Participants: Karen Thomas, Delbert Baker
Series Code: IAA
Program Code: IAA000080
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00:32 Welcome to Issues and Answers.
00:34 We're very glad that you joined us today. 00:37 I got a question for you. 00:38 What do you think about Christian education? 00:41 What do you think about the cost of Christian education? 00:43 What do you think about the investment required 00:46 to put your children in any school 00:49 where they can learn about the Lord? 00:50 Sometimes you wonder what will be the result of that 00:53 with the money that it caused for private education. 00:57 Does Christian education cost or does it pay? 01:01 Today, we're gonna talk about this subject 01:03 with Dr. Delbert Baker and our topic today, 01:06 I don't want to tell everything about it right now. 01:08 So just follow along with us but the title is 01:11 "From Student to President", his story. 01:13 Welcome to the program, Dr. Baker Delbert. 01:15 Thank you, good to be here. 01:17 So tell me have you always been a Christian? 01:21 I've been a person who is raised in the church. 01:25 I've not always been a Christian admittedly. 01:29 Tell me something about your background from student 01:31 to becoming a president of Oakwood College. 01:34 Well, and I think here, the question you asked about 01:37 have I always been a Christian is key to who I am. 01:42 And I actually had three turning points in my experience 01:45 that finally gave me a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. 01:50 I am one of six children. 01:53 My parents had a knowledge about the Adventist church, 01:56 they were baptized early before I was born. 02:00 And so we have the advantage of being 02:03 in a Seventh-day Adventist church 02:05 but I don't know of it had to do with my upbringing career 02:08 or maybe the time I was living in 02:11 but it was about the law, it really was, 02:13 it was about following the law, it was the Sabbath, 02:15 it was health reform, it was address, 02:19 it was no dancing and no drinking and no smoking. 02:23 That's a wonderful thing, I'm not knocking that 02:25 but Christ was not really central 02:29 as I can recall in my early childhood upbringing. 02:33 I went to school, I went to a church. 02:36 I had smatterings of Christian education 02:38 in my early years can often on 02:40 with six kids living in California. 02:43 I was born in Oakland 02:44 raised in San Marino, Los Angeles area. 02:46 We didn't have a lot of money and so-- 02:48 we were somewhat limited in terms 02:49 of how much exposure we get in the early years. 02:52 But when I was 10 years of age, 02:54 that's my first encounter, that was my denominational turn 02:59 where as like many children in my group 03:01 I was baptized into the Adventist church, 03:04 didn't know much about Christ as a person savior again. 03:08 Knew a smattering of the doctrines, 03:10 pretty much had been raised that way, 03:11 so I did know about them. 03:13 And so that was my first encounter, 03:14 I was a member of the church, 03:16 my name was on the membership list, 03:19 the church roll. 03:21 Well, to me that was good and that it preserved me 03:26 probably from a lot of problems 03:28 I could have fallen into the community 03:30 and I did had that structure. 03:32 But from another sense it created some confusion 03:35 because I heard all these sermons 03:38 and I heard people giving testimonies about 03:40 what it meant to have a life of victory in the life of-- 03:43 the life of freedom in Christ, the more abundant life 03:46 but I didn't know it personally. 03:48 And even at that point I was too young to even realize 03:50 that I didn't know at 10, 11, 12 and so forth 03:53 but as I grow older I wandered a bit 03:56 and I'm one who-- I don't mind sharing some of my detours, 04:03 but I'm a little careful about how much 04:06 we get into and saying, you know, well, I was this, 04:09 I did one, two, three, four, five 04:10 and people looking on. 04:12 I think sometimes the devil can rob our testimony 04:14 and he can try to do some strange things with that 04:17 as well as you don't want to put a bad word out there 04:19 and say well, if this person did that I mean, 04:21 maybe I could do it and come back in. 04:24 So I do think testimonies have a place 04:25 and I do think that we should, we can-- 04:27 there is a proper place to share what we did, 04:31 but I think we just need to be careful. 04:32 So I'm giving that as a little caveat out there 04:35 and while I'm going to all the little, 04:37 trying little details. 04:38 I did wander for a period of 10 years. 04:41 I went to Jamaica, West Indies College 04:43 for part of my academy years. 04:46 Actually I was doing following this period, 04:48 I did some literature evangelism, 04:50 so I was working my way through school. 04:52 Again didn't have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, 04:55 probably the L.A work did more than anything I can think off 04:58 to kind of soften me up to my need of Christ, 05:01 you know how I needed to find him. 05:03 I had to read the Spirit of Prophecy books. 05:05 I was selling these books 05:07 and I really have to come to grips with 05:09 what does it mean to depend on Jesus. 05:11 Now how old were you about this time? 05:12 15, 16. Okay. 05:14 Here in this area and that's why I went to Jamaica, 05:16 I went to West Indies College for about a year 05:18 and I was struggling again 05:21 with the standards of the church. 05:22 I came back to the U.S. went to Oakwood College Academy 05:26 and stayed there for a good period, 05:28 really about a year and a half 05:29 and I was in my senior year that had my second turn. 05:34 I actually was reading, 05:35 this is where I would call my knowledge, 05:37 the first one was the denominational turn 05:41 when I realized I was baptized into the church. 05:43 This one was one that was more of a knowledge call or turn. 05:49 Book of Proverbs 1:20 says, "Wisdom crieth without, 05:52 she uttereth her voice in the streets. 05:54 She crieth in the chief place of concourse, 05:57 in the openings of the gates, in the city 05:59 she uttereth her words, saying, 06:01 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? 06:04 And the scorners delight in their scorning, 06:06 and fools hate knowledge? 06:08 Turn you at my reproof, behold, 06:09 I will pour out my spirit unto you, 06:11 I will make known my words unto you. 06:15 I remember doing my senior year at Oakwood College Academy. 06:19 I was in my room struggling with some issues 06:23 and these words came to mind. 06:25 And I took my Bible and I turned to Proverbs 06:27 and I read those verses and I said, Lord, 06:30 if you can visit him out there somewhere for me, 06:33 if she's crying out in the marketplace, 06:36 why can't I meet her, why can't I come with grips 06:38 what it means to know wisdom? 06:41 And I knew that was about Jesus and I knew that He was the one 06:43 that was the source of wisdom. 06:46 And I was on my knees in my room then I said 06:48 that I wanted Jesus to come and live in my heart 06:51 and I wanted Him to be my Savior, my Lord. 06:53 And it really did answered many of my questions 06:56 and I think that He began to open me 06:58 up to the treasures of wisdom 07:00 that the Bible speaks about 07:01 and having a personal understanding 07:03 of what it means to be a Christian? 07:05 What it means to know Christ as your friend 07:08 and your elder brother and one who is very close to you? 07:12 And I remember very clearly, I took all my records, 07:15 all my music, that wasn't acceptable 07:17 and I broke them off, I broke all the albums 07:20 I had in the little 45s and so forth, 07:23 Back in those days. 07:24 Back in those days, like I mentioned, you know. 07:25 Lot of them don't even know 07:26 what a album was 45 in these days. 07:28 Yeah I know, I know but that was the thing back then. 07:31 And I remember some of my wing mates. 07:35 I told them I've given my heart to Christ 07:37 and they said, man, don't give away your stuff man, 07:38 I had something little cool to minister 07:40 we had in those days that weren't Christian. 07:42 They said give it to me. 07:44 And I said I would never give it away, 07:46 I would just destroy it 07:47 rather than pass it on to somebody else, 07:48 so they would have to carry my weight what I dealt with. 07:52 So that was my second turning point. 07:55 But still I don't think I had it all altogether 07:58 and I was missing an element, I was missing an element 08:01 that was so vital to my experience. 08:03 I had the baptism the denominational side 08:05 I had the idea of one in Christ 08:08 in the knowledge of His word in my life 08:10 and what that meant. 08:12 But I think the turning point came about a year, 08:17 about year and a half later 08:19 when I was attending some meetings in California 08:21 and Morris Venden was the speaker 08:24 and I told Morris this some years ago, 08:26 I don't think he knew it for long time 08:27 and I know him personally and he was speaking in 08:30 and he was talking about righteous by faith 08:34 and he was talking about how, you know, 08:36 we can come to Christ, we can know Him, 08:37 we can know about Him, 08:39 but until we give Him the burden of our experience, 08:41 until we give the battle to Him 08:44 and understand that He accepts us 08:46 regardless of what we do and what we don't do 08:48 and that our acceptance with Christ 08:50 is not based upon how good we are. 08:53 I mean, I can't tell you 08:54 what that meant to me as a young man. 08:57 I mean that was-- I was about 20 years of age. 09:00 It was so profoundly moving to me 09:03 when I realize that what I was-- 09:05 what I was struggling with even after my little experience 09:08 when I was a senior then what I would do 09:09 is I'd go a day or two and if I could do right 09:12 and not do anything wrong 09:13 or not struggle with this or not struggle with that. 09:15 I felt I was okay with Christ. 09:17 Things were okay, I was on the path 09:18 and I was doing okay, 09:20 but when I messed up, I went down in that pit. 09:23 You know, that Bunyan talks about in Pilgrim's Progress 09:26 that pit of despair and I go there, 09:29 and then for day or a two I struggle again, 09:30 I wouldn't want to pray and I won't read the Bible 09:32 because I felt like what you know, 09:33 I've blown it again and this Christ will live with me in, 09:36 and what is it mean to really have a relationship 09:38 when I can't live this perfect life 09:40 that I want to live. 09:41 And the text that Morris was referring to 09:45 and he was part of his message was 1 John 5:11-14 09:51 you know it well. 09:53 "This is the record that God had given to us eternal life 09:56 and His life is in His son, 09:58 He that have the son have the life 09:59 and He that have not the son of God have not life. 10:02 These things have written unto you that 10:04 believe in the name of the son of God 10:06 and you may know 10:07 that you have eternal life that you may know it. 10:09 It doesn't say anything about works in there. 10:11 And I kept saying, where's the Sabbath 10:12 and where's the State of the Dead 10:14 and where is what we do and what we don't do. 10:17 It didn't say it, is if you have Christ, 10:19 you have eternal life and that yee may believe 10:22 in the name of the son of the God 10:23 and this is the confidence that we have in Him. 10:28 I heard that and I had this mixture of joy and disbelief. 10:33 So do you mean it is passport 10:35 that if I give my life fully to Christ 10:38 and I accept Him as my personal savior like I did 10:40 and I allowed His righteousness to cover me 10:42 that I have eternal life 10:44 because of my relationship with Christ. 10:46 And He planted this point in 10:49 and He made it repeatedly as only He can do 10:51 and in His very quiet insisted powerful way 10:54 that's more inventive. 10:56 When it was finished I went up to Him 10:57 and I said but, you know, I said yeah, 11:00 you say that you can have Christ 11:02 and you know you cover with His righteousness 11:05 but if you're not living a good life. 11:07 You know how can you say, 11:08 how can you say you got it together? 11:11 And he said to me is that you're not earning 11:13 your salvation by your good life anyway. 11:15 He said at best, he said at best 11:18 your righteousness is as filthy rag. 11:19 I said, yeah, but I mean we're talking about perfection 11:22 and getting into the point where you can set these things. 11:23 He says, yeah. 11:24 There's a part with it, surely there is he said 11:27 and the more you know Christ 11:28 and the more you are in step with Him 11:30 and the longer you walk with Him 11:32 you'll become more and more like Him he said 11:33 but that's not your salvation 11:35 and it doesn't determine your salvation 11:37 and you can have that peace before you get to that point 11:39 that you want to reach. 11:43 And I started to argue with him, 11:45 I argued with him, I said, no, but I said 11:48 but what if a man goes out and he has a problem 11:49 when he breaks the Sabbath 11:50 or he doesn't have this straight path to going up. 11:54 And Morris said but the Christian 11:55 walketh like this, like up and down. 11:57 He says you're not going straight path 11:59 going all the way up 12:00 or going straight to the top like you want to. 12:02 He said this is the walk with Christ 12:04 and He sticks with you all the way. 12:07 Karen I don't think I've ever, I don't think 12:09 I've ever shared this experience publicly, 12:13 but I remember it hit me as something that was true 12:17 but almost too good to be true. 12:20 And I went from that meeting and I cried 12:23 I just swept like a baby and I-- 12:28 I through my tears, I said, Lord, 12:32 if this is the way you wanted to do it, 12:34 it means that you're trusting me 12:36 enough to be a part of your family 12:38 even before I show all of my good things 12:43 and all of my good merits 12:44 and how good I think I should be for you. 12:49 When the truth of the Lord our righteousness hit me 12:52 that He covers me when I come to Him 12:54 and when I accept Him as my personal savior 12:57 and He's gonna work with me, 12:58 He's the author and finisher of my faith. 13:01 He's going to stick with me all the way through. 13:04 My Lord, I remember I was so overwhelmed 13:07 and that was the turning point, that was the turning point 13:11 the once before that the denominational baptism 13:14 and the knowledge part was 13:16 probably preparing the way for that, 13:19 but it was when I saw Christ as the loving savior 13:22 who accepted me as I am as I was 13:26 and He was willing to work with me 13:27 and stick with me all the way 13:28 through as I wish, that's the case. 13:32 And then I've got the chance, I've got some hope here, 13:34 you know, and it was that infusion 13:37 that knowledge of Christ as my personal savior 13:39 and my righteousness 13:41 that launched me on my Christian experience. 13:44 It was the next year after that 13:46 when I was attending Oakwood College 13:49 that I thought to call the ministry 13:51 and I felt that God was calling me 13:53 from my pre law area, I wanted to be attorney, 13:56 I want to go argue cases and God said 14:00 that He wanted me to argue His case 14:03 and I won't go through all the details, 14:04 but I remember on the Oakwood campus 14:06 that was surrounded by a lot of wonderful friends 14:10 and great spiritual models, spiritual giants 14:13 that I came to grips with this call to ministry, 14:16 this call to special service 14:19 and I must confess to you even at that time 14:22 even though I received following my senior year, 14:25 I received a call into ministry, 14:26 I went to the Allegheny West Conference. 14:29 I never had the opinion 14:30 that I would only be in pastoral ministry. 14:33 I never thought that was the only thing God had for me. 14:36 I see ministry in a broader scope 14:38 not simply the pastor in the church or the one 14:41 who is preaching the word of God. 14:42 I did it for 10 years. 14:43 I did ministry in the pulpit for 10 years as the pastorate. 14:47 I also did 7 years as an editor, 14:50 the editor of Message magazine. 14:52 And now I've been 10, almost 11 years 14:55 in the education ministry, each part was in the ministry 14:58 but not specifically ministry necessarily in the church. 15:01 Well, coming back to that, it was at Oakwood 15:03 that I received my call in ministry 15:05 and some marvelous signs that God gave me 15:07 to substantiate the fact that He was calling me 15:09 and that He had a special work for me to do 15:12 and that was the beginning 15:13 of my professional walk with Jesus Christ 15:16 and it was a wonderful experience 15:18 and it was really at Oakwood College 15:21 and with the wonderful guidance out there. 15:25 I had the privilege of working 15:27 with great people like C. T. Richards, Eric Ward, 15:30 E.E. Cleveland was a dear friend 15:32 and mentor of mine, Charles Brookes, 15:35 I worked with him doing a summary 15:37 in his great meeting in Chicago, Illinois. 15:39 I worked with E.E. Cleveland in a meeting in Houston, Texas 15:43 but problem with the ongoing point was the time 15:46 that I worked with Calvin Moseley as his reader, 15:48 just working on the regular basis, 15:49 these were wonderful things, and Oakwood means a lot to me 15:53 and so lot of my warm memories tie in with that place as well. 15:56 Well, you know, we have a little surprise. 15:58 We have a clip of Oakwood College 16:01 and we like to show that right know. 16:02 I love to see it. 16:08 In the early 1800s, 16:11 these fields were part of a slave plantation. 16:15 The famous slave, Dred Scott, 16:17 whose petition for personal freedom 16:19 captured the attention of the Supreme Court. 16:22 Lived and labored here. 16:25 His wife is believed buried here 16:27 in this slave's cemetery. 16:30 Selected as a score for African-American's in 1895, 16:35 this is state consisted of land, 16:38 slave cabins and a dilapidated manor house. 16:42 From this humble beginning, God has used the consecrated 16:46 ministry of Oakwood College to educate, train 16:49 and inspire young men and women for more than 100 years. 17:03 Three decades after emancipation, 17:06 African-Americans in the south were still deprived 17:08 of equal participation in the economic, 17:11 social and political life of their communities. 17:16 For more than two decades, 17:18 God had impressed Ellen White with the great need 17:20 and potential of people of color in the south. 17:23 Ellen was convinced that the church 17:25 had an obligation to preach the gospel 17:28 and to provide educational opportunities for them. 17:31 There are many, many places in the south 17:33 in which no earnest Christian effort 17:36 has been made for the colored people. 17:39 These unentered fields, in their unsightly barrenness, 17:43 stand before heaven against the unfaithfulness of those 17:47 who have had great light. 17:51 In 1893, Ellen White supported her son Edson 17:55 in building the Morning Star steamer 17:57 that sailed 1, 500 miles down the Mississippi River 18:00 to Vicksburg, Mississippi. 18:03 Edson and his assistants preached the gospel 18:06 and started school for people of color. 18:09 Their mission was dangerous. 18:12 Each day brought fresh challenges and difficulties. 18:16 Yet the seed sown was blessed of God 18:20 and bore abundant fruit. 18:22 In 1895, Edson White also established 18:26 the Southern Missionary Society to foster the work 18:29 among African-Americans in the south. 18:31 It later became the framework 18:33 for the three regional conferences 18:34 in the Southern Union. 18:36 "The Gospel Herald," 18:38 first published on board at the "Morning Star" 18:40 was a forerunner of the Message Magazine. 18:46 Ellen White's vision of an educational training center 18:49 for African-American young people 18:51 was finally realized in 1895. 18:55 General conference leaders G.A. Irwin, O.A. Olsen 18:59 and Harmon Lindsay purchased the former Beasley Estate, 19:03 just outside of Huntsville, Alabama. 19:06 Named for its beautiful oak trees, 19:09 Oakwood industrial school opened, 19:11 November 16th, 1896 19:13 with four teachers and 16 students. 19:18 In regard to the school at Huntsville, 19:20 I wish to say that for the past two or three years, 19:23 I have been receiving instruction regarding it, 19:27 what it should be and what those 19:29 who come here as students are to become. 19:33 This new school soon played a key role in the growth 19:36 of the African-American constituency 19:38 in the Southern Union and throughout the country. 19:41 One of the strengths of Oakwood College 19:44 was a godly faculty. 19:47 Men who lived what they were trying to teach us. 19:52 The curriculum for the training of ministers, 19:56 we actually left here prepared. 19:59 Doctrinally in terms of substance, 20:04 we were told how to be persuasive, 20:08 we were taught the importance of visitation 20:13 and dealing with people 20:15 where they were rather than confining ourselves to pulpit 20:20 and preaching at the people that we did not understand. 20:24 A wave of student merger evangelist 20:26 from Oakwood College witnessed, 20:28 gave Bible studies and flooded to south 20:30 with tracks, magazines and books. 20:33 Many became ministers, 20:35 Bible workers and church school teachers. 20:38 More than 90% of Seventh-day Adventist 20:40 African-American workers received all 20:42 or part of their training at Oakwood College. 20:45 No one could dream unless it was the prophet 20:48 who sit on these grounds. 20:50 And indicated that this school should be put here 20:54 and she didn't go any further. 20:56 So there is no evidence that anybody dreamed 20:59 that it would become influential world wide 21:03 with a multiracial, multinational faculty 21:07 with students from 17 or 18 countries coming here. 21:15 The city fathers are amazed at 21:19 what is happening on this campus. 21:21 And Oakwood has real positive influence out there. 21:25 As Oakwood graduated from a junior college 21:28 to a senior college. 21:29 Its influence on the churches African-American constituency 21:33 was increasingly felt in administration, 21:35 evangelism, education, medicine, public service 21:39 and even the arm forces. 21:41 Oakwood College as do so many of the schools of the prophets, 21:47 makes a number of significant contributions 21:51 to society to the world. 21:53 And now I'm paraphrasing the book 21:55 Education by Ellen White. 21:57 Oakwood first of all contributes by serving 22:00 as a barrier against wide spreading corruption. 22:04 When you think of the backgrounds 22:06 of so many of the African-Americans students 22:09 coming out of inner city surroundings. 22:12 Oakwood is an oasis in the desert. 22:16 I know it was for me. 22:17 Secondly, Oakwood promotes the mental, physical 22:22 and spiritual welfare of young people 22:25 and by spiritual welfare, 22:27 it prepares you not only for this earth 22:30 but for life in the world to come. 22:32 Third, Oakwood provides prosperity to the nation 22:36 and to the world by furnishing it with people 22:40 who are qualified to act with the fear of God 22:44 as leaders and counselors. 22:46 And my responsibility as Navy Chief of Chaplains, 22:49 I advice to secretary of the navy, 22:51 the chief of naval operations, 22:54 the Commandants of the Marine Corps 22:56 and the Coast Guard. 22:57 Oakwood prepared me to do that with competence. 23:03 Oakwood College has entered 23:04 its second century of existence. 23:07 Today's beautiful and spacious campus 23:09 features carefully maintained historical structures 23:12 and modern buildings including the recently 23:15 constructed business and technology complex. 23:18 The Ellen G. White Estate Oakwood branch office 23:21 provides a research facility for the Adventist constituency 23:25 of the Southern Union. 23:26 The leadership education 23:28 for the adult professional degree program 23:30 serves as an innovative opportunity 23:32 for working adults over the age of 25 23:35 to receive a college degree. 23:37 Oakwood College today is technologically driven 23:40 and is included in the U.S. news 23:42 and world reports list of America's best colleges. 23:45 Computer labs and equipment provide training 23:48 and the infrastructure necessary 23:50 to ensure state of the art technology 23:52 in the classroom and throughout the campus. 23:55 Students are engaged in areas of research, 23:58 internships, work opportunities and exchange programs 24:01 partnering with corporations and agencies 24:04 such as NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center. 24:08 New generations of Oakwood College online 24:11 continue to serve their communities 24:13 and churches to the glory of God. 24:16 Our students, whatever field they go into, 24:22 they seem to do well. 24:23 When they go to advance levels of education 24:27 and when it comes to the job market, 24:31 our graduates are very, very popular 24:33 because you know around here we teach Ten Commandments 24:36 and a businessman certainly want somebody 24:38 who is handling his case to be honest 24:40 or at least been trained to do it honestly. 24:42 But it is a fact of record 24:45 that Oakwood College students fare well 24:48 in the secular society and are less likely 24:53 to encounter certain difficulties 24:56 that some of the people with some of the habits have 25:00 because we teach them temperance, 25:02 we teach them not to smoke, we teach them not to drink, 25:06 we teach them individual responsibility 25:08 and all that is at a premium now in today's world. 25:13 There has been laid a foundation 25:15 that will be as enduring as eternity 25:19 and yet all the work that has been done 25:23 is only a beginning. 25:27 To its ongoing pursuit of the vision of its founders, 25:30 Oakwood College remains a brilliant gem of service 25:34 in the institutional mosaic 25:35 of the Seventh-day Adventist church. 25:39 The Morning Star steamer has long vanished. 25:42 However, the bell that announced 25:43 its arrival on the Mississippi river 25:44 many years ago is preserved to this day 25:47 on the campus of Oakwood College. 25:49 This bell symbolizes 25:51 the mission of this great institution 25:53 education, excellence, eternity. 25:58 Oakwood College is a testament 25:59 to the dedication of black and white pioneers 26:01 throughout the world 26:02 and of the explosive transforming power 26:04 of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 26:09 So now we've seen 26:10 the institution, Oakwood College 26:13 and we've learned how you were student. 26:15 Now tell us about it, how it is to be president? 26:18 That's a great honor and a privilege, Karen 26:20 when I was a student back in the 70s. 26:22 Now I'm president starting with 1996 to today 26:27 it's a real honor that God has given me 26:29 the opportunity to go back to Oakwood 26:32 and to allow students to receive the privilege 26:34 of Christian education like I did. 26:37 It's a great gift God has given to 26:40 this church, the Adventist church 26:41 and to the nation at large and to the world. 26:44 The chance for young people to come 26:46 and to meet Christ as a personal savior. 26:49 So you don't have just academics 26:50 but you have a chance to meet the maker of the universe 26:54 and to really infuse in your curriculum 26:57 that service component working for others 26:59 making a difference in the world. 27:01 And not simply preparing for the temporal rewards 27:05 that we get in this life 27:06 that a good education will bring you, 27:08 but also for eternity 27:09 and that's really what it's all about. 27:11 I mean, I found my wife at Oakwood. 27:12 I found my calling to ministry, 27:15 my profession as well as Christ as my personal savior 27:20 and students can receive that. 27:22 Any student who feels blessed of God 27:25 enough to take advantage of the opportunity to go 27:29 to one of our Christian schools as they do it, 27:31 they will never go wrong what they do, 27:33 that is the most wonderful thing 27:35 that they could ever do. 27:36 So I'm a believer in Christian education 27:38 because I know what it did for me 27:39 and I know what it can do for others. 27:41 I was a student, now I'm president. 27:44 They can be a student and God can do 27:46 marvelous things with their life 27:47 whatever that maybe. 27:49 Delbert, thank you so much for coming on the program 27:52 and sharing your testimony from student to president 27:55 and I want to say to our viewers, 27:56 God can do anything in your life, 27:59 just allow Him to. |
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