Hello, I'm Agatha
Thrash a staff physician
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from Uchee Pines Institute
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The heart is our topic for today
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and I think perhaps
without any question,
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most people feel that the heart
is that organ of the body most
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likely to cause
excruciating pain and even death
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if it goes wrong.
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So we'll be talking with
some of the issues having to do
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with the heart and how
to have a healthy heart.
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We hope you will join us.
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Welcome to "Help
Yourself to Health"
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with Dr. Agatha Thrash
of Uchee Pines Institute
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And now, here's
your host Dr. Thrash
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Now there is much that you
can do to make it so that the
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concern that most
people have about pain
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and the
likelihood of sudden death,
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you can do a lot with
your lifestyle to make it so
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that you can
minimize these concerns...
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and make it so that
your life can be peaceful,
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and that you can have a happy
and a healthy and hopeful future
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So our work here is to try
to find the kind of lifestyle
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that will be helpful to
accomplish just that goal.
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And so, I have with
me, Melissa Thrash, who is
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my granddaughter... who has
a plastic model of the heart.
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So, can you tell us about
the heart and what it's like?
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Sure... Each person's
heart is about the size
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of your loosely-clenched fist,
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and here on our
plastic model, I'll show you,
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it sits in the
chest about like this,
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and it's actually
twisted, so that the right side
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is showing more
than the left side,
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although the left
side is actually larger,
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it's just hidden more behind.
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Okay, let's take a
look on the inside...
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On the inside, we see the
right atrium is fed by the
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superior and inferior vena
cava by the deoxygenated blood
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from the body.
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And it's pumped through
the tricuspid valve into the
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ventricle and then from there,
it goes to the lungs to be
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oxygenated.
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It returns to the
left atrium and is pumped
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through the mitral
valve into the left ventricle
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to be pumped to
the rest of the body.
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And take a note of the
thickness of the wall on the
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left side, as
compared to the right side...
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The right side only has
to pump blood to the lungs;
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whereas the left side has to
pump blood to the entire body.
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So if this right ventricle just
pumps blood out to the lungs,
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then it doesn't have
to be really FIRM and hard
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and thick because the lungs
don't put a lot of resistance
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against the
flow... That's right.
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A very neat arrangement.
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The left side is
pumping the blood to the body
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by way of the aorta.
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Right at the base of the
aorta, the coronary arteries
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branch off and are
going to the heart muscle
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where they're going to
nourish the heart muscle with
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the oxygen and the
nutrients that it needs because
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even the blood is
flowing through the heart,
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it's not actually receiving
oxygen and nutrients from it
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until it gets to the
coronary arteries and goes
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to the muscle... Um hm
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So the coronary arteries
then are a very good functioning
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part of the
heart... That's right
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Because it supplies the
heart muscle with it's own
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nourishment. That's right.
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Very good... Thank you, Melissa.
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We have an interesting
thing about the heart
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and that is that its
anatomy is a large part of what
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causes its disease.
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And a colleague of mine,
at Uchee Pines, is going to
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talk with us about some of
the problems that can arise
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in the various
anatomical parts of the heart.
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This is Dr. Winn Horsley,
who is a colleague of mine,
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a staff physician at
Uchee Pines Institute.
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Dr. Horsley, what do you
have to tell us about the heart?
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Well, I'd like to start
with what Melissa finished on
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which was the coronary arteries.
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When you look at the
heart, on this model,
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the coronary arteries
stand out... they show in red
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And, it's
interesting that the Creator...
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everything was done in wisdom...
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He put these
arteries not deep in the wall
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He didn't have them
running deep in the wall
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because then, with every
contraction, the blood flow
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would be stopped in those
arteries... Well, that's true.
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The pressure would
close up even the arteries.
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Instead, He put those
coronary arteries right out
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on the surface of the
heart, so the flow can be there
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all the time.
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The functioning of
the heart depends on those
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coronary arteries.
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If we don't have
blood flowing through those
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coronary arteries and
taking care of the nutrition
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and oxygen needs of the heart,
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you don't have
the heart beating.
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And so that leads us to
what really is the number one
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killer in the U.S...
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blockage in those
coronary arteries.
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What would cause
those arteries to block?
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The big culprit, I
think, most people, at least
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in the United States, have
heard the word "cholesterol. "
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And, it's not out of date...
it's very much up-to-date
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and that really
is the guilty factor.
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We hear a lot
about saturated fat
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Saturated fat DOES enter
in but if we're going to name
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one real culprit...
it's the cholesterol
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And we'll want to get into
that I think.. further along.
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You know, you mentioned
the fact that now everybody has
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heard of cholesterol.
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Probably even every
5th grade schoolchild has
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heard of cholesterol.
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But when I was in
medical school 50 years ago,
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we could not do cholesterol
determinations on the blood of
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people, except one day a week.
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So, we collected all the blood
collections.. which weren't many
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because doctors
weren't very interested
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in the blood cholesterol.
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We didn't really know that
it was as important as it is...
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as we have since learned...
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But we would collect them all
together and then once a week
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we could get a
report on the cholesterol.
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Whereas now, you have
kits that people can have
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in their home, where they
can check their own cholesterol.
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It is something has
it's come into the public
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consciousness so much.
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I think quite a lot of the
interest and scientific focus
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on it started after
World War II when they noticed,
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surprisingly, in those countries
very involved in the war
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the ones that had a
blockade by the Nazi powers
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in their submarines so that
they couldn't make exchanges
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with the rest of the world
of food and they had to live on
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a rather sparse diet.
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In spite of what one might
think with all the stress of
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war... those very countries
ended up with a decrease
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in the rate of heart attacks.
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You can account for
that by their sparse diet.
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They had to eat fruits,
vegetables, whole grains,
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and nuts and
seeds that were produced
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on the land they lived on.
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That's right... Not so
many rich cakes and all kinds of
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dairy products that are huge.
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They couldn't get from
America all of the McDonald's
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products that are now available.
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That's it. Well that's good.
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Well I would like to
have Melissa show you how
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you would TREAT a person
who has an acute heart attack.
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Of course, the first thing
they're going to experience
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is that of pain.
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And so, Melissa, I see you've
got a friend here who will
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doubtless help you show that.
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Okay, this is Shannon Jenkins
who is a friend of Melissa's
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and she is the
fresh heart attack victim.
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So I see you've got
her feet in hot water...
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That's right...
Yeah, pretty hot.
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Okay, you're going to want
to put an ice bag on the chest
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and I just have ice
inside of a bag... a ziplock bag
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and I put it inside of
another ziplock bag and then
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zipped the other bag
just to avoid leakage.
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And then wrap it in a thin
towel and put it over the area
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where the heart is.
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You'll want to have an assistant
to help you hold the bag
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on her chest... I'm going
to have Shannon hold this...
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And while they're holding
that, you're going to want to
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put her feet into some
hot water to keep the patient
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warm while she's got
the ice bag on her chest and
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to loosen up her muscles so
that they won't spasm as much.
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And have some hot water
ready so that you can keep it
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warm... not necessarily
hot, but nice and warm
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and so have some hot
water ready so that you can
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keep her feet warm.
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And this is just to
do while you're waiting
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for a doctor to come, or until
you can transport the patient
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to the hospital...
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So it's definitely first
aid but it CAN be effective
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We had a patient one time,
who was sort of a grounds keeper
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for an estate that
was near Uchee Pines
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So he got a heart
attack one morning rather early
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So he came to
Uchee Pines to get help.
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He knew that we had
physicians there and even though
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he had never been a
patient there before,
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he drove over there in his car
and asked if we could help him.
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So, we had some
arrangements we had to make
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Usually we don't
accept acutely ill patients...
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and certainly not
heart attack victims
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And so, we had him to put
his feet in the hot water,
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and put the ice
pack to his chest...
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And within about 20
minutes, he told us that,
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very definitely,
he was feeling better.
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And then we were able to
transport a more comfortable
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patient to his doctor in
his hospital where he got his
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definitive care
for his heart attack.
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So we were able to
give him first aid for that.
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So it's a very nice treatment.
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Of course physicians will often
use morphine for heart attacks
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which is a very good
treatment to relieve the pain.
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But if you have no morphine
and you're in a field situation
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or the patient is
allergic to morphine,
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then this is a nice first
aid that you can do for that.
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All right, thank you
very much, I appreciate that.
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Now in addition to
these first aid things...
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which you hope you will
never have to deal with,
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because you hope that you
will never have a heart attack.
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But in addition to
these first aid things,
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there are some things
in diet that you can do
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that are MOST important
and that will go a LONG way
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toward making it so that
you will not get a heart attack.
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And I have asked one of our
staff members at Uchee Pines,
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a lifestyle counselor, to
show us some of those things
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having to do with foods.
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And, as you would expect, the
kind of foods that we would be
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dealing with are those kinds
of foods that can be protective
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and nourishing and
healing for the heart.
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And so I'm very happy to see
that... oh this looks so GOOD!
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Did you make this?
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Yes I did, Dr. Agatha.
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Lidia Seda is quite
skilled with foods and she has
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traveled with me a good
bit and done foods all over
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So, tell us about
what you have here.
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Well what I have here
is called a Waldorf salad
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and it's
basically a fruit salad.
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Fruits are just very
valuable in preventing
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any type of heart disease.
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Now usually, you
would have this type of meal
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in the morning for breakfast.
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Now what's wonderful about
having this type of meal for
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breakfast is that they
have found having breakfast
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in the morning will cut
the risk of heart disease.
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It has been found that
individuals who do have
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breakfast, cut their
risk by at least 40%.
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And it has to do with the
fact that the blood doesn't
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clump or aggregate...
which is one of the reasons why
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one may have a heart attack.
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So having a good breakfast,
Dr. Thrash, is a good start
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in cutting your
risk of heart disease.
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Yes it is, and looking
at something as nice as
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your Waldorf salad
here, makes me all more
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interested in breakfast.
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Of course breakfast is
my hardiest meal of the day
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and I enjoy it and I
think with this kind of dish,
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I could enjoy it even MORE!
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Oh... that is SO nice.
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I see raisins, and walnuts...
and raisins and walnuts are
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both good for the
heart... and bananas.
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Well, Dr. Agatha, why
don't we just give the recipe
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for all those that may
be interested in learning
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how to make a Waldorf salad.
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Well basically,
what you will need is:
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Along with this Waldorf
salad, is also an almond cream.
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And almonds, or nuts in
general, have been found to help
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reduce the risk
of heart disease.
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Now to make that, you will
need the following ingredients:
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And what they have found in
individuals who consume nuts,
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is those that consume
nuts less than once per week,
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do NOT have the same
results as those individuals
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who consume nuts...
let's say 1 to 4 times a week
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They will reduce their
risk of heart disease by 25%.
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Now those individuals who have
nuts 5 times a week or more,
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will reduce their risk
of heart disease by 50%.
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So, Dr. Agatha Thrash, just
by making this one little recipe
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you can be saving
yourself a lot heart ACHES...
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I tell you what I'm
going to do, Lidia...
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In the morning, I'm coming
over to your house for breakfast
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because I want some of that
almond cream threaded over this
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pretty generously...
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And... this is mine, you
have some more for yourself?
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We can make some more
Dr. Agatha... Very good.
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Well, I
appreciate that very much.
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It's a fact that the things
that the Lord has made for us
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so that we can be
HEALTHY are DELICIOUS things and
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so common.
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Everywhere you can find
bananas and apples and walnuts.
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Walnuts are very good for
us and very good for the heart.
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And, of course, there are
other nuts that are very good...
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Almonds... Almonds
are queen of the nuts!
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And that's in the
almond cream that goes over it.
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Now, we don't want to eat too
many nuts because they are rich
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and they do require a good bit
of digestive effort on our part.
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Now with this background, I
would like for Dr. Horsley to
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join me again and we will
talk about some of the diseases
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and just what we can do in
the way of protecting ourselves
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and how we can recognize
these things... Dr. Horsley
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I found it so interesting
what Lidia was saying about nuts
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reducing heart
disease and I thought...
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There's one other little thing..
before we get into the diseases,
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that has a significant
impact on heart disease...
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on the biggest killer which
is coronary artery disease.
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Here it is...
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They did a study and
they found that men that
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drank more than 5
cups of water a day,
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had 54% LESS coronary
deaths compared to those who
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drank 2 or less
cups of water a day.
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Okay now... 5 cups a
day reduces your risk of a
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heart attack by 54%...
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Compared with those that
drank 2 or less cups per day.
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It's amazing... So just
drinking more water is cutting
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your risk WAY
down... less than half.
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Yes, you know we also know
the same thing about strokes!
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That strokes also go down,
as water consumption goes up.
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And that's
important for us to know.
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It's one of the most
excellent anticoagulants.
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Something that keeps the
blood just flowing well is
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water that it's mainly made of.
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It keeps the platelets
dispersed so that they don't
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hit each other and clump
together and start a little clot
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for you anywhere in
your blood vessel system.
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And another thing is, if
you're on a long trip and you
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are drinking water, it
also helps you to know that you
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need to stop you car and
get out and walk around a little
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at rest stops... That special
room that one has to go to
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Yes... Actually, we need
that exercise in our legs.
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We need the exercise.
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And on transoceanic flights,
it's very important that people
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drink a lot of water...
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Two reasons, one
to thin out the blood,
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and the second reason,
because they do need to get up
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and move around to go to
the restroom occasionally.
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Yes, were you telling us
earlier that there were actually
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several cases recently
of mishap, heart attacks or
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death, was it... that
had happened? Yes, death.
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That had happened... strokes.
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In fact, it's now
called "coach class strokes"
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That's the name of
it, "coach class strokes"
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because people
are in a small place,
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sitting immobile
with the seats, of course,
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making that pressure on
the thighs which causes stasis
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of the blood in the
lower extremities and
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encourages clotting.
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And so, toward the end
of the flight, or even after
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the next day or
so, after the flight,
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they dislodge one of these
clots and it either goes to the
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lungs or some other
vital organ and causes
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a real problem...
can cause death even.
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And right after the
French published 3 cases,
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the Germans
published 3 more cases...
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And then there was another
study, I don't remember where
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it came from, that had a whole
series of coach class strokes.
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So now, some airliners are
actually showing on their screen
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"tense your
muscles and relax them. "
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Another thing
that's good to do is to
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lift the hands up over the head.
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Sometimes you can't do
much with your legs, but you can
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lift your hands up over
your head and take a big breath
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and that's very helpful.
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You know what you can
always do... isometric exercises
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for the legs... Yes,
isometrics are very good.
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You can just sit there and
tense your legs and relax them
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and move your feet and
push them down and back.
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You know, sometimes I even take
with me, if I've got a very long
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flight, I'll take with me one
of these little hand grippers
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and then I just work
out with them... you know,
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as you press them together...
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Pretty soon,
you get to thinking,
00:19:40.94\00:19:43.03
"Well, you know, I need
to take a real big breath. "
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So you take a big
breath and so it reduces the
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deoxygenation of your blood.
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It gets that blood circulating.
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It keeps the blood circulating.
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You know, I think we
should spend a little more time
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talking about that basic issue
of cholesterol and blockage
00:19:59.67\00:20:03.22
of arteries...
Good, would you do that.
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Maybe you might like to
draw some pictures for us
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to let us see what
these things look like.
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Well, the basic picture
which, I think, many people
00:20:12.73\00:20:18.63
are aware of is...
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If we have an artery
here, and we'll draw it as an
00:20:19.84\00:20:24.96
open tube...
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What happens is, the
first problem of deposits,
00:20:26.23\00:20:32.95
that start plugging the
artery, is from cholesterol.
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So we start filling in this
tube that should be wide open
00:20:37.62\00:20:47.02
letting the blood just
course through it easily.
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This blockage, of course,
can keep on increasing and
00:20:49.90\00:20:55.58
you can get to the point where
you're blocking the flow so much
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that only half
the diameter is left.
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Now, this beginning of the
problem... before we get to a
00:21:06.57\00:21:11.89
late stage like this, where
a person might be experiencing
00:21:11.92\00:21:14.85
chest pains, what
are called "angina. "
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Long before that, it
would be of interest to note...
00:21:18.85\00:21:21.41
what is it that starts
this deposit of cholesterol?
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And certainly, one big issue
and one that has been looked
00:21:27.99\00:21:34.27
at so much over
the past years is...
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How much cholesterol
is there in the blood?
00:21:37.68\00:21:40.01
What the level is...
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The level of cholesterol... The
total cholesterol in the blood.
00:21:41.86\00:21:45.68
Now you mentioned
TOTAL cholesterol...
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that indicates that there
may be fractions of cholesterol.
00:21:47.75\00:21:51.01
Exactly! And right now
would be a good time maybe to
00:21:51.02\00:21:54.64
say what those are.
00:21:54.67\00:21:56.25
And what the total level would
be... what a good level is.
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Does everybody have cholesterol,
or can some people not have any?
00:22:00.42\00:22:04.23
Well, in talking about
the total, let's get down
00:22:04.27\00:22:10.22
one interesting fact.
00:22:10.25\00:22:12.18
It's being found that
people that have a cholesterol
00:22:12.22\00:22:16.69
level under 200, have one-third
the risk of heart disease
00:22:16.72\00:22:21.39
than those that
have one of 240 or more.
00:22:21.42\00:22:24.69
So, that total cholesterol
level is very definitely
00:22:24.72\00:22:29.96
an important factor
for having this buildup
00:22:29.99\00:22:33.86
and eventually ending
up with a heart attack.
00:22:33.89\00:22:35.77
We want that total to be LOW...
00:22:35.80\00:22:40.11
lower is better in general.
00:22:40.14\00:22:41.79
But, we mentioned fractions...
00:22:41.82\00:22:44.36
because nowadays, we can get
a much better picture than just
00:22:44.39\00:22:48.30
the total cholesterol.
00:22:48.33\00:22:49.39
The total cholesterol,
we could say that it gives a
00:22:49.42\00:22:51.38
fuzzy picture.
00:22:51.41\00:22:52.90
The parts of cholesterol
can be classified this way...
00:22:52.93\00:22:56.73
And many labs give
precisely these names to them...
00:22:56.76\00:23:00.17
There is a fraction called "HDL"
00:23:00.21\00:23:04.20
which stands for
high density lipoprotein.
00:23:04.23\00:23:07.50
Lipo is a root meaning fat.
00:23:07.53\00:23:11.69
But in this case, we're
talking specifically about
00:23:11.72\00:23:13.53
fat cholesterol.
00:23:13.56\00:23:15.08
Another one is "LDL"
low density lipoprotein
00:23:15.09\00:23:18.69
And there's even very
low density lipoprotein
00:23:18.72\00:23:21.79
And in some
presentations, they'll get even
00:23:21.80\00:23:26.21
further fractions, but
these are the BIG main ones.
00:23:26.25\00:23:28.89
And, as we present this,
we should say that the low
00:23:29.65\00:23:34.75
density lipoprotein, the
LDL is generally considered the
00:23:34.78\00:23:39.35
DANGER FACTOR... the
one that is going to be
00:23:39.38\00:23:42.19
doing the depositing.
00:23:42.22\00:23:43.56
In other words, LDL is the
precise unit... the molecule
00:23:43.59\00:23:48.90
that starts STICKING
on the side of the artery.
00:23:48.91\00:23:53.52
And NOW even, we're talking
about SMALL units of LDL...
00:23:53.55\00:23:58.23
the smaller
fractions of the LDL.
00:23:58.26\00:24:01.10
The bigger fractions and
the smaller fractions and then,
00:24:01.13\00:24:04.20
of course, under that the VERY
low density lipoprotein. Yes...
00:24:04.23\00:24:08.04
One can go considerably
further... that's right.
00:24:08.07\00:24:11.26
Now many people, I
think are aware, that the HDL
00:24:11.29\00:24:15.96
is what's called
the "good cholesterol. "
00:24:15.99\00:24:19.18
This HDL has 2 properties;
00:24:19.21\00:24:25.78
one is that it does NOT
tend to stick to the wall...
00:24:25.81\00:24:30.15
which is nice but it has a
further and much better quality
00:24:30.18\00:24:33.93
in that it will tend to GO...
as it goes in the blood and
00:24:33.96\00:24:39.99
comes near the LDL
that's already deposited,
00:24:40.02\00:24:43.12
it can pull it OUT of
the deposit and get RID
00:24:43.15\00:24:48.68
of LDL that's already deposited.
00:24:48.71\00:24:50.37
The liver will then
handle it when it's taken
00:24:50.40\00:24:52.21
back into the blood.
00:24:52.24\00:24:53.36
What level is a
good level of HDL?
00:24:53.39\00:24:56.96
HDL, generally, one
would like to have at least 40.
00:24:56.99\00:25:03.13
I think some labs will
accept above 35 as good,
00:25:03.16\00:25:08.35
but it really is
better to have above 40...
00:25:08.38\00:25:10.49
And if you have one of 50
or better, that's excellent.
00:25:10.52\00:25:13.13
...60 even better?
00:25:13.16\00:25:15.04
I've seen people with 70s
and, I think, 80s... 80s yes
00:25:15.07\00:25:19.86
That makes you
very comforted... Yes.
00:25:19.87\00:25:24.29
Should we say
something more about diet?
00:25:24.32\00:25:27.45
I think so... I think
that we need to understand
00:25:27.48\00:25:29.91
more that each one of these
things clarifies a little better
00:25:29.94\00:25:33.01
just how we can go
about protecting ourselves.
00:25:33.05\00:25:35.97
So, mention a
little more about diet.
00:25:36.01\00:25:38.42
Because this whole issue of
cholesterol, is something that
00:25:38.45\00:25:44.28
people are ingesting.. something
they're taking into them
00:25:44.31\00:25:47.16
Now there's another expression
that's used all the time
00:25:47.19\00:25:49.86
with this and it's the
expression "saturated fat"
00:25:49.87\00:25:53.95
I'm just going to write
that over here... saturated fat.
00:25:53.98\00:26:00.95
And people think of those...
00:26:00.98\00:26:02.80
I used to think of them
as sort of the same thing,
00:26:02.83\00:26:06.88
or very much the same.
00:26:06.91\00:26:08.52
And that's
really a misconception.
00:26:08.55\00:26:11.10
Saturated fat is a fat...
a regular type of oil or fat.
00:26:11.13\00:26:17.63
Chemically, it's very
similar to other fats.
00:26:17.66\00:26:21.69
Cholesterol is VERY
DIFFERENT from fat or oil.
00:26:21.72\00:26:25.14
And the REAL problem
that starts these deposits
00:26:25.17\00:26:31.75
is the cholesterol.
00:26:31.78\00:26:32.91
It isn't the saturated fat.
00:26:32.92\00:26:35.27
Now the saturated fat, once
you have these deposits formed,
00:26:35.30\00:26:39.62
it CAN get entangled in them.
00:26:39.65\00:26:41.54
But since cholesterol
is the most basic culprit,
00:26:41.57\00:26:46.38
we should look at
what foods have it.
00:26:46.41\00:26:50.31
And when you look at it closely,
it's only animal products.
00:26:50.34\00:26:54.91
Only animal products?
00:26:55.92\00:26:57.39
You mean like meat, milk,
eggs, and cheese. Absolutely!
00:26:57.42\00:27:01.52
That give us the cholesterol.
00:27:01.55\00:27:02.77
One little word before we leave
this and I know we don't have
00:27:02.80\00:27:06.48
much time, but if you would
just mention a little bit about
00:27:06.51\00:27:09.37
oxidized cholesterol.
00:27:09.40\00:27:11.01
More recent... there's a
whole lot we could say...
00:27:11.04\00:27:14.61
LDL is when it is oxidized...
00:27:14.64\00:27:17.90
It is the actual
initiating factor and that is
00:27:17.93\00:27:21.65
cholesterol that we
get from the outside
00:27:21.68\00:27:24.03
Cholesterol that we EAT is
going to be oxidized and be
00:27:24.06\00:27:26.63
the worse culprit. Um hm!
00:27:26.66\00:27:27.89
Well you know, there's a
lot that can be said about
00:27:27.92\00:27:32.02
this but I'm sure that our
understanding is a lot better
00:27:32.05\00:27:34.85
than it was
before our discussion.
00:27:34.88\00:27:37.48
I learned some things
from Dr. Winn and I'm sure
00:27:37.51\00:27:40.45
that you did too.
00:27:40.48\00:27:42.04
Now, heart disease, along
with our spiritual diseases is
00:27:42.07\00:27:45.27
not God's intention for us.
00:27:45.30\00:27:47.34
So keep your HEART pure before
the Lord and in good health
00:27:47.37\00:27:52.02
so that the Lord can
BLESS you give you peace
00:27:52.05\00:27:55.16
and prosperity.
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