Hello, I'm Agatha Thrash
from Uchee Pines Institute
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and I want to welcome you
to "Help Yourself to Health"
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You know, there have
been times when I have thought
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"I can eat this good
thing and it won't be too much"
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And then I eat another
one and it IS too much!
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Have you ever wondered why
a person would eat too much?
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Because it doesn't feel good
and you don't want to do it.
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Well we'll be talking about
some of these things in the next
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half an hour... maybe you'd like
to join us. We hope you will
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Welcome to "Help Yourself to
Health" with Dr. Agatha Thrash
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of Uchee Pines Institute.
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And now here's
your host, Dr. Thrash.
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Babies usually do not overeat.
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It's not until they get
to be, oh... 3 or 4 years old
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or maybe even 2 years old
that they begin to overeat...
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and that usually because mom
has said, "Now, you can't leave
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this table until
you've cleaned that plate. "
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And then they begin to realize
that when they eat a lot,
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that pleases mom.
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And so they want to eat a lot...
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And pretty soon, they begin
to develop various things that
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let you know that
they're overeating.
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Maybe they have intestinal
problems or bad breath,
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or they start gaining weight and
they graduate into husky clothes
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and pretty soon they get a
double chin and then they get
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skin problems and this
lets you know that the baby
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has been overeating.
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But now, what about in adults?
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Are there automatic cutoffs
of the appetite for adults
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as there are for children?
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With a baby, newborn, he eats
until he knows he's had enough
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and then he doesn't eat anymore.
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And you can continue to offer
him the nipple again and again
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and he doesn't take it.
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Why do adults not
do the same thing?
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Why do they not realize that...
"I've had enough, I won't eat
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anymore. "
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Well, there are
several reasons for that.
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Let me just describe a
little bit, some of the controls
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that we're now recognizing
an adult has for the appetite.
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First in the stomach, there
is produced a hormone called
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"ghrelin," you may
not have heard of it.
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Ghrelin is a hormone
that signals the brain that we
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need to have a good appetite.
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And so, the appetite keeps
going forward until you have
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eaten enough to
satisfy the appetite.
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And that's one
control of the appetite.
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And there's another one...
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When we eat, the
blood sugar level goes up,
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and, along with
that, goes insulin.
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Insulin stimulates the fat cells
to produce a substance called
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"leptin"... again, you
may not have heard of that.
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But leptin signals the central
nervous system that you've
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eaten enough and this
is because of the complex
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interactions of the
food, the insulin, the sugar,
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the ghrelin, the
leptins and so forth.
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All of these have to do
with the control of the appetite
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and it makes it
a very nice system.
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Now, what can interfere
with this to make it so that
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we DON'T have a good
cutoff for the appetite?
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The person just keeps on having
an appetite and it never quits.
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And even though they
know they've had enough,
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they still have such an enormous
appetite and such an urge to eat
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and the appetite is
clamoring so loudly,
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that they continue to eat.
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What can make that?
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Well, there are 2 big things...
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One is that our
great love of fats...
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And if a meal is very fatty,
then the fat tends to gum up
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the works somehow with insulin
and we aren't entirely certain
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how that is.
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We just know that a high fatty
meal causes the cells to have
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insulin resistance and somehow
that messes up the works and
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it can't signal the fat cells
to produce leptin which then
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would cut off the appetite
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through the
central nervous system.
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So that's one
thing... A heavy, fatty meal.
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Then another thing that
interferes with this system
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is "fructose. "
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Now fructose is a twin... almost
an identical twin, to glucose.
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Glucose will stimulate
the production of insulin.
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Fructose does not
do so in the same way.
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And so, if we take a lot
of fructose, then the insulin
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is not produced in the way
that will signal the fat cells
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to produce leptin which
then signals the central
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nervous system that the
appetite should be cut off and
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there is no more.
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And so, fructose, which we
find in a lot of foods today,
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you can read the list
of ingredients and you will
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find those, and it's
especially high in soft drinks.
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So for people who have
a problem with the weight,
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they would be well-advised not
to take the fructose-containing
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drinks, or any other
food containing fructose.
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Cooks will recognize that
fructose is also what is called
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confectioners sugar... a
very sweet powder used in making
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frostings for cakes...
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And that's why,
when you go to a wedding,
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you see the wedding cake
there and it high with icing.
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The icing is made from
Crisco and confectioners sugar
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mixed together
about half and half.
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Then they make this
nice frosting and you eat the
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high fat, high fructose
food and you have no cutoff
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for the appetite.
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And so you could sit there
and eat the whole wedding cake
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all on your own... for the
most part, unless other things
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begin to get to your
central nervous system and
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make you feel sick.
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Now, how can the person who
is overweight learn what to do
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so that they can lose weight?
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Now I've told you a few things
... a few foods not to eat,
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...soft drinks, high
fatty things, but there is much
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much more to the
problem than that.
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In fact a much easier way...
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and I have asked
Dr. Winn Horsley, who is
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my colleague at Uchee Pines,
to assist me in describing
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this matter to you.
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This is Dr. Winn Horsley,
who works with us at Uchee Pines
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and you're going to
tell us about foods.
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Enlighten us... give us
information that can help
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with this problem.
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Well, having been able to
talk with you at other times,
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I was just thinking
how you've, in the past,
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answered this very question
you had about... what is it
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that dampens or blocks this
point of losing one's appetite,
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of not having
more desire for food.
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And, I remember one conversation
we had about popcorn... Oh yes.
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And how popcorn... if
one takes just the popcorn
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that... you can enjoy it
for a while but I don't think
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that one would eat a
gallon of that popcorn that
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has ONLY popcorn... Yes.
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But, you made the point about
butter and other things added in
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And the salt... butter
and the salt... That's it.
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And one might think it's more
helpful putting in vegetable oil
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but I think it's the same
effect... The same effect.
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Then it becomes
irresistible... Yes.
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And it does seem... Then you
can eat a gallon... Yes, yes.
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So in contrast to that, I
remember what I saw in one
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commercial...
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a supermarket little
booklet that they had on foods.
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There's one thing
that stuck in my mind...
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it had under apples
that it has a substance in it
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that actually
suppresses appetite.
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And the reason it rung a bell
with me is that I've noticed
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that since childhood...
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In eating an apple or two,
it seems to just be enough.
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And perhaps there is some
of that in a number of foods
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when we eat them on their own
and especially in the raw state.
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There comes a point
where you don't need anymore...
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It's not that you're nauseated,
you've just had enough.
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You've had enough and you
feel very satisfied... You do.
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Nothing's clamoring,
you don't feel an unrest...
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you've just had enough.
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I wanted to say something
about this issue of diet
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because one of the
issues is that in my own family
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it's something...
that I remember my dad...
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One of the things that he...
he didn't struggle that much
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with it but he was overweight
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and so he would, at
times, go on a diet.
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And others, not just in
my family, but many people
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have gone on low-calorie
diets for a period of maybe
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8 weeks... maybe if they're
really tough, even 4 or 6 months
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And these diets, especially
even the more restrictive ones
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going down to 1000 or
less 800 calories per day.
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Nobody can live in those
for the rest of their lives.
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That's right... you
can take it for a while.
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And so, you take it for a
while and then when you go back
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of course you're going back,
you're suddenly relieved...
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You are no longer in
this concentration camp of
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restrictive food.
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What do you go back to?
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You go back to the
diet you always had...
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and that's the very diet that
made you fat in the first place.
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You've already done
a laboratory experiment
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on that diet... That's right!
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It's going to make you fat.
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And in fact, this thing
of dieting for a month or 2
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or 6 and then going back
to your regular form of eating
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Actually diet is a general
word that means whatever you're
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eating, so whatever your plan
of eating is now, is a diet.
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But, we've used the
word for diet restrictions.
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So they do the restrictive
diet and then back to their
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regular diet and then, of
course, they gain the weight
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back and then they
go onto another diet.
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That's been called yo-yo dieting
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because what
happens to the weight?
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It will go down, of course,
when you restrict for a while.
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And then, of course, as
soon as you go back to your
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regular diet, you go back up.
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But the problem is... they've
shown this, that it's not just
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the loss of weight, and then
the getting back to where you
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were before... in fact,
the person is worse off when
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he returns... Usually fatter.
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That's right!
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When you do this
rather severe restriction,
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the tissue that suffers first
and foremost is muscle tissue.
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And so the person loses a
fair bit of their muscle tissue,
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but then when they
put the weight back on,
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when they go back to
their regular way of eating...
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It is fat tissue
they put back on.
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Not muscle so much.
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That's exactly right.
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They would have been better
off not to have done this...
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And then the cholesterol suffers
under that regime also because
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it tends to climb if they have
the family type of history of
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climbing cholesterol, the
cholesterol will climb with
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this sort of yo-yo thing.
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You know, with respect
to these things about diets
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and you see books coming
out all the time on this,
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the focus is very
largely on how much you eat.
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It's on how many calories.
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You know, you have every food
item with the number of calories
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it has in it...
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So people work and work at this
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and the number of calories
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and how many
calories have I eaten today
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and whether I can have
another piece of this or that.
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And I think just from having
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talked with people
that have wide experience...
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yourself and others...
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that we really could
and should change that focus
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from how much,
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in terms of calories,
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calories measuring the
energy or fat-producing
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potential of food.
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But instead of looking at that,
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look at
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what kind of food...
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what food we're eating
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that's one issue
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and the other
one is when we eat.
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So... what and when
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rather than how
much... That's right.
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If we do that
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and we make the right choices,
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we have to become
specific about that.
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If we do that,
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amazing things happen.
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Maybe before
saying anymore about that,
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let's get to the specifics.
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What about the "what"...
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Well...
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the foods that
are animal in origin
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from eggs, dairy...
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In fact, you just
think about those foods...
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those foods were made
for tiny, new creatures
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that need maximum
nutrition for growth.
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And maximum growth
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in a short period of
time... That's right.
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They're not made for adults.
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Those foods are
going to promote growth...
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but the only
growth that adults can do
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which is this way...
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Those animal foods
really need to be...
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in fact, I'm going to say it...
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not just restricted,
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they need to be eliminated.
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If a person is serious
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about losing weight,
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they need to go on a diet
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that has no
animal products. Yes...
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I agree 100%... Okay.
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It's the easiest that way...
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and a lot of times,
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people will say, "Well I...
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I like my meat,
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I like my dairy products.
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I can't live without cheese. "
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And I tell them that
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they can...
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that there are some
very good substitutes
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And, we're going to be
talking about that too.
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Okay... Yes.
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Now that step on its own...
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if they will take that
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step to a vegetarian diet...
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I like the word "vegetarian"...
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it's saying...
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vegetarian,... it from
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vegetation only.
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Nowadays we use a lot the word
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"vegan"
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as though vegetarian can be
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eggs and cheese,
in addition lacto-ovo.
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But a strict vegetarian diet
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sticks just with vegetation.
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When you do that,
that's often enough
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for the weight to
start coming down.
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That's fruits, vegetables,
whole grains, nuts and seeds.
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That's it.
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And a wide variety... tremendous
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And you leave off meat,
milk, eggs and cheese...
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So it's 4 for 4...
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There you are.
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So that's the first step...
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is a total vegetarian diet.
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That's the "what"...
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"what" food to eat.
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The next step is the "when. "
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And the when of eating...
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it should be
first a good breakfast.
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And a good breakfast
should be early in the day.
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We're not saying a brunch
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or a lot of people,
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the first meal they eat
will be at noon or later.
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No, eat early in the day,
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not that long after you get up.
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And then, the
next point to make is
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nothing at all
until your next meal.
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And so the very important
aspect of the when is...
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No snacking, not a
peanut, not even juices...
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No fruit juices.
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Drink water...
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Nothing at all
until your next meal
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and that should be at
a time when the stomach
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has not only finished its
work for the previous meal but
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has had a time to rest.
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So 5 hours I think as being
at least a necessary amount
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and 6 is even better.
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And this rest time is
very important too for a
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healthy intestinal tract.
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The stomach
will be more healthy,
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we will have fewer diseases
of the intestinal tract like
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even cancer of the colon...
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and gastritis and peptic
ulcers are all less common
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in people who have
that rest period...
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which means from 3 to, say, 4
hours for the complete digestion
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of the meal...
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and then a good hour for resting
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before attempting the next meal.
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Now you had
something else to say...
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The next thing, of
course, is the next meal...
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so that would be
your midday meal.
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If you want to call it a lunch.
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Lunch, in I think
many peoples' minds
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is, you know, a sandwich or two.
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But if we're making
that a good, solid meal,
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notice, I'm not talking about
calorie restriction at all...
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No... you haven't mentioned it.
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So far it's been
"what" and now it's "when. "
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And so let's make
it a good solid meal...
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And so, I think the word
dinner is a good word to apply
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to this midday meal... I do too.
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And so eat a good meal
there and then again...
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this same rule of
nothing in between.
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You finished your
meal, don't eat the slightest
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bit of any nutrition,
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anything with calories in it.
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There you can count you're
calories... that's the time.
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Yeah I bet, it's
zero... it's zero!
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Now, that that we've already
described is very important
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but if anyone that we're talking
to is really serious about
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wanting to lose weight...
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Here comes the one
thing that may seem hard,
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and that is
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supper...
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should really
not only be light...
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if you really
want to lose weight,
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you should eliminate supper.
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If you do that,
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it's going to make
the job just so easy.
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AND... you make think of that
as being a terrible suffering
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you know... going to bed
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with an empty stomach
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as though you were
some poor starving child
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in Timbuktu or
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somewhere, you know,
in a concentration camp.
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The person...
everyone needs to realize this,
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the digestive system
adapts in a wonderful way
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within not many days
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to any regime you give it.
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...any reasonable regime.
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People that eat their
main meal at midnight...
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they seem to be quite
happy with doing that.
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Dogs... pets that we feed,
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often are quite
content if you just...
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many owners just give them
just once a day their meal.
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Two meals in a day
is plenty enough... Yes.
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And so, going without that
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evening meal
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the first time since
you're accustomed to having it,
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yes, you'll feel deprived.
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But if you can just hold on,
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think of people
going through wartime
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and the terrible hardships...
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you can just bite
the bullet for 2-3 days
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of saying no to that
clamor of the stomach
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you'll find,
after not many days,
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that, in fact, you're not
even hungry at suppertime.
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Your digestive system
works a little bit like a clock,
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you can set it.
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If you don't give it
food at a certain time
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and you're consistent,
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it doesn't clamor anymore.
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It is very
definitely a timed process.
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So we can time when
we want to have appetite.
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And then, if we are
careful enough with it,
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then it will
cooperate with us on that.
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You know, that
simple a thing of just
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going to a
strict vegetarian diet
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2 meals a day
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and it's the
first 2, not the last 2.
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Just those items
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in almost all cases
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certainly in the
vast majority of cases
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is going to bring about
00:20:13.02\00:20:15.45
a tremendous change
for anyone that's obese.
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They're going to find that
without even counting calories,
00:20:17.74\00:20:21.08
watching calories, etc...
00:20:21.11\00:20:22.54
that in between meal time,
00:20:22.57\00:20:23.90
that they're going
to start losing weight
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and they won't feel bad about
missing supper once they've
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gotten into the program.
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Now one more point I want
to make and that's this...
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You mentioned that your father
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had a problem with his weight...
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I have met a few of
the members of your family
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and some of them
are a little plump
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but people tell me all the time
00:20:47.53\00:20:49.32
"Well yes, Dr. Thrash,
00:20:49.35\00:20:50.89
you can control your weight
because you're a doctor. "
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And Dr. Winn, you
can control your weight
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because you're a doctor...
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But I know that your
father was a doctor too
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and your mother and everybody
in your family is a doctor...
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your extended
family... they're all doctors.
00:21:03.81\00:21:06.24
This ideas of doctors having
better control is just a myth.
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It's a myth... Absolutely.
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When we decide we
want to lose weight,
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the first thing to do
is to pray about the matter
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ask the Lord to help
you to direct your program.
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Thank you so much...
You bet. Appreciate that.
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Now I would like for
us to discuss some things
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about what you CAN eat.
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If you're going to
restrict what you do eat
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and certainly if
you don't have cheese,
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it just seems to me that
life would hardly be worthwhile
00:21:34.33\00:21:37.91
without cheese.
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And so, if I
don't eat dairy cheese,
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what can I eat?
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Are there other cheeses?
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Why yes, there are many...
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There are
hundreds of other cheeses.
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When you have dairy cheese,
there are what... 5, 10, 15.
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But with vegetarian
cheeses, they are limitless.
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They're just
all over everywhere.
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And my assistant, Lidia Seda,
00:22:00.31\00:22:03.39
who is from Uchee Pines.
00:22:03.42\00:22:05.94
She is a VERY good cook
00:22:05.97\00:22:08.08
and I'm always happy
to eat at Lidia's house.
00:22:08.11\00:22:13.18
So you've got some
wonderful things that smell good
00:22:13.21\00:22:16.30
and one thing is one
of my very favorite foods,
00:22:16.33\00:22:20.38
I can see that it's
macaroni and cheese,
00:22:20.41\00:22:22.81
or a similar dish
of pasta and cheese.
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Pasta and cheese,
yes, these types of cheeses
00:22:25.76\00:22:29.83
are wonderful
because they are filling.
00:22:29.86\00:22:32.32
And that's one of the things
about having fat in the diet,
00:22:32.35\00:22:35.89
it's filling. It
helps to satisfy.
00:22:35.92\00:22:38.10
And these types of
cheeses that we have here
00:22:38.13\00:22:41.33
also are filling.
00:22:41.36\00:22:42.36
They're made out of nuts.
00:22:42.39\00:22:43.73
And nuts do have oils
00:22:43.76\00:22:45.89
with a natural source of oil
00:22:45.92\00:22:47.59
and also they're
combined with fiber.
00:22:47.62\00:22:49.35
So that the oil and
other nutrients are combined
00:22:49.38\00:22:52.60
together with the fiber
00:22:52.63\00:22:53.60
and are released and are
worked into the metabolism
00:22:53.63\00:22:56.81
a little differently than when
they're in a concentrated form.
00:22:56.84\00:22:59.75
...as mentioned,
00:22:59.78\00:23:00.97
the nuts, they have oils
and then they have fiber..
00:23:01.00\00:23:05.33
Both of these are
excellent for the cholesterol.
00:23:05.36\00:23:08.83
since they are vegetable
oils... that's right...
00:23:08.86\00:23:11.48
and fiber.
00:23:11.51\00:23:12.89
And of course, animal
products don't have any fiber...
00:23:12.92\00:23:17.23
Milk doesn't have any fiber
00:23:17.26\00:23:19.40
and meat, although it fibrous,
00:23:19.43\00:23:22.28
fibrous tissue is a protein,
00:23:22.31\00:23:24.69
it's not a fiber which is
a carbohydrate... Exactly.
00:23:24.72\00:23:28.21
And what they are finding now
with different types of studies
00:23:28.24\00:23:31.22
is that high fat
diets also are conducive to
00:23:31.25\00:23:34.79
different types of cancers.
00:23:34.82\00:23:36.59
There was some research
done at the Ludwig Institute for
00:23:36.62\00:23:40.49
Cancer Research in Toronto
00:23:40.52\00:23:42.26
and what they found is that
individuals that were placed on
00:23:42.29\00:23:46.09
90 grams of fat per day
00:23:46.12\00:23:48.76
were more than likely to
increase their risk of colon
00:23:48.79\00:23:54.32
cancer, than those that
were on 30 grams of fat per day.
00:23:54.35\00:23:58.29
And the interesting aspect
about that, Dr. Agatha Thrash,
00:23:58.32\00:24:02.24
is that a plain
hamburger, some French fries,
00:24:02.27\00:24:06.09
and a donut, would
equal 90 grams of fat.
00:24:06.12\00:24:10.13
...And that's what
many Americans eat.
00:24:10.16\00:24:14.02
So they are raising their
chances of getting colon cancer.
00:24:14.05\00:24:19.35
Yes, that's a lot of fat.
00:24:19.38\00:24:21.63
And I can remember before I
paid any attention to my diet
00:24:21.66\00:24:25.49
in my irresponsible youth,
00:24:25.52\00:24:27.29
that I would eat
that at least once a day,
00:24:27.32\00:24:30.61
maybe even a couple of
times a day... Exactly.
00:24:30.64\00:24:32.31
...and feel good about
not having eaten too much.
00:24:32.34\00:24:35.69
And so would I...
00:24:35.72\00:24:37.02
quite a few years ago, when
I first arrived in Uchee Pines,
00:24:37.05\00:24:41.26
I know you know the story
and some others know it...
00:24:41.29\00:24:43.82
that I actually weighed
about a little over 200 pounds.
00:24:43.85\00:24:47.73
And now you weigh...
00:24:47.76\00:24:48.96
about 155... ah ha
00:24:48.99\00:24:51.59
You're a little taller
than I am Yes, exactly.
00:24:51.62\00:24:54.40
So what I found was that
as Dr. Horsley mentioned...
00:24:54.43\00:24:58.54
Just going on a
sensible diet, a 2-meal plan
00:24:58.57\00:25:02.10
and getting some
basic daily exercise,
00:25:02.13\00:25:05.05
not being excessive
but being consistent
00:25:05.08\00:25:07.73
is the most important thing.
00:25:07.76\00:25:09.62
And not focusing
so much on the weight
00:25:09.65\00:25:12.14
but focusing on
having a good diet...
00:25:12.17\00:25:14.55
And having fun with
your menus and discovery.
00:25:14.58\00:25:17.46
Well I'd like you to tell us,
00:25:17.49\00:25:19.01
very briefly, how you
made these beautiful foods.
00:25:19.04\00:25:22.66
There are two of them.
00:25:22.69\00:25:23.66
Yes there are; one is
the American cheese and...
00:25:23.67\00:25:27.30
This must be the
American cheese...
00:25:27.33\00:25:29.41
This is the American cheese
00:25:29.44\00:25:30.41
and this one is
the cashew cheese.
00:25:30.42\00:25:34.25
And, let us show you
how to make these cheeses.
00:25:34.28\00:25:36.59
Let us show you with
the ingredients here...
00:25:36.62\00:25:38.31
The dill seed is optional.
00:26:00.25\00:26:08.05
After that, you blend
all your ingredients together
00:26:08.08\00:26:11.14
and you have your
cashew cheese sauce.
00:26:11.17\00:26:13.35
For the American
cheese is the following:
00:26:13.38\00:26:14.35
The carrot or pimento is to give
it that cheesy color as well.
00:26:41.29\00:26:45.97
So you just put
that all together...
00:26:46.00\00:26:48.02
the boiling water
melts the Emes gelatin... Yes
00:26:48.05\00:26:52.57
Emes gelatin is a
pectin-type of gelatin
00:26:52.60\00:26:56.95
which comes from plants and
not the type of gel that comes
00:26:56.98\00:27:00.82
the hides and horns
and hoofs of animals.
00:27:00.85\00:27:04.09
Animals... yes, it's a plant
base instead of animal based
00:27:04.12\00:27:07.74
thickener.
00:27:07.77\00:27:08.74
So then you can
just pour it into a mold?
00:27:08.75\00:27:10.50
You pour it into a mold,
place in the refrigerator
00:27:10.53\00:27:13.93
and let it sit for 2 hours
00:27:13.96\00:27:15.56
and then you can
remove it from the mold
00:27:15.59\00:27:18.11
and it's ready to slice.
00:27:18.14\00:27:19.11
And make sandwiches...
Make sandwiches... exactly.
00:27:19.12\00:27:22.10
You can make sandwiches then
with this cheese and tomatoes
00:27:22.13\00:27:25.36
and lettuce and it's delightful.
00:27:25.39\00:27:28.25
You can use a little
bit of the cashew cheese
00:27:28.28\00:27:30.25
to spread on the bread
as a spread for the bread.
00:27:30.28\00:27:34.92
In fact, you can use that
for a savory breakfast as well.
00:27:34.95\00:27:38.57
So you can easily see
00:27:38.60\00:27:40.32
that even without dairy cheeses
00:27:40.35\00:27:42.11
which have the growth-promoting
00:27:42.14\00:27:44.02
factors in them that
make adults grow this way,
00:27:44.05\00:27:47.46
we can still live
and still enjoy cheese.
00:27:47.49\00:27:51.23
We can say that the Lord is
good and gives us plenty to eat.
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