Participants: Agatha Thrash, Don Miller
Series Code: HYTH
Program Code: HYTH000154
00:01 Hello, I'm Agatha Thrash, a staff physician from
00:04 Uchee Pines Institute. 00:06 We find people at Uchee Pines who come there for all 00:09 manner of diseases and finally we may make the diagnosis that 00:14 your problem is due to your stresses. 00:16 If you'd like to hear a program on that, 00:18 for the next half an hour, we'll be discussing some 00:21 things about stress. 00:22 We hope you will join us. 00:44 Welcome to "Help Yourself to Health" 00:47 with Dr. Agatha Thrash of Uchee Pines Institute. 00:50 And now, here's your host Dr. Thrash 00:55 It may come as a bit of a surprise to you that stress 00:58 is a frequent cause of ill health. 01:02 In fact, very serious disease can be caused by stress... 01:07 because stress adversely affects many of our body systems. 01:11 And I have with me one of my cohorts at Uchee Pines, 01:17 Don Miller 01:18 And Don Miller is a health educator and one of our 01:24 speakers in many of our seminars and 01:27 Don Miller will start the ball rolling with some things about 01:30 stress and how it impacts the health... Don Miller 01:33 Thank you, Dr. Thrash. 01:34 You know, evolutionists figure that... Hmm... where did stress 01:39 come from... Why do we have stress? 01:40 Well, I know why we have it. 01:42 Back when they had to hunt those big, nasty monsters 01:44 and big dinosaurs and had to go out there and live by their 01:48 wits and by their muscles. 01:49 They had to have the special burst of different hormones 01:53 through their body to get them to survive. 01:55 And now it's just a vestige of evolution and 01:58 why we have it nowadays. 02:00 I don't agree with that... 02:01 I believe that stress and the hormones... 02:05 and all these things involved in the stress process 02:08 are again, like everything else, 02:10 a gift of God to be used in the right way. 02:12 Stress is a good thing... in the right situation. 02:16 The trick about stress is... how do you manage your stress? 02:20 Now let's just look at the stress situation, or the 02:23 stress mechanism. 02:25 What causes stress? 02:26 Well it can be something physical... 02:28 It can be something environmental... 02:30 It can be something chemical... 02:32 It can be a number of different things that causes 02:35 a stress response. 02:37 Basically, it's going to be something that you sense 02:39 9 times out of 10... 02:41 Some central input comes in... you see the Rottweiler... 02:45 you smell the smoke in your basement... 02:47 you see the flickering blue lights in the car behind you... 02:51 you see your boss coming down the hallway and you are 02:54 at the drinking fountain when you're not supposed to be. 02:56 Whatever it is, these things are stressors. 02:59 How are you going to deal? 03:00 But what happens when you get this input? 03:03 Well first of all, the cortex of the brain 03:06 receives the information, it processes it... 03:10 and it sends it to the amygdala 03:11 The amygdala again does some processing 03:14 and it sends along and activates the hypothalamus 03:17 and the hypothalamus says... Hmm... 03:19 It sends the message down to the adrenal medulla 03:23 and it says, "We need now some adrenalin. " 03:26 And so now... PFUUU! We've got some adrenalin in our system. 03:29 At the same time, the pituitary is sending a message down 03:33 to the adrenal cortex and it's sending out some other hormones. 03:37 Now what do these hormones do? 03:38 Well, the adrenalin is going to increase your heart rate... 03:44 And it's going to increase your glucose. 03:46 Now, the glucose goes up to give you more muscle strength. 03:49 The heart rate goes up to get that glucose... 03:52 that's now in the blood, all the way throughout the system. 03:55 The pituitary is sending its message down to the adrenals 04:00 to send out some hormones that are going to keep these things 04:03 up at the right levels, and at the same time, 04:05 increase your respiration, do some dilation of your 04:09 blood vessels... the dilation of your eyes, 04:12 your ears are more keen... 04:13 You stop digestion. You stop elimination. 04:17 Everything is ready for... perhaps we can use 04:20 the "fight or flight" mode of the body 04:23 which is a good thing in the right situation. 04:26 When the Rottweiler comes, you need to know 04:29 what to do in that situation. 04:32 Are you going to run? 04:33 Are you going to fight the thing? 04:34 But you need some special equipment... 04:36 and that's what it's given to us for. 04:38 The same type of stress can come to us though 04:42 when we're sitting in traffic 04:44 trying to get to the airport... 04:46 and we're almost late and the traffic stopped... 04:49 we're going to miss our flight. 04:50 Same type of stress. 04:51 Same hormones are pouring into the system. 04:54 Your heart rate has gone up, 04:55 you're a little bit flushed, 04:57 you're breathing a little bit heavier, 04:58 you're starting to worry. 04:59 Now what do you do? 05:01 If you do not take care of that stress... 05:03 People who get caught into this chronic stress situation 05:07 ...always stressed out and those are really the type A 05:10 type of people... they have some serious problems 05:13 with their health. 05:14 We need, at those times, to learn how to 05:17 release the stress. 05:18 There is one saying I want you to remember... 05:20 Remember this one... 05:22 "EXERCISE NEUTRALIZES STRESS." 05:25 When you are in a stressful situation, 05:27 somehow do some exercising. 05:30 If you are stuck in your car, in traffic, 05:33 stop and go... you can't even get out and walk around your car 05:35 Start doing some hand exercises, doing some isometric exercises 05:39 Even singing and yelling will help you release some of the 05:43 steam from your system... it's now getting overcooked 05:47 and you're getting into a sick situation. 05:49 We need to learn how to RELEASE the stress. 05:53 God has given us this ability to have the stressful situation 05:57 to meet stressful circumstances. 06:01 We use this stress response when we are getting ready 06:05 to do something very important... 06:07 a particular performance, an athletic event, 06:10 what ever it is, we need this extra burst of these hormones 06:16 and the sensitivity to our environment 06:18 to do our very best job. 06:20 And so, I'm thankful for the gift that God has given us 06:23 in the stress response... 06:27 But, again, it's how we deal with the stress, Dr. Thrash, 06:30 and most people don't deal with it very well. 06:33 That is quite true. 06:34 Now, when we are under stress, 06:37 our mucosal surfaces... in fact all of our epithelial 06:41 surfaces all through the body... 06:43 those on the skin, those in the gastrointestinal tract, 06:47 those in the sinuses and down through the lungs. 06:52 All of these are adversely affected by stress. 06:56 Therefore, when we are under special stress, 06:59 we can have some kind of affliction in those areas. 07:02 I remember one time, a young man we had a Uchee Pines, 07:07 who was one of our drivers. 07:08 He was a very sensitive young man but he was also 07:12 a young man who was a bit clumsy and often was 07:15 doing things wrong. 07:17 So one of his supervisors, one time, just made a list 07:20 of everything that he was doing wrong... 07:21 Simply wrote it down and there were 23 items on the list. 07:27 So, I knew that this was going on and I could hear 07:31 a very quiet young man, listening to this laundry list 07:37 of all of his failings. 07:38 The very next day this young man who had not been sick 07:42 in a long time, came down with a bad case of a cold. 07:45 Now that's just one instance... 07:48 That had to do with the reduction in the defense 07:51 mechanisms of the upper respiratory tract. 07:54 But also, in other mucosal surfaces, 07:57 we have a reduction in T cells... 08:00 a reduction in the defense mechanisms that 08:05 guard us and make a barrier against the entry of 08:10 various germs or foreign agents like pollens or 08:15 other allergens. 08:16 And so another of our workers at Uchee Pines, 08:20 a man who is in a very stressful job... he is one of our 08:25 maintenance engineers... 08:26 And this young man sometimes has a breakdown of his stomach 08:32 mucosa. 08:34 This epithelial surface that makes a barrier against 08:38 many things... 08:39 Of course when we swallow things, 08:40 right there at the entry, through the mucosa of the 08:47 stomach, that goes from the stomach into bloodstream... 08:50 right there, there are barriers that keep things out 08:54 and that's the important function of this mucosa... 08:58 ...is to keep things out. 08:59 We might think that the mucosal surfaces of the 09:04 gastrointestinal tract are just waiting to receive everything 09:08 But that isn't true, there are many things 09:09 that they keep out. 09:10 Or, they keep out MOST everything... 09:13 Such as too much iron. 09:15 But, let's take the man who is in the stressful position 09:19 at Uchee Pines, whose stomach fails under his stresses. 09:24 What happens with him is that because of the weakening 09:27 of the immune system in the stomach lining, 09:30 he gets an infection called, "H. pylori" 09:34 Now H. pylori, as some of you will know, 09:37 is a germ associated with peptic ulcers. 09:41 When I was in medical school, there was one thing that 09:43 we knew for certain and that is that peptic ulcers 09:47 were not caused by a germ. 09:48 The germs we found there, we just KNEW that they were 09:52 secondary invaders. 09:53 But now, 50 years later, we understand that... 09:56 Yes, a germ is one of the CAUSES, one of the known 10:01 causes of peptic ulcer. 10:02 And the reason that it attacks the stomach under stress, 10:05 is that there is a weakening of the defense mechanism 10:09 We always felt that because of the stress, 10:12 it made us over-produce hydrochloric acid and 10:17 pepsin and things of this nature... 10:19 so that we were more likely to gnaw the inside of our 10:23 stomach lining with these very powerful chemicals. 10:26 But now we know that it is a reduction in the immune system 10:30 functioning right at the barrier and that allows the 10:33 germ to penetrate and colonize the lining of the stomach. 10:40 Now there are things that we can do... 10:42 Of course, we can treat the stress... that is true... 10:44 and we should but ALSO, we can give the person a variety 10:49 of simple remedies that can be helpful in this stress-related 10:55 disease. 10:56 One of those is a tranquilizer... 10:58 and one of the tranquilizer herbs such as catnip 11:01 or skullcap... those are very good... 11:04 mint tea and chamomile... these are all mild sedative herbs 11:10 And will often, with the continued use of them, 11:13 be just sufficient to give the person a tranquil feeling 11:17 when they do a very stressful job. 11:19 Another thing is the antibacterial herbs. 11:23 There are a number of them... Garlic is a good one. 11:25 Grapefruit seed extract is an extremely good one. 11:28 And Echinacea and goldenseal, these are also very good ones. 11:33 You will find that Mastic gum is very good 11:36 for the H. pylori germ. 11:39 Many of these can be obtained from health food stores 11:42 with very little effort. 11:45 And we recommend that you do try to get them there. 11:48 Now other mucosal surfaces that can be affected when a person 11:53 is under stress, are all of those mucosal surfaces 11:57 in the genitourinary tract... the GU tract, 12:02 that would be vaginal surfaces, ureteral and urethral and 12:07 bladder surfaces... 12:08 All of these surfaces are also affected by stress. 12:11 And so, women are more prone to stress-related problems 12:17 than men are as a general rule. 12:19 And especially is that so in the bladder. 12:21 So cold feet, which the body perceives as a stress, 12:26 a stressor... the cold feet will cause a reduction 12:32 in blood flow and also a reduction in the protective 12:36 white blood cells that make a barrier against the penetration 12:40 of any kind of germ from the outside, and 12:43 because of that, a woman may come down with cystitis... 12:46 because of having cold feet or habitually cold feet. 12:51 Now viruses can also invade our premises easier when 12:57 we are under stress... such as cold stress. 13:00 And so, we mentioned about the young man who got a cold, 13:05 but don't forget that cancer is also caused by a virus. 13:09 The virus of breast cancer may be triggered, 13:15 or at least assisted in getting a toehold in the breast by 13:21 the chilling of the extremities. 13:24 We know that in habitually chilled women, 13:28 they tend to have more breast cancer, at least in cold 13:33 climates... there is more breast cancer than in warmer climates 13:37 where the extremities are not habitually chilled. 13:40 So, I hope that this little discussion about chilling 13:43 and about stress on the mucosal surfaces can be helpful 13:48 to you to know how to protect yourself in this instance from 13:52 these kinds of afflictions. 13:55 And now, Don Miller will have another aspect of stress 13:59 to talk with you about. 14:00 Okay, Dr. Thrash, I mentioned the term, "type A personalities" 14:05 I'm not into typing people. 14:07 I don't like all this phlegmatic and choleric 14:10 and all these things... 14:11 But we do have people who are a little bit more type A... 14:14 as you realize these are the driven type of people 14:16 ...the perfectionist type of people 14:18 ...everything has to be just so. 14:20 Then you've got the type B type of people that 14:22 are sort of laid back... let it flow, let it go... 14:25 Basically the type A type of a personality 14:28 is the type of a person who is a stress magnet. 14:32 They make their own stresses. 14:34 Now when I say, "make their own stresses," 14:37 again I have to stress.. that STRESSES are out there. 14:41 It's how we relate to... receive and process the stressor 14:48 I know that some people when they get... 14:50 I used to be type A type of a person... 14:53 Let me mention one situation I was in that I have tried 14:57 very much to get away from... 14:58 and I think the Lord has given me the great victory here 15:00 I had taken someone to the airport in Atlanta... 15:03 and I've always been a perfectionist... 15:06 On the way home from the airport, 15:07 and I had driven this road dozens and dozens of times 15:10 I've lived in Atlanta. 15:11 I've been at Uchee Pines for a number of years... 15:14 Instead of going down I-85, I took I-285 going north. 15:19 And I really flagellated myself! 15:22 I said, "Why did you do this stupid thing?" 15:25 You know... this type A thing... getting tense, 15:27 ...heart rate going up... breathing deeper... 15:30 I'm sure all kinds of stress things were going through 15:32 my body... 15:33 But then the thought came to me... 15:36 to ask the Lord... 15:37 "Lord, you know I know better than this... 15:40 There's a purpose for this just happening. 15:43 I want you to... Please... I know that some things 15:46 we won't understand until we get to heaven, 15:49 but maybe once in a while, let us find out down here 15:52 why we make these really BIG mistakes and they were needless" 15:57 And, as soon as I started talking to the Lord about this 16:00 thing, I didn't have anymore stress. 16:02 I got off the first exit, came back on the other side, 16:06 came down and as soon as I was getting back on I-85, 16:09 someone was letting out a hitchhiker 16:11 on the side of the road... 16:12 And the Lord told me... "That's why you did that. " 16:16 Well... Praise the Lord. 16:18 And so, I picked up the hitchhiker 16:20 and I realized for my next 1-1/2 hours, driving with 16:23 this young man, why the Lord had me do this. 16:25 And so when you get into a stressful situation, 16:28 the best way to deal with it is to ask the Lord... 16:31 "Why is this thing happening. " 16:34 What in my character needs developing? 16:36 What in my life needs changing? 16:37 What do I have to learn about ME to make me a better person? 16:41 And now I've learned, it doesn't matter to me... 16:44 I'll go to the airport, and they'll tell me... 16:47 another real quick... if I can Dr. Thrash... 16:50 I've got a quick situation... 16:52 I was in the airport in Munich a few years ago, 16:55 and they told me the plane was overbooked, I didn't have a seat 16:59 And, would I mind waiting... 17:00 And I said, "Well, I'd really like to go now, 17:03 I've been here for 5 weeks. 17:04 They said, "Well, we'll give you one of the last seats 17:06 but, if we need it, can we have it? 17:09 I said, "Sure, if you need it, you can have it. " 17:11 So they gave me the seat 23-B 17:13 but it turned out, they did not need my seat. 17:17 I was happy. I was going home... 17:19 So I went and I sat down in my seat 23-B, 17:21 strapped myself in and everything was going fine 17:25 and pretty soon, another man came up the aisle... 17:28 and he looked at me and said, "You're in my SEAT." 17:29 And I looked at my little ticket and I said, 17:32 "No sir, this is 23-B." 17:35 And he said, "I've got 23-B too. " 17:36 And he showed me his ticket and he turned around and 17:38 WOOOH... back up front! Type A person. 17:42 Pretty soon, here he comes back... 17:44 dragging the stewardess with him. 17:45 And the stewardess comes to me and she says, 17:47 "Sir, may I see your stub?" And I said, "Sure. " 17:49 And I handed her my stub and she looks at my stub 17:52 and she says... TO ME... "Sir, you'll have to leave. " 17:55 Now, I could have said... "NO WAY... I got here first, 17:58 this says 23-B... I'm not going anywhere. " 18:00 I said, "Okay, fine... Do I have to leave the airplane" 18:04 She said, "Just come with me. " 18:05 I said, "Okay. " 18:07 So I get my things and she walked out and into the 18:09 little in-between place... 18:11 When I finally got in there, she handed me my stub back. 18:14 She had crossed out 23-B and written 2-E. 18:18 You know where 2-E is? 18:21 I've WALKED through first class... 18:23 I was on a window, second row, first class... 18:27 for 11 hours from Munich to Atlanta. 18:29 Now if I'd gotten all stressed out too, 18:31 they probably would have gone ahead and given it 18:34 to the other guy but he made this stressor 18:37 his depressor. 18:38 It depressed him for the rest of the trip. 18:40 But if he knew... I was up there enjoying myself greatly. 18:44 So, how do you receive your stress? 18:46 Receive it sometimes as God's message that He says 18:50 "I'm getting ready to do something GOOD for you. " 18:53 Receive it correctly. 18:54 I look forward to these stressful situations. 18:57 Now I just want to sit back, type B... 18:59 If it goes bad, there's a reason for it. 19:02 And I know I've got lots of things left in my 19:04 character to be developed. 19:05 And if He needs to put me in a stressful situation, 19:07 "Lord, bring em on... just give me the grace to 19:11 not be creating them for myself but be dealing with them 19:15 with your grace. " 19:17 Dr. Thrash, that's the way I like to deal 19:18 with these stress things. 19:19 Ah yes... very good story. I appreciate that! 19:22 I once worked with a nurse in Louisville, Kentucky 19:25 who was a pediatric nurse and a very good one. 19:29 And one of the things that characterized her was 19:31 that she just fell in love with her little patients. 19:34 I remember one little fellow who had big blue eyes 19:38 and beautiful creamy skin... 19:42 and she just fell in love with him but he had leukemia. 19:46 So, we all knew that he was going to die. 19:48 And as his disease developed, she became more and more 19:52 concerned about him... 19:53 And finally when he died, he died in her arms 19:57 and she just almost fell to pieces. 20:01 The next day, she got a little infection of some kind 20:05 and within a week, she was in a full-blown infection 20:08 and continued to have that for over a month before 20:12 she could come back to work. 20:14 I had another associate, a psychiatric nurse... 20:18 She dealt with schizophrenic patients a lot 20:21 And she would private duty nurse some of the 20:23 schizophrenic patients. 20:24 And when they would really go sour in some way 20:28 and hallucinate or get very abusive toward her, 20:32 then she would come down with an infection. 20:35 And we find from studies that have been done 20:38 in many areas, that abusive situations or major losses 20:42 of some kind, can bring on an illness of some other kind. 20:46 Infectious illnesses are common but also a wide variety of other 20:51 illnesses... I mentioned the peptic ulcer. 20:53 There are also hernia situations and slip disk situations 20:58 and all sorts of skeletal problems that can occur 21:02 because of extreme stresses. 21:04 People meet stresses in different ways, 21:08 and, as Don Miller just told you, 21:10 if you learn to sort of roll with the stressor, 21:15 then you will find yourself to be much happier. 21:18 Learn to have a Christian attitude about your stresses. 21:21 One of the important stresses that occur in people's lives 21:25 is that of simple change. 21:26 Just as we heard about the seat change. 21:30 It's an annoyance always, when you had planned something 21:34 to go this way... 21:35 And all of a sudden you realize it is not going to go that way 21:38 ...there has been some interruption. 21:40 There has been some change of course. 21:42 And as you have these interruptions and 21:44 changes of course, 21:45 then you find that you're annoyed, or you can be annoyed. 21:52 But you need to have the very spirit of Christ 21:56 about the changes. 21:57 If you will read the life of Christ, 21:59 you will see that His life was a life of FORCED changes. 22:03 He would be speaking to His audience and 22:06 in would come the hecklers. 22:08 Or, up would come those who would glower over 22:11 their glasses, I suppose, at Him. 22:14 And yet, He steered a straight forward course, 22:17 or He received the interruptions with the grace that He has 22:21 taught us... that we may also have. 22:24 Now, as we think about the diseases that can come 22:27 to people because of their stressors, 22:30 we need to know that we cannot bear stresses 22:34 ourselves... we are not constructed by our 22:37 Divine Designer to bear stresses... 22:39 so we can put these stresses on Him... 22:42 "Father, I am Your child, this stressor is a 22:46 test for me. 22:47 I am not capable of bearing this stress alone. 22:51 And, therefore, I request that Your broad shoulders 22:56 carry this stress. " 22:57 And, I have never had it to fail me when I have had this 23:00 kind of stressor and this kind of relationship to it... 23:04 But that the Lord bore me over the stressor without any 23:08 difficulty at all. 23:10 He is capable of unraveling the most tangled situation. 23:14 And now, Don Miller is going to talk with you about 23:18 another aspect of stress. 23:19 Okay... I like to keep going back to situations in our 23:23 environment... situations in our lives that cause us 23:27 to thank the Lord for the stress response... 23:30 the response to a stressor. 23:32 I am the type that... 23:34 and this is a character flaw that I've got to still work on, 23:38 that if I'm driving somewhere, I'm going to get there, 23:42 I'm not going to stop... I'm going to keep on driving. 23:44 And sometimes, I have been driving along... 23:48 and got a little bit road-weary 23:50 and took one of those little micro-naps... 23:52 You've taken those yourself. 23:53 And it's one thing to wake up and you're still on the road... 23:55 But I remember one time, I was driving down the road, 23:58 and I had still a long way to go... I was by myself 24:00 late at night... I really was pushing. 24:03 And I had to get there... 24:04 and as I was driving down the road, I had one of those 24:07 little micro-naps and I ran off the road... 24:10 And I HIT something really rough on my tires 24:13 and it scared me SO bad, that was the stress response... 24:18 the feeling, the sight... all these things, 24:22 and I was wide awake the rest of the night. 24:24 I had no problem getting there. 24:26 And other situation... when I was in college. 24:29 I was driving from Georgetown, Kentucky to my college in 24:34 Campbellsville... late at night again 24:36 and I was tired and I got to this little town 24:39 and this time, I was going to stop. 24:42 And there was a filling station there... 24:43 this was outside of town, everything was closed. 24:45 And there was a road going this way and a road going this way... 24:48 and I pulled in and just stopped, put it in neutral, 24:52 and just put my head over the steering wheel... 24:55 sound asleep, instantly. 24:56 Car was still running, lights were on, 24:59 and I was basically lined up crossways on the road 25:02 before I got to the road, straight into a fence... 25:05 This is what I was looking at when I stopped. 25:08 I slept probably no more than a few moments because 25:11 micro-naps are very good for you... 25:13 But when I woke up, I had forgotten where I was, 25:17 anything about the situation, my car was running, 25:19 and all I could see was a FENCE in front of me. 25:22 It gave me that adrenal response. 25:27 It scared me SO BAD, 25:29 I couldn't sleep once I got back to college... an hour later. 25:32 That really got everything going in my body. 25:35 And so these are GOOD responses, 25:38 but then again, I've mentioned before and it bears 25:41 mentioning again... 25:42 When you are in that stressful situation that you cannot change 25:46 and it's a stressful situation brought on by 25:48 a deadline, brought on by your boss, 25:51 brought on by... whatever it is in your environment 25:54 that you cannot change and you can't run from it 25:57 ...somehow in your experience, 25:58 you have to release that stress. 26:03 And the best way is let your muscles use up that extra 26:08 glucose. 26:09 Let your muscles use up that extra heart rate. 26:12 Just by doing some exercises where you are, 26:15 if you can, just get up and walk around very quickly 26:17 Take some deep breaths and surrender the situation 26:21 to the Lord realizing that good will come out of this thing 26:24 It's amazing, these stress responses... 26:28 the adrenalin and all the stress hormones, 26:32 they only last a short time in your system... 26:35 in working the really peak activity. 26:38 Use them up as fast as possible. 26:40 As you are letting your mind get out of the stressful 26:44 situation and it will not do you the large harm that it WILL do 26:49 if you do not learn to deal with it correctly... Dr. Thrash. 26:52 There's another area that I would like to touch on 26:54 in dealing with stress and that's stress in babies. 26:58 I'm sure that we don't think about the fact that babies 27:01 can be under quite a lot of stress. 27:03 They are born into a foreign environment. 27:06 They are in the nursery with foreign hands and foreign voices 27:10 that they've never heard before. 27:12 And when they're with their parents, 27:14 whose voices they do recognize, 27:16 they are often with other people whom they don't recognize. 27:21 And then lights are flashing to take photographs and 27:24 all sorts of nurses are doing funny things to them that 27:29 they don't understand... 27:30 And babies can develop first class stress. 27:34 And when they're in the hospital is the time 27:36 when we need to protect our babies from the stresses 27:40 that can give them a bad start in life. 27:44 And so from infancy to old age, we need to be constantly 27:49 aware of the fact that God is trying to protect us 27:53 from the serious 27:54 stresses of life. |
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