A number of years ago I graduated from medical school 00:00:01.98\00:00:05.63 expected that through the drugs and surgery that I had learned 00:00:05.66\00:00:10.08 to use well in medical school and then subsequently in my 00:00:10.11\00:00:13.81 training, I though that disease would respond to all these 00:00:13.84\00:00:19.84 things, and that I needed never to be looking anywhere 00:00:19.87\00:00:24.04 else for any kind of remedy, apart from that, that I learned 00:00:24.07\00:00:27.59 in medical school. 00:00:27.62\00:00:28.72 Four years of intensive training made me feel pretty confident 00:00:28.75\00:00:33.97 that all the diseases that were known, we knew a remedy 00:00:34.00\00:00:37.78 for them except for a certain handful that we had not yet 00:00:37.81\00:00:41.97 discovered how to treat those but I was certain that before 00:00:42.00\00:00:46.13 to long we would. 00:00:46.16\00:00:47.37 So it came as somewhat of a surprise to me that when I 00:00:47.40\00:00:51.03 went into practice, people weren't cured as well as I 00:00:51.06\00:00:54.57 thought they should be, so we began to think about some other 00:00:54.60\00:00:58.59 kind of remedy, and I remember the discussion that my husband 00:00:58.62\00:01:01.55 and I had, there must be some other way to treat people than 00:01:01.58\00:01:07.10 just the allopathic types, in investigating we found that 00:01:07.13\00:01:12.10 yes indeed, there a lot of those. 00:01:12.13\00:01:14.43 Maybe some of you have had the same kind of thought 00:01:14.46\00:01:17.84 how does medicine stack up with some of remedies that there are? 00:01:17.87\00:01:22.47 Maybe you would like to join us for this program because 00:01:22.51\00:01:25.40 we intend to discuss how some of us became interested in 00:01:25.43\00:01:29.99 natural remedies, what we might call physiologic remedies, 00:01:30.02\00:01:34.29 we hope you will join us. 00:01:34.32\00:01:35.44 Welcome to Help Yourself To Health 00:01:54.62\00:01:57.05 with Dr. Agatha Thrash of Uchee Pines Institute 00:01:57.08\00:02:00.33 and now here is your host Dr. Thrash. 00:02:00.36\00:02:03.31 Now I have with me today two people who are from 00:02:03.34\00:02:08.69 very different backgrounds, I would like to introduce them 00:02:08.72\00:02:12.25 to you now, one is Justina Thomas, and the other is 00:02:12.28\00:02:16.15 Donald Miller, Justina is a young woman, and Donald is a 00:02:16.18\00:02:23.49 middle aged man, and so you can see that right off there 00:02:23.52\00:02:28.36 are some big differences between these two. 00:02:28.39\00:02:30.64 Justina where did you grow up, where were you born, 00:02:30.67\00:02:35.27 how did you get where you are? 00:02:35.30\00:02:36.75 - I was born if Ft. Worth, Texas and then my family moved to 00:02:36.78\00:02:42.60 Lincoln, Nebraska, and I grew up in Lincoln, Nebraska, 00:02:42.63\00:02:46.87 right close to the college. 00:02:46.90\00:02:48.24 - I see, have you always lived in those two places in Texas 00:02:48.27\00:02:53.45 or in Lincoln, or have you somewhere else also? 00:02:53.48\00:02:56.39 After Lincoln we moved to Michigan and for the last 00:02:56.42\00:03:01.59 four years I've lived there. - Near a college? 00:03:01.62\00:03:03.98 - Yes actually! Andrews University. 00:03:04.01\00:03:07.34 - Your family have been closely associated with two universities 00:03:07.37\00:03:12.02 then, one in Lincoln, Nebraska, and one in Michigan. 00:03:12.05\00:03:16.04 How did you grow up, did you go to the usual public schools, 00:03:16.07\00:03:21.93 or just what kind of schooling have you had? 00:03:21.96\00:03:24.02 Well I started out in a little grade school it's one room 00:03:24.05\00:03:29.65 all the way from first thru seventh and then I did opposite 00:03:29.68\00:03:34.97 of what most people do, and I home schooled through 00:03:35.00\00:03:37.76 high school. - I see home schooled 00:03:37.79\00:03:41.47 all the way through high school. 00:03:41.50\00:03:42.50 - Yes! - Now you went to regular 00:03:42.53\00:03:46.22 school, was it a public school or a church school? 00:03:46.25\00:03:50.06 - It was a church school! 00:03:50.09\00:03:51.24 - One room school, few students! - Yeah! I think 27 or less! 00:03:51.27\00:03:56.77 - How many teachers did you have? 00:03:56.80\00:03:58.56 - There was two teachers! - Two teachers, so each one had 00:03:58.59\00:04:01.59 about 13 or 14 students, pretty high student to teacher ratio. 00:04:01.62\00:04:08.09 And then you were in home school, was that a one to one 00:04:08.12\00:04:13.43 ratio, or were there others, do you have brothers and sisters? 00:04:13.46\00:04:16.04 - I do, for me that was a one to two ratio! 00:04:16.07\00:04:19.39 - One to two! - Myself and my younger brother! 00:04:19.42\00:04:21.69 - I see! Now how many children are in your family? 00:04:21.72\00:04:25.65 - There are eight in my family! - Eight in your family! 00:04:25.68\00:04:28.43 Oh, and I understand that you have a twin! 00:04:28.46\00:04:31.75 - Yes! - That's a bit of a distinction! 00:04:31.78\00:04:34.82 - Yes! - So I'm sure that growing up 00:04:34.85\00:04:39.18 in a small school, two students in the school, principally gave 00:04:39.21\00:04:46.28 you a lot of teacher attention, you had both experiences 00:04:46.31\00:04:52.66 church school and home school, which did you like the best? 00:04:52.69\00:04:58.48 - I would say probably the home school because you can dive into 00:04:58.51\00:05:05.16 more what you are interested in, I got to learn to ride horses 00:05:05.19\00:05:09.25 and the opportunity was much less when I was in school. 00:05:09.28\00:05:12.59 - Oh yes! I guess so, they don't usually have horses in 00:05:12.62\00:05:16.86 grammar school. - Right! 00:05:16.89\00:05:18.17 - What about, did you have a garden at your house? 00:05:18.20\00:05:22.09 - We did, in Lincoln we lived in the city, but my step dad 00:05:22.12\00:05:26.46 loved to garden so he pulled up all the plants, the flowers 00:05:26.49\00:05:29.45 and he planted tomatoes and peppers, so we had just around 00:05:29.48\00:05:33.20 the house. - He plowed up the lawn and 00:05:33.23\00:05:35.53 planted vegetables. - Yep! 00:05:35.56\00:05:38.08 - Well that sounds very innovative, what about 00:05:38.11\00:05:41.67 in Michigan, did you have an opportunity for a garden there? 00:05:41.70\00:05:45.00 - In Michigan we didn't have a garden. 00:05:45.03\00:05:46.67 - You didn't have a garden, and lived in a town! 00:05:46.70\00:05:48.50 - Yes! - I see! 00:05:48.53\00:05:49.69 Were you required to do chores as you grew up? 00:05:49.72\00:05:54.35 - Oh yes, lots of them! - I see, How did you come to 00:05:54.38\00:05:58.06 know the Lord? - I guess for me partially 00:05:58.09\00:06:03.65 you could say from me growing up with my family! 00:06:03.68\00:06:06.68 But for me one day sticks in my head and I remember I was 00:06:06.71\00:06:10.90 scrubbing the floor downstairs at the bottom of the stairs 00:06:10.93\00:06:14.75 and I was doing it very self righteously because my brothers 00:06:14.78\00:06:19.71 were out playing and I was the only one working, so I was 00:06:19.74\00:06:23.54 scrubbing this floor and my step mom called me upstairs 00:06:23.57\00:06:27.13 and I can't remember exactly what the conversation was about 00:06:27.17\00:06:31.48 but I remember that the Lord really impressed me that I was 00:06:31.51\00:06:35.31 a sinner and that I really needed a Saviour, 00:06:35.34\00:06:37.51 and so I asked her, well, what do I do, and she repeated to me 00:06:37.54\00:06:42.55 if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive 00:06:42.58\00:06:45.70 us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness, 00:06:45.73\00:06:48.34 so we prayed and I asked Jesus into my life. 00:06:48.37\00:06:51.36 - That's very good, it sounds as if you had a very good 00:06:51.39\00:06:55.03 experience there with your step mother. 00:06:55.06\00:06:57.13 Now it seems that home schooling, gardening, and 00:06:57.16\00:07:02.99 home remedies go together, did you practice home remedies 00:07:03.02\00:07:06.09 in your home? 00:07:06.13\00:07:07.28 - A little, to the best of our ability. 00:07:07.31\00:07:10.66 - Do you remember any that you've practiced? 00:07:10.69\00:07:14.09 - I did whenever I got a sore throat my mom used to put a 00:07:14.12\00:07:17.38 wash cloth around my throat and I would sleep with it. 00:07:17.41\00:07:21.18 - I see, well that's a good remedy, actually the home remedy 00:07:21.21\00:07:26.48 of putting a heating compress around the throat, it's a very 00:07:26.51\00:07:29.67 physiological remedy, one that can do a lot of good for a 00:07:29.70\00:07:34.63 sore throat, even for a cough put the cloth around the neck, 00:07:34.66\00:07:39.38 a heating compress around the neck, the wash cloth with 00:07:39.41\00:07:43.06 something around it to keep it from evaporating, and then 00:07:43.09\00:07:46.72 bind it on with a bandage, let it stay on overnight 00:07:46.75\00:07:49.93 then you will find that the next morning you will have a 00:07:49.96\00:07:54.25 much nicer throat than you would have had if you had not 00:07:54.28\00:07:57.10 used that very nice physiologic remedy. 00:07:57.13\00:08:00.11 Now I like to call the remedies physiologic because they are 00:08:00.14\00:08:05.28 based on physiologic principles. 00:08:05.31\00:08:07.39 Don Miller, where were you born? 00:08:07.42\00:08:12.42 I was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. - Cincinnati, did you grow up 00:08:12.45\00:08:15.84 there? - I grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio! 00:08:15.87\00:08:18.05 - Home schooled? - No, no, no, I was one of those 00:08:18.08\00:08:23.34 that went to school at five years like everyone else did 00:08:23.37\00:08:27.18 and we're told that some boys especially should not go to 00:08:27.21\00:08:31.60 school that early, I remember distinctly my first day 00:08:31.63\00:08:34.43 of schools in Kindergarten. 00:08:34.46\00:08:35.78 In my school, it was Oakley Elementary, it was a huge 00:08:35.81\00:08:38.77 cavernous school there in the Oakley suburb of Cincinnati, 00:08:38.80\00:08:42.52 and there were two kindergartens, one on one side 00:08:42.55\00:08:46.76 it had windows all the way around one side, it had a 00:08:46.79\00:08:51.01 playground right outside, it was a beautiful, beautiful 00:08:51.04\00:08:53.76 dwelling, the other one was way down in the basement 00:08:53.79\00:08:56.63 next to the cafeteria, I was assigned to the college prep 00:08:56.66\00:09:01.30 kindergarten as it were, and I remember that day walking in, 00:09:01.33\00:09:04.35 my mother walked me to the school, let me off at the door, 00:09:04.38\00:09:07.54 and here I was the first time away from my mother, 00:09:07.57\00:09:10.40 away from my grandmother and my great grandmother who I 00:09:10.43\00:09:12.33 grew up with, and this big lady walks up and she says 00:09:12.36\00:09:16.84 what's your name? 00:09:16.87\00:09:18.00 I looked up and my mouth fell open and I couldn't say a word, 00:09:18.03\00:09:23.07 and it wasn't to long before they took me by the hand 00:09:23.10\00:09:27.18 and led me down to the other side of the building into the 00:09:27.21\00:09:30.34 other kindergarten class, and I believe that act marked me 00:09:30.37\00:09:34.32 for the rest of my schooling because I never liked school. 00:09:34.35\00:09:36.80 Did not like school! 00:09:36.83\00:09:38.83 - It's amazing that you have gone on and on and on 00:09:38.86\00:09:43.18 in school until now you have a doctorate. 00:09:43.21\00:09:45.53 But let me learn a little bit more about schooling, 00:09:45.56\00:09:50.29 you never had a day of home schooling? 00:09:50.32\00:09:52.36 - I can't remember a day! - What about a garden? 00:09:52.39\00:09:55.37 - Well, you know if I was home schooled at all it was maybe 00:09:55.40\00:09:59.48 if I got sick my grandmother might have read to me, but 00:09:59.51\00:10:03.61 at a certain point in my life we bought a farm, we had a home 00:10:03.64\00:10:07.86 in the city, and my grandmother and greet grandmother lived 00:10:07.89\00:10:10.37 on this farm where we had a huge garden, and I did do a lot 00:10:10.40\00:10:14.08 of gardening in the summer time when I went up there 00:10:14.11\00:10:16.14 and I loved the farm, I think children should be out free as 00:10:16.17\00:10:19.80 lambs in the gardens and in the fields and that's where I 00:10:19.83\00:10:22.14 loved it the best. 00:10:22.17\00:10:23.50 - Yes! Now what about home remedies? 00:10:23.53\00:10:26.27 As I mentioned home schooling, home remedies, and doing chores 00:10:26.30\00:10:32.99 and gardening, they seem to go together. 00:10:33.02\00:10:37.00 You didn't have the home schooling, only part of 00:10:37.03\00:10:40.62 your life did you have the garden, did you have the 00:10:40.65\00:10:43.81 home remedies? 00:10:43.84\00:10:44.81 - Well I can remember when I had a bad sore throat, 00:10:44.82\00:10:47.95 my mother would paint my throat with iodine, that was a natural 00:10:47.98\00:10:51.89 simple treatment back then, I don't remember any other 00:10:51.92\00:10:56.94 natural treatments in my young life, just grin and bear it. 00:10:56.97\00:10:59.42 - When you grew up did you have any kind of military training? 00:10:59.46\00:11:05.93 - Any type of military training! I spent my entire adult life 00:11:05.96\00:11:10.82 institutionalized. 00:11:10.85\00:11:12.04 After college I joined the Marine Corp, and I spent 00:11:12.07\00:11:15.83 14 years in the Marine Corp, three years enlisted, 00:11:15.86\00:11:18.17 11 years officer, got out, I spent one year in a small farm 00:11:18.20\00:11:22.55 in Missouri, and then I came to Uchee Pines, so I spent 00:11:22.58\00:11:26.00 a lot of time in the Marine Corp which I really attribute to why 00:11:26.03\00:11:29.56 I am in pretty good shape now, because you are very active. 00:11:29.59\00:11:33.13 The more you are active as a young person, the better it's 00:11:33.16\00:11:36.18 going to protect you as an older person, so I am thankful 00:11:36.21\00:11:38.68 for that one part or experience in the military. 00:11:38.71\00:11:42.22 - That's good! What about how did you become 00:11:42.25\00:11:44.69 interested in natural remedies then if you didn't have a lot 00:11:44.72\00:11:49.00 when you were growing up? 00:11:49.03\00:11:50.11 - Ok, when I was stationed in my last duty station Cherry Point, 00:11:50.14\00:11:53.57 North Carolina, I had come back into the church, 00:11:53.60\00:11:57.34 I was basically raised in the church, left the church for 00:11:57.37\00:12:00.44 a long period of time, came back in when I came back from 00:12:00.47\00:12:02.74 over seas in 75, in Key West, Florida, I had a pastor and his 00:12:02.77\00:12:07.07 wife who had just come to that church, Pastor and Sister 00:12:07.10\00:12:11.06 Zill and they loved me into the church, I spent every 00:12:11.09\00:12:14.99 afternoon on Sabbath in their home up to the evening time. 00:12:15.02\00:12:19.01 That's where I got my first natural treatments, I had a 00:12:19.04\00:12:22.23 bad cold one time and Sister Zill 20 hot fomentations 00:12:22.26\00:12:26.81 on my chest and back. 00:12:26.84\00:12:28.46 She had been 20 years in India and that's what they did 00:12:28.49\00:12:31.16 over there, but when I got to my last duty station 00:12:31.19\00:12:34.09 Cherry Point, North Carolina, I met another family in the 00:12:34.12\00:12:37.33 church that were interested in natural remedies... 00:12:37.36\00:12:39.66 My mother went to a seminar in her church in Cincinnati and 00:12:39.69\00:12:44.42 there was a lady that came to the church giving a seminar 00:12:44.45\00:12:47.34 by the name of Dr. Agatha Thrash. 00:12:47.37\00:12:49.25 - Oh! - Yes! And my mother always buys 00:12:49.28\00:12:52.45 a stack of books, and she sent me some of the books, 00:12:52.48\00:12:54.67 one was Home Remedies, well I look at this book and I shared 00:12:54.71\00:12:57.92 it with my friend, this book Home Remedies, and we thought 00:12:57.95\00:13:00.18 well! let's do these things, and then we got the wild idea 00:13:00.21\00:13:03.54 let's have Dr. Thrash come to our church, and 00:13:03.57\00:13:07.19 it's interesting she was on the tour at the time, 00:13:07.22\00:13:11.22 and we called Uchee Pines, and the word was passed 00:13:11.25\00:13:18.60 to Dr. Thrash, yes! we can come down we have a two day opening! 00:13:18.63\00:13:20.83 Well I was out of the Marine Corps by then, so I was out in 00:13:20.86\00:13:24.26 Missouri but my friend found out that you all have simple 00:13:24.29\00:13:29.07 remedies in preventive medicine seminars, and so two months 00:13:29.10\00:13:32.72 after the Marine Corp, you used to have a 00:13:32.75\00:13:34.75 Christmas seminar, I was at Uchee Pines December 1984, 00:13:35.61\00:13:39.12 at a Simple Remedies of Preventive Medicine Seminar. 00:13:39.15\00:13:41.85 - Did anything ever happen when you were growing up, or at any 00:13:41.88\00:13:44.91 time in your life that made it so that you could say, 00:13:44.94\00:13:48.89 I developed an interest in the human body and it's illnesses 00:13:48.92\00:13:53.85 and how to treat it, did anything of that nature ever 00:13:53.88\00:13:57.37 direct your thoughts towards eventually going in to this 00:13:57.40\00:14:01.68 kind of work? 00:14:01.71\00:14:02.68 - It's funny Dr. Thrash, I was always interested in Anatomy 00:14:02.69\00:14:07.35 and Physiology as a child, I used to like to play with 00:14:07.38\00:14:09.67 modeling clay, and I would make little human beings 00:14:09.70\00:14:12.41 out of modeling clay, with all the little organs in there, 00:14:12.44\00:14:15.34 and then I would put them all together, and then I would 00:14:15.37\00:14:18.29 open them up and I would do operations. 00:14:18.32\00:14:19.87 I had a teddy bear, I remember getting a teddy bear as a 00:14:19.90\00:14:23.84 young child, my poor teddy bear, had surgical scars all over it. 00:14:23.87\00:14:27.70 I like to do..., now this is really natural remedies, 00:14:27.73\00:14:30.19 maybe replacing some stuffing is a natural remedy, but I was 00:14:30.22\00:14:34.63 interested in these types of things, but beyond that I really 00:14:34.66\00:14:37.72 can't say that I had a whole lot of interest in really 00:14:37.75\00:14:40.55 natural things, I was sort of into the tincture of cold steel. 00:14:40.58\00:14:44.30 - Justina, did anything in your life make it so that you 00:14:44.33\00:14:50.27 developed in things medical? 00:14:50.30\00:14:51.28 - Umm! For me I am kind of like Don Miller, I always liked 00:14:51.31\00:14:58.00 medical things that I would learn, for natural remedies 00:14:58.03\00:15:02.81 for me the thing that really solidified it in my mind 00:15:02.84\00:15:05.45 was when I was in Guyana and I got to watch the people 00:15:05.48\00:15:11.01 that would come to the clinic, and we would treat them mostly 00:15:11.04\00:15:14.45 worms and headache, but once in awhile they would come in 00:15:14.48\00:15:16.94 needing suturing. - I see! 00:15:16.97\00:15:18.83 - And when I finished that I felt really like this is what I 00:15:18.86\00:15:22.54 want to do. - Who did the suturing, 00:15:22.57\00:15:24.51 did you have a physician there? 00:15:24.54\00:15:26.03 - No there was a nurse! - And she did the suturing? 00:15:26.06\00:15:29.30 - She did the suturing! - Really! Well you know it this 00:15:29.33\00:15:32.11 country nurses don't do suturing, you think she did a 00:15:32.14\00:15:34.86 good job? - Yeah! 00:15:34.89\00:15:36.86 - So a person may not need especially to be graduated from 00:15:36.89\00:15:43.13 a medical school and put the M.D. after the name to be able 00:15:43.16\00:15:47.14 to do some of these procedures, is that correct? 00:15:47.17\00:15:49.62 - Yes! That's correct! - I believe that too, 00:15:49.65\00:15:51.67 I think that while physicians have been specially trained in 00:15:51.70\00:15:54.89 this, we can train other people in field situations, we need 00:15:54.92\00:15:59.34 people trained so that a person who is sick or injured need not 00:15:59.37\00:16:04.29 suffer endlessly without some kind of help that nurses and 00:16:04.32\00:16:09.14 physical therapists, and people who have been trained as 00:16:09.17\00:16:13.58 Lifestyle Counselors, that all of these kinds of people can be 00:16:13.61\00:16:17.05 trained to do very simple procedures that otherwise 00:16:17.08\00:16:20.27 would not be done, or not be done well, so I think we should 00:16:20.30\00:16:24.44 train people to do these procedures well so that they 00:16:24.47\00:16:27.32 could go to any mission station in the world and do a really 00:16:27.35\00:16:31.25 quality work. 00:16:31.28\00:16:32.56 How did you become interested in the student program 00:16:32.59\00:16:36.06 at Uchee Pines? 00:16:36.09\00:16:37.31 - I was coming back to the states from Guyana and thinking 00:16:37.34\00:16:43.32 about where am I going to go and to what place to get 00:16:43.35\00:16:46.33 schooling, and different members of my family had your 00:16:46.36\00:16:50.29 book, so we heard of Uchee Pines and so we just looked them up 00:16:50.32\00:16:54.35 on the internet and learned about the student program 00:16:54.38\00:16:57.34 that way. - I see! 00:16:57.37\00:16:58.56 How long have you been at Uchee Pines now? 00:16:58.59\00:17:01.82 - I think about a year and a half! 00:17:01.85\00:17:03.94 - A year and a half, you have taken the lifestyle educator 00:17:03.97\00:17:06.13 course, and the lifestyle counselor course, and I was 00:17:06.16\00:17:10.66 one of your teachers in both of those courses, as we have 00:17:10.69\00:17:15.13 been very happy to have you as a student. 00:17:15.16\00:17:17.53 Dr. Miller did you come to Uchee Pines as a student? 00:17:17.56\00:17:21.36 - No! No, it's funny, I came to Uchee Pines as a result of a 00:17:21.39\00:17:26.92 call to Uchee Pines, my friend who was from North Carolina 00:17:26.95\00:17:30.86 came to the same seminar, he stayed on staff a year later 00:17:30.89\00:17:34.07 he talked with the administrator, the administrator 00:17:34.10\00:17:37.78 gave me a call to come work in public affairs and so I was 00:17:37.81\00:17:40.32 working in public affairs and my mindset was always, 00:17:40.35\00:17:44.59 I don't have the time to take a year off to take the course. 00:17:44.62\00:17:47.68 The Lord is coming soon, there is to much to do, I am going to 00:17:47.71\00:17:50.67 do this work, but I kept hearing the students coming and giving 00:17:50.70\00:17:54.96 testimonies in front of our assemblies about the wonderful 00:17:54.99\00:17:59.42 experience with their patients and all that they were doing 00:17:59.45\00:18:01.62 and I was sitting there drooling almost, thinking oh! I want this 00:18:01.65\00:18:04.74 experience, and after three years I decided I am going to 00:18:04.77\00:18:07.89 take a year off, and of course that was about 16 years ago 00:18:07.92\00:18:11.58 that I took the year off and took the course and I will 00:18:11.61\00:18:14.64 be forever grateful to take that year off and to study 00:18:14.67\00:18:19.20 natural remedies that I can be able to be a benefit to 00:18:19.23\00:18:21.96 people right now all around the world. 00:18:21.99\00:18:24.28 - When you first heard of natural remedies, 00:18:24.31\00:18:27.71 I heard you mention something about 00:18:27.75\00:18:30.33 the cold steel and doing these little operations. 00:18:30.36\00:18:33.31 Did you believe from the start 00:18:33.34\00:18:35.43 that natural remedies would really work? 00:18:35.46\00:18:37.77 - No! You know natural remedies take us a little bit of faith 00:18:37.80\00:18:42.52 to begin with, when you learn a treatment you will receive 00:18:42.55\00:18:48.48 I believe and opportunity shortly thereafter to use that 00:18:48.51\00:18:51.44 treatment and if you don't you will loose it, but it's using 00:18:51.47\00:18:54.17 the treatments over and over again that really gives you an 00:18:54.26\00:18:57.92 unbelievable profound belief in these treatments, 00:18:57.95\00:19:00.53 and I have had them work on myself, as a matter of fact 00:19:00.56\00:19:02.61 I let them work on me first. 00:19:02.64\00:19:04.34 If I have a problem, I use a natural remedy, when I see 00:19:04.37\00:19:07.55 the unbelievable results of the treatment it makes it 00:19:07.58\00:19:11.16 in my mind a sure thing. 00:19:11.19\00:19:12.86 When I was in the military, if you get a cold you go to the 00:19:12.89\00:19:15.65 dispensary and you ask for a cold pack, now at Uchee Pines 00:19:15.68\00:19:18.31 if you ask for a cold pack, you'll get a bag of ice 00:19:18.34\00:19:21.07 or something like this, a cold fomentation, a cold sits bath 00:19:21.10\00:19:25.54 or something. 00:19:25.57\00:19:26.54 There is a bag of Cepacol and aspirin and other things 00:19:26.55\00:19:30.62 like this, and so I like the simple remedies, having used 00:19:30.65\00:19:34.07 them, and I have seen miraculous results in using 00:19:34.10\00:19:37.97 God's simple remedies, and I am totally and completely 00:19:38.00\00:19:41.64 convinced and convicted. 00:19:41.68\00:19:43.17 - Justina how about you did you look at natural remedies 00:19:43.20\00:19:47.14 an you think, well these will work? 00:19:47.17\00:19:48.92 Was that your attitude also? 00:19:48.95\00:19:51.65 No, I would say I was a doubter until I saw them work on myself 00:19:51.68\00:19:59.45 and on others. - I see, what cured your doubts, 00:19:59.48\00:20:02.91 was there some special remedy that you had for a sickness 00:20:02.94\00:20:06.69 that worked? 00:20:06.72\00:20:07.69 Do you remember any special case of sickness that you had 00:20:07.70\00:20:13.17 and you had a remedy work for you? 00:20:13.20\00:20:15.59 - I know I was sick once at Uchee Pines and the girls were 00:20:15.62\00:20:21.63 like oh yes, let's work on you, so they loaded me into the 00:20:21.66\00:20:26.86 bathtub for a fever treatment and I remember I was kind of 00:20:26.89\00:20:31.40 surprised that it actually worked and I didn't ever get 00:20:31.43\00:20:34.94 really sick. - Yes! That was my experience 00:20:34.97\00:20:38.13 too, I had no faith in it, I really felt that we ought to 00:20:38.16\00:20:43.25 do these remedies, because they at least would not do any 00:20:43.28\00:20:46.63 harm, and you could support the patient's psychologically 00:20:46.66\00:20:50.37 until they just naturally got well, but I don't know that I 00:20:50.40\00:20:54.69 really understood, I didn't understand that they were 00:20:54.72\00:20:57.33 physiologic from the beginning, but very shortly I began to 00:20:57.36\00:21:02.22 recognize that they are based on firm physiologic principles. 00:21:02.25\00:21:06.22 So I got out my physiology books that I had had in 00:21:06.25\00:21:10.72 medical school, I had always loved physiology, 00:21:10.75\00:21:13.65 but it was mainly the physics that I liked of it, 00:21:13.68\00:21:16.17 it was not the clinical application of physiology. 00:21:16.20\00:21:18.90 So I got out these books and began to pour through them 00:21:18.93\00:21:22.47 again and study just how blood vessels respond to such things 00:21:22.50\00:21:28.02 as heat, and pressure, and massage, and also how the 00:21:28.05\00:21:33.82 chemistry of the body responds to herbal remedies, 00:21:33.85\00:21:36.86 and it wasn't long before I had firm faith in the simple 00:21:36.89\00:21:42.64 remedies, just as firm faith as I ever had, even in my most 00:21:42.67\00:21:48.67 adoring phase of loving medicine, I have gotten so that 00:21:48.70\00:21:53.50 I have that same intense faith in the simple remedies. 00:21:53.53\00:21:58.02 Now we have graduation once a year at Uchee Pines, 00:21:58.05\00:22:03.44 we don't call it graduation, we call it a dedication, 00:22:03.47\00:22:06.39 do you know why we do that Dr. Miller? 00:22:06.42\00:22:09.74 - Well you know graduation is not a bad term, basically 00:22:09.77\00:22:12.91 it probably comes through something that graduates, 00:22:12.94\00:22:15.93 you go from one level to the next level and truly graduation 00:22:15.96\00:22:20.39 is that, we've gone from one level to the next but when we 00:22:20.42\00:22:24.43 train our people it's not just an academic training or even a 00:22:24.46\00:22:27.70 training in Anatomy and Physiology and natural remedies 00:22:27.73\00:22:30.25 it's a holistic training where we train the spiritual person 00:22:30.28\00:22:34.23 and mental person and social person and the physical person 00:22:34.26\00:22:37.80 so we have classes in each one of these facets, and so when 00:22:37.83\00:22:41.77 they get done we're setting them aside for a special work. 00:22:41.80\00:22:46.03 We believe that God needs medical missionaries 00:22:46.06\00:22:48.33 in the last days and rather than say of you're graduated, 00:22:48.36\00:22:51.67 move the tassel to the other side, here's your paper 00:22:51.70\00:22:53.93 go to the other side of the line, we have them come forward 00:22:53.96\00:22:57.77 and they kneel and the elders come forward and lay their hands 00:22:57.80\00:23:00.92 upon them and we have a dedication, dedicating them to a 00:23:00.95\00:23:04.07 work ahead of them because there is a big work to do 00:23:04.10\00:23:06.42 all around the world, and we have students from all around 00:23:06.45\00:23:09.20 the world who have come to Uchee Pines, and right now 00:23:09.23\00:23:11.49 we have workers all over the world and we dedicate them 00:23:11.52\00:23:14.89 setting them aside as something special, so that's basically 00:23:14.92\00:23:19.33 why we do this Dr. Thrash. 00:23:19.36\00:23:20.87 - What are some of the places in the world that Uchee Pines 00:23:20.90\00:23:24.94 has missionaries practicing right now? 00:23:24.97\00:23:26.91 - Oh Wow! That's a tough question to take off the top 00:23:26.94\00:23:30.70 of my head, we've got them in Switzerland, France, 00:23:30.73\00:23:35.04 we're talking about graduates from Uchee Pines, or people 00:23:35.07\00:23:38.02 who have been trained by people from Uchee Pines, we've got 00:23:38.05\00:23:40.40 them in Russia, Ukraine, Africa, we've got them in the Far East, 00:23:40.43\00:23:46.02 Japan, Korea, India, matter of fact your granddaughters right 00:23:46.05\00:23:50.85 now are practicing in India. - Right now they are right there 00:23:50.88\00:23:54.00 in India, they went through the Tsunami a few hundred 00:23:54.03\00:23:59.32 miles away, we were glad for that, we have them also in 00:23:59.35\00:24:02.90 Nepal, and northern and southern India, and South America, 00:24:02.93\00:24:10.56 and all over the Orient. 00:24:10.59\00:24:13.15 - I think every where but Antarctica. 00:24:13.18\00:24:14.66 - Yes, and we have sent missionaries there on 00:24:14.69\00:24:18.77 brief missions, no not to Antarctica, yes, Arctic. 00:24:18.80\00:24:23.20 What are some of the ways that our graduates find to work 00:24:23.23\00:24:29.77 when they leave Uchee Pines? 00:24:29.80\00:24:31.23 - It's a creative process, there are calls all the time 00:24:31.26\00:24:35.62 of people needing, you know this Macedonian call is out there, 00:24:35.65\00:24:39.11 now we have some missionaries, some graduates from Uchee Pines 00:24:39.14\00:24:42.88 who have gone with Adventist Frontier Missions and they are 00:24:42.91\00:24:47.25 serving right now, and have served with Adventist Frontier 00:24:47.28\00:24:49.72 Missions, so that's a ready place to take people up. 00:24:49.75\00:24:52.73 We have had our graduates go to other institutions that we 00:24:52.76\00:24:55.50 are associated with, and we have helped to establish, 00:24:55.53\00:24:59.18 there are a couple in Ukraine, and we are working on a third 00:24:59.21\00:25:04.06 one in Ukraine, we've got places in France and all around 00:25:04.09\00:25:08.11 the world and so basically these places, Uchee Pines is 00:25:08.14\00:25:11.85 always needing qualified workers and so many times we absorb 00:25:11.88\00:25:15.47 them into ourselves. 00:25:15.50\00:25:16.60 But many times as people coming from a foreign country 00:25:16.63\00:25:19.53 getting the training and going home to help their own people. 00:25:19.56\00:25:23.02 We've got people go back into regular jobs, but they are 00:25:23.05\00:25:26.46 trained to do home to home- work, we've got people who 00:25:26.49\00:25:30.27 work in Sanitariums and help start Sanitariums, 00:25:30.30\00:25:33.02 we had one person come for a seminar, you might remember 00:25:33.05\00:25:36.98 Phil Brewer a number of years ago came for a two week seminar 00:25:37.01\00:25:39.41 went home and started a Sanitarium in British Colombia. 00:25:39.44\00:25:42.12 - Yes, it functioned for many years, until he retired. 00:25:42.15\00:25:46.01 Yes, they did a wonderful work there, any overseas places 00:25:46.04\00:25:50.73 that your have been to that were started by Uchee Pines? 00:25:50.76\00:25:53.42 - Well I remember there was a place called Nash Dom in the 00:25:53.45\00:25:56.56 little village of Naviabyhoti? in Ukraine, that I was there 00:25:56.59\00:26:02.10 and I worked training the workers who worked in there 00:26:02.13\00:26:04.73 and helped finish the building and when it opened a couple of 00:26:04.76\00:26:07.89 winters ago, it was opened with people who had been trained by 00:26:07.92\00:26:13.00 Uchee Pines, there was some Uchee Piners and other 00:26:13.03\00:26:14.99 institutions, Wildwood is involved in this, Koriukivka 00:26:15.02\00:26:19.45 down near the city of Nikolaev was basically started by 00:26:19.48\00:26:22.43 a doctor who... One of the people who started 00:26:22.46\00:26:25.28 it who came into the knowledge of this through a seminar that 00:26:25.31\00:26:28.26 we gave in Ukraine in 1995, Riverside Farms, there is a 00:26:28.29\00:26:34.62 Sanitarium being built, it might be built by now called Riverview 00:26:34.65\00:26:39.17 I've gone over there and trained the workers there, the students 00:26:39.20\00:26:42.83 there and so that's just a very few of them, so there are 00:26:42.86\00:26:46.95 institutions literally all around the world that we've got 00:26:46.98\00:26:50.09 our fingerprints on. 00:26:50.12\00:26:51.17 - Yes! And there are also some home institutions where a person 00:26:51.20\00:26:55.94 who has been trained at Uchee Pines will take in to 00:26:55.97\00:26:59.91 her or his home, a patient or two and do what they can 00:26:59.94\00:27:05.92 for the patient, we have one of these in New York 00:27:05.95\00:27:09.73 and one in California, we have one in Colorado, 00:27:09.76\00:27:13.13 there are some all over, many that I am not even remembering. 00:27:13.16\00:27:17.65 We have one in Puerto Rico that's functioning today just 00:27:17.68\00:27:21.95 a person trained at Uchee Pines decided to take people into 00:27:21.98\00:27:27.02 their own homes and do a quality work there, the same kind of 00:27:27.05\00:27:32.09 thing that we do at Uchee Pines. 00:27:32.12\00:27:34.20 We have a person in Jamaica, many people in Jamaica, 00:27:34.23\00:27:38.74 who are doing this same kind of work. 00:27:38.77\00:27:40.95 It's a really wonderful work, we are thankful to be in this 00:27:40.98\00:27:45.11 work, it's a solid work, a substantive work, and it's 00:27:45.14\00:27:49.51 especially blessed by God, we love being there, 00:27:49.54\00:27:52.75 we hope that you will come and visit us at Uchee Pines any time 00:27:52.78\00:27:55.98 you have the urge. 00:27:56.01\00:27:57.21