Hello! We will be talking
in this program about one of my
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very favorite topics, Foods!,
we have a lot of information
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now a days, some
things very surprising,
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surprising information that
can help us to know how to use
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nutrition to stay in
the very best of health,
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so we hope you will
join us for this program.
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Welcome to Help Yourself to
Health, with Dr. Agatha Thrash
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of Uchee Pines Institute,
and now here is your host
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Dr. Thrash.
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I have always known that foods
contain a lot of chemicals,
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when we say the word chemical
we tend to think of something
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like what we spray on plants
to make them grow or to make
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them not grow, or to
keep bugs from being on them.
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But chemicals are
what we are composed of,
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our bodies are composed of
those same chemicals that occur
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in plants and in the
soil and in the air and water.
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So when we study plants and
study foods to learn what things
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are in those that can do
some good for us in the body
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we immediately begin to discover
some very wonderful things
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such as the powerful
neuro- protective influences of
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blueberries.
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There are substances, chemicals
if you will in blueberries
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that can protect the nerves,
can protect the brain, and
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can make one's brain and nervous
system stay young longer.
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Now you may say but I
have my favorite foods
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and I want to continue
to eat those favorite foods.
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But I would like to have Rhonda
Clark be with me now and Rhonda,
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you work at Uchee
Pines as a counselor.
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- Yes I do.
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- Do you cook sometimes also?
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- Once in awhile I
have the opportunity.
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- I heard not very long ago
you had been the Sunday cook
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for the student
cafeteria, is that correct?
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Yes, I enjoyed
that a great deal.
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- What did you make that time?
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- Well for breakfast we
made a lovely fruit crisp,
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and then for lunch we had
haystacks, which is a favorite
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at Uchee Pines.
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- Fruit crisp, that's fruit down
is a bowl with a crisp topping.
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- Yes!
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- Baked until
it is nicely baked.
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- Yes, warm with a
golden brown crust.
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- My favorite way to
serve a crisp is a hot crisp
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in a bowl with
banana ice cream on top.
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- Sounds delicious.
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- Since you didn't pick
up on that I guess you didn't
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serve banana ice cream.
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- No! Just a little soy milk.
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- Very good, well I like soy
milk on it also, and almond milk
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I like almond
milk and almond cream,
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if the crisp is not to rich.
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Now what things can you
tell us about the person who has
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a lot of favorite foods, and the
person knows that they maybe not
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so healthful as they should be,
I would like to make them more
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healthful, but I certainly
don't want to miss my very
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favorite food.
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I remember when I was
thinking about my favorite foods
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and trying to make them
more healthful, I thought well
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one of my favorite foods was
a stew made with some contraband
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little things from the ocean,
which I don't use any more.
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Don't even like to call their
name because I don't like to
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even think that I use to
eat those little creatures,
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but what can you do...
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I was thinking what can I
do to make a nice substitute
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stew, and so it was potato
stew, and it is wonderful,
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use the same little
oysteretts on top and oh it a
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very nice stew.
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Tell us about favorite dishes
and what you can do with those.
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- I will, I know that many
of my favorite dishes prior to
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learning about the benefits
of a total plant based diet
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had meat in them, and
what I wanted to focus on today
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on the program was how can
a person whose favorite dishes
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have meat as a prime ingredient
learn to make those or enjoy
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those in a meat free way.
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I'm certainly glad that
you are saying something
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about substituting for
meat because although the
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very many agencies, governmental
agencies and other agencies
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are working diligently to try
to make meat a healthful dish
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as it is currently
available to the consumer.
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We just have to say
that meat is unhealthful,
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and when you learn some of
the practices in the marketing
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of meat they are unsavory
practices, and so of course we
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want to change a meat
dish for something else,
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so give us some tips.
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- Well I wanted to give some
tips and started with favorite
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dishes, many of my favorite
dishes already had a plant based
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substitute or alternative
out there that as I tried them I
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enjoyed them greatly,
for example spaghetti,
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spaghetti sauce is a favorite,
spaghetti with a nice rich hardy
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meat sauce, but I tried
a marinara sauce instead,
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completely plant based, very
delicious, many other examples,
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fajitas, there were wonderful
vegetable fajitas that were
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available, very tasty I
didn't miss the meat at all.
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Chili, you make a
lovely vegetarian chili,
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or a vegetable lasagna,
instead of a meat lasagna.
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So many of the favorite dishes
you can just try the vegetarian
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alternative for them and
find that they are quite tasty
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and delicious.
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Many of my favorite recipes
also included ground beef
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and what could I
substitute for ground beef?
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In a recipe that calls
for it in a sauce or a soup
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a lovely alternative in
barley or wheat kernels,
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wheat berries also known
as bulgur, these make a nice
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chewy grain that very
nicely replaces ground beef
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in for example spaghetti sauce
or a soup, I also liked meatloaf
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and found that there are
wonderful alternatives for
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ground beef in a meat
loaf, ground nuts, grains,
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brown rice, I know brown
rice is a main ingredient
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in some of the loafs that
we have there at Uchee Pines.
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- That's a favorite of mine.
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- And legumes like the
beans they can be used as a
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replacement, even bread crumbs
made from a nice whole grain
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bread. - Or rolled oats.
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- Oh yes, rolled oats are
wonderful, a binding agent
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a nice replacement for
meat in a meatless roast recipe.
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Now sometimes people miss
that chicken breast or steak
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or slice of roast beef that
forms the entree for the meal
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and some substitutes
that we can recommend:
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tofu is a wonderful alternative,
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I was a little reluctant to try
tofu, there for me was a little
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mental block that I had to
get past because it looked very
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different than
anything I had tried before.
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But tofu is actually quite
lovely, it really has not much
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flavor on it's own and
takes very nicely the flavors
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of things that you
marinade it in or prepare it in.
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Tofu comes in different
consistencies and that lends
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itself nicely to different
types if recipes, but a firm
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or extra firm tofu
sliced marinated in a sauce,
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like a barbecue sauce or
favorite sauce that you have
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and then baked in that sauce
can make a lovely alternative
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for a meat entree.
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Tofu is certainly a very
versatile food because if you
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slice it and freeze it, it
takes on a bit of toughness,
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where as just out of the
container that you bought
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in the store it's so crumbly
and so soft you would never
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believe that it could
ever take on a toughness,
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but just freezing it and
thawing it, then it can be
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used in various marinades
to make a nice meat consistency
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type of dish.
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Now I've been a vegetarian for
so long I don't miss the meat
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consistency either, I am
just as happy to be without it.
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But sometimes there are people
who miss that and so it's very
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easy to accomplish that.
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- Another nice chewy
alternative is the cap of a
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portabella mushroom,
they have a wonderful flavor,
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Oh! They're delicious!
-and I will tell you some ways I
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use them. - Ok!
They're lovely just
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brushed lightly with a nice
soy sauce, get the unfermented
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brand of soy sauce and grilled
or broiled, that's a nice way to
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prepare them.
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They can be prepared really
just by themselves, just steamed
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or baked, how do
you prepare them?
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Well I generally start
with some onions, and sauté
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the onions is just plain water
and maybe some thin strips of
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carrots in the water and braise
that a little bit and then
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put the mushrooms in and
cover it and let them steam for
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quite a long time.
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A nice weight loss measure
is a full portabella or other
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kind of mushroom
such as some of these
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oriental mushrooms and
just steam them and squeeze a
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little bit of the water out of
them and put them in a couple of
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lettuce leaves and the person
eats that with just a little bit
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of something like unfermented
soy sauce, or just a little salt
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and or a little bit of
onion powder or garlic powder,
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just absolutely wonderful as
a sandwich that has almost no
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calories in it, what 40,
50 calories in it couple of
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lettuce leaves and
a portabella mushroom.
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Yes, very nice and an
interesting thing about
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portabellas, and
shiitake, and maitake mushrooms
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is that they have known anti
cancer properties, and known
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anti-oxidant properties.
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Now an anti-oxidant is a
substance that slows down
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the aging process, a pro-
oxidant or oxidant accelerates
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the aging process, so we want
to do what we can to slow it
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down and a portabella mushroom
does have these anit-aging
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properties.
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An interesting thing is
that shiitake mushrooms can be
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grown on a wet log that
you have in your back yard
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if you are a good gardener.
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- Have them
immediately available.
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- That's right, you mentioned
some bits of meat in dishes,
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have you ever tried chick peas,
like in chick pea ala king?
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- Beans and other vegetables
can make a wonderful alternative
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for meat, it's something
that you don't think of,
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a special vegetable can even
be featured as the main entree
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of your dish, a stuffed pepper
made with a lovely tomato sauce
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rice filling or an acorn squash
steamed and then half filled
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with a nice vegetarian type
stuffing, those can make lovely
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main dishes.
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Even something as
simple as a baked potato or a
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boiled artichoke can take
the place of that main meat
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that you've been having,
and those also work well then
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in stews, in soups, and
stroganoff's, places where you
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are used to having bits
of meat or chopped meats,
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chopped tofu, chopped portabella
mushroom, chopped asparagus
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there's lovely things that
can be used in place of meat
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to make the recipes delightful
and much more healthful for you.
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Now one thing Dr. Thrash that
I think is just indispensable
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for someone who is wanting
to transition to bringing more
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fruits and vegetables
into their diet, beginning to
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eliminate the meat and the
animal products from their diet
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are good vegan cookbooks.
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- Oh yes!
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- Cookbooks that really can
help guide you, instruct you,
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and give you recipes to try.
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So if you contact 3ABN they
will be happy to direct you to
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Uchee Pines where we can
lead you to some good resources
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either in our book store
or other places where we can
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help you get in touch with
resources that will truly be
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completely free from animal
products and be delicious and
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beneficial for your health.
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- Yes, I have enjoyed the
substitutes that you can have
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for various meat dishes, and
some things that aren't really
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a substitute in a sense but
like olives, the great array of
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dishes that you can make with
olives, and if you want to go
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to a little expense such
things as artichoke hearts and
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Chinese chestnuts, all of those
can be nicely used to assist one
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in making very delicious
and very satisfying vegan dishes
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you use no meat, no milk,
and no cheese, I have asked
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Dr. Donald Miller who also
is a good cook and does a lot
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of his own meals, Dr.
Miller welcome to the program
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and what can you tell us from...
I know you've got a great store
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of knowledge about how to
cook properly, and how to serve,
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I have seen a table in your
house all set for the guests
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and it's a beautiful table, I
guess you probably picked those
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up somewhere in the
world maybe when you were
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a Marine or something.
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- Right, well my silverware
which is really teakwood handles
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came from Thailand
and my China wherever,
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but as far as cooking I'm not
really and extremely good cook,
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I'm a basic cook.
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I believe that where as
I have a lot of cook books,
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I do have a lot of cook
books and I do love to cook
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and when my daughter
lived with me years ago we would
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make some very nice things,
but I have been single for
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many years and so I am
more basic, I like potatoes,
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I like rice, I like
just the very simple things.
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Basically in my line of work
that comes in very handy because
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I do a lot of traveling,
now I go to places like Japan,
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and the food there is absolutely
great and what they are finding
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is not so much finding but
what the statistics are telling
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us that Japanese women are the
longest lived women in the world
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or the longest lived people,
average about 85.53 years
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is the average age of a Japanese
woman, which is quite a long
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life, men come in second behind
Icelandic men at about 78.6
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more years, and so they
have a very long life span,
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and we wonder why is that?
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The number one contributing
feature, what they are
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telling us is their diet.
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Their diet is very rich
in vegetables, very low in
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animal fats, they do have
animals there but when you
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figure you've got this
island, which is what Japan is,
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with basically two large plains
on which the 125 million people
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live, you don't have a
lot of room for animals
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to be roaming about.
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- You might have some goats
up in the mountainous regions.
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- Well they have bears up
in the mountain regions too,
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to eat the goats so.
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- I guess there aren't to many.
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- Not to many, but any way,
they eat a lot of vegetables,
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and the thing I've noticed
in Japan as you travel from
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city to city, which you
go through a lot of towns
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in between is all rice fields.
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You've got this large
plain and you've got rice fields
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everywhere, and every available
piece of land is planted with
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something like fruit
trees. - Everyone has, right.
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- Some kind of permanent herb
that lives there that they use
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in their cooking very,
conservative use of their land.
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- You don't see large
manicured lawns you see large
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manicured rice patties, and
vegetable gardens and trees,
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and everyone has it that
has enough room to have one
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and so the diet
is very good there.
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I love the food in Japan,
now granted they do eat a lot of
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fish, but when I say a lot
of fish, there is a lot of fish
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in the diets, but it is
usually a small amount of fish
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to go with all the rice,
with go with all the vegetables
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all the other things which
makes for a very good diet.
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Other places I travel,
I was in Ukraine one time
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and it was Christmas, Christmas
Day which is a big day,
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now this isn't the, I
don't know how you call it,
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it's the Orthodox Christmas
which is the first Sunday
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I believe it was in January.
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So here we are at this big
meal, and there is a doctor
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at the end of the table
and I am the only vegan at the
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table, and they
all know I am a vegan,
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so they send me out special
things and the doctor at the end
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she said it's easy to be a vegan
in America because you have
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such a big selection,
and I asked her I said
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what do you add to your
diet that's missing in what
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I'm eating right now?
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All you can add, I
mean if you are over there,
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it's not like you can add if
if you are not a vegan, peaches
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in December, all you are adding
is chicken or pigs or cows.
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Which adds nothing more than
more protein which is something
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that is very much not needed,
fat which is very much not
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needed, and all the other things
that go with these products.
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So here I am eating
potatoes, I'm eating cabbage,
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I'm eating carrots, I'm eating
onions, I'm eating cushaw.
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- And walnuts, and beets.
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- I'm telling them there
is plenty of food here to eat,
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I am perfectly
satisfied with the food there.
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In the summer time when
you have the apricots as we
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remember that summer
we were there in Kherson.
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- Oh yes! We had a team there
and everybody just loved the...
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- Apricots and cherries,
and you've got all these fruits
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and vegetables, and what they
do is they store these things,
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the things you can eat
basically fresh are the things
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that you can store
for long periods of time,
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you can take a head of
cabbage put it in a cool place,
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and it will be there all winter
long, along with the carrots
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- The beets of
course are every where.
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- Absolutely, the onions,
the garlic, and I mentioned the
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cushaw that's what the call the
grains over there, buckwheat,
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I never liked
buckwheat in this country,
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I love buckwheat over there.
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- They know how to
prepare it just right.
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- They do know how to do
this, and of course they've got
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their Borscht, which is nothing
more than a nice vegetable soup
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which has a lot of beets
in it which is sort of a red,
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all I leave out is just
don't put in the sour cream
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into my soup, the
soup is perfectly good,
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very healthy soup, so they
have everything that we need
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for our diets.
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I hearken back in my mind
to the time when back in the
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mid-Victorian period in
England when Lord Palmerston
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was the prime minister of
England, and the Scotts clergy
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sent a petition to Palmerston
because they were having a
00:20:17.11\00:20:20.47
Cholera epidemic up in
Scotland and he says please,
00:20:20.50\00:20:24.06
ask the people of England
to have a special day of prayer
00:20:24.09\00:20:28.63
and fasting for us up here
having this Cholera epidemic.
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Palmerston wrote back,
now this is very interesting,
00:20:31.72\00:20:34.45
he died in 1865 so
this is really early stuff,
00:20:34.48\00:20:38.15
what he came up with he
says have the people clean and
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disinfect their homes, provide
the people with good food,
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and good water, and
proper raiment and you will have
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no reason to pray or fast
nor will God hear your prayers
00:20:48.74\00:20:53.88
while these His
preventives remain unheeded.
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- My that was very
insightful and foresightful.
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- For the times in which he
lived, this is back in the times
00:21:01.48\00:21:03.79
of Pasteur and whatever else,
this man had his fingers on
00:21:03.82\00:21:06.97
the pulse of what was
really wrong with the people.
00:21:07.00\00:21:10.69
Clean up your act, clean up
your diet, it's the westerners,
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we in the western world,
the western developed nations
00:21:14.56\00:21:17.89
we're dying of the colon
cancers, we're dying of the
00:21:17.92\00:21:21.18
stomach cancers, we're dying
of diabetes, and these things
00:21:21.21\00:21:24.54
are virtually unknown
of in the areas, Africa.
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I go to Africa, the main
food in the parts of Africa
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I go to is a food called Shema?
which is made from mealy meal
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which is nothing more
than maze or corn ground up
00:21:36.16\00:21:38.77
into a porridge, and they make
a very thick paste out of this
00:21:38.80\00:21:42.30
porridge and you
get a big lump of this,
00:21:42.33\00:21:45.58
and then they will have a
couple types of what they call
00:21:45.61\00:21:47.44
relish, not the type of
relish what we think about
00:21:47.47\00:21:49.81
but it might be some sautéed
cabbage, or it might be some
00:21:49.84\00:21:53.77
eggplant that is sautéed,
you have little bits of this,
00:21:53.80\00:21:56.46
and you take a
handful of the Shema,
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you eat it with your fingers
there, you form it with a ball,
00:21:59.63\00:22:02.63
stick your thumb in it, and
you scoop a little bit of this
00:22:02.66\00:22:05.25
relish into the ball and
then pop it into your mouth
00:22:05.28\00:22:08.11
and eat it.
00:22:08.15\00:22:09.12
- So the little ball that
you make is walnut size or
00:22:09.13\00:22:12.95
acorn size? - It
depends on how big
00:22:12.98\00:22:14.36
your mouth is, it
depends on how hungry you are.
00:22:14.39\00:22:17.89
It is small, what you can
hold with your fingers closed
00:22:17.92\00:22:21.56
in your hand, it's just a
nice.. - What about walnut size
00:22:21.59\00:22:25.70
or a little smaller? -
Yes! And the nice thing
00:22:25.73\00:22:28.14
about this, is while
you are chewing on this,
00:22:28.17\00:22:30.38
you have to go back and
you spend some time chewing
00:22:30.41\00:22:32.69
because you are not bringing
another handful up right away.
00:22:32.72\00:22:35.68
- With a fork you
can keep shoveling it in.
00:22:35.71\00:22:38.69
- You keep shoveling and
swallowing, shoveling and
00:22:38.72\00:22:40.40
swallowing and
you never chew well.
00:22:40.43\00:22:41.96
Now in India I have a
bit more of a problem because
00:22:41.99\00:22:45.39
their main staple is
rice, and I love rice,
00:22:45.42\00:22:48.74
and then they have their curry.
00:22:48.77\00:22:50.29
Now we have to leave a little
bit of the hot stuff out of the
00:22:50.32\00:22:53.48
curry but it still is
very good what they make us,
00:22:53.51\00:22:55.88
but to mix the rice
and the curry just right,
00:22:55.91\00:22:58.88
and to get that into
the ball and into the mouth
00:22:58.91\00:23:01.42
without having it drip
down your elbow and all over the
00:23:01.45\00:23:03.63
floor, I did not have
quite the amount of success,
00:23:03.66\00:23:07.29
but I found that... - It
must be a bit more liquid.
00:23:07.32\00:23:10.12
- Much more liquid, and they've
got a way of squeezing it
00:23:10.15\00:23:13.26
between their fingers or
something, I mean they are
00:23:13.29\00:23:15.13
artists at it, but wherever
I've traveled in anywhere
00:23:15.16\00:23:18.48
in the world it's no problem
being a vegan, it's Irkutsk
00:23:18.51\00:23:23.40
I mean this is talking about
Siberia almost on the shores of
00:23:23.43\00:23:26.93
Lake Baikal, I go into
the markets there, there is a
00:23:26.96\00:23:31.16
wide variety of soy products.
00:23:31.20\00:23:34.14
There are many people from
North Korea and China there
00:23:34.17\00:23:37.73
and they've got their
foods and their foods basically
00:23:37.76\00:23:40.62
reading T. Colin
Campbell's The China Study,
00:23:40.65\00:23:43.13
he found that these...
and this is a wonderful study,
00:23:43.16\00:23:46.15
he found that these people
don't get all these different
00:23:46.18\00:23:48.34
cancers and diseases because
their diets are so simple.
00:23:48.37\00:23:51.13
You can go to the market
and they are selling the seaweed
00:23:51.16\00:23:55.27
they are selling the noodles,
they are selling all these
00:23:55.30\00:23:57.43
things, and I can look at all
of it, every single bit of it
00:23:57.46\00:24:01.44
is vegan, and yet we say we'll
die if we become vegans here
00:24:01.47\00:24:05.17
and that's not the case.
00:24:05.20\00:24:06.30
Calcium is not a problem,
protein is not a problem,
00:24:06.33\00:24:10.00
everything we need God has
provided in a vegetarian diet.
00:24:10.03\00:24:14.10
- Yes! Absolutely! And
sometimes people say well,
00:24:14.13\00:24:18.36
but I don't like let's say
seaweed, well I brought a sample
00:24:18.39\00:24:23.11
of seaweed, - Can I
have some for my next
00:24:23.14\00:24:25.91
meal? - This is
probably my favorite
00:24:25.94\00:24:29.57
type of seaweed, I like this
very much, I can see by your
00:24:29.60\00:24:34.25
mouth watering that you do too.
00:24:34.28\00:24:35.97
Well this came from
Korea, and these sheets are...
00:24:36.00\00:24:40.66
I like to toast them briefly
in the oven just a few seconds
00:24:40.69\00:24:45.90
I turn the oven on, by the time
it comes up to the temperature
00:24:45.93\00:24:49.43
I am ready to take it
out, then I just fold this
00:24:49.46\00:24:54.36
a couple of times, and
then I have these little sheets
00:24:54.39\00:24:58.64
that I can easily break apart,
and you have this little thing
00:24:58.67\00:25:04.32
and if you use chopsticks
which are nice to eat with rice,
00:25:04.35\00:25:09.75
you just drop one of these on
the rice and with the chopsticks
00:25:09.78\00:25:13.75
you just pick it up with the
seaweed and the rice and it's
00:25:13.78\00:25:18.70
introduced into
the mouth that way.
00:25:18.73\00:25:20.75
Another way that I just
really love the use of seaweed,
00:25:20.78\00:25:25.09
by the way seaweed has been
recently found, this is a fact
00:25:25.12\00:25:31.83
that seaweed has anti-cancer
properties in it and it is
00:25:31.86\00:25:36.48
believed that one of the
reasons why the Japanese women
00:25:36.51\00:25:39.35
live so long is because they
do eat a good bit of seaweed.
00:25:39.38\00:25:44.19
- And their cancer rates
are extremely low in Japan
00:25:44.22\00:25:46.70
they get cancer yes, but it
is extremely low compared to us.
00:25:46.73\00:25:49.79
- And it seems that they handle
certain types of cancers a lot
00:25:49.82\00:25:53.53
better than we do in America.
00:25:53.56\00:25:56.86
So what I do is to simply
spread let's say my bean dish
00:25:56.89\00:26:02.62
right here and then I roll it up
as a Sushi, of course you have
00:26:02.65\00:26:07.67
to do this on the plate, but
you just roll it up like this
00:26:07.70\00:26:10.78
and then you eat it as a
sandwich, and if this end
00:26:10.81\00:26:14.23
leaks a little bit you just
hold it like that, and it's a
00:26:14.26\00:26:17.26
wonderful conversation piece
when you have people visiting
00:26:17.29\00:26:20.77
with you, you serve a platter
of these nicely toasted sheets
00:26:20.80\00:26:25.29
and it does
very nicely that way.
00:26:25.32\00:26:28.01
Then here is another thing,
this you will not find I guess
00:26:28.04\00:26:33.86
in a lot of foreign markets.
00:26:33.89\00:26:35.90
- It's amazing how
much you find over there.
00:26:35.93\00:26:38.95
- Is that right? - Yes!
00:26:38.98\00:26:40.01
- Well I like Shredded Wheat
especially if it's made with
00:26:40.04\00:26:43.79
these ingredients.
00:26:43.82\00:26:44.79
- Whole wheat,
nothing but the wheat.
00:26:44.80\00:26:46.36
- Whole grain wheat, that's
what it says, whole grain wheat.
00:26:46.39\00:26:49.57
The advertisement was what
attracted my attention to this,
00:26:49.60\00:26:56.63
it says three easy steps to
reduce calories, loose weight,
00:26:56.66\00:27:00.72
and maintain a healthier heart,
number one, this is one step,
00:27:00.75\00:27:05.08
replace two meals a day with
any Post healthy classic cereal
00:27:05.11\00:27:10.58
and then they
give you as choices,
00:27:10.61\00:27:13.19
Honey Nut Shredded Wheat and
Bran, Frosted Shredded Wheat,
00:27:13.22\00:27:19.46
and Shredded Wheat, of those
the one that I would tell you
00:27:19.49\00:27:23.11
to use is the Shredded Wheat.
00:27:23.14\00:27:25.00
Then they also say, focus on
portion control, don't overdo
00:27:25.03\00:27:30.51
the size of your portions, and
once you've had a good portion
00:27:30.54\00:27:34.43
don't go back for big seconds.
00:27:34.46\00:27:36.28
If you need something more
after you've already eaten a
00:27:36.31\00:27:39.14
plateful, then just eat
bread, if you are really hungry
00:27:39.17\00:27:43.82
bread will satisfy genuine
hunger, and then of course
00:27:43.85\00:27:47.28
the last thing they say
is to get plenty of exercise.
00:27:47.31\00:27:50.07
And those are things that anyone
would be well advised to follow
00:27:50.10\00:27:54.54
and a regular diet.
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