Hello, I am Shelley Quinn,
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and welcome to
Issues and Answers.
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Do you often contemplate
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the science of the times;
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you know we look
around its amazing
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what's going on
in this world today.
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Jesus told his
disciples in Matthew 24
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that the end of
the age could be known
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by the science by
wars and rumors of wars,
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and nation rising
against nation famines,
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pestilences earthquakes,
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and he told
them to be so careful
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that their not deceived.
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And in Matthew 24 and verse 42
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he said watch
therefore for you do not know
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what hour your Lord is coming,
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But know this,
that if the master
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of the house had known
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what hour the thief would come,
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he would have
watched and not allowed
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his house to be broken into.
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Therefore you also be ready,
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for the Son of Man is coming
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at an hour you do not expect.
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We have a
marvelous program to you,
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for you today and
we are going to discuss
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some of the signs of
the end of the times.
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And our special
guest is an expert
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in theology
it's a matter of fact
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it's my joy to introduce you
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to Dr. Herbert
Douglas. And Dr. Douglas,
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thank you so much,
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may I call you Herbert.
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My pleasure! And you have your
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Doctorial degree is in theology
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you've been professor
at from coast to coast,
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alright Pacific Union and
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Atlantic Union Colleges.
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Tell our audience a little bit
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more about some
of the career paths
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that the Lord has led you on.
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Well, working with young people
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in my life it's been a
joy and then they call me
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to be associate
editor of the Review and,
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at with our church paper,
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and that was new
experience talking
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to the world field. Yes.
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And then I went
to Pacific Union,
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well Pacific Press
Publishing Association
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well they ask me
to be vice-president
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for Editorial Development
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just getting books
ready that people need.
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Wonderful, and
then my last seven years
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about 45 year career
was at Weimar Institute.
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Well, that was a
challenge because
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I had not been
really prepared for,
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but everything God had asked me
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to do up until
then I needed there
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in that wonderful place. Amen.
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But let me ask you a question,
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I have noticed when
I was looking through
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your book you
have authored 20 books,
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20 books. How did
you find time to do that
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with everything
else you were doing?
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That's the fun part,
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I never wrote a book
on somebody else's time
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always did it my
own time weekends
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I would type it out
do it royal you know
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my wife would edit
it and we work it over
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then she had to
retype what we just edited
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two or three, four times.
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If was the
computers came out, you know,
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right, and it's all
being the last two years ago,
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we have the computer.
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But we always had time
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and the one
time in the year when
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we really got away
from the phone this one
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we took at
cruse, and then everyday
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we just worked over the papers
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and press proofs
and all that and that
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was our vacation.
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Oh! Glory to God I
am glad that you spend
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this time because I understand
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that you have many
good books out there,
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and you are well
read a well read author.
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Now, your latest book,
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I love the title
of this it's called
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Never Been This Late Before,
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what gave you that
idea for that title.
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Well, a few years ago,
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I heard the story
the young teenager
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in Northern Vermont,
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and his job was to
clean up a clock store
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and to make sure
the clocks are timing
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at the same time have
you ever been in a house,
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yes, with a more
than one clock, mine.
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Okay, and my
grandmother had one,
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and it's quite a chore.
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Well, we did it
very well everyday
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until one day at
noontime one clock
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was hitting
twelve and then thirteen
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and fourteen and
fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
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thirty, thirty-one, thirty-two,
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and he ran out of the store
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crying in the street
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its never been this late before.
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Okay, okay.
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And this the way
I feel when I read
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my newspapers my news magazines
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is never been
this late before. Amen.
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Well, I noticed
in your book Herbert
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you have got a lot of statistics
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about
earthquakes, and pestilences
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and famines and
you know it occur to me
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I mean the hurricanes many,
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many things that
your talking about here
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it occur to me
people are getting
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rather use to
people talking about
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these kind of statistics,
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what's different
what so new about this
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haven't we always had
this kind of problems.
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That's the issue Shelley,
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pickup any book
right now written
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by an Adventist or
Baptist or Methodist
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whatever and they are
using the same old generic
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time that you have
just read Matthew 24.
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For the last 2000 years give me
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any ten years in the last 2000
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is not show you somebody,
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somebody is read on Matthew 2
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or Matthew 24 or Daniel 2.
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The same text
now we've been boring
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people with in a way because
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that's all they hear and finally
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when we get
bored you lose interest
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and you will go into a
kind of a spiritual Holiday
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and so what's new
that's not the way
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we should go out my
book is going to tackle
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those signs in a different way.
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And how, what is
the different way
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that you are tackling this?
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I know that you
really you dedicate
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a whole chapter
to economic troubles,
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and what is this you know
we have had the depression
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before we've had
stock market crashes,
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but your convinced
that the economic troubles
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are really going
to be a sign for us.
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Do you remember back about 1991
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of that perfect storm, yes,
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on the East Coast
and there were film on TV
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about it, yes, I
have good book about it,
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and two monster storms
come in up from Canada,
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one come in up to
East Coast colliding
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that very often does its happen
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in such a furious manner
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and the ships have
to come in of course,
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and one ship was out
too far trying to make
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that last catch was in October
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of the season Andrea Gail
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and they didn't make.
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Well, this world is
not facing a perfect storm
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of two colliding storms is seven
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that you read in
the book seven storms
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converging at this time.
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It's the monstrous
mother of all perfect storms.
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And what were
those seven be if you can
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site those? Well you
already mentioned one,
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but I am going to look
at why there is enormous
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of earthquakes
in my first chapter?
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And then you discover
I will go for more later,
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how there has
been a great increase
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of frequency of this storms?
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I am just taking
this from 1900 absolutely
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and not only frequency,
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but the
terrifying increased storms
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we have it just been for our own
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and then war the
same way and earthquakes
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and tornadoes its
statistics are telling us
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something that we
haven't seen before
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its really a storm
that we haven't seen.
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And next one is
economic crisis the stress not
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just in this country
every country in the world
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is facing the same
global kind of interconnection
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of economic trouble
that we never seen before.
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I guess when you
consider the fact
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if you want to
think about international
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financial
collapse, when we consider
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the fact that the United States
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has barrowed so
much money that we even
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barrowing money
to pay the interest
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on what we owe
is my understanding
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we can't pay the
interest on the depth that owe.
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If somebody, If
somebody were together,
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if we collapse
everybody else is gonna collapse
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and if one of them
collapses and calls us,
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we are all gonna collapse.
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Hey you get to be an
expert that's the way
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it is it's a
domino effect isn't it?
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Japan and China own
more of our treasury bucks
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by far this 70, 75
percent that we hold them right,
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if ever start have a
little trouble over there
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they want to take
out some of that money
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somebody is got to pay them,
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anyway we will get into that.
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But when we talk about
the signs in Matthew 24
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there is something
interesting that Jesus
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give us to clue on.
He said after you see
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the signs of
the war and violence
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be not alarmed he said
this is not the big end
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of anything just the beginning.
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And then he talks
about the sorrow these
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are just a beginning
of sorrows of birth pains,
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birth pains are you
know something about that?
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No. Unfortunately I
have not had children,
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but I know a lot
of people who are been
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through with them anyway.
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Well, any, any woman
who has given the birth
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understands
immediately what that word says
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but it is not
translated in a way that
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you can understand it
better its gonna be like
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birth pains and you
know after nine months
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go by there is some indications
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there is
something is about to happen
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and some times labor begins
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two weeks in
advance we get a little clue
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there and then about 20 minutes
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you gonna have the crib ready
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and the carburetor gassed up,
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10 minutes you will
becoming more frequent,
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becoming more obvious
and something is about
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to happen and in 5 minutes
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she might be in
the hospital, yeah.
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That's where we are
today the birth pains
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of this world
have become so frequent
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and so much more powerful,
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it just like the
dam is about to break,
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that's true, just
like woman's water breaks
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she know, exactly
what were above begins.
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We are not
talking theory you know
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we are talking
about the evidence
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we can look at in this book.
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And we certainly
know that at least today,
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you know, we've
talked you go anywhere
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and you talk with anybody
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and I think one
of the primary topics
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is the price of
oil, and people see that
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it wouldn't take much to
really create an economic
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disaster in United States.
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Chapter 2 goes into that,
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the very fact you have mentioned
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in this chock points
and it processing of oil
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around this world.
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Well I just
yesterday one of the biggest
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oil producers
in Alaska shutdown,
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yes, and it will
be for weeks to come
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they have raised the price
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of gas maybe $4, $5.
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Well, you know, I
shouldn't say $4, $5,
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but 2, 4 price of
oil would be $4, $5
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and maybe raise at
$0.25 per more on the gas.
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We've been seeing anything else.
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You know when you think about
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I often heard,
heard that you know
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people will say I
can't believe that
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the United States whatever
change from the democracy
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that we are in,
but we saw during 9/11
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when people were
willing to give up
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there freedoms to,
to have more security
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and right now I
have people talking
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I am just while here,
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I can go to the
gas service station
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and you get people
talking they are ready
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for the government
to come in and put a cap
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on this or
takeover the oil industry
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or there is many
things that are already
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been setup. How do
you see the United States
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fitting into the Bible
scenario in time events?
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You know 100 years ago,
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when Adventists
were talking about
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the United States of prophecy.
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For many people
it sound delusionary,
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100 years ago,
but right about then
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Teddy Roosevelt our president
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sent the American fleet pin
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of the all light
and sent them all around
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the world to every nation really
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they had a port,
emphasizing that hey
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we are here we are world power,
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and then the first
world war they needed us
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to stop the first
world war in France,
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we never have to
emphasize what we had
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to do in the second
world war it's there,
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we had to do something about it
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and then with the go
for came no body questioned
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after that who was
the world's super power
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no body questioned that.
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No, what is that's
all mean in Bible prophecy
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we understand and
we could work that else
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every time that
you don't have to use
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imagination to see how
this world this country
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influences how
the world things about
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and then relief who
do they turn to when
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they want famine
relief for example
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well they want us to
help out in some military
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problem they always
want something from us
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because we have the technique
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and the ability and
confidence and so forth.
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We spend far our more
money on our military,
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far more than many, many,
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countries put together,
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and so we are
that will super power.
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So, what does that happen during
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the end time events?
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Well, according to
Revelation 11 and 14
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and 13 you have
this young nation arising
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become a super
power that will be used
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by evil forces I
hate to put it that way
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the land of the free
the home of the brave
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makes you feel
talking like this.
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But they won't
recognize that is used by
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evil forces, I mean maybe
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the evil force behind it,
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but would you agree
that it doesn't their
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not gonna recognized
that it is an evil force
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I know that. Any time
you started thinking about
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conversing somebody else's
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fundamental
believes, you got a problem
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with evil. Yeah. But you already
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mentioned that
earlier that when this nation
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is concerned more about security
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than about
freedom the time comes
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when it is more
important to get together,
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stay together and
not have device element
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such as somebody's
theology separating us,
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I say doesn't like the theology
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its time to get
together like brothers
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and sisters of the Lord,
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God blesses a righteous nation
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that show God that we indeed
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are going to find the
America that once was,
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and we are going to
have him prominently
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not only abide in a way,
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but we are
gonna show him one day
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a week that we are
United nation in this country
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and that makes that world empire
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will show the
whole world how to bring
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people together.
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It's not the time
for device theology,
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it's not the time
for any of distraction,
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but dialogue and diversity,
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understanding everybody
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had the right to
their own opinion
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let's just worry
about how to get together
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can we all get along.
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And you know we
have seen this setup,
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I was I mean in so many ways,
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but particularly I
recently heard that
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they were talking
about oh in England trying
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to pass a law about hate crimes
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that if you say anything
against another religion,
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or gender, or gender
its consider the hate crime.
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So, we see that if
that passes in England
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or past year. Its
already past in Canada,
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and we're seeing it
that all of the sudden
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is going to be where we
have no freedom of speech
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that we know
that somebody could be
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publishing heresy about
this Bible about our God,
00:16:21.80\00:16:27.55
and according to
our religious tenants
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and our
foundation and our believe
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if we speak out
and say some ones wrong
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that we get into prison,
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and we see people
who are ready to pass
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this law just, in
the United States,
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in the United
States just because someone
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has said well we will
get rid of hate crimes.
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Absolutely. So, here we
see then the United States
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is according to
Bible prophecy this nation,
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this nation with the
land like horns they raised up
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out of the earth
and it's gonna speak
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or look like lamb speak
like a dragon eventually.
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We see that we are
getting into this place
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where we are super powering now
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we could exercise that authority
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and have exercise the
authority to sanction.
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How can that all happen you see
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there are politicians of course
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one of be
constitutionally correct,
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Yeah. But we live in a world
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where political corruption,
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where all kinds of pressures
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are put on politicians,
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and in this country
we have done a number
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of things against jogs,
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what this is for
example for suing the flag,
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yes and be thrown in jail.
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We have done a
number of the Japanese
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into concentration camps,
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violated our constitution.
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So, appealing to
the constitution is not
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always the last refugee,
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we are going to have a day
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day while it seems better
00:17:58.95\00:18:00.62
to vote for the
majority and the minority
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will have to come along or else.
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I don't if your
here but down in Missouri
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they tried to pass
a law that was gonna
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make Christian, Christianity
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the majority religion. Amazing!
00:18:12.62\00:18:14.97
And you know its hard I know
00:18:14.98\00:18:17.50
I can understand is a
difficult thing to say
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that I want to pass
laws to protect a Muslim
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or Hindu's freedom,
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but if I want to
protect my freedom
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even though I may
totally disagree with them,
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but we've got to
protect their freedom as well,
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but that is all being thrown,
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but you becoming
intolerant by pursing,
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the Christian
emphasis, you are intolerant.
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And you know
it's just interesting
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that it's kind of a
sea-saw back and forth,
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you not gonna win?
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No but now here
is the United States
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is we see in
prophecy and representing
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Protestantism. How do you see
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the Vatican and
the Catholic system
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fitting into? Anybody
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who has been looking at anything
00:19:00.83\00:19:03.31
the last 50 years
has to be simply amaze
00:19:03.32\00:19:06.03
at the rise of people
influence in this world.
00:19:06.04\00:19:10.05
And Pope John
II was a poster boy
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of the best side of Catholics
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he was a neat guy. Yes.
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I mean he was
everybody love the guy,
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when he died
look how many people
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look how many
people that who they were
00:19:23.80\00:19:25.90
they came to his funeral
nothing like in the world
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of course with the
grad design of the Vatican
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if you read about
in their own books
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that's where I
get my information.
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They understand themselves
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to be the more
continuous of the world,
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and we have many,
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many incidences in this country
00:19:44.92\00:19:46.67
where we even
had a medal produced
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authorized by the
Congress recognizing
00:19:49.99\00:19:53.24
them as a moral
influence in this world
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its amazing oh this is happened
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in the last you
know give it 50 years,
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and United
States is handing globe
00:20:01.34\00:20:05.04
of course on common interest
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common causes you will
not be religious at first
00:20:08.26\00:20:11.63
you will be the,
we are interested
00:20:11.64\00:20:13.38
in the common
concerns with poverty
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and lack of
education in many countries
00:20:16.28\00:20:19.57
and bringing people up to speed
00:20:19.58\00:20:21.87
so that they can
participate in the rest
00:20:21.88\00:20:24.77
of the world
that. Where moving aid
00:20:24.78\00:20:28.27
is a problem all of
these are common causes
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that and very good causes,
00:20:30.49\00:20:32.02
abortion for
example to join this
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no more murdering of the infants
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it's a slam dunk
as the how the leaders
00:20:36.16\00:20:42.38
of this country the
leaders of the papacy
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come together on common causes
00:20:44.31\00:20:45.84
and of these just one
of those simple things
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not that the Catholic Church
00:20:49.70\00:20:51.12
is telling in
United States which day
00:20:51.13\00:20:52.31
to worship on we will
tell the Catholic Church
00:20:52.32\00:20:55.15
that we're gonna worship
00:20:55.16\00:20:56.13
on that day which of course its.
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And Dr. Douglas, I
think if somebody is you
00:20:57.55\00:21:00.17
and I really understand
what we are talking about
00:21:00.18\00:21:02.27
because our Church
has been very is noted
00:21:02.28\00:21:07.27
for its studies on prophecy,
00:21:07.28\00:21:09.59
but how would you for some one
00:21:09.60\00:21:11.36
who is out there
watching who is saying
00:21:11.37\00:21:13.24
so what if the United States
00:21:13.25\00:21:15.24
and the Catholic
Church the papal system.
00:21:15.25\00:21:18.01
So what if they come together
00:21:18.02\00:21:20.06
on all these issues.
00:21:20.07\00:21:21.13
So, what if the ecumenical
00:21:21.14\00:21:24.02
societies win out,
00:21:24.03\00:21:25.66
and we all become
one happy religion
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why should we be concerned about
00:21:27.99\00:21:29.71
those things? Well,
it will be wonderful
00:21:29.72\00:21:33.39
if he didn't matter to the Lord.
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Truths Does
Matter that was the title
00:21:34.98\00:21:37.52
the last book I wrote.
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Truth Does Matter is not how
00:21:38.51\00:21:40.96
I feel about it
anything that matters really
00:21:40.97\00:21:43.56
and God isn't
going to redeem rebels,
00:21:43.57\00:21:48.37
rebels will not
live forever is not going
00:21:48.38\00:21:51.54
have sin just keep ongoing
00:21:51.55\00:21:53.73
and there are many,
many people out there
00:21:53.74\00:21:58.59
in the Buddhist
and Hindu religions
00:21:58.60\00:22:01.44
in the Catholic
Church, in the Baptist Church,
00:22:01.45\00:22:03.46
Methodist
Church, Adventist Church
00:22:03.47\00:22:05.59
who will see more
clearly as time goes on
00:22:05.60\00:22:08.87
that there are going
to be two groups of people
00:22:08.88\00:22:11.57
in this world
before law its shaping up
00:22:11.58\00:22:14.79
those who are
willingly obedient what God
00:22:14.80\00:22:17.88
has asked to do they
will be part of Matthew
00:22:17.89\00:22:22.33
or Revelation 14
were God's sources loudly
00:22:22.34\00:22:25.62
says that when I hear
those willingly obedient,
00:22:25.63\00:22:28.80
just obedient and
those over here who keep my
00:22:28.81\00:22:32.48
commandments in
the faith of Jesus
00:22:32.49\00:22:34.91
there is only two
groups in the end you can judge
00:22:34.92\00:22:37.46
a minister in any
church but what do you think
00:22:37.47\00:22:41.52
about the end of
the world in theology.
00:22:41.53\00:22:43.00
So, let me see if I
understand what you saying
00:22:43.01\00:22:48.14
if I can summarize this.
00:22:48.15\00:22:49.18
There are many well
meaning good Christians,
00:22:49.19\00:22:55.41
Amen. And we
believe that God's children
00:22:55.42\00:22:57.17
are in every
denomination, amen amen.
00:22:57.18\00:22:59.86
But the Bible clearly
tell us in Revelation 18
00:22:59.87\00:23:03.05
it tell us the he is calling
00:23:03.06\00:23:04.97
he says come out of her Babylon
00:23:04.98\00:23:08.01
which is a false
worship system in worship
00:23:08.02\00:23:10.94
come out of her my people
00:23:10.95\00:23:12.40
and at the end of
the times the Lord
00:23:12.41\00:23:14.98
is gonna stand up with
the Three Angels Messages
00:23:14.99\00:23:18.55
of Revelation 14 saying
worship the creator God,
00:23:18.56\00:23:23.47
God you know do
not take the mark
00:23:23.48\00:23:25.81
on your forehead
and we as church believe
00:23:25.82\00:23:29.13
and I believe that
this was proven to me
00:23:29.14\00:23:32.33
before I became an Adventist
00:23:32.34\00:23:33.70
just a few years
ago when I first heard
00:23:33.71\00:23:36.40
the Adventist are interpretation
00:23:36.41\00:23:40.86
of prophecy it was
like unlike anything
00:23:40.87\00:23:43.96
I never heard, so I would study
00:23:43.97\00:23:45.79
and study and study
against the scriptures
00:23:45.80\00:23:48.67
and I though this is the
answer all of the answers
00:23:48.68\00:23:51.84
were found in
scripture rather than
00:23:51.85\00:23:53.74
supplying it from the outside.
00:23:53.75\00:23:54.97
So, well we see going on
is the fulfillment of Bible
00:23:54.98\00:24:01.37
prophecy and
going toward a forced
00:24:01.38\00:24:06.02
Sunday keeping
religion which is part of the
00:24:06.03\00:24:09.91
system of Babylon.
00:24:09.92\00:24:11.06
We are leaving out one element
00:24:11.07\00:24:12.97
and that is uniting
protestants and Catholics
00:24:12.98\00:24:17.25
and all kinds of even
religions is spiritualism,
00:24:17.26\00:24:23.61
yes, you see
that's one thing that they
00:24:23.62\00:24:26.75
are together on
without really be in cautious
00:24:26.76\00:24:29.84
about it the
immortal soul we all believe
00:24:29.85\00:24:32.50
in someway people
don't well they don't
00:24:32.51\00:24:36.87
rest in grave they
either go to eternal hell
00:24:36.88\00:24:39.92
or eternal heaven
and or you just never die
00:24:39.93\00:24:45.12
anyway just keep on
going but when you have
00:24:45.13\00:24:47.66
that is a common thread
that pulls them together
00:24:47.67\00:24:50.26
you have something ó awesome
00:24:50.27\00:24:52.88
who is gonna
deny, if your father
00:24:52.89\00:24:56.22
and mother or some
love one or a close friend
00:24:56.23\00:25:00.46
comes to you after they are that
00:25:00.47\00:25:02.61
and talk to you
just as you and talk
00:25:02.62\00:25:05.03
about things only
you and they understand,
00:25:05.04\00:25:07.26
its happening right
now its happening, yeah,
00:25:07.27\00:25:10.66
we have a TV
network Psychic network
00:25:10.67\00:25:13.80
that's what they do,
yeah, a whole TV network
00:25:13.81\00:25:17.20
on this that's
all we see everyday.
00:25:17.21\00:25:18.76
You know I have to
quickly inject my sister
00:25:18.77\00:25:22.01
I thought when I was sharing
00:25:22.02\00:25:24.09
with my sister
from Matthew 5: 28, 29
00:25:24.10\00:25:26.61
how Jesus at his
return will speak to all
00:25:26.62\00:25:29.29
who were in their
graves and some would come
00:25:29.30\00:25:31.43
forth to everlasting
life and some to everlasting
00:25:31.44\00:25:33.92
destruction she
was going wait a minute
00:25:33.93\00:25:35.82
what do mean in the
graves and see even though
00:25:35.83\00:25:39.10
she was a Sabbath Keeper
00:25:39.11\00:25:40.71
she is not an Adventist
00:25:40.72\00:25:42.57
and she didn't
know the truth about the
00:25:42.58\00:25:44.36
state of the
dead they were resting
00:25:44.37\00:25:45.73
in their graves. She was so mad
00:25:45.74\00:25:47.77
at me to think that our mother
00:25:47.78\00:25:49.62
was in heaven that
she was screening at me
00:25:49.63\00:25:51.97
and then she went
and did I said go get
00:25:51.98\00:25:54.49
your concordance out
and do this Bible study
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and she became
convinced that were
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she had been about spiritualism.
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So, how does
all of theses thing,
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everything that
we discussing today
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how does this is
come together to make
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the perfect storm?
What we have then is,
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people who unit
together on such common
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bonds as a
mortality disorder, alright.
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Common bonds and
God must be within you
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because your
part of his creation
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that you're not
just his handy work,
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but that God is
within you that's new
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spirituality by
the way that's sweeping
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this country, sure,
for the last 20-25 years,
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you never heard anything
like this we use to call
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it new age. Well,
that went underground
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as come up as new spirituality
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I take you into any books store
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any book stores,
especially Christian
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books stores and
most of the books
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are written by new spirituality,
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Wayne Dyer or Alistair Grab,
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or Dallas
Willard or Richard Foster
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this are
gracious wonderful people,
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but they believe
that they good within you
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just bring in out
becoming then you wanted
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to do as long as you
concentrate on the good
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within I am gonna
argue with that where
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their everybody is simple out,
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I agree you good too.
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And they use the
scripture the Kingdom of God
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is with them and
they'll take out context
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and not apply the
rest of the Bible.
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We are almost
already out of time,
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I want you to come back
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and let's talk
about new spirituality
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so that people really understand
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what's going on. I understand.
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I would like to
understand more too
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you know and what. I understand.
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I want to invite you
to contact Amazing Facts
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at amazing facts.org
and get this wonderful book
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Never Been this Late Before by
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Dr. Herbert Edgar Douglass,
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and please you
know Jesus said that
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we could be deceived
and we can be deceived
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if we don't know
the word of God. Amen.
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You must get into the Bible
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and get to know the word.
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