Hello. I'm Shelley Queen and welcome to another 00:00:30.75\00:00:32.88 Issues and Answers. 00:00:32.91\00:00:34.01 Today we are going to talk about the most important issue 00:00:34.04\00:00:37.62 that faces mankind today. 00:00:37.65\00:00:39.17 We are going to be talking about what we can do to inherit, 00:00:39.21\00:00:42.68 notice the emphasis on inherit, eternal life. 00:00:42.71\00:00:46.18 I want to share a scripture with you because I think it is a 00:00:46.22\00:00:50.16 beautiful scripture that brings me much joy. 00:00:50.19\00:00:53.03 Isaiah wrote: 'I will greatly rejoice in my Lord. 00:00:53.07\00:00:57.37 My soul will exult in my God for He has clothed me with the 00:00:57.41\00:01:01.74 garments of salvation and He has covered me with the robe of 00:01:01.78\00:01:06.08 righteousness. ' 00:01:06.11\00:01:07.29 That's Isaiah 61 and verse 10. 00:01:07.33\00:01:09.62 That reminds me of another of my favorite scriptures in Psalm 00:01:09.66\00:01:13.43 16:11. 00:01:13.46\00:01:14.65 The psalmist wrote: 'He has shown me the path of life. 00:01:14.69\00:01:18.75 I find joy in His presence forevermore. ' 00:01:18.78\00:01:22.21 We are going to be talking today with Margaret Davis. 00:01:22.25\00:01:26.00 Let me just introduce her to you. 00:01:26.03\00:01:27.77 Margaret, welcome. We're so glad that you are here. 00:01:27.81\00:01:31.62 And you came all the way from Armstrong, British Columbia. 00:01:31.66\00:01:35.34 Um hum. 00:01:35.37\00:01:36.34 Pleasant trip? 00:01:36.35\00:01:37.36 So and so. 00:01:37.40\00:01:38.55 So so pleasant trip. 00:01:38.59\00:01:39.56 But you came to share some really good news 00:01:39.57\00:01:41.82 with us today. - Yes. 00:01:41.85\00:01:43.23 And I know just from talking with you briefly that God has 00:01:43.27\00:01:46.94 shown you the path of life and 00:01:46.97\00:01:49.73 you are finding joy in His presence. 00:01:49.77\00:01:51.60 So have compiled Bible scriptures and inspirational 00:01:51.64\00:01:58.22 writing in a wonderful little book called 'What Shall I Do 00:01:58.25\00:02:01.31 to Inherit Eternal Life'. 00:02:01.34\00:02:03.40 Where did you get this title for this book? 00:02:03.43\00:02:06.91 well in the Bible in Luke 18 a young ruler comes to Jesus 00:02:06.94\00:02:13.18 and he says: ' What shall I do to inherit eternal life?' 00:02:13.22\00:02:19.45 And Jesus answers: ' Keep the commandments. ' 00:02:19.48\00:02:23.03 and he says:' Well I have done that from my youth up I've 00:02:23.06\00:02:27.63 kept the commandments. What lack I yet?' 00:02:27.66\00:02:31.35 And then Jesus explained to him what he lacked. 00:02:31.39\00:02:36.33 He was a very selfish young man. 00:02:36.36\00:02:39.52 He kept all his riches for himself. 00:02:39.55\00:02:42.68 He didn't know anything about the love of God. 00:02:42.71\00:02:45.81 Amen. 00:02:45.85\00:02:46.99 And love is the fulfilling of the Lord. 00:02:47.02\00:02:50.02 Amen. 00:02:50.06\00:02:51.03 He needed the love of God in his soul. 00:02:51.04\00:02:53.94 And he hadn't understood that. 00:02:53.97\00:02:56.21 And when Jesus explained it to him he walked away. 00:02:56.25\00:03:00.68 How would you explain to someone how they can experience or know 00:03:00.72\00:03:08.68 what the love of God is like? 00:03:08.71\00:03:10.30 Well we read in first Corinthians 13 what the love of 00:03:10.34\00:03:14.44 God is like. 00:03:14.47\00:03:15.51 First Corinthians 13: 4-7: 'Love is patient and kind' 00:03:15.55\00:03:24.01 Amen. 00:03:24.04\00:03:25.01 Even when your children are disobedient. 00:03:25.02\00:03:27.76 Amen. 00:03:27.79\00:03:28.79 Love is still patient and kind. One father told me 'Well how can 00:03:28.83\00:03:33.69 I be patient and kind?' 00:03:33.72\00:03:37.21 Well then you don't know Christ. 00:03:37.25\00:03:39.77 Because if you know Christ, God's love is controlling you. 00:03:39.81\00:03:44.75 And you can be patient and kind. 00:03:44.78\00:03:47.50 That's what I've discovered. 00:03:47.53\00:03:50.18 But I didn't know this either, my father didn't know this. 00:03:50.22\00:03:54.73 We were eleven children, we were brought up in the church. 00:03:54.76\00:03:59.24 And we were all taught obedience. 00:03:59.27\00:04:03.96 The obedience of the law. 00:04:03.99\00:04:06.75 And some of us had a hard time, some had an easy time. 00:04:06.79\00:04:11.85 I liked obedience so I didn't have a hard time. 00:04:11.88\00:04:16.92 And my father was so strong with us children. 00:04:16.95\00:04:21.92 If we disobeyed, he would get angry he would be impatient he 00:04:21.96\00:04:26.82 would be irritated and we would be blamed for his sin. 00:04:26.85\00:04:32.07 And you know that's what people do. 00:04:32.10\00:04:35.61 When parents get angry with their children they blame the 00:04:35.65\00:04:38.99 children. 00:04:39.02\00:04:39.99 Right. 00:04:40.01\00:04:40.98 And the poor children carry their own guilt of disobedience 00:04:40.99\00:04:46.13 and the father's guilt. 00:04:46.16\00:04:48.18 How sad. 00:04:48.21\00:04:49.76 How very sad. 00:04:49.80\00:04:51.57 And when we think the Bible tells us that God is love and 00:04:51.61\00:04:56.02 He tells us in Jeremiah 31 verse 'I have loved you with an 00:04:56.06\00:05:00.44 everlasting love and therefore I've drawn you with 00:05:00.47\00:05:03.89 loving-kindness. ' 00:05:03.92\00:05:05.41 So it is the example of loving kindness that God sets for us 00:05:05.45\00:05:11.05 But it's God shedding his love abroad in our hearts 00:05:11.08\00:05:15.10 that helps us to love others and show that experience. 00:05:15.13\00:05:18.67 - Right! 00:05:18.71\00:05:19.68 But if children grow up in a home where the father is not 00:05:19.69\00:05:23.63 doing that they don't understand and so they only understand 00:05:23.66\00:05:27.72 the obedience of law not the obedience of faith. 00:05:27.75\00:05:31.76 And the obedience of faith is when I surrender my total being 00:05:31.80\00:05:36.63 to God and let Him control my spirit. 00:05:36.66\00:05:40.64 Amen. 00:05:40.67\00:05:41.73 And flow His love into my heart. 00:05:41.77\00:05:44.49 Amen. 00:05:44.53\00:05:45.82 Like it says in Romans. 00:05:45.85\00:05:47.10 But you see, we didn't understand that and so we grew 00:05:47.13\00:05:51.60 up and we were married and we were in the church, we were 00:05:51.64\00:05:56.69 working in the church, my husband is a minister. 00:05:56.72\00:05:59.41 And we had our little problems, they weren't big like my 00:05:59.45\00:06:08.24 father's. 00:06:08.27\00:06:09.24 But I had resentment towards my husband because he was selfish 00:06:09.25\00:06:13.65 with our son. 00:06:13.69\00:06:14.81 Umhum! 00:06:15.07\00:06:16.04 So I didn't realize I was sinning. 00:06:16.05\00:06:21.03 I thought it was just his selfishness and I blamed him. 00:06:21.07\00:06:24.95 And you know it is so easy to blame our heart's sins on 00:06:24.98\00:06:30.59 someone else. 00:06:30.62\00:06:31.59 Amen. 00:06:31.60\00:06:32.57 And I will be talking about heart sins as we go along. 00:06:32.58\00:06:36.60 But here it says in first Corinthians 13, 1 through 3: 00:06:36.63\00:06:41.23 'Even if I speak in the tongues of men and of the angels but 00:06:41.27\00:06:45.45 have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 00:06:45.48\00:06:50.50 And even if I have all faith to remove mountains and to give 00:06:50.54\00:06:56.20 my body to be burnt but have not love I gain nothing. ' 00:06:56.23\00:07:00.35 That's true. 00:07:00.38\00:07:02.15 I didn't understand those things. 00:07:02.19\00:07:04.93 I was not a real student of the Bible. 00:07:04.97\00:07:08.94 I loved obedience and so I was obedient. 00:07:08.97\00:07:14.66 So am I understanding you to say that you had had knowledge. 00:07:14.70\00:07:20.61 Yes. 00:07:20.64\00:07:21.61 You understood what you'd been brought up in church what you 00:07:21.62\00:07:24.79 had heard in church so you looked at it as a bunch of rules 00:07:24.83\00:07:28.21 what to do and what not to do to be 'a Christian'. 00:07:28.24\00:07:32.19 Umhum! 00:07:32.23\00:07:33.20 But it was more of a religious culturethat you were living in 00:07:33.21\00:07:35.28 rather than having a one on one personal intimate relationship 00:07:35.54\00:07:39.74 with the Lord. 00:07:39.77\00:07:40.74 And then we were missionaries for ten years and then I came 00:07:40.75\00:07:47.38 home from the mission field, I visited my parents, my father 00:07:47.42\00:07:53.56 was seventy-eight at the time, he had a heart problem, he knew 00:07:53.59\00:07:59.70 he could drop dead any minute. 00:07:59.73\00:08:01.72 And here he was, he still had an eighteen year old boy at home 00:08:01.75\00:08:05.89 who was giving him more trouble than all the other ten children 00:08:05.92\00:08:10.03 put together. 00:08:10.06\00:08:11.11 And he realized something is wrong. 00:08:11.15\00:08:14.21 He knew only the over comer would be in heaven and he was 00:08:14.25\00:08:19.63 not over coming. 00:08:20.18\00:08:21.24 And he was running scared. 00:08:21.27\00:08:23.62 Your father. 00:08:23.65\00:08:24.73 My father, and he came to me and he said 'Margaret have I missed 00:08:24.77\00:08:30.34 something?' 00:08:30.37\00:08:31.34 'What do I need?' 00:08:31.35\00:08:34.40 Have I been deceived by my own spiritual conditions? 00:08:34.44\00:08:39.00 - Yes! 00:08:39.03\00:08:40.00 It was what he was asking. 00:08:40.01\00:08:40.98 ' Margaret help me!' 00:08:40.99\00:08:42.72 Were you able to help him then? 00:08:42.75\00:08:44.69 No. 00:08:44.72\00:08:45.70 I could have told him 'Try a little harder father. ' 00:08:45.74\00:08:49.77 Because that's what we've been doing. 00:08:49.80\00:08:51.79 We were ignorant of the righteousness that comes from 00:08:51.83\00:08:55.17 God, seeking to establish our own righteousness, we did not 00:08:55.21\00:08:59.77 know how to submit to God's righteousness. 00:08:59.80\00:09:03.56 And I had no answers. 00:09:03.59\00:09:07.53 But I went home determined I would find the answers 00:09:09.12\00:09:14.35 for my father. 00:09:14.39\00:09:15.68 And I started to study and at first it was hard, I was a 00:09:15.71\00:09:21.72 surface reader, I had read my Bible many times. 00:09:21.75\00:09:24.75 But I had not stopped to study it. 00:09:24.78\00:09:27.78 Yes. 00:09:27.82\00:09:28.79 There's a big difference. 00:09:28.80\00:09:29.77 To meditate on it. 00:09:29.78\00:09:30.78 What does it mean? 00:09:30.82\00:09:31.79 Yes. 00:09:31.80\00:09:32.77 How can I apply it in my life? 00:09:32.78\00:09:33.81 Right. 00:09:33.85\00:09:34.82 And now I had to find answers but gradually as I kept 00:09:34.83\00:09:41.20 searching, gradually I began to understand and gradually 00:09:41.23\00:09:47.94 the Bible just became a living book to me. 00:09:47.97\00:09:53.11 Amen. 00:09:53.15\00:09:54.17 Living water and living bread. 00:09:54.21\00:09:55.79 Amen. 00:09:55.83\00:09:56.94 And then I couldn't leave it alone, I want to spend all my 00:09:56.98\00:10:01.11 time studying. 00:10:01.14\00:10:03.19 And I found the answers and then I prayed 'Now Lord send me back 00:10:03.23\00:10:07.80 to my father. ' 00:10:07.83\00:10:08.80 And I just want to share some of the examples today, 00:10:08.83\00:10:15.09 I will go into the answers later, share some of the 00:10:15.13\00:10:21.36 examples today of how Jesus helped me to understand my lost 00:10:21.40\00:10:29.49 condition. 00:10:29.52\00:10:30.49 Let me ask you first, 00:10:30.50\00:10:33.39 your father was deceived about his condition. 00:10:33.43\00:10:37.59 He thought by being so strict and such a strict disciplinarian 00:10:37.62\00:10:40.90 and having a bunch of rules, he didn't realize you can't have 00:10:40.94\00:10:44.28 rules without relationship and be saved. 00:10:44.31\00:10:48.22 Were other people in the Bible that were like your father? 00:10:48.25\00:10:51.51 Were there people in the Bible' examples? 00:10:51.54\00:10:53.00 Yeah. Look at Nicodemus. 00:10:53.03\00:10:54.00 All right. 00:10:54.03\00:10:55.00 Ok. 00:10:55.01\00:10:55.98 Nicodemus was coming to find out if Jesus was the messiah. 00:10:56.00\00:11:00.69 Right. 00:11:00.72\00:11:01.99 Jesus looked into his heart and said 'Nicodemus you have a 00:11:02.03\00:11:04.98 problem. 00:11:05.01\00:11:05.98 You must be born again. 00:11:05.99\00:11:07.90 Nicodemus was startled at the thought of a kingdom too pure 00:11:07.93\00:11:13.66 for him to see in his present state. 00:11:13.69\00:11:16.43 And Jesus said ' Are you a ruler in Israel and you don't 00:11:16.47\00:11:21.08 understand this?' 00:11:21.11\00:11:22.09 Yes. 00:11:22.13\00:11:23.36 My husband was a minister, he hadn't understood it either. 00:11:23.40\00:11:26.60 And that's why he couldn't share it with me. 00:11:26.63\00:11:29.55 And so Jesus explained to Nicodemus, 'You must be born of 00:11:29.59\00:11:35.70 water and of the spirit. ' 00:11:35.73\00:11:38.15 And there are many, many of us who don't understand, you must 00:11:38.19\00:11:43.89 be born again. 00:11:43.92\00:11:44.89 How do you experience that new birth? 00:11:44.92\00:11:47.36 In order to be born again you must first yield yourself 00:11:47.40\00:11:52.74 completely to Christ. 00:11:52.77\00:11:54.50 Because how can God create a new heart and a new mind if you 00:11:54.54\00:11:59.78 don't yield the old one? 00:11:59.81\00:12:01.27 Amen. 00:12:01.30\00:12:02.27 And that's hard for people. 00:12:02.28\00:12:05.32 Yes it is. 00:12:05.35\00:12:06.32 To give up all for God and let Him work in us, His love, his 00:12:06.34\00:12:15.22 way. 00:12:15.26\00:12:16.23 Because by nature the heart is evil, we are told in the Bible. 00:12:16.24\00:12:21.67 We must be born again. 00:12:21.70\00:12:24.11 It's hard for some of us, we don't realize that, I remember 00:12:24.15\00:12:29.25 when I had returned to college at the age of thirty, how I 00:12:29.29\00:12:33.93 thought I was reading where Jesus said: 'Why do you call me 00:12:33.96\00:12:38.57 good? No one is good except God. ' 00:12:38.60\00:12:40.45 And I thought ' Wait a minute, you are God, 00:12:40.49\00:12:42.53 why would you say that?' 00:12:42.57\00:12:43.66 He was testing the heart to see if this man was merely 00:12:43.70\00:12:47.03 buttering him up if you will, or if he really saw him 00:12:47.07\00:12:50.37 as the messiah. 00:12:50.72\00:12:51.69 Now the Lord did show me that night, I prayed and said 'Father 00:12:51.70\00:12:54.63 You've got to show me, everyone's always told me what 00:12:54.66\00:12:57.74 a good person I am and if I'm not good show me. 00:12:57.77\00:13:00.85 And you know something? 00:13:00.88\00:13:01.85 For eight hours, from ten o'clock at night till six 00:13:01.86\00:13:06.09 in the morning, God gave me a review of my life. 00:13:06.13\00:13:10.37 It was amazing and He showed me the wrong motivations, 00:13:10.41\00:13:15.34 the selfish motivations, just seeking approval from men 00:13:15.38\00:13:19.58 if you will and in many instances trying to look good. 00:13:19.61\00:13:24.47 We don't see ourselves as not being 'good' but there is no 00:13:24.50\00:13:29.33 goodness except from God. 00:13:29.36\00:13:30.99 Right. 00:13:31.02\00:13:32.26 But aren't we... the part of this 00:13:32.30\00:13:35.54 surrender that you're talking 00:13:35.57\00:13:36.54 about, this yielding, when we go to the Lord, it's not just 00:13:36.55\00:13:41.26 saying, just simply saying 'Lord help me' but I need to be 00:13:41.29\00:13:46.10 filled with Your power. 00:13:46.13\00:13:49.64 Yes we need to be born again. 00:13:49.68\00:13:50.94 To be born again and to be filled with the Holy Spirit. 00:13:50.98\00:13:54.37 That's right, the Bible puts it this way in Ephesians 4:22 00:13:54.40\00:13:58.59 ' Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner 00:13:58.63\00:14:03.15 of life and is corrupt through deceitful lust and be renewed 00:14:03.19\00:14:08.41 in the spirit of your mind and put on the new nature created 00:14:08.44\00:14:13.50 after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. 00:14:13.54\00:14:18.44 Amen. 00:14:18.48\00:14:19.86 And so it is a new creation, it is supernatural. 00:14:19.89\00:14:25.83 You cannot do it by yourself. 00:14:25.86\00:14:29.48 But you can come to God with all that you have, surrender 00:14:29.51\00:14:33.43 it all and we will talk about that as we go through the steps. 00:14:33.47\00:14:37.47 But I want to share another example Jesus gave of people 00:14:37.50\00:14:44.54 thinking they were ready and they were not. 00:14:44.57\00:14:47.68 Right. 00:14:47.72\00:14:48.92 Think of the foolish virgins. 00:14:48.95\00:14:51.08 Matthew 25. 00:14:51.11\00:14:53.99 I never understood the foolish virgins, I never understood 00:14:54.03\00:14:59.75 about the Holy Spirit. 00:14:59.78\00:15:01.26 And, you know, so they didn't have oil, they didn't have 00:15:01.30\00:15:06.59 enough oil, but what does it really mean? 00:15:06.62\00:15:09.39 Let's for our viewers who may not be familiar with that story 00:15:09.43\00:15:12.74 just kind of recap that story. 00:15:12.77\00:15:15.37 It says: 'Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto 00:15:17.57\00:15:22.34 ten virgins which took their lamps and went forth to meet the 00:15:22.37\00:15:25.79 bridegroom. 00:15:25.82\00:15:26.79 Five were wise, and five were foolish. 00:15:26.80\00:15:30.31 They that were foolish took their lamps, 00:15:30.35\00:15:33.33 and took no oil with them. 00:15:33.36\00:15:35.95 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. ' 00:15:35.99\00:15:42.14 Umhum! 00:15:42.17\00:15:43.14 This is the area that helped me to understand. 00:15:43.15\00:15:46.59 You see, the lamp is the word of God. 00:15:46.62\00:15:51.21 My word is a lamp unto your feet, 00:15:51.25\00:15:53.22 and a light unto your path. 00:15:53.25\00:15:54.39 That's right. 00:15:54.43\00:15:55.40 And they were inviting the Holy Spirit to help them understand 00:15:55.41\00:15:58.38 the word of God. 00:15:58.41\00:15:59.87 We always did that. 00:15:59.90\00:16:00.90 Yes. 00:16:00.93\00:16:01.93 Ok, but they were also to take oil in their little vessels. 00:16:01.97\00:16:07.34 Right. 00:16:07.37\00:16:08.62 In the Bible what does the vessel represent? 00:16:08.65\00:16:11.77 The vessel is us. 00:16:11.80\00:16:13.13 That's right. 00:16:13.16\00:16:14.42 It's us and the five foolish virgins had neglected to invite 00:16:14.46\00:16:20.84 the Holy Spirit into their life. 00:16:20.87\00:16:23.03 So the oil is the symbol of the Holy Spirit and the five wise 00:16:23.07\00:16:28.13 virgins invited, they went out with their lamp and with the 00:16:28.16\00:16:33.12 extra oil in their vessels so it was asking the Holy Spirit 00:16:33.15\00:16:38.08 'Come into my life, let me be led by Your spirit Father. 00:16:38.11\00:16:41.27 God fill me with Your spirit continually. ' 00:16:41.30\00:16:43.60 Yes. 00:16:43.63\00:16:44.60 But those five foolish virgins who thought they were, I'm sure 00:16:44.61\00:16:50.27 they thought that they were like your father, like your husband 00:16:50.30\00:16:55.99 they thought they were ready, but they went out, they had 00:16:56.02\00:16:59.65 a lamp with them but they had no oil in their lamps. 00:16:59.68\00:17:02.37 So it was a head knowledge, we would compare that to a head 00:17:02.41\00:17:05.04 knowledge of the scripture but not relying on the power of the 00:17:05.07\00:17:08.31 Holy Spirit. 00:17:08.34\00:17:09.31 That's right. 00:17:09.32\00:17:10.29 And so I learnt this lesson from this parable. 00:17:10.30\00:17:15.64 And what a difference it made in my life, finally understanding 00:17:16.65\00:17:21.95 what I needed. 00:17:21.98\00:17:23.48 Praise God. 00:17:23.51\00:17:24.94 And then there was another person that Jesus talked about. 00:17:24.98\00:17:28.27 The man who came to the wedding feast without the wedding 00:17:28.31\00:17:31.57 garment. 00:17:31.60\00:17:32.57 Umhum! 00:17:32.58\00:17:33.55 So now explain that. 00:17:33.56\00:17:35.88 And he was left out. 00:17:35.91\00:17:37.59 He couldn't enter and the wedding garment we read in 00:17:37.63\00:17:44.47 Revelations 19: 7, 8: " Let us be glad and rejoice and give 00:17:44.51\00:17:50.32 honor to Him for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His wife 00:17:50.35\00:17:56.13 has made herself ready. ' 00:17:56.16\00:17:58.39 'And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine 00:17:58.43\00:18:04.23 linen, clean and white for the fine linen is the righteousness 00:18:04.27\00:18:10.04 of saints. ' 00:18:10.07\00:18:11.23 The fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 00:18:12.34\00:18:16.50 Amen. 00:18:16.53\00:18:17.65 When we surrender ourselves to Christ, He works in us His 00:18:17.69\00:18:22.74 character. 00:18:22.77\00:18:23.85 And that is the fine linen that He wants the church to have. 00:18:23.89\00:18:30.63 Because we also read in Ephesians 5:25: ' And to her was 00:18:30.66\00:18:37.37 granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen' 00:18:37.40\00:18:42.28 Amen. 00:18:42.31\00:18:43.28 No, I've already read that. 00:18:44.73\00:18:46.36 'Christ loved the church and gave Himself for the church 00:18:46.39\00:18:52.80 that He might sanctify and cleanse it. 00:18:52.83\00:18:56.72 That He might present it to Himself a glorious church, 00:18:56.76\00:19:01.85 not having spot or wrinkle' or any such thing. 00:19:01.88\00:19:06.42 But now let's stop here for just a second Margaret because 00:19:06.46\00:19:10.06 I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression. 00:19:10.09\00:19:12.49 What you are saying here when you're talking about the robe 00:19:12.53\00:19:17.57 of righteousness, whose righteousness is this? 00:19:17.60\00:19:19.78 It's Christ. 00:19:19.81\00:19:21.35 It's Christ making up for all your past sins and then Christ 00:19:21.39\00:19:27.49 working in you his character. 00:19:27.52\00:19:30.16 It's all of Christ. 00:19:30.19\00:19:31.92 It's all of Christ and that's the point that we want to make 00:19:31.96\00:19:35.78 sure that we get across is that righteousness by faith is the 00:19:35.81\00:19:39.60 only kind of righteousness. 00:19:39.63\00:19:41.36 I knew Christ could forgive my sins. 00:19:41.40\00:19:43.21 I knew that. 00:19:43.86\00:19:44.83 And if I did a little sin I would immediately make it right. 00:19:44.84\00:19:49.37 But my heart sins I blamed on others. 00:19:49.40\00:19:55.40 If I got irritated, impatient, I excused them. 00:19:55.44\00:20:01.15 This is where the problem lies. 00:20:01.18\00:20:02.95 Yes. 00:20:02.99\00:20:03.96 I didn't have Christ's righteousness in me. 00:20:03.97\00:20:07.01 So you were accepting the fact that you had been justified 00:20:07.05\00:20:11.47 that your sins had been covered but you weren't letting Him do 00:20:11.50\00:20:15.67 that sanctifying work in you where He set you apart from evil 00:20:15.71\00:20:19.85 day by day. 00:20:19.88\00:20:20.85 Yeah, from the heart sins. 00:20:20.86\00:20:23.04 I never went out in the world but here, you see? 00:20:23.66\00:20:28.97 And that's the problem of the lukewarm. 00:20:29.00\00:20:32.04 I mean you think of the lukewarm. 00:20:32.52\00:20:34.47 Jesus says in Revelations: ' I would that you were hot or cold 00:20:34.51\00:20:39.51 but because you are lukewarm I must spew you out of my mouth. ' 00:20:39.55\00:20:44.52 Same problem. 00:20:44.55\00:20:46.18 they didn't understand how to open their hearts to receive 00:20:46.22\00:20:50.12 Christ. 00:20:50.15\00:20:51.12 I know you brought a diagram today to talk about that, 00:20:51.13\00:20:56.50 explain to us from Revelations 3:16 where He is talking about 00:20:56.54\00:21:02.45 the hot and the cold and the lukewarm. 00:21:02.48\00:21:05.59 What is that cold condition all about? 00:21:05.63\00:21:08.71 Well the cold know they are lost. 00:21:08.74\00:21:12.18 All of self is on the throne. 00:21:12.21\00:21:15.20 The hot know they have found a living connection, they have 00:21:15.24\00:21:20.06 come to the foot of the cross, they have given their lives to 00:21:20.09\00:21:24.88 Christ. 00:21:24.91\00:21:25.88 And they allow Christ to live in them, they are connected with 00:21:25.89\00:21:30.89 the vine, the branch and Jesus is able to work in them the 00:21:30.93\00:21:36.14 fruit of the spirit. 00:21:36.17\00:21:37.49 That's the hot. 00:21:37.52\00:21:39.52 The lukewarm think they are rich and increased with goods 00:21:39.56\00:21:44.86 and have need of nothing. 00:21:44.89\00:21:46.94 I didn't know I was lukewarm. 00:21:46.97\00:21:49.19 I was a hard worker for God. 00:21:49.23\00:21:51.42 And when my father cried for help and I went to study I 00:21:52.33\00:21:56.06 recognized I didn't have the inner experience. 00:21:56.09\00:22:00.82 And that's what this is all about. 00:22:00.85\00:22:03.50 How do we get the oil in our lives like the virgins, how do 00:22:03.54\00:22:08.57 we become hot Christians where we're really ready to say 00:22:08.60\00:22:13.60 'It's all You Lord, it's not about me it's about You. ' 00:22:13.63\00:22:18.89 As we get to know God and we have to get to know Him, we 00:22:18.92\00:22:24.11 cannot give our lives to Him fully, openly until we know Him. 00:22:24.15\00:22:29.94 Amen. 00:22:29.97\00:22:30.94 And so as I got to know God personally, I could open my 00:22:30.95\00:22:37.17 heart to Him and I could say 'Lord here I am. ' 00:22:37.20\00:22:39.70 Tell me about this trip, this journey as you were coming from 00:22:40.77\00:22:45.06 this place where so many people are and so many denominations 00:22:45.09\00:22:49.83 where they may know the word but they don't know the love of God. 00:22:49.87\00:22:54.58 What was the most surprising thing to you, as you got into 00:22:54.61\00:22:57.77 the word, not just to read it, but to study it, 00:22:57.80\00:23:00.35 to meditate on it? 00:23:00.38\00:23:01.35 What surprised you most about the Lord? 00:23:01.38\00:23:03.59 That He loved me. 00:23:05.03\00:23:06.17 Now I had love for my parents because I was so obedient. 00:23:07.20\00:23:12.78 So I did not fear God ever that way. 00:23:12.81\00:23:18.88 But the understanding of what He needed to do, to work in my 00:23:18.91\00:23:25.44 heart, how I needed to open myself to Him. 00:23:25.47\00:23:29.75 The understanding of the Holy Spirit, I didn't know anything 00:23:29.79\00:23:33.31 about the Holy Spirit, I didn't know 00:23:33.35\00:23:36.09 the work of the Holy Spirit. 00:23:36.13\00:23:37.46 So you didn't know He was to be your helper? 00:23:37.49\00:23:39.61 Well yes, but no. 00:23:39.64\00:23:42.44 You see. 00:23:42.47\00:23:43.44 You knew the scripture, you just didn't experience it. 00:23:43.45\00:23:45.65 That's right. 00:23:45.69\00:23:47.03 There's a vast difference between knowing theology and 00:23:47.07\00:23:51.48 knowing a living connection with the vine, Jesus Christ. 00:23:51.51\00:23:56.26 So that He through the Holy Spirit representing the sap 00:23:56.29\00:24:01.07 comes into the little branch and works the fruit of the 00:24:01.11\00:24:05.86 spirit in the life. 00:24:05.89\00:24:06.86 Amen. 00:24:06.88\00:24:07.85 That I didn't understand and so this is why I want to share 00:24:07.86\00:24:11.42 all the steps of how to come to that place. 00:24:11.45\00:24:14.19 In our next Issues program. 00:24:15.56\00:24:17.36 Wonderful. 00:24:17.40\00:24:18.99 Let me ask you as you were studying this and it's 00:24:19.03\00:24:22.61 interesting that the Lord used your father, your seventy-eight 00:24:22.65\00:24:25.26 years old father to be, and how old were you at the time? 00:24:25.29\00:24:28.32 Forty-two. 00:24:28.35\00:24:30.78 You were forty-two years old, been in the church all your life 00:24:30.82\00:24:34.87 married to a minister, and now you began searching to answer 00:24:34.91\00:24:38.93 the questions for your father. 00:24:38.96\00:24:40.42 God really, I mean you opened your heart to the Lord and you 00:24:40.46\00:24:45.37 began to experience that true conversion, being the new birth. 00:24:45.41\00:24:50.29 what did your husband think of all of this? 00:24:50.32\00:24:53.89 He's a pastor. 00:24:53.92\00:24:54.89 Right. 00:24:54.90\00:24:55.97 And I came to him from time to time and I would say 'Tom have 00:24:56.00\00:25:00.88 you ever understood this?' 00:25:00.91\00:25:02.39 Because he hadn't shared it with me and so I wondered. 00:25:02.43\00:25:06.21 Did he understand? 00:25:06.24\00:25:07.96 And at first he was 'I'm the minister. ' 00:25:08.00\00:25:12.62 I'm the author, I'm the minister. 00:25:12.65\00:25:14.58 Right. 00:25:14.61\00:25:15.58 But after a while he began to realize 'she's finding something 00:25:15.59\00:25:21.85 real. ' 00:25:21.88\00:25:22.85 And so then he too started studying for life, for his soul. 00:25:24.57\00:25:28.12 That pearl of great value that you are ready to sell everything 00:25:28.15\00:25:31.67 just to attain this. 00:25:31.70\00:25:33.04 Right. 00:25:33.08\00:25:34.05 Amen. 00:25:34.06\00:25:35.03 Now what about your father? 00:25:35.04\00:25:36.23 Well after I discovered how to put it all together then I 00:25:36.27\00:25:42.58 prayed 'Now Lord send me back to my father. ' 00:25:42.61\00:25:44.86 And we don't have time to go into all the ways the Lord 00:25:44.90\00:25:49.91 worked, it was a miraculous way that he worked. 00:25:49.94\00:25:53.02 And the Lord sent me back and I shared and my father during 00:25:53.06\00:26:02.32 the four years when I was studying 00:26:02.35\00:26:04.35 he too was deeply searching. 00:26:04.38\00:26:06.27 And so when I shared with him what I had found he caught on 00:26:06.31\00:26:10.50 very quickly. 00:26:10.53\00:26:11.52 Praise the Lord. 00:26:11.56\00:26:12.53 Yeah and the Lord had kept him alive during those four years. 00:26:12.54\00:26:15.34 So he experienced the new birth? 00:26:15.37\00:26:17.41 Yeah, he found a new way to be saved. 00:26:17.44\00:26:20.36 And did that heart change come as the Lord poured the Holy 00:26:20.40\00:26:25.66 Spirit into him, in his love? 00:26:25.69\00:26:27.90 You finally had the father that God intended him to be. 00:26:27.93\00:26:31.45 Right. 00:26:31.49\00:26:32.46 Praise the Lord. 00:26:32.47\00:26:33.44 But three weeks later he died. 00:26:33.45\00:26:35.03 Oh. 00:26:35.06\00:26:36.08 Yeah. 00:26:36.11\00:26:37.08 Isn't God so gracious? 00:26:37.09\00:26:38.54 God is good. 00:26:38.57\00:26:39.70 God wants us to be saved. 00:26:39.73\00:26:41.03 Absolutely. 00:26:41.06\00:26:42.45 He doesn't want us to be lost. 00:26:42.49\00:26:43.62 And he tries in every way to get our attention. 00:26:43.66\00:26:47.00 Praise the Lord. 00:26:47.03\00:26:48.12 So you know that you'll have eternity to 00:26:48.16\00:26:51.54 spend with your father. 00:26:51.57\00:26:52.77 I cannot say if my father will be in eternity because, you know 00:26:52.81\00:26:57.70 we don't know. 00:26:57.74\00:26:58.71 I just know what God did to open up the door for all of our 00:26:58.72\00:27:03.80 family to understand the way of salvation. 00:27:03.83\00:27:06.92 Praise the Lord. 00:27:06.96\00:27:07.93 Well Margaret it has been such a joy having you here today. 00:27:08.59\00:27:12.18 I want to thank you so much and I am thankful that you're 00:27:12.22\00:27:15.68 going to be coming back to do another 'Issues and Answers', 00:27:15.72\00:27:19.20 actually a couple more, so I just praise the Lord for the way 00:27:19.24\00:27:22.52 He's leading you and there's a lot I want to get to know about 00:27:22.56\00:27:25.81 you and share it with our viewers. 00:27:25.84\00:27:28.02 But now I just want to encourage you, the Bible says in Luke 11 00:27:28.06\00:27:33.31 verses 9-13, Jesus said this. 00:27:33.34\00:27:35.43 He said 'Ask and keep on asking, seek and keep on seeking, knock 00:27:35.47\00:27:39.54 and keep on knocking. And it shall be given to you. ' 00:27:39.57\00:27:42.64 He said ' How much more will the Heavenly Father give the 00:27:42.68\00:27:45.58 Holy Spirit to those who ask and keep on asking. ' 00:27:45.61\00:27:49.26 God loves you and we're thankful that you joined us today. 00:27:49.30\00:27:53.45 Hope you were encouraged. 00:27:53.48\00:27:55.42 Good bye. 00:27:55.45\00:27:56.68