Welcome to Issues and Answers. 00:00:30.57\00:00:32.32 It's great to have you with us again for another program. 00:00:32.35\00:00:34.46 And for you children who are watching this program will say, 00:00:34.49\00:00:37.52 is there something Issues and Answers for children? 00:00:37.55\00:00:39.56 Yes, today there is. 00:00:39.59\00:00:42.00 Our topic today is money skills for kids, 00:00:42.03\00:00:45.33 something for children, parents, grandparents, 00:00:45.36\00:00:48.71 anyone who has children 00:00:48.74\00:00:50.09 and who wants to learn or who is a child 00:00:50.12\00:00:52.87 and who wants to learn more about how to manage money. 00:00:52.90\00:00:55.53 We're here today talking with Dwain Esmond, 00:00:55.56\00:00:58.33 he is the associated editor for the Message Magazine 00:00:58.36\00:01:01.08 which is a part of their Review and Herald publishing. 00:01:01.11\00:01:03.78 And he is accomplished academician. 00:01:03.81\00:01:08.34 He has an English Literature degree from Oakwood College 00:01:08.37\00:01:11.97 and a master degree in English 00:01:12.00\00:01:13.82 from Pittsburg State University. 00:01:13.85\00:01:15.54 Welcome to the program, Dwayne. 00:01:15.57\00:01:17.27 Thank you for having me again. Good to have you back again. 00:01:17.30\00:01:19.60 Now how all of that qualifies me to talk about 00:01:19.63\00:01:22.32 money skills for kids, I have no idea. 00:01:22.35\00:01:24.81 But we're gonna stretch and make it work today. 00:01:24.84\00:01:26.96 So-- 00:01:26.99\00:01:28.33 No, you wrote a book now I understand 00:01:28.36\00:01:29.98 that's "Beyond the In-A-Pinch God." 00:01:30.01\00:01:32.29 So pinching pennies is also value isn't it? 00:01:32.32\00:01:35.05 Well, little bit about pinching, yes. 00:01:35.08\00:01:36.64 I would know a little bit about that. 00:01:36.67\00:01:38.40 But this money issue, especially involving children 00:01:38.43\00:01:42.92 is something that people ask us about 00:01:42.95\00:01:45.97 especially when they write 00:01:46.00\00:01:47.03 and we have a new column in the magazine called, 00:01:47.06\00:01:49.77 "Let's Talk" which is kind of a parenting column, 00:01:49.80\00:01:52.96 it also deals with relationship issue 00:01:52.99\00:01:55.99 and people often write in and ask about you know, 00:01:56.02\00:02:00.01 hey, how do I get my kids you know, to do such and such 00:02:00.04\00:02:03.20 or to stop begging and you know being very, very-- 00:02:03.23\00:02:06.03 Yeah, asking for money for tours. 00:02:06.06\00:02:08.90 Yes. Now how do I do that? 00:02:08.93\00:02:11.14 So we-- we've been trying to kind of meet that need 00:02:11.17\00:02:15.84 and provide some skills 00:02:15.87\00:02:17.58 and I don't want to just talk about the skills 00:02:17.61\00:02:20.01 and there's something that we talk about more importantly, 00:02:20.04\00:02:22.91 what did kind of principles and kind of standards 00:02:22.94\00:02:26.39 that you want to establish for them to evaluate 00:02:26.42\00:02:29.40 how they use this resource. 00:02:29.43\00:02:32.27 Okay, we'll see I have my note book here 00:02:32.30\00:02:34.85 and I'm ready to take some notes 00:02:34.88\00:02:36.14 because I have ten-year-old and eight-year-old. 00:02:36.17\00:02:38.86 Now, I think you should be doing this not me. 00:02:38.89\00:02:42.26 But actually can I begin by reading a scripture 00:02:42.29\00:02:47.83 that I think is very important? 00:02:47.86\00:02:49.24 It's found 00:02:49.27\00:02:50.30 in the Book of Philippians 4:11. 00:02:50.33\00:02:58.28 The Bible says here, 00:02:58.31\00:02:59.54 the apostle Paul is speaking again, 00:02:59.57\00:03:01.72 "Not that I speak in respect of want for I have learned, 00:03:01.75\00:03:06.95 in whatever state I am, therewith to be content. 00:03:06.98\00:03:11.30 I know both how to be abased, 00:03:11.33\00:03:13.78 and I know how to abound every where and in all things 00:03:13.81\00:03:17.03 I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, 00:03:17.06\00:03:20.57 both to abound and to suffer need." 00:03:20.60\00:03:23.98 And then verse 13, 00:03:24.01\00:03:25.22 the one that we enjoy according so much, 00:03:25.25\00:03:28.32 "I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me." 00:03:28.35\00:03:32.38 Amen. 00:03:32.41\00:03:34.32 We tend to remove verse 13 from the context a little bit 00:03:34.35\00:03:39.11 but the context is, I know how 00:03:39.14\00:03:42.64 or I have learned where God has shown me 00:03:42.67\00:03:44.97 how to be content where I am and in whatever state I am. 00:03:45.00\00:03:49.79 To me it says that Paul understands 00:03:49.82\00:03:51.76 that God owns everything 00:03:51.79\00:03:54.97 and that God apportions things according to His own will 00:03:55.00\00:03:59.39 and at sometimes my portion won't be big 00:03:59.42\00:04:02.57 but it maybe smaller than usual 00:04:02.60\00:04:04.78 and then at other times it may have a lot. 00:04:04.81\00:04:07.08 But in whatever stayed I've learned 00:04:07.11\00:04:08.89 that God is in control of it all 00:04:08.92\00:04:10.58 and that I'm gonna be okay. 00:04:10.61\00:04:12.96 I want to begin there because that to me 00:04:12.99\00:04:16.05 is the essential principle and standard 00:04:16.08\00:04:21.33 that parents must try to somehow 00:04:21.36\00:04:24.18 get across to their children, 00:04:24.21\00:04:26.76 to learn that God is in control of everything 00:04:26.79\00:04:29.36 and how to be content and to abound also. 00:04:29.39\00:04:35.93 You got that? Yeah, we got that. 00:04:35.96\00:04:38.99 All right, what's next? Money skills. 00:04:39.02\00:04:44.45 I should probably begin by talking about myself. 00:04:44.48\00:04:46.58 I remember as a kid, 00:04:46.61\00:04:47.80 my mother used to go to the grocery store 00:04:47.83\00:04:50.29 and buy my tender shoes for school. 00:04:50.32\00:04:53.15 Now I had like a bunch of friends and every kid is 00:04:53.18\00:04:58.65 probably had this, who had everything. 00:04:58.68\00:05:00.10 You know they had that nice shoes that were in it, 00:05:00.13\00:05:02.74 the Nike shoes or the Adidas or whatever 00:05:02.77\00:05:05.62 and I remember man, she would go there 00:05:05.65\00:05:07.86 and my shoes will be in a big bin you know 00:05:07.89\00:05:11.32 and she'd have to find one side 00:05:11.35\00:05:14.93 and then dig around and route around 00:05:14.96\00:05:16.55 and there find another side and it was traumatic. 00:05:16.58\00:05:18.42 I'm laughing because I remember though. 00:05:18.45\00:05:20.68 I mean that is, that is-- 00:05:20.71\00:05:21.74 All the tender shoes that has little whites on the top of it. 00:05:21.77\00:05:24.29 Yes. Oh you remember that. 00:05:24.32\00:05:26.62 So when I went to school everybody knew 00:05:26.65\00:05:29.67 where I got my shoes from. 00:05:29.70\00:05:31.54 And I remember just feeling like, man, when I get older 00:05:31.57\00:05:34.91 and I get to hold of some money I'm just gonna buy 00:05:34.94\00:05:37.52 that most expensive, that most in shoe 00:05:37.55\00:05:40.75 that I could find and I did that. 00:05:40.78\00:05:42.88 You know, when I started working as a teenager 00:05:42.91\00:05:44.69 or whatever you know, all my money was just going to things 00:05:44.72\00:05:47.79 and I was thinking to myself you know lately, 00:05:47.82\00:05:51.63 Dwain, some of the habits that you have now, 00:05:51.66\00:05:54.82 that you're struggling to break financially bad habits, 00:05:54.85\00:05:58.53 bad financial practices began when you were child. 00:05:58.56\00:06:02.23 You know because you perhaps 00:06:02.26\00:06:03.52 wanted something that you could not have. 00:06:03.55\00:06:06.92 So that started me thinking and then with the questions 00:06:06.95\00:06:10.64 that we get from parents and guardians 00:06:10.67\00:06:12.43 sometimes is that you know, 00:06:12.46\00:06:13.94 there must be a need out there and how do we equip parents? 00:06:13.97\00:06:17.88 So how do you communicate something like, 00:06:17.91\00:06:20.59 contentment to your child? 00:06:20.62\00:06:22.72 Any ideas? 00:06:22.75\00:06:25.95 Contentment in my estimation, 00:06:25.98\00:06:29.67 say for instance if your child wants something 00:06:29.70\00:06:32.34 that's extremely important to them. 00:06:32.37\00:06:38.01 Something that may cost a little bit. 00:06:38.04\00:06:40.74 I think it's important to not only have the child work 00:06:40.77\00:06:44.31 and somehow contribute to that thing, 00:06:44.34\00:06:46.18 I think that's a very important principle. 00:06:46.21\00:06:48.49 But I think it's also important to perhaps steer kids 00:06:48.52\00:06:53.43 in the direction of toys or things 00:06:53.46\00:06:58.15 that they purchase being more interactive, 00:06:58.18\00:07:01.34 something that they could not only enjoy for today 00:07:01.37\00:07:04.51 but that they will learn to enjoy 00:07:04.54\00:07:06.63 and create other uses for in the future. 00:07:06.66\00:07:10.64 And I think some parents-- 00:07:10.67\00:07:15.55 and parents you know, I want to be clear here, 00:07:15.58\00:07:17.92 parents have a tough job as it is. 00:07:17.95\00:07:21.47 They are working hard, 00:07:21.50\00:07:22.77 they are trying to make ends meet 00:07:22.80\00:07:24.31 so I don't even want to, 00:07:24.34\00:07:26.31 someone who is not even a parent yet, who am I? 00:07:26.34\00:07:28.37 I'm not qualified to tell parents what to do. 00:07:28.40\00:07:30.45 I bet you grew up. 00:07:30.48\00:07:31.54 But I think I understand growing up. 00:07:31.57\00:07:33.97 I could speak through that, right? 00:07:34.00\00:07:37.07 I think it's important that parents give the children 00:07:37.10\00:07:40.80 or allow their kids to get things 00:07:40.83\00:07:43.25 and learn how to be creative with the things that they have. 00:07:43.28\00:07:49.11 And you know, its, you can buy things at different stages 00:07:49.14\00:07:53.03 but if they have everything right now 00:07:53.06\00:07:55.66 they will never learn the issue or the principle of contentment 00:07:55.69\00:08:00.19 because as we know things make us want more things. 00:08:00.22\00:08:04.00 You'll never satisfy by the things that you get. 00:08:04.03\00:08:07.71 By the way, adults are the same way. 00:08:07.74\00:08:09.86 I wonder where they got it from? 00:08:09.89\00:08:11.19 Where do they get it from? Where do we get from? 00:08:11.22\00:08:12.70 Where do we get that from? 00:08:12.73\00:08:14.10 But the same kind of principle holds so one of that-- 00:08:14.13\00:08:16.89 Being creative. Being creative. 00:08:16.92\00:08:18.73 So now give us an example of way 00:08:18.76\00:08:23.45 that to teach children or that children 00:08:23.48\00:08:27.19 who maybe watching the program could develop this contentment, 00:08:27.22\00:08:32.04 by they having some future use. 00:08:32.07\00:08:33.86 I have, I have two nephews 00:08:33.89\00:08:38.79 and one of them is extremely creative. 00:08:38.82\00:08:43.39 He has a very creative fertile mind. 00:08:43.42\00:08:46.51 And he has these play things that he enjoys, 00:08:46.54\00:08:49.27 some of the kids might even recognize 00:08:49.30\00:08:52.23 this building set is called connects. 00:08:52.26\00:08:55.25 And kids, I mean kids 00:08:55.28\00:08:58.16 must love this stuff and he loves it. 00:08:58.19\00:09:00.44 He can make all kinds of different things with that. 00:09:00.47\00:09:03.33 I mean, he can make trucks 00:09:03.36\00:09:04.97 and he can make airplanes and he can-- 00:09:05.00\00:09:07.24 you know, kind of like building blocks on steroids 00:09:07.27\00:09:10.32 you know, you can do everything with this stuff. 00:09:10.35\00:09:12.81 Now he is, he can get everything 00:09:12.84\00:09:18.85 and I'm glad that, you know, he's not able to get everything 00:09:18.88\00:09:23.21 because he has learned 00:09:23.24\00:09:24.87 and his little brother is learning 00:09:24.90\00:09:27.02 how to be creative with the sets that they have. 00:09:27.05\00:09:30.95 Now after a while he have-- 00:09:30.98\00:09:33.23 Yeah, those connects or not cheap. 00:09:33.26\00:09:35.30 They are not cheap. 00:09:35.33\00:09:37.51 So if you're gonna buy them one every week, okay. 00:09:37.54\00:09:39.97 You'd be out of luck. You'd be in a poor house, okay. 00:09:40.00\00:09:42.58 But he has learned 00:09:42.61\00:09:45.39 how to create different things over time 00:09:45.42\00:09:48.78 and as he grows and as his mind matures 00:09:48.81\00:09:51.03 they get more complex and that's the kind of gift 00:09:51.06\00:09:53.69 I'm talking about something 00:09:53.72\00:09:55.56 that increases his capacity for creativity 00:09:55.59\00:09:58.22 and that capacity will help them in future. 00:09:58.25\00:10:00.53 Well it's quite better than get in a bunch of little matched 00:10:00.56\00:10:03.04 box toys or cars, maybe for two bucks 00:10:03.07\00:10:07.49 and you would get into something may be there 00:10:07.52\00:10:11.12 though it maybe more money on the front end of it. 00:10:11.15\00:10:13.14 Right. 00:10:13.17\00:10:14.20 He's gonna have hours of creativity 00:10:14.23\00:10:15.52 that much from there. 00:10:15.55\00:10:16.58 Hours, days and you won't have to worry about 00:10:16.61\00:10:20.85 you know, next week till he is tired of it 00:10:20.88\00:10:23.09 and throwing into the side 00:10:23.12\00:10:24.15 and this also points out another important thing here 00:10:24.18\00:10:28.44 and that's that some kids have different temperaments. 00:10:28.47\00:10:31.19 So not, not every child will you know, 00:10:31.22\00:10:34.00 want to be creative all the time 00:10:34.03\00:10:36.35 but because of the world in which we live, 00:10:36.38\00:10:38.80 a world that now values creativity 00:10:38.83\00:10:42.94 and adoptability in focus on careers 00:10:42.97\00:10:47.49 and that sort of thing you have to be flexible. 00:10:47.52\00:10:50.43 I think that's an important skill 00:10:50.46\00:10:52.55 in addition to the contentment which is learned 00:10:52.58\00:10:54.73 that's an important skill to communicate to kids today. 00:10:54.76\00:10:58.83 That's one way I think to teach contentment. 00:10:58.86\00:11:01.50 Another principle I take that has to be taught 00:11:01.53\00:11:04.09 is the principle of sharing. 00:11:04.12\00:11:09.23 I grew up-- Very important skill. 00:11:09.26\00:11:11.20 Yeah. 00:11:11.23\00:11:12.26 I grew up in a family, now I have three elder brothers 00:11:12.29\00:11:16.75 and I have a baby sister, she is the youngest, four, 00:11:16.78\00:11:20.42 she has four older brothers. 00:11:20.45\00:11:23.73 I feel sorry for her 00:11:23.76\00:11:25.16 but its like sharing was something 00:11:25.19\00:11:29.86 that we had to learn, we didn't have much. 00:11:29.89\00:11:32.25 So my oldest brother would get a shirt 00:11:32.28\00:11:37.02 and it would come all the way down the line. 00:11:37.05\00:11:39.27 I mean it would come down whether you want it or not 00:11:39.30\00:11:41.46 you know, it came down the line. 00:11:41.49\00:11:43.14 You knew you were gonna wear that shirt. 00:11:43.17\00:11:45.03 So if you let cool on him you hope 00:11:45.06\00:11:47.25 that it still had a print or a pattern 00:11:47.28\00:11:49.71 when it got to you. 00:11:49.74\00:11:51.02 You know, because it'd be washed out and whatever 00:11:51.05\00:11:53.68 but you were kind of forced to learn this thing of sharing 00:11:53.71\00:11:57.90 but when you became independent, 00:11:57.93\00:12:01.67 had your own stuff, you know, 00:12:01.70\00:12:05.65 I wasn't always ready to be as sharing oriented because now 00:12:05.68\00:12:11.06 I was tired of just getting things that were not mine. 00:12:11.09\00:12:13.57 So when I got of hold of something that was mine, 00:12:13.60\00:12:15.82 it's mine and that's it. 00:12:15.85\00:12:17.56 But one of the great ways 00:12:17.59\00:12:19.73 I think parents can teach kids about the value 00:12:19.76\00:12:23.69 and the ability to use money for good 00:12:23.72\00:12:26.96 is through sharing projects 00:12:26.99\00:12:28.43 that churches maybe involved with. 00:12:28.46\00:12:31.47 When you know, someone stands up or in front and says 00:12:31.50\00:12:34.98 we have a need in the church or our community has a need 00:12:35.01\00:12:38.69 and we would like to contribute to it 00:12:38.72\00:12:40.77 often the kids get divorced from that process. 00:12:40.80\00:12:46.36 The parents and the adults take over. 00:12:46.39\00:12:50.11 They give the money. 00:12:50.14\00:12:54.04 They put the money in and in essence 00:12:54.07\00:12:56.74 we miss an opportunity with the kids 00:12:56.77\00:12:58.84 because if you are per say giving them an allowance 00:12:58.87\00:13:03.41 you can teach them to designate 00:13:03.44\00:13:06.25 some of that allowance for their children. 00:13:06.28\00:13:09.02 I mean for this need 00:13:09.05\00:13:10.76 some of their allowance for their special need 00:13:10.79\00:13:13.12 that the church or the community is having. 00:13:13.15\00:13:15.22 And so doing it we teach the principle of service 00:13:15.25\00:13:18.64 and you teach the principle of sharing 00:13:18.67\00:13:20.80 and you teach the principle that God owns everything 00:13:20.83\00:13:23.92 and that is not all mine 00:13:23.95\00:13:26.82 which I think is extremely important. 00:13:26.85\00:13:28.47 So the idea of connecting an allowance 00:13:28.50\00:13:31.67 is something that the child can plan on, 00:13:31.70\00:13:33.89 may stop some of the spontaneous 00:13:33.92\00:13:36.18 requesting in the store you know, 00:13:36.21\00:13:37.63 you're giving so much every week or whatever. 00:13:37.66\00:13:41.06 Which is a terrific skill for, easily learned. 00:13:41.09\00:13:46.84 Yeah. 00:13:46.87\00:13:47.90 You know, if you give your kids a very simple allowance, 00:13:47.93\00:13:51.55 incidentally I found out, now this is interesting, 00:13:51.58\00:13:55.78 in Michigan, I think it's the Michigan area 00:13:55.81\00:14:00.02 kids get some of the highest allowances in the nation. 00:14:00.05\00:14:04.71 Now this is weird. Is that so? 00:14:04.74\00:14:05.77 I grew up in Michigan. 00:14:05.80\00:14:08.26 Did you get-- did you get-- 00:14:08.29\00:14:09.32 Oh, what are we better bargain here? 00:14:09.35\00:14:10.53 Did you get $100, $150 a week? Oh, no, not. 00:14:10.56\00:14:14.64 Well, that's what kids are getting today. 00:14:14.67\00:14:16.58 Some kids are getting $100 a week. 00:14:16.61\00:14:21.25 But there are high incomes with the lot of you know 00:14:21.28\00:14:23.74 you got the all the dealerships 00:14:23.77\00:14:25.90 you know many factories that are there. 00:14:25.93\00:14:28.56 Some of the needs maybe, maybe a little different. 00:14:28.59\00:14:29.72 Well, a kids been a $150, you said a week? 00:14:29.75\00:14:32.45 Some of them get a $100 a week and I want to know 00:14:32.48\00:14:35.33 why their parents are not giving them more. 00:14:35.36\00:14:38.72 The spending power of this kids between the, 00:14:38.75\00:14:44.33 from, the cradle almost to about teenage hood 00:14:44.36\00:14:49.99 the spending power is over a $100 billion. 00:14:50.02\00:14:53.29 And that's counting-- that's just the money 00:14:53.32\00:14:55.27 that they have that's not counting 00:14:55.30\00:14:57.08 the influence that they exert on the families purchases. 00:14:57.11\00:15:02.69 Now that's a whole different bowl of wax, right? 00:15:02.72\00:15:07.03 I never quiet thought of it that way but it's true. 00:15:07.06\00:15:09.58 But when you go into a store with your children 00:15:09.61\00:15:12.55 they influence their nag, right. 00:15:12.58\00:15:14.97 I mean I'm talking about things I did. 00:15:15.00\00:15:16.03 And they used to put the request through, 00:15:16.06\00:15:19.90 well, as long as you are in this 00:15:19.93\00:15:21.64 then there is a famous pitch number into the basket. 00:15:21.67\00:15:24.13 Yes. 00:15:24.16\00:15:25.19 You know and kids will not let you rest. 00:15:25.22\00:15:27.87 I mean, you go to the grocery store and you get in a, 00:15:27.90\00:15:29.95 you get in a cereal aisle, you know, 00:15:29.98\00:15:31.21 you could be in a cereal aisle for hours. 00:15:31.24\00:15:32.90 You know, they want this, this and this 00:15:32.93\00:15:35.09 and parents basically brake down and give in. 00:15:35.12\00:15:38.59 So if we're talking about teaching them these principles 00:15:38.62\00:15:42.31 maybe it'll save you some headache you know later on 00:15:42.34\00:15:45.53 but the kids have tremendous spending power today and they-- 00:15:45.56\00:15:50.22 if you're giving them a consistent allowance 00:15:50.25\00:15:53.92 10% of that ought to go for tithe 00:15:53.95\00:15:57.48 and 10% of that ought to go for offering. 00:15:57.51\00:16:01.04 You know that's another thing it's not just tithe 00:16:01.07\00:16:04.27 but what-- the offerings, as my wife likes to say, 00:16:04.30\00:16:08.43 my wife is a finance Google type person 00:16:08.46\00:16:10.76 so she says to me the offering demonstrates our love. 00:16:10.79\00:16:16.10 You know the tithes we return but the offering says 00:16:16.13\00:16:19.89 how much we love the Lord in a sense you know. 00:16:19.92\00:16:23.21 So to teach your kids not just how to tithe 00:16:23.24\00:16:26.94 but how to provide something for an offering 00:16:26.97\00:16:30.08 and then there's the issue of savings. 00:16:30.11\00:16:33.51 10% ought to go for savings. 00:16:33.54\00:16:37.86 This principle of paying yourself 00:16:37.89\00:16:40.90 is so important for kids to learn 00:16:40.93\00:16:44.22 because if you don't learn, 00:16:44.25\00:16:46.03 if you don't get into a consistent savings pattern 00:16:46.06\00:16:48.98 and we're told now in our society that 00:16:49.01\00:16:51.80 we don't even save 2% of our income. 00:16:51.83\00:16:56.89 Not even 2%. 00:16:56.92\00:16:58.51 Let alone 10% of our income 00:16:58.54\00:17:00.79 but we are maxed out 10 years ago, 00:17:00.82\00:17:05.33 credit card debts to that around $250 billion. 00:17:05.36\00:17:09.27 You have any idea what it is today? 00:17:09.30\00:17:12.44 It's about $750 billion that was just 10 years ago 00:17:12.47\00:17:17.56 and we are basically putting ourselves into the grave 00:17:17.59\00:17:21.20 because we have no grasp 00:17:21.23\00:17:25.63 of how to control our financial lives. 00:17:25.66\00:17:27.97 The Bible says, "Owe no man anything but love." 00:17:28.00\00:17:32.93 And in our society, yes, credit and that sort of thing 00:17:32.96\00:17:35.62 is kind of a necessary evil to some degree 00:17:35.65\00:17:38.41 but imagine if you taught your kids 00:17:38.44\00:17:41.00 that if you consistently save 00:17:41.03\00:17:45.08 and you were content with what you had 00:17:45.11\00:17:47.34 and you gave the Lord what was His, 00:17:47.37\00:17:50.36 imagine how much better of they might be later on at all. 00:17:50.39\00:17:55.01 So that's important. 00:17:55.04\00:17:56.25 That whole principle is extremely important. 00:17:56.28\00:18:00.12 The principle of thankfulness, for what God has given 00:18:00.15\00:18:06.19 whenever you give something to your children 00:18:06.22\00:18:10.27 whether it be money or not 00:18:10.30\00:18:13.30 I think the parent should gauge the thankfulness. 00:18:13.33\00:18:17.75 What is their response? 00:18:17.78\00:18:19.01 Do they say, mom, "Thank you very much." 00:18:19.04\00:18:22.16 Do they say, "Oh, good," and run off, you know, 00:18:22.19\00:18:28.27 are they thankful, will they come back and say, you know, 00:18:28.30\00:18:31.31 "Hey, that really thank you ma, I really needed that." 00:18:31.34\00:18:34.61 And you know kids learn these things over time 00:18:34.64\00:18:36.15 so we're not gonna expect the ten, five-year-old 00:18:36.18\00:18:38.22 or seven-year-old to come back with a deep, you know, 00:18:38.25\00:18:41.84 path holes in his voice thanking you. 00:18:41.87\00:18:44.50 You won't expect that but they do need to thank you 00:18:44.53\00:18:48.81 and they need to also realize 00:18:48.84\00:18:50.83 that mom and dad didn't get this 00:18:50.86\00:18:53.12 from the man at the place where they worked. 00:18:53.15\00:18:57.53 God is the person who supplies the needs in the home 00:18:57.56\00:19:02.87 and who will supply this amount of money that you can now have. 00:19:02.90\00:19:07.91 And what about that Bible example about the 10 lepers? 00:19:07.94\00:19:13.60 Nine ran away. Excellent example. 00:19:13.63\00:19:15.14 Excellent example. Nine ran away one came back. 00:19:15.17\00:19:20.36 And if I would dare say that the same ratio 00:19:20.39\00:19:23.64 holds in our society today most people are not thankful. 00:19:23.67\00:19:28.56 Because we always feel like we don't have enough. 00:19:28.59\00:19:31.57 What do I have to be thankful for? 00:19:31.60\00:19:33.84 One of the great skills that I think you can give your kids 00:19:33.87\00:19:36.83 is each week have them just, at the end of the week, 00:19:36.86\00:19:40.68 this could be a great little Friday night activity, 00:19:40.71\00:19:43.02 you just pull out a pad 00:19:43.05\00:19:44.81 and have them make a list of things 00:19:44.84\00:19:47.10 that happened this week that they are thankful for. 00:19:47.13\00:19:51.74 What are you thankful for this week? 00:19:51.77\00:19:53.97 You know, if and you may have to remind them, 00:19:54.00\00:19:57.98 you know, hey, do you remember that 00:19:58.01\00:19:59.09 I gave you $10, do you remember that? 00:19:59.12\00:20:02.90 It might be gone by now but do you remember that. 00:20:02.93\00:20:05.44 You know, in so doing they learn 00:20:05.47\00:20:10.03 to always remember that things 00:20:10.06\00:20:12.29 they will not take stuff they get for granted, 00:20:12.32\00:20:15.17 they will remember that these things 00:20:15.20\00:20:16.55 come from the Lord all the time. 00:20:16.58\00:20:19.13 So that's the thankfulness thing 00:20:19.16\00:20:21.84 is a great principle that they have to learn 00:20:21.87\00:20:26.69 and there is also the issue of teaching them 00:20:26.72\00:20:30.50 kind of how to deal with investments. 00:20:30.53\00:20:34.45 There are some people 00:20:34.48\00:20:37.06 who don't kind of share this view 00:20:37.09\00:20:40.19 and I respect that investment 00:20:40.22\00:20:42.96 is a principle that's in the Bible also. 00:20:42.99\00:20:45.55 I mean, we are told for instance 00:20:45.58\00:20:47.47 to take the talents that God gives us, 00:20:47.50\00:20:50.08 Ellen White even mentions the fact that talent is-- 00:20:50.11\00:20:54.00 money is a talent that is to be used for God service 00:20:54.03\00:20:58.56 and that's the key to be used for God service. 00:20:58.59\00:21:02.61 You can meet your needs 00:21:02.64\00:21:04.46 but it's also to be used for God's service. 00:21:04.49\00:21:08.48 One of the very easy ways that kind of teach our kids 00:21:08.51\00:21:10.73 this principle is have them 00:21:10.76\00:21:12.65 perhaps start an investment club 00:21:12.68\00:21:15.01 where they can put, take little bits of money 00:21:15.04\00:21:19.72 and learn how to track socially responsible stocks. 00:21:19.75\00:21:25.25 For instance companies and these funds are out there, 00:21:25.28\00:21:28.18 they are mutual funds for kids and that's sort of thing. 00:21:28.21\00:21:31.18 I mean, you can go on any internet financial site 00:21:31.21\00:21:34.29 and they have them, where you can, 00:21:34.32\00:21:37.06 kids can learn the time value of money. 00:21:37.09\00:21:40.60 For instance, if you put money in over a period of time 00:21:40.63\00:21:44.44 it can grow and become something else. 00:21:44.47\00:21:47.27 That teaches them not only about their savings, 00:21:47.30\00:21:49.64 how their savings can grow but also how you know, 00:21:49.67\00:21:52.95 if you investing in certain companies 00:21:52.98\00:21:55.47 and if they do all over time 00:21:55.50\00:21:56.66 and again socially responsible investments. 00:21:56.69\00:22:00.14 We're not talking about companies that you know, 00:22:00.17\00:22:03.95 tobacco companies for instance 00:22:03.98\00:22:05.64 I would not recommend something like that. 00:22:05.67\00:22:07.74 You can find out what different mutual funds 00:22:07.77\00:22:10.76 hold in their portfolios, these kind of things 00:22:10.79\00:22:13.71 are kind of good for kids to learn 00:22:13.74\00:22:15.27 because this is the world and in which they live. 00:22:15.30\00:22:17.56 If you just kind of cloister them from it 00:22:17.59\00:22:20.11 I think you do them a little bit of disservice 00:22:20.14\00:22:23.02 even if you don't believe in it. 00:22:23.05\00:22:24.89 Now it makes me think about when we were, 00:22:24.92\00:22:26.45 when I was in a business school 00:22:26.48\00:22:27.92 they had us an exercise in it for students 00:22:27.95\00:22:29.84 do not have any money to invest or you know, 00:22:29.87\00:22:32.59 or maybe before we actually do 00:22:32.62\00:22:34.44 put the money somewhere either it was in land which you know, 00:22:34.47\00:22:38.44 a lot of people would prefer to put their money in the land 00:22:38.47\00:22:40.94 or into real estate or may be into business enterprise 00:22:40.97\00:22:44.43 that we would actually 00:22:44.46\00:22:45.50 take the Wall Street Journal out and do the math. 00:22:45.53\00:22:49.59 And you know, you maybe what to just have okay 00:22:49.62\00:22:51.71 I'm pretending that I have this much money 00:22:51.74\00:22:54.01 and does this look like a good investment 00:22:54.04\00:22:55.81 because people get so lured into you know 00:22:55.84\00:22:58.82 going into certain kinds of speculative investments 00:22:58.85\00:23:03.07 and then they have put the money in 00:23:03.10\00:23:04.86 before they've actually gone 00:23:04.89\00:23:05.92 through the exercise to the even see 00:23:05.95\00:23:08.08 you know, some wondering, you know. 00:23:08.11\00:23:10.07 Oh, absolutely. 00:23:10.10\00:23:12.38 The research piece that teaches you, you know, 00:23:12.41\00:23:15.97 how to track something before getting involved. 00:23:16.00\00:23:20.14 You know, I've, I think all of us 00:23:20.17\00:23:23.60 have been approached by people 00:23:23.63\00:23:25.41 who have some scheme that's gonna make you 00:23:25.44\00:23:28.67 a bunch of money in a short period of time. 00:23:28.70\00:23:30.99 Have you had that? 00:23:31.02\00:23:32.05 Offshore banking and other things from-- 00:23:32.08\00:23:34.36 Oh, yeah. 00:23:34.39\00:23:35.42 All kinds of stuff, people have got 00:23:35.45\00:23:36.83 you know, this product-- 00:23:36.86\00:23:37.89 Not that there is anything wrong 00:23:37.92\00:23:39.03 with offshore banking in other places, you want to say that? 00:23:39.06\00:23:41.28 No, not exactly wrong with that, okay. 00:23:41.31\00:23:43.40 There's a people are more speculative than magical. 00:23:43.43\00:23:46.31 Very, very speculative 00:23:46.34\00:23:47.65 and it's very challenging to navigate that 00:23:47.68\00:23:52.16 if you don't have the right skill set. 00:23:52.19\00:23:56.51 People are coming at you and they are saying 00:23:56.54\00:23:58.25 I've got this product, it's great. 00:23:58.28\00:24:01.31 We can multilevel market it 00:24:01.34\00:24:03.14 and we can make do-- we can make our live bets. 00:24:03.17\00:24:07.53 Some people don't know how to evaluate that, 00:24:07.56\00:24:12.09 that opportunity if you call it had. 00:24:12.12\00:24:16.38 And in so doing they lose their shirts 00:24:16.41\00:24:19.51 you know, they lose a lot of money and-- 00:24:19.54\00:24:22.10 Even 401(k) plan 00:24:22.13\00:24:23.49 which people have on their business 00:24:23.52\00:24:25.47 in their some employers have they may say okay 00:24:25.50\00:24:28.62 we're gonna give you a 401(k) plan 00:24:28.65\00:24:31.52 and they're basically investing parts of that 00:24:31.55\00:24:35.34 into other these sort of pools or whatever. 00:24:35.37\00:24:36.86 Right and you've got to be careful 00:24:36.89\00:24:39.12 and be hands on to know for sure 00:24:39.15\00:24:42.42 you know, to be proactive 00:24:42.45\00:24:44.00 so that you know for sure that they are investing 00:24:44.03\00:24:46.01 where you want your money to go. 00:24:46.04\00:24:48.46 But if you think of a kid who's never been taught 00:24:48.49\00:24:53.40 these kind of financial skills attempting to-- 00:24:53.43\00:24:56.24 How to run a business for example. 00:24:56.27\00:24:57.59 Yeah, to navigate something like that is just, 00:24:57.62\00:25:00.53 it's almost impossible. 00:25:00.56\00:25:02.33 So this is like essential equipment for life, I feel. 00:25:02.36\00:25:09.16 That sounds good to me. 00:25:09.19\00:25:10.92 As for review for those 00:25:10.95\00:25:12.47 who maybe just joined this program and progress, 00:25:12.50\00:25:16.69 God is in control is what you said. 00:25:16.72\00:25:19.15 And maybe you want to give us 00:25:19.18\00:25:20.59 some recap of what we talked about. 00:25:20.62\00:25:22.28 Well, I talked about the fact of that God 00:25:22.31\00:25:24.13 was in control of everything 00:25:24.16\00:25:25.89 and I mentioned the text Philippians 4 00:25:25.92\00:25:29.15 beginning in verse 11 and going to verse 13, 00:25:29.18\00:25:32.33 learning the essential principle of contentment 00:25:32.36\00:25:37.33 in whatever state that we are 00:25:37.36\00:25:39.57 and we talked a little bit about how we might be 00:25:39.60\00:25:41.24 able to communicate that to our children. 00:25:41.27\00:25:44.33 We also talked about sharing 00:25:44.36\00:25:46.47 the importance of that principle in everything 00:25:46.50\00:25:50.93 that you give your children 00:25:50.96\00:25:52.92 they ought to be some portion of it that, 00:25:52.95\00:25:55.06 you know, they set aside for someone else. 00:25:55.09\00:25:57.39 The principle of tithes and offering 00:25:57.42\00:25:59.65 that's an important consideration, 00:25:59.68\00:26:01.50 probably should be one of the highest one, 00:26:01.53\00:26:03.02 should be the first amount pulled out. 00:26:03.05\00:26:05.50 We talked about thankfulness. 00:26:05.53\00:26:08.49 Making sure engaging and encouraging activities 00:26:08.52\00:26:12.67 that kids where your children can look back and see 00:26:12.70\00:26:16.69 over the course of say a week or so 00:26:16.72\00:26:18.76 the things that God has done for them 00:26:18.79\00:26:20.18 not only financially but in other ways 00:26:20.21\00:26:22.37 where that they are thankful for. 00:26:22.40\00:26:25.65 Those were some of the principles 00:26:25.68\00:26:26.83 and skills that we try to communicate. 00:26:26.86\00:26:29.74 Well, for those of you who watch the program today 00:26:29.77\00:26:31.46 I hope you've learned something I know that I have 00:26:31.49\00:26:33.31 that I've taken careful notes but if for some reason 00:26:33.34\00:26:37.15 you didn't have your pen and paper handy 00:26:37.18\00:26:38.91 you can very much get a copy of the program today 00:26:38.94\00:26:41.62 by calling that 800 number on your screen 00:26:41.65\00:26:44.44 or you can also go to the website 00:26:44.47\00:26:46.35 and know more about these publications 00:26:46.38\00:26:48.34 Message Magazine and Insight. 00:26:48.37\00:26:50.55 The website is www.insightmagazine.org 00:26:50.58\00:26:54.81 this is a magazine dedicated to young people 00:26:54.84\00:26:57.25 to teach them about Christ as well as life skills 00:26:57.28\00:26:59.83 that we've talked about today and Message Magazine 00:26:59.86\00:27:02.59 there is a section in Message magazine 00:27:02.62\00:27:04.61 called message junior which highlights 00:27:04.64\00:27:06.73 a lot of nicknames for kids so to encourage. 00:27:06.76\00:27:10.74 A lot of these kinds of principles we talked. 00:27:10.77\00:27:11.80 Okay. 00:27:11.83\00:27:12.86 Oh great and let's have a closing prayer 00:27:12.89\00:27:14.18 if you would please, doing. 00:27:14.21\00:27:15.25 Absolutely. 00:27:15.28\00:27:17.59 Our Father and our God, 00:27:17.62\00:27:18.72 we thank You so much for this privilege of sharing 00:27:18.75\00:27:22.88 on an issue that is so important. 00:27:22.91\00:27:26.45 Lord, You gave us the resources, 00:27:26.48\00:27:29.24 everything on this planet is Yours 00:27:29.27\00:27:32.00 and we pray that we might be able to communicate 00:27:32.03\00:27:34.49 to our children to those around us 00:27:34.52\00:27:37.36 how to correctly use the resources 00:27:37.39\00:27:39.55 that You have gave us. 00:27:39.58\00:27:41.35 Bless us and keep us until You come 00:27:41.38\00:27:44.01 as I pray in Jesus name, amen. 00:27:44.04\00:27:46.52 Amen. 00:27:46.55\00:27:47.58 Thank you so much for coming to our program today, 00:27:47.61\00:27:49.62 it's been a blessing. 00:27:49.65\00:27:51.29 And for those of you who've been watching at home 00:27:51.32\00:27:53.12 we hope it has been a blessing for you as well 00:27:53.15\00:27:55.58 and until next time have a great day. 00:27:55.61\00:27:57.51