Hello, I'm Shelley
Quinn and welcome to
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another Issue And Answers.
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We have a
fascinating program today
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and a fascinating
guest before we began
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and before I tell
you what our program
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topic is about, I
wanted to read a scripture
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to you from Exodus chapter 20
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verses 1 and 2, the Bible says,
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then God spoke all these things
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and he said I am
the Lord your God
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who has brought you
out of the land of Egypt
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and out of the house
of bondage you shall have
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no other Gods before
me. Our topic today is,
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"Is there a God in existence
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and how can we know for sure,"
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and we have a very special guest
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Dr. Subodh
Pandit and Dr. Pandit,
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you come to us
from Hendersonville,
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North Carolina
and we just want to
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welcome you today. Thank you,
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I'm glad to be
here and I understand
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that you have an
organization ministry
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called Search
Seminars International correct?
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That's right,
well please tell us
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just a little bit
about your background
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what do you do
in Hendersonville?
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Well I'm a Board
Certified Internist
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but at the moment I
am practicing emergency
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room medicine in North Carolina.
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I have a wife, we're married,
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she is IVA
geriatric specialist. Yes.
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Well, we have
children three of them,
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Pritam out there in
the Washington area,
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Dipika in California
and Maya in Chattanooga,
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Tennessee. So,
we're all spread out.
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Where since momma and
daddy are both doctors,
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so your children
also following in the
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medical profession.
Two of them the third one
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says no way, I've
got to get something else
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going with myself so
she is going in maybe to
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psychology and
counseling after that.
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Now, let me ask you
the road that you on is,
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does that have a particular name
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for the robes.
Well, this is a kurta.
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Kurta. It is
worn in by those of us
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from India part,
some parts of India
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and incidentally India
is such diverse country
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and that's where I come from,
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if you move just
from one state to another
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it would be like
moving from other country.
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Different
language, different dress,
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different food,
different culture,
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so this is just one
of them, one of them.
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And in India
Hindi is the national.
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Hindi is the
national language we have.
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And what did you
speak in your area.
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My home tongue was in Bengali,
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that's from the east. Okay.
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We have about 14
to 16 major languages
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and over 200 dilates in India.
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That's amazing
and even though Hindi
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is the national
language most people do speak
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English as well as is
that correct? Especially
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in the Metropolitan
cities and across state
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boundaries, especially
from North to the South
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and East to the West,
well English is spoken
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fairly widely. Now
being brought up in India
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in this deserve
culture, I'm sure that you were
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exposed to many,
many different religions.
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Such a country
of diversity. Yes.
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Including the religious ideas.
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What began you on I
know your secret of the truth
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and you are going to
just be fascinated with,
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we're going to have
Dr. Pandit with us for
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several programs, but
when you were brought up
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in the Seventh-day
Adventist religion,
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is that correct.
Christians Seventh-day
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Adventist. Christian
Seventh-day Adventist.
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But there is no such
thing as an inherited
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relationship with
the Lord you have to be
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born again of God
and so you began a search
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for truth to really
examine Christianity
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compared to all the
other major religions,
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can you tell us a
little bit about that.
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Oh! For one thing
the background of the
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country of India we
have the largest Hindu
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population in the
world over 800 million.
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We have the second largest
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Muslims population in the world.
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Have you people
realize that we have
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more Muslims in
India then in some of the
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Muslims country themselves.
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We have Buddhism which
actually began in India
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and tradition has
it that Christianity
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came to India
brought that by Jesus
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own disciples
Thomas. Yes. India is also
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called the home
of Sikhism, Jainism,
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so we are quite a diverse
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religious
culture. Growing up there
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one looks around
and ask questions that
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naturally come up. Yes, we will,
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we might look at
it from a Christian
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or from a Hindu point of view
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but at a certain point I realize
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that the best way
for me look at it was not
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from any of these.
But to just step out
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and become like a
person on the street
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with no religious or
philosophical loyalties
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and just from that
position make a search.
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But Dr. Pandit what
caused you to want to
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make the search if you
were brought in a family
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that was a Christian
family what was going on
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inside your head
that made you want to make
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this search? A real
good question because
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that's the starting
point, I notice that
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there were a lot of
people who were really
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very friendly,
loving, kind and generous
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friends, and when
I looked into them
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they follows others religions,
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many religions,
there were Sikhs,
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there were Hindus,
there were Muslims.
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So in the back of my mind I grew
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this question, how would I say
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that what I have is the thing.
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And would they be
able to say the same thing
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that there's was it,
and I realized at that point
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there was no way I
could make a clear cut
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conclusion. So
I began to search.
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So if you're looking for truth
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and you are a seeker
of the truth where do you
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begin when you have
all of these this religious
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diversity around
you and how I mean
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will you share in your
own heart that you were
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convinced that God existed.
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There was a point in
which I was but I have
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to question on
what basis that belief
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was made. And the
first question that
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I really that I
had was not to look at
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these different
philosophies but to ask
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myself where and how do I start
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because I found
something in my own mind
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and that was that
I had in me the mind
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and the attitude of a skeptic,
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of a believer and
also of an inquirer
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at any given time. I could flip
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from one to the
other and with nobody
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supervising me I
could do as I pleased.
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But I knew in
the back of my mind
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that would not do I
would have to become
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an inquirer. And maintain that
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at all times.
Alright. So what I did was
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describe them,
describe what a believer
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and a skeptic
and an inquirer was.
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No, I'm not
describing people. Right.
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Well, I'm just
describing what was
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in my own mind for instance,
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a skeptic will disbelieve even
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without an investigation. Okay.
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A believer will
hold on it without an
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investigation
where as an inquirer
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will hold his verdict
until an investigation
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is made. Amen. He's a slide that
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I can show of
the examples of those
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sentences, it says
the skeptic disbelieves
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in the face of
reasonable evidence.
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The believer
believes in the face of
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big questions,
where as the inquirer
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accepts reasonable
evidence even if some
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questions remain.
And it's probably a true
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statement isn't it
that each one of us
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has fallen into one of these
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or all of these
categories at some point
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in time in our
life. That's right
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and what I
wanted to do was remain
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an inquirer for the
duration of this search.
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So this I understand
with you being having
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the medical
background that you have that
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you are probably
very thorough in this,
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you're searching your heart now
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and saying okay I
want to know the truth.
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I want to be an
inquirer, what was
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the nature of your
study, what premise
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did you set up and
what did you go about?
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How did you begin?
As soon as I decided
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that I wanted to
become an inquirer
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I realized it is
not easy to remain
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an inquirer, we
would have to create
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an atmosphere so
that it would remain
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an inquirer and I
chocked out 4 factors
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that I thought was
very important in this
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and the next slide
will show these four.
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Click the first
of which is Humility,
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the second is
Honesty, the third is Calmness
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and the fourth
Respect. Humility was the most
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important. Amen,
amen. Unless you are humble
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you will think that
you already know it,
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and the moment
you think you know it
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you're not gonna get
the next information.
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Absolutely that I
can test it that by
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personal
experience because I clung to
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some belief that
I had been thought
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in the
denomination that in which
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I was brought up I
clung to those for a long time
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until the Lord really
had to get my attention
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and tell me to forgot
what I thought I knew,
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so that's very, very
critical that humility
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to come before me
and say I don't know
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all the answers.
Honesty really follows.
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Yes, the moment you are humble
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you want to be
honest about what there is
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and I gave it the
pretty rigid definition
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and here is what it
is, honesty I thought
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was the willingness
to give credit to a point
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that was made no
matter from where it came
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or who made it and
even if your acknowledgment
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of that point
might destroy your own
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previous argument in other words
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you're going to be
open and honest about
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any thing that anybody says.
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Calmness was most required
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for the simple
reason that we are so
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emotionally charged when we deal
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with the religion.
Yes. But we see it not only
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you know in this daily talk but
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look at the Middle East. Amen.
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They pull out
their guns and bombs
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and rockets in the
name of religion, yes,
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we need to be
calm because the moment
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we lose our calmness
the light of thinking
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really grows dim.
Lose our objectivity.
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We just lose it.
Exactly. Respect is also
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very important, I
think we have lost a
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great deal of it
in our communities
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in the world. First
of all what is it not,
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respect is not
agreement, in fact
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respect really
shines out the best when
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there is a
disagreement. Respect just says
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I allow you to have your opinion
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and search for it
and make any conclusion
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just the way
you want, as long as
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you also give
me that same stands
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that I will do it the way I want
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and we can have a
good exchange of ideas
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without being disrespectful
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at any point. And it
takes a certain grace
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from God to have
that respect because
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everybody
believes that we do become
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emotionally charged as you say
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and we believe
that what we believe
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is right. So
you're having to lay aside
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what you were
brought up believing,
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trying to remain an inquirer,
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trying to hold on
to these four aspects,
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what questions now, I mean where
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do you begin, what questions
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do you go out seeking.
That was quite a dilemma
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because there
are so many questions
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out there when I
look at the scene
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really there were
basically two groups
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of people
finally, some were saying
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there is a God and
then the other group were
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very adamant that
there just was not a God
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so if I was
going to look for which
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is the right
religion my first question
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would have to be is
there finally something
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or some power or
somebody out there
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called God. And how
would I be able to make
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that conclusion.
So, did you come up
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with like how did you begin,
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how did you proceed? I
had to first tell myself
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or define to myself
two things number one,
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what did I mean by
this word God. Okay.
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And next what
did I mean by a fact
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or evidence, so I
wrote out a definition
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and here it is on
another slide. Alright.
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The definition
that I wrote out for God
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the definition
is the pre-existing,
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self sustaining
intelligent being who
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designed and
created all nature including
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humankind. Amen. I
had to give that as a
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definition so that I
could have some thing
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to go by when I
was searching. Okay.
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Then next was
what did I mean by fact
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or evidence and
interestingly it took me
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some time but I
came up with 6 ideas
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some were called
direct fact and that's the
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next slide that I
would like to put up.
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Direct Facts are
three, number one,
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Axiomatic,
number two, Pure Maths
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and number three,
Empirical Evidence.
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And let's break
those down to English.
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That's right, let's
explain for our audience
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what is
Axiomatic facts. An axiom
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is a surmise
really but this is a very
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specific type of
surmise that is not open to
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proving or
disproving. For instance,
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I am, that is not
open to disproving
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or proving, it
would be extremely absurd
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if I disprove my own existence.
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And it's
interesting that when you said
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Axiomatic facts and
you can't prove them
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or disprove them, so
how does that fit into
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the facts
category. You just they are
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just there and you accept them.
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Okay, okay. Number two
is the Maths Pure Maths
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just one is one,
two is two, there is no
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question about
it, it is settled in
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everybody's mind, the third is
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Empirical
Evidence, we could question
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Empirical Evidence
but it is that which
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we can see, hear,
taste, feel directly.
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So, these are the
three direct then we had
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the three
indirect types of evidence
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that I wrote down
and these are number one
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Circumstantial
Evidence, number two
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Logical Analysis
and number three a
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Statistical
Analysis of the question.
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So you are, now
you know where you
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want to begin as
far as this search
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and this is and I can
see how your mind works
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you are very
thorough, a very thorough
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student. So
you've got these premises
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that you're going to
begin, where did you,
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where did you
began? First of all
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I recognized that
I could not use the
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direct fact for
God. Okay. I had to go to
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the indirect Circumstantial,
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Logical Analysis and
Statistical Analysis.
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So a description of
the Circumstantial Evidence
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there were some I will
mention three number one
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is the question of numbers,
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we all relate to well to numbers
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and in this
question here is how I look
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at it if there was
just one or two individuals
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telling me that
they saw a white elephant
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I will question them.
But as the numbers grow
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200, 500 who
saw a while elephant
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or say a white crow
then as the number grow
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I would have to be in
a position to at least
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accept the possibility
and not just dismiss it.
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So when you look
at numbers that was
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the first
Circumstantial Evidence because
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there are
billions who believe that
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there is a God.
Amen. So I couldn't just
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dismiss it, it become one of the
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Circumstantial
Evidences. Number two
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is Logical Analysis
now here what you do is
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you look at a
sentences and call it may be a
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claim or a
proposition these are big words
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but just sentences
and then ask some question
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of the sentences.
So there were about
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at least half a
dozen of theses sentences,
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I will give an
example of say two of them
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here is the
proposition that is out there.
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The proposition is
that they was matter,
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substance that was not alive,
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that was not
thinking, but it evolved
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to the point that it
began to now be alive
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and also think,
that's the proposition.
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Now I want to
analyze that logically,
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so I ask these two questions,
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is it possible for
life the principle of life
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and also the
principle of thinking
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called intellect,
is it possible for life
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and intellect to
just be hovering somewhere
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there apart from
matter such that at some
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particular time these
factors came into matter
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and then matter
became living and thinking
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like you and me. So the
question is it possible,
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or is it possible
for life to exist apart
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from matter. The
second question is do
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we have any
evidence that such a process
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has ever been demonstrated,
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shown to be possible.
Now here are the answers
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to those two
questions so the first question
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is it possible for
a life and intellect
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to exist apart
from matter the honest
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answer is I
don't know. And nobody
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on earth really
knows but when you come
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to the second one
is there any evidence
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that such a
process can take place,
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we have to answer
and say none whatsoever.
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Right. Now
scientifically speaking
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to form a theory
it should be based on
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some kind of an
observation to which
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you can attach an experiment,
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when you look at
this I found that it
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really did not come up to be a
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scientific theory
because it is based on
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there is no
evidence and I don't know.
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Really
conjecture. That cannot be
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scientific theory
so at this point of
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Logical Analysis
I had to recognize
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that the initial
claim that they made was a
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really not a scientific theory,
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I could not put it
down to a scientific test,
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you can't test I don't know
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and there is no evidence. Right,
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the second part
of Logical Analysis
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is another sentence
that they keep on saying
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and that is this.
We do not need anything
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but ordinary
natural explanations for
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anything we
observe any phenomena,
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any mystery, any
miracle. We don't
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need a
supernatural explanation one day
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we will come to
the place, we will find
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all the scientific
facts and when it's all
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sudden done
those scientific facts
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and principles will
explain all that we see
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as mysteries and
miracles, we do not
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need anything supernatural
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or we do not need
anything known as God.
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Okay that is the
statement I would
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like to logically
analyze that statement.
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One thing that
crossed my mind was
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this question of
knowledge and I realized
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that the moment
we have knowledge
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we also have to
accept that the peace of
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knowledge has
created another dimension
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which we don't know
any thing about. Exactly.
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So more
knowledge the more we know
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we don't know.
Exactly. Then so now suppose
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we put it in a kind
of diagram for instance,
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here's knowledge and
the soon we circle it
00:22:01.31\00:22:05.08
around, the circle
is the, is the interface
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between knowledge
and that we don't know,
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this circle is all
of questions we have
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when you look up
how much knowledge
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we have today
compared to how much
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that was yesterday, the
circle is growing bigger
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so what they're
really describing is the fact
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that the questions
are getting more and more
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and not less and less. Exactly.
00:22:32.75\00:22:35.46
So now comes the
crucial question,
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when is it that
that circle will shrink
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to zero or just
disappear. The only
00:22:43.71\00:22:47.95
theoretical point
is when what is known
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equals
everything that is unknown.
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In another words
we know everything.
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Alright. Now that
really has to be defined
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as infinite
knowledge. We're not there.
00:23:01.66\00:23:05.66
Nobody, the concept
of finite and infinity
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does not allow that,
a billion finite mind
00:23:09.96\00:23:13.68
is not equal to
infinity. Absolutely,
00:23:13.69\00:23:16.61
so that is an
impossibility to reach
00:23:16.62\00:23:20.54
that place,
that's one observation.
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The second
observation really is this,
00:23:22.86\00:23:26.74
we once we ask the
question we recognize
00:23:27.52\00:23:30.05
that we have to reach the place,
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it's called
infinite knowledge we said.
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Right. Another word
is Omniscient. Okay.
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Omniscient does not
belong to our realm,
00:23:41.10\00:23:45.22
it belongs to the
realm of the Gods.
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So we are trying to
describe our position
00:23:48.92\00:23:54.06
in terms of the
positions of a God
00:23:54.07\00:23:57.55
and yet denying
that God of that position
00:23:57.56\00:24:01.08
so when logically
when it's analyzed
00:24:01.09\00:24:05.26
the question that
we will come a place
00:24:05.27\00:24:07.66
where we will be
able to explain everything
00:24:07.67\00:24:10.54
in natural terms
is actually saying
00:24:10.55\00:24:13.45
that we will come to
a place of Omniscient
00:24:13.46\00:24:15.67
meaning A God
state. Now we only have
00:24:15.68\00:24:18.51
the a few moments
left Dr. Pandit let me
00:24:18.52\00:24:20.49
ask you this
question. You searched
00:24:20.50\00:24:23.41
for answer and
examining first is there a God
00:24:23.42\00:24:28.66
what convinced to
other then idea of the
00:24:28.67\00:24:32.01
imperial evidence
or the thing the ideas
00:24:32.02\00:24:33.96
that circumstantial
evidence excuse me,
00:24:33.97\00:24:37.24
that okay we don't
have infinite knowledge
00:24:37.25\00:24:40.73
what convinced you
that yes there has to be
00:24:40.74\00:24:43.98
a God? It was all
three put together,
00:24:43.99\00:24:47.63
we have described
only two, the first was
00:24:47.64\00:24:49.99
circumstantial
evidence and we mentioned
00:24:50.00\00:24:52.75
only number there
the other parts of the
00:24:52.76\00:24:56.10
circumstantial
evidence really is the question
00:24:56.11\00:24:58.90
of conversion
which is a very intense
00:24:58.91\00:25:03.07
emotional experiences
and it's always related
00:25:03.08\00:25:06.31
to God. The third is
a question of designed
00:25:06.32\00:25:09.51
and when we look at
another science called
00:25:10.15\00:25:12.81
archeology I have yet
to meet an archeologist
00:25:12.82\00:25:16.87
who fixed out of his
dig and ornate pillar
00:25:16.88\00:25:21.64
for instance and ever
turn it on and tell me
00:25:21.65\00:25:23.99
it happen by itself.
That's right, there is
00:25:24.00\00:25:27.40
always in that
science and I'm referring
00:25:27.41\00:25:30.24
to a science now in
that science it design
00:25:30.25\00:25:34.49
that a person digs
out always has a designer.
00:25:34.50\00:25:37.42
So these circumstantial
evidences a pretty
00:25:37.43\00:25:39.69
strong then we dig
the logical analysis
00:25:39.70\00:25:43.06
and the Logical
analysis really the proposition
00:25:43.07\00:25:45.73
all those claims were
not really scientific.
00:25:45.74\00:25:49.28
The third one
is what we will do,
00:25:49.29\00:25:51.86
statistical
analysis. Okay. So in the
00:25:51.87\00:25:55.49
two minutes that
we have left basically
00:25:55.50\00:25:57.73
as you began this
search, you decided
00:25:57.74\00:26:01.90
definitely there
was a God. Now you had
00:26:01.91\00:26:05.30
to come down to
the point of which God
00:26:05.31\00:26:09.03
is God as you're
looking at all of the variety
00:26:09.04\00:26:12.87
of religious diversities
that were in your area
00:26:12.88\00:26:16.89
and I know that
you've been a secret
00:26:16.90\00:26:19.90
en-searcher for
20 years, we're going
00:26:19.91\00:26:22.62
to continue, I just
can't wait for you to
00:26:22.63\00:26:24.66
come back and do
another program with us,
00:26:24.67\00:26:26.83
but the idea is that
if you looked at five
00:26:26.84\00:26:32.06
major religions and
examined each one of
00:26:32.07\00:26:37.82
these once that you
were convinced in your heart.
00:26:37.83\00:26:40.48
Yes, there is no
question in my mind
00:26:40.49\00:26:42.41
that there is a God
and now what we're going
00:26:42.42\00:26:45.88
be doing is
talking about those things.
00:26:45.89\00:26:48.26
What do you think how
long did it take you to
00:26:48.27\00:26:51.48
get to that point were you said,
00:26:51.49\00:26:53.10
okay I am
convinced there is a God
00:26:53.11\00:26:55.32
now let me continue the search.
00:26:55.33\00:26:56.88
It took quite a
while maybe a few years.
00:26:56.89\00:27:01.18
So you are really
this. Because I ask
00:27:01.19\00:27:03.41
questions from
every angle that I could
00:27:03.42\00:27:06.19
possibly think of
because I was not doing
00:27:06.20\00:27:09.15
it to convince any
body else but myself,
00:27:09.16\00:27:11.54
it was no use if I
glossed over things,
00:27:11.55\00:27:14.76
I would not come
to any conclusion
00:27:14.77\00:27:16.84
if I glossed over
things. So, I look at
00:27:16.85\00:27:18.46
all the angels
possible and we will still
00:27:18.47\00:27:21.73
talk about this
statistical analysis
00:27:21.74\00:27:23.66
and few other
things and then go on to
00:27:23.67\00:27:26.05
what you were
just describing yes.
00:27:26.06\00:27:27.57
Amen. It was
quite a search that I
00:27:27.58\00:27:29.65
went through I'm
so glad I did. Amen.
00:27:29.66\00:27:32.23
And I am glad you
did as well because what
00:27:32.24\00:27:34.64
Dr. Pandit is doing now
is he is going around to
00:27:34.65\00:27:37.55
various Churches
and then other areas
00:27:37.56\00:27:39.83
and giving these
seminars and having
00:27:39.84\00:27:43.22
tremendous
response to the journey
00:27:43.23\00:27:46.54
that the Lord led
him on in this seeking
00:27:46.55\00:27:48.73
of a truth. I
am so thankful that
00:27:48.74\00:27:51.06
you can join us
please join us next time
00:27:51.07\00:27:53.63
when Dr. Pandit
comes back to share
00:27:53.64\00:27:55.78
some more on Issues And Answers.
00:27:55.79\00:27:58.42