Hello! Few
accomplishments are more
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satisfying to the individual
than victory over a bad habit
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such as the habit of overeating,
the habit of being overweight.
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We'll be talking about
overweight in this session
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and we hope you will join us.
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Welcome to Help
Yourself to Health
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with Dr. Agatha Thrash
of Uchee Pines Institute,
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and now here is
your host Dr. Thrash.
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There are many
things that a person dreads
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when they are overweight.
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The first thing is they
dread is facing the problem,
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they dread thinking
about having to loose weight
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or wanting to loose weight.
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Another thing that they
dread is the complications
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that may occur
from being overweight.
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Several of those skeletal
problems, digestive problems,
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diabetes may be a
problem, emotional upsets,
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may be a problem for
some, so there are many problems
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that can arise
from being overweight.
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Now we would like to talk
with you about some of these
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and the way that we
approach loosing weight
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can be a major problem for
one or can be one that one takes
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just in stride, so we would like
to talk with you just a little
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bit about how you can
go about loosing weight.
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What tips you can have,
is there more than prayer,
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is there more than study
and commitment of yourself
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to the Lord, can you do
something yourself that can be
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helpful, and I have
asked Rhonda Clark to join me
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Rhonda is a colleague at
Uchee Pines, and I would like
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to welcome you to
the program today.
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- Thank you! Glad to be here.
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- And I know that some of
the things that you and I will
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talk about that people hear
that they will be very pleased
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with, so tell us a
little bit about yourself.
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Have you always
been thin as you are now?
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- And on my way
to being thinner.
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I started my adventure at
Uchee Pines quite a bit heavier
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than I am now, and am excited
to share with you some tips
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today that have been very
beneficial to me personally
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and that I know will help me
on my journey to reach my goal
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weight, which I hope
will be within the year.
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- That sounds good.
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We know that overweight
is a spiritual battle,
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it's a battle that has to do
with how I relate to the Lord
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how I understand myself, what
commitment I have to the Lord
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for how I handle His equipment.
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All of these things
are spiritual things,
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my relationship with other
people, this also has to do
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with my weight and my appetite,
and the way that I enjoy eating
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or I enjoy having meal times.
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All of these have
spiritual overtones,
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but we also know that
there are some physical things
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that we can do, while I
can commit myself to the Lord
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I can through prayer admit
that I am powerless against
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the habit of indulging myself
in things that are going to make
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me overweight.
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I can look at myself
and I can understand that
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I don't like the way that I
am, and I can determine that I
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am not going to eat a certain
thing, and then I have found
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that in the past
that I do it anyway.
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There are some things that I
have found that can be helpful
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that the Lord has
recommended that we do,
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and so I know that it
is not wrong for us to try
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to participate.
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And sometimes in the way that
people look at righteousness
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by faith and being saved
by grace and not by works,
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we understand that those things
are true and yet the Lord has
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commanded us a number
of things to do, one is,
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you see evil and you
flee from it, that's works,
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but never the less
it helps a lot of times.
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Now there are some
other things, I may not flee
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the evil, but I can take
the evil out of my house,
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that's another tip.
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What are some
things that you have found?
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You know one of the things I
know that the Lord had inspired
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that has been very helpful
to me in my weight loss program
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has been transitioning
over to a two meal a day plan.
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And there is still a part of
me even after several months of
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following this, that
can't believe I'm only eating
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breakfast and lunch,
and not eating supper which
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has habitually been for
many people and was for me
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my largest meal.
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- Three square meals a
day, I grew up with that,
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that was the sign that you
had been successful in life,
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I've always had
three square meals a day.
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There is a saying in
the area where I grew up,
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so what did you think
when you heard about the...
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I remember when I studied about
two meals, and that being the
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ideal physiologic
pattern for human beings,
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I remember when we
studied that in physiology in
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medical school, I thought well
that's strange because nobody
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but nobody eats
only tow meals a day.
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I didn't realize that there were
a lot of people who really did
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eat only two meals a day,
that is the two healthful meals.
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Of course I guess that probably
4/5ths of the world only eats
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two meals a day, but the wrong
two, they eat a light lunch
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and a huge supper, or
what they call dinner,
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but the best meal pattern for
a human being, a good breakfast
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and a good lunch.
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What did you think about that
when you first heard that plan?
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- You know supper for me had
been much more than just a third
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evening meal, for me it
began when I came home from work
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and was somewhat of a meal
and kind of transitioned into
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snacking in front of the
television the rest of the
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evening, even up until bedtime.
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And so giving up my third
meal, I was giving up more than
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just a meal, I was giving
up my source of relaxation,
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I was giving up my entertainment
in the evening, I was giving up
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something a little
bigger to me personally.
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And when I first heard of
a two meal plan I had a great
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deal of anxiety about this, I
knew that I would be suffering
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a great deal of hunger,
and that this would be quite
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distressful for me, and so
I was geared up to really be
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miserable, but I was determined
I was going to give it a try.
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- And the giving up the TV
may have been the biggest part
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of the problem.
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Mine might have been more
distressing than giving up
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the food, did you find it so?
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- Actually I was so pleasantly
surprised to find that this
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was not as painful as
I thought it would be.
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- You didn't go
around hungry all the time?
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- About the first three
days of giving up supper
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I really was missing
it, and I felt a sense of
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what should I be
doing with myself.
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I had a little bit of
disorientation in how to
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spend my time, and that really
helped me focus on the fact
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that my stomach was empty.
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- So it only took about three
days to become a little bit
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accustomed to it.
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- Surprisingly!
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- Oh Rhonda, it took me
much much longer than that
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I remember making a
New Year's Resolution,
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I had been cutting down
on my suppers for a long time
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but I made a New
Year's Resolution,
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I'm not going to
eat suppers any more.
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We had gotten to the
place where we only had peaches
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in the evening, or
some kind of fruit, and then
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New Year's Day came and I
said New Year's Resolution!
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I will not eat suppers any more,
I know that it's physiologic,
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I know that it's
going to be beneficial,
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I know that it will help me
to loose a few pounds of weight
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and by that time I was only
about 10 or 15 Lbs. overweight.
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Through the years I had
lost a little weight, of the fat
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that I had gained
extra when I was a teenager
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and so I was not to
overweight by that time,
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but I was happy to
anticipate those 10 or 15 Lbs.
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But to the thought of
giving up my third square meal
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was not very pleasant,
so I sailed into it though
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and I determined that
I would not eat suppers.
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I prayed that the Lord would
help me to control my appetite
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and I was so determined that
I would not even look at the
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refrigerator, I would try not
to even think about the kitchen
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nor think about
food, nor planning menus,
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nor anything of that
nature until after I had eaten
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again the next day
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So three months went by
it was the first of April,
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and it was along about the
first of April when I began
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to be comfortable not
eating that third meal.
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- Really! Wow!
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- What do you find now, are
you happy with the third meal?
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Do you ever just
have a craving for supper?
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- Yes, of course I've had
some times it was difficult,
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but I've learned some good
tips, and I wanted to share
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those you and with those
who are watching today that
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maybe these will be
of help to them as well.
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One of the things that I
had to get over was the fear
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of being hungry or being
distressed about loosing this
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third meal, and it took a
lot of really good positive talk
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knowing that I was making this
change for good and important
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reasons and really
committing myself to making the
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change fully.
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Also I planned to keep myself
busy during the evening hours
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I did not follow the
same routine that had been so
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connected with overeating
and my snacking habits,
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I did completely different
things, in fact I even stayed
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out of my house during
that time and kept busy,
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I started practicing the
piano which I hadn't played for
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many years so that was fun
to kind of renew that hobby,
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or I would go for a walk,
those are things I recommend
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to fill that time another way.
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Also it's important to make
sure the breakfast and lunch
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that you have are very
nutritious full of things
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that will give fiber fruits,
and vegetables, raw foods are
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important to include in
each meal, having whole grains,
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legumes and even a few nuts, but
making sure they will hold you.
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Not overeating, that will
actually make you hungrier
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in the evening than if you
have appropriate portion size
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very nutrition meal.
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Another thing that I found
helpful was to have a friend
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do this with me, when I
wasn't in this alone and I had a
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partner to go and do
things with during supper time
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or someone to pray with me or
to encourage me along the way.
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These are some tips
that I have found helpful in
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implementing a two meal plan.
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For people who have
children Dr. Thrash who have to
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have a third meal for
their children, what suggestions
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might you have for someone who's
trying to do a two meal plan?
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Well we sometimes think
that two meals might be alright
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for adults but certainly
children could not survive on
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two meals, but the answer is
yes they can in fact it's the
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most healthful plan
for children as well.
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This I learned when I
was in Physiology classes in
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Medical School, now for
the child who is in a home
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where the adults do not take
a third meal, the most logical
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is for them also not
to take a third meal.
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You will find that your
children if you are practicing
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two meals a day, a two meal
plan, your children will have
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to be interrupted from what
they are doing and brought in
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and told it is now
time for you to eat supper,
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or they won't remember it
at all, you don't have food
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on the table, you are
not cooking in the kitchen,
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you don't have anything that
they are accustomed to getting
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at a certain time, you don't
have any of those things around
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then they will find that the
most logical thing to do what
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you do, you continue your
activities until it's time
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for you to prepare for
that routine that you go through
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before you go to bed,
worship, maybe a story time,
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and then to bed
for the children.
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They will consider that
the most logical, and rational,
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and normal thing to do, and I
have seen it happen many times
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in families where the children
are from 1- 3 years of age
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they can easily be
trained to a two meal plan.
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If they are older, let's
say they are about 10 or 12,
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you may have more difficulty
with them, because they remember
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that they are supposed to
eat at this time of the day
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that being in the evening,
but it's better for them
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if they don't eat the third
meal because one the big things
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we are seeing now days is
obesity in children and a child
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who goes through
puberty being over weight
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it's very likely that
they will be overweight
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the rest of their lives, or
they will at least be fighting
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the battle of
appetite all of their lives.
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So I tell parents who are
the parents of small children
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do not allow your
child to go through puberty
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being overweight, conquer
this habit, the habit of eating
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to much, of eating to
frequently, of eating foods
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that are to rich, conquer these
habits before they go through
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puberty or they will
forever have a hard time.
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Yes, a two meal plan
is for children as well.
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- That's so helpful to know.
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- Now tell me, I have
found two things for my patients
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that have been
really serious problems,
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one is how do you
handle the church pot luck,
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and secondly how do you
handle the big sit down function
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that occurs in the evening,
say someone is getting married,
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and there is a real premium
on this marriage, for "You,"
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it's a close
relative, or in some other way,
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you really are a part of
the spotlight, what can you do
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in those two instances?
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The church pot luck
or the the family reunion
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or the big sit
down evening meal,
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do you have any tips on that?
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- I have a few, one tip that
I really like to give for people
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who are going to pot
luck is take your own food,
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take your own dishes, you
can even take your own lunch
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and you can still enjoy all
of the fellowship and social
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activity around you without
being tempted by all the lovely
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things that are
over on the other table.
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Bring dishes that you
know your family can enjoy,
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that you enjoy, sometimes
it's helpful to save one of your
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favorite healthful dishes
to take to an occasion so that
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you don't feel deprived,
you get your special dish
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to take with you.
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Another is to go towards
the end of the pot luck line,
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and if you go towards the
end you will know many of the
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selections will already be gone,
so you will have fewer things
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to choose from.
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Now this puts you at risk
of being left with choices
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that may not be as healthful
for you and so just keep that
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in mind as you consider...
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Always pray before pot
luck and remember that you have
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and angel right beside
you who is there to help
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and strengthen you.
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Sometimes I would go at
the end of church service,
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and drink two large glasses
of cool water, walk around
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a little bit, head back
over towards the pot luck,
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towards the end of the
line and by then enough time
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would have passed that the
water would have helped suppress
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my appetite and I was able
to be a little more temperate
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in my choices.
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It becomes more difficult
when we get involved in social
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occasions, so much of our
society involves evening events
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and evening activities.
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A friend of mine says what
she does is tells her friends
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and family, you know I'm
sorry I won't be able to eat
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any of that because
of my doctors orders,
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and your
doctor... - Doctors orders,
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that's a good one.
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- The great physician
has ordered me to refrain
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from that third meal.
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Again maybe you can take your
own vegetable tray or something
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that if you feel that you
have to imbibe can be something
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very simple an very light
that would be something easily
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digested, I think though
it's best just to be honest with
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people and let them know I
won't be able to have any food
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with you that evening,
but I would love to sit
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and enjoy your company.
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Those are tough if you
are very tempted by the
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things before you.
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- Yes and sometimes something
that you can do is drink
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a cup of tea at the time
that they are taking the meal
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and you explain this
ahead of time, doctors orders
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that I won't be taking
the third meal, and then
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they may ask well
what can I provide for you,
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will you take some juice
or will you take some soup,
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and the answer is of course
no I will not need that either.
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And then you can say but if you
have some herb tea, I will be
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happy to have something
like mint tea or catnip tea,
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that's another good one catnip
also quails the appetite a bit
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and that can be very helpful.
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- I would like to mention to our
viewers a couple of other teas
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that have been helpful to
me personally on occasions when
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I have been feeling hungry
and known that I shouldn't eat.
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There are two teas that have
been helpful and I make them
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together: One is
chickweed, the other is fennel,
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and fennel has a
really nice licorice taste,
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those two teas put together
have quelled my appetite
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on occasions when I didn't want
to eat, and something about that
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warm tea is very
soothing, so again helping you
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not feel deprived.
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So I guess that's some of
the tips that I have for that
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Dr. Thrash.
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- I have another tip and
that is when you are going
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to someone's house and you
are going to be there for a
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few days, it is well to let
the hostess know ahead of time
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what your dietary restrictions
will be, if they lay in some
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beautiful steaks for you and
a lot of cheese and other things
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that you don't eat any way,
and certainly don't eat on a
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weight control program.
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It may be that you have a
serious problem with the hostess
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she may feel quite unkind
towards you for letting her
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lay in all of these things that
you are not going to eat anyway.
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Now I've asked Dr. Don
Miller if he will also give some
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thoughts that he has about
how to approach this problem
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it is certainly not a small
problem, it's a very serious
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thing and Dr. Miller welcome
to the program and I'm happy
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that you are going to
bring us some tips also,
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what do you have to say to us?
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Well an interesting
point, you've talked a lot about
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eating suppers, but almost
as important if not eating
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suppers, is eating breakfast.
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- Good point!
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- And many people,
they don't eat breakfast,
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and if you don't eat breakfast
that means that your glucose
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is going to start getting
low and you start getting that
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feeling in mid morning and
you then you have to sort of
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grab some of this
and grab some of that,
00:19:51.44\00:19:53.44
and that's going to
be very bad for your body
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because it's almost
always going to be refined
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carbohydrates, it's going to be
a soda, it's going to be chips,
00:19:57.01\00:20:00.11
it's going to be candy,
which is going to raise your
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triglycerides.
00:20:03.06\00:20:04.34
When your triglycerides go up,
now this is a new study coming
00:20:04.37\00:20:07.88
out of Rockefeller
University in New York City,
00:20:07.91\00:20:12.06
that when our triglycerides
rise in the body from eating
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high fat diets, it
can effect the brain,
00:20:15.60\00:20:18.37
it goes into the hypothalamus,
the hypothalamus produces
00:20:18.40\00:20:22.66
some neuro peptides
which then suppress the...
00:20:22.69\00:20:26.79
well not suppress the appetite,
it suppresses your ability
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to feel like you are full
and it makes you more hungry,
00:20:30.50\00:20:34.17
and so the more fat you
eat, besides the fact that it's
00:20:34.20\00:20:36.83
going to perhaps make you
more fat this way, it makes you
00:20:36.86\00:20:39.82
hungrier, so the best thing to
do is to lower the fat intake.
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But going back to the breakfast
it is the most important meal
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of the day, we find that
people that don't eat breakfast
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have more heart attacks
in the morning when most
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heart attacks occur.
00:20:52.25\00:20:53.30
So eating that good breakfast,
now people sit and say
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I can't eat breakfast, I get
sick, I don't feel like eating
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that's fine don't eat
breakfast, don't eat lunch,
00:21:00.63\00:21:04.53
and don't eat supper, the
next morning go back to the
00:21:04.56\00:21:08.38
breakfast table, if you
still can't eat breakfast,
00:21:08.41\00:21:10.72
don't eat it, and don't eat
lunch, and don't eat supper,
00:21:10.75\00:21:15.23
and the third morning when
you go to the breakfast table,
00:21:15.26\00:21:18.03
you must be hard core if
you can't eat breakfast yet.
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But if you can't eat breakfast
yet don't eat it, and don't eat
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lunch, and don't eat
supper, you do until finally
00:21:25.78\00:21:28.96
you sit there and say I
will eat anything including the
00:21:28.99\00:21:32.27
tablecloth, but now the key
is make sure what's on the table
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is good food,
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Remove temptation from the
plate here, get things that
00:21:37.41\00:21:42.62
you should not eat...
We had a patient come to
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Uchee Pines some years
ago, now he had prostate cancer,
00:21:44.46\00:21:48.06
and we don't just change their
lifestyle, while they are with
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us we give them a new lifestyle
and a new rest of their lives.
00:21:52.66\00:21:55.80
I remember one day I heard
him on the phone, he called home
00:21:55.83\00:21:58.35
he had an older child watching
his house while he was gone,
00:21:58.38\00:22:01.41
he say's oh, by the way,
everything in the refrigerator
00:22:01.44\00:22:03.73
everything in the freezer,
everything in the cupboards
00:22:03.76\00:22:07.68
you can have because
we can't eat it any more.
00:22:07.71\00:22:10.04
And he really cleaned out the
place so when you start looking
00:22:10.07\00:22:13.98
for those things
you should not have,
00:22:14.01\00:22:15.65
there not there anymore,
and then if you stock your home
00:22:15.68\00:22:18.62
with good foods, low fat foods,
complex carbohydrate foods like
00:22:18.65\00:22:23.23
some fruits and vegetable,
whole grains, nuts and seeds
00:22:23.26\00:22:26.02
in moderation those last two,
you are going to find that your
00:22:26.05\00:22:28.99
satiety factor is much more
satisfied, you feel like umm,
00:22:29.02\00:22:32.74
I've had a good meal,
I feel good about this.
00:22:32.77\00:22:35.23
Then I recommend when
people want to loose weight
00:22:35.26\00:22:38.16
is after they eat the
meal, they leave the scene
00:22:38.19\00:22:40.73
of the crime, my thought here
is you get done with the meal
00:22:40.76\00:22:44.41
and you leave the table.
00:22:44.44\00:22:45.48
So often you get done
eating and you are sitting there
00:22:45.51\00:22:49.44
and you look back
down at the table and
00:22:49.47\00:22:51.99
well that looks pretty
good and... you're just talking
00:22:52.02\00:22:56.60
around the table and you
are looking and there's one over
00:22:56.63\00:22:58.70
here, and you just keep
on eating and you never seem
00:22:58.73\00:23:03.10
to stop.
00:23:03.14\00:23:04.29
- Dr. Miller, in our
society it isn't appropriate
00:23:04.33\00:23:07.97
to leave the table while
there are still people eating.
00:23:08.00\00:23:11.74
How do you handle that?
00:23:11.77\00:23:13.57
- Well, that's a good question,
you know I travel a lot overseas
00:23:13.60\00:23:17.38
and depending on where you
go, I love Ukraine, they are my
00:23:17.41\00:23:20.53
second family over there
and they look at me and I'm...
00:23:20.56\00:23:24.06
they might use the word gaunt,
I use the word I'm a runners
00:23:24.09\00:23:28.55
physique, but they look
at me and they think have to
00:23:28.58\00:23:30.93
fatten me up, and so the
way that they fatten you up
00:23:30.96\00:23:33.98
is add more fat to the food,
well that's what their food is,
00:23:34.01\00:23:36.53
high fat food, and
why do we add fat to food?
00:23:36.56\00:23:40.23
Because it makes it taste
better, and so they are putting
00:23:40.26\00:23:42.74
all this fat in my food...
and I was there not long ago,
00:23:42.77\00:23:47.14
and I had taken two suits
with me, one suit is still
00:23:47.17\00:23:51.75
over there because I can't
get into that thing any more
00:23:51.78\00:23:53.37
at all, the second suit...
00:23:53.40\00:23:55.09
- They did fatten you up I see.
00:23:55.12\00:23:56.47
- Did they ever, and one
suit I had on, I bent down and
00:23:56.50\00:23:59.38
put a big air hole
in the back of that one,
00:23:59.41\00:24:01.38
and it had to be sewn back
up, but I found that when I went
00:24:01.41\00:24:04.98
back down to another country
like Moldova I got right back
00:24:05.01\00:24:08.20
down to my size.
00:24:08.23\00:24:09.46
- They understood about
not giving a lot of fats
00:24:09.49\00:24:12.48
with the food.
00:24:12.51\00:24:13.49
- There was not fat in
this food, or very little,
00:24:13.53\00:24:15.30
as soon as I get back up
to Ukraine, they say Ahh!
00:24:15.33\00:24:17.60
what happened, and they
start giving you the food.
00:24:17.63\00:24:22.25
I love them for it, and I love,
the food, but it's a challenge.
00:24:22.28\00:24:25.43
- They are very hospitable.
00:24:25.46\00:24:26.89
- When there is still food
on the table, or they are still
00:24:26.92\00:24:29.82
around the table and you
are still there, now is time for
00:24:29.85\00:24:34.08
some will power, I
don't know any other...
00:24:34.11\00:24:35.76
do you have a
suggestion? - Let me ask you,
00:24:35.79\00:24:37.61
what if Aunt Jane comes
to you and says "Donald son,"
00:24:37.64\00:24:44.79
I have made this "just for
you," how do you handle that?
00:24:44.82\00:24:50.24
You know it's
something you should not eat.
00:24:50.27\00:24:52.75
- Well, I don't know if you are
going to like my answer because
00:24:52.78\00:24:55.69
I've been in this situation.
00:24:55.72\00:24:57.14
When I first became a vegan,
I was getting ready to go home
00:24:57.17\00:25:02.47
to Cincinnati and my wonderful
sister was there and she knew
00:25:02.50\00:25:05.90
I had become a vegetarian
so she made a special dish
00:25:05.93\00:25:09.44
just for me, Manicotti!
00:25:09.47\00:25:11.67
- What is that?
00:25:11.71\00:25:13.12
- It's pasta filled with cheese.
00:25:13.15\00:25:14.97
- Oh yes!
00:25:15.00\00:25:16.29
- And I didn't know what
to do, you go home and...
00:25:16.33\00:25:19.37
and to me as long as it
does not violate my moral code
00:25:19.40\00:25:25.64
unclean meats, I think cheese
is almost in that category
00:25:25.67\00:25:29.68
but the point I was at I ate
some, I didn't pig out on it,
00:25:29.71\00:25:33.86
but I ate some, she
had made that just for me.
00:25:33.89\00:25:37.27
If Aunt Jane or Aunt
Sue, whatever her name is,
00:25:37.30\00:25:39.70
makes me a dish,
correct me if I am wrong,
00:25:39.73\00:25:43.45
and I say alright there's
no pork in there, there's no
00:25:43.48\00:25:46.51
rattlesnake, there's no camel,
maybe a little bit of milk,
00:25:46.54\00:25:49.52
although nowadays we are living
in a strange world, prions and
00:25:49.55\00:25:52.77
e- coli, and everything else...
00:25:52.80\00:25:55.09
- It's a hard
thing, I understand.
00:25:55.12\00:25:59.10
- The key is making sure
that they know before you even
00:25:59.13\00:26:01.89
go there, I'm sorry,
I am a complete vegan.
00:26:01.92\00:26:05.31
I was once eating at my sister's
home, and my brother-in-law
00:26:05.34\00:26:09.10
brought home pizza's for supper,
well I can't eat the pizza.
00:26:09.13\00:26:12.07
- Covered with cheese,
covered with pepperoni's.
00:26:12.10\00:26:13.56
- Of course, and I says well
I'm sorry, I really can't eat
00:26:13.59\00:26:16.02
that but I will eat your
crusts, and as they would finish
00:26:16.05\00:26:19.41
their pizza, I
would gather their crusts,
00:26:19.44\00:26:22.28
and my brother-in-law
told my sister afterwards,
00:26:22.31\00:26:24.51
he said I was so
humiliated by what he did.
00:26:24.54\00:26:27.31
So now when I am at their
house, they will bring home
00:26:27.34\00:26:29.69
a pizza with no cheese on it.
00:26:29.72\00:26:31.10
- No cheese on
it, that sounds good.
00:26:31.13\00:26:32.31
Well I have found that
often that does happen,
00:26:32.34\00:26:35.22
but it's a hard thing to
deal with that kind of problem.
00:26:35.25\00:26:39.74
I know that one of the most
successful things as a physician
00:26:39.77\00:26:45.80
that I have done is to help
a woman loose weight when she
00:26:45.83\00:26:50.40
was 100 Lbs. over weight,
had a large diabetic ulcer,
00:26:50.43\00:26:54.88
had already lost the feeling
in both legs, she felt that she
00:26:54.91\00:27:00.54
was not going to survive another
month, and during the time that
00:27:00.57\00:27:05.23
she was at Uchee Pines, she
did loose about 65 or 70 Lbs.
00:27:05.26\00:27:10.40
She was with us about 6
or 7 months as I recall,
00:27:10.43\00:27:14.35
had an enormous
weight loss, very successful,
00:27:14.38\00:27:18.38
the leg ulcer healed up,
she got so that she could walk
00:27:18.41\00:27:22.62
without a walker or a cane.
00:27:22.65\00:27:24.31
It was just a
really great success story.
00:27:24.34\00:27:27.94
So I hope that the things that
we have talked with you about
00:27:27.97\00:27:31.59
concerning how to control
the weight will be an eternal
00:27:31.62\00:27:35.70
blessing to you.
00:27:35.73\00:27:36.81
That you will not
only benefit in this life,
00:27:36.84\00:27:39.53
but that in the life to
come you can praise the Lord for
00:27:39.56\00:27:43.03
the victories that you have
won in controlling the appetite
00:27:43.06\00:27:47.31
and what happens in one
area, can also give you strength
00:27:47.34\00:27:50.66
and moral
courage in another area.
00:27:50.69\00:27:53.12
May God Bless you!
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