Hello! I'm Agatha
Thrash, a staff physician at
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Uchee Pines Institute,
a place where we see a lot
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of people with diabetes.
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In fact I think probably
my favorite disease to treat
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is diabetes.
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It's very common, it also
has a lot of ramifications and
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interlacing with
other types of diseases,
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and another thing is that
it responds so well to the
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very simplest of treatment.
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We hope you will join us
for this discussion on diabetes
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and related issues.
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Welcome to:
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with Dr. Agatha Thrash
of Uchee Pines Institute,
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and now here is
your host, Dr. Thrash.
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Having had diabetes in
my family it's always been
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a disease that interests me.
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But as I have
practiced medicine,
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the longer I have been in
medicine, the more I realize
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that this disease
is very wide spread.
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A lot of times people
don't know that they have it,
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in fact we have people who
have had a large number of years
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of experience with
diabetes before it was ever made
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by the laboratory.
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So we have things that we
can say that the laboratory says
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they have diabetes so we
will look back in the patient's
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chart and see yes, you've had
diabetes for many many years.
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The major way of making
the diagnosis of diabetes is by
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the laboratory tests.
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We can get a good idea
about the person's metabolism of
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sugar and the whole metabolic
process that has to do with
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dealing with sugar, salt,
fats, proteins, and all of these
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are involved in
the diabetic syndrome.
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We can get a lot of idea about
this by the patient's history,
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but to actually make the
diagnosis, we need to have
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laboratory testing, so
I would like to show you
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what we see with the laboratory.
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Here you see a graph that
shows the time on the bottom,
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and the level of the
blood sugar along the left side.
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Notice that the blood sugar
starts at 70 in this person,
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and at one hour it is
up to about 130, then at
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one and a half hours it
has come down a little bit,
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then at two hours it's just
slightly below where it started,
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maybe 69, just a
little below where it started,
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now that's normal,
or essentially normal.
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There are a little variations
on this, but essentially
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that's normal.
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Now lets see what a
mild diabetic would be,
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it starts at about 90-
95, maybe 100, then goes up
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rather sharply and higher
than it does in the normal
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and does not come back
down to normal in two hours.
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Now lets take a person
who is a severe diabetic,
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it starts at a higher
level, it can start at 110, 140,
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it can even be at 200,
and then as you can see it is
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almost going off the
graph over there at 250,
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it can go even
higher than that, 3, 4, 500.
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At two hours it isn't anywhere
near back down to normal,
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it isn't even turning downward.
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Sometimes people will
keep this kind of curve
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much of their lives, the
higher the blood sugar is,
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the greater the likelihood
the person is to be producing
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too much insulin, and
we will talk with you about
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what too much
insulin does for you.
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Before that I would like to
show you one of those things
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that we use to treat
diabetics with and that is diet.
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In the diet we promote
a purely vegetarian diet,
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and one might think, would
I be able to do a vegetarian
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diet and I have heard that it
takes spending hours every day
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in the kitchen to
produce a vegetarian diet
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and I will tell you to
both of those, yes you can do
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a vegetarian diet, and no it
does not take many many hours
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I have asked Lidia Seda who
is an excellent cook to show...
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Oh, this looks so good
and it smells so good Lidia.
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This is Lidia Seda who is one
of my colleagues at Uchee Pines,
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umm! What is the name of
this roast, it smells so good?
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- Cashew Nut
Loaf - Cashew Nut Loaf
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What are the major ingredients?
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Rice, cashews, it has
different types of seasonings.
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- I think I can
smell a little sage is it?
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- Sage, it has Thyme, a little
Oregano, and it's real simple,
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you just get all the
ingredients together,
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place it in a loaf pan, I
decided to use a round loaf pan
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instead of a square one, and
place it in the oven and bake it
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for about 30- 40 minutes.
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- My, that's pretty and it
has a little bit of a meat like
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texture, not that I require
that not having eaten meat
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in 35 years, nearly 40,
so I don't think it would
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appeal to me, but for
people who appreciate meat
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it would certainly
look somewhat like it.
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- I tried this about a
week ago and it's quite tasty.
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- Was it? Do you
have a recipe for that?
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Yes, yes we do, and you
can actually find his recipe
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in the book, Eat For Strength,
this is one of the places
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you can find this
recipe, Cashew Nut Loaf.
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- I've seen that book before.
- I'm sure you have Dr. Agatha!
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- Well, I certainly hope I
get to eat with you when you eat
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this roast. - I'm sure you will!
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The other thing I wanted
to share since we are talking
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about diabetes, and how
individual who are diabetic
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can be helped with this
situation, one important thing
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is Stevia.
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Stevia has been used in
the Orient for many many years
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for diabetics in
place of using a sweetener,
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it has no calories and they are
actually finding that insulin
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can actually help the pancreas
increase it's insulin capacity
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because it works on the
Beta Cells of the pancreas so
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it's no calorie, and also it
can help stimulate the pancreas
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to produce more insulin.
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There are many many different
types of cookbooks out on the
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market that have recipes
with Stevia that you can find
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in any heath food
store that they can use.
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- Well Stevia is from a plant
and it's a natural product,
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it has a delightful
flavor if you don't use to much,
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which is the same way with
honey, if you don't use to much,
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and it tastes good in a recipe
so we are accustomed to not
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using too much, so I
like the fact that Stevia
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can be used in sweet dishes.
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- Now what about the cashews,
I know they are very high
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in fat, does that
bother a diabetic?
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- Overall, no it will not bother
a diabetic, the one nice thing
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about vegetarian meals is
that they are high in fiber
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and diabetic will do well
if they have meals that are
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high in fiber.
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Fiber acts like a time release
capsule allowing that the
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carbohydrates that will
be converted into sugars
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so that their blood can
convert that into energy,
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it releases it slowly,
at a steady pace and not at
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a rapid pace.
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- Ok, so the body because of the
fiber in the food, like in this
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nut roast, the fiber in the food
makes it so that the body is
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more slow in digesting
the food, meaning that the
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sugar level is
going to rise more slowly.
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- Exactly!
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- And that does not put
the burden on the pancreas
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that it would if it rose very
high as we saw on the graph.
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- Exactly, and that's one nice
thing about a vegetarian diet
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besides the fact that
it's simple just with a little
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preparation and it's very tasty.
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- How long did you
spend making this dish?
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- This dish actually
within 40 minutes I had all the
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ingredients, which in
40 minutes, actually about
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30 minutes I had everything
done, it was just a matter of
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putting everything
together, put it in the oven,
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and then I went about my
business doing what I needed
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to do and then I
had my cashew nut loaf.
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- I want to ask you what
you would think about making
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three of these at one time,
it might increase your cook time
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maybe 5- 10 minutes, to make
three of these at one time and
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put two of them in the freezer.
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- It freezes well, - uh huh,
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- it really does! -
Ok, so you can eat it
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two weeks later. - Exactly!
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- So if you want to plan
ahead of time for your guests
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or get this ahead of time for
Sabbath, you just take it out
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of the freezer and let it thaw
when you go to church.. Exactly!
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and when you come back it
is ready to pop into the oven
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and heat for 30- 40 minutes
and it is ready for you to eat,
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that sounds good.
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I think every diabetic
should understand about the
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vegetarian diet so that when
you are able to produce this
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for yourself, you can
see that there are advantages
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to your blood sugar after
the body becomes accustomed
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to it you will do much better.
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Now I have
asked Dr. Wynn Hoarsly
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who is one of our
staff physicians at
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Uchee Pines who deals
with diabetes a lot to join me
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in this...
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Thank you for coming Dr.
Wynn Horsley and together
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we are going to tell you
a few things about diabetes.
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Dr. Horsley has had quite a
lot of experience with diabetes
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of course since we treat so
many diabetics at Uchee Pines
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and I would like to
know something about how you
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approach this whole
problem, how you think about it,
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how you explain it to the
patient and that kind of thing.
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First of all I like approaching
it just because of what you
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said is exactly my experience,
it's a rather major disease,
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but you can get such
excellent results in many cases.
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- It is such a major disease
that I describe it to patients
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as a process of acceleration
of the aging process.
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- Yes, and of the worst
killers of the aging process,
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like arteriosclerosis,
and heart attacks,
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it accelerates
that whole badness.
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- Joint problems,
kidney problems, eye problems,
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and neuropathy, and all sorts
of things are worse and start
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getting complications.
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- When I get into it with
the patients we make a list
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of the complications
that diabetes gives,
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who cares about a high
blood sugar if it doesn't cause
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any trouble. - That's right.
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- One thing that I think
is worth while early along is
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to see just what is it that's
going on at a cellular level,
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so I would like to
take a moment to look at the
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board here. - Very
good, I see you've got
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a diagram there. -
Yeah, this is my attempt
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of sketching a
cell. - Looks good!
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- Here is the nucleus with
all that library of information
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and here is a blood vessel
going by and you could take this
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as even one of the
tiny arterioles that finally
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narrows down to a capillary
where the red blood cells
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are going through
single file, it's so narrow.
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Now of course this blood
is carrying all the nutrients
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to the cells, and the one that
concerns us right now is the
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glucose. - Uhhuh
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- This glucose will come from
the blood then and be out here
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outside the
cell, ready to go in.
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Most people I believe
that are not in health work
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professionally, may not
have done the studies about how
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unique cells are.
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They really are like a fortified
castle, they don't let just
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anything, even in the tissue
right around here in the body
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just automatically go in.
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The environment is extremely
different outside here,
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here's the chemical symbols
for salt, we all know that
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blood tastes salty,
inside the cell there is hardly
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any of the sodium it makes
for salt, instead you've got
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potassium, I'm going to
give you the chemical symbol K.
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Now the cell membrane,
the outside of the cell is
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constantly keeping the sodium
out and pumping in the potassium
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well the glucose that
is coming here is the fuel
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of the body, the cells need
it, but even glucose does not
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have automatic
entry into the cell.
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The only way that
glucose can get in is through a
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special mechanism, and I like
to compare it to a locked door
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that even glucose can
not go through this door
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with this lock on it
here, unless you have a key to
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unlock it, and
the key is insulin.
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Insulin is the substance in
our body that unlocks the cells
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so that the glucose can pass
inside, the insulin is produced
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in the pancreas, one
or our abdominal organs.
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If you didn't have enough
insulin then you can't get
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that glucose getting
into the cell like it should
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so you get the glucose
piling up outside, and the cell
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is starving.
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I've heard diabetes described
as starvation in the midst
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of plenty and I think
that is a very apt description.
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This very situation of
not having enough insulin
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is one kind of diabetes
that now days they generally
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refer to diabetes... by
the was the full name is
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diabetes mellitus, the sweet
kind of diabetes where your
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blood sugar is to high.
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Diabetes mellitus we will
abbreviate this way, Type I
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now this is not the
majority of diabetics,
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they used to call this juvenile
diabetes and I would say
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10% maybe even less of diabetics
are completely what we would
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call type I, where
there is insufficient insulin.
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By the way, when we
do lab testing routinely,
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I think people certainly
anyone who is diabetic knows
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how you keep checking for
glucose, but now with advances
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in lab technology they can
even check for insulin level.
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It is a little more complicated
and a lot more expensive.
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- Oh yes! Absolutely!
But a real interest here
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because there really
is what's the most common
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kind of diabetes, the
situation is not this one.
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You do have the problem
of glucose building up here
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a person has high blood
sugar so yes they are diabetic
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and the cells aren't
getting enough glucose in,
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but when they check
on the amount of insulin
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you've got plenty,
in fact it's often more
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than the normal
amount of insulin.
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This would be the most
common kind of diabetes that's
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diabetes Mellitus II, what
in the past has been called
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adult onset diabetes.
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- Why isn't it
still called adult type?
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- Well, in fact I just
heard an endocrinologist tell me
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that a friend of his is
treating a number of adolescents
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who have type II
diabetes, which seems...
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- That would be
11, 12, 13 year old.
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- People at that age, it's sad
to see that happening but it is.
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Another reason for not
using the terms juvenile and
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adult onset is that
as a person goes on with
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type II diabetes, producing
extra insulin, it can exhaust
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the pancreas and
start turning into Type I.
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Now those type I diabetics
of course are older people
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who have already gone through
a whole length of time, "years"
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of being type II, so
these are not juveniles,
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so again the term
juvenile doesn't really fit.
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It's worth mentioning here
about this problem of insulin
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resistance which
characterizes Type II diabetes.
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They have lots of
insulin, lots of the key,
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but it doesn't seem
to be opening the lock,
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so we could think of
this as the lock being rusty,
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and we are not able
to make the key function.
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- The cell won't
let the insulin work.
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- That's right, so in medical
lingo the rusty lock is just
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called insulin resistance.
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Now the work that we do is
largely with Type II diabetes,
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and I think we need to
make clear in our talk here,
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that we are talking to
people who have Type II.
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If it is Type I, you
really need further evaluation
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and you will need
something more than just the
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diet recommendations.
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- You need good
professional help.
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- Absolutely!
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- Well I am always very
interested in Type II diabetes,
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because that is the
one that is so responsive
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to the things that
we can do in the home.
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Exercising, diet, regularity,
drinking plenty of water,
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all of those things.
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- The most dramatic
results of all that we see at
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Uchee Pines are with even
one added step, and I feel
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a little unsure about whether
to recommend this to people
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at home, it's fasting. - Yes!
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I like fasting for people
and anybody can fast for a day.
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- Oh yes, no problem for a
day, and I really don't feel bad
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about telling people
to try even another day,
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if they want to try
two, but I wouldn't recommend
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more than three
days... - I should say anybody
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can fast because a Type
I diabetic should not fast.
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- That's right. -
And people with gout
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should not fast.
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- There's another important
point that we need to make here,
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and that is, even if
he is a Type II diabetic
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and he is taking medications,
if he is going to fast,
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he must stop those medications.
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- Tell me what do you think
about the non-insulin types
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of drugs that will
control the blood sugar?
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How do you feel about those?
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- Well in my residency,
we used those and we had
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various problems...
Those drugs, none of them
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is a chemical that is a
part of our body mechanism,
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my approach is do all
you can without doing that.
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If the diabetes is so bad that
it really needs drug therapy
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then the drug to go to
is insulin, which is the one
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that God made, and the one
that works so dramatically.
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- Yes and even though the
insulin that we use may be from
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an animal, or from
another human, or something that
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has been manufactured, it
is still the very best one
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that we can use for
a person with diabetes.
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I have a report here on
caffeine and how it is linked to
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poor pancreatic function.
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With caffeine in
anybody who is just having the
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family background of an
individual who is going to get
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diabetes, they already
have an appointment from their
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family genetics.
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Then if they take coffee, tea,
or colas, or a lot of chocolate,
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that increases the
burden on the pancreas because
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the pancreas does not
work well in the presence
00:20:54.94\00:20:57.54
of caffeine and there are
abnormalities in the blood sugar
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that come about merely
because of the caffeine.
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This then can make it so that
the individual is more likely
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to develop diabetes, so
we could say that taking
00:21:09.50\00:21:14.53
these caffeinated
drinks increases the likelihood
00:21:14.56\00:21:18.66
of your getting diabetes.
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What other things do you do
when you instruct patients in
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diabetes, and
how do you treat it?
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- I was wanting to say about
that caffeine, about coffee,
00:21:27.12\00:21:29.84
there is a direct effect on
the liver, where all this stored
00:21:29.87\00:21:33.78
glucose, in the form that
is called glycogen is released
00:21:33.81\00:21:39.34
gradually between meals, well
caffeine has a direct effect
00:21:39.37\00:21:44.87
to increase that process,
especially when a person
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takes it with his meals.
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For instance a Continental
Breakfast, where people take
00:21:50.42\00:21:53.37
something quite sweet which
will shoot the blood sugar up,
00:21:53.40\00:21:55.91
and then they add in coffee,
you are suddenly stimulating
00:21:55.95\00:21:59.70
that liver to put out a whole
lot more sugar and you will
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get an awfully high sugar level.
00:22:02.12\00:22:05.00
- Yes! Now diabetics
have a lot of other problems,
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they not only have high blood
sugar, but sometimes they have
00:22:08.93\00:22:12.36
high blood cholesterol as
well. Why is that Dr. Wynn?
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- You know the whole process
of arteriolosclerosis is really
00:22:16.97\00:22:22.42
accelerated in diabetes
and I think with the overloaded
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nutritional factors of blood
which are sugar, you then can,
00:22:30.33\00:22:37.20
when there is
excess there it will make
00:22:37.23\00:22:40.68
excess fats, and
cholesterol is one of those.
00:22:40.71\00:22:42.55
In fact the other fat,
the more common type of fat
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that nutritionally is called
triglycerides is often very high
00:22:45.38\00:22:48.78
in diabetics. -
Umhum, yes triglycerides
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are high, in fact triglycerides
and sugar seem to go together
00:22:51.80\00:22:54.85
almost like twins, and
gout is another part of that
00:22:54.88\00:23:00.34
whole metabolic mechanism.
00:23:00.37\00:23:04.14
Gout is a problem with
the metabolism of the purines,
00:23:04.17\00:23:10.19
individuals who have gout will
have a build up of uric acid,
00:23:10.22\00:23:14.28
which is the end product of
purine metabolism and they then
00:23:14.31\00:23:18.66
began to get deposits of
crystalline material in their
00:23:18.69\00:23:22.08
joints and this is also
related to it, it's a double
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first cousin to diabetes.
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I know also that people who
have diabetes have an elevated
00:23:29.65\00:23:34.89
homocysteine level,
have you been involved in
00:23:34.92\00:23:39.72
treating people
for homocysteine?
00:23:39.75\00:23:42.01
- I've done some watching
of that, that's one of the new
00:23:42.04\00:23:46.06
factors that is very
related to cholesterol.
00:23:46.09\00:23:48.39
- Yes, a good way to
treat an elevated homocysteine
00:23:48.42\00:23:55.80
is by using vitamin
B-12, and vitamin B-6,
00:23:55.83\00:23:59.97
and folic acid.
00:24:00.00\00:24:01.14
Now you will notice right
away that folic acid is very
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likely to be present is a
vegetarian diet, so individuals
00:24:04.99\00:24:10.10
who are vegetarians, especially
life long, they may not have
00:24:10.13\00:24:15.38
a lot of difficulty with the
folic acid, but they may have
00:24:15.41\00:24:20.74
difficulty with the vitamin
B-12 so they often will need
00:24:20.77\00:24:24.40
to have it administered to
them in the form of a pill.
00:24:24.43\00:24:29.38
The sublingual pills are
among the best of those that
00:24:29.41\00:24:34.71
can be used because they
add the salivary factor and
00:24:34.74\00:24:38.42
that brings the
homocysteine level down.
00:24:38.45\00:24:40.60
I think that people who have
the kind of metabolic problem
00:24:40.63\00:24:45.59
that makes it so that
they are going to have diabetes
00:24:45.62\00:24:50.00
should be aware that the
homocysteine level can be
00:24:50.03\00:24:54.59
elevated and they
should be checked for a high
00:24:54.62\00:24:58.46
homocysteine level
because that can increase their
00:24:58.49\00:25:01.67
likelihood of getting a
number of other diseases such as
00:25:01.70\00:25:04.59
Alzheimer's disease, and
arteriolosclerosis, and cancer,
00:25:04.62\00:25:14.21
so that we find that elevated
homocysteine in a number
00:25:14.24\00:25:18.27
of other chronic diseases.
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What else would you like
to tell us about diabetes?
00:25:19.82\00:25:22.68
- Well, I think
you mentioned exercise.
00:25:22.71\00:25:25.30
- Yes! That's my
favorite treatment, I think it's
00:25:25.33\00:25:29.55
the best one that we have.
00:25:29.58\00:25:31.35
- It's really a crucial part,
you should not just deal with
00:25:31.38\00:25:35.92
diet, you really need to
get the person exercising.
00:25:35.95\00:25:39.59
It has two advantages,
first of all if you exercise
00:25:39.62\00:25:45.15
you are burning up the fuel,
you are lowering that glucose
00:25:45.18\00:25:47.43
because you are using it.
00:25:47.46\00:25:48.44
But another major advantage
is that exercise seems to have
00:25:48.47\00:25:54.44
a direct affect on the
problem of the rusty lock,
00:25:54.47\00:25:56.97
it decreases insulin resistance
so you are getting just what
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you want. - Yes,
with exercise and
00:26:01.68\00:26:05.72
the diabetic condition,
of course they are burning up
00:26:05.75\00:26:10.71
sugar that will be
removed from the blood.
00:26:10.75\00:26:15.74
Now sometimes we find
that mothers before the birth
00:26:15.77\00:26:21.12
of a child will get a
type of diabetes called
00:26:21.15\00:26:24.21
Gestational diabetes.
00:26:24.24\00:26:25.94
Gestational diabetes can have
some extremely high blood sugar
00:26:25.97\00:26:30.92
levels and mothers who have
this kind of diabetes are very
00:26:30.95\00:26:35.86
likely to give birth
to a baby overweight.
00:26:35.90\00:26:39.88
The overweight baby may
be 10 pounds or more and
00:26:39.91\00:26:45.44
these are post mature babies
and they are at a disadvantage
00:26:45.47\00:26:49.44
in being born, and the mother
who has Gestational diabetes
00:26:49.47\00:26:53.82
is also very likely to
increase her risk of getting
00:26:53.85\00:26:58.82
adult onset type of
diabetes, or Type II diabetes
00:26:58.85\00:27:02.52
in the future... What
else do you have to tell us
00:27:02.55\00:27:06.42
about diabetes? Do
you have some other
00:27:06.45\00:27:08.21
nice things, that
is such a big subject.
00:27:08.24\00:27:10.38
- It really is, we've
talked about fiber already,
00:27:10.41\00:27:13.70
I think that is a
crucial element an you know that
00:27:13.73\00:27:16.74
really points us to what
kind of diet one has to be in.
00:27:16.77\00:27:19.68
Animal products have no
fiber in the nutritional sense
00:27:19.71\00:27:24.00
and all the plant products
in the natural state have fiber
00:27:24.03\00:27:28.22
so a person needs to
be on a vegetarian diet.
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I want to mention one
food that is especially helpful
00:27:31.30\00:27:34.23
for buffering that glucose
from rushing in, and that is
00:27:34.26\00:27:37.47
beans, a wonderful
food for diabetics.
00:27:37.50\00:27:40.49
- Yes! Beans also have a
wide variety of other things
00:27:40.52\00:27:46.41
that are so protective,
not only for diabetics but for
00:27:46.44\00:27:49.48
others as well.
00:27:49.51\00:27:50.51
Well I hope that
this very brief discussion
00:27:50.54\00:27:53.54
of diabetes will be a
great blessing to you as well.
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