilst they were wondering in the wilderness, but where 06:22 would it be if I wasn't a morning person, but I was 06:25 an Israelite all those years ago? 06:27 Would I starve and say: "Well sorry, I'm not up until noon," 06:30 "so I go hungry." No, it would soon become 06:33 a priority, and I would soon be outside my tent picking 06:36 the manna off the ground. 06:42 It's very simple, but for me it's profound, 06:44 it took me 30 years to figure out that the only way 06:48 to get up early, wait for it, is to go to bed early. 06:54 That is so simple, but for ages I'd go to bed at 10-12 06:59 and then wonder why I couldn't get up, and one morning 07:02 I was praying about it, I said: "Lord, why do I struggle," 07:06 "it's not right that I have to get up, I can't get up." 07:10 My wife, she's up with the birds...singing as well, 07:14 but then the Lord was speaking to me in my prayer time: 07:17 "I can change you Paul, you don't have to stay" 07:20 "the way you are", of course, we know that, 07:23 God's trying to take an impatient person and make 07:25 them patient, He's trying to take a person who isn't 07:28 studious and make them studious, and just in that same way, 07:31 in answer to prayer, God can take somebody who is not 07:34 a morning person and make them a morning person. 07:38 Whilst it's still a battle, I have to battle everyday, 07:41 by God's grace it's a reality in my life today, 07:43 and it wasn't for a long time, so I hope that's an 07:47 encouragement to some of our viewers. 07:49 For me personally, for 6 years prior to coming to 3ABN 07:54 I was up early every morning because I was running a ministry 07:58 out of my home, I had a lot of time to pray and to study, 08:02 and here the more responsibilities that were added 08:05 it seems that I was beginning to crowd some of that time out, 08:09 so finally I've just prayed, particularly recently, 08:12 I've prayed and said: "Lord, You have my permission to wake" 08:14 "me up early every morning", and I've always been one 08:17 who's been dependant upon an alarm clock, but He's been 08:20 getting me up at 4.30 every morning to spend that time 08:23 with Him before I go to work. There are people though 08:29 who work odd hours, Carolyn, what about these poor people? 08:35 Well, often these poor people will say they are exempt 08:38 to this need but I've been there, I used to work as a 08:42 nurse and as a midwife, so I've done those odd hours, 08:44 those night shift hours, and I've to understand in my own 08:48 personal experience that your day begins when you get up, 08:52 so if you work at night and you get up at 5 o'clock 08:54 in the afternoon, that's when your day begins, 08:57 and you have your first hours of time with Him 09:00 at that time, and then you go throughout your day, 09:03 which happens to be everybody else's night, but you still 09:06 need that for your first thing for your day. 09:09 That was what really helped me when I realized it isn't 09:12 that I have to do this at 8 in the morning when I need 09:14 to be going to bed having worked all night, it's when my day 09:17 starts, which may be 5.30-6.00, whenever it is. 09:21 And what happens when you don't, are there still occasional times 09:26 when you don't get up? 09:29 For one who's never done this, what difference does it make 09:32 in your life Paul, when you get up early in the morning 09:36 and spend this time with God, opposed to say, you wake up, 09:39 hit the floor running and you're out the door? 09:42 I like to relate it, the spiritual world to 09:45 the physical world. If we didn't eat for days 09:49 at a time, sooner or later our stomach would start sending us 09:53 a message: "I need food", and we would start to feel 09:56 some weakness, we would feel that: "I'm going light" 10:00 "in the head", or whatever the situation may be. 10:03 In the spiritual world, once we are sensitive, because so many 10:07 of us have done without morning time, quiet time, personal 10:11 devotion time in the morning, whatever you call it, 10:15 and we're so used to going without it that we don't 10:17 really feel the need for it, but if we pray and ask God 10:21 to put that in our hearts then once we start having 10:24 that morning time, then, I can speak personally, if I go out 10:29 into the day, we're involved in a ministry and we have 10:33 important calls to make and letters to write everyday, 10:36 important in the Lord's sight, but I can say that 10:39 I would almost feel naked if I went off into the day 10:42 without that time with the Lord because the difference 10:45 it makes, just to speak very practically, that time 10:49 in the morning is, for me, not just a reading time, 10:53 it's not just putting in time, it's time to communicate 10:56 with God about the actual day ahead: "Okay Lord," 10:59 "what's coming our way today?" And ask Him for His grace, 11:02 ask Him for wisdom to deal with situations I know of, 11:06 and maybe some of those that I don't know of. 11:08 Then, as you go into the day, after I spent some time 11:12 in God's word and received some council from Him, taken that 11:16 to heart, then to go into the day knowing that you have 11:20 a companion with you, you have a partner with you 11:23 and we're going to go through this day together, 11:26 but to go off into this day without Him, it's like: 11:30 "What am I going to do? Who am I going to talk to?" 11:32 "Where's the strength going to come from?" 11:34 Whilst that may be foreign to some of our viewers, 11:37 once you've experienced it you'll realize that it's not 11:41 safe to be out there without the Lord. 11:45 So you're not referring to just pastors and ministry leaders 11:48 - who need to be doing this? - No. 11:51 In fact, children need to have their time with the Lord, 11:55 and we have young children and from a very young age 11:58 we started them having their little personal devotions 12:01 and the real reason for that is that the whole purpose 12:05 of this time is to connect us to heaven on a daily basis 12:08 so that when our Lord returns we're ready to meet Him 12:12 and to go with Him to that eternal home, 12:14 and we want our children there too, so they need to come 12:17 to understand Jesus for themselves at whatever age 12:20 they are, whatever ability they have to know Jesus. 12:24 So we have committed to our children in our family 12:27 that we will give them the opportunity of learning 12:30 how to have devotions at a very young age. 12:32 The good thing there is that they're developing a habit. 12:35 I just wanted to put in there, the manna, that illustration 12:38 of the food that God sent for His people in the Old Testament, 12:42 who ate the manna? Was it just the pastors? 12:45 Was it just Moses and Aaron? No, they all had to eat, 12:49 and that symbolism goes even further because it was not 12:53 just mom and dad that were eating, the children were eating 12:57 and even the babies in arms were eating the manna 13:02 as it came from mother, so that illustration goes right down 13:06 to the babies that might be in the home. 13:09 Just a short time with the Lord in the morning develops 13:11 a great habit and will save them a bunch of trouble 13:15 that I've had to go through later on in life. 13:17 Don't we wish we'd learn these things earlier as you're 13:19 teaching your children. So from a practical point of view, 13:23 let's explain to our audience what we're discussing here. 13:27 Give an example of how long you spend, what you do, 13:31 are your children having personal devotions by themselves 13:34 or at what age are they able to do that? 13:37 Explain what you are all doing. 13:39 It's probably 2 questions in 1 there, firstly what I do, 13:43 I spend about an hour and a half in my personal devotions 13:46 in the morning, I'm an early bird as he said, 13:48 which is a blessing. I'll firstly go through my 13:51 prayer time with the Lord, and I'm a little dull 13:54 first thing in the morning, so I have a prayer list 13:57 and that's updated on a regular basis, prayer requests 14:01 being put on and answers being taken off, 14:03 so I firstly will spend time in prayer, and then I like 14:07 to spend time after that, to spend a portion of my time 14:11 contemplating, praying about, reading about the life of Christ 14:15 so I read through some portion of the gospels, maybe that 14:18 beautiful book: "Desire of Ages" on His life and spend some time 14:21 not just reading about what He did, but trying to see 14:25 how He dealt with people; look at the examples 14:27 of how he was patient so that I can be that way 14:29 to my children, I can be that way to my husband, 14:32 practicalizing it for my day, and then I move on from there, 14:36 as a mother I always want to spend some time in prayer 14:39 and study about how to be a better mother, 14:42 so I'm looking again at examples in the Bible, 14:45 looking at that beautiful book, but my favorite book on 14:47 child rearing is "Child guidance", it's my all time 14:50 favorite, and I'm there almost every day gleaning something 14:53 that's going to take me through the day because what I read 14:55 yesterday may not keep me for today. 14:57 And "Child Guidance" was written by...? 14:59 - Ellen White. - Okay. 15:01 It's one of my all time favorites, so that's pretty much 15:05 what I do, and there's something either which my 15:08 husband does not do and he'll share what he does, 15:10 is I like to take those little index cards and a verse, 15:13 or maybe a passage, a paragraph, something that I've 15:16 read that really means something for me today, 15:18 I'll write that out, and I'll pin it on my notice board, 15:21 the refrigerator, wherever I happen to be, 15:24 or maybe I'll have a whole section like I've done 15:25 recently just on love in the home, and anything I find 15:29 that relates to love in the home, I'll write it out on there 15:32 and put it in there, that I can pull it out over the next 15:35 few weeks and just keep bringing it back and making 15:38 it practical to my day. So that's what I do personally. 15:42 And that works great for her, but it does not work for me, 15:46 I don't know why, I'm just not that kind of person. 15:48 For me, I have a little PDA, one of those personal digital 15:52 assistants, and I do everything on there, I have the Scriptures 15:56 on there, I have a lot of other inspired books on there 16:02 and one of my favorite things to do in my quiet time 16:04 is to take a verse, just 1 verse and then rewrite it, 16:09 not that I'm trying to add to the Bible, but I'll take, 16:13 for instance, just recently I was going through Psalm 127:1: 16:20 "Except the Lord build the house, they labor" 16:22 "in vain that build", now we're in the process at the moment 16:26 of building a home, so how am I going to take that verse 16:30 and make it really practical, so I started writing it out 16:34 looking up all of the words in there that I could find 16:36 in the concordance, going through the Greek, 16:40 well, that's obviously Hebrew in the Old Testament, 16:43 but going through and then I'd put it in the first person, 16:46 so "Except the Lord build your house, Paul," 16:50 "you labor in vain", and I would change the word "vain" 16:53 for a word that perhaps means more in today's vocabulary, 16:58 and then make that very personal, ponder that verse 17:01 and say: "Lord, help this verse" 17:03 "to be a reality today, the very day ahead of me", 17:07 and when you've spent maybe an hour on one verse 17:11 you have no trouble remembering it " Except the Lord build" 17:14 "the house, they labor in vain", it just comes straight to your 17:17 mind because you've contemplated it, and it goes deeper 17:19 than just the words. So often in many experiences 17:24 we try to read, and I don't think there is anything wrong 17:27 with this necessarily, but we try to read 3 chapters 17:30 in 1 morning and just do a surface reading, that's good 17:33 if you're trying to get the big picture of a story, 17:36 but for me personally, I found, just take 1 verse, 17:40 contemplate it, make it your own and then take it into 17:43 - the day ahead. - I do something that's a little 17:46 bit of a combination of both of you, I journal my prayers 17:50 and during my prayer time I make the Bible part 17:53 of my prayer time and I'll do what you said, 17:56 I'll read and let God speak to me and then I'll write it out 17:58 and pray it back to the Lord, so there's many ways to do this, 18:02 but how about for the children? What do you do? 18:06 Because I'm sure that there are people out there who are 18:08 going to be saying: "My children are not having" 18:11 "a devotional life and I would like to help them" 18:14 "get started", how do you do that for your children? 18:16 Well, I'd like to take it right back to babyhood, 18:19 and that's where we started. You may say "babyhood?!" 18:22 But you know, as our children were just babies 18:24 we would just put on a Scripture song tape or CD 18:28 in their rooms and just allow that to be playing, 18:30 it was filtering into their minds even though 18:33 they didn't know it, and then as they got to around about 2 18:35 and they'd be waking up at about 6.30-7.00 o'clock 18:38 in the morning, just naturally, I'd put a little picture book 18:41 in my daughter's lap, just a Bible picture book 18:44 so she'd have the Scripture songs playing and a Bible 18:46 picture book. Then when she got to maybe 3-4 18:49 we would read to her. We'd have our own devotion 18:52 times, and we were still having morning worship, but we were 18:55 creating a habit. We knew she wouldn't 18:57 remember what we had done, but we knew we were creating 19:00 a habit that it will be so natural to her when she was 19:03 older that she'd rather miss a meal than miss her time 19:05 with the Lord. So we did it with both of them. 19:09 As they got into about 3-4 years of age, we would 19:12 read Bible stories to them and then when they got 19:14 to the age of about 6 when they started to begin to read 19:17 then we bought them their own Bibles so they could begin 19:20 to read just little verses here and little verses there, 19:23 and now at 9 years old, my daughter will, particularly 19:25 Hannah, she's reading through herself. 19:28 She's got a book called "Councils on diets and food", 19:31 she was so interested to know about why we eat 19:34 the way we do and how we live the way we do 19:36 and she's now coming to us saying: "Mummy, did you know" 19:39 "that we do..." and she explains this whole thing 19:42 about why we do what we do, and it's beautiful to see 19:45 she's enthusiastic; and something else she likes 19:47 to do is she will, and I'll help her obviously, go through 19:50 the Bible concordance. She struggles with not arguing 19:53 with her brother, so she wanted to learn about her words 19:56 and how she should order her words after the Lord, 19:59 so she would go through her concordance and look up 20:01 those Scripture on words, lips, speech, mouth, tongue, 20:05 all of those relevant words and then write out those verses 20:08 relevant to her that really meant something to her. 20:11 You may say "Well that's the sort of thing you would do" 20:14 "in your twenties", but a younger child can if they have 20:17 guidance from the parents, and that is the key, 20:20 we don't just put them over there and they do their 20:23 and they do their quiet time when we do ours, 20:25 "in what you read, and how's that going to help you today" 20:28 "not to argue with you brother", or whatever the situation is. 20:31 Let me share what we do with Caleb because boys and girls 20:34 are very different, they are just poles apart, at least 20:37 our 2 are. For Caleb, if you sit him down 20:40 with a book he'll have 5 minutes and then he's done, 20:44 he hasn't really digested anything, he hasn't really 20:46 - learned anything... - Hannah is 9 and a half, 20:50 - and Caleb is 7? - That's correct, yeah, 20:52 so what we've done with Caleb that seems to have caught 20:56 his attention is we'll give him a Bible story to listen to, 21:00 just something out of the gospels, on his headphones... 21:03 - ...And dramatized. - Yeah, and he will listen 21:06 to it and we ask him to draw a picture, just stick men 21:10 or the best of his ability anyway, draw a picture 21:13 of what he's been listening to, and it might just be a short 21:16 while, and he spends most of his time drawing out while 21:18 we have his attention, and then afterwards, when we come 21:22 together as a family I say: "So Caleb, tell me about" 21:26 "this picture" and you wouldn't believe the detail 21:30 that they pick up. Just for him, that's what works 21:33 for him. His sister, being a little bit 21:35 older, being a bit more of a book worm, 21:37 she's happy to read, but I know there's going to be 21:40 some viewers out there that say "You mean my little children" 21:43 "sit still?" Start with 5 minutes, 21:45 soon it'll be 15-20, and it doesn't really need to be 21:48 much more than that at their tender age. 21:51 I'm understanding that you actually are encouraging them 21:54 to have a personal devotional time, this is not 21:57 a group effort. Do you come together 22:00 - as a group afterwards? - We do, we have family worship 22:03 which is short and spirited, it's not a long affair. 22:07 Often times what we'll do, and sometimes it'll take up 22:10 our whole morning worship period, just 15-20 minutes, 22:13 we will just share what daddy learned in his quiet time, 22:17 and my wife will share what she learned, and we'll ask 22:19 the children what they learned, and we learned that 22:23 from some friends of ours in California when we were staying 22:25 in their home, and what a blessing it is 22:27 because for instance, my son, if he's just coasted through, 22:33 drifted through his quiet time, he didn't really gain anything, 22:36 we know because in worship time we'll say: "what did you learn?" 22:40 "Erm...well..." and you can see. 22:43 And he'll tell us what he did at that point, not what 22:45 - he learned. - Yeah, and I'll say to him 22:48 "Caleb, not what did you do, what did you learn?" 22:50 And actually it'll come down to it, actually he didn't 22:53 learn anything. Well that's okay, there's 22:56 tomorrow, but if this goes on morning after morning 22:58 we say: "Okay Caleb, we need to talk here, we need to readjust" 23:02 "the course because it's not happening." 23:04 Of course, it normally shows up in their way of carrying on 23:07 during the day if they're not connecting with the Lord 23:10 personally. 23:12 This just impresses me so much that I believe many of our 23:15 viewers are going to want to know how they can start 23:19 training, some of them are going to have to be playing catch up, 23:23 but this is something that I assume you are teaching 23:29 when you have your family camp meetings with 23:31 Restoration International. Do you have some materials 23:34 available to teach people how to encourage their children 23:39 to develop this personal walk with the Lord. 23:42 What we've been sharing Shelley is really just a cooked down 23:47 version of a full message that actually our whole family 23:50 does together, Carolyn and I, and our 2 children will share 23:53 for about an hour, it's called "Feeding the soul", 23:56 it's from a CD album called "Guiding Principles for" 24:01 "the Personal Walk", that is available from our ministry, 24:04 Restoration International. If any of the viewers want that 24:07 they can feel free to write in or call in. 24:10 Like I say, this is just a very condensed version, 24:13 there's a lot more that we could share. 24:15 - Do you have a website? - www.restoration- 24:20 international.org. 24:24 "restoration-international.org"? 24:27 That's right. 24:29 Tell us a little bit more about these family camp meetings. 24:32 We just enjoy family camp meetings, it runs from 24:35 a Wednesday through to a Sunday, there's 7 of them 24:37 around the US and several overseas as well, there's one 24:41 in Romania, another one in the Philippines, most of them are 24:46 based here in the US, but families come together 24:50 from the local area and we have 4 messages a day, 24:55 which isn't really very congested, there's plenty 24:58 of time for talking in between. All the messages that are given 25:02 there are just practical "How to"s of living 25:07 the Christian life, we've talked a little bit this morning 25:10 about personal devotion times, but the topic's are on marriage, 25:13 upon childhood rearing, schooling, how to die to self, 25:18 how to live for Christ, 25:21 given not just by my wife and I, but our associates, 25:24 Tom and Alane Waters, who also do "Marriage in God's Hands" 25:27 here on 3ABN, and another family, Edwin and Maria Nebblett 25:32 So we have quite a variety of speakers meeting quite 25:35 a variety of the congregation. 25:37 We praise the Lord for the ministry He has given you. 25:40 Paul, why don't you just look to our viewers and explain 25:45 to them in a concise way why there is such a great need 25:50 to have this personal morning devotion time. 25:54 We have to make it a priority, we have so many things in life 25:58 that push themselves to the front, but we have to allow 26:03 God to come to the front of our lives, and that for me means 26:07 the front of our day, the beginning of our day, 26:10 and to make it really work at the beginning of the day 26:14 as we shared with Shelley, it's got to start with a commitment 26:20 to Christ to go to bed at a reasonable hour. 26:24 If we're willing to go to bed at a reasonable hour, 26:27 ask Him to wake us, then we have every confidence He'll 26:30 wake us in the morning. My favorite thing to do 26:34 is to sit in my La-Z-boy chair, and after I've had my prayers... 26:39 on my knees, I'll sit in the chair and I'll put that handle 26:42 and I'll just sit back and I'll open up God's word 26:45 and say: "Lord, be my teacher today", you can't beat it. 26:50 The house is quiet, I don't know if the viewers there, 26:52 you might have children, at least in our house it's getting 26:55 a little better now, but when the children are up 26:58 the day has started, so whilst it's quiet, a time for daddy 27:02 to connect with the Lord, then I can lead my family 27:05 through the day. 27:07 I think that's beautiful and I just want to thank you 27:09 Carolyn and Paul, both of you, for being here with us today, 27:14 and I'm sure you're familiar with Kenneth Cox, 27:16 the evangelist, he made the comment that when 27:20 he found he was avoiding, or not getting in his personal 27:24 time in the morning in the word, he made a commitment 27:27 to the Lord that he would not eat physically unless he had 27:32 eaten spiritually, and he said ever since he made that 27:35 commitment, he said: "I always find time for the word of God", 27:40 so I want to challenge you to do the same, 27:43 until the next time, may the grace of our Lord, 27:45 Jesus Christ, the love of the Father and the fellowship 27:48 of the Holy Spirit be with you, thank you so much 27:52 for joining us today. |
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