Hello, I'm Agatha
Thrash, a staff physician at
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Uchee Pines Institute
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Today, we'd like to talk
with you about the subject of
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"negative thinking. "
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Negative thinking can
not only ruin your day,
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it can also spoil your health...
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and we'd like to
present some issues having
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to do with this subject,
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so we invite
you to stay with us.
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Welcome to "Help
Yourself to Health"
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with Dr. Agatha Thrash
of Uchee Pines Institute
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And now, here's
your host, Dr. Thrash
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Even prophets of old
talk about the influence of
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the way we think...
on the physical health.
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And so, it isn't
unlikely that you would expect
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that physicians would be
interested in this topic...
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In fact, I have a number
of reports here in my hand
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about people who have
thought about this kind of thing
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through the years, as
well as in recent months...
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having to do with negative
thinking and its influence
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on the human body.
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My colleague at Uchee
Pines, Dr. Winn Horsley,
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is going to assist me in talking
with you about these various
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topics and this is...
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Dr. Winn Horsley, a
Canadian originally, trained in
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various countries of the
world and we are very fortunate
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to have him with us.
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And he is now going to talk with
you about... what's your topic?
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And the sky is the
limit on this subject...
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there are so many
things to talk about.
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There really is... I'm
focusing on one aspect of it...
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and that is depression.
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Certainly negative thinking
would include depression.
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And, when we
talk about depression,
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we're actually
talking about a bit more than
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say... so and so is
depressed about an upcoming exam
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that he hasn't
prepared well enough for.
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Nevertheless, I think
that, not only among physicians,
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but all people, we wonder
about the causes of depression
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and one of the big
factors there would be...
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what has led to depression?
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In other words, some bad
circumstance, or some bad event
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in one's life MAKING one sad.
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That's one thing...
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But a second point
which is raised very clearly
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in some cases where
there really isn't an event,
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or even circumstances that one
could say clearly would lead one
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to be depressed.
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...That in fact,
there is a basic outlook,
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some people might
say, "A bad attitude"
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that the person has.
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In other words, they
don't somehow seem to be able to
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orient themselves to confront
problems that occur in life,
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and, therefore,
enter into depression.
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So, that is a second way
of explaining depression...
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And there's really even a
third one that one could say,
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and this is one
that has come out a lot
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in medical circles in
recent years and that is
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...It is quite well known
now, that there are certain
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neurotransmitters in the brain
that have to do with emotions.
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What is a neurotransmitter?
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A neurotransmitter is
what one nerve will use
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at the end of its long
wire connection to another nerve
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to communicate
to that next nerve.
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It's the substance
that is poured out and then
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stimulates the next nerve.
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And one of these
neurotransmitters is serotonin
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which very directly relates
to people's state of mind.
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Poured out between these
2 nerves... That's right.
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That's right... the connection
there is called a "synapse"
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Well, one could question then...
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Is it just one of
these viewpoints that would
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explain the whole issue?
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Some people... one
easy way would be to say
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it's the bad circumstance
that a person encounters...
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But enough, I think has
been said, that shows that there
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are people where there
isn't a good explanation there
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And some people, I think this
can happen among physicians too
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Well, depression is just
a matter of the chemicals
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that you happen to have
predominating in your brain.
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And so then it
would sound like...
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Well, what can I do
about it other than take a drug
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that controls
the chemical release.
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I think that instead, we
need to be conscious of all
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3 of these factors.
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In any normal person, if
some terrible event happens
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in their life, I would
think it would be very strange
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if they weren't
set back for a while.
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But, the Lord has built
in mechanisms of handling
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these problems that occur.
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And, I don't know if
one should already jump
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to what things can we do.
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Yes, that would be good.
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Yes, what things can make
it so that we don't slip into
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negative thinking and
being in already and being
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depressed... what can we
do to bring ourselves out?
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Okay... well what you're saying
actually I think is a very
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important point and it's one
that I hadn't even written down
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And that is that we need
to direct our thoughts...
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How can you do that?
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I remember one time, mentioning
this is a physiology class and
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one of my little
teenage coed students said...
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"Dr. Thrash,
how can you do that?
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How can you
control your thinking?"
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So how do you do that?
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That's a very good question
and I think I stumbled and went
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in circles for quite
a time on that issue.
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I've since come
to the conclusion...
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In fact, I'm backed up by
some very good presentations
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by a psychiatrist
that we know well.
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One thing that
one CANNOT do is...
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you can't just say,
"I want to be happy"
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and automatically
change it directly by the will.
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You cannot, by the
will, in fact he shows this
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by neurologic diagrams...
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diagrams of the
nerve connections.
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We do not have a direct
connection from the will
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and from the judgementary
of the brain to the area
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where the emotions
are... the limbic system.
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But what we CAN do...
we can do what you said
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We can, in fact,
direct our thoughts.
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That doesn't
means that we say...
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"I have to be happy...
I have to be happy"... No
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We can start THINKING
about the right things
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And, maybe I'll
leave it at that.
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There are a number
of things, issues...
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Perhaps the best thing
would be certain TREMENDOUS
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promises in the Bible.
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Really tremendous
promises... Absolutely.
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What I'd like to go to is a
little more mundane a point...
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And that is, the
point of lighting.
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It's an interesting
thing that we humans
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are like the larks
and not like the owls.
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We do much
better in the daylight.
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Years ago... one never likes
to think oneself an old man,
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but, oh, it would be
more than 30 years ago...
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I taught school up in
Northern British Columbia
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and, great folks up there...
and way up in the north country
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a town called
Chetwynd which I think is over
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half the way to the Yukon and
Alaska from the American border.
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Through that first winter...
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actually, I was there
2 years, both winters...
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When you're far north,
the daylight is very short
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around Christmastime and
for a number of weeks around it.
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I was at that time teaching
school when we'd go to the
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schoolroom, it was dark.
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You would then get some light
during the middle of the day.
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But then, by the time I would
finish preparing some lessons,
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for the next day, it
was dark when I went home.
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And I wouldn't
say I was depressed,
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certainly not in
a clinical sense...
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But one sensed the
suppressive effect. Yes...
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And to me, the most amazing
thing was when spring came...
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as those days
gradually got longer.
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Walking to school and
hearing some birds singing...
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it was much more than I
had sensed in the south...
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and I enjoy the birds
singing at Uchee Pines...
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But it was like a whole
bird and the whole world changed
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into just the
sparkling sunlight... Yes.
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This has been well-noted
by doctors through the years
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in a very, one could say
almost a quantitative way,
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or a scientifically-demonstrated
way...
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that the amount of sunlight
affects one's state of mind
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and they call it,
"seasonal affective disorder"
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when it, in some cases,
especially the depression is
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directly related to this...
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And so, being UP in sunlight,
getting OUT in the sunlight
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really makes a
positive effect on the emotions.
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The second point that one
could say, is that exercise
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definitely affects the
emotions in a positive way.
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Many of the listeners may
have heard of a runner's high.
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It's quite a real thing.
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Once a person... I'm
not talking about maybe
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the FIRST time of
doing unaccustomed exercise
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where it's hard grit and sweat.
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But as one gets
more accustomed to it,
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a prolonged exercise is actually
quite an enjoyable thing.
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And, you begin to have a
sense of wellbeing and I think
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that what's going on is
that the heavy physical stress
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actually somehow... our
mind is completely occupied with
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confronting this physical stress
and all the mental stresses
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tend to drift into
insignificance by comparison.
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I have a couple of
other points jotted down...
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All right, very
good... please take the time.
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A third point that I have,
I don't know if it would be
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controversial... it's
one that I've talked about
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in this group of things about
depression... and it's prayer.
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It wouldn't be
controversial with me... Okay.
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The way I look at
this... is that in prayer,
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I'm not saying to be talking
to the Lord and saying...
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"I'm feeling just fine. "
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I think that, in fact, we
can be like the Psalms do...
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Be quite open with the
Lord... how one is feeling.
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But with the Lord,
rather than other people... Yes.
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Instead of talking to other
people about all the burdens
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and how hard it
is... Open up before God
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what one sees as what
one is really going through
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and express it clearly and
then lay hold of what God has
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promised and leave it
with Him which is what
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He invites us to do... and that
can make quite a difference.
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Yes, it's this point
that's our biggest problem...
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and that leaving it
with Him... It's true.
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Because we have such a
great propensity as human beings
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to want to do it ourselves...
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We want to do our
whole salvation ourselves.
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And, of course,
this we cannot do.
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We are dependent on
the Savior that has been
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provided for us.
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There's such a tendency in
us humans to feel we HAVE to
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do something about it...
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...even when the Lord has said
"Cast all your burdens on Him"
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we need to help
the Lord with it...
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Well, no... He doesn't
want us to be trying to help Him
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with those
burdens... leave them with Him
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Another point that I think...
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Now I'm not a psychiatrist,
but I've just seen...
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You're doing pretty well so far.
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I can just talk from my
experience of having seen
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so many patients
at Uchee Pines...
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Not from what I've done,
but from what many of the staff
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are doing all the time...
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What we call "LC's"
the Lifestyle counselors
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who actually do a
lot more than counseling.
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And the one point I
want to make here is...
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the massage that's done...
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What a relief those
people get from that.
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And it doesn't have to
be a BIG whole body massage.
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I think that one can get a lot
of relief with a simple massage
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that we call a "chair
massage" ... 10 minutes of just
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In fact the muscles that
often tighten up when a person
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is anxious or depressed are
these neck and shoulder muscles
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perhaps more than
anywhere else in the body...
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And a little massage
like that will just do SO much
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And for those of you that
can't think of any particular
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techniques, or don't have
any training or techniques,
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really, it's so simple.
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If you just put your
hands on the person's neck,
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and start doing some pushing.
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In fact, that's the beginning
of this chair massage. Yes.
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It can make a real difference.
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Yes, it's just
rubbing, rubbing the skin...
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Well, it's going to be
deeper into the muscles.
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And the soft tissues...
They ALL respond. That's right.
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Even the fat
responds to the touch...
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Because the nerves are full...
are throughout all this area.
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And they sense the
touch and they respond to it.
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Those, Dr. Agatha, were
the 4 things I put together.
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Very good... But I went over
this what I have just said with
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this same psychiatrist
that I value so much...
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And he added a couple of points.
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Very good... Should I mention
those? Yes, would you please.
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He made, what I think is
REALLY a crucial addition...
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He said, "Depressed
people need to become regular
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in their schedules. " Yes...
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They shouldn't be
burning the midnight oil.
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They need to have a
set time for going to bed.
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A set time for getting up.
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And even a set time for a number
of activities during the day.
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And so, my little
armchair psychiatry thing needs
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to be added with this from
a professional psychiatrist...
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I think a crucial
point... That's one.
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One other point that is
actually in inspired writing...
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has to do with...
There is nothing to get over
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depression that
quite equals when my focus,
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instead of being
turned on myself,
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is turned out to
someone else that's in need.
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So, if you can help
the depressed person
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to find someone that's
in either a worse situation,
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or a bad situation, and
have him get involved in doing
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something for this
other individual...
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...it's a tremendous relief to
this over-focusing on oneself.
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Yes indeed, it is...
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And I appreciate
these remarks very much.
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And, as you can see,
there is much that we can do...
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Number 1, to avoid
getting into a pattern of
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negative thinking.
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And then, if we're already in
the pattern of negative thinking
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...there is much that we can do
to bring ourselves out of that.
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Now, we have talked about some
of the things involved in the
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emotional and mental
things having to do with
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negative thinking
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And I have now, Don Miller.
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Don Miller is a Lifestyle
Counselor at Uchee Pines
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And Don Miller, you have
something important to tell us.
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I always hope that I
have something important
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to tell people
and important to say
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But, I guess one of the
most important things I can do
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right now to sort of progress
this discussion on depression
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is to do one of the
most important treatments
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that you can
do... It costs no money.
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And it's been shown in
recent studies to be effective.
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"Do this... Or
you can do this...
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Any type of a smile, even
a forced smile has been shown
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to release the brain
chemical called "endorphins"
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which is another term
for or we have another term
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for it called
"the happy hormones"
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We find that if we
just would smile more,
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we would have a
tendency to lift our spirits.
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There's a law of
our being called...
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"The law of
reciprocal influence"
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It's a biblical law.
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The Bible says, "As a man
thinketh in his heart, so is he"
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You know, if I were a research
biologist, or neurobiologist,
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I would like to go to the
Bible and take some of these
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statements like... "As a man
thinketh in his heart, so is he"
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and set about to prove it
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because one think I
would know for sure...
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the premise would be true.
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I would know that if a
person expresses happy things,
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it will raise his spirits.
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And so, as we express
happy things by our voice,
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we are going to
raise our spirits...
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But, on the
other side of the coin,
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we get up in the
morning... "I don't feel good"
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And you walk downstairs
and you tell your spouse
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or someone in your
family, "I don't feel good"
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and you snap at the dog and
you do all these terrible things
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All it will do for you is
lower your state of depression
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that you're getting into
until you are going to really
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hit rock bottom.
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So the body wants to lift
you up and you can do that by
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just expressing positive things.
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Dr. Horsley was talking
about something as simple
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as a chair massage.
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And in a recent
study that I read,
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...is the way you can get
an old person who is agitated
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or irritated, or
upset... to calm down is to
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give them a
simple hand massage...
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Just grabbing hold of
their hand and giving them
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a hand massage has been
shown to calm the spirits
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and make them feel better.
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Another thing
you can use is music.
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And that's been shown biblically
when old King Saul would
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get upset...
they'd call in David
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and he would play some
nice music on his harp.
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You know, we're not talking
about the music you'd hear today
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It was a calming music
which would calm the spirits.
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Now in the brain, we've got
lots of chemicals going on and
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lots of electricity
popping and going on,
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but we have some things called,
sort of like opiate receptors
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...some little receptors on
our nerve cells that receive
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opiates and for a long time,
they wondered why in the world
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does the body have a receptor
for the juice of a poppy flower
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Until they started discovering
in the brain, some encephalins
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which basically
means "in the head"
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and what they found
was on the spinal column,
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there would be a band
that had a whole lot of these
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receptors for these opiates.
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There was also a part of the
brain that had a whole lot of
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receptors for these opiates.
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And they wondered why in
the world were these there...
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Well then they found out about
these encephalins which are
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helping... as we have a pain
sensation, they go to that area
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and slow down the transmission;
therefore, lessening the pain.
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and these things are produced by
deep breathing, by exercising,
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And by the very exercise of a
happy experience in our minds.
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And so, I guess if I had
anything important to say,
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Dr. Thrash, it
would be the fact that...
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As we express happy things,
we will have a brain chemistry
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reaction in our bodies
that are going to make us
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happy in the long run.
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Yes... I especially like
that thing of your saying that a
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smile will raise
the level of the mood...
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And, of course, we probably
all know that that is true.
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If we put a smile on the
face, we are very likely to let
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the mood come along behind that.
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Of course, sometimes
that smile is quite empty...
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But we want to communicate
with our Heavenly Father who
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GIVES US the peace, the joy,
the pleasure that we can get
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from those things
which He has made.
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Now I have a paper
here about adolescents who
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are diabetic and what
their having diabetes does
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to their moods.
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And we know that the
blood sugars go up and down
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in diabetes and because
of these wide swings in the
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blood sugars, we have
also swings in the mood of
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people who have diabetes.
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Now the way that we
eat can influence the way
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that we think quite a lot.
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There are some foods that have,
naturally, a sort of calming
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effect on the mind.
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There are also some foods that
have a sort of a stimulatory
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effect on the mind.
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There are some foods
that give us such a jolt
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of stimulation that
we may actually increase
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the finger tremor and we
may have other difficulties
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that are brought on
simply by those foods,
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or by those drinks.
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Now I have asked one of
my colleagues at Uchee Pines
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to show you some of the
foods that can be useful
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in helping people to have
calmness and peaceful thoughts.
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This is Lidia Seda, who is
one of our Lifestyle Counselors
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at Uchee Pines and she
and I travel together at times
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And I know that you have
something that's going to
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taste good and now I
see that it looks good.
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Tell us about that.
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Well what I have here is
what's called baked oatmeal...
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And the wonderful thing about
oats is that, well first of all,
00:22:46.64\00:22:50.07
they're easily digested.
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Number 2, they can act as a mild
laxative for those that may be
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suffering from constipation...
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But also that
they're high in melatonin.
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And they have found that
individuals who are depressed
00:22:59.80\00:23:04.18
will suffer sleep deprivation.
00:23:04.21\00:23:06.85
What happens is there's a
hormone that's produced when
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individuals are
depressed called CRH.
00:23:09.66\00:23:12.72
And that hormone would actually
decrease melatonin production.
00:23:12.75\00:23:16.74
And we know, Dr. Thrash,
that when someone's depressed,
00:23:16.77\00:23:21.09
they probably
won't sleep as well,
00:23:21.12\00:23:23.76
and when someone
doesn't sleep as well,
00:23:23.79\00:23:25.44
they can easily get depressed.
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Yes, that's true.
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So you have an interesting
back and forth combination
00:23:28.59\00:23:32.74
with the two.
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Something else that happens
or that we need to keep in mind
00:23:33.89\00:23:37.58
is that another hormone that is
needed for melatonin production
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is tryptophan.
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Tryptophan though, can
have some competitors...
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And those competitors
are found in whole milk,
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steak and chicken breasts.
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There are certain types of
amino acids, 5 to be exact,
00:23:55.37\00:24:00.26
that will compete with
tryptophan and, as I mentioned,
00:24:00.29\00:24:03.60
tryptophan is necessary
for melatonin production.
00:24:03.63\00:24:06.32
So when we have high
amounts of these amino acids,
00:24:06.35\00:24:09.65
and less tryptophan.
00:24:09.68\00:24:11.23
Dr. Agatha Thrash, we
will also have a problem with
00:24:11.26\00:24:14.83
sleep and melatonin production
as well... Yes, that's true.
00:24:14.86\00:24:18.15
And, something else we
need to keep in mind is that the
00:24:18.18\00:24:20.80
frontal lobe needs
to be well-cared for.
00:24:20.83\00:24:23.45
They have found that individuals
who have poor frontal lobe
00:24:23.48\00:24:27.05
function, will have a
tendency to be more depressed.
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And, what we need to do...
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There are various things we
can do, but one important habit
00:24:32.75\00:24:36.59
that we can attain
to is good nutrition.
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Eating foods that are
complex carbohydrates and not
00:24:40.23\00:24:45.01
refined
carbohydrates would be excellent
00:24:45.02\00:24:47.78
in nourishing the frontal lobe.
00:24:47.81\00:24:49.49
Now you may ask... "But why?"
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Well, what happens is when
we eat foods that are refined,
00:24:51.19\00:24:55.84
that the body then
takes in and sugar is released
00:24:55.87\00:25:01.48
at much quicker
and higher levels,
00:25:01.51\00:25:04.25
the pancreas releases insulin to
take care of those high levels
00:25:04.33\00:25:08.01
of glucose which has
been converted from sugar,
00:25:08.04\00:25:12.43
or from the carbohydrates.
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And, what happens then
is that there is a drop
00:25:15.20\00:25:19.88
in sugar in the bloodstream,
or glucose in the bloodstream.
00:25:19.91\00:25:23.86
And the frontal lobe
needs minute by minute
00:25:23.89\00:25:27.04
sugar to help
sustain it to nourish it.
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And again, I said the
frontal lobe is one aspect
00:25:30.58\00:25:33.71
that needs to be cared
for, for there we can have
00:25:33.74\00:25:37.05
discernment,
well-being, knowledge...
00:25:37.08\00:25:40.30
so, if we have a
good, healthy frontal lobe,
00:25:40.33\00:25:43.65
we can prevent
depression as well.
00:25:43.68\00:25:46.92
And having complex
carbohydrates like the oats,
00:25:46.95\00:25:50.43
like the baked oatmeal
that we have here can help
00:25:50.46\00:25:54.68
with that as well.
00:25:54.71\00:25:55.85
I'm very eager to hear
you talk about it because it
00:25:55.88\00:25:59.26
smells WONDERFUL!
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Well, it's easily
made, VERY easily made...
00:26:00.29\00:26:03.40
that's one of the reasons
why I like this recipe SO much.
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The basic ingredients are:
00:26:06.85\00:26:07.82
And basically what you do is
that you mix it all together.
00:26:30.19\00:26:34.13
You layer the
bottom with dates...
00:26:35.17\00:26:36.83
then with whatever fruit
you may like... perhaps bananas.
00:26:36.86\00:26:40.34
Then you put your
oats in. You add your milk.
00:26:40.37\00:26:43.37
Or, if you like,
you can use water.
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And when I say "milk"
I mean soymilk of course.
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They have also found that
tryptophan is found in soy.
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Oh yes... and we want the
tryptophan to help with the
00:26:53.76\00:26:57.75
melatonin production.
00:26:58.14\00:26:59.27
So putting this in the
baked oatmeal will also help
00:26:59.28\00:27:03.31
with the tryptophan production.
00:27:03.34\00:27:05.52
But if you don't want to use
the soymilk, you can use water
00:27:05.55\00:27:08.63
and that will work just as well.
00:27:08.64\00:27:11.67
So this is what we can do
to help keep us from getting
00:27:11.70\00:27:16.15
depressed.
00:27:16.18\00:27:17.51
My... this looks so good.
00:27:17.54\00:27:19.34
I wish it were mealtime, I would
ask you if I could have this!
00:27:19.37\00:27:22.46
Well, Dr. Agatha, we might be
able to have it some other time.
00:27:22.49\00:27:26.30
Thank you so much... I
really appreciate this.
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It's a beautiful display
of just what the Lord has
00:27:29.01\00:27:33.23
made for us... that can be used
to help us to function better.
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So, as we have looked at these
things as we have discussed
00:27:37.99\00:27:42.02
a few of the things that
have to do with the whole topic
00:27:42.05\00:27:45.33
of negative thinking, we
hope that you will remember
00:27:45.36\00:27:48.49
the Bible's admonition
that a merry heart doeth good
00:27:48.52\00:27:52.56
like a medicine.
00:27:52.57\00:27:53.67
So may you have
that as your experience.
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