Good day, friends, and welcome
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to another edition
of "Issues and Answers."
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You do not want
to miss this program,
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especially if you are man
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and especially
if you know a man.
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Today we have as
our special guest
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Dr. Joseph Warren,
of Andrews University.
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And I have his brochure here
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that tells me a
little bit about him
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as well as some of the
programs that he offers.
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He's been married for 28 years
to the lovely Cynthia Warren.
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He has three beautiful children,
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two of which are
grown Camille Warren,
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Joseph Warren,
and Jerrick Warren
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and they are lovely family.
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He has been teaching at
Andrews University in English
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and he's had the
opportunity to mentor
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many, many young
people, hundreds of young people
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for the service
in the Lord's work.
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He has advanced degrees
from Ohio State University
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and a minor
religion from Oakwood College
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in Huntsville, Alabama.
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If you were to actually
go and hear Dr. Warren speak
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either at the
Michigan Men of Faith
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or some other
men's ministries groups.
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You would hear
him on such topics
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as spiritual
principles of godly manhood,
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the art of having a
successful mid-life crisis,
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home alone helping adolescent
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and many, many more.
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Dr. Warren, thank you so
much for coming to our program.
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Thank you, Karen,
for having me today.
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So what are we
gonna talk about today?
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Let's first
invite the Holy Spirit
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and see what He'll say. Okay.
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Holy Spirit, we
lift our hands to You
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to receive Your
anointing and your power.
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May the words of our mouth,
and the meditations of our heart
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based upon thy sight, O
Lord, we pray, amen. Amen.
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Let's talk about receive ye
the Holy Spirit as disciple.
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All right. God
needs some disciples.
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And I like the definition
from the Old Testament
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for the word disciple.
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It comes from a
strange text. Isaiah 54:13.
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"All thy children
shall be taught of the Lord
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and great shall be the
peace of thy children."
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That word is actually translated
in Old Testament, disciple.
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So every man needs
to be taught of Christ,
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how to be like Christ.
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There is no other model.
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There is no
certain instructions.
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You can only
learn to be His disciple
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by learning from Him
directly and I like that.
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And by the way,
while we're here,
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those men who are His disciples
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have heard the same voice
and they know the same voice.
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Which means they bring
unity in his body disciples.
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Read for us Luke 10. Okay.
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16 to 24, as you see
Christ deal with His disciples.
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I like this text
because in this text
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Christ Himself got little happy
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and I enjoy that
text, go ahead, Karen.
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"He that heareth you heareth me,
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and he that
despiseth you despiseth me,
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and he that despiseth me
despiseth him that sent me.
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And the seventy returned
again with joy, saying, Lord,
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even the devils are subject
unto us through thy name.
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And he said unto them,
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I beheld Satan as
lightning fall from heaven.
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Behold, I give unto you
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power to tread on
serpents and scorpions,
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and over all the
power of the enemy:
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and nothing shall
by any means hurt you.
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Not withstanding in this rejoice
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not that the spirits
are subject unto you,
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but rather rejoice,
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because your names
are written in heaven.
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In that hour Jesus
rejoiced in spirit,
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and said, I thank thee,
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O Father, Lord
of heaven and earth,
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that thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent,
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and hast revealed
them unto babes, even so,
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Father, for so it
seemed good in thy sight.
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All things are
delivered to me of my Father,
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and no man knoweth who
the Son is, but the Father,
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and who the
Father is, but the Son,
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and he to whom the
Son will reveal him.
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And he turned him
unto his disciples,
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and said privately,
Blessed are the eyes
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which see the
things that ye see." Amen.
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Karen, the point I love about
that text first and foremost
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is here we see
Christ given the disciples
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an example of
hilarious praise and worship.
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Luke 10:21, some folks has said,
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that means that
Christ actually dance,
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well, I don't
know about all that.
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But we know Christ got
happy. He got full of joy.
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He may have flown His
hands up, I don't know.
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But I pick the text as my
model that as His disciple
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one central part of my
obedience is joyful worship.
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Now, often times in church
I can't do what I do at home,
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that there's the private
worship and public worship.
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But at home I really want
to be joyful as His disciple.
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Seeing not that I have
power His name as the text says,
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but that my name is
written in the book,
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that is that I'm
becoming more and more like Him.
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It is very healthy for
Christians to celebrate
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their success in Christ
by being more like Christ.
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They once say that
I'm "Holier-than-thou."
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That's a bad, bad
word. Well, I'm not so sure.
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I am very thankful
to God that I'm holier
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in His presence
now than I used to be.
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But the
victories He has given me
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overtime over years. Amen.
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So I like that text.
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That Christ told
them don't be excited
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because you can command devils
and demons of all there is.
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But that you've gone out
and you have done the work
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that I asked you to
do and the reward is,
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your name is in My
book where you and I now
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share the same
character, the same attributes,
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the same gifts,
the same talents,
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everything that is in
Christ comes to His disciples.
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Therefore, I like to say that
my definition of discipleship is
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I am a power
outlet for omnipotence.
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A power outlet for omnipotence.
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All over this
room, there're outlets
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and they are
connected to a source.
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God wants me
fully connected to Him.
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So that His power
flows through me unabashed
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and I can do whatever Christ did
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in even larger numbers
or even greater amounts.
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Greater things
shall you do in my name.
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So that text deals with that.
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Now it also
deals with the concept
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that these disciples
must be in agreement.
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This is very, very
important to body of Christ.
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We have different
gifts and different talents
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or abilities, but one
spirit. That's critical.
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Christ does not have a different
school of discipleship.
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We all must go
through the exact same school,
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through the exact same voice
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and do our
individual assignments
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under the exact same anointing,
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the exact same power,
the exact same spirit.
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So I really like that text.
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I really enjoy the fact
that Christ rejoiced. Yes.
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That what He had
been doing. I now can do.
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Let me say this also
that, I get little discouraged
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with Christianity
where there is no power.
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I mean, I'm really getting
little weary of that now.
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When someone comes to a
Christian disciple, a man,
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and say, "look, you
know, I'm dying of cancer.
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There should be
some power there,
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if not to heal the cancer,
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at least to give
the person peace.
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Yes. Yeah.
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See, if a person is suffering
through marital problem,
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we should have the
power to bring reconciliation
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if they have a mind to do so.
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Pastors, my heart just
broken from the name of pastors,
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who labor, and labor, and labor,
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but who
ministers to the pastors?
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Disciple support one another,
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they help one another,
they encourage one another,
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they bless one another.
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And that's very,
very important in disciple
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So, man as disciple.
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That is being an outlet
for omnipotence through Christ
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to serve the world at this time.
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So I like that
concept a whole lot.
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I'm very strong on that.
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Now, man need power to be a man.
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But is where the power comes
from that's the issue. Okay.
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And Christ says, I'm
gonna give it to you.
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You can't buy it.
You can't theologize it.
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Yes. You can't make up in it.
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You got to ask for it.
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And Christ power
can only come into me
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when I've relinquished
all of my power, I have none.
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The text says, I am
poor and I am needed.
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Then Christ gets serious
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about being our helper
in our sufficiency. Yes.
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And His power
always comes, you know,
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beyond whatever you
could ask or think. Amen.
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He always does more
than we can imagine.
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I like to think about
the first power, a man,
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a disciple has is
the power of speech.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Speech? Yeah, yeah.
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In situation it is the man's
responsibility to speak first.
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Here's the example Genesis 1:1.
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And God said,
"Let there be light."
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That same light, Karen,
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is continuing to
expand the universe
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at the speed of
186,000 miles per second.
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The big bang they talk
about. Well, it never stops.
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God said, let there be
fish and bird, fish and fowl.
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We've still not
discovered new species,
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we have never even imagined.
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Now given to every disciple
of Christ has same power.
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And the man had it first.
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Adam spoke and
named all the animals
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and the names still stand.
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He called her Eve,
mother of all living.
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So as His
disciple, my first duty
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is to open my mouth
and speak on His behalf.
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I call those things
that be not as if they were,
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just like Christ did.
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Christ is walking on the water.
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I love that story.
What you folks afraid of?
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All power is in me. Yes.
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The text that goes
along with it and He says,
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I saw Satan falling
like light from heaven.
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Satan has no power.
This is very interesting now.
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Satan has no power
in the earth realm,
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except he derive it from
one of Christ's disciples.
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For example--
Tell us about that one.
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In a board
meeting, unless a member
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of the board meeting
allow Satan into the meeting,
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he can't get in, in
this ministry, 3ABN.
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Unless a human being
comes with a wrong spirit,
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Satan can't enter. Hmm.
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He can only have
position and power
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when someone lets him in.
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And that's why Christ said,
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"Make disciples in
My name everywhere."
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In other words the Bible says,
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"Give no place to Satan."
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So as a
disciple we do God's work
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and Christ said
this very famous lines,
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Satan has none of me.
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None of me and I want
Satan to have none of you.
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That's where power
comes from the Christ rejoice
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that they went about
doing His work in His name,
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not for the-- show of the power
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but for the show
of obedience, see.
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Power and
obedience go hand in hand.
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I'm learning now as
I grow more in grace
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that God can use me
significantly larger
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as I obey in
much smaller issues.
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Tell me more about that. Yes.
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Running around and not smoking
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and not drinking, you know,
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for me as a Seventh-day
Adventist is not a issue.
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Not even a concern at all.
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I mean, that's just
not for my lifestyle.
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Being kind to people.
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Being patient with my wife.
Be in love with my children.
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Being
compassionate with my students.
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With small foxes that's
where the power comes from.
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Being able at an instance
notice to be available to Christ
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to do what He wants me to do,
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that's where the
real power comes in.
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That reminds me the story
of the rich young ruler. Yes.
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He said he had kept
all the commandments of God
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but it seems like
this very principle
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that you're talking about
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is what Jesus
was sharing with him.
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It's the small things.
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Sell all you have
come and follow me.
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He want him to
be available. Yes.
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Now remember as
you grow into disciple,
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God-- God the Father,
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God the Son and
God the Holy Spirit
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only have one point of
conversation, that's all.
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It's you and me.
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Remember now, everything
else in the universe obeys.
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He's doing just fine.
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I mean, he's
working wonderfully, okay?
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When God the
Father, God the son and--
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That's a very good point. Yeah.
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When they get
together to discuss,
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they're talking about us. Okay.
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That should make
us feel really humble.
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Well, that's what Satan is--
no that's a close issue now.
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He cannot be saved.
We already fixed that.
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And he wants so desperately
for us to have the power
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that the three
of them have in us,
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that's why we
are the tabernacle,
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we are the sanctuary.
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No ye not that you're
the temple of Holy God, okay.
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He wants the resident power.
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The text in the Bible says that
Satan seeks whom he may devour.
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That's a very good text.
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Because it means that
Satan can't devour everybody.
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Very simply. Okay.
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In West Frankfort,
Illinois, this morning,
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he looked over the landscape.
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Home after home,
where there is no prayer,
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where there is no commitment,
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where there is no
godly leadership, whatever.
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He said, I can have that home.
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Some homes he just pass and by
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like the blurb
across the doorpost.
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There's nothing
you can do there.
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There's too much power.
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He knows in that home
there are some disciples.
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Am I gonna bother them, see?
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And remember Peter in the prison
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and they're singing
the prison tears up.
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God wants us to be
able to exercise that power.
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Now, turn to
Galatians 5:22. Okay.
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I want to give you
the secret to that power.
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Because I'm so like
a power freak myself,
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I like power.
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But that's not good enough.
God wants it done a certain way.
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Galatians 5:22 and
couple of verses pass
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and read that famous passage.
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"But the fruit of the
Spirit is love, joy, peace,
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longsuffering, gentleness,
goodness, faith, meekness,
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temperance, against
such there is no law."
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Absolutely. Before you
get the gifts of the sprit,
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that's the power, you must have
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the presence of the
spirit dwell in those things.
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Read them again, so
we'll get them clear.
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"But the fruit of the
Spirit is love, joy, peace,
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longsuffering, gentleness,
goodness, faith, meekness,
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temperance, against
such there is no law.
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And they that are Christ's
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have crucified the flesh
with the affections and lusts."
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Karen, those are the
fruits of relationship.
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How can you love God
whom you have never seen?
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And you cannot even
relate to person you live with.
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Now I didn't like that
text when I first read it.
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Because I want
to have all this joy
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and his love and
peace toward God.
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Oh, I love Him and
I'm compassionate to God.
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God doesn't need my compassion.
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God doesn't need my kindness.
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God doesn't need
my long suffering.
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That's what I'm to
give to you, to one another.
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And that's-- now I understand
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how the gifts of
the spirit works,
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pastors, evangelists, teacher,
all those gifts of healing.
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Those are
secondary for disciples
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until they shall know
that you are my disciples
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because you love one
another, there it is.
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So as a man I need
to be totally submerged
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in these fruits of the spirits.
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Now, Karen, I
can fake the gifts.
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Fake the gifts?
Yes, I can fake healings.
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I can fake anointings. I
can fake administrations.
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I can fake
preaching. I can fake teaching.
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I can fake those.
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I can get up and put
on a show anywhere anytime
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and folks maybe
impressed, but God does not.
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Is after I
finished preaching, hmm?
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And I'm driving
out in the parking lot
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and somebody crosses my
path or somebody blocks me in
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or my wife is very
tired, wants to go and eat,
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then we get to
real discipleship, see.
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There are churches all
over the place who have--
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they have healing
services and all--
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I'm not impressed.
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I'm more impressed when how
that pastor treats his children.
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Where are his
children, you'll see.
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So we must first have
the fruits of the spirit,
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love, patience, kindness.
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Now, once that's in position,
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you now have the responsibility
in Christ to do what Christ did.
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First you don't use
the gifts for yourself.
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The disciples did not think
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how they would benefit
themselves at Pentecost.
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They thought how
they could bless others.
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So any gift you
have is never for you.
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And I tell you, any gift
you have is not for you, okay.
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For example, the
gift of miracles.
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That's a wonderful gift. Sure.
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Only if you're able to use it
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under the unction
of the Holy Spirit.
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How about the gift of tongues?
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Oh, I know, among Adventism
that's a tough hard work,
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but here's the first
tongue, the tongue of silence.
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Some type of Holy Spirit
teaches keep your mouth close.
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Don't say a word back.
What a marvelous tongue.
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How many marriages
would be strengthened?
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How many families
healed if the man,
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just a man would get
up every morning and say,
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family, in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ,
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I bless all of you?
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Let's have the
good day in Jesus name.
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Rather than where are my socks,
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where is my shirt,
where is the breakfast,
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I am so sick of you.
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Speak in a new tongue,
just a tongue of kindness,
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a tongue of
sweetness, a tongue of joy,
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a tongue of celebration.
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So that the tongues as
a gift of the Holy Spirit
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are not as important as
the tongue of blessing. Yes.
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And see that the Holy Spirit--
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And the miracles that
may be as part of healing
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or for some people who do magic.
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That, that miracle, I mean,
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that's a corrupted gift there.
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Always, yeah. It's
always for someone else.
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Now keep in mind
that as a disciple
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you serve your
commander at will.
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This was hard for me to do.
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One day I was anointing
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and I pray for the
people and they got healed.
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So okay now, I got
the gift of healing,
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let me start my
healing ministry.
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I don't think so,
didn't happen that way.
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Another person had
a financial problem.
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I prayed for them who claim
tax and God reversed them--
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that's okay I got
a financial ministry
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and no, I didn't think so, okay.
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Then I'm working on
racial reconciliation
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and I made some progress
there and I said, okay Lord,
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I'll be a racial reconciliator,
he said, no, I don't think so.
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I had to realize that
as a man, as a disciple,
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I am available
at will to be used
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and here's the hard
part, Karen, or not be used.
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That's the hard part.
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And who makes that
choice? The Holy Spirit.
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So then we can't
really volunteer and say,
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"I think I need to be
able to do this here."
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It's really a calling?
You can say, I'm willing.
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Can you prepare yourself, maybe?
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Oh, yeah, through prayer,
meditation, and obedience.
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Being obedient--
which will be truth
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'cause God never gives
His gifts to wickedness,
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that's Satan work, okay.
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So to have a life of
obedience is critical.
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But to say today
well, I feel about--
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I may go to
hospital and heal six people.
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No, no, or it amazes me.
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A certain pastor will say,
00:19:51.10\00:19:53.02
we're having a healing
crusade at Anaheim, California,
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on January, 12, 13 and
14, come and be healed.
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Well, when do we begin to
order the Holy Spirit around?
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For He always shows up
suddenly, okay, at Pentecost.
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As they were
praying and confessing
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and repenting and making
amends when they least expect.
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So the Holy Spirit doesn't
work for us that way, we--
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We can be booked?
No, we can't be booked.
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He can't be ordered. He
can't be told what to do.
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We have to be as
a disciple be ready
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in an instant being
ready through obedience.
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Each day, Father,
give me Your presence,
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give me Your power
to be obedient to that
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which I know to be truth.
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Something I didn't
like about the Holy Sprit
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because I want to be
selectively obedient.
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Yeah. Hey, you are very honest.
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I want to obey this but
I don't want to obey this.
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Lord, I-- this is
part of my culture.
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Okay, Lord, now I
was born this way.
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Oh, yeah, we think sometimes
higher into that little bit,
00:20:57.33\00:20:58.74
born that way,
genetic propensities.
00:20:58.77\00:21:01.30
We have no
control over ourselves.
00:21:01.33\00:21:03.31
Lord--you know, if I
like this kind of person,
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I lose my ethnic identity and
all of that sort of nonsense.
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Holy Sprit
doesn't work that way.
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He does not
negotiate assignments.
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He does not negotiate anointing.
He does not negotiate obedience.
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I think Jonah
taught us that, okay?
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When God gives an
order, He does not repent,
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He does not recant, He
does not change His mind
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and He does not deny Himself.
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If God's gonna give you an order
00:21:37.34\00:21:38.97
and then change
His mind, He's not God.
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So they can give every power
to bring you up to obedience.
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That's what Christ is all about.
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So as a man I'm a disciple.
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That is, I'm an
outlet for omnipotent power.
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Some months ago I was
walking across campus.
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A pastor said, "Joseph,
I'm going blind with one eye."
00:21:55.60\00:21:59.75
We prayed, he can
now see. Praise the Lord.
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A week or two ago, Sunday.
00:22:03.71\00:22:06.17
I'm outside
getting my newspaper,
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walks by a pastor,
00:22:07.83\00:22:09.64
a pastor whose
wife has left him, okay.
00:22:09.67\00:22:12.98
Sunday morning, I'm in
my shorts and my t-shirt
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in the street
getting my newspaper.
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We stop right
there in the street
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and we claimed the power
of his marriage being healed.
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That's what I
mean my discipleship.
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Be ye instant in
season and out of season,
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at a moment's notice
you're on call to be obedient
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to what God ask you to do.
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Amen. So I like that part.
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That's what
Christ is happy about.
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Now, sad to say.
00:22:39.72\00:22:42.66
Only His disciples
could see His face in glory.
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That's our job, Karen.
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To go into the
world through 3ABN
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and other
ministries to help people
00:22:51.85\00:22:54.35
that understand
that you're gonna
00:22:54.38\00:22:56.22
have to be like
Him to be with Him.
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To be like Him to be with Him.
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That's critical, it
only works that way.
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Now, turn over to John 15.
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You're in John 15. Okay.
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And read a couple of
verses about that vine.
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"I am the true vine, and
my Father is the husbandman.
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Every branch in me that beareth
not fruit he taketh away,
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and every branch
that beareth fruit,
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he purgeth it, that it
may bring forth more fruit."
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There you go. Thank you,
Karen. I love this passage.
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Our Pastor Dwight Nelson
spoke about it some months ago.
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But when I'm
briefing this passage
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for all disciples is,
whatever is in the branch,
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in the vine, is in the branch.
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The sap, the juice,
the power, is identical.
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That concept is
profound with me.
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If you part of the vine, Christ,
00:23:46.62\00:23:50.01
you have the exact
same character traits,
00:23:50.04\00:23:53.34
the exact same
kinds of language,
00:23:53.37\00:23:56.12
the exact same
kinds of obedience,
00:23:56.15\00:23:58.49
the exact same kind of conduct,
00:23:58.52\00:24:00.65
the exact time of
use of your leisure time.
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You become holy as He is holy.
Whatever is in the vine, okay?
00:24:04.88\00:24:10.74
Whatever is in the
vine goes to the branches
00:24:10.77\00:24:13.28
and that creates the fruit.
00:24:13.31\00:24:15.33
That's the
reproduction in the life.
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So whatever we don't have
00:24:17.19\00:24:18.56
we can have
access to it. Precisely.
00:24:18.59\00:24:20.77
But you can only
have access to that.
00:24:20.80\00:24:23.83
The vines do not
have their own sap.
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That's true. I
mean the branches.
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Right. They get
it from the vine.
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Right. Okay?
00:24:30.72\00:24:32.09
And you cannot have
00:24:32.12\00:24:33.49
one form of godless
over here, another over here.
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See, so as a male as a man,
I must be radically soared up
00:24:35.56\00:24:42.62
tied up, locked up, bound up,
00:24:42.65\00:24:44.75
hooked up with
the Lord Jesus Christ,
00:24:44.78\00:24:47.06
for only through His power
can I be His disciple to do.
00:24:47.09\00:24:51.59
We say all the
times to I want to get
00:24:51.62\00:24:54.88
the Holy Spirit,
that never happens.
00:24:54.91\00:24:58.51
You never get the Holy Spirit.
00:24:58.54\00:25:00.31
The Holy Spirit gets
to you. He controls you.
00:25:00.34\00:25:05.16
He brings you into obedience.
00:25:05.19\00:25:07.34
You don't
command the Holy Spirit.
00:25:07.37\00:25:09.67
The Holy Spirit commands you.
00:25:09.70\00:25:11.92
And the Holy Spirit
will only command you
00:25:11.95\00:25:15.60
to be exactly like
the Lord Jesus Christ.
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There is no other
assignment to be--
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expect to be exactly like our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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That's it. That's how it works.
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All man should be disciples
for the Lord Jesus Christ,
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by the power of the Holy Spirit.
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And we can do that by
learning more about Jesus? Yes.
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What are some practical steps,
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I mean, before
you're at the zenith
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now in your
Christian experience?
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What were some
other steps come in there?
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Obedience, I'm sorry. Obedience?
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Okay, so for any man and
woman watching this program,
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just find out what God
wants you to do and obey.
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Small things. And
we'll get the Holy Spirit?
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More and more. Okay, so--
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Grace to grace. Obedience,
Christ suffered obedience.
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He learned through obedience.
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Everything in the universe,
Karen, obeys except us.
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Everything else
obeys, everything, except us.
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The Holy Spirit was sent
to bring us to obedience.
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Well, thank you so much
for this wonderful program
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that we had today with you.
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And I would like to share
information with our viewers
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and how they can
reach you, Dr. Warren.
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You can reach Dr. Warren
00:26:25.25\00:26:26.98
and Cynthia
Warren, his lovely wife.
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Spring Home Ministries,
508 North Bluff Street,
00:26:29.87\00:26:33.50
Berrien
Springs, Michigan, 49104.
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The telephone
number is 616-471-3168.
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And you can also
contact him by e-mail
00:26:42.80\00:26:46.30
at warren@andres.edu
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That is warren@andrews.edu.
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Will you offer prayer for us
please as we close our program.
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Father, we need You to
make us like Lord Jesus Christ.
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We accept His blood as
the covering for our sins.
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Make us whole we
pray you Lord, amen. Amen.
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Thank you again for
coming to our program.
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Thank you, Karen,
it's good to be here.
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And thank you for those of you
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who are watching
at home for joining us
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in another edition
of "Issues and Answers."
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Isn't it wonderful?
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That it's so simple to
receive the Holy Spirit.
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We do not have to go
through a long, long process.
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All we have to do
is just ask the Lord
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to help us to be
obedient to His will
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and He gives us the
comforter automatically.
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I mean, what
more could we ask for?
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We could be
connected to the vine.
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The Jesus Himself,
even though He's not here
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with us on this
earth, He has given us
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the comforter
through the Holy Spirit.
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We can have be
disciples of Jesus.
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We could go and make disciples
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if we would just
receive Him in our hearts today.
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Let's do that.
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And until next
time, may God bless you,
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as you continue to serve
Him in your life everyday.
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