Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Nancy Van Pelt
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000209
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00:30 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn and welcome
00:32 to another Issues And Answers. 00:34 You know we have been having a wonderful 00:36 series with Nancy Van Pelt, who is a 00:38 certified family life educator and she is 00:41 the author of 28 books. We've been having a 00:44 great time talking about smart love for 00:46 singles but today we're gonna be talking 00:49 about marriage, taking that final step 00:51 and also how we can meet the emotional 00:54 needs of our spouse in marriage. 00:57 I wanted to share a scripture with you 00:59 and it comes from Ephesians chapter 5, 01:01 very, familiar but we're gonna look at it 01:03 with a different twist today. The Bible 01:06 says in beginning in Ephesians 5 01:08 and verse 21, it first starts off saying 01:11 be subject or submissive to one 01:14 and another out of reverence for Christ. 01:17 Wives be subject to your own husbands 01:20 as to the Lord, for the husband is head 01:22 of the wife as Christ is head of the Church. 01:27 And as the Church is subject to Christ so 01:29 let wives also be subject to everything 01:32 to their husbands. Husbands love your 01:35 wives as Christ loved the Church 01:38 and gave himself up for her. 01:40 You know what? Being subject to someone 01:42 doesn't mean that you become a doormat, 01:44 being a subject to someone means that 01:47 when the Bible says when God's counsel 01:49 is to be subject to your husband. 01:51 It means to support his vision, to support 01:53 his plan, to be the helpmate that 01:55 God intended you to do and it is really 01:57 easy to be subject to someone who is a 02:01 husband who loves you as Christ loved 02:03 the Church, because that means he is 02:05 going to be very supportive of you 02:07 in what everything that's best for you. 02:10 Isn't that right? Nancy Van 02:11 Pelt. That's right. Oh! Welcome so much, 02:14 we've had such a wonderful time filming 02:17 this series with you and today we're going 02:19 to get into marriage and we're gonna be 02:22 talking about how to meet the emotional 02:25 needs in marriage. It's very different 02:28 what a woman and a man need out of 02:30 marriage, let's talk about that. 02:32 It is different and that we have to 02:34 recognize that there are differences 02:36 or we can't meet those needs, 02:38 because if a wife thinks that her husband 02:40 has the same emotional needs, then she 02:42 will be giving to him what it is she wants 02:46 and because the needs are so different 02:48 that simply will not do. And even though 02:51 it's not, you can't cookie cut her and say, 02:53 all women are going to be this way or all 02:55 men are going to be this way. Women do 02:57 have some very specific needs for the 03:01 most part and what do you think is the 03:03 first thing that a woman is looking for 03:05 out of marriage. The, one of the main 03:07 things that a woman wants is to be loved 03:10 and adored and cherished and this is 03:14 true Shelley, you've mentioned that 03:16 I've been to 55 countries around the 03:19 world and it doesn't matter what culture 03:22 I go into, even in India where the women 03:25 will sit on one side and the men will sit 03:27 on the other and I can't tell if anybody 03:30 is married to anybody there, the women 03:32 still want to be loved by their husbands. 03:36 And that's arranged marriage 03:38 but what do they want, they want to feel 03:41 that enduring love over the years. 03:43 A woman has that need to feel cherished 03:46 by her husband as much after they 03:49 have been married 33 years as they did, 03:52 she did on her first day of marriage. 03:55 And any man who can understand that 03:57 need in a woman and supply those needs 04:01 day by day is going to have a wife who 04:04 will adore him. Okay, now if I am a man 04:11 that is sitting in the audience right now 04:13 and I'm saying okay she wants to feel loved. 04:16 How do I do that? I am clueless. That's right 04:19 and you're right, many men are clueless, 04:21 in fact it's Dr. Phil, who says that men have 04:24 to have bread crumbs dropped before them 04:27 and you better drop those bread crumbs 04:29 really close, he says. To make a path to 04:32 the way they should follow, right. 04:35 But how does a man let his wife know it can 04:38 be done through words but also through 04:41 caring acts. One of the things that Harry 04:44 does for me for example is put gas in my car. 04:47 Now that does not sound like a very big deal 04:50 but in America where we have mostly, 04:54 most families have two cars. 04:55 The fact that he will think about my needs, 04:59 try to make me happy, watch over my car 05:02 so that I don't have to do that. 05:04 I hate putting gas, I wreck my nails, 05:06 I, you know and I, the machine will 05:09 eat my credit card, I don't get it back 05:11 and all this is just a, one of these little 05:14 time waste of things. And this says 05:17 a lot to me, little caring things 05:20 like that and the many other 05:22 things that he does. Let's we know on a 05:25 day to day basis that he does continue 05:28 to love me, he writes me notes. 05:30 You should see. Yes. The kind of attention 05:33 that I get after I've been gone on a trip, 05:36 when I come home, I know there's gonna be 05:39 a little card there for me, I know 05:42 that is gonna be message of love 05:44 he expresses that in many different ways 05:47 and this is what a woman wants. 05:49 You know there's so many ways 05:50 to show affection, for me I'm a very 05:53 practical person and if JD went out 05:55 and bought big bouquets of flowers 05:57 and paid a lot of money, I probably be 05:59 upset with him because I am, 06:02 you know I'm very fruga with our money 06:05 but he will bring me flowers from 06:07 the grocery store occasionally and that's 06:09 very precious, but what means 06:11 the most to me is especially like if he 06:13 is going on a trip and I'm staying behind 06:15 I will find little love notes that he's 06:17 tucked into my pillow or little love notes 06:21 here and there but it is some of the little 06:23 things that he does for me that mean 06:25 the very most to me. Yes, 06:26 and that's what I encourage men to keep 06:29 doing for their wives for a lifetime. 06:32 Amen. Now another thing that I think that 06:35 most woman seem to really have a need 06:37 of is emotional security. Yes, 06:40 now what does that mean? 06:42 It really means that she feels secure 06:45 in his affections that she is number one 06:49 in his life outside of God. 06:52 Most of the time or at least part of the time, 06:55 now most wives practically understand 06:58 that their husband's job is going to take 07:01 most of his time, but after that, 07:05 where does she fit in to all of this? 07:08 And so many men are coming home 07:11 and getting hooked into the computer 07:14 or maybe they're rebuilding a car in the 07:17 garage or they're so into sports 07:20 that they're not carving out time for 07:23 their wives and their families. 07:26 Well, an emotional security, 07:28 would you agree that sometimes what, 07:30 it can be emotional security is to feel 07:32 safe with someone, to have, 07:34 I think one problem that I hear most 07:37 frequently is that couples have a 07:39 hard time sometimes. Particularly 07:41 woman if she feels that her husband will not 07:44 listen to her and I heard the most. 07:47 I don't know did you hear this on TV 07:48 the other day, they said that they've done 07:51 scientific studies that prove that men when 07:56 they're listening passively only listen 07:59 with half their brain. And so a woman 08:02 though when she is listening passively 08:04 then she listens with both sides 08:06 of her brain, let me explain 08:09 what's passive listening? 08:10 Lets say that somebody is watching television. 08:12 Well, if someone Speaks to a woman 08:14 while she is watching television, 08:15 she still use both sides of her brain 08:17 but if someone speaks to a man 08:19 who is watching television, 08:21 he listens only with half of his brain. 08:23 So I always tell women what she need 08:25 to do is make sure if you're trying to talk 08:27 to your husband that honey, 08:28 could you turn the TV down for a moment, 08:30 because he isn't going to be listening 08:33 to you with both sides of his brain 08:35 till you get him actively involved. 08:38 But there are men who discount everything 08:41 that their wife says or they don't listen, 08:43 they don't respond, they don't acknowledge 08:46 and a women feels that what she says 08:47 to him is unimportant, 08:49 so her needs aren't being met. 08:50 Her needs are not being met, 08:53 actually they say that women are better 08:55 listeners than man and it has to do with a 08:57 very simple thing that women nod their 08:59 heads more when they're listening 09:01 and at least you know somebody is there. 09:02 And then they says aha more, 09:05 so I tell man at least nod your head and 09:07 says aha, but that's still only a form 09:12 of passive listening. And you don't 09:14 know that they're listening, what woman, 09:16 what women want in listening is to have 09:19 their feelings validated and this is 09:21 what men need to understand, 09:23 men can learn this, but it's a skill that 09:26 for them is a little more difficult. 09:29 Women already know how to validate feelings, 09:32 because they've been doing that 09:33 with their women friends for years 09:36 but men can learn it but they're gonna 09:38 have to work at it. Yeah. 09:40 And I think it's important that we 09:42 understand even as women that men 09:45 and women do communicate differently 09:48 and I tell people sometimes I know 09:51 my husband likes me to get to the bottom 09:53 line things. So I learned that, 09:55 it was very difficult the first year, 09:57 you know when I would try to explain 09:58 something to him, I'd loose him 10:00 half way through. So I learned to get 10:03 to the bottom and then if he wanted 10:04 more details I'd give them to him, 10:07 but now when I talk to a female friend 10:09 I'll tell her all the details because 10:11 that's the way we communicate. 10:12 So it's kind of two way street here 10:14 that woman need to appreciate the 10:16 difference in there and how men listen to. 10:18 They do and you know with this emotional 10:22 security business making a woman feel 10:25 that she is number one in his life, 10:29 part of this is having a man restrict 10:32 his visual interest a little bit is very 10:36 difficult for some men, when they're with 10:39 their wives to keep their eyes focused 10:42 on the wife. They have the 10:45 inclination to let their eyes track 10:49 a pretty woman as she is walking by and this 10:52 weakens his position in her eyes, 10:57 it makes her feel that maybe she is 10:59 not number one. Now, I'm not asking 11:02 men to put blinders on her or anything 11:05 like that but a wife should never be 11:07 aware of what it is he is seeing or it's only 11:11 going to weaken his position. 11:13 You know that's interesting because 11:14 I have heard so many women who have 11:16 said that they feel almost like they are 11:21 obscure or they, I mean they don't 11:23 even feel present sometime when 11:24 they're out in public with her husband 11:26 because he is watching all the other women 11:28 and it makes them feel very insecure. Yes 11:30 Now on the other hand if you feel 11:31 secure like there are times when I'm 11:33 out with JD if I see a really beautiful woman, 11:37 you know because he isn't one to 11:38 watch other woman I can sometimes give 11:40 him a little nudge and say honey, 11:42 look at how beautiful that woman is? 11:44 And I can do that because I do feel 11:46 secure with him. And that's a safe thing 11:48 to do because the wife has brought it up, 11:50 yeah, and so there is safety within that 11:53 but when he is the one doing 11:55 the tracking and she's not involved 11:58 that's a dangerous thing. 11:59 That's what weakens her emotional security, 12:02 but every woman wants to feel secure 12:05 in her husband's affection. 12:07 She needs to feel that if he were looking 12:09 over the whole world all over again 12:12 that he would still pick her and any man 12:15 that will give that sense of security 12:17 to his wife is going to have a happy wife. 12:20 That's true, some days because I travel 12:23 almost every weekend and work full time, 12:25 there are sometimes when I have a Sunday 12:27 off that I may get up and feel not like 12:32 washing my face, this isn't a good 12:33 thing to even admit on television but 12:35 you know you're running around in a sweat 12:37 suit or something and I'll say to JD, 12:39 honey, I'm sorry I didn't even wash 12:41 my face today and he'll say, 12:43 oh honey you always look beautiful to me. 12:45 And whether or not he really 12:48 believes that, I mean he makes me 12:50 believe that he feels that way and it's a 12:52 nice thing to feel that you can just be 12:55 yourself around someone that you 12:57 don't have to perform for them 12:59 and the part of that is a emotional 13:00 security isn't it? I think so, 13:03 one of the most poignant things that I 13:04 ever heard a woman say, was a woman 13:07 who had been through Chemotherapy. 13:09 And she had lost all of her hair 13:12 and she was feeling so unfeminine 13:14 and just at her lowest ebb and her 13:17 husband came to her one day and took 13:20 her face in his hands and he said honey, 13:23 you have never looked more beautiful to me 13:26 then you do right now. Can you imagine 13:29 what that he did for that woman and that's 13:32 the kind of security that we can expect 13:34 in marriage and should have, 13:36 we should have that feeling at all 13:39 time not insecure. You know, 13:41 that's more than just meeting your 13:43 emotional needs, that's really 13:45 a romantic gesture, it is and that's 13:48 bring as to one of the last needs, 13:50 emotional needs that a woman has, 13:53 is to feel that her husband loves her 13:57 enough to romance her a little bit. 14:00 Now what romance means to a woman 14:02 and what romance means to a man can 14:04 be different? Now most men have a little 14:07 bit of romance in them or they never 14:09 would have gotten married in the 14:10 first place, either that or she 14:12 was translating everything that he was 14:15 doing for into a romantic gesture 14:17 but what does romance mean to a women? 14:20 It's all the little things that he does 14:24 and I have in my book, Highly Effective 14:27 Marriage, 21 ways to 14:29 romance your wife, but, share a few. 14:32 Alright, one is to smile at her 14:36 over a meal, to give her a 14:38 compliment and I tell a man if you give 14:41 her a compliment at home I'll give you a 14:45 hundred points, but if you give her a 14:47 compliment in front of friends, 14:50 I will give you a thousand points, 14:52 if you send her flowers at home, 14:55 I'll give you a hundred points but 14:58 if you send her flowers to her place of work. 15:01 I will give you a thousand, 15:03 because then she gets to enjoy the 15:06 experience with all the women and 15:08 they'll say oh, what a 15:09 wonderful husband, I wish my husband 15:12 did that, can we clone him 15:14 and all kinds of things like that she gets 15:17 to relive and enjoy the experience 15:20 in front of others, 15:21 so it's these little things. 15:25 A dinner out with no children please, 15:29 no children, you cannot be 15:31 romantic with babies crawling all over 15:35 you or a preteen surprising you, no, 15:39 romance and children just do not mix, 15:42 so it has to be the two of you out together 15:46 for an evening away from home. 15:48 It is very difficult for a woman to be romantic 15:52 and at home, because you cannot 15:55 set the same environment, 15:56 because there is something at home 15:58 that is screaming at her, pick me up, 16:00 clean me or put me up away, yeah. 16:02 So you need to get her away from home 16:04 every once in a while, where she can 16:07 get back into a romantic mode again, 16:11 or flowers, and again I don't like the big 16:14 expensive things either, 16:15 but that bouquet from the grocery 16:18 store that I can put in a vase 16:20 and arrange myself, that my husband got 16:23 for me not a florist, my husband 16:26 selected this for me, some of these 16:29 things mean even more. And you know, 16:32 sometimes just a call in the middle of the 16:34 afternoon yes, or JD will e-mail 16:37 me every now and then, just for a little 16:39 I love you or gazing into your spouse's 16:42 eyes sometimes people forget after 16:44 they've been married a long time, 16:46 they forget what that's like to look over 16:48 the dinner table and really look longingly 16:51 and gazingly into each other eyes 16:52 and there is something very romantic 16:54 about that, there is a very romantic, 16:56 that's one of the assignments that I 16:57 give married couples to do after class 17:01 is there to sit for two minutes and look 17:04 into one and others eyes, 17:06 not saying anything. Couples who are 17:08 in love spend more time looking into 17:11 one and others eyes and what's happening 17:13 now in our busy, very busy 17:15 lifestyle we are seeing shadows moving 17:18 out to the side in our peripheral vision 17:21 because our eyes are more fixated on 17:23 television or computers or children 17:26 or whatever other thing is taking our time, 17:29 and couples need to look into one 17:31 and others eyes. But you know 17:33 Nancy I can just hear someone woman in 17:35 our listening audience who is at home 17:39 with three children all under the age of 6 17:43 and her husband is gonna come home 17:44 tonight and if he was to watch to this, 17:46 this program she would want us to say 17:50 to him that sometimes a romantic gesture 17:53 is helping with the dinner dishes, 17:55 maybe putting the babies to bed 17:57 and let her to go take a nice relaxing 17:59 bubble bath, he could draw her a bath, 18:01 let her just have a few minutes away 18:03 from the children, take over a 18:05 couple of her duties and that's a symbol 18:07 that is more romantic than all the flowers 18:10 that he could ever buy. Yes, 18:12 those are the, and look at, 18:14 some of these things are free, 18:16 a man does not have to spend a lot of money 18:18 to romance his wife because some women 18:21 would rather have that, that compliment 18:24 and just some caring gestures and if a man 18:28 would fill this, will fill his days 18:30 with these little things starting early 18:32 in the morning wrapping his arm around her 18:35 and whispering sweet nothings into her ear, 18:38 calling her during the day, 18:39 complimenting her on a meal, 18:41 being a gentleman, seeding her, 18:44 opening a car door, these little things 18:46 would mean more and could do more. 18:49 These little courtesies could do more 18:51 to make their marriage special then 18:53 almost anything else. Okay, 18:54 so lets recap where we're at right now, 18:56 we've talked about love and affection 18:58 is very important, emotional security 19:01 is very important in romantic attention 19:03 and once again this is a man who is now 19:06 loving the woman as Christ loves 19:09 the church, you know and I 19:10 tell people everywhere it's very 19:11 easy for me to be submissive to my 19:13 husband because he does love me as Christ 19:15 loves the church. And that means, 19:17 he supports my growth, he supports me 19:22 in so many ways Nancy that it's a 19:24 beautiful thing, I believe that a truly 19:28 loving man is not a controlling person 19:31 any more than Christ is forcing or 19:33 controlling the church in what to do. 19:36 But now, let's look at, because it's 19:39 equally important to meet the emotional 19:41 needs of the man in the marriage, 19:43 so how can, what are some of the 19:45 mysterious ways or the secrets of how 19:48 a woman can meet a man's emotional needs? 19:52 It is so important for a woman to meet her 19:55 husband's emotional needs and many 19:57 women don't think that a man has 19:59 emotional needs, but his primary 20:02 and most important need is for admiration 20:05 and appreciation, he needs to know 20:09 that he is admired, that his wife thinks he 20:13 is wonderful and the interesting thing 20:15 here is if a wife thinks her husband is 20:19 wonderful, the children will 20:21 think that their daddy is wonderful. 20:24 So it's the mother in the house 20:26 who sets the tone for the entire family 20:29 and especially for the children. But now, 20:32 what do you admire in a man, 20:35 well one thing and only one is his 20:37 physical appearance, you know, 20:41 and you know after a few years men 20:44 might begin to lose it a little bit, 20:46 their hair line reseeds a little bit 20:49 and maybe they're getting a little 20:51 pouch around the middle, 20:53 but just watch him if he is looking at 20:55 himself in the mirror, you just might 20:57 find him squaring his shoulders 21:00 and sucking it in a little bit and saying, 21:02 you tiger you. And that's what a wife 21:06 should be doing for her husband is giving 21:09 him that feeling and when he feels 21:11 that way he is going to be more 21:13 responsive to her needs, 21:16 for love and affection. Absolutely, 21:19 one thing that I used to share 21:20 with my sister, that I would do 21:23 with JD when I wasn't working you know, 21:26 early in our marriage when he would come 21:28 home I would always thank him, 21:30 I admire him and appreciate the fact 21:31 that he was the wed winner, 21:34 that he was supporting us and I always 21:36 thanked him for how hard he worked. 21:37 And you know, there's many different 21:39 ways but it's interesting I recently 21:41 read research where they had polled many 21:45 thousands of audiences of men, 21:47 asking the men if you had the opportunity 21:51 to either know that you were loved, 21:54 to have absolutely assurance that 21:55 someone loved you or opposed to that 21:59 not to know that you were loved but 22:00 to know that you were admired 22:02 and respected, which one 22:03 did you choose and Nancy, 22:06 80 to 90, I think it was 80 something 22:08 percent of the time, close to 90, 22:10 the men were choosing to be admired 22:13 and respected. That's 22:16 amazing, this is not surprising, 22:17 surprising to me because it is their 22:19 number one need, so yes, 22:21 they need to have their physical 22:23 appearance admired but that isn't 22:25 where we stop, because look 22:28 at his skills and his abilities what, 22:31 what can he do, perhaps skills 22:34 connected with his work and the other 22:37 day Harry said, honey, I fixed the car 22:42 and probably saved us some money, 22:44 well now that's the time to appreciate him. 22:46 So I patted him on the back and told 22:48 him how pride, proud I was at him, 22:51 5 minutes later he was back telling me 22:53 all about it all over again and I thought, 22:56 oh we're through with this yet, 22:58 so I appreciate it again, 23:00 then he came back a third time, 23:02 this time he takes me out of car and has 23:05 to lift up the hood and show me 23:07 what he was doing. Now, why was he 23:10 going through all of this? 23:11 Because he had a need that only I could fill, 23:15 he needed me to give him a pad on the back 23:18 and tell him how well he could he do amen, 23:21 amen. And that's what Jesus was saying 23:24 when the Holy Spirit actually inspired 23:27 Paul to write, wives be 23:30 submissive to your husbands, 23:31 it means to be supportive of his 23:33 vision and his plans support him and the 23:35 things that he does is showing that respect 23:38 for him as the head of the household. 23:40 If I can pick up on what you're saying 23:42 right there, one of the things that 23:44 you started out with those verses from 23:46 Ephesians 5, right and actually 23:48 women are told to respect and to be 23:52 submissive to their husbands only one time, 23:55 but men are told four different times 23:59 to love their wives, it's almost that Paul 24:04 through inspiration knew that men 24:06 were gonna have a little trouble 24:08 with this, so we told them once 24:10 and then he said again, but men just in case 24:12 you didn't get it the first time I said, 24:14 love your wives. Okay, so a man 24:18 needs admiration, appreciation, respect, 24:21 and that means respecting his 24:23 decisions too, respecting his 24:25 decisions but also an attitude of respect 24:28 when you're speaking to him and I think 24:32 so many wives well they say, 24:34 well I respect my husband, 24:36 but somehow I think if you could be a 24:38 little fly on the wall and a silent observer 24:41 in the home you might not find such a 24:44 respectful attitude. Wives get so, 24:47 mothers get so used to ordering their 24:50 children around, how many times 24:53 do I have to tell you that they begun 24:55 treating their husbands and speaking to 24:57 their husbands, as if they were a child. 25:01 And so then we have mother-son 25:03 relationship, which men do not 25:06 tolerate well at all, he already had one 25:09 mother and he doesn't need a second one. 25:13 And women will roll their eyes and go 25:17 through all kinds of non-verbal as well as 25:20 verbal behaviors, which show 25:23 not only him but the children again that 25:26 there is not much respect in this 25:28 household and you know there is one, 25:29 there's no one way that's kind of a 25:32 manipulative way, and I think that is, 25:35 we've counseled with a couple for a while who, 25:38 when they we are having a lot of 25:41 problems but they were, 25:43 the wife was very fearful of the 25:45 husband's temper. So what she would 25:47 do is she would wait till she had him 25:49 in public in front of other couples 25:52 and then she would make this cutting joke, 25:54 it was. There you know they 25:56 would laugh at it, but you knew 25:58 there was enough truth in it, 25:59 there was a lot of pain in it, 26:01 and so she kind of degraded him in public 26:04 and I mean they had some serious problems, 26:06 but that's also a very disrespectful 26:09 thing to do. It is one thing 26:10 to cut your husband down at home, 26:12 but it is an entirely another subject to 26:16 cut him down in public. Dr. Dobson calls it, 26:19 assassinate the spouse, yeah. Whenever we 26:22 are criticized it hurts, it's a love killer, 26:27 yeah. We do not want to be in the presence 26:30 of anybody who criticizes us. 26:32 It's deadly to a relation. Well, 26:35 you know what, our time is nearly 26:36 gone and we got to hit this third one 26:37 in a hurry, you've got 45 seconds. 26:40 Tell us about the third one and that 26:42 is sexual fulfillment? Yes, it is so 26:44 important to a man, because he 26:47 identifies it with his masculinity, 26:49 women do not, so it's a specific need, 26:53 every time a male performs sexually, 26:56 it's like he is almost giving himself 26:58 a pat on the back, that says you're 27:00 okay boy, you're okay. It's another way that 27:03 he can release his love for his wife, 27:06 another way of saying I really love you. 27:09 They don't know how to communicate 27:11 verbally sometimes their emotions, 27:13 but they can do it through sex. 27:15 Well, lets recap what we have gone 27:16 over today, to meet the 27:17 emotional identity, needs for a wife in a 27:21 marriage. Men, it's love and affection, 27:24 emotional security and romantic attention. 27:27 And women for your man, 27:29 it is to meet his needs, 27:30 it's admiration and appreciation, 27:32 respect and sexual fulfillment. 27:36 Once again, thank you so 27:37 much Nancy Van Pelt we have 27:39 enjoyed having you here, 27:40 it's been my privilege, a real joy. 27:42 Thank you, and for those who at home, 27:44 thank you again for joining with us, 27:46 remember what Jesus said, 27:48 for us to follow this counsel. 27:50 "Wives be submissive to your husbands. 27:52 Husbands, love your wives." |
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