Hello, I'm Agatha Thrash, a staff physician 00:00:01.98\00:00:04.70 at Uchee Pines Institute. 00:00:04.73\00:00:06.69 A large part of what we see as physicians is 00:00:06.72\00:00:10.03 skeletal injuries or problems with the skeleton because 00:00:10.06\00:00:14.64 of overuse, or some kind of industrial activity 00:00:14.67\00:00:21.27 that results in some kind of injury. 00:00:21.30\00:00:23.61 So we'd like to talk with you about a number of these 00:00:23.64\00:00:26.48 problems in the next half an hour. 00:00:26.51\00:00:28.24 We hope you will join us! 00:00:28.27\00:00:29.24 Welcome to "Help Yourself to Health" 00:00:50.25\00:00:52.18 with Dr. Agatha Thrash of Uchee Pines Institute 00:00:52.21\00:00:55.89 And now, here's your host, Dr. Thrash 00:00:55.92\00:01:01.06 Doctors in all ages have named diseases by the things 00:01:01.07\00:01:06.63 that interest them the most. 00:01:06.66\00:01:08.17 And I have enjoyed this little bit of history of how 00:01:08.20\00:01:12.72 doctors name disease. 00:01:12.75\00:01:14.29 For instance, I wrote down a number of diseases that 00:01:14.30\00:01:17.09 were named in the last century... 00:01:17.12\00:01:20.02 "Icing cake spleen," "nutmeg liver," 00:01:20.05\00:01:24.73 and "millet-like TB" 00:01:24.76\00:01:27.60 In our age, we name things differently than with foods. 00:01:27.63\00:01:33.16 I think maybe the old pathologists were hungry people. 00:01:33.19\00:01:36.53 Maybe they weren't paid enough.. which might be 00:01:36.56\00:01:39.01 the same way it is today. 00:01:39.04\00:01:40.46 But today, we name diseases by sports a lot... 00:01:40.47\00:01:47.11 Like, tennis elbow, and joggers high. 00:01:47.14\00:01:52.65 These are just some names of disorders 00:01:52.68\00:01:55.49 that have interested me through the years... in seeing what 00:01:55.52\00:01:59.28 physicians name the diseases that they see. 00:01:59.31\00:02:03.08 Now the skeletal problems that we see in our day 00:02:03.09\00:02:05.87 are innumerable! 00:02:05.90\00:02:07.94 And I've asked Dr. Winn Horsley, who is one of our 00:02:07.97\00:02:11.57 staff physicians at Uchee Pines, to join me to tell you about 00:02:11.60\00:02:15.72 these very important skeletal issues... Dr. Horsley 00:02:15.75\00:02:19.92 What shall we start with? 00:02:19.95\00:02:20.99 Something about the upper body? Sure! 00:02:21.02\00:02:23.44 A good place would be right at the hand... Okay. 00:02:23.47\00:02:26.57 Carpal tunnel... All right. Sure. 00:02:26.60\00:02:30.02 The hand is quite a mechanism. Yes. 00:02:30.05\00:02:35.27 I've heard it said that you could take either the 00:02:35.30\00:02:39.26 human brain, or the human hand and see that this 00:02:39.27\00:02:42.68 most marvelous creation couldn't have come about by itself. 00:02:42.69\00:02:45.56 I'm quite certain... Just take this movement right here... 00:02:45.59\00:02:49.65 Opposition of the thumb to... 00:02:49.68\00:02:51.99 And you can do it with each one... 00:02:52.02\00:02:53.07 You can do it fast, or you can do it slow... 00:02:53.10\00:02:55.32 And you can just do all sorts of things with the thumb. 00:02:55.35\00:02:58.95 And all sorts of things with your other fingers. 00:02:58.98\00:03:01.59 It's just AMAZING... 00:03:01.62\00:03:02.99 I don't know if you've ever watched a baby... 00:03:03.02\00:03:05.25 when he first discovers his hands... 00:03:05.28\00:03:07.82 He just looks at them like this... 00:03:07.85\00:03:09.66 I've seen it twice now. 00:03:09.69\00:03:12.15 It IS quite a thing... they begin to actually get 00:03:12.18\00:03:14.24 fascinated with that object out there. 00:03:14.27\00:03:17.18 And it is a most wonderful thing that we've got 5 fingers 00:03:17.21\00:03:21.73 on each hand... A most marvelous creation. 00:03:21.76\00:03:24.52 Well, the movements you were just showing with your fingers 00:03:24.55\00:03:27.03 have very much to do with carpal tunnel. 00:03:27.06\00:03:29.82 The carpal tunnel... we'll look first at the 00:03:29.85\00:03:31.73 normal structure here. 00:03:31.76\00:03:32.74 Of course, you can see the bones that are the upper extremity 00:03:32.78\00:03:36.76 ...the arm and hand of a person. 00:03:36.79\00:03:38.99 We're going to focus right down now on the carpal tunnel. 00:03:39.02\00:03:43.09 Carpal is from Latin, meaning wrist. 00:03:43.12\00:03:46.48 And, if you look at the hand here, perhaps this way 00:03:46.49\00:03:53.79 at the camera, you can see that right at the wrist, 00:03:53.82\00:03:56.91 you have these mounds of bone on each side... 00:03:56.94\00:04:01.01 one on the thumb side and one on the little finger side. 00:04:01.04\00:04:03.59 And, in-between, there is quite a trough... 00:04:03.62\00:04:05.84 and that is your carpal tunnel. 00:04:05.87\00:04:08.60 It's not a complete tunnel though when we have it 00:04:08.61\00:04:11.93 just in bone form, but there is a strong band of connective 00:04:11.94\00:04:15.96 tissue that overlies this and makes it a tunnel. 00:04:15.99\00:04:19.02 I see... So this tunnel goes right in through here 00:04:19.05\00:04:22.14 and the band comes right over it just like that... Exactly! 00:04:22.15\00:04:24.44 This is the flexor retinaculum that was there... 00:04:24.47\00:04:27.80 And what goes through the tunnel 00:04:27.83\00:04:29.80 are some very important structures. 00:04:29.83\00:04:31.99 You were showing the movement of the fingers... 00:04:32.02\00:04:34.38 a lot of that movement, the flexing movement, that is the 00:04:34.39\00:04:37.77 bending down like this, is in flexor tendons. 00:04:37.80\00:04:41.07 Well, we've got 4 fingers and 1 thumb... 00:04:41.10\00:04:44.67 You've got quite a number of tendons. 00:04:44.70\00:04:46.43 In fact, there's more than 1 to each digit that runs 00:04:46.46\00:04:49.75 through this carpal tunnel. 00:04:49.78\00:04:51.60 And so, you have 8 or 10 tendons running thru the carpal tunnel 00:04:51.63\00:04:59.55 there is an artery but the thing of most concern 00:04:59.58\00:05:02.95 that we want to look at now is the major nerve 00:05:02.98\00:05:05.97 that's running through it... the median nerve. 00:05:06.00\00:05:08.82 Now, let's say a person is typing... all day long. 00:05:08.83\00:05:15.31 Well, with every typing movement, you are using 00:05:15.34\00:05:17.86 one of those tendons. Um hm... Yes 00:05:17.89\00:05:20.39 And so, you're getting movement through 00:05:20.40\00:05:25.28 back and forth in that carpal tunnel 00:05:25.31\00:05:27.60 And, if a person continues that more than a reasonable 00:05:27.61\00:05:33.33 amount of time, you can get that tendon inflamed. 00:05:33.36\00:05:37.02 Just by the irritation of constant use... That's right. 00:05:37.05\00:05:40.52 Another thing that could bring it on 00:05:40.55\00:05:42.75 would be gripping firmly... 00:05:42.78\00:05:44.26 People in an assembly line that have to grip and twist something 00:05:44.29\00:05:47.99 will often get that because, again, they're doing 00:05:48.02\00:05:50.74 not with just 1 finger but several fingers at once. 00:05:50.77\00:05:53.58 So all those tendons are tightening 00:05:53.59\00:05:56.11 through the carpal tunnel... 00:05:56.14\00:05:57.52 Or people at a checkout line. 00:05:57.56\00:05:58.90 They have to get that and make the bar code 00:05:58.93\00:06:00.97 go just at the right place. 00:06:01.01\00:06:02.22 I think there are just so many things... 00:06:02.26\00:06:04.82 When there is repetitive use of the fingers, the hand, 00:06:04.85\00:06:08.22 you are possibly likely to get this problem. 00:06:08.25\00:06:11.94 This overuse leading to inflammation of the tendons 00:06:11.95\00:06:16.83 means that you're going to have trouble having enough 00:06:16.86\00:06:18.90 room in this carpal tunnel. 00:06:18.93\00:06:21.26 Everything is just nicely fit... 00:06:21.29\00:06:23.81 And if it swells any... 00:06:23.84\00:06:25.03 If you get swelling, say, in those tendons, 00:06:25.04\00:06:27.42 then you're going to start squeezing. Ah ha 00:06:27.45\00:06:31.67 Now, the squeezing could pinch a little bit on the artery 00:06:31.70\00:06:36.22 ...but the thing that shows it first usually is the nerve. 00:06:36.25\00:06:40.77 And so that median nerve will end up getting pinched 00:06:40.80\00:06:45.01 instead of being just a straight column, 00:06:45.04\00:06:48.15 it would get pinched in the center... 00:06:48.18\00:06:49.91 have an hourglass kind of effect if they ever do surgery on that 00:06:49.94\00:06:54.18 Well, what kind of things happen when a person has carpal tunnel? 00:06:54.21\00:06:57.44 What does he sense? 00:06:57.45\00:06:58.80 I've had a number of patients come to me complaining of 00:06:58.83\00:07:02.19 wrist pain, and someone said, 00:07:02.22\00:07:03.20 "Well the wrist, that's carpal tunnel. " 00:07:03.23\00:07:05.08 But wrist pain, if that's all there is, 00:07:05.11\00:07:09.22 it's more likely to be something else than carpal tunnel. 00:07:09.25\00:07:12.01 It COULD be carpal tunnel but... 00:07:12.04\00:07:14.41 More likely maybe even be, some of these muscles... 00:07:14.44\00:07:17.64 Muscles or ligaments right at the wrist is fairly common. 00:07:17.67\00:07:22.26 So, more commonly what happens is, there can be pain but 00:07:22.29\00:07:27.10 pain that's going down into the hand. 00:07:27.13\00:07:28.93 Remember the nerve, it goes and takes care of 00:07:28.96\00:07:33.19 fingers... it takes care of the palm side for the thumb, 00:07:33.22\00:07:36.38 the index finger, the long finger here... 00:07:36.41\00:07:38.68 even out to this 4th finger. 00:07:38.71\00:07:41.97 And so that, if you're pinching that nerve, 00:07:42.00\00:07:45.10 then you can get tingling, numbness 00:07:45.13\00:07:49.15 If it's an advanced degree, you can even get 00:07:49.18\00:07:52.85 loss of muscle function, particularly of this bulging 00:07:52.88\00:07:57.72 muscle at the base of the thumb. 00:07:57.75\00:07:59.03 Um hm. So it gets thinned and not very strong... 00:07:59.06\00:08:03.37 It can, it's not commonly seen with even prominent 00:08:03.40\00:08:06.89 carpal tunnel syndrome, but in someone, let's say, 00:08:06.92\00:08:08.97 that's older and may have had it for several years, 00:08:09.00\00:08:11.96 you can get loss of the muscle substance, 00:08:11.99\00:08:15.40 atrophy of that eminence there. 00:08:15.43\00:08:18.58 Now, for the final diagnosis of carpal tunnel syndrome, 00:08:18.61\00:08:26.74 I don't know if I'm a bit biased because of my specialty 00:08:26.77\00:08:30.49 where we do electrodiagnostic work, EMGs 00:08:30.52\00:08:34.62 I feel that you really need that, certainly before doing 00:08:34.65\00:08:38.89 any surgery, and there's lots of carpal tunnel surgery done. 00:08:38.92\00:08:42.82 That diagnoses nicely when that nerve is pinched... Um hm 00:08:42.85\00:08:47.99 then it does not conduct the nerve impulses quickly 00:08:48.02\00:08:51.26 as when everything is normal. 00:08:51.29\00:08:52.96 I see. So that's a definitive diagnosis? It really is. 00:08:52.99\00:08:57.68 Certainly I would want that if it were getting operating on. 00:08:57.71\00:09:00.86 Certainly... Um hm. 00:09:00.89\00:09:02.09 Now, is there anything you can do then for carpal tunnel 00:09:02.12\00:09:07.13 that would not be surgery? 00:09:07.16\00:09:10.74 Well, the simplest of things, and I saw a write up once 00:09:10.77\00:09:15.20 where they said... 95% of the time, it clears it up. 00:09:15.21\00:09:18.84 Is that right? It's as simple as 00:09:18.87\00:09:21.16 immobilizing the wrist. 00:09:21.19\00:09:23.18 Just stop the wrist from moving around so much... 00:09:23.19\00:09:26.06 And so a wrist splint will do it nicely... I see 00:09:26.09\00:09:30.93 You just put this on and get your thumb 00:09:30.96\00:09:34.72 out here like that... There you are. 00:09:34.75\00:09:36.54 And it holds my wrist in a position. 00:09:36.57\00:09:44.91 And we just Velcro that in place 00:09:44.94\00:09:47.24 And then I'm immobilized... That right! 00:09:47.27\00:09:50.18 Now you would wear this... 00:09:50.21\00:09:51.18 Now I could still move my fingers. 00:09:51.21\00:09:52.79 You can... you can do most things with this in place. 00:09:52.82\00:09:55.73 So I could type... it might be a little difficult typing but 00:09:55.74\00:09:58.79 you could still handle things. 00:09:58.82\00:10:00.73 It fit... if I made it there pretty snug... Tighten that spot 00:10:00.76\00:10:05.21 It would pretty much immobilize this movement. 00:10:05.24\00:10:09.06 That's right. It's the actual wrist movements 00:10:09.09\00:10:11.54 that are the most immobilized. 00:10:11.57\00:10:13.06 A first trial might be just wearing it at night. 00:10:13.09\00:10:18.19 If that's not enough, then wear it all through the day 00:10:18.22\00:10:21.07 and night and only take it off when you're showering 00:10:21.10\00:10:23.25 or washing your hands. Um hm 00:10:23.28\00:10:25.65 So, you know, if you can take care of 95% of problem 00:10:25.68\00:10:30.07 with that, let's do it! 00:10:30.08\00:10:32.30 Can you buy these at a drug store? 00:10:32.33\00:10:35.07 I think quite a number of drug stores... 00:10:35.10\00:10:36.54 and if not a drug store, a regular medical equipment center 00:10:36.57\00:10:40.48 ...Like a brace shop or something. Sure 00:10:40.51\00:10:43.54 Well that's good... I like anything that that will cure 00:10:43.57\00:10:48.99 90 to 95%... because that sounds pretty good! 00:10:49.00\00:10:52.49 What about tennis elbow which I've had a lot of myself. 00:10:52.52\00:10:56.32 I want to hear YOUR story. 00:10:56.36\00:10:57.42 Ohh well I'll tell you my story! 00:10:57.46\00:11:00.18 We were digging footings at Uchee Pines for our 00:11:00.21\00:11:04.36 very first building... this was about 33-34 years ago. 00:11:04.39\00:11:08.73 And we were shoveling like this. 00:11:08.76\00:11:12.46 And, of course, we were ALL doing it and it was 00:11:12.49\00:11:15.03 an enjoyable work but we would do it from morning till night 00:11:15.06\00:11:19.81 ...so after 2 or 3 days, I realized that I was getting 00:11:19.84\00:11:22.62 a little sore there but I'd never had tennis elbow 00:11:22.65\00:11:25.45 ...didn't really believe that I could get it as strong as I was 00:11:25.48\00:11:28.68 and athletic, so I kept on doing this and then 00:11:28.71\00:11:31.51 one day, I couldn't do it anymore... it was too painful. 00:11:31.54\00:11:33.80 I had pain ALL down in here and exquisite pain right here 00:11:34.81\00:11:40.05 on this lateral epicondyle. Okay 00:11:40.08\00:11:42.66 Was I correct in the diagnosis? OH YES! 00:11:42.69\00:11:45.30 Lateral epicondyle is the word. 00:11:45.33\00:11:47.20 Hold your punchline of the treatment that worked so well. 00:11:47.23\00:11:50.39 I think you have something to teach me about that. 00:11:50.42\00:11:53.11 The way you describe the shoveling, 00:11:53.14\00:11:56.64 really fits with a common problem. 00:11:56.67\00:11:59.16 In fact the word, the expression, "tennis elbow" 00:11:59.19\00:12:01.89 has to do with playing a game of tennis and the main 00:12:01.90\00:12:07.30 part of that game, which would bring the problem, 00:12:07.33\00:12:09.46 is a backhand shot. 00:12:09.49\00:12:10.71 The person is going like this, putting a lot of force 00:12:10.74\00:12:13.54 into extending the wrist this way... 00:12:13.55\00:12:16.62 which is just what you were doing with the shovel... you see 00:12:16.65\00:12:20.30 And that puts a strain on this very spot where you get 00:12:20.33\00:12:25.10 what's the insertion of these muscles of the forearm 00:12:25.13\00:12:29.48 coming from the wrist, where you get extension of the wrist 00:12:29.51\00:12:32.87 it's where they insert UP at this side of the 00:12:32.90\00:12:37.60 end of the humerus bone, the upper arm bone. 00:12:37.63\00:12:40.66 This is the lateral epicondyle, Oh, there we can show it... 00:12:40.69\00:12:43.19 very easily. 00:12:43.22\00:12:45.20 Now that's a left side, so over here, we would be 00:12:45.21\00:12:49.72 showing it on this spot here. 00:12:49.75\00:12:54.19 Right there... that's it. 00:12:54.22\00:12:56.25 So this is the lateral... this would be the medial 00:12:56.26\00:12:58.71 epicondyle... much more rarely involved side. 00:12:58.74\00:13:04.42 Tennis elbow, a strain where the tendon or an insertion 00:13:04.45\00:13:12.58 Or for that matter, a ligament inserts in bone, 00:13:12.61\00:13:14.83 is really a very common musculoskeletal problem. 00:13:14.86\00:13:19.06 ...Causing tendinitis? Yes, you can call it tendinitis. 00:13:19.09\00:13:23.41 Some people use a very fancy term... "enthesitis" 00:13:23.44\00:13:26.23 Enthesis being the insertion of that 00:13:26.26\00:13:28.20 connective tissue into bone. 00:13:28.23\00:13:30.16 Yes... Well I want to know what helped you so much? 00:13:30.19\00:13:34.76 Well for some years, I didn't know what would help. 00:13:34.79\00:13:37.84 We rubbed aloe vera and all of that on my arm 00:13:37.87\00:13:41.64 and that would help, and especially massaging 00:13:41.65\00:13:45.37 I think the massage may have helped as much as the cream 00:13:45.40\00:13:51.99 but then finally, someone told me about this elbow band. 00:13:52.02\00:13:57.96 And it simply goes over the arm... 00:13:57.99\00:14:00.42 and since you've got yours bared, I will just 00:14:00.45\00:14:03.52 show you it just goes just below the elbow like this. 00:14:03.55\00:14:06.73 And, you can see this one has had a good bit of wear 00:14:06.76\00:14:09.56 because it's my very own and then it just comes around here 00:14:09.59\00:14:13.04 like this and you just use this doing what ever you do 00:14:13.07\00:14:16.19 and just wear it during the day. 00:14:16.22\00:14:18.40 I don't know if I have thinner arms than you but 00:14:18.43\00:14:20.35 ...yours is a little bit thinner 00:14:20.38\00:14:22.39 One would want to have a moderate amount of pressure 00:14:22.40\00:14:26.52 would it be rather snug or not? Not too much. 00:14:26.55\00:14:29.03 Not too snug... just a little bracing, that's all you need. 00:14:29.06\00:14:32.58 And even sometimes it will slide off, and if so, 00:14:32.61\00:14:37.94 you'd make it a little more snug... 00:14:37.97\00:14:39.81 But if it's too snug, then it cuts off the flow of blood 00:14:39.84\00:14:43.51 to it... Oh sure, sure. 00:14:43.54\00:14:45.43 And you can buy these at an ordinary pharmacy 00:14:45.46\00:14:47.96 Well I've seen a number of patients that have brought 00:14:47.99\00:14:51.66 that in when having the tennis elbow problems and it certainly 00:14:51.69\00:14:55.56 seems to be helpful. 00:14:55.59\00:14:56.83 If I can remember to put it on, before I'm doing shoveling, 00:14:56.86\00:15:01.31 or anything that has this kind of movement to it, 00:15:01.34\00:15:04.09 then I won't get the tennis elbow... 00:15:04.12\00:15:05.67 But once you get it, I think you've got a vulnerability 00:15:05.70\00:15:09.39 to it for the rest of your life. 00:15:09.42\00:15:10.62 And even the more advanced treatments aren't always 00:15:10.65\00:15:15.58 that successful. 00:15:15.61\00:15:17.05 You know, injections are used and so on... 00:15:17.08\00:15:20.42 And some extreme cases, even go to surgery 00:15:20.45\00:15:23.12 with no guarantee of success. 00:15:23.15\00:15:26.10 One technique that I have learned is using what's called 00:15:26.13\00:15:30.86 transverse friction massage. 00:15:30.89\00:15:32.80 The tendon would come in along parallel to the forearm 00:15:32.83\00:15:41.16 and you need to go against the fibers at 90 degrees. 00:15:41.19\00:15:44.61 So one would go up and down like this for 10-15 minutes. 00:15:44.64\00:15:48.68 I have done that some and I have to admit, 00:15:48.71\00:15:53.06 it hasn't been any tremendous success. 00:15:53.09\00:15:55.58 Well, let me tell you that it can be... 00:15:55.61\00:15:58.98 because I had that too one time but it was not 15 minutes. 00:15:59.01\00:16:03.98 I think it was a massage therapist... came to Uchee Pines 00:16:04.01\00:16:08.87 and I was really suffering with my tennis elbow. 00:16:08.90\00:16:12.34 Had lots of inflammation all the way down and especially 00:16:12.37\00:16:15.81 in-between these bones. 00:16:15.84\00:16:17.47 I was just having an enormous amount of pain... 00:16:17.50\00:16:20.07 And so she said, "Well let me work on you. " 00:16:20.10\00:16:23.37 And she did and she worked on my hand and arm, and forearm 00:16:23.40\00:16:29.39 and shoulder and back back there... 3-1/2 hours 00:16:29.42\00:16:35.48 she worked on it. 00:16:35.51\00:16:36.87 Now I don't know if ALL massage therapists leave their patients 00:16:36.90\00:16:41.53 black and blue, but the next day, I did have some blue places 00:16:41.54\00:16:45.44 here and I even began to pray she would stop 00:16:45.47\00:16:51.37 because it hurt so much. 00:16:51.40\00:16:52.59 The next day, I was totally paralyzed. 00:16:52.62\00:16:54.82 I thought, "Well, she's probably ruined my arm. " 00:16:54.85\00:16:57.68 But the next day, I was well. And no recurrences? 00:16:57.71\00:17:01.00 Never had a recurrence since then. 00:17:01.03\00:17:02.99 But since that one terrible episode, I've been very careful 00:17:03.02\00:17:06.31 with my tennis elbow band. 00:17:06.34\00:17:08.32 And I've worn it when I've been doing some... 00:17:08.35\00:17:10.69 Or is it just that you now have experienced this 00:17:10.72\00:17:13.80 and you don't want to ever complain about tennis elbow 00:17:13.83\00:17:15.52 and have a treatment again... 00:17:15.55\00:17:16.66 That's what Dr. Calvin said. 00:17:16.69\00:17:18.08 He said it hurt so bad that I'm going to ever let 00:17:18.11\00:17:19.93 that happen again. 00:17:19.96\00:17:21.89 But that did help me a lot. 00:17:21.92\00:17:24.58 I don't know if it really helped 00:17:24.61\00:17:26.20 There is one further thing to do... 00:17:26.23\00:17:28.89 if you do this... Now what I learned was directly to the spot 00:17:28.92\00:17:33.11 After doing a fair bit of this friction massage, 00:17:33.14\00:17:36.87 one can then do a manipulative treatment where you stretch 00:17:36.90\00:17:41.37 those fibers... almost overstretch them 00:17:41.40\00:17:44.84 And that will, at times, help too. 00:17:44.87\00:17:47.48 I didn't get into one aspect of the problem. 00:17:47.51\00:17:50.71 It's felt that 2 of these muscles insert together 00:17:50.74\00:17:54.46 and sometimes you get scarring between them. 00:17:54.49\00:17:56.40 And you need to somehow break up those scars. 00:17:56.41\00:17:59.68 Maybe she did some of that... I don't know. 00:17:59.69\00:18:01.17 That might be what she did. 00:18:01.20\00:18:02.83 But at any rate, I know it was VERY effective. 00:18:02.86\00:18:05.84 But very painful. 00:18:05.87\00:18:06.99 I felt I needed an anesthetic to actually go thru the treatment 00:18:07.02\00:18:11.86 Okay, so what about something that's pretty common 00:18:11.89\00:18:17.49 and that's a rotator cuff problem. 00:18:17.52\00:18:19.65 This is not a rare problem... in fact, I would put it 00:18:19.68\00:18:23.36 right up there with a very common problems 00:18:23.39\00:18:25.58 of joints and so on that happen to people... 00:18:25.59\00:18:29.24 And especially as we get older. 00:18:29.27\00:18:31.74 Rotator cuff is an overuse syndrome... 00:18:31.77\00:18:35.06 just like we were talking about carpal tunnel... overuse 00:18:35.09\00:18:37.92 In fact, tennis elbow. 00:18:37.95\00:18:39.15 A lot of these are when you're overdoing it on a 00:18:39.16\00:18:41.38 particular joint and activity. 00:18:41.41\00:18:43.98 Now one group of people who get a lot of trouble 00:18:44.01\00:18:47.40 with shoulders... with rotator cuff problems is swimmers. 00:18:47.43\00:18:51.82 You know for hours going... Australian crawl... 00:18:51.85\00:18:55.19 There ya are! And that kind of thing. 00:18:55.22\00:18:56.84 Well, here's a model of the shoulder. 00:18:56.87\00:19:01.82 I understand Don Miller... has something to tell us. 00:19:01.85\00:19:06.51 He's had it... He's had it! Okay! 00:19:06.54\00:19:08.17 He has had a rotator cuff problem... 00:19:08.20\00:19:10.07 This is Don Miller, who is a Lifestyle counselor 00:19:10.10\00:19:13.12 at Uchee Pines. 00:19:13.15\00:19:14.71 And I think we're being typecast, Dr. Thrash. 00:19:14.74\00:19:16.86 You're talking about your tennis elbow... 00:19:16.89\00:19:18.43 and you've got that, and I've got a lot of 00:19:18.46\00:19:20.95 rotator cuff problems. 00:19:20.98\00:19:22.69 And I've found, over my experience in my life 00:19:22.72\00:19:25.25 that once you've got it, you've got it forever... 00:19:25.28\00:19:27.56 But there are some things you can do. 00:19:27.59\00:19:29.65 Like the tennis elbow. I'm afraid that's the truth! 00:19:29.68\00:19:31.87 There are 2 things that we need 00:19:31.90\00:19:33.89 to make a point, though, about this. 00:19:33.93\00:19:35.71 #1... We need to take care of ourselves. 00:19:35.75\00:19:37.50 And there are things we can do to take care 00:19:37.51\00:19:39.27 of our rotator cuff, or our elbows, or our wrist, 00:19:39.30\00:19:42.03 or any other part of our body. 00:19:42.06\00:19:43.70 #2... That sign that you got pain tells you something's wrong 00:19:43.73\00:19:47.76 And, if you've got a pain... 00:19:47.79\00:19:49.52 I was raised in the mindset that if it hurts, 00:19:49.55\00:19:53.29 it must be good... You know, many years in the Marine Corps 00:19:53.32\00:19:55.39 Ay, it must be good because it's hurting you. 00:19:55.42\00:19:57.14 But when it starts hurting you, that's when you've got to 00:19:57.18\00:19:59.18 back off and quit doing that... 00:19:59.21\00:20:00.74 And find out why it's hurting and what you can do to help that 00:20:00.78\00:20:03.74 I think if I had stopped doing the shoveling when I first 00:20:03.77\00:20:06.56 started feeling pain, I wouldn't have had 35 years 00:20:06.57\00:20:10.26 of off and on having the tennis elbow... And I don't doubt that. 00:20:10.29\00:20:14.45 And what I would do each year... 00:20:14.48\00:20:16.06 I guess of all sports injuries, the most common 00:20:16.09\00:20:20.05 sports injury is probably the knee. 00:20:20.08\00:20:22.18 That's your 2 million dollar injury. 00:20:22.21\00:20:24.44 Well, this will be your 1 million dollar injury. 00:20:24.47\00:20:26.26 You get baseball pitchers getting this problem. 00:20:26.29\00:20:29.82 And it was the first day of softball season every year 00:20:29.85\00:20:33.47 I'd get out there... I didn't warm up 00:20:33.48\00:20:35.32 I'd pick up that large ball and I'd whale it as hard as I could 00:20:35.35\00:20:38.85 Now this is a very movable multiple axial joint that 00:20:38.86\00:20:44.84 is supposed to move all over the place, but that one 00:20:44.87\00:20:47.11 whaling throw, I'd feel like someone had stabbed my 00:20:47.14\00:20:50.27 shoulder with a knife. 00:20:50.30\00:20:51.70 And once I got that knife-like feeling, 00:20:51.73\00:20:53.59 well, this was the first day of softball practice... 00:20:53.62\00:20:56.33 I had a whole season ahead of me. 00:20:56.34\00:20:58.04 And I would play the entire season. 00:20:58.07\00:21:00.77 And I should have stopped at that point. 00:21:00.80\00:21:02.49 Ice to my shoulder and rested my shoulder. 00:21:02.52\00:21:05.29 What's happening in the shoulder there... you've got a few parts 00:21:05.32\00:21:09.58 to the shoulder... we can sort of show these 00:21:09.59\00:21:11.19 This is the humerus, or the upper arm bone. 00:21:11.22\00:21:13.71 You've got the head of the humerus here 00:21:13.74\00:21:15.58 You've got the scapula and you've got the glenoid process 00:21:15.61\00:21:20.12 of the scapula coming here, 00:21:20.15\00:21:21.59 and, of course, here's the clavicle, 00:21:21.62\00:21:22.86 so I suspect this will be my right shoulder which is the one 00:21:22.89\00:21:26.64 I always messed up every year... 00:21:26.67\00:21:28.02 sorting sitting here, my clavicle or my collarbone 00:21:28.05\00:21:30.48 coming here, my humerus coming down... 00:21:30.51\00:21:32.79 And it's that motion of taking this ball and throwing 00:21:32.82\00:21:35.99 it with all my might in this direction, which would 00:21:36.00\00:21:39.26 hurt my supraspinatus which comes underneath 00:21:39.29\00:21:42.26 the glenoid process of my scapula, 00:21:42.29\00:21:45.01 and either tear it, or somehow making it inflamed 00:21:45.04\00:21:47.98 I guess some people completely break the thing off 00:21:48.01\00:21:49.90 But there's that tearing which would cause me a lot of 00:21:49.93\00:21:52.54 pain at the beginning of the season. 00:21:52.57\00:21:54.17 And I would not stop at that. 00:21:54.20\00:21:55.82 I would play the next 4 or 5 months 00:21:55.83\00:21:58.25 every time I threw the ball. 00:21:58.28\00:21:59.64 If I tried to throw this thing across the room right now, 00:21:59.67\00:22:03.04 I would get that shooting pain. 00:22:03.07\00:22:05.16 It not only hurts... it not only keeps you from 00:22:05.17\00:22:08.20 playing softball or any type of throwing sport after a while, 00:22:08.23\00:22:11.22 it cuts down on your mobility... 00:22:11.25\00:22:13.15 And that's what hurts when you get older 00:22:13.18\00:22:14.59 because I'm not out there playing softball anymore 00:22:14.62\00:22:16.88 but I don't have the mobility, or I should say I didn't have it 00:22:16.91\00:22:20.41 until I did, what I would consider to be the treatments. 00:22:20.44\00:22:22.78 The treatments for anything is to slowly start building up 00:22:22.81\00:22:26.25 the strength and the muscles. 00:22:26.28\00:22:27.79 It's like the back muscles. 00:22:27.82\00:22:29.62 If you can sit there and start strengthening 00:22:29.65\00:22:31.73 the back muscles, even though you have back problems, 00:22:31.76\00:22:33.96 you're not going to hurt your back anymore. 00:22:33.99\00:22:35.71 Same thing here... 00:22:35.74\00:22:36.85 So I started, oh, some months ago, doing a special 00:22:36.88\00:22:41.08 set of exercises... basically exercise was 00:22:41.11\00:22:44.44 lightweights for my arms, and all the different 00:22:44.47\00:22:46.97 directions of my arm. 00:22:47.00\00:22:48.28 At the beginning of my exercise period, 00:22:48.31\00:22:50.53 I probably could not raise my arm higher than about 00:22:50.56\00:22:53.68 my waist, as I put it back here. 00:22:53.71\00:22:55.22 I could not more think about washing my back 00:22:55.25\00:22:57.42 with my right arm, than flapping my right arm... 00:22:57.45\00:22:59.91 and flying across the room. 00:22:59.94\00:23:01.50 Now I can take this right arm, and I can touch the 00:23:01.53\00:23:03.82 nape of my neck with it. 00:23:03.85\00:23:04.96 And that's ONLY because I did some good exercises 00:23:04.99\00:23:09.29 but key to any exercise program is warming up. 00:23:09.32\00:23:12.53 People go out there and they'll 00:23:12.56\00:23:13.82 just jump right down and start doing it. 00:23:13.86\00:23:15.33 We need to warm up... these joints we need to warm... 00:23:15.36\00:23:18.74 I think... this is a MARVELOUS piece of mechanism 00:23:18.77\00:23:21.97 I mean, I look and I'm just amazed at all these tendons 00:23:22.00\00:23:24.60 and ligaments and muscles, and bones articulating and 00:23:24.63\00:23:27.11 working in unison... 00:23:27.14\00:23:28.55 And the direction that all these can go. 00:23:28.58\00:23:30.70 I mean, this one... look it just goes all over the place 00:23:30.73\00:23:33.74 I mean, nothing else is quite as mobile as this joint. 00:23:33.77\00:23:37.16 Therefore, when it has that much elasticity, that much 00:23:37.19\00:23:41.83 mobility... it's got that much more chance of being injured. 00:23:41.84\00:23:45.12 So, we need to learn how to warm ourselves up, 00:23:45.15\00:23:48.20 and then always be doing strengthening exercises. 00:23:48.23\00:23:51.26 It's those people who never do any exercise... 00:23:51.29\00:23:54.99 Their muscles are just sort of flabby, sitting around 00:23:55.02\00:23:57.75 And then one day, for some reason, they get really active, 00:23:57.78\00:24:00.88 and they do something, and that's when you start 00:24:00.91\00:24:03.23 tearing ligaments, and tendons and hurting your muscles 00:24:03.26\00:24:06.29 So, my recommendation is, for anyone of the joint problems 00:24:06.32\00:24:09.78 is we need to be stretching, warming up, 00:24:09.79\00:24:12.31 and when we do hurt them... when we feel that pain, 00:24:12.34\00:24:14.42 that's when your body is saying STOP... 00:24:14.45\00:24:16.89 Tissue is being damaged, stop what you're doing 00:24:16.90\00:24:19.10 rest it up, ice it for now, rest it... 00:24:19.13\00:24:22.27 And before long, it will be strengthened. 00:24:22.30\00:24:24.46 Then start slowly building that exercise program up. 00:24:24.49\00:24:28.74 And you will get it all back, I believe. 00:24:28.77\00:24:30.75 Now I know why I see you going into the exercise room 00:24:30.78\00:24:34.67 every once in a while where those weights are. That's right! 00:24:34.70\00:24:37.55 Every once in a while. Okay... very good! 00:24:37.58\00:24:39.59 Well thank you so much. 00:24:39.62\00:24:40.63 I do appreciate that. 00:24:40.66\00:24:41.63 Now I'd like us to discuss some of the kind of 00:24:41.66\00:24:45.51 treatments that you can do for various skeletal problems 00:24:45.54\00:24:49.39 And Dr. Winn Horsley is going to tell us about the various 00:24:49.42\00:24:54.91 treatments that are the most common for the use 00:24:54.94\00:24:58.58 in skeletal injuries and to induce healing. 00:24:58.61\00:25:02.89 Well, I would like to come back to what Don said 00:25:02.92\00:25:08.07 about exercise and I didn't say anything 00:25:08.10\00:25:11.25 in my first part about exercise. 00:25:11.28\00:25:13.07 That really is crucial for stabilizing things. 00:25:13.10\00:25:17.51 Now I would put it closer to the end of a 00:25:17.54\00:25:20.49 rehabilitation program. 00:25:20.52\00:25:21.83 At first, you might want to rest the joint and do things 00:25:21.86\00:25:26.43 that will favor blood flow into the area. 00:25:26.46\00:25:28.67 By the way, there is a whole issue regarding inflammation 00:25:28.70\00:25:34.16 that we should deal with. 00:25:34.19\00:25:37.34 When an area has just been hurt, 00:25:37.37\00:25:40.03 you will generally have inflammation. 00:25:40.06\00:25:44.21 Inflammation is... Four cardinal signs that we 00:25:44.24\00:25:47.45 learned in medical school, and I think nurses learn them... 00:25:47.48\00:25:50.09 Yes... 4 Latin words. That's right! 00:25:50.12\00:25:53.12 "Tumere" which just means it's swollen. 00:25:53.15\00:25:55.04 "Dolor" is pain. 00:25:55.07\00:25:57.44 "Calor" is heat. 00:25:57.47\00:26:00.35 "Rubor" is the redness. 00:26:00.36\00:26:02.33 So, you've got more blood in that area. 00:26:02.36\00:26:04.95 Now... Everyone thinks of inflammation as an enemy. 00:26:04.98\00:26:08.20 They think of inflammation as being the injury. 00:26:08.23\00:26:11.18 And it's quite a misconception. 00:26:11.21\00:26:12.92 Oh yes, it's the reverse, it's the healing... That's right! 00:26:12.95\00:26:15.32 And so, you actually do NOT want to interfere, 00:26:16.29\00:26:20.47 in any severe way, with inflammation UNLESS, 00:26:20.50\00:26:24.74 and this is not that common... UNLESS that inflammation 00:26:24.77\00:26:27.55 is SO severe... the swelling is so severe, 00:26:27.58\00:26:30.06 that you're not getting more blood flow into the area. 00:26:30.09\00:26:32.13 If you get so much swelling, that the skin gets kind of 00:26:32.16\00:26:35.71 shiny and glassy, maybe that would be a time 00:26:35.74\00:26:38.08 to start doing something. 00:26:38.11\00:26:39.19 But here I'm talking not even about drugs, 00:26:39.22\00:26:41.96 which are used all the time, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory 00:26:41.99\00:26:45.13 ...they're trying to take away inflammation 00:26:45.16\00:26:46.70 But even of the simple treatments that we use, 00:26:46.73\00:26:49.80 ice and especially compression, don't overdo it. 00:26:49.83\00:26:55.27 If we overdo it, then we block the body's own 00:26:55.30\00:27:01.37 response... That's right. 00:27:01.40\00:27:02.72 Now I heard you say... "Rest... 00:27:02.75\00:27:05.51 I heard you say, "Ice" That's right. 00:27:05.54\00:27:09.17 And "Compression" 00:27:09.18\00:27:10.69 And then "Elevation" 00:27:10.72\00:27:11.92 In some cases, will be a good way to do it, and take care 00:27:11.95\00:27:14.85 of that inflammation. 00:27:14.88\00:27:16.12 Well, that's a good way to remember that... 00:27:16.15\00:27:19.23 "RICE"... rest, ice, compression and elevation. 00:27:19.26\00:27:24.38 I'm glad to know that little way to remember how to 00:27:24.41\00:27:29.33 treat a skeletal injury. 00:27:29.36\00:27:33.09 All skeletal injuries can be treated in this way 00:27:33.12\00:27:35.55 and then, of course, comes the period of rehabilitation 00:27:35.56\00:27:38.42 where you strengthen or mobilize the part 00:27:38.45\00:27:42.64 that has been damaged. 00:27:42.67\00:27:43.88 Well I hope this very BRIEF discussion of these very 00:27:43.91\00:27:48.27 FEW problems of the skeleton will be of 00:27:48.30\00:27:51.18 eternal blessing to you. 00:27:51.21\00:27:52.94 May God give you 00:27:52.97\00:27:54.32 His special blessing! 00:27:54.35\00:27:56.42