Welcome to Heaven's Point of View. 00:00:16.41\00:00:18.81 My name is Dr. Senez Rodriguez 00:00:18.85\00:00:20.98 and we are discussing part of the Series, 00:00:21.02\00:00:24.12 Love, Marriage, Sex, and Divorce according to the New Testament. 00:00:24.15\00:00:28.62 Our special guest is Dr. Tom Sheperd, 00:00:28.69\00:00:33.53 he is the Professor of New Testament Interpretation 00:00:33.56\00:00:37.43 at Andrews University, 00:00:37.47\00:00:39.33 so, welcome again, to our discussion. 00:00:39.37\00:00:42.97 Now, we want to learn, Dr. Sheperd, 00:00:43.00\00:00:46.54 what the New Testament teaches about Divorce, 00:00:46.57\00:00:51.75 what passages will we look at today? 00:00:51.78\00:00:54.88 Okay, there are two central passages 00:00:54.92\00:00:57.95 that we'll take a look at over several programs. 00:00:57.99\00:01:01.82 Matthew 19 verses 3 to 12 is a passage 00:01:01.86\00:01:08.86 where Jesus has a discussion with Pharisees 00:01:08.90\00:01:12.17 about the question of divorce 00:01:12.20\00:01:13.74 and 1st Corinthians 7 verses 10 to 16 00:01:13.77\00:01:16.87 is a passage where the Apostle Paul 00:01:16.91\00:01:18.94 also discusses and goes into the topic. 00:01:18.97\00:01:22.38 In the next few discussions 00:01:22.41\00:01:24.08 we will look at Matthew 19 00:01:24.15\00:01:25.91 so, let's turn to Matthew 19 00:01:25.95\00:01:27.65 and read that passage, Matthew 19 verses 3 through 12, 00:01:27.68\00:01:32.82 Matthew 19 verses 3 through 12... 00:01:32.85\00:01:37.79 Okay, it says, like this, 00:01:37.83\00:01:41.16 "The Pharisees also came unto Him, tempting Him, 00:01:41.23\00:01:46.27 and saying unto Him, 'Is it lawful for a man 00:01:46.30\00:01:51.31 to put away his wife for every cause?' 00:01:51.34\00:01:54.44 And He answered and said unto them, 00:01:54.48\00:01:57.55 'Have you not read that He which made them 00:01:57.58\00:02:01.78 at the beginning made them male and female,' 00:02:01.82\00:02:05.99 and said, 'For this cause 00:02:06.05\00:02:10.09 shall a man leave father and mother 00:02:10.13\00:02:13.09 and shall cleave to his wife: 00:02:13.13\00:02:16.00 and they twain shall be one flesh?' 00:02:16.03\00:02:20.07 Wherefore, they are no more twain, but one flesh. 00:02:20.10\00:02:26.01 What therefore God hath joined together, 00:02:26.04\00:02:29.44 let no man put asunder. 00:02:29.51\00:02:32.61 They said unto Him, 'Why did Moses then command 00:02:32.65\00:02:36.28 to give a written a writing of divorcement, 00:02:36.32\00:02:39.92 and to put her away?' 00:02:39.95\00:02:42.86 He said unto them, 'Moses, because of the hardness 00:02:42.89\00:02:48.46 of your hearts, suffered you to put away 00:02:48.50\00:02:52.60 your wife but from the beginning 00:02:52.63\00:02:55.27 it was not so. 00:02:55.30\00:02:57.64 And I say unto you, 00:02:57.67\00:02:59.47 whosoever shall put away his wife, 00:02:59.51\00:03:02.51 except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, 00:03:02.54\00:03:07.15 committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her 00:03:07.18\00:03:11.22 which is put away doth commit adultery. 00:03:11.25\00:03:15.26 His disciples say unto Him, If the case of the man 00:03:15.29\00:03:21.23 be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 00:03:21.26\00:03:24.97 But He said unto them, 00:03:25.00\00:03:26.84 All men cannot receive this saying, 00:03:26.87\00:03:30.14 save they to whom it is given. 00:03:30.17\00:03:34.21 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born 00:03:34.28\00:03:38.91 from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, 00:03:38.95\00:03:43.85 which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, 00:03:43.89\00:03:48.76 which have made themselves eunuchs 00:03:48.79\00:03:51.69 for the kingdom of heaven's sake. 00:03:51.73\00:03:54.56 He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. " 00:03:54.60\00:03:59.53 Okay, well... it's quite a passage. 00:03:59.57\00:04:03.14 Now, we should place this passage 00:04:03.17\00:04:06.68 within the broader context of the book of Matthew 00:04:06.71\00:04:09.64 so we understand its... where it sits. 00:04:09.68\00:04:11.91 In the Gospel of Matthew, 00:04:11.95\00:04:14.55 the favorite gospel of the church really, 00:04:14.58\00:04:17.59 there are five great sermons of Jesus, 00:04:17.62\00:04:20.59 there is the Sermon on the Mount in chapters 5 to 7, 00:04:20.62\00:04:25.09 there is the Mission of the Disciples, 00:04:25.13\00:04:28.33 where Jesus describes their mission in chapter 10, 00:04:28.36\00:04:30.77 there is the set of parables 00:04:30.80\00:04:33.07 that He puts together in chapter 13, 00:04:33.10\00:04:34.87 there's the experience of the church life 00:04:34.90\00:04:37.61 or the community's life in chapter 18 00:04:37.64\00:04:40.24 and then there is the apocalyptic discourse 00:04:40.28\00:04:42.78 about the end of the world, 00:04:42.81\00:04:44.15 about the destruction of Jerusalem 00:04:44.18\00:04:45.51 from the end of the world in Matthew 24 and 25 00:04:45.58\00:04:48.08 and some might even extend that back in to Matthew 23, 00:04:48.12\00:04:51.09 each of these 00:04:51.12\00:04:53.76 five great sermons, 00:04:53.82\00:04:56.62 end with the same kinds of words 00:04:56.66\00:04:59.49 when Jesus finished these words, okay. 00:04:59.53\00:05:02.96 So, our passage is right after one of those sermons. 00:05:03.03\00:05:07.74 Jesus, in Matthew spends the majority of His ministry 00:05:07.80\00:05:12.47 in Galilee, but then, here in Matthew 19 00:05:12.51\00:05:17.11 he begins to move toward Jerusalem 00:05:17.15\00:05:19.78 where he will have His triumphal entry 00:05:19.81\00:05:22.45 in chapter 21, and then onward 00:05:22.48\00:05:25.65 to the passion narrative that comes there in Jerusalem, 00:05:25.69\00:05:30.99 so this chapter is a prelude to Jesus arriving in Jerusalem. 00:05:31.03\00:05:36.00 In Mark... the same story 00:05:36.03\00:05:37.93 comes before the triumphal entry in chapter 11, 00:05:37.97\00:05:41.10 of the gospel of Mark, 00:05:41.14\00:05:42.70 now, numerous times in Gospel stories, 00:05:42.74\00:05:46.21 Jesus is in dispute with religious leaders. 00:05:46.24\00:05:49.34 Sadducess, Pharisees, 00:05:49.38\00:05:52.75 teachers of the law... sometimes called scribes. 00:05:52.78\00:05:55.52 At times these parables are told in the context of the 00:05:55.55\00:06:00.02 arguments between Him and these religious leaders, 00:06:00.06\00:06:04.29 so there's a kind of a back and forth 00:06:04.33\00:06:06.76 thrust in power, you know, 00:06:06.80\00:06:08.63 ricochet, back and forth between Him and these leaders. 00:06:08.66\00:06:13.20 Within each of these controversies 00:06:13.23\00:06:15.44 Jesus' teaching which becomes Christian teaching 00:06:15.47\00:06:19.34 is set forth against the backdrop of controversies 00:06:19.37\00:06:23.18 with the religious leaders of Jesus' day, 00:06:23.21\00:06:25.31 so we should beware of making too many assumptions 00:06:25.35\00:06:29.88 about all the Pharisees or all the Sadducees 00:06:29.92\00:06:33.59 just based on the disputes that Jesus has 00:06:33.62\00:06:37.03 with a handful of them in the gospel stories. 00:06:37.06\00:06:40.43 Yes, now, Jesus obviously, 00:06:40.46\00:06:43.77 frequently fights with the Pharisees, 00:06:43.80\00:06:46.30 but who are these people? 00:06:46.33\00:06:47.87 Yeah, that's a good question, 00:06:47.90\00:06:50.41 we should think a little bit about their background. 00:06:50.44\00:06:52.61 The Pharisees were a popular religious group 00:06:52.64\00:06:54.51 in the time of Jesus 00:06:54.54\00:06:55.91 and though there is some question 00:06:55.94\00:06:59.21 of just how powerful they were at that time, 00:06:59.25\00:07:01.88 politically, they don't seem to have been as connected 00:07:01.92\00:07:06.29 as, say, the Sadducees and the Priests, 00:07:06.32\00:07:09.06 when Jesus gets to Jerusalem actually 00:07:09.09\00:07:11.36 the Pharisees disappear in most of the gospels, 00:07:11.39\00:07:15.66 they... not in Jerusalem... 00:07:15.70\00:07:17.83 but when it comes to His passion narrative, 00:07:17.90\00:07:20.14 when He's going to be arrested, 00:07:20.20\00:07:21.54 the Pharisees are hardly mentioned, if at all 00:07:21.57\00:07:24.47 in that Section, so that's more the Elders, 00:07:24.54\00:07:27.14 the Religious Leaders, the Jerusalem Elites 00:07:27.18\00:07:29.71 who bring about His trial but the origin of the Pharisees 00:07:29.74\00:07:36.62 is somewhat obscure, 00:07:36.65\00:07:38.39 they seem to have arisen around the time of the Hasmoneans 00:07:38.45\00:07:41.72 which is about 165 years before Christ, 00:07:41.76\00:07:45.93 during the reign of John Hyrcanus, 00:07:45.99\00:07:49.06 they first had influence over him, 00:07:49.10\00:07:52.70 likely serving as lower officials and functionaries 00:07:52.73\00:07:55.77 but later fell out of favor 00:07:55.80\00:07:57.47 and were maneuvered by a Sadduceesian rival 00:07:57.51\00:08:02.58 the name "Pharisee" comes from the Hebrew 00:08:02.61\00:08:07.65 or Aramaic word, "Perisa" 00:08:07.68\00:08:09.02 and it's an adjective that means, 00:08:09.05\00:08:11.45 separated or distinguished. 00:08:11.49\00:08:13.59 The question is, "What were they separated from?" 00:08:13.62\00:08:17.36 This is actually not the term that they had for themselves 00:08:17.39\00:08:19.23 but this was others that maybe gave them this title. 00:08:19.26\00:08:23.73 Where they separated from politics? 00:08:23.77\00:08:25.80 Where they separated from wickedness? 00:08:25.83\00:08:27.84 Where they separated from the common people? 00:08:27.87\00:08:29.64 The emphasis on purity among them 00:08:29.67\00:08:32.14 would suggest that they were separated from uncleanness 00:08:32.17\00:08:34.14 so, you know, when they argue with Jesus 00:08:34.18\00:08:36.64 that He's not washing His hands, 00:08:36.68\00:08:38.48 and the disciples are eating with unclean things 00:08:38.51\00:08:41.82 and He's associating with sinners 00:08:41.85\00:08:44.12 and tax collectors, 00:08:44.15\00:08:46.19 people that they would not have contact with 00:08:46.22\00:08:48.82 because of the uncleanness. 00:08:48.86\00:08:51.46 They likely believed in the 00:08:51.49\00:08:52.83 influence of Divine activity on human life 00:08:52.86\00:08:54.66 both human freedom and faith, 00:08:54.70\00:08:57.40 so you can have both at the same time. 00:08:57.43\00:09:00.04 Reward and punishment in the afterlife... 00:09:00.07\00:09:02.64 they believed in the resurrection, 00:09:02.67\00:09:04.01 the New Testament tells us that, they stressed tithing, 00:09:04.04\00:09:06.88 ritual purity, Sabbath observance, 00:09:06.91\00:09:09.41 without a lot of interest in civil laws 00:09:09.44\00:09:11.41 and regulations of temple worship 00:09:11.45\00:09:13.01 they almost sound like Seventh-day Adventists... 00:09:13.05\00:09:14.38 Yeah. 00:09:14.42\00:09:15.75 They became the roots of what is today, 00:09:15.78\00:09:18.32 Rabbinic Judaism or Rabbinic Judaism out of which 00:09:18.35\00:09:21.22 different parts of Judaism come today, 00:09:21.26\00:09:23.66 so they were a very important group. 00:09:23.69\00:09:26.03 Now, that's very interesting but my question is, 00:09:26.06\00:09:29.26 what was the basis of their dispute with Jesus, 00:09:29.30\00:09:32.47 what was the foundation of the dispute? 00:09:32.50\00:09:34.30 Yeah, so they come to ask Him in Matthew 19 verse 3 00:09:34.34\00:09:38.61 they ask the question, 00:09:38.64\00:09:39.97 "Is it lawful to divorce ones wife for any cause?" 00:09:40.01\00:09:43.04 Hmmm... hmmm... 00:09:43.08\00:09:44.41 And there were two different schools of thought 00:09:44.45\00:09:47.48 or groups of Pharisees, they were called the... 00:09:47.52\00:09:50.62 in Jesus' day, they were called the 00:09:50.65\00:09:52.62 School of Shammai and the School of Hillel. 00:09:52.65\00:09:55.06 So we should describe these two schools, 00:09:55.09\00:09:57.23 these are sub-categories of the Pharisees. 00:09:57.26\00:09:59.29 The School of Shammai, on the subject of divorce, 00:09:59.33\00:10:02.90 believed that divorce should only be 00:10:02.93\00:10:06.17 for marital unfaithfulness. 00:10:06.20\00:10:08.14 They referenced a text in the book of Deuteronomy 00:10:08.17\00:10:12.14 chapter 24 verses 1 and 2, 00:10:12.17\00:10:14.28 that which we'll spend more time looking at 00:10:14.31\00:10:16.01 and this talked about... there's a phrase in there 00:10:16.04\00:10:21.95 that "nakedness of a matter," 00:10:21.98\00:10:23.85 that's kind of a literal translation, 00:10:23.89\00:10:26.15 the nakedness of a matter, and for the School of Shammai, 00:10:26.22\00:10:28.86 the emphasis was on the word "nakedness" 00:10:28.89\00:10:31.69 and that, to them meant "sexual immorality," 00:10:31.73\00:10:34.26 somebody having sex with somebody 00:10:34.30\00:10:35.76 other than their spouse. 00:10:35.80\00:10:37.13 Originally, if we go back to the time of Deuteronomy, 00:10:37.17\00:10:40.34 if we go back to Moses' time, the law, more likely, 00:10:40.37\00:10:43.77 was related to a matter of personal indecency 00:10:43.81\00:10:46.51 because if you were involved in adultery, 00:10:46.54\00:10:48.81 the Law of Moses said that you should be stoned. 00:10:48.84\00:10:51.78 Okay, so, you wouldn't have 00:10:51.81\00:10:54.32 that... you wouldn't have divorce in quite the... 00:10:54.35\00:10:58.29 for those reasons 00:10:58.32\00:10:59.65 necessarily... for adultery 00:10:59.69\00:11:01.76 but after 30 AD, probably there was no 00:11:01.79\00:11:04.36 death penalty for adultery in Judaism 00:11:04.39\00:11:06.90 so, this is the time when Jesus is fighting with these people 00:11:06.93\00:11:11.03 and they're asking Him this very question. 00:11:11.07\00:11:13.23 Now the School of Hillel on the other hand 00:11:13.27\00:11:15.24 they believed that divorce could be for just about anything 00:11:15.27\00:11:19.07 that was distasteful to the husband. 00:11:19.11\00:11:20.88 They took the same phrase, "Nakedness of a matter" 00:11:20.91\00:11:24.38 or indecency of a matter 00:11:24.41\00:11:25.75 and they focused on the word, "matter" 00:11:25.78\00:11:28.82 so, for them if she burned his toast, 00:11:28.85\00:11:31.65 you know, we would say, he could divorce her, 00:11:31.69\00:11:35.29 and so for almost any cause, he could divorce her 00:11:35.32\00:11:38.86 and one of the Rabbis even said 00:11:38.89\00:11:41.20 that if he found somebody who was prettier, 00:11:41.26\00:11:43.06 he could divorce her for that. 00:11:43.10\00:11:44.43 So, some of these people had come to a position 00:11:44.47\00:11:47.70 where marriage... the commitment in marriage 00:11:47.77\00:11:51.04 was diminished and where they were 00:11:51.07\00:11:54.44 doing divorce for trivial reasons. 00:11:54.48\00:11:57.81 There were four reasons among Jews of that day 00:11:57.85\00:12:01.88 for which divorce was more commonly done, 00:12:01.92\00:12:05.09 childlessness, material neglect, 00:12:05.12\00:12:07.92 emotional neglect or unfaithfulness. 00:12:07.96\00:12:10.53 So, these kinds of characteristics were big dice 00:12:10.56\00:12:14.53 I know that you are a Counselor 00:12:14.56\00:12:16.77 and work here at 3abn in counseling 00:12:16.80\00:12:18.97 and have worked with people on divorce, 00:12:19.00\00:12:21.10 what kinds of solutions do you typically recommend? 00:12:21.14\00:12:23.91 We get kind of practical here for a moment, 00:12:23.94\00:12:25.57 we'll look back at the text but... 00:12:25.61\00:12:26.94 Solution for this problem? 00:12:26.98\00:12:28.91 For this problem, yeah. 00:12:28.94\00:12:30.85 Well, I have at least four. Hmmm... hmmm... 00:12:30.88\00:12:34.42 And I would say the number one is: spending time together. 00:12:34.45\00:12:41.89 Okay this is to prevent divorce? To prevent. 00:12:41.92\00:12:44.59 To knock down that path, this is what you need to do: 00:12:44.63\00:12:47.20 spend time together. 00:12:47.23\00:12:48.56 Spending time together in order to be able to share 00:12:48.60\00:12:52.37 feelings, emotions, what happened during the day, 00:12:52.40\00:12:56.20 sharing, because the communication 00:12:56.24\00:12:58.87 is the basis for the establishment of a relationship. 00:12:58.91\00:13:01.71 No communication... no relationship. 00:13:01.74\00:13:03.85 So, it is important and these days 00:13:03.88\00:13:05.95 when people are so busy 00:13:06.01\00:13:07.52 they tend to separate, but also... 00:13:07.55\00:13:10.19 And my wife and I find that... that... 00:13:10.22\00:13:12.42 meal times is a great time for... 00:13:12.45\00:13:14.22 for sharing back and forth, "So how did your day go?" 00:13:14.26\00:13:16.42 "So, what happened to you today?" 00:13:16.46\00:13:17.79 Exactly... exactly... Here's the news of the day. 00:13:17.83\00:13:19.26 Or going for a walk. Or going for a walk... 00:13:19.29\00:13:21.00 So you do exercise and you talk 00:13:21.06\00:13:22.86 so you have two reasons to be together. 00:13:22.90\00:13:26.47 You need to spend time together 00:13:26.50\00:13:28.70 besides time in bed. Absolutely... 00:13:28.74\00:13:30.87 You have to have some other time where you talk 00:13:30.91\00:13:33.04 and you think about the day and you talk together 00:13:33.07\00:13:35.18 and have that relationship. 00:13:35.21\00:13:36.54 Exactly, another important issue is: 00:13:36.58\00:13:38.85 focus on what is positive in your partner 00:13:38.88\00:13:41.85 because, no one is perfect, at least, I am not, 00:13:41.88\00:13:45.82 but because no one is perfect, 00:13:45.85\00:13:48.79 we must focus on what is positive, 00:13:48.82\00:13:51.56 what is good in your partner and mention that... 00:13:51.59\00:13:54.10 the person needs to hear it. They do. 00:13:54.13\00:13:56.13 And express appreciation for that. 00:13:56.16\00:13:58.13 So it's very important, another one is: 00:13:58.17\00:14:00.00 accept the differences that may be... between the two 00:14:00.04\00:14:03.87 because when you have certain things that are 00:14:03.91\00:14:07.61 very different from mine, 00:14:07.64\00:14:08.98 then, your differences can compensate mine. 00:14:09.01\00:14:12.08 And also, very important: worship together, 00:14:12.11\00:14:15.18 particularly for a Christian couple, 00:14:15.22\00:14:17.32 worship together, pray together, 00:14:17.35\00:14:19.42 read the Bible together, 00:14:19.45\00:14:21.39 I think that those are very important. 00:14:21.42\00:14:23.46 We can make a longer list 00:14:23.49\00:14:25.33 but I think that those are very important. 00:14:25.36\00:14:26.93 Sure, I mean, as we talk about divorce in these passages, 00:14:26.96\00:14:30.63 many times people will get the kind of feeling like, 00:14:30.67\00:14:33.54 "Well, there's this reason and there's that reason," 00:14:33.57\00:14:36.37 and they get focused on the small details, 00:14:36.40\00:14:38.57 "Well, do I have Biblical grounds for divorce?" 00:14:38.61\00:14:41.98 And really what they need to focus on is 00:14:42.01\00:14:44.55 trying to preserve and trying to reclaim 00:14:44.61\00:14:47.08 and trying to enhance the experience that they have 00:14:47.12\00:14:50.65 together as a couple and to avoid divorce. 00:14:50.69\00:14:52.79 Exactly. 00:14:52.82\00:14:54.16 Yeah, because God says, "I hate divorce," yeah... okay. 00:14:54.19\00:15:01.76 Now, according to Judaism, what was the standard pattern 00:15:01.80\00:15:09.47 of divorce in Judaism, what was it? 00:15:09.50\00:15:11.94 We said that they had these four different reasons 00:15:11.97\00:15:15.51 that were typical for divorce, just to reiterate, 00:15:15.54\00:15:19.05 those were: childlessness, material neglect, 00:15:19.08\00:15:22.22 emotional neglect and unfaithfulness 00:15:22.25\00:15:26.25 and it's interesting that over about... 00:15:26.29\00:15:29.32 maybe... the past 100 years before Jesus, 00:15:29.36\00:15:32.33 there had been some shifts that were taking place 00:15:32.39\00:15:35.76 in what would be called, "Laws of the dowry" 00:15:35.80\00:15:39.60 and these had an effect on divorce... 00:15:39.63\00:15:43.17 on marriage and divorce 00:15:43.20\00:15:44.54 so, let me just describe a little bit about the concept 00:15:44.57\00:15:48.11 of "dowry," in the original law 00:15:48.14\00:15:51.95 the dowry... they sometimes call the 00:15:51.98\00:15:54.82 "bride price" was a payment to the father of the bride 00:15:54.85\00:15:59.99 it's described here, 00:16:00.06\00:16:02.16 there are successive stages in divorce law in Judaism, 00:16:02.22\00:16:05.36 the last two established by 00:16:05.39\00:16:07.90 somebody named Simeon ben Shetach 00:16:07.93\00:16:11.23 in about the 1st century BC, 00:16:11.27\00:16:12.77 originally, they had the bride price 00:16:12.83\00:16:16.24 or something called Mohar, 00:16:16.27\00:16:17.97 was paid to the father of the bride, 00:16:18.04\00:16:20.61 it was a certain amount for a virgin 00:16:20.64\00:16:23.14 and it was a different amount for a widow 00:16:23.18\00:16:25.21 we kind of look at this today and we say, "Bride price? 00:16:25.25\00:16:27.92 What in the world are you doing with a bride price?" 00:16:27.95\00:16:30.49 Well, it was to illustrate that you were able... 00:16:30.52\00:16:33.05 you were a capable young fellow 00:16:33.09\00:16:34.42 and you were going to be able to take care of this young lady 00:16:34.46\00:16:36.93 and not uncommonly, then, there would be an experience 00:16:36.96\00:16:41.56 that if you broke up, if there was divorce, 00:16:41.60\00:16:44.60 the money would go back to the young lady, 00:16:44.63\00:16:47.64 this law... this original law... 00:16:47.67\00:16:50.24 there was a payment for the father... 00:16:50.27\00:16:51.61 was changed to... it was a payment to the bride. 00:16:51.64\00:16:53.48 okay, so the first change brought... 00:16:53.51\00:16:57.68 was the bride price was paid to the bride 00:16:57.71\00:16:59.85 but kept on reserve at her father's house, 00:16:59.88\00:17:01.98 in the event of a divorce or the death of her husband. 00:17:02.02\00:17:05.29 This still meant that it was costly to marry 00:17:05.32\00:17:08.16 but relatively cost-free to divorce, 00:17:08.19\00:17:11.36 because you pay it first, 00:17:11.39\00:17:13.60 people were reluctant to marry 00:17:13.63\00:17:15.86 but many were too hasty to divorce, 00:17:15.90\00:17:18.20 so it didn't seem to be good practice... 00:17:18.23\00:17:19.80 by this law... so they changed it again, 00:17:19.83\00:17:22.27 and they turned it into "payment into goods" 00:17:22.30\00:17:24.74 so in this case, the "bride price" was turned 00:17:24.77\00:17:28.24 into goods like metal pots or ornaments, 00:17:28.28\00:17:30.21 and the bride took them with her to her husband's house. 00:17:30.25\00:17:34.38 She would also take them away if she was divorced by him 00:17:34.42\00:17:38.55 or widowed, her marriage was still costly 00:17:38.59\00:17:41.66 but divorce was also costly to the husband personally 00:17:41.69\00:17:45.36 because he lost the use of those goods. 00:17:45.39\00:17:48.90 Hmmm... hmmm... 00:17:48.93\00:17:50.50 Now we might tend to think "Oh, that's so monetary for few" 00:17:50.53\00:17:53.27 but, frankly, marriage is not just about sex 00:17:53.30\00:17:57.84 and just about relationships, it's also about monetary things 00:17:57.87\00:18:00.84 and throughout history people have found 00:18:00.88\00:18:02.78 that it's good to be married, 00:18:02.81\00:18:04.25 and that there are beneficial effects both ways, 00:18:04.28\00:18:07.32 then it was changed, differently, still. 00:18:07.35\00:18:10.19 It was changed... the next step was to allow 00:18:10.22\00:18:12.99 the money to be invested in the family business, 00:18:13.02\00:18:15.62 now there was no longer any tangible set of utensils 00:18:15.66\00:18:18.23 but the woman received a sum of money 00:18:18.26\00:18:20.83 if she was divorced, 00:18:20.86\00:18:22.20 the final change was a promise to pay... you notice this... 00:18:22.23\00:18:27.04 in this last step, no money needed to be exchanged 00:18:27.07\00:18:29.60 because this would become 00:18:29.64\00:18:31.04 part of the groom's financial property anyway... 00:18:31.07\00:18:33.31 instead, there was a promise made... 00:18:33.34\00:18:36.51 a contract called "ketubah" 00:18:36.54\00:18:38.11 "to pay the bride a sum on divorce" 00:18:38.15\00:18:41.68 the father would also give a dowry or a gift 00:18:41.72\00:18:44.39 to the bride which could be small or quite large. 00:18:44.42\00:18:47.86 This remained hers and became included in the ketubah 00:18:47.89\00:18:51.29 that the husband had to repay on divorce, 00:18:51.33\00:18:53.43 so the last two changes made marriage much less costly, 00:18:53.46\00:18:57.97 so it was easier to get married, 00:18:58.00\00:19:00.04 but made divorce more costly, 00:19:00.07\00:19:01.80 all right, so, these were all changes taking place 00:19:01.84\00:19:05.27 in the marriage laws in Judaism approximately 100 years 00:19:05.31\00:19:08.01 leading up to the time of Jesus. 00:19:08.04\00:19:10.25 Wow! so the basis of the fight between the Pharisees 00:19:10.28\00:19:13.75 related to... which of these schools? 00:19:13.78\00:19:16.22 Yeah, to which school you belong in, 00:19:16.25\00:19:18.62 whether you belonged in the School of Shammai 00:19:18.65\00:19:21.02 or whether you belong in the School of Hillel, 00:19:21.06\00:19:23.39 the Pharisees disagreed among themselves 00:19:23.43\00:19:25.66 over the matter of divorce 00:19:25.69\00:19:27.13 and so, they came to ask Jesus His opinion, 00:19:27.16\00:19:30.60 so Jesus responds in verses 4 to 6, 00:19:30.67\00:19:33.97 let's read those verses again. 00:19:34.00\00:19:37.41 Matthew 19 verses 4 to 6. Yeah. 00:19:37.44\00:19:40.88 And He answered and said unto them, 00:19:40.91\00:19:44.28 "Have ye not read, that He which made them 00:19:44.31\00:19:48.02 at the beginning 'made them male and female. ' 00:19:48.05\00:19:51.72 and said, 'For this cause 00:19:51.75\00:19:54.42 shall a man leave father and mother, 00:19:54.46\00:19:57.46 and shall cleave to his wife: 00:19:57.49\00:19:59.89 and they twain shall be one flesh?' 00:19:59.93\00:20:04.80 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. 00:20:04.83\00:20:09.24 What therefore God hath joined together, 00:20:09.27\00:20:12.61 let no man put asunder. " 00:20:12.64\00:20:15.91 All right... so this is Jesus' response to them 00:20:15.94\00:20:19.78 and very interestingly combines the Creation accounts 00:20:19.81\00:20:26.35 from Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, He puts them side by side, 00:20:26.39\00:20:31.83 see the story in Genesis 1 00:20:31.86\00:20:34.36 if you read that beautiful Creation story 00:20:34.40\00:20:37.27 focuses attention on God as the Almighty Creator, 00:20:37.30\00:20:42.14 God speaks and it happens and He prepares the world 00:20:42.17\00:20:46.91 and in Genesis 1:26 to 28, the creation of the first people 00:20:46.94\00:20:52.11 is reported, and at the heart of this 00:20:52.15\00:20:56.25 God says, "Let us make man 00:20:56.28\00:20:59.15 in our image and after our likeness," 00:20:59.19\00:21:02.59 theologians have called this the image of God 00:21:02.62\00:21:06.13 or the Latin terminology is "Imago Dei," 00:21:06.16\00:21:09.60 okay, to be made in God's image. 00:21:09.63\00:21:12.33 Jesus, unless He's alluding without specific reference 00:21:12.37\00:21:17.37 focuses attention on the 00:21:17.41\00:21:19.51 maleness and femaleness of the two people, 00:21:19.57\00:21:22.11 that is... to suggest they are two, 00:21:22.14\00:21:25.65 He made them male and female, two... 00:21:25.68\00:21:29.18 then, He draws from the Genesis 2 story 00:21:29.22\00:21:32.75 and that story focuses attention 00:21:32.79\00:21:36.26 on the creation of people, right, in Genesis 2 verse 7 00:21:36.29\00:21:40.06 and God makes the man of the dust of the earth 00:21:40.10\00:21:42.16 breathed into it the breathe of life 00:21:42.20\00:21:44.73 and man becomes a living soul, 00:21:44.77\00:21:46.33 very important foundational concept 00:21:46.37\00:21:48.47 of anthropology in the Bible. 00:21:48.50\00:21:50.17 But He goes on, you know, in that story, 00:21:50.21\00:21:53.88 to the place where they... God says, 00:21:53.91\00:21:56.88 "It's not good for the man to be alone" 00:21:56.91\00:21:59.81 and so... actually the first thing He does is 00:21:59.85\00:22:04.62 He brings the animals for him to name, 00:22:04.65\00:22:07.02 so that the man will see that there's no one like him 00:22:07.06\00:22:10.73 and something happens in the man's heart 00:22:10.76\00:22:13.80 he feels a sense of need then God puts him to sleep. 00:22:13.83\00:22:17.70 God takes a rib, God makes the woman 00:22:17.73\00:22:20.40 and brings her to the man, now, so, 00:22:20.44\00:22:23.04 "it is not good for the man to be alone... " 00:22:23.07\00:22:26.01 is resolved when the woman is made and brought to the man. 00:22:26.04\00:22:31.21 It's interesting that Jesus combines the two stories 00:22:31.25\00:22:36.45 Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 when He's talking about marriage 00:22:36.48\00:22:41.62 He does not seem to emphasize so much 00:22:41.66\00:22:44.59 the idea of the "Imogo Dei" or the image of God 00:22:44.63\00:22:48.16 though that is a key concept of Biblical anthropology, 00:22:48.20\00:22:51.67 but rather, He seems to focus attention 00:22:51.70\00:22:54.67 on this process of two becoming one. 00:22:54.70\00:22:57.67 Now, that's in Genesis 2 by itself 00:22:57.71\00:23:00.71 but Jesus seems to super emphasize it 00:23:00.74\00:23:03.75 by saying that when God originally made them, 00:23:03.78\00:23:05.71 He made them male and female and then 00:23:05.78\00:23:07.92 a man leaves his father and mother 00:23:07.95\00:23:10.09 and the two become one. 00:23:10.12\00:23:11.55 It's important to notice here that Jesus... 00:23:11.59\00:23:14.46 in putting together Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 00:23:14.49\00:23:17.33 has focused attention 00:23:17.36\00:23:18.73 on the maleness and the femaleness of the two people 00:23:18.76\00:23:21.46 that are involved in marriage, they become one flesh. 00:23:21.50\00:23:25.43 This highly implies that Jesus sees the male-female union 00:23:25.47\00:23:29.37 as the standard ruling out same-sex marriage, 00:23:29.40\00:23:33.91 so this passage is not commonly looked at 00:23:33.98\00:23:37.61 or drawn from on the whole question of 00:23:37.65\00:23:40.98 homosexuality and same-sex marriage 00:23:41.05\00:23:43.62 but here Jesus puts the two together 00:23:43.65\00:23:46.15 and emphasizing that maleness and femaleness 00:23:46.19\00:23:48.62 implies this idea that it's the two becoming one. 00:23:48.66\00:23:53.80 Now, Jesus makes His conclusion in verse 6 00:23:53.83\00:23:57.73 so, want to see verse 6 again and He says there 00:23:57.77\00:24:01.64 so they are no longer two but one flesh. 00:24:01.67\00:24:05.51 What, therefore, God has joined together, 00:24:05.57\00:24:09.34 let not man separate. 00:24:09.41\00:24:11.11 The logic Jesus followed in joining Genesis 1 and 2 00:24:11.15\00:24:15.78 is displayed in His conclusion that the man and the woman 00:24:15.82\00:24:20.49 are no longer two, they are one 00:24:20.52\00:24:23.79 and He goes further than this even, 00:24:23.83\00:24:27.03 He indicates that what this really means is that God... 00:24:27.06\00:24:30.97 that God has acted in marriage, the verb is... 00:24:31.00\00:24:36.24 means to yoke together, to put... 00:24:36.30\00:24:40.28 you have two oxen and you put a... 00:24:40.31\00:24:43.88 you put... a yoke over them, 00:24:43.91\00:24:46.65 the yoke helps them work together, 00:24:46.68\00:24:48.15 so that they don't go in opposite directions 00:24:48.18\00:24:51.05 what God has yoked together, okay... 00:24:51.09\00:24:54.06 The term would be used of this, you know, 00:24:54.09\00:24:56.76 oxen that they could work together. 00:24:56.79\00:24:59.16 In marriage, according to Jesus, 00:24:59.19\00:25:01.66 God has yoked together the man and the woman. 00:25:01.70\00:25:03.80 His conclusion is that "what God has joined together, 00:25:03.83\00:25:07.44 or yoked together, 00:25:07.47\00:25:08.80 man should not separate or divide," 00:25:08.84\00:25:10.64 don't take the yoke off, which, of course, would be divorce. 00:25:10.67\00:25:15.24 Jesus' basic stance is to stress the sanctity 00:25:15.28\00:25:20.72 and enduring nature of marriage. 00:25:20.75\00:25:22.32 You see, the Pharisees were coming to Him 00:25:22.38\00:25:24.35 with the wrong question or the wrong perspective, 00:25:24.39\00:25:28.02 they were arguing like, 00:25:28.06\00:25:29.39 "Look, is it okay to divorce for this?" 00:25:29.42\00:25:32.13 "Is it okay to divorce for that?" 00:25:32.16\00:25:33.50 He says, "No... no... no... no... no... no 00:25:33.53\00:25:35.86 you need to think back to the beginning 00:25:35.90\00:25:38.23 that God's original plan 00:25:38.27\00:25:40.07 was for a man and woman to be together 00:25:40.10\00:25:42.50 and what God has joined together that should stay together. " 00:25:42.54\00:25:45.97 So, Jesus' basic stance 00:25:46.01\00:25:49.61 is to stress the sanctity and enduring nature of marriage 00:25:49.64\00:25:53.01 and this is consistent with Malachi chapter 2, 00:25:53.05\00:25:56.45 "Marriage is not something to be entered into trivially, 00:25:56.48\00:26:01.96 flippantly or frivolously, 00:26:02.02\00:26:04.19 it is a serious business where God is at work. " 00:26:04.23\00:26:06.46 Why don't you read for us, 00:26:06.49\00:26:07.83 we'll just close out with Malachi 2 verses 13 to 16, 00:26:07.86\00:26:11.47 13 and... 00:26:11.50\00:26:13.17 13 through 16... Malachi 2 verses 13 through 16, 00:26:13.23\00:26:17.61 Okay, "And this have ye done again, 00:26:17.64\00:26:20.61 covering the altar of the Lord with tears, 00:26:20.64\00:26:24.81 with weeping, and with crying out 00:26:24.85\00:26:28.12 insomuch that He regarded not the offering anymore, 00:26:28.15\00:26:33.05 or receiveth it with good will at your hand. 00:26:33.09\00:26:37.89 Yet you say, Wherefore? 00:26:37.96\00:26:40.13 Because the Lord hath been witness 00:26:40.20\00:26:44.57 between thee and the wife of thy youth, 00:26:44.60\00:26:48.50 against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: 00:26:48.54\00:26:52.37 yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant. 00:26:52.41\00:26:59.18 And did not he make one? 00:26:59.21\00:27:03.62 Yet had he the residue of the spirit. 00:27:03.65\00:27:08.32 And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. 00:27:08.36\00:27:14.83 Therefore, take heed to your spirit, 00:27:14.86\00:27:17.83 and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth. 00:27:17.87\00:27:24.34 For the Lord, the God of Israel, 00:27:24.37\00:27:28.21 saith that He hateth putting away: 00:27:28.24\00:27:31.98 for one covereth violence with his garment, 00:27:32.01\00:27:36.18 saith the Lord of hosts: 00:27:36.22\00:27:38.12 therefore take heed to your spirit, 00:27:38.15\00:27:40.42 that ye deal not treacherously. " 00:27:40.46\00:27:42.62 All right, so, this basically is a... God is against divorce 00:27:42.66\00:27:48.90 is what this passage tells us and we've run out of time 00:27:48.93\00:27:52.47 but I'll just say that we'll talk again next time, 00:27:52.50\00:27:56.00 we're glad that you could join us 00:27:56.04\00:27:57.37 and we hope that you'll continue with us in these studies 00:27:57.41\00:28:00.58 about love, marriage, sex, and divorce. 00:28:00.61\00:28:03.11 May God bless you this day. 00:28:03.14\00:28:05.28