What really happens when we die? 00:00:09.04\00:00:10.97 Do we go up? Do we go down? 00:00:11.01\00:00:12.61 Do we come back around? 00:00:12.64\00:00:14.18 What does the Bible really say? 00:00:14.21\00:00:16.34 You'll find out on His Voice Today. 00:00:16.38\00:00:19.31 Welcome to another His Voice Today 00:00:19.35\00:00:24.72 with Steve Wohlberg. 00:00:24.75\00:00:28.09 Welcome to solving the mystery of death, Part 1. 00:00:28.12\00:00:33.96 Once upon a time there was a young boy 00:00:34.00\00:00:35.63 and he was walking in a cemetery looking at tombstones. 00:00:35.66\00:00:39.40 I don't know if you've ever done that, 00:00:39.43\00:00:41.27 I've done that many times... 00:00:41.30\00:00:43.10 it's very interesting to see 00:00:43.17\00:00:44.91 what people have inscribed upon their stone. 00:00:44.94\00:00:47.44 Well, as this little boy was walking along, 00:00:47.48\00:00:50.15 he saw one stone that really struck his eye 00:00:50.18\00:00:53.15 and it was the stone by the name of Paul Adams. 00:00:53.18\00:00:56.08 He lived from 1902 to 1964, how he died... I have no idea 00:00:56.12\00:01:01.89 but this is what this man had written on his stone, 00:01:01.92\00:01:04.13 he said, "Stop my friend... as you go by 00:01:04.16\00:01:08.10 as you are now... so once was I... 00:01:08.13\00:01:10.77 as I am now... you soon shall be... 00:01:10.80\00:01:13.84 so prepare yourself to follow me. " 00:01:13.87\00:01:16.84 Well, this young boy was quite a thinker... 00:01:16.87\00:01:20.64 and he thought about what was written on that stone 00:01:20.68\00:01:24.01 and he took out an orange marker 00:01:24.05\00:01:26.61 and he wrote these words on the stone, 00:01:26.65\00:01:29.18 he wrote, "To follow you... I am not content 00:01:29.22\00:01:32.95 until I know just where you went. " 00:01:32.99\00:01:36.96 Pretty smart boy... well, where did Paul Adams go? 00:01:36.99\00:01:42.50 Where does anybody go after they die, 00:01:42.53\00:01:45.13 this is probably one of the most emotional, 00:01:45.17\00:01:47.34 controversial and important question 00:01:47.37\00:01:50.27 that every human being asks themselves 00:01:50.31\00:01:53.17 at some point in their life 00:01:53.21\00:01:55.18 and there are a lot of different views... 00:01:55.21\00:01:56.88 in the religious world and the secular world 00:01:56.91\00:01:58.95 around the world... 00:01:59.01\00:02:00.35 some believe you go up, some believe you go down, 00:02:00.38\00:02:03.72 some believe you come back around, 00:02:03.75\00:02:05.92 depending upon how you live, 00:02:05.95\00:02:07.92 maybe you could be reincarnated as an elephant or as a mouse... 00:02:07.96\00:02:11.73 some believe you enter the spirit world 00:02:11.76\00:02:14.86 and some believe you basically don't go anywhere... 00:02:14.93\00:02:17.77 you're just dead and that's it. 00:02:17.80\00:02:20.27 To make it really simple, there are three basic views 00:02:20.30\00:02:24.11 concerning what happens after you die, 00:02:24.14\00:02:26.57 the first view is the Atheist view, 00:02:26.61\00:02:28.98 that basically... you're gone, 00:02:29.01\00:02:30.35 that's it, there's no heaven, there's no hell, 00:02:30.38\00:02:32.71 there's no future, there's just nothing, 00:02:32.75\00:02:35.38 eternal darkness, so that's one view, 00:02:35.42\00:02:37.49 I do not subscribe to that view... 00:02:37.52\00:02:39.92 the second view is what we could call 00:02:39.95\00:02:42.29 "the immortal soul idea" 00:02:42.32\00:02:44.03 and that is the idea that inside of every body, physical body... 00:02:44.06\00:02:48.10 there is an immortal substance called the soul 00:02:48.13\00:02:51.73 and then when the body dies, which is basically "the house," 00:02:51.77\00:02:55.70 the dust goes back to the dust... 00:02:55.74\00:02:57.71 then the immortal soul goes on, 00:02:57.74\00:02:59.64 it goes somewhere depending upon the religious persuasion 00:02:59.67\00:03:02.91 that would determine where people believe the soul goes, 00:03:02.94\00:03:06.11 some believe you go to heaven, some believe hell, 00:03:06.15\00:03:08.85 some believe... reincarnation, 00:03:08.88\00:03:10.69 some believe you enter into the spirit world 00:03:10.72\00:03:12.65 you can come back as a ghost, 00:03:12.69\00:03:14.26 there are various different views, 00:03:14.32\00:03:16.09 and then there's the third view which I call 00:03:16.12\00:03:19.46 "the mortal soul view" that basically teaches 00:03:19.49\00:03:22.63 that man is a mortal being and that when he dies, 00:03:22.66\00:03:25.77 he is dead... asleep in the grave... 00:03:25.83\00:03:27.44 but he is waiting for the resurrection from the dead 00:03:27.47\00:03:31.74 three basic views, so, we are here on His Voice Today, 00:03:31.77\00:03:36.34 to try to find out what does God's book have to say. 00:03:36.38\00:03:40.92 Our first text is, 1st Thessalonians chapter 4, 00:03:40.95\00:03:45.32 verses 16 and 17, here Paul is talking about 00:03:45.35\00:03:49.66 the return of Jesus Christ... 00:03:49.69\00:03:51.46 the great day when the Lord comes down from the sky, 00:03:51.49\00:03:54.60 verse 16 says, "For the Lord himself 00:03:54.66\00:03:57.70 shall descend from heaven with a shout, 00:03:57.73\00:04:00.70 with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God: 00:04:00.74\00:04:04.11 and the dead in Christ shall rise first... " 00:04:04.14\00:04:09.34 the dead in Christ shall rise first... 00:04:09.38\00:04:14.55 verse 17 says, 00:04:14.58\00:04:16.85 "Then we which are alive and remain 00:04:16.89\00:04:18.62 shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, 00:04:18.65\00:04:20.62 to meet the Lord in the air: 00:04:20.66\00:04:22.22 and so we shall ever be with the Lord. " 00:04:22.26\00:04:24.19 Verse 18, Paul wrote, 00:04:24.23\00:04:26.06 "Wherefore comfort one another with these words. " 00:04:26.09\00:04:29.46 Now let's examine this closely, at the end of verse 16, 00:04:29.50\00:04:34.07 again I read, Paul said that 00:04:34.10\00:04:35.90 when Jesus comes down from the skies, 00:04:35.94\00:04:38.94 that the dead in Christ shall rise first, 00:04:38.97\00:04:41.28 so, here it's talking about the dead, 00:04:41.34\00:04:43.58 it's talking about death and those who have died 00:04:43.61\00:04:46.45 in believing in Jesus, Paul says, 00:04:46.51\00:04:49.12 that they will rise which is the concept of resurrection, 00:04:49.15\00:04:54.32 they rise from the dead, now the word, "rise" 00:04:54.36\00:04:57.59 implies that they are not up there, 00:04:57.63\00:05:01.16 but that they're down somewhere and that they are rising 00:05:01.20\00:05:05.07 which means they are coming up... 00:05:05.10\00:05:06.74 coming up from the grave on resurrection morning, 00:05:06.77\00:05:10.97 the resurrection and... this concept... this truth... 00:05:11.04\00:05:15.51 is mentioned many times in the Bible, 00:05:15.54\00:05:17.71 John 11 verse 25, Jesus said, 00:05:17.78\00:05:20.98 "I am the resurrection and the life.. " 00:05:21.02\00:05:22.55 1st Corinthians 15:3 and 4, Paul talked about Jesus... 00:05:22.58\00:05:26.39 how he died... He was buried... 00:05:26.42\00:05:27.99 and then He rose from the dead on the third day. 00:05:28.02\00:05:30.99 Matthew 28 verse 7, on resurrection morning 00:05:31.03\00:05:34.13 when... after Jesus died... 00:05:34.16\00:05:36.16 the women came to the tomb and they saw an angel, 00:05:36.20\00:05:38.90 and the angel said, "Don't look for Him here, 00:05:38.93\00:05:41.77 'He has risen... He has risen from the dead... 00:05:41.80\00:05:44.64 He's not in the tomb anymore. '" 00:05:44.67\00:05:46.11 Acts 24 verse 15, Paul wrote 00:05:46.14\00:05:48.74 that there will be a resurrection of the dead 00:05:48.78\00:05:51.05 both of the just and of the unjust 00:05:51.11\00:05:53.85 so the concept of people rising 00:05:53.88\00:05:56.55 and of the resurrection of the dead... 00:05:56.58\00:05:58.42 it's a basic Bible doctrine, 00:05:58.45\00:06:00.39 it's mentioned at least a 100 times in the New Testament 00:06:00.46\00:06:03.32 there are... there are just so many verses 00:06:03.36\00:06:06.90 that teach this... now going back to verse 17, 00:06:06.96\00:06:10.43 Paul talks about how when Jesus comes down from the sky, 00:06:10.47\00:06:13.57 after one group... 00:06:13.60\00:06:15.77 those who have died in Christ believing in Jesus 00:06:15.80\00:06:18.21 are resurrected, then he said, 00:06:18.27\00:06:20.28 "We which are alive and remain... " 00:06:20.31\00:06:23.38 which refers to those who haven't died, 00:06:23.41\00:06:25.88 and personally, I hope to be in this group 00:06:25.91\00:06:29.62 I don't have any interest in biting the dust 00:06:29.65\00:06:33.32 or going down to the grave... 00:06:33.36\00:06:34.72 I would like to be alive on the day when Jesus comes, 00:06:34.76\00:06:37.39 and there will be a group of people that are alive 00:06:37.43\00:06:39.73 that go through the final days, they're alive, 00:06:39.76\00:06:42.06 they look up and they see Jesus coming 00:06:42.10\00:06:43.93 and Paul says that those who are alive and remain 00:06:43.97\00:06:46.74 will be caught up together... and the word, "together" 00:06:46.77\00:06:49.40 has to do with a reunion with those that have been resurrected 00:06:49.44\00:06:53.81 and those that are alive are caught up together 00:06:53.84\00:06:56.68 in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, 00:06:56.71\00:07:00.35 and then Paul says, 00:07:00.38\00:07:01.82 "So shall we ever be with the Lord 00:07:01.85\00:07:06.29 wherefore comfort one another with these words. " 00:07:06.32\00:07:09.29 If I were to ask you based on this text... 00:07:09.32\00:07:12.23 just this text alone, 00:07:12.26\00:07:13.60 when do believers get to be with Jesus 00:07:13.63\00:07:17.73 what would your answer be? 00:07:17.77\00:07:19.37 Based on this text, if you answered right, 00:07:19.40\00:07:22.44 the answer would be... 00:07:22.47\00:07:24.44 "we get to be with the Lord forever 00:07:24.47\00:07:27.08 when He comes down from the sky," 00:07:27.11\00:07:29.54 when he resurrects the dead 00:07:29.61\00:07:31.61 and when the living are caught up together 00:07:31.65\00:07:34.18 to meet Him in the air... that's when Paul says, 00:07:34.22\00:07:37.65 "so shall we ever be with the Lord" 00:07:37.69\00:07:41.16 and this is a very comforting truth, 00:07:41.19\00:07:44.59 this is what we're waiting for, and Paul says, 00:07:44.63\00:07:47.36 "Comfort one another with these words.. " 00:07:47.40\00:07:49.16 we're waiting for the big day 00:07:49.20\00:07:50.53 when Jesus will come down from the sky 00:07:50.57\00:07:53.23 now, next question is, the soul... 00:07:53.27\00:07:56.14 we have to tackle the soul, we have to understand the soul 00:07:56.20\00:07:59.31 in order to understand what the Bible says 00:07:59.34\00:08:01.61 so let's go back to the beginning... back to Genesis... 00:08:01.64\00:08:05.55 Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 says, 00:08:05.58\00:08:07.95 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" 00:08:07.98\00:08:10.52 in chapter 2 verse 7, 00:08:10.55\00:08:12.42 Moses described how the Lord 00:08:12.45\00:08:16.12 originally made man in the beginning. 00:08:16.16\00:08:18.66 In verse 7... Genesis 2:7, that the Lord God formed man 00:08:18.69\00:08:24.03 from the dust of the ground, 00:08:24.07\00:08:25.47 and He breathed into His nostrils the breath of life; 00:08:25.50\00:08:29.20 and man became a living soul. 00:08:29.24\00:08:31.77 I remember one time I was talking to my little... 00:08:31.81\00:08:34.41 little daughter, Abby, she's five-years old 00:08:34.44\00:08:36.28 and I was talking about 00:08:36.31\00:08:37.65 how God originally formed Adam from the dust of the ground 00:08:37.68\00:08:41.18 and He made him into a man 00:08:41.22\00:08:43.42 and then He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life 00:08:43.45\00:08:46.59 and man became a living soul... 00:08:46.62\00:08:47.96 trying to teach my daughter the Bible 00:08:47.99\00:08:49.46 and Abby looked at me and she said, 00:08:49.49\00:08:50.96 "Daddy, did God get His hands dirty when He made Adam?" 00:08:50.99\00:08:56.10 and I had to say to her, "Well, you know, Honey, 00:08:56.13\00:08:59.83 I really just don't know, I don't know, 00:08:59.87\00:09:01.50 there are a lot of things I don't know" 00:09:01.54\00:09:03.10 but I do know what God has told us 00:09:03.14\00:09:06.88 and this verse tells us about the soul 00:09:06.91\00:09:09.98 and it tells us how God formed the soul 00:09:10.01\00:09:12.75 and also the components of the soul 00:09:12.78\00:09:15.45 so notice... God made man from the dust of the ground, 00:09:15.48\00:09:19.45 here's the formula, He put man together from dirt 00:09:19.49\00:09:22.62 and then once He had him formed, 00:09:22.66\00:09:24.53 he was either standing up as a statue or lying down 00:09:24.56\00:09:28.33 then it says that God breathed into his nostrils 00:09:28.36\00:09:32.00 the breath of life, 00:09:32.03\00:09:33.84 the Hebrew word for "breath of life" means 00:09:33.87\00:09:36.91 the breath of the spirit of life, 00:09:36.94\00:09:38.87 he breathed some spark into Adam 00:09:38.91\00:09:42.31 and then at the end of the verse it says, 00:09:42.34\00:09:45.45 "Man became a living soul" 00:09:45.48\00:09:48.98 so, basically, what we read here is that 00:09:49.02\00:09:52.95 God took the dust of the earth and then He breathed 00:09:52.99\00:09:55.79 the breath of life and the combination of dust plus breath 00:09:55.82\00:10:00.43 resulted in man becoming a living soul, 00:10:00.46\00:10:06.47 the word "soul" here in the Hebrew 00:10:06.50\00:10:08.90 is "nephesh" 00:10:08.94\00:10:10.27 there's commentary that I've read 00:10:10.31\00:10:12.44 Lawrence O. Richards Expository Dictionary of Bible Words 00:10:12.47\00:10:16.54 page 576, and this is what he says about this verse 00:10:16.58\00:10:20.32 he says, the word "soul" does not indicate 00:10:20.38\00:10:23.65 some immaterial part of human beings 00:10:23.69\00:10:26.72 that continues on after death, 00:10:26.76\00:10:30.03 in the context of the living soul 00:10:30.06\00:10:33.23 was basically the totality of what Adam was, 00:10:33.29\00:10:38.33 God didn't put a soul into Adam, 00:10:38.37\00:10:41.27 into his physical house or physical body, 00:10:41.30\00:10:44.04 it says that when the dust and the breath combined 00:10:44.07\00:10:47.71 that Adam became a living soul, so that's what he was, 00:10:47.74\00:10:51.38 he was himself in his totality 00:10:51.41\00:10:54.68 he was a living soul, now when you go on... 00:10:54.72\00:10:57.95 to verse 16 and 17, we have a warning, 00:10:57.99\00:11:01.62 this was the first warning given in the Bible, 00:11:01.66\00:11:04.23 God warned Adam and he told Eve the warning, 00:11:04.26\00:11:06.73 in verse 16, the Bible says 00:11:06.76\00:11:08.86 that the Lord God commanded the man and he said, 00:11:08.90\00:11:11.47 "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat" 00:11:11.50\00:11:14.54 you're free to eat all the beautiful delicious fruit 00:11:14.60\00:11:17.61 from all these different trees, the plants, 00:11:17.64\00:11:19.81 all the good things that God had made for Adam, 00:11:19.84\00:11:21.98 and then he said, "But... " in verse 17... 00:11:22.04\00:11:24.18 "But... " and this is a big "but" 00:11:24.25\00:11:25.75 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, 00:11:25.78\00:11:29.58 you shall not eat of it: 00:11:29.62\00:11:32.65 for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die. " 00:11:32.69\00:11:38.39 Now notice those four words, "You will surely die" 00:11:38.43\00:11:43.57 when God said, "You... " 00:11:43.60\00:11:44.93 He was talking to Adam as a whole person, 00:11:44.97\00:11:46.87 again, Adam was a living soul 00:11:46.90\00:11:48.84 and God warned the living soul that if he sinned, 00:11:48.90\00:11:52.47 if he ate from the fruit... that he would surely die. 00:11:52.51\00:11:56.08 In chapter 3, the drama begins... 00:11:56.11\00:11:59.48 the great controversy between God and the devil. 00:11:59.51\00:12:03.28 In Chapter 3 verse 1, 00:12:03.32\00:12:05.69 the Bible says that the serpent was more subtle... 00:12:05.75\00:12:08.32 he was very crafty... he was tricky... 00:12:08.36\00:12:10.43 more subtle than any beast of the field 00:12:10.46\00:12:12.53 which the Lord God had made 00:12:12.56\00:12:13.90 and he struck up a conversation with the woman... with Eve... 00:12:13.93\00:12:18.03 Eve had wandered away from Adam's side... 00:12:18.10\00:12:20.10 she found herself gazing at the tree, 00:12:20.14\00:12:22.34 wondering about it and all of a sudden, 00:12:22.37\00:12:25.04 she heard this very... most likely musical, 00:12:25.07\00:12:27.74 melodious voice coming from a snake, 00:12:27.78\00:12:31.01 and Eve didn't realize who was behind the snake, 00:12:31.05\00:12:34.58 she didn't realize that the devil himself 00:12:34.62\00:12:36.89 that Lucifer... a fallen angel... 00:12:36.92\00:12:38.32 was speaking through the reptilian lips of the serpent 00:12:38.35\00:12:42.69 but he was and as they dialogued, 00:12:42.72\00:12:45.53 in verse 4, the serpent said to the woman, 00:12:45.56\00:12:47.86 he said, "You shall not surely die. " 00:12:47.90\00:12:52.97 Now notice the four words, "You shall... " 00:12:53.00\00:12:55.54 the five words... "You shall not surely die" 00:12:55.57\00:12:58.54 now, God had told Adam and Adam told Eve, 00:12:58.57\00:13:01.48 His own voice... His own words... 00:13:01.54\00:13:03.85 "You will surely die" 00:13:03.88\00:13:06.05 and then the serpent challenged that, 00:13:06.08\00:13:08.12 and the serpent said, "You will not surely die" 00:13:08.15\00:13:12.45 he quoted the words of God 00:13:12.49\00:13:13.82 but he put his one little word of poison 00:13:13.86\00:13:16.46 in the middle of the four words of God, 00:13:16.49\00:13:19.09 and that word was, "not... " 00:13:19.13\00:13:21.96 basically the devil was contradicting the Lord, 00:13:22.00\00:13:25.13 God said, "You will die... " 00:13:25.17\00:13:26.63 and the serpent said, "No you won't... 00:13:26.70\00:13:29.10 if you eat this fruit, you will not die. " 00:13:29.14\00:13:31.54 Now, let me ask you, have you ever heard 00:13:31.57\00:13:33.91 or felt like you were hearing two voices in your head, 00:13:33.94\00:13:37.15 you have the voice of conscience telling you one thing 00:13:37.18\00:13:40.32 and then you have this other 00:13:40.35\00:13:41.88 tempting voice telling you something else? 00:13:41.95\00:13:44.62 I think it's pretty safe to say that just about all of us 00:13:44.65\00:13:48.19 have had that experience many, many times, 00:13:48.22\00:13:50.36 we're in a battle... we're in a drama... 00:13:50.39\00:13:52.76 we're in a war between the voice of God 00:13:52.79\00:13:55.06 which speaks to our consciences and the voice of Satan 00:13:55.13\00:13:58.77 who contradicts God's words. 00:13:58.80\00:14:01.10 Now, in this situation, 00:14:01.14\00:14:03.14 Eve had to make a very big choice. 00:14:03.17\00:14:07.08 Should she listen to what God said? 00:14:07.11\00:14:10.11 God said, "If you eat, you'll die" 00:14:10.15\00:14:12.71 or should she listen to the serpent 00:14:12.75\00:14:15.02 who promised that she won't die 00:14:15.05\00:14:17.25 that if you sin... you really don't die... 00:14:17.29\00:14:19.75 you'll just keep going... you'll keep going on and on 00:14:19.79\00:14:22.49 and on and on and on... forever... 00:14:22.52\00:14:24.53 which is basically the idea that no matter what happens, 00:14:24.59\00:14:29.53 you just... you'll never die 00:14:29.56\00:14:31.83 and if you really think about it this is actually the root... 00:14:31.90\00:14:35.50 the root teaching of the doctrine of the immortal soul 00:14:35.54\00:14:42.18 that no matter what happens, souls just continue 00:14:42.21\00:14:45.71 on and on and on forever, 00:14:45.78\00:14:47.32 that's basically what the serpent said to Eve 00:14:47.35\00:14:50.49 and Eve had to make a choice... whom was she going to listen to 00:14:50.52\00:14:53.86 God or this pleasant voice 00:14:53.92\00:14:56.42 speaking through the lips of a snake in a tree? 00:14:56.49\00:14:59.89 And we know what the Bible says 00:14:59.96\00:15:02.16 that she made the wrong choice, she listened to the serpent, 00:15:02.20\00:15:05.23 she took the fruit... she ate it... 00:15:05.27\00:15:07.07 and then she handed it to Adam and he ate it 00:15:07.10\00:15:09.97 and their eyes were both opened 00:15:10.01\00:15:12.11 and they realized that they were naked... 00:15:12.14\00:15:14.18 the air began to get a little bit colder, 00:15:14.21\00:15:16.18 they went over into the trees, 00:15:16.24\00:15:18.35 they covered themselves with fig leaves 00:15:18.38\00:15:20.68 and then God came to them and brought them out 00:15:20.72\00:15:23.95 from their hiding place and confronted them 00:15:23.99\00:15:27.12 and told them many things in Genesis 3 verse 19, 00:15:27.16\00:15:30.96 we find what God told... told Adam, 00:15:30.99\00:15:34.76 He said, "In the sweat of your face 00:15:34.80\00:15:38.50 you will eat bread, until you return to the ground; 00:15:38.53\00:15:43.17 for out of it were you taken: for dust you are, 00:15:43.20\00:15:47.78 and to dust shall you return. " 00:15:47.84\00:15:51.21 Now, God didn't say that He was just talking about his body, 00:15:51.25\00:15:54.58 He said, He was talking about Adam himself, 00:15:54.62\00:15:57.15 He said, "I made you from the dust 00:15:57.19\00:15:59.15 and you are going back to the dust. " 00:15:59.19\00:16:01.09 But again, the serpent denied that teaching 00:16:01.12\00:16:06.03 and it's significant when you go 00:16:06.06\00:16:08.60 all the way to the book of Revelation, 00:16:08.63\00:16:10.17 chapter 12 we read that the serpent's teachings 00:16:10.20\00:16:14.77 actually deceive the entire world, 00:16:14.80\00:16:18.04 Genesis... I'm sorry... Revelation chapter 12 verse 9 00:16:18.07\00:16:23.14 says that the great dragon was cast out, 00:16:23.18\00:16:25.11 that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, 00:16:25.15\00:16:28.55 who deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, 00:16:28.58\00:16:31.95 and his angels were cast out with him. 00:16:31.99\00:16:34.36 And when Revelation... at the end of the Bible 00:16:34.39\00:16:36.69 talks about the old serpent, 00:16:36.73\00:16:38.06 that idea takes us back to the beginning of the Bible, 00:16:38.09\00:16:40.63 where Satan first deceived Eve with the doctrine 00:16:40.66\00:16:43.77 that she wouldn't die if she ate the fruit 00:16:43.80\00:16:46.97 and verse 9 says that the serpent deceives 00:16:47.00\00:16:50.07 the entire world and so the doctrine of the devil... 00:16:50.11\00:16:53.17 the doctrine that he taught in the Garden of Eden 00:16:53.21\00:16:56.95 is a doctrine that's part of his arsenal of deception 00:16:56.98\00:17:00.42 through which he used... not just to deceive Eve, 00:17:00.45\00:17:03.85 but through which he deceives people all over the world. 00:17:03.89\00:17:07.99 Now let's go back to Genesis, 00:17:08.02\00:17:10.33 what happened to Adam and Eve years later 00:17:10.36\00:17:13.66 after they listened to the voice of the serpent, 00:17:13.70\00:17:16.63 who really was right? 00:17:16.67\00:17:18.00 Was the serpent right or was God right? 00:17:18.03\00:17:20.90 In Genesis 5 verse 5, the Bible tells us very clearly 00:17:20.94\00:17:26.31 it says, "all the days that Adam lived 00:17:26.37\00:17:29.04 were nine hundred and thirty years... " 00:17:29.08\00:17:31.71 he lived a long time and then the Bible says, 00:17:31.75\00:17:34.32 "and he died. " 00:17:34.35\00:17:36.02 He lived for 930 years 00:17:36.05\00:17:39.12 and during that time he was still a living soul 00:17:39.15\00:17:41.42 and then it says, at the end of that period simply 00:17:41.46\00:17:43.69 that he died, so when he was alive, 00:17:43.73\00:17:45.96 he was a living soul and when he died, 00:17:45.99\00:17:48.90 we might say that he was a dead soul. 00:17:48.93\00:17:51.77 Death is the result of sin. 00:17:51.80\00:17:55.10 Now, the next question is, 00:17:55.14\00:17:58.37 "Can a dead soul continue to go on forever just naturally, 00:17:58.41\00:18:05.31 are we basically immortal?" 00:18:05.35\00:18:06.68 Well, let me share with you some Bible verses about the soul. 00:18:06.72\00:18:09.72 In Acts 27 verse 37, the Bible talks about 00:18:09.75\00:18:15.52 Paul boarding a ship and it says, 00:18:15.59\00:18:18.23 "In all the ship there were 00:18:18.26\00:18:19.76 two hundred three score and sixteen souls... " 00:18:19.79\00:18:22.56 showing that a soul is a person, 00:18:22.60\00:18:24.53 Acts 3:23 says, 00:18:24.57\00:18:26.67 "Every soul who will not hear that prophet... " 00:18:26.74\00:18:28.80 referring to Jesus, 00:18:28.87\00:18:30.21 "shall be destroyed from among the people... " 00:18:30.24\00:18:32.21 and so this is talking about the soul being a person. 00:18:32.24\00:18:34.74 In 1st Peter 3:20, 00:18:34.78\00:18:36.68 the Bible says that in the days of Noah, 00:18:36.71\00:18:38.58 there were eight souls who were saved by water. 00:18:38.61\00:18:41.42 So again, the soul is a person. 00:18:41.45\00:18:43.65 Now, are these souls immortal, do souls naturally live forever? 00:18:43.69\00:18:47.56 Here are some other verses, this is what the Bible says, 00:18:47.59\00:18:51.23 1st Timothy 6:16 says that God only has immortality. 00:18:51.26\00:18:54.86 Romans 2:7 says that Christians are to seek 00:18:54.90\00:18:58.03 for immortality through Jesus Christ. 00:18:58.07\00:19:00.60 1st Corinthians 15:53, 00:19:00.64\00:19:02.70 Paul wrote that on resurrection morning... 00:19:02.74\00:19:04.57 this mortal will put on immortality. 00:19:04.64\00:19:08.21 So, all of these verses show that the soul is a person 00:19:08.24\00:19:12.98 and that when we are living in this world even after sin, 00:19:13.01\00:19:17.72 we still don't have an essence within us 00:19:17.75\00:19:20.96 that is basically immortal because only God has immortality 00:19:20.99\00:19:25.26 and we seek for immortality through the gospel 00:19:25.29\00:19:27.93 through Jesus Christ... through His death... 00:19:27.96\00:19:30.53 His burial and his resurrection, that's what the Bible says. 00:19:30.57\00:19:35.44 Now, let's continue on 00:19:35.47\00:19:38.37 and find out what happens after death. 00:19:38.44\00:19:40.61 According to God's book, 00:19:40.68\00:19:42.18 can a dead soul continue to think? 00:19:42.21\00:19:44.38 You know that we're not naturally immortal, 00:19:44.41\00:19:48.22 we are mortal beings waiting for immortality 00:19:48.25\00:19:50.79 on the resurrection morning but what about our minds? 00:19:50.82\00:19:53.52 Can we continue to think after death? 00:19:53.56\00:19:55.96 Well let me just give you 00:19:55.99\00:19:57.33 a string of clear simple Bible verses from... 00:19:57.36\00:20:00.90 not from Steve Wohlberg, 00:20:00.93\00:20:02.26 not from any church but from God's book. 00:20:02.30\00:20:04.83 Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verse 5, 00:20:04.87\00:20:07.47 the Bible says that the dead know not anything. 00:20:07.50\00:20:11.07 Psalm 146 verse 4 says that when a person dies, 00:20:11.11\00:20:14.68 his thoughts perish. 00:20:14.71\00:20:16.24 Psalm 115 verse 17 says that the dead go down into silence... 00:20:16.28\00:20:21.95 when a person dies, it's silent in the grave 00:20:21.98\00:20:25.25 where they are going. 00:20:25.29\00:20:26.92 Psalm 6 verse 5 says 00:20:26.96\00:20:28.56 that in death there is no remembrance of you: 00:20:28.59\00:20:31.33 in the grave who shall give you thanks? 00:20:31.36\00:20:35.43 If you think about it, according to these verses, 00:20:35.46\00:20:39.17 death is a little bit like just blacking out, 00:20:39.20\00:20:41.94 I don't know if you've ever blacked out or not, 00:20:41.97\00:20:44.64 I did one time... a long time ago when I was a teenager, 00:20:44.67\00:20:48.04 I was playing basketball with some buddies of mine 00:20:48.08\00:20:49.98 and I went out to get the ball 00:20:50.01\00:20:51.81 and as I went up, somebody's elbow came down 00:20:51.85\00:20:54.72 and the elbow hit me right in the nose 00:20:54.75\00:20:56.69 and I still remember I was out... 00:20:56.72\00:20:59.99 and I don't remember anything 00:21:00.02\00:21:03.22 about... during the time that I was out... 00:21:03.26\00:21:05.16 but I do remember opening my eyes 00:21:05.19\00:21:08.30 at some point after the elbow hit my nose 00:21:08.33\00:21:12.93 and I was looking up... I was flat on my back... 00:21:12.97\00:21:16.00 looking up and I saw all these faces looking down on me 00:21:16.04\00:21:18.51 and now, I had "come to" from my blackout, 00:21:18.54\00:21:23.68 how long I was blacked out... 00:21:23.71\00:21:25.41 I think it was about ten minutes 00:21:25.45\00:21:27.08 but during the time when the elbow hit my nose 00:21:27.12\00:21:31.69 and the time that I looked up, I was not aware of anything, 00:21:31.75\00:21:34.79 I wasn't thinking about a thing, 00:21:34.82\00:21:36.99 I was totally out and that just convinced me 00:21:37.03\00:21:40.76 that it is possible for thoughts to cease 00:21:40.80\00:21:44.47 and if you've ever blacked out, 00:21:44.50\00:21:46.13 I'm sure you know the same thing. 00:21:46.17\00:21:47.70 This is very... it happens all the time, 00:21:47.77\00:21:50.67 it happens to lots of people. 00:21:50.71\00:21:52.04 Now, what about further descriptions of death 00:21:52.07\00:21:56.54 again... does the Bible... 00:21:56.58\00:21:58.95 we know the Bible says we're not immortal... 00:21:59.01\00:22:00.72 we know the Bible says, we can't think, 00:22:00.75\00:22:02.42 we know the Bible says, we're in the grave... 00:22:02.45\00:22:04.05 we're silent... 00:22:04.09\00:22:05.42 but there's another word that God uses, 00:22:05.45\00:22:07.29 many times... Old Testament... New Testament, 00:22:07.36\00:22:09.36 that makes it very clear what death is 00:22:09.39\00:22:12.06 and here are a number of verses. 00:22:12.09\00:22:14.50 Psalm 13 verse 3... 00:22:14.53\00:22:16.36 David talked about the sleep of death. 00:22:16.40\00:22:20.10 Acts 7 verse 60 when Stephen preached a powerful sermon, 00:22:20.14\00:22:24.71 it was his last sermon about Jesus Christ 00:22:24.74\00:22:27.21 to the Jewish Leadership in the book of Acts, 00:22:27.24\00:22:29.84 it says that they stoned him and in verse 70, 00:22:29.88\00:22:32.45 the Bible... verse 60... the Bible says, 00:22:32.48\00:22:34.48 Acts 7:60 that when he was stoned, 00:22:34.52\00:22:36.92 he fell asleep. 00:22:36.95\00:22:38.55 In 1st Corinthians 15:6, Paul wrote that 00:22:38.59\00:22:41.82 many of the witnesses of Jesus' resurrection, 00:22:41.86\00:22:44.23 who were still alive at that time when he wrote that, 00:22:44.26\00:22:46.09 but he said, "many have fallen asleep. " 00:22:46.16\00:22:48.73 1st Thessalonians 4:14, 00:22:48.76\00:22:50.53 Paul talks about those who sleep in Jesus, 00:22:50.57\00:22:53.97 and 1st Corinthians 15 verses 51 and 52, 00:22:54.04\00:22:57.37 Paul said that when Jesus comes down from heaven 00:22:57.41\00:23:00.44 on the great day, he said, 00:23:00.48\00:23:02.04 "We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed 00:23:02.08\00:23:05.61 in a moment... in the twinkling of an eye... 00:23:05.65\00:23:07.18 at the last trumpet, "for the trumpet shall sound 00:23:07.22\00:23:09.48 and the dead will be raised incorruptible 00:23:09.52\00:23:12.39 and we shall be changed. " 00:23:12.42\00:23:14.72 So, all of these verses basically teach 00:23:14.76\00:23:18.23 the idea that when a person dies, 00:23:18.26\00:23:20.90 they are asleep. 00:23:20.93\00:23:22.70 Now, if you think about the concept of sleep, 00:23:22.73\00:23:25.13 it's actually rather a comforting concept 00:23:25.17\00:23:27.54 because when you go to bed at night 00:23:27.57\00:23:28.97 and you're sound asleep, 00:23:29.00\00:23:30.37 the next thing you know is the alarm clock's going off 00:23:30.41\00:23:34.51 it's time to wake up, there is no awareness 00:23:34.54\00:23:38.41 of the passing of time 00:23:38.48\00:23:40.08 from the moment that you're out to the moment that you're awake, 00:23:40.12\00:23:43.55 it's easy to prove this, I've given many talks... 00:23:43.59\00:23:46.96 given many seminars sometimes I look at the audience 00:23:46.99\00:23:50.33 and I'll see somebody asleep 00:23:50.36\00:23:51.89 and if I'm talking about this subject, 00:23:51.93\00:23:54.16 I'll often use that person as an illustration 00:23:54.20\00:23:57.20 and I'll say to the crowd, I'll say, 00:23:57.23\00:23:58.97 "Folks, when you're asleep you don't know anything 00:23:59.00\00:24:01.87 and here is my proof" 00:24:01.90\00:24:03.64 and I'll point to this person then I'll say, 00:24:03.67\00:24:05.44 "Look, that person doesn't know that I'm talking about him, 00:24:05.47\00:24:07.08 he doesn't know what's going on around him, 00:24:07.11\00:24:09.98 he's just... as they say, 'out like a light. '" 00:24:10.01\00:24:13.08 Now, the big question is, when a person dies, 00:24:13.11\00:24:16.18 when they're asleep, if they're not conscious, 00:24:16.22\00:24:19.15 if they don't know anything like Ecclesiastes 9 verse 5 00:24:19.19\00:24:22.12 says, "Is there any hope for the future?" 00:24:22.16\00:24:25.86 Is there any hope that we will come back to life again? 00:24:25.89\00:24:29.26 Well, the answer to that is very clear 00:24:29.30\00:24:31.63 and I've already alluded to it many times, 00:24:31.67\00:24:33.94 Daniel chapter 12 verse 2 tells us that on the great day, 00:24:33.97\00:24:42.38 when Jesus comes, "many of them that sleep 00:24:42.41\00:24:46.01 in the dust of the earth shall awake, 00:24:46.05\00:24:48.88 some to everlasting life, 00:24:48.92\00:24:50.85 and some to shame and everlasting contempt. " 00:24:50.89\00:24:54.39 So the Bible says that people are sleeping 00:24:54.42\00:24:57.39 and at some point they will... they will wake up. 00:24:57.43\00:25:00.33 They will wake up and it will be resurrection morning... 00:25:00.36\00:25:04.17 and there are two resurrections 00:25:04.20\00:25:05.53 which we'll talk about in future meetings, 00:25:05.57\00:25:08.20 there's a good resurrection for believers 00:25:08.24\00:25:10.97 and then there's a bad resurrection 00:25:11.01\00:25:13.38 for those who are not believers. 00:25:13.41\00:25:15.51 Now, we've got a lot more to do, 00:25:15.54\00:25:17.58 in our next program we're going to talk about 00:25:17.61\00:25:19.28 the New Testament, we'll talk about 00:25:19.31\00:25:20.92 what Jesus Christ taught about death, burial and resurrection, 00:25:20.95\00:25:23.49 we'll talk about the story of the rich man and Lazarus, 00:25:23.52\00:25:26.19 we'll talk about the people on the cross, 00:25:26.25\00:25:28.82 we'll talk about Paul's statement, 00:25:28.86\00:25:30.23 "absent from the body, present with the Lord" 00:25:30.26\00:25:32.19 we'll take a look at all these texts from the Bible 00:25:32.23\00:25:34.93 in Part 2 of "solving the mystery of death" 00:25:34.96\00:25:37.63 but let's finish with... back with 1st Corinthians... 00:25:37.67\00:25:40.70 I'm sorry... 1st Thessalonians... 00:25:40.74\00:25:43.00 I have so many texts in my head, 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 00:25:43.04\00:25:46.57 verse 16 and 17... this is the hope of the Christian, 00:25:46.61\00:25:50.55 these are the words of God, 00:25:50.58\00:25:52.65 Paul wrote that the Lord himself will one day 00:25:52.68\00:25:55.68 descend from heaven with a shout, 00:25:55.75\00:25:57.09 with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God: 00:25:57.15\00:25:59.95 and the dead in Christ shall rise first... 00:25:59.99\00:26:03.39 here's the resurrection... 00:26:03.43\00:26:04.76 "then we which are alive and remain 00:26:04.79\00:26:06.53 shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, 00:26:06.56\00:26:08.80 to meet the Lord in the air: 00:26:08.83\00:26:10.80 and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 00:26:10.83\00:26:14.07 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. " 00:26:14.14\00:26:18.64 Comfort one another. 00:26:18.67\00:26:20.01 God wants us to know that if people die, 00:26:20.04\00:26:22.58 if they believe in Jesus, death is just a quick sleep 00:26:22.61\00:26:25.71 and then at the resurrection morning we get to see Jesus 00:26:25.75\00:26:28.82 and be with Him forever and ever and ever 00:26:28.85\00:26:31.25 and Paul said, "Comfort one another 00:26:31.29\00:26:33.49 with these words... 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