There are many
diseases in our day which are
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not recorded in
history, so we can call these
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Modern Society Diseases.
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Of course everybody knows
there have been a number of
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infectious diseases
that have arisen in the last
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twenty five years or so.
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But there are many
other diseases as well
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that are new on the scene.
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We want to discuss a
few of these in this program
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so we hope you will
join us for this discussion.
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Welcome to Help
Yourself To Health
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with Dr. Agatha Thrash
of Uchee Pines Institute,
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And now here is
your host Dr. Thrash.
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The food for the body
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and the food for the mind
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are similarly quite
effective in shaping who we are.
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Of course the food for the body
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must be as good as
we can possibly make it
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and we should
not discount the fact
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that food for the brain
should be just as carefully
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chosen, as is food for the body.
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So that means that,
the thoughts that we have
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the reactions that we
make toward other people
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just what we do with
our lives when we are alone.
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All of these things are
things that can influence
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the way that we think.
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There is a disease
called Schizophrenia.
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It has many different forms.
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It can be
catatonic, it can be simple,
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it can be hebephrenic, a
number of different names
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that the psychiatrists put on
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this topic of Schizophrenia.
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Generally the symptoms are,
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that the person may be withdrawn
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they don't quite
have a sense of reality
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and just where they are,
and where they are themselves
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positioned not only
emotionally and mentally
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but also to some degree, in
their physical world as well
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so they are not fully
in touch with reality.
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They may have
habits of being alone.
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They may at times
do destructive acts.
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They tend to have
a flattened affect
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that is they don't
generally have emotions
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that you would
expect at the right time.
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If they do express
an emotion, it is often
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either improper or out of place.
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So this describes to some
degree, what Schizophrenia is.
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We don't have
anything that exactly fits that
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in ancient history.
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Some people point to
the King Saul in the Bible
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as being an
example of Schizophrenia,
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but I think that he was
mainly depressed and angry,
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and this made his strange
reactions, because he was still
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quite
functional in his position,
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and people with Schizophrenia
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are often non-functional.
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There is a so called
walking type of Schizophrenia
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that requires just a little
medication, and the person
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can carry on quite well.
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But for the most part
people with Schizophrenia
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are really quite
sick with their disease.
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Now the negativism
they show often makes them
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not good companions,
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and people often don't
enjoy being around them
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they don't enjoy
having them in their home.
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Sometimes poor woman
will decide, if I were just
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to marry this man who
shows some mild signs of
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Schizophrenia, I could just
straighten him out very nicely.
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But she marries him and
the stresses of marriage
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precipitate a full blown crisis,
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and he has to be hospitalized
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sometimes for quite a long time.
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So we need to know that
marriage to a person with
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a mental illness, is
not the cure, it is often
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the thing that causes the
disease to become extremely
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difficult to handle.
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With Schizophrenia
approximately three out of
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every hundred in our
western population will have
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Schizophrenia.
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So is there a way that we
can handle this so that we
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can treat it with success?
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And the answer is Yes,
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we can treat some of these cases
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so that they are
quite successful.
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We have a young man
who came to us from a large
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Catholic family in Florida.
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He was a fine young man,
very strong and very handsome
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young man, but he was
definitely mentally ill.
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He was about 24 years
old, at the time that he came
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to Uchee Pines for treatment,
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and at that time he
had been in the hospital
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since he was 18.
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This young man was
given a treatment of various
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herbal things, a
completely plant based diet,
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and hard labor.
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We also did some very
good hydrotherapy for him
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and within about six or
eight months he was very well.
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Not completely well,
but he was so well that
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he began to
communicate with his family.
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They came to
visit him several times.
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We felt that it was not
safe yet for him to go home
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that his being better
was still so fresh and new
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that perhaps he
should stay in the program
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at our
Institute for a full year.
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So at the end of the
year he did hard farm labor,
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many hours every day.
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We think that was
very good for him.
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The totally plant
based diet was good for him,
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and the
hydrotherapy, we gave him
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A long slow hydrotherapy
such as a neutral bath.
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We sometimes gave
him a wet sheet pack
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which is quite a comfortable
treatment, he enjoyed that
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and made improvements
with this hydrotherapy.
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And at the end of
the year he was sent home
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not maybe as
completely mentally balanced
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as someone else,
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but certainly well
enough to function is society.
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He got a small job, he married,
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and I understand he now
is raising another family
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in his Catholic
tradition in Florida.
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There was a time
when mental institutions
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in the United States
were using hydrotherapy
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quite
extensively, for Schizophrenia,
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and for depression, and
one psychiatrist who was with
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The Veterans
Administration Hospital
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was accused of
"empting the hospital. "
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He got all of his patients
well, and sent them home
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and he enjoyed that kind of
reputation, because they often
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sent him some rather
serious cases of Schizophrenia.
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Now the kind of herbs that
we use are just general herbs
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for the brain or for the mind
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one of those is St. John's Wort.
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Now you may have heard
that St. John's Wort is no good
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for depression or for
any kind of mental illness.
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A man by the name of
Shelton did a large study
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and published that,
I think it was in 2003
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or 2004, and he concluded
that in the end of his study
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that there was no
benefit in St. John's Wort.
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No more benefit
than in a placebo.
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When I saw that study published
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in a prominent medical journal
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I thought there
must be something wrong
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with this research, because
we have had some very good
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results at Uchee Pines
Institute, with St. John's Wort.
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So I investigated a
little bit, I found out that
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Pfizer a prominent drug
company in United States
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funded the research.
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Immediately some
red flags went up
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and I thought Pfizer is
the manufacturer of Zoloft
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A very commonly used
anti-depressant agent
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available in
drug stores all over.
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So I thought that
was one big red flag
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I thought here is something
to be suspicious about.
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Then the second thing
that I was suspicious about
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that there were five
very large studies done on
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St. John's Wort,
showing to be effective
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using very carefully
structured research projects
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and those researchers
discovered that St. John's Wort
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was really quite effective.
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So I wondered if these
two things might be sufficient
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to make it so that I should just
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just discount this study
altogether, but as I read
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some reviews done by some
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researchers in the
field of agriculture
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and botanicals, at The
Department of Agriculture
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in Washington.
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I found out that there
were some other things as well
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One was that they
virtually told the patients
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that they were giving them
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something that was ineffectual
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because they instituted
very strong anti-suicidal
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programs to let
the patients know that,
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if they felt
suicidal just let them know
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and they would
help them with something
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that would affect
their mental brightness.
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Well that would
essentially tell me
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if I were on that program
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that the test agent is
something that is not effective
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either it's the
placebo, or its an agent
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they don't expect
to be very effective.
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Then the fact that the
researchers did not compare
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St. John's Wort with Zoloft
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was also very interesting
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why did they not set up
the double blinded study
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with three agents, the placebo,
the herb, and their own Zoloft.
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That was the thing
that had been recommended
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by all of the researchers
who had done research
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on St. John's
Wort prior to that.
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So as with many
studies that have been done
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using herbal
remedies, or herbal substances
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I have flawed the study
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because it was not
properly structured,
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and this one I
think we can also flaw,
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you may feel quite
free to use St. John's Wort
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in any kind of
emotional or mental disorder
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and expect that you
will get some benefit.
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Now in addition
to St. John's Wort
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I usually use something
like Ginkgo which increases
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the blood flow to the
central nervous system
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and can be very
effective that way.
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Furthermore if the
person has some dominant symptom
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like, they are excited
or anxious, or irritated,
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or nervous, I will usually
give something like catnip,
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or skullcap, or valerian
root that tends to be calming
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to these individuals.
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So armed with this
kind of information
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I hope that you can feel
that you can be of benefit
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to those who have some kind
mental or emotional difficulty
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who are among
your friends or family.
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Now we have a
number of other problems
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in our modern health scene.
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One of those is bio-accumulation
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and bio-magnification.
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Those are very big
words, and Dr. Miller
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what do those big words mean?
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There very simple,
as a matter of fact,
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if you live where we
live down there on the
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Chattahoochee River you will
find that this is a major topic
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they don't these words
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but the problem we
have living near the
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Chattahoochee River,
although we don't have it
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those in
Columbus do, is up river
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it goes to the city of Atlanta.
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Now Atlanta likes to
dump some of their sewage
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into the Chattahoochee River.
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See the old mindset
used to be that dilution
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was the solution to pollution.
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You put a certain
amount of a pollutant,
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in a large amount of
water or air, or land
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and it will
dilute out no problem.
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Trouble is we're finding
toxic levels of raw sewage
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in the water now a
hundred miles south in the
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city of Columbus Georgia.
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That's what we might
call bio-accumulation,
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basically at the
first atrophic level
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we start having
pollutants accumulating
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wherever that might be.
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Now as we have that problem
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we have the people down
there on the banks of the river
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fishing for fish, who are
living in this polluted water.
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Well sometimes
you've got in that water
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or always in that water,
you've got little plankton
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that are living off of
the water and the sunshine
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and they will be absorbing
into the little organisms
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a certain amount of the toxins
coming down from upstream.
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You will have
some herbivorous fish
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which will eat this plankton
and it will further accumulate
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or magnify, this is
where we have bio-magnification
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in its little body,
then we have a big old bass
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a carnivorous fish eating
that little herbivorous fish
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it will magnify more it
its body and then the fisherman
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catches this bass,
very proud of himself
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goes home, filets
it, fries it, and eats it
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not knowing that he is getting
a huge amount of the toxins
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that came from upstream.
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Now there are various things
that we have in our society
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that are giving us great
problems with this problem
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of bio-magnification,
and bio-accumulation
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we see this in our food chain.
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I read a book some
years ago by a veterinarian
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and basically the way
they were feeding the chickens
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is, the conveyor belt
goes in front of chickens
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with their food, and another
conveyor belt behind them
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picks up their waste,
and it gets to the one end
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and they mix the
waste with more food,
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and more growth hormones,
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and goes right
back through again
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and so, the animal
eats over and over again,
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this more and more concentrated
levels of these nutrients
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or these growth hormones,
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which are going to
cause a huge problem
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in their particular
bodies and so we need
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to stay away from this.
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A really good example in
the 1950's of this problem
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before we really
recognized it as a problem.
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You see back during World War II
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in the South
Pacific during World War II
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there was a big
problem with Malaria.
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Well the scientists
got together and came up
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with a very good insecticide
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to kill the mosquitoes.
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That insecticide is called DDT.
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In the 1950's they were
having a Malaria breakout
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in the country of Borneo
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and so the world
health organization
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had airplanes fly over and
spray the whole are with DDT.
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It worked like a charm,
see the people were dying
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of Malaria, now they
killed the mosquitoes
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and Malaria fell,
that's the good news.
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The bad news is,
besides the Malaria falling
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the roofs started falling.
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You see the DDT, was
killing the little parasitic
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wasps that flew around there
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and the
parasitic wasps would kill
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the thatch eating caterpillars.
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Well now the thatch eating
caterpillars were thriving
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and so they were
eating the thatch
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and causing the
roofs to fall in.
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But the other insects
that were being killed
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were falling to the ground
and being eaten by the geckos,
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and start to magnify in
the bodies, and the cats
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would eat the geckos,
because they are easy prey now
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accumulate in their
bodies to the point where
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they would die
of the DDT overdose
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and then the
rats started to thrive
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and they started to
be threatened with Typhus
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and the Plague.
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So what the World
Health Organization had to do
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is fly over airplane,
and parachute cats down
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to this area of Borneo, because
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Bio-accumulation
and Bio-magnification
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so upset the eco-system,
that they had to somehow
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try to get back in
there and restore it
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into the proper levels.
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and so we see this a
lot in our societies today
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as we see our oceans.
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I remember a number of years ago
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when Jacques
Cousteau died, within a month
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they had written his memoirs,
or published his memoirs
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and he said within 20
years the oceans will be dead
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Now there not dead
yet, but they are dying
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you go to the
deepest rifts of the oceans,
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and pull up any living
organisms you will find
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significant
amounts of different toxins
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and one of them
which will be DDT.
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As we consume these
products, as we consume products
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especially animal products,
which seem to store the toxins
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or accumulate these
toxins and magnify the toxins
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in their bodies.
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If we eat those animals,
we ourselves are getting
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a massive dose.
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It is better to buy the fruits,
vegetables, whole grains,
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nuts, and seeds, wash
them off and eat them.
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You may be getting a
small amount of pollutants but
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no where near the amount
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that you are going to get
from eating animal products
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that accumulate
them and magnify them
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and so I think Dr. Thrash
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that we should just
stay away from these things.
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Dr. Miller I
understood that in this country
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the DDT had been outlawed.
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It has been outlawed in this,
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of course it has
been replaced with DDD
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and what we did when we
were no longer producing
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DDT for ourselves, we
start selling it overseas
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and we get much of our
exotic produce from overseas
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and so we are going to
get the residues from there
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plus a fish that grows over here
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swims a thousand miles over here
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or they catch
the fish over there,
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we're going to get
it one way or the other.
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Yes, I can see how that
would certainly be true.
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Another problem that we
have in modern times is Aids.
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Aids are
auto-immune deficiency disorder
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is a very serious problem
in some countries of Africa.
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There are very few
adults alive in cities.
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The major people who
are there are just children
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under 20 years of age.
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So it can be a
most serious problem.
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Is there something
that we can do that can help
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with the disease after
it has already developed
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or when it develops in
children who have a lifestyle
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that is not
conducive to the disease
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but never the less, they
get it from their parents.
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Yes there a number
of thing that we can do
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we had a man who
had full blown Aids,
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was in the hospital
with pneumocystis pneumonia
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in France, we never
did see the patient,
00:19:33.33\00:19:36.58
but he called, his
family called urgently
00:19:36.61\00:19:39.96
requesting that we
take him at our institute.
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They realized that
there were no drugs
00:19:43.35\00:19:46.97
and standard medicine at
that time that were effective,
00:19:47.01\00:19:49.64
and they wanted to
try some simple remedies
00:19:49.67\00:19:53.19
and felt that we were the best
place possible for him to get,
00:19:53.23\00:19:58.33
that they knew of for
him to get this treatment.
00:19:58.36\00:20:01.39
The family were quite well
to do and they were willing to
00:20:01.43\00:20:05.00
fly him in an ambulance plane
00:20:05.03\00:20:06.94
all the way to Uchee Pines
00:20:06.97\00:20:09.19
so that we could treat him.
00:20:09.23\00:20:11.82
We explained to them that
00:20:11.86\00:20:14.42
we don't take Aids patients
00:20:14.46\00:20:17.11
because of the way that
we are set up with students
00:20:17.15\00:20:20.10
and the like, and the
fact that our situation
00:20:20.13\00:20:23.54
is not such that we can
have an infectious patient
00:20:23.58\00:20:27.47
in with our other patients.
00:20:27.50\00:20:29.36
So we said we
can't take him here,
00:20:29.40\00:20:33.80
but we will do what
we can to try to help you
00:20:33.84\00:20:36.49
to treat him there.
00:20:36.52\00:20:37.73
So we them all the
things that we would do
00:20:37.77\00:20:41.60
the herbs that we would use,
00:20:41.63\00:20:43.36
the various hydrotherapy
measures that we would use
00:20:43.40\00:20:47.77
the kind of diet for the man,
00:20:47.80\00:20:49.49
and the outcome of it
was that in a few months
00:20:49.53\00:20:54.67
his lymph nodes had gone down,
00:20:54.70\00:20:58.00
and he was feeling much better
00:20:58.04\00:21:01.27
eventually after almost a
year he went back to work again
00:21:01.31\00:21:06.58
and he lived on
for several more years.
00:21:06.61\00:21:08.88
Then the time came when he
decided that he did not like
00:21:08.92\00:21:14.26
staying on the
routine that we had given him
00:21:14.29\00:21:16.35
he did not like
being in the lifestyle
00:21:16.38\00:21:19.04
that we felt would be the
most conducive to good health
00:21:19.07\00:21:22.01
and so he went back
into his old lifestyle
00:21:22.04\00:21:24.82
with drinking and carousing
00:21:24.85\00:21:27.89
and the things that he had
been prone to do beforehand
00:21:27.93\00:21:31.21
and within about
six months he was dead.
00:21:31.24\00:21:34.13
Now was he going to die anyway?
00:21:34.16\00:21:36.53
We don't know
that, but, we do know
00:21:36.56\00:21:38.81
that he did
have a good response.
00:21:38.84\00:21:41.07
We had another man in California
00:21:41.11\00:21:43.27
almost the same
scene, including the fact
00:21:43.31\00:21:46.49
that he went back
into the old lifestyle
00:21:46.53\00:21:49.68
and was dead in
just a few months
00:21:49.71\00:21:51.74
after he returned to it.
00:21:51.77\00:21:53.10
So these two
patients that we have had
00:21:53.14\00:21:55.55
that we have not
taken to Uchee Pines
00:21:55.59\00:21:57.93
but have treated
them through the families
00:21:57.97\00:22:00.85
this has nerved us to
feel that the simple remedies
00:22:00.89\00:22:05.35
can be quite effective
in at least forestalling
00:22:05.38\00:22:09.20
the immediate outcome of
a full blown case of Aids.
00:22:09.24\00:22:13.65
and making that disease regress
into a HIV positive state
00:22:13.69\00:22:18.83
but without the full blown Aids.
00:22:18.86\00:22:21.66
Now some
refinements of what we did
00:22:21.70\00:22:24.49
we gave fever treatments
00:22:24.52\00:22:26.78
in which we brought
the fever of the person
00:22:26.82\00:22:30.48
up to 104, at first
they were not able to take
00:22:30.51\00:22:34.27
that high level of
raising the body temperature
00:22:34.31\00:22:38.44
but as time progressed,
they were able to take
00:22:38.47\00:22:42.28
the heat treatments, so
that the mouth temperature
00:22:42.32\00:22:46.10
went up to 104.
00:22:46.13\00:22:48.39
This is done
every day for five days
00:22:48.43\00:22:51.38
then a rest of two days
00:22:51.41\00:22:52.68
they repeat this
three times for three weeks
00:22:52.72\00:22:56.43
and then take a rest of a week
00:22:56.46\00:22:58.74
then the series is repeated,
00:22:58.78\00:23:01.03
another rest of a week
00:23:01.06\00:23:03.09
the series is
repeated a third time
00:23:03.13\00:23:05.72
and this time a
rest for a month.
00:23:05.75\00:23:08.23
This kind of
treatment with a fever
00:23:08.26\00:23:10.73
is carried on for a full year.
00:23:10.76\00:23:14.86
A plant based diet
is the most effective
00:23:14.90\00:23:19.08
to boost the effectiveness
of the immune system
00:23:19.12\00:23:21.63
and a number of
herbs are also very good.
00:23:21.66\00:23:25.06
Garlic is very good,
it is also anti-microbial
00:23:25.10\00:23:29.11
and for any benefit that
it might be for the retrovirus
00:23:29.15\00:23:33.15
we use that as well.
00:23:33.18\00:23:35.67
We use
ashwaganda, the golden seal,
00:23:35.70\00:23:41.04
the Echinacea, all of
these are know to boost
00:23:41.08\00:23:44.17
the effectiveness
of the immune system
00:23:44.28\00:23:46.81
and to help the
person get in full control
00:23:46.85\00:23:49.35
of their disease
if that is possible.
00:23:49.38\00:23:52.49
So we know that there is
00:23:52.52\00:23:55.08
benefit for the person with Aids
00:23:55.11\00:23:57.60
whether we can
ever see a person cured
00:23:57.64\00:24:00.71
is a matter for research.
00:24:00.74\00:24:02.98
Now another problem
that we're having in our age
00:24:03.02\00:24:08.78
is that of zoonoses,
00:24:08.81\00:24:11.13
we have several that
are known today to be
00:24:11.17\00:24:15.29
associated with
the animal kingdom
00:24:15.32\00:24:18.10
and Dr. Miller is going to
talk with you about that now.
00:24:18.14\00:24:21.58
Of course it is interesting
that is zoonosis are peculiar
00:24:21.62\00:24:25.03
to the animal kingdom
basically a zoonotic disease
00:24:25.06\00:24:28.22
is a disease that is
transmissible from an animal
00:24:28.25\00:24:30.47
to the human.
00:24:30.51\00:24:31.48
Let me just read off a
little list as Dr. Thrash
00:24:31.63\00:24:34.12
has been talking, I
just decided to write down
00:24:34.15\00:24:36.57
a small list, and think about
what all these have in common:
00:24:36.61\00:24:39.50
SARS, Aids, West Nile
Virus Ebola, E-coli, monkey pox,
00:24:39.53\00:24:44.67
flu, worms,
lymes, Creutzfeldt-Jakobs
00:24:44.70\00:24:48.59
and we could go on and on.
00:24:48.62\00:24:50.26
As a matter of fact
I was on the internet
00:24:50.30\00:24:51.55
the other day, and I was
looking up diseases acquired
00:24:51.59\00:24:54.69
from animals.
00:24:54.72\00:24:55.69
I've got a long
list from horses,
00:24:55.70\00:24:57.38
a long list from cows,
00:24:57.41\00:24:58.79
a long list
from sheep and goats,
00:24:58.83\00:25:00.57
a long list of
course from rodents,
00:25:00.60\00:25:02.27
a long list from
rabbits, hares, and pikas,
00:25:02.31\00:25:05.07
cats, dogs, mans best friend.
00:25:05.10\00:25:10.60
We see a large
amount of new diseases
00:25:10.64\00:25:13.80
coming from this basically
melting pot of disease sump
00:25:13.84\00:25:18.36
that we have.
00:25:18.39\00:25:19.40
Matter of fact I read an article
00:25:19.43\00:25:20.40
not long ago saying
that, probably at least
00:25:20.42\00:25:23.75
75% of all new diseases are
coming from the animal kingdom.
00:25:23.79\00:25:28.33
Where do are flu come from?
00:25:28.36\00:25:30.15
Our flu come from
that little melting pot
00:25:30.19\00:25:32.40
of diseases over there in the
00:25:33.30\00:25:34.65
China and Hong Kong
area where you have got
00:25:34.69\00:25:36.73
ducks, chickens and
pigs, and humans and drugs
00:25:36.76\00:25:40.53
drugs all living
in close proximity.
00:25:40.56\00:25:42.51
They are growing
these super strains of bugs,
00:25:42.55\00:25:45.11
and that's why we get all
these different strains of bugs
00:25:45.15\00:25:47.92
the Hong Kong
flu, the swine flu,
00:25:47.95\00:25:50.12
the Avian flu, all
these different things
00:25:50.15\00:25:52.52
are coming into our systems.
00:25:52.55\00:25:54.47
I was in Siberia a
couple of years ago
00:25:54.51\00:25:57.81
just after this big
SARS thing came out,
00:25:57.84\00:26:00.60
and one of the
doctors in the seminar
00:26:00.63\00:26:03.36
that we were teaching there.
00:26:03.39\00:26:04.60
She said you
know it's interesting
00:26:04.64\00:26:06.76
I just came from
a symposium before I
00:26:06.79\00:26:09.02
came here to
this seminar, way over
00:26:09.06\00:26:11.22
there in Eastern Russia and
they were talking about SARS.
00:26:11.26\00:26:16.00
There was something interesting
00:26:16.03\00:26:17.64
they found out about Sars.
00:26:17.67\00:26:19.24
Vegetarians either
do not get it, or get
00:26:19.28\00:26:22.46
very mild cases of the SARS.
00:26:22.49\00:26:25.61
I thought well
that's a pretty nice reason
00:26:25.65\00:26:28.15
to become a
vegetarian, because SARS was
00:26:28.19\00:26:30.66
a really scary thing over there.
00:26:30.69\00:26:32.24
We find that
lifestyle and the Aids,
00:26:32.28\00:26:34.91
and many of these diseases, if
just take care of ourselves...
00:26:34.95\00:26:37.63
We are living in a
time when I believe
00:26:37.66\00:26:40.42
the whole animal
kingdom is diseased,
00:26:40.45\00:26:43.20
and we need to be
as much as possible
00:26:43.23\00:26:45.91
putting some type of a barrier
between animals and ourselves.
00:26:45.95\00:26:48.72
Especially don't eat the things,
00:26:48.75\00:26:51.04
and if you have an
animal in your environment,
00:26:51.14\00:26:53.38
make sure that
animal is healthy.
00:26:53.41\00:26:55.03
You are finding
today that animals have
00:26:55.07\00:26:57.93
the same diseases as humans:
00:26:58.03\00:26:59.68
Diabetes, cancer,
coronary heart disease
00:27:00.00\00:27:03.50
they all have the
same thing because, they're
00:27:03.57\00:27:06.64
eating like we are
eating, and we are starting
00:27:07.04\00:27:10.07
to get diseases
passing between the species.
00:27:10.11\00:27:13.11
This is a
dangerous thing Dr. Thrash
00:27:13.14\00:27:15.03
So I think that
zoonotic diseases need
00:27:15.06\00:27:16.99
to be studied a
little bit more carefully.
00:27:17.03\00:27:19.30
Yes, and
interestingly also some of the
00:27:19.33\00:27:21.57
same things that
we found in humans,
00:27:21.61\00:27:24.16
will help them,
will also help animals.
00:27:24.19\00:27:26.73
So veterinarians, I
have a friend who is
00:27:26.77\00:27:29.28
a veterinarian
who comes to me often,
00:27:29.32\00:27:31.96
and has some
little pet that she is
00:27:31.99\00:27:34.98
really working at
diligently, and asks
00:27:35.01\00:27:37.93
me how I would treat a human
if they had that same disorder.
00:27:37.97\00:27:44.83
So while we can't claim
to cure a lot of diseases
00:27:44.86\00:27:50.65
that are Modern
Society Diseases,
00:27:50.68\00:27:53.05
we can try to understand them
00:27:53.09\00:27:55.31
and protect ourselves from them.
00:27:55.34\00:27:57.53