Hello I'm Shelly Quinn, and 00:00:30.19\00:00:31.67 welcome to another 00:00:31.70\00:00:32.67 Issues and Answers. 00:00:32.68\00:00:33.65 You know what, If you are 00:00:33.84\00:00:35.62 divorced or maybe you've been widowed or you're a widower, 00:00:35.65\00:00:39.18 this is a program that you are going to want to watch. 00:00:39.21\00:00:42.62 And if you know anyone who is single again and 00:00:42.65\00:00:45.49 wanting to re-enter the dating market, then 00:00:45.52\00:00:48.39 that's what we are going to be talking about today, 00:00:48.42\00:00:50.31 with our special guest Nancy van Pelt 00:00:50.34\00:00:52.42 and Nancy is a certified Family Educator, 00:00:52.45\00:00:55.21 she's a strong Christian, 00:00:55.24\00:00:56.76 and she has written 28 books, 00:00:56.79\00:01:00.84 she's been to 55 countries, done over a thousand seminars, 00:01:00.87\00:01:04.09 and she is here to share some of that insight with us. 00:01:04.12\00:01:06.69 So, Nancy once again thank you for coming back to join us 00:01:06.72\00:01:10.31 all the way from Clovis California. 00:01:10.34\00:01:12.46 My privilege thank you. 00:01:12.49\00:01:14.26 Now where is Clovis? 00:01:14.29\00:01:15.53 Right close to Fresno, - Near Fresno. 00:01:15.57\00:01:17.41 right in the very heartland of California. 00:01:17.44\00:01:19.99 Well, I am just thrilled that you're bringing all of your 00:01:20.24\00:01:23.08 expertise to talk about this very important topic, 00:01:23.11\00:01:26.12 of re-entering the dating market, 00:01:26.15\00:01:29.93 because that's not easy for a lot of people. 00:01:29.96\00:01:32.63 It's very difficult when they've been out of the dating scene, 00:01:33.09\00:01:35.97 maybe they've been married 00:01:36.00\00:01:37.85 and now there spouse is gone 00:01:37.88\00:01:40.40 for whatever reason. 00:01:40.43\00:01:41.97 How do you re-enter the dating scene? 00:01:42.00\00:01:45.20 That's our question. - Ok 00:01:45.23\00:01:46.77 Now before we answer how, let me ask you this question. 00:01:46.80\00:01:50.34 When? Because if you are recently divorced or if 00:01:50.37\00:01:54.45 your spouse has passed on, 00:01:54.48\00:01:58.30 how long should you wait 00:01:58.35\00:02:00.74 to make sure that you are emotionally healed and 00:02:00.77\00:02:04.45 that you are prepared to re-enter the dating game? 00:02:04.48\00:02:08.35 It doesn't matter if you have been through a divorce 00:02:08.38\00:02:10.68 or a death, it's going to take pretty close to 2 years, 00:02:10.71\00:02:14.25 to work through all the emotional reaction 00:02:14.28\00:02:18.22 following a death or a divorce. 00:02:18.25\00:02:20.73 And yet, many people are marrying within that time frame. 00:02:20.76\00:02:25.21 So it takes, I give it, a two year time frame 00:02:25.29\00:02:28.35 for some people it's going to be more than that. 00:02:28.39\00:02:31.42 They say, after a death or divorce, 00:02:31.45\00:02:34.43 it can take up to 7 years for some people, so 00:02:34.46\00:02:37.74 2 years is, more or less, a minimum time frame, 00:02:37.78\00:02:41.51 or it takes time to find out who you are as a single person. 00:02:41.54\00:02:46.05 To make sure that you have worked through all of the 00:02:46.08\00:02:49.01 emotions, and working through the emotions is not starting 00:02:49.04\00:02:52.73 here and a steady upward, you have some good days 00:02:52.77\00:02:55.56 and some bad days. 00:02:55.59\00:02:56.84 One day when you feel healed and another day where your world 00:02:56.93\00:03:00.30 is falling apart. 00:03:00.33\00:03:01.65 And I believe that people should not be putting 00:03:01.68\00:03:04.25 themselves on the market, shall we say, available 00:03:04.28\00:03:08.78 individuals, until they are emotionally healed. 00:03:08.81\00:03:12.99 Love doesn't present itself that way, if you are going 00:03:13.02\00:03:16.88 to go on the market again, present yourself as a 00:03:16.91\00:03:19.96 healed, well, healthy person, not some emotional 00:03:19.99\00:03:24.17 basket case. 00:03:24.20\00:03:25.44 So, I'm talking about 2 years now to get over 00:03:25.47\00:03:29.60 their divorce or the death and then I'm talking about 00:03:29.63\00:03:33.47 2 more years to build a new relationship, so we're 00:03:33.50\00:03:38.11 really talking about a 4 year time frame in there 00:03:38.14\00:03:41.80 that is a minimum. 00:03:41.83\00:03:43.23 Now, boy, that is something that most people don't follow that 00:03:43.26\00:03:46.22 advise, but you know what I have seen, even with friends of mine 00:03:46.25\00:03:49.80 who have lost their husband, to death's sake, 00:03:49.83\00:03:53.05 I've seen women who maybe were not in a very good 00:03:53.08\00:03:57.27 relationship, they didn't have that good of a marriage, 00:03:57.30\00:04:01.00 they really don't know what their goals are in life, 00:04:01.03\00:04:04.97 because those goals were squelched in the past, 00:04:05.00\00:04:09.40 they were unhappy, they will turn around and marry 00:04:09.43\00:04:12.61 someone like their first spouse and their still unhappy. 00:04:12.64\00:04:16.45 And I think the problem is that people don't know who they are 00:04:16.48\00:04:20.59 and that's why they pick the wrong people, 00:04:20.62\00:04:22.73 so I think that's very good advice, if you have been 00:04:22.76\00:04:26.76 divorced or if your spouse has passed on, then 00:04:26.79\00:04:31.81 we recommend that you do really come to know who you are, 00:04:31.84\00:04:36.27 not only hear on earth, but mostly who you are 00:04:36.30\00:04:39.64 in Christ, before you think about dating anyone else. 00:04:39.67\00:04:42.25 But now are program is about getting back into that market. 00:04:42.28\00:04:46.51 I hate to use those words, but that's what people call it, 00:04:46.54\00:04:49.97 is the dating market. 00:04:50.00\00:04:50.98 How do you go about, once that time of healing 00:04:51.01\00:04:54.23 and you feel that yes I'm mentally prepared, 00:04:54.26\00:04:56.97 I'm emotionally healed, I am ready to go forward with a new 00:04:57.00\00:05:02.07 relationship, how do you enter the dating market? 00:05:02.10\00:05:05.29 Well, one of the big things you need to do, is keep a wide 00:05:05.34\00:05:08.66 circle of friends. - Ok 00:05:08.69\00:05:10.23 And if through your friends most people meet their prospective 00:05:10.26\00:05:14.40 dating partners through a circle of friends, 00:05:14.43\00:05:17.18 on all surveys that are done. But another great place is at 00:05:17.21\00:05:22.16 church and if you are going to church regularly then it'd be 00:05:22.19\00:05:26.39 somebody of like faith and this is going to be a big advantage. 00:05:26.42\00:05:31.44 Of course you could meet people at work, 00:05:31.47\00:05:33.45 Then you have the possibility that they are not of the same 00:05:33.48\00:05:38.42 faith and the same values or so forth, so you have that problem. 00:05:38.45\00:05:42.63 Now there is something, a new twist, that has come up recently 00:05:42.66\00:05:47.23 and I say, over the last number of years, and that it is 00:05:47.26\00:05:50.54 Internet dating and I know that there are many services now, 00:05:50.57\00:05:54.53 Christian services that maybe by your denomination they will post 00:05:54.56\00:06:00.48 various people on the Internet that you can meet, 00:06:00.51\00:06:03.25 of your same faith. What do you think of that? 00:06:03.28\00:06:05.17 I think that Internet dating is a great way to meet somebody, 00:06:05.20\00:06:09.11 but then that does not mean that you can establish 00:06:09.14\00:06:12.30 a relationship. For example you meet somebody who lives on 00:06:12.33\00:06:16.04 the other side of the country, who lives a thousand miles 00:06:16.07\00:06:18.70 away from you. How do you see this person frequently enough? 00:06:18.73\00:06:23.09 I know people who are completing my 2 year rule, but maybe 00:06:23.12\00:06:27.58 they've only seen each other 20 times and if you go to visit 00:06:27.61\00:06:32.61 that person on a weekend, you are not seeing that person under 00:06:32.64\00:06:37.33 normal circumstances. You're flying in Friday night, 00:06:37.36\00:06:41.10 you're flying back Sunday, so that you can manage your job. 00:06:41.13\00:06:44.85 Everything is tried to be crammed into 00:06:44.88\00:06:48.39 weekend activities. 00:06:48.42\00:06:50.41 There's nothing normal about that. 00:06:50.45\00:06:52.76 We need to see each other under normal circumstances. 00:06:52.79\00:06:56.92 Now also, to answer your question, we have to understand 00:06:56.95\00:07:01.14 the process of communication. Now let me tell you a story. 00:07:01.17\00:07:04.99 A woman wrote me from Canada, emailed me from Canada, that 00:07:05.02\00:07:09.36 she had found the perfect man over Internet dating. 00:07:09.39\00:07:14.18 She was becoming a physician, she'd never met the right person 00:07:14.21\00:07:18.06 so we know we are talking to a very intelligent woman. 00:07:18.09\00:07:21.05 But now she's met him, they are five months into their 00:07:21.08\00:07:24.33 Internet relationship, but they've never met. 00:07:24.36\00:07:26.85 And she explains to me that she knows him better 00:07:26.88\00:07:30.23 than any other man. They have discussed everything, 00:07:30.26\00:07:32.99 they have left no stone unturned, at all. 00:07:33.02\00:07:36.47 She wants to know what my opinion is, they are going to be 00:07:36.50\00:07:39.78 meeting for the first time soon and she wants to know what my 00:07:39.81\00:07:43.31 opinion is on this relationship. Should she marry this man? 00:07:43.34\00:07:47.36 Well, I had to explain to her that communication takes place 00:07:47.39\00:07:52.14 in three ways. Through our verbal, our non-verbal, and 00:07:52.17\00:07:56.20 our tone of voice. Through an email only 7% of a message can 00:07:56.23\00:08:01.29 come through, because that's all we get from the words 00:08:01.32\00:08:04.29 whether it's written or spoken. 00:08:04.32\00:08:06.35 55% comes through our non-verbal 00:08:06.38\00:08:10.79 or our body language and 38% through our tone of voice and 00:08:10.82\00:08:15.27 you see the tone of voice and body language is missing in an 00:08:15.30\00:08:19.22 email and I explained this to her, and then I said something 00:08:19.25\00:08:23.28 tongue-in-cheek, I want you to understand, 00:08:23.31\00:08:25.13 but I said, for all you know about this man, 00:08:25.16\00:08:27.48 he could be a serial murderer and you would never 00:08:27.51\00:08:30.13 know the difference. Now I said that in 00:08:30.16\00:08:32.53 tongue-in-cheek, but actually this is the way... 00:08:32.56\00:08:35.20 - Oh that's true. - It's true. 00:08:35.23\00:08:36.55 people can say one thing with their mouths and lie 00:08:36.58\00:08:41.19 with everything else. 00:08:41.22\00:08:42.56 Internet dating is extremely dangerous until the two of you 00:08:42.59\00:08:47.23 can get together. What I recommend is that 00:08:47.26\00:08:50.71 a couple continue their relationship over the Internet 00:08:50.74\00:08:54.45 for a year with occasional visits. 00:08:54.48\00:08:57.95 If it's a long-distance relationship. 00:08:57.98\00:09:01.48 If after a year it looks like it is going to work, 00:09:01.51\00:09:04.55 One of the two of them has to move. 00:09:04.58\00:09:06.76 I agree 100%. Because you would have to... 00:09:06.79\00:09:10.21 You know there's things that, and there are some things that 00:09:10.24\00:09:12.99 people don't recognize, and this is a silly example and 00:09:13.02\00:09:16.37 I hope it doesn't make me sound like a silly female, but 00:09:16.40\00:09:19.06 I was dating a man who actually was a college professor 00:09:19.09\00:09:23.37 I'd gone back to the school when I was close to 30 years old. 00:09:23.40\00:09:27.07 He was a college professor and after a semester of being 00:09:27.10\00:09:31.72 in his class, then later we began dating and 00:09:31.75\00:09:34.60 we were same faith, and we had a lot of things in common, 00:09:34.63\00:09:40.00 and there were some really interesting things, dynamics 00:09:40.03\00:09:43.86 in our relationship, but after I had dated him for about 00:09:43.89\00:09:47.60 six months, I met his family, which, I loved his family, 00:09:47.63\00:09:50.61 but you know something, when I saw him in a different, 00:09:50.64\00:09:54.11 in a family setting, suddenly he had some things 00:09:54.14\00:09:58.06 that drove me nuts and one of them was his sense of humor. 00:09:58.09\00:10:00.65 I'd never seen it before, but he had a really, 00:10:00.68\00:10:04.19 I don't know any other word to use, but a goofy sense of humor, 00:10:04.22\00:10:08.91 a silly slapstick sense of humor and drove it me up the wall. 00:10:08.95\00:10:13.61 And then I began to see that more and more and more 00:10:13.64\00:10:16.19 when we were in family situations, and I didn't realize 00:10:16.22\00:10:21.14 that even sense of humor, when you have common values and 00:10:21.17\00:10:25.89 shared things, even that can really make a big difference 00:10:25.92\00:10:29.23 in the way that you feel about somebody. 00:10:29.26\00:10:30.98 And I began to see other things. You can't tell that over the 00:10:31.01\00:10:33.64 Internet. You can't share that, 00:10:33.67\00:10:36.01 and they find that marriages are happy when husbands and wives 00:10:36.04\00:10:40.79 can laugh together, can play together, 00:10:40.82\00:10:43.28 and when they shared the same sense of humor. 00:10:43.31\00:10:46.16 The interesting thing is that new research shows that 00:10:46.19\00:10:48.73 men and women have different senses of humor, 00:10:48.76\00:10:51.56 women like more spontaneous humor, 00:10:51.59\00:10:53.95 and men are more into the slapstick type of humor, so 00:10:53.98\00:10:58.62 that's one of the gender differences. 00:10:58.65\00:11:00.44 That's interesting, I didn't know that. 00:11:00.50\00:11:01.98 My husband isn't slapstick, so the Lord knew I didn't need that 00:11:02.01\00:11:06.83 Well, so if you are re-entering, through friends or meeting 00:11:06.86\00:11:11.84 someone through the friendship circle, or through church, or 00:11:11.87\00:11:16.19 possibly through Internet dating, and I, by the way, 00:11:16.25\00:11:18.86 know a number of people who've met and married someone from the 00:11:18.89\00:11:22.68 Internet was their introduction and it's been very successful. 00:11:22.71\00:11:25.57 what is the most important thing that we can counsel with someone 00:11:25.60\00:11:30.89 who may be going through a divorce and it's a 00:11:30.92\00:11:33.85 lengthy divorce, should they even consider re-entering before 00:11:33.88\00:11:38.97 or should someone consider dating someone 00:11:39.00\00:11:41.43 whose divorce is not final? 00:11:41.46\00:11:43.65 I strongly recommend that you do not begin dating until the 00:11:43.69\00:11:49.59 divorce is final. Very, very strongly. 00:11:49.62\00:11:52.93 I know of one case where a husband-and-wife were getting 00:11:52.96\00:11:56.85 a divorce, there was no hope and she began dating somebody. 00:11:56.88\00:12:02.56 But he held up, he was not going to put himself on 00:12:02.59\00:12:07.80 the market yet. Would you believe, just before 00:12:07.83\00:12:10.57 the final papers were signed, 00:12:10.60\00:12:14.32 she changed her mind and said 00:12:14.36\00:12:16.70 she wanted to give the relationship one last shot. 00:12:16.74\00:12:20.41 So they went into a counseling, their relationship was saved. 00:12:20.44\00:12:24.77 Now, what would have happened if he had said, there is no hope 00:12:24.80\00:12:28.59 for this relationship, it's final, so he 00:12:28.62\00:12:31.47 starts dating somebody. I do not call that honorable 00:12:31.50\00:12:35.45 dating. I think we need to date with integrity. 00:12:35.48\00:12:39.30 Date in an honorable way and that to me is not an honorable 00:12:39.33\00:12:44.89 way of entering the dating scene ...if you have a relationship in 00:12:44.92\00:12:49.71 the background that is not completely over, whether it's 00:12:49.74\00:12:52.82 emotional or whether it is a legal matter. 00:12:52.85\00:12:56.38 This is not re-entering the dating game honorably. 00:12:56.41\00:12:59.53 Well, and you are also violating God's commandment, of 00:12:59.57\00:13:02.66 not committing adultery, because that is a spiritual adultery. 00:13:02.70\00:13:05.23 If you are still married, you're still married. 00:13:05.26\00:13:06.98 So that's something that's very critical. 00:13:07.02\00:13:09.92 - Yes. But now what about the parent, 00:13:09.95\00:13:13.04 the single-parent who's divorced and let's say they've gone 00:13:13.08\00:13:16.79 through the 2 year rule, and they've waited to re-enter. 00:13:16.82\00:13:20.02 And they have children, that's a special consideration. 00:13:20.05\00:13:24.30 How do single parents with children re-enter 00:13:24.33\00:13:27.21 the dating game? 00:13:27.25\00:13:28.22 This is one of the big differences between 00:13:28.23\00:13:29.96 dating as a mature adult, and 00:13:29.99\00:13:32.49 dating when you are a teenager. 00:13:32.53\00:13:34.59 Of course more and more teenagers 00:13:34.63\00:13:36.33 are having babies out of wedlock now too. 00:13:36.36\00:13:38.94 but generally speaking they are not dating when they have 00:13:38.97\00:13:44.20 children, but the mature adult who has been previously married 00:13:44.23\00:13:48.20 or perhaps widowed, will be entering. 00:13:48.24\00:13:51.03 Now the trend is to just bring 00:13:51.06\00:13:54.65 the children along on a lot of 00:13:54.70\00:13:57.47 occasions, but that's not always a good trend to follow, because 00:13:57.50\00:14:03.18 children who have lost one parent already, 00:14:03.21\00:14:06.05 whether it be to divorce or to death, already are 00:14:06.08\00:14:11.26 emotionally upset, because they have lost half of their parent. 00:14:11.29\00:14:15.71 - Yes. and they need security. 00:14:15.74\00:14:17.82 they need to permanence in their life, not a succession 00:14:17.85\00:14:21.84 of dating partners. And so I strongly recommend that when 00:14:21.87\00:14:26.51 people re-enter the dating scene that their children not be 00:14:26.54\00:14:30.55 a part of that. And it becomes even more complicated should 00:14:30.58\00:14:35.32 the parent have a teenager. 00:14:35.35\00:14:37.35 - Yes. Teenagers consider themselves 00:14:37.45\00:14:40.15 maybe the star of the dating scene, so if 00:14:40.18\00:14:44.03 mom or dad is dating and the teenager is dating it can almost 00:14:44.06\00:14:48.99 set up a scene of competition. 00:14:49.02\00:14:51.96 So teenagers may be aware that 00:14:51.99\00:14:55.29 you are having relationships, or younger children as well, 00:14:55.33\00:14:59.18 but don't bring them into it until the relationship is 00:14:59.21\00:15:02.94 well established. You can on certain occasions, 00:15:02.97\00:15:08.33 but keep things very cool, very... 00:15:08.36\00:15:11.26 - Casual. - Casual, friendly. 00:15:11.29\00:15:14.30 No demonstrations of strong, 00:15:14.33\00:15:18.92 romantic affection. Think more 00:15:18.95\00:15:21.35 of bringing this person along as a friend and no 00:15:21.38\00:15:25.43 heavy commitments, so it's very, very difficult to 00:15:25.46\00:15:30.16 date with children. What do you do with the children? 00:15:30.19\00:15:32.48 You know you have to hire babysitters, unless they're 00:15:32.51\00:15:35.13 going to come with you, so we have another whole world 00:15:35.16\00:15:38.15 of dating out there with children. 00:15:38.18\00:15:40.76 Well, and children, sometimes it seems that, there is one of two 00:15:40.81\00:15:44.64 scenarios. Either the child looks at the new person that's 00:15:44.68\00:15:49.09 arriving on the scene as competition, say to 00:15:49.12\00:15:52.60 either a deceased parent or to a divorced parent, and so 00:15:52.63\00:15:57.66 they will be very detrimental to the relationship. 00:15:57.69\00:16:01.18 They'll do anything they can to destroy it,or a child can become 00:16:01.21\00:16:05.13 overly attached to someone... - Yes. 00:16:05.16\00:16:06.95 that maybe you're not overly attached to. 00:16:06.99\00:16:09.18 And then when you break up that child has to go through 00:16:09.21\00:16:13.61 the loss of another important person in their life. 00:16:13.65\00:16:16.79 ...o it's very, very difficult. And yes, and some children also 00:16:16.82\00:16:21.14 can, at a certain age, "Is he going to be my daddy?" 00:16:21.17\00:16:24.98 - Yes. "Is she going to be my mommy?" 00:16:25.02\00:16:27.20 And this can be embarrassing to, so it's better not to bring 00:16:27.24\00:16:32.13 children into a relationship, especially in the early stages. 00:16:32.17\00:16:36.64 Except for special occasions. - When it's unstable. 00:16:36.68\00:16:39.52 Okay, now what happens if let's say that you've done everything 00:16:39.55\00:16:43.49 right here and you are a single father and you have waited the 00:16:43.53\00:16:48.80 2 years to re-enter the dating game, and 00:16:48.83\00:16:52.96 now you've been dating someone that you were friends with 00:16:53.00\00:16:56.88 at first and then you kind of began casual dating, 00:16:56.92\00:16:59.83 more exclusive type, or where it wasn't really exclusive, but you 00:16:59.87\00:17:03.62 had casual dating, now you're into that series dating and 00:17:03.65\00:17:05.71 you're maybe thinking about this might be the person I want to 00:17:05.75\00:17:09.58 marry, so you bring this woman new special person in your life 00:17:09.62\00:17:13.83 home to meet the children and to introduce them as someone 00:17:13.87\00:17:17.46 that you're interested in and the children don't approve. 00:17:17.50\00:17:20.35 Now what you do? 00:17:20.39\00:17:22.26 This can be a major problem and some people will go right ahead 00:17:22.30\00:17:27.56 and marry anyway and live to regret it. 00:17:27.59\00:17:32.10 I have found many couples who I think without children involved, 00:17:32.13\00:17:36.93 had the maturity to make the relationship work, but the 00:17:36.96\00:17:41.15 children themselves do not have the maturity, and if they take a 00:17:41.19\00:17:46.30 dislike to somebody, and think also what a child has at stake 00:17:46.33\00:17:51.33 because if we got his kids and her kids now that are now 00:17:51.37\00:17:55.70 uniting in the relationship maybe a daughter who has never 00:17:55.74\00:18:00.42 shared a bedroom with anybody suddenly has to have her bedroom 00:18:00.45\00:18:05.16 shared, her territory is not her own anymore. 00:18:05.20\00:18:08.25 we've got major complications and many people are marrying 00:18:08.28\00:18:12.61 especially through this Internet dating, now 00:18:12.64\00:18:15.49 without ever meeting each other's children or maybe 00:18:15.52\00:18:18.88 they meet for the first time at the wedding. 00:18:18.92\00:18:20.80 This type of thing is occurring and this is not healthy. 00:18:20.83\00:18:25.13 When children do not approve I believe that a parent 00:18:25.16\00:18:28.35 should sit down ahead of time talk openly with a child, 00:18:28.38\00:18:33.03 not telling them everything, but asking their opinion 00:18:33.06\00:18:37.06 letting them know that you may not necessarily follow 00:18:37.09\00:18:42.69 everything that they are saying, but you are open to hear 00:18:42.73\00:18:46.46 what they have to say. I think a parent needs this 00:18:46.50\00:18:49.28 kind of respectable attitude that open dialogue with the 00:18:49.32\00:18:54.55 child taking what the child has to say into consideration, but 00:18:54.58\00:18:58.57 letting the child know that, in the end you are a person 00:18:58.61\00:19:01.72 enough to make your own decision. 00:19:01.75\00:19:03.26 But if you make that decision when your children are against 00:19:03.29\00:19:05.83 you, you've got to be able to live with the consequences. 00:19:05.87\00:19:09.73 So you know there's times that children can see things maybe 00:19:09.78\00:19:13.60 you don't see and there's some really valid reasons, but 00:19:13.63\00:19:18.29 there's times that children can be just very selfish. 00:19:18.32\00:19:20.60 - Yes. And they don't want to share you 00:19:20.63\00:19:23.64 with someone else. So you can't let the child 00:19:23.67\00:19:26.71 control your life, but yet if the child has some really valid 00:19:26.74\00:19:31.68 reasons, is there some kind of counseling procedure that you 00:19:31.71\00:19:34.96 can go through at this time? I would recommend that 00:19:34.99\00:19:37.50 and there's a type of therapy a family therapist, that would 00:19:37.53\00:19:40.97 see you altogether and families even form teams 00:19:41.00\00:19:45.50 when you go into a room, what side, where would the 00:19:45.53\00:19:50.02 children sit. With mom, with dad who are they going to side with. 00:19:50.05\00:19:54.64 All kinds of things in a family therapist would 00:19:54.67\00:19:57.72 work through these issues and of course this prepare MC that 00:19:57.75\00:20:01.45 I mentioned to you before would get into some of the issues 00:20:01.48\00:20:04.83 involved in parenting children that are not your own, 00:20:04.86\00:20:09.79 one of the most difficult types of parenting is parenting 00:20:09.82\00:20:13.42 stepchildren, children that are not your own and the 00:20:13.45\00:20:18.22 wicked stepmother, you know, she gets labeled that, much 00:20:18.25\00:20:23.58 of the discipline is going to fall on her shoulders. 00:20:23.61\00:20:26.94 what kind of maturity, what kind of parenting skills 00:20:26.97\00:20:30.67 does she have in parenting a child that is not her own. 00:20:30.70\00:20:35.05 A child that does not like her. Does she have the personality? 00:20:35.08\00:20:39.80 The maturity, the ability to turn that around? 00:20:39.83\00:20:44.03 A big, big, big decision. - And this is something that 00:20:44.06\00:20:47.68 obviously, any two people who are considering marrying 00:20:47.71\00:20:50.74 that they do have children, maybe one or the other side, 00:20:50.77\00:20:53.57 or both have children, they need to really thoroughly 00:20:53.60\00:20:56.48 discuss this and decide how they are going to handle these 00:20:56.51\00:20:59.47 situations. I mean, they need to have a united front to offer to 00:20:59.50\00:21:05.13 to the children here if they do get married. 00:21:05.16\00:21:06.88 Now let me, oh, I just wanted to stop you for a minute, 00:21:06.92\00:21:09.79 because you mentioned the prepare MC that we discussed 00:21:09.82\00:21:12.27 in another program, but for viewers who weren't able to 00:21:12.31\00:21:15.75 watch the other program, please explain what prepare MC is. 00:21:15.78\00:21:19.95 Prepare MC is a test of 125 questions that both he and she 00:21:19.99\00:21:25.78 would take separately and then they would meet with a counselor 00:21:25.81\00:21:29.43 afterwards to discuss any areas that did not match and... 00:21:29.46\00:21:35.46 - Potential problem areas. - Potential problem areas, 00:21:35.50\00:21:37.79 and the MC stands for married with children in the home. 00:21:37.82\00:21:42.11 And they go to a counselor that is certified for 00:21:42.15\00:21:47.42 administering this test and the interesting thing is that it 00:21:47.45\00:21:52.04 can tell within 86% accuracy whether this relationship will 00:21:52.07\00:21:56.51 end in a divorce or not. Powerful tool. 00:21:56.54\00:21:59.77 That is, and I understand that there's a lot of pastors who 00:21:59.81\00:22:02.81 are using this in their family counseling,... 00:22:02.85\00:22:04.66 - Yes. so this would be a good test. 00:22:04.70\00:22:06.73 I highly recommend this, especially for anybody who is 00:22:06.76\00:22:10.14 entering a marriage with children on either side. 00:22:10.18\00:22:13.39 Nancy, what advice would you give to a divorced parent who's 00:22:13.42\00:22:18.45 previous husband or wife is entering the dating game. 00:22:18.49\00:22:23.28 Let's say you're a single again mother and you have several 00:22:23.31\00:22:28.21 children and you find out your husband is entering into dating 00:22:28.39\00:22:32.05 before you do. How do you handle that with the children? 00:22:32.08\00:22:35.18 This is very difficult, because 00:22:35.21\00:22:37.87 that husband may not share 00:22:37.91\00:22:41.34 your same values and may not 00:22:41.38\00:22:44.74 even keep the same day of worship, may be living or 00:22:44.78\00:22:49.52 sleeping with another woman and your children are being 00:22:49.56\00:22:53.58 exposed to this. But you know what Shelly, 00:22:53.61\00:22:56.13 the real test of all this needs to be considered at the time 00:22:56.17\00:23:00.07 that you are divorcing that man. You know I'm smiling right now, 00:23:00.11\00:23:04.62 because I'm not a real Dr. Laura fan, but every 00:23:04.66\00:23:07.53 once in a while she has a bit of wisdom, now whether 00:23:07.57\00:23:10.72 this is her greatest bit of wisdom, but she says 00:23:10.76\00:23:13.13 if you are going to divorce, you should not remarry again 00:23:13.17\00:23:17.03 until those kids are in college. - Wow! 00:23:17.06\00:23:19.96 Because what dating does is take 00:23:19.99\00:23:23.95 your time and attention away 00:23:23.98\00:23:27.16 from your children and you are putting more energy into your 00:23:27.22\00:23:31.28 dating relationships than you are into your children. 00:23:31.32\00:23:34.65 And, you know, there is something to that. 00:23:34.68\00:23:37.62 Dating takes a tremendous amount of energy. 00:23:37.66\00:23:41.23 And children are the primary concern. 00:23:41.27\00:23:44.12 Yes, I'm concerned about the single's future, but 00:23:44.15\00:23:48.42 you know what? You brought those children 00:23:48.45\00:23:50.16 into the world,... - Yes. 00:23:50.41\00:23:51.38 and you need to worry about leading those children to 00:23:51.50\00:23:54.16 the Lord and making sure that as a single parent you're doing the 00:23:54.19\00:23:58.28 right thing for that child all the way through. 00:23:58.32\00:24:01.45 - Yes. And for those who perhaps 00:24:01.48\00:24:04.28 do not take that advice, or don't see the wisdom of 00:24:04.32\00:24:08.09 that advice, and there are different routes, I mean there 00:24:08.13\00:24:10.58 are many, I've seen many second marriages where the children 00:24:10.62\00:24:13.76 benefit greatly... - Yes. 00:24:13.80\00:24:15.43 from having a father, you know, if you are a single woman trying 00:24:15.47\00:24:20.11 to bring up boys by herself, that if she marries the right 00:24:20.15\00:24:23.26 person, the man who steps in to be their father may be a better 00:24:23.29\00:24:27.06 role model than their biological father. So, we're not trying to 00:24:27.09\00:24:31.95 dissuade anyone, you've got to do a lot of praying and follow 00:24:31.98\00:24:36.28 some pretty good ground rules, but I see the wisdom in that 00:24:36.32\00:24:41.35 as well. Now before, we're running out of time so rapidly 00:24:41.38\00:24:45.56 and I wanted to touch on widows and widowers specifically 00:24:45.60\00:24:48.58 because there are so many out there. 00:24:48.61\00:24:50.85 Do you have some wise words for the widows and widowers? 00:24:50.88\00:24:54.21 Well, widows and widowers will go through the 2 years 00:24:54.24\00:24:57.54 of grieving, but they don't have all the bad memories. 00:24:57.58\00:25:02.11 When you go through a divorce there's so much negative emotion 00:25:02.15\00:25:05.97 but there's not so much negative emotion connected with... 00:25:06.00\00:25:09.70 - With a death. - With a death, 00:25:09.73\00:25:12.98 - Yes. and they say that one of the 00:25:13.01\00:25:16.22 best times to remarry is in the 50s. When you are 50 or beyond, 00:25:16.44\00:25:20.91 because your children are generally speaking, they're 00:25:20.94\00:25:25.13 raised and they're gone and you still have your health, 00:25:25.16\00:25:28.45 you are financially stable. So it can be one of the 00:25:28.48\00:25:32.48 best times to remarry. And maybe because you know 00:25:32.52\00:25:35.75 what you want more, and you don't play the games that 00:25:35.79\00:25:39.24 other people play. - Yes,... 00:25:39.28\00:25:40.61 although people remember now, everybody does the game playing, 00:25:40.65\00:25:44.20 because we always want to put our best foot forward. 00:25:44.24\00:25:47.59 But I still believe they need to take the Prepare test, because 00:25:47.62\00:25:52.03 now we have a new Prepare test, once you are 50, it's called 00:25:52.07\00:25:55.93 Mate now, but it's still part of Prepare, because there are still 00:25:55.97\00:25:59.88 issues that you need to look at, but I'm glad you said that, that 00:25:59.91\00:26:05.88 we don't want to frown on second marriages, because 00:26:05.98\00:26:10.07 the second marriage can be the best thing sometimes that ever 00:26:10.13\00:26:12.86 happen to you. But remember second marriages do have a 00:26:13.13\00:26:16.69 higher divorce rate than first marriages. So we need to be more 00:26:16.73\00:26:20.85 careful the second, third, fourth and fifth time around. 00:26:20.88\00:26:24.53 The divorce rate does not slow down until a person has been 00:26:24.56\00:26:28.37 married five times. - My goodness,... 00:26:28.40\00:26:30.94 that's an amazing statistic, but you know when you say 00:26:30.98\00:26:33.26 we need to more careful, maybe we just need to be more careful 00:26:33.30\00:26:36.41 the first time we get married so that we don't get into that 00:26:36.45\00:26:39.30 divorced arena. - Exactly, exactly. 00:26:39.40\00:26:41.12 But there's so many variables that we cannot foresee and 00:26:42.00\00:26:47.31 so many things that change. the most important advice that 00:26:47.34\00:26:51.34 we can give is just not to marry too quickly, whether it's your 00:26:51.38\00:26:54.95 first time or another time. - Absolutely, and take that 00:26:54.99\00:27:00.57 Prepare test. First time around or whether it's the second or 00:27:00.60\00:27:05.27 third time around. Just being a little more careful, asking 00:27:05.30\00:27:09.04 the Lord direct guidance, is this the one for me? 00:27:09.07\00:27:12.92 But the member what I said singles, when they pray they 00:27:12.95\00:27:16.32 can hear God say anything they want to hear God saying to them. 00:27:16.35\00:27:20.47 But be very careful, cautious, and slow down. 00:27:20.51\00:27:24.09 What you're saying is, sometimes when we're praying we are 00:27:24.13\00:27:27.89 hearing our own thoughts instead of God's thoughts, because we 00:27:27.93\00:27:31.25 get so emotionally charged and involved in the event. 00:27:31.29\00:27:34.29 Nancy, our time is all gone again so fast. 00:27:34.33\00:27:36.47 Thank you so much for being here and we're going to have you back 00:27:36.51\00:27:39.54 for a couple more programs. For those of you at home, 00:27:39.57\00:27:42.51 remember this, it doesn't matter what's going on in your life, 00:27:42.55\00:27:46.24 God has a plan for your life and I guarantee you, it's probably 00:27:46.27\00:27:50.80 better than the one you are already living. 00:27:50.84\00:27:53.34 Stay tuned. 00:27:53.38\00:27:54.68